He shot the pumpkins pretty low near the bottom with the .357, where it is dense, but.45 was fired more in the center, where all the seeds are, and it's less dense.
This video is a fake. I have been hunting pumpkins almost all my life and I have never seen 4 of them line up in a row like that let alone 9..... These pumpkins were obviously trained or sedated. Either way, it's sad.
They are vicious little bastards😂 make sure you get all the ones on people's porch next month, dont need them charging peoples children on their way to school
When considering a firearm or ammunition, I'm more interested in the energy imparted into the wound. It seems the .357 pumpkin holes would be a lot harder to close. I think penetration tests are interesting, and .357 generally penetrates more in other tests, but what is always apparent is the crazy amount of energy it brings to the target.
94turbotoy looks like he did and the 45acp out performed the 357 against pumpkins. That said we don’t know what grain of what powder he was using. It was entertaining though.
@@kirkturner7092 The .357 did indeed look like it was lightly loaded. When I shoot .357 is recoils a lot harder had has more muzzle flip than this guy's .357. It makes me wonder if the manufacturer is marketing to the "low recoil" crowd. You see this advertised now on may loads of different caliber. That said, it still made larger holes than the .45 despite the fact the .45 is larger in diameter. I'd like to see these calibers in hollowpoints compared. I suspect that the .357 would make big "splat" holes much larger than the other two.
@@kirkturner7092 The 357 magnum bullet tumbled. You can see it on the exit. 45 ACP was straight. Just a fluke deal. Anyone that knows anything about ballistics knows the .357 mag will easily out penetrate the .45.
Love it! Next time you shoot at oversized produce, try circling the previous shots with magic marker so the new shots are easier to ascertain. Great video!
That .357 bullet was not a round nose fmj that bullet was designed to tumble that's just ONE of the reasons it was doing so much damage from the beginning.Use a sjsp .357 and all 9 pumpkins are gunna go to that great pumpkin patch in the sky.
The 357 WILL DO ABOUT 10 TO 12 depending on bullet shape. Slight flat matt would do it ; not the style he used , as their more of a target type bullet. Than their is the 44 Magnum 😄 CASE CLOSED...
My guess is that the .357 Magnum made larger entrance and exit holes and was stopped by less pumpkins than the .45 ACP because it was a flat nosed bullet compared to the round nosed bullet from the .45 ACP though it's higher velocities also likely contributed.
No sir that was not a full Magnum load in that round. + p at best. There is no way no way that that was a Magnum round. I have been shooting them long enough to know. and Common Sense should tell you that a 357 Magnum has far more penetration than a 45 ACP.
And yet it made a larger entry and exit hole just as it is designed to do(not to take anything away from the .45. They're both one shot man killers.) If I'm going into the jungles of Viet Nam I'll take the Colt. If I'm going into the Rockies I'll take the Taurus.
I also don't think a Magnum round was used for the .357 test. I concur that it was probably .38 special +P., full house .357 magnum rounds really pack a wallop. The muzzle flip and recoil from the test just don't portray the .357 magnum round's punch. But maybe i haven't shot enough pumpkins to find out.
Jay Bird. I don't think anyone is mad. It didn't look at all like a magnum load. I wish I still had a .357, but my .44 magnum will just have to do until I get another, lol. I prefer the bigger bullet too, you see. 😁
Every gun has its own purpose, and everyone likes to argue about calibers. I have two .45's and two .357's, love em both. I don't own a 9mm, but its a great gun also. I remember a few years ago reading a FBI article about gun calibers and results on the human body, and .357 was right on top by the .44 Magnum. Hell, I have a Smith and Wesson M&P .22, which is a blast to shoot, I would even carry that gun...anything is better than nothing! The best carry gun would be a shotgun with OO Buck, but we can't do that, so I guess any pistol will do!
Over-penetration is not something desired. If a human is on average 10" deep in soft tissue (center of mass) you want a cartridge that dumps all energy in 8" and does not penetrate much deeper; You know , like neighbors walls, bystanders or innocent randoms. Consider each pumpkin a human abdomen in a crowded defense situation, Does anyone want that much penetration?
@@ckoncur The FBI. The reason is that humans are 10" deep in soft tissue if they are facing you and you hit center mass. But if they are broadside to you, and your bullet needs to penetrate a humerus before entering a chest cavity, penetration matters. Or if it has to pass through a barrier first (many gunfights involve cover). Or a car door. Not all perps obligingly face you to give you a head-on shot.
Rick C I think its a legitimate concern. Realistically you would want a round that dumps all its energy on impact. That and the bullet to expand creating a large wound channel. This is if your intent is to stop an attack. Lets not bullshit here. If you shoot, it better be to stop the attacker. I dont personally have a love affair with a perticular round. I see what works.
Frangibles are great for two reasons; if you hit your target, they dump 100% of their energy into it, and if you miss your target, the round will release its energy into the wall, rather than penetrate and become a threat to whomever might be on the other side.
Good tests. Even if the barrel lengths weren't the same these are the typical handgun configurations one usually carries. I have 2 .357's both having 3" barrels and a .45 5" 1911 and this video It surely destroyed some of my biases. Thanks.
The different barrel lengths also equate to varying depth of impact regarding the amount of velocity, force and penetration. As soon as a round leaves the barrel velocity starts falling. A .45 with a 5 inch barrel has more velocity and force than a .45 with a 4 inch barrel.
I've used the .45 ACP in close quarters against Moslem pirates in the Strait of Malacca. Learn to load your ammo correctly and clear your "stove pipes." Yes, but the .357 magnum has a very low probability of jamming. What happens when your revolver is empty? I can quickly reload with speed loaders. I've heard that argument before. I'm not convinced.
@@EdwinSarkissian boa tarde esse revolver calibre 45 e top....e quase impossivel uma pessoa se salvar de um tiro de magnum 44 ou 45 ....357 são revolveres de elites ...RIO DE JANEIRO RJ BRAZIL
It seems to be shocking to all the know-it-alls...but overall, the .45 seems to be the meaner, fiercer caliber when up close and personal. Move it back 50 yards...maybe a different story. But if you're looking for home defense work...I'll go with the .45.
@@andyappleton3353 It's not, at all. Not saying the .45 ACP is a shitty caliber, but it fires big, heavy bullets that are slow and pack way less energy than .357 Mag. As you can see on the data below, the differences are quite large. I'm not sure why the .357 stopped so quickly in this video, but like others pointed out, the bullets were flat at the end, while the 9MM and .45ACP were rounded. .45 ACP (average data) - Velocity: 937 ft/s Energy: 403 ft/lbf .357 Magnum (average data) - Velocity: 1294 ft/s Energy: 528 ft/lbf But yeah, the .45ACP is probably a good defense round, since it is known to NOT overpenetrate, due to the heavier, slower bullet. Not sure why anybody needs to defend their home with firearms in the civilized world, but that's another matter..
@@PragmaticTornado I love the .357 but I'll always stick first to my .45ACP for wet work at home. I like your educated and thoughtful comment though. As to why anyone needs firearms to defend themselves, why don't you go ask the thousands of people (mostly women and elderly) who are murdered every year in the US whilst simply going about their daily lives. Go ask the battered wives and girlfriends who actually had the courage to get away from their abusers. Go ask the ghosts of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman if they thought carrying guns might have be a good idea.
@@andyappleton3353 Yeah if you're looking for a good home defense round, I'm not going to argue about the merits of either caliber, as the .45ACP seems like the more reasonable choice. Yeah I know people who talk about home defense usually live in the US. It's a very sad state of affairs. I was recently there myself, for 2 weeks, and experienced your wonderful, and perhaps a bit over the top, gun culture you have there. I live in Norway myself. There's absolutely no reason to sleep with a gun under the pillow here (nor is it legal). We have incredibly strict gun control here. There is a LOT of work and waiting involved if you want your own handgun here. I have all the 4 handgun licenses I am gonna get now (4 is the max, under most circumstances). Took me 1 1/2 years to get there.
@@PragmaticTornado In case you haven't noticed, the world is getting less civilized with the importation of the third world into first world countries.
No bro. No. Different types of bullet designs. Same bullet stacked side by side the 357 magnum wins everytime. It has more velocity and smaller bullet diameter than the 45. Hence more penetration. The 357 magnum is the best 1 hitter quitter in combat caliber handguns. I personally traded my Glock 19 in on my 7 shot, 4 inch ported barrel 357 magnum. I have been shooting guns my entire life. Yes it comes down to what you can handle, are comfortable, and can shoot best but if you can shoot all 3 equal???? The 357 magnum reigns supreme. All 3 will work but the Magnum is King
Not sure the consideraly lighter .357 bullet can be expexted to out penetrate the mass of the 45acp. Kind of like the heavy hunting arrow, slower but better momentum/penetration.
@ 3:05 watch the finger on the trigger bro want you to be around for a while... was a bit surprised that the .380 from the last video penetrated more pumpkins then the 357
Yes. Seems he used RN FMJ bullets with the. 45 and 9mm which allows deeper penetration. He used a wadcutter FMJ for the .357 mag which is known for large cavity but shallow penetration.
The ballistic coefficient is drastically changed when he changed the shape of the bullet in the, 357,also kinetic energy is effected. Not a good comparison.
Usually it's the lighter projectiles with more speed that get the most penetration, especially if it's made by a respected ammo company. The heavier stuff may have more kinetic energy displacement force or whatever. I use federal HST 130 train nickel-plated hollow points for home defense though sometimes I worry about collateral damage. The basic grain of ammo I use commonly to target practice or just use it for whatever, ballistics testing, hunting sidearm is 158 grain JSP or SJHP. I'd love to get my hands on some 180 grain this week when I head up to the gun shop and see what they all about. Got a big day of ammo-testing and ballistics, damage etc coming up soon as we get a decent winter day with little wind and around 38
How would you compare the recoil of the .357 to the .45? I've never fired a .357, but it looked like just from watching that it had more recoil than the 45 had.
Dude, "here is the 9mm FMJ" and "here we have the .45 FMJ" is not hardly helpful to the more curious folks. How about just throwing out there what brand you are using, and the bullet weight? Just sayin'.
What was interesting is that you would have thought the smaller diameter higher velocity 357 would of had greater penetration than the bigger but slower 45 acp. I guess the greater mass of the 45 is able to carry its momentum further. Kind'a cool.
finger off the trigger bro, learn proper safety practices. Finger off the trigger is like putting a seatbelt on when you get in your car. Cool video though thanks!! surprised how far the .45 went!
It's proves what I have been telling folks for years. I carry a 45 ACP because of overseas actual use stopped them every time. with one shot. 45 ACP: because shooting them twice is just silly.
I think a 45 or a 357 is overkill , a nine with proper shot placement is what i prefer, I had a G36 didn't like it too much, i prefer ruger's single actions over most semi autos, shoot slow and accurate is my style (old guy) but i love my 357, i use cci shotshells in mine for home defense
In all of these comparisons, with different calibers, The one thing that always changes, is the style and barrel length of the gun. Folks will have different calibers, but shoot from different style guns. In this video, he went from round nose FMJ ammo to a flat nose .357. That makes a big difference as well. Longer barrel lengths add to the velocity of the rounds being fired, so if you don’t have the exact same length barrels for each caliber, and the exact same nosed bullet, you are pissing in the wind, and getting wet....
People seem to be worried about whether his finger is on the trigger. Me, I'm kind of wondering if there is any backstop at all, or if he misses the pumpkin, is there someone in the background. Because it looks like a nice, flat park to me.
Yes, finger off the trigger while you are waving it around! If I was the cameraman, I would have hit the dirt! Also, is penetration that important? Looks like the .357Mag dumped a lot of energy into the first couple of pumpkins.
I have never understood why everyone is so hot on the 9mm. If my life depended on it I would prefer the 357! If you can't get the job done in 6 shots, you will be dead before you got off 14 !You ever notice the traffic stop videos on youtube where the cop is required to use his gun ? A whole magazine blasted off but nothing vital hit. Not a thought to given to aiming... Makes me wonder if the same thing is true in combat with the AR 15... Just blast away maybe you'l hit something !
This video demonstrates the relative comparison of penetration between the three cartridges. It isn't meant to show a calibrated absolute measurement of penetration in flesh.
Where can I find FMJ 357 rounds? I've never seen any but haven't really looked. I don't consider Critical Defense/Critical Service or Barnes bullets as FMJ.
357. magnum might not have the power to go through 8 pumpkins but look at the size of the holes in makes. just image how people in the world war 2 felt when they were shot with that round.
it would be interesting to see how protective the axle of a vehicle is. You should put a target behind a wheel on the opposite side to see how much it would protect you.
You had your finger in the trigger guard of the 357 the entire you were prepping the shot. A major rule of gun safety "Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot."Fun video though.
+Ed Krystosek yah i think 500 people said that in the comment box . I know what to do from now on when I want people to comment on a video . Break safety rules haha but thank u
He shot the pumpkins pretty low near the bottom with the .357, where it is dense, but.45 was fired more in the center, where all the seeds are, and it's less dense.
This video is a fake. I have been hunting pumpkins almost all my life and I have never seen 4 of them line up in a row like that let alone 9..... These pumpkins were obviously trained or sedated. Either way, it's sad.
Lewys Cousins trump is going to yank his green card
I feel like someone uses iFunny.....
+Josh Harris I really am a pumpkin hunter, just like my farther before me and his farther before him!!
😂😂😂
They are vicious little bastards😂 make sure you get all the ones on people's porch next month, dont need them charging peoples children on their way to school
8 layers of pumpkin armor. Got it.
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Lmao at your 8 layers 🤣 😆
Pumpkin patch warfare
Smart!! 👍
You would probably be safe with 7 layers of pumpkin if you were trying to bulletproof your car
The trigger discipline in this video had me bobbing and weaving my damn phone
Trigger discipline aside, this dudes knife skills terrified me
When considering a firearm or ammunition, I'm more interested in the energy imparted into the wound. It seems the .357 pumpkin holes would be a lot harder to close. I think penetration tests are interesting, and .357 generally penetrates more in other tests, but what is always apparent is the crazy amount of energy it brings to the target.
And looks like 357mag fmj can even do self defense
357 Magnum; the cartridge that saved revolvers from obsolescence.
Actually it was the anti gun crowd that forced cops to carry revolvers, there by saving the revolver from drifting off into history.
@@jimbob465🤦♂️
@@jimbob465 Wrong. It was the amazing reliability of revolvers, and the raw power of the magnum, that save the revolver from obsolescence.
@@jimbob465 Just watch how many police videos of cops having jams and malfunctions with semis when they need their firearm to work the most
Boy am I glad to know that my 45 ACP is the right weapon to have in case I'm ever attacked by swarm of pumpkins
357 is obviously a more powerful round.
Dude.... keep your finger out of the trigger guard when your walking around talking with a 357 in your hand...
It looked like it was cocked too! lol If the hammer was dropped not as big a deal but still...
Totally noticed that too. Scrolled down to the comments and this is the first one.
caught that too. totally cringe worthy.
Foxtrot1 I’m waiting for this guy to hurt someone.
honestly I dont think he had a bullet in the drum
You can’t compare a 9mm, 45ACP, to a 357 magnum. 357 mag is on a whole other level.
94turbotoy looks like he did and the 45acp out performed the 357 against pumpkins. That said we don’t know what grain of what powder he was using. It was entertaining though.
@@kirkturner7092 Depends on what you call "performance". The .357 left much bigger exit holes than the .45.
@@kirkturner7092 The .357 did indeed look like it was lightly loaded. When I shoot .357 is recoils a lot harder had has more muzzle flip than this guy's .357. It makes me wonder if the manufacturer is marketing to the "low recoil" crowd. You see this advertised now on may loads of different caliber.
That said, it still made larger holes than the .45 despite the fact the .45 is larger in diameter. I'd like to see these calibers in hollowpoints compared. I suspect that the .357 would make big "splat" holes much larger than the other two.
Hmmm .. 357 is a legal round to hunt deer with here. The only auto cartridge that fits that bill is the 10 mm.
@@kirkturner7092 The 357 magnum bullet tumbled. You can see it on the exit. 45 ACP was straight. Just a fluke deal. Anyone that knows anything about ballistics knows the .357 mag will easily out penetrate the .45.
Love it! Next time you shoot at oversized produce, try circling the previous shots with magic marker so the new shots are easier to ascertain. Great video!
I like the way he points the 357 at the whole county side, with his finger on the trigger.
In my opinion I wouldn't want to get shot by any of those no matter how many pumpkins I was wearing...
In my opinion, i dont have opinion D:
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That .357 bullet was not a round nose fmj that bullet was designed to tumble that's just ONE of the reasons it was doing so much damage from the beginning.Use a sjsp .357 and all 9 pumpkins are gunna go to that great pumpkin patch in the sky.
Thanks for another pumpkin video, it really gets you in the Halloween spirit🎃🔫
DUDE TRIGGER DISCIPLINE
About to say the same thing!!
THIS GUY KEEP HIS HAND ON THE TRIGGER...CRACY YOU DONT DO THAT. HE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT SAFETY.
Yeah and he's pointing the gun behind him over his shoulder not even able to see what is behind him.
Came here to say that...
The gun is empty...
2:32 Dude keep yer booger hook off the bang switch.
LMFAO,,,,,,,,,,
He clearly had the bullet in his hand 😒
A penetration test is one thing, but would love to see how much damage each bullet did as it went through the pumpkins.
3BV33x ve ben
pumpkins are hollow
I was just thinking what would be better at doing that , i thought wait Edwin will know and here it is Great stuff
357 stopped earlier because it did more damage (entrance and exit) than the 9 & 45.
Also if you look it had a slight, shallow hollow point to it, although the overall bullet shape was a truncated cone.
The 357 WILL DO ABOUT 10 TO 12 depending on bullet shape. Slight flat matt would do it ; not the style he used , as their more of a target type bullet. Than their is the 44 Magnum 😄 CASE CLOSED...
That's exactly what I was going to say!
The 357 mag shot was taken too low on the first pumpkin. The horizontal layer at the bottom of the pumpkin is what stopped the bullet quicker.
My guess is that the .357 Magnum made larger entrance and exit holes and was stopped by less pumpkins than the .45 ACP because it was a flat nosed bullet compared to the round nosed bullet from the .45 ACP though it's higher velocities also likely contributed.
No sir that was not a full Magnum load in that round. + p at best. There is no way no way that that was a Magnum round. I have been shooting them long enough to know. and Common Sense should tell you that a 357 Magnum has far more penetration than a 45 ACP.
No way that was a full house .357 load.
And yet it made a larger entry and exit hole just as it is designed to do(not to take anything away from the .45. They're both one shot man killers.) If I'm going into the jungles of Viet Nam I'll take the Colt. If I'm going into the Rockies I'll take the Taurus.
I also don't think a Magnum round was used for the .357 test. I concur that it was probably .38 special +P., full house .357 magnum rounds really pack a wallop. The muzzle flip and recoil from the test just don't portray the .357 magnum round's punch. But maybe i haven't shot enough pumpkins to find out.
Jay Bird. I don't think anyone is mad. It didn't look at all like a magnum load. I wish I still had a .357, but my .44 magnum will just have to do until I get another, lol. I prefer the bigger bullet too, you see. 😁
Very interesting stuff, thank you. Some of the results of your videos is a real eye opener as to the amazing power each shot contains.
+Jon Ashby thank u so much
Every gun has its own purpose, and everyone likes to argue about calibers. I have two .45's and two .357's, love em both. I don't own a 9mm, but its a great gun also. I remember a few years ago reading a FBI article about gun calibers and results on the human body, and .357 was right on top by the .44 Magnum. Hell, I have a Smith and Wesson M&P .22, which is a blast to shoot, I would even carry that gun...anything is better than nothing! The best carry gun would be a shotgun with OO Buck, but we can't do that, so I guess any pistol will do!
yes lets wave around a 357 revolver with your finger on the trigger. loaded or not, bad discipline and a worse example for youngins.
This guy is terrible for safety- one day he’ll blow a body part off. His videos should be banned, and he needs a federal warning
But, isn't it spelled younguns?
@@machomanOOOOHYEEEAH 😂 Fudd
if you look at the 357 the exit holes are a lot bigger. bigger hole equals better blood flow lol
William Winn thank you!
Over-penetration is not something desired. If a human is on average 10" deep in soft tissue (center of mass) you want a cartridge that dumps all energy in 8" and does not penetrate much deeper; You know , like neighbors walls, bystanders or innocent randoms. Consider each pumpkin a human abdomen in a crowded defense situation, Does anyone want that much penetration?
C.J. K with the right hollowpoint you can load most cartidges to limit over penetration. You wouldmt want to use fmj ammo for defense
@@ckoncur The FBI. The reason is that humans are 10" deep in soft tissue if they are facing you and you hit center mass. But if they are broadside to you, and your bullet needs to penetrate a humerus before entering a chest cavity, penetration matters. Or if it has to pass through a barrier first (many gunfights involve cover). Or a car door. Not all perps obligingly face you to give you a head-on shot.
C.J. K I mean in a SHTF situation you don’t care if you hit random bystanders
that's cool how the trajectory changed like that. good video bud.
and remember, treat every hunter as if they were loaded
What I learned is .45 over penetrates. And 357 is a better choice at close distance judging by the damage to the pumkin. 357 wins.
Are you Afroamerican?
Dont let the tests in this vid fool ya. 45 is known more for under penetrating. Look at his video where he shoots the suburban with 9mm and 45acp.
If you're worried about over-penetration, get frangible ammo; in either .357 mag or .45 acp, the results are devastating.
Rick C
I think its a legitimate concern. Realistically you would want a round that dumps all its energy on impact. That and the bullet to expand creating a large wound channel. This is if your intent is to stop an attack. Lets not bullshit here. If you shoot, it better be to stop the attacker. I dont personally have a love affair with a perticular round. I see what works.
Frangibles are great for two reasons; if you hit your target, they dump 100% of their energy into it, and if you miss your target, the round will release its energy into the wall, rather than penetrate and become a threat to whomever might be on the other side.
keep up with the good work you got some good as videos preciate that for sharing
+Gabriel Flores thank u soooooo much . Your kind
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Good video, right into action. Good quick showing.
This dude deserves more subscribers good vids keep it up
+Seth Russell thank u so much
He's out of his gourd.
Lol
Zing !
I learned that pumpkins make lousy cover.
Guess it depends how many you got.
Good tests. Even if the barrel lengths weren't the same these are the typical handgun configurations one usually carries. I have 2 .357's both having 3" barrels and a .45 5" 1911 and this video It surely destroyed some of my biases. Thanks.
+prosickguys9 GT u welcome . Glad u liked it
The different barrel lengths also equate to varying depth of impact regarding the amount of velocity, force and penetration. As soon as a round leaves the barrel velocity starts falling. A .45 with a 5 inch barrel has more velocity and force than a .45 with a 4 inch barrel.
Also the weight of the bullet
Look at those exit wounds frm those 357’s!!!
im confused why your not getting 1k a minute thats really strange cause your a good youtuber
I AM LITTLE NEW TO THIS . COMPARE TO THOSE OTHER GUYS BEEN HERE FOR YEARS
I've used the .45 ACP in close quarters against Moslem pirates in the Strait of Malacca. Learn to load your ammo correctly and clear your "stove pipes." Yes, but the .357 magnum has a very low probability of jamming. What happens when your revolver is empty? I can quickly reload with speed loaders. I've heard that argument before. I'm not convinced.
It's all fun and games till the pumpkins fight back
thanks for the info. lol Now, I know that i'll need to hide behind at least 8 pumpkins if someone is shooting 45 acp at me.lol
+Sgt. Pepper lol u got it
@@EdwinSarkissian boa tarde esse revolver calibre 45 e top....e quase impossivel uma pessoa se salvar de um tiro de magnum 44 ou 45 ....357 são revolveres de elites ...RIO DE JANEIRO RJ BRAZIL
I would have never thought a 45 would go threw more than the 357!!
It seems to be shocking to all the know-it-alls...but overall, the .45 seems to be the meaner, fiercer caliber when up close and personal. Move it back 50 yards...maybe a different story. But if you're looking for home defense work...I'll go with the .45.
@@andyappleton3353 It's not, at all. Not saying the .45 ACP is a shitty caliber, but it fires big, heavy bullets that are slow and pack way less energy than .357 Mag. As you can see on the data below, the differences are quite large. I'm not sure why the .357 stopped so quickly in this video, but like others pointed out, the bullets were flat at the end, while the 9MM and .45ACP were rounded.
.45 ACP (average data) - Velocity: 937 ft/s Energy: 403 ft/lbf
.357 Magnum (average data) - Velocity: 1294 ft/s Energy: 528 ft/lbf
But yeah, the .45ACP is probably a good defense round, since it is known to NOT overpenetrate, due to the heavier, slower bullet. Not sure why anybody needs to defend their home with firearms in the civilized world, but that's another matter..
@@PragmaticTornado I love the .357 but I'll always stick first to my .45ACP for wet work at home. I like your educated and thoughtful comment though. As to why anyone needs firearms to defend themselves, why don't you go ask the thousands of people (mostly women and elderly) who are murdered every year in the US whilst simply going about their daily lives. Go ask the battered wives and girlfriends who actually had the courage to get away from their abusers. Go ask the ghosts of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman if they thought carrying guns might have be a good idea.
@@andyappleton3353 Yeah if you're looking for a good home defense round, I'm not going to argue about the merits of either caliber, as the .45ACP seems like the more reasonable choice.
Yeah I know people who talk about home defense usually live in the US. It's a very sad state of affairs. I was recently there myself, for 2 weeks, and experienced your wonderful, and perhaps a bit over the top, gun culture you have there.
I live in Norway myself. There's absolutely no reason to sleep with a gun under the pillow here (nor is it legal).
We have incredibly strict gun control here. There is a LOT of work and waiting involved if you want your own handgun here.
I have all the 4 handgun licenses I am gonna get now (4 is the max, under most circumstances). Took me 1 1/2 years to get there.
@@PragmaticTornado In case you haven't noticed, the world is getting less civilized with the importation of the third world into first world countries.
Great video. Very interesting. Just one question, where did you get that shirt......awesome!!!
Good illustration. Thank you.
No bro. No. Different types of bullet designs. Same bullet stacked side by side the 357 magnum wins everytime. It has more velocity and smaller bullet diameter than the 45. Hence more penetration. The 357 magnum is the best 1 hitter quitter in combat caliber handguns. I personally traded my Glock 19 in on my 7 shot, 4 inch ported barrel 357 magnum. I have been shooting guns my entire life. Yes it comes down to what you can handle, are comfortable, and can shoot best but if you can shoot all 3 equal???? The 357 magnum reigns supreme. All 3 will work but the Magnum is King
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I own a Glock 19 and have been debating picking up a Taurus 627. Any regrets on your trade in?
@@davidcordyceps6308 I'd go with the gp100 honestly.
Diarrhea Dan I just got the GP100 match champion. Pretty nice revolver.
Not sure the consideraly lighter .357 bullet can be expexted to out penetrate the mass of the 45acp.
Kind of like the heavy hunting arrow, slower but better momentum/penetration.
Wow I am surprised, if only went threw 6? The infamous .357 magnum? That is nuts
But it did bigger holes
It would help a lot to know what weight bullets were used in each of the calibers.
You know what you really should have done while shooting the pumpkins to keep everything organized, labeled the pumpkins wounds 😂
@ 3:05 watch the finger on the trigger bro want you to be around for a while... was a bit surprised that the .380 from the last video penetrated more pumpkins then the 357
OG FADE everyone is a critic on gun channels
the 357 bullet was not the same rounded bullet as the 45 and 9, having a scooped out pointy nose which makes this representation invalid.
fbweaver63 I agree
Yes. Seems he used RN FMJ bullets with the. 45 and 9mm which allows deeper penetration. He used a wadcutter FMJ for the .357 mag which is known for large cavity but shallow penetration.
@@billyreyrillon3130 Swallow penetration? The mind reels with responses to that gaffe.
@@MrGsteele Hahaha. Sorry, it was my mistake. I mean shallow. Typographical error on my part. My bad.
He should have used a 357sig autoloading pistols✖️🔫
kool shooting bro. happy easter.
Yes, it's a revolver, but trigger discipline is a habit that should carry over to ALL weapons.
The ballistic coefficient is drastically changed when he changed the shape of the bullet in the, 357,also kinetic energy is effected. Not a good comparison.
Depends on the grain too- a180 grain 357 will go through more.
Usually it's the lighter projectiles with more speed that get the most penetration, especially if it's made by a respected ammo company. The heavier stuff may have more kinetic energy displacement force or whatever. I use federal HST 130 train nickel-plated hollow points for home defense though sometimes I worry about collateral damage. The basic grain of ammo I use commonly to target practice or just use it for whatever, ballistics testing, hunting sidearm is 158 grain JSP or SJHP. I'd love to get my hands on some 180 grain this week when I head up to the gun shop and see what they all about. Got a big day of ammo-testing and ballistics, damage etc coming up soon as we get a decent winter day with little wind and around 38
At least that was always my understanding. I could be wrong
How would you compare the recoil of the .357 to the .45? I've never fired a .357, but it looked like just from watching that it had more recoil than the 45 had.
I love your vids Edwin! From a French/Greek to my Armenian cousin!!!
357 Magnum tops in piercing power!!! This video promote the 45 Cal. .
you should have circled the holes that you already made
love your vids bro
+Shock25able thank you so much
Amazing how pumpkins can take a 9mm, 45 ACP, and 357 magnum like a champ!
Dude, "here is the 9mm FMJ" and "here we have the .45 FMJ" is not hardly helpful to the more curious folks. How about just throwing out there what brand you are using, and the bullet weight? Just sayin'.
seems like he was shooting target loads , there should have been way more kick in that .357
Could you do another set of pumpkins with a 357sig ?? (keeping with semiautos.) instead of the 357 revolver?????
What was interesting is that you would have thought the smaller diameter higher velocity 357 would of had greater penetration than the bigger but slower 45 acp. I guess the greater mass of the 45 is able to carry its momentum further. Kind'a cool.
finger off the trigger bro, learn proper safety practices. Finger off the trigger is like putting a seatbelt on when you get in your car. Cool video though thanks!! surprised how far the .45 went!
if you get into a bad situation...any of those calibers will be better than nothing.
I'm surprised this is the first time I've seen a 45 acp out perform an .357 magnum.
Nice Trigger safety on the .357 !
If those were Underwood 125gr .357 Magnum loads, that pumpkin would have been destroyed, lol.
It's proves what I have been telling folks for years. I carry a 45 ACP because of overseas actual use stopped them every time. with one shot. 45 ACP: because shooting them twice is just silly.
I think a 45 or a 357 is overkill , a nine with proper shot placement is what i prefer, I had a G36 didn't like it too much, i prefer ruger's single actions over most semi autos, shoot slow and accurate is my style (old guy) but i love my 357, i use cci shotshells in mine for home defense
@@fjjurroo55 meh there was a guy in our ER who walked in and had 17 rounds of 9mm in his sternum he lived just fine
@@fancyphantom8103 Ouch!!!!!!!!!!. what city I'd like to know more
In all of these comparisons, with different calibers, The one thing that always changes, is the style and barrel length of the gun. Folks will have different calibers, but shoot from different style guns. In this video, he went from round nose FMJ ammo to a flat nose .357. That makes a big difference as well. Longer barrel lengths add to the velocity of the rounds being fired, so if you don’t have the exact same length barrels for each caliber, and the exact same nosed bullet, you are pissing in the wind, and getting wet....
Hey I've vid I was wondering how do you grow your oranges that big mine are sour and small
People seem to be worried about whether his finger is on the trigger. Me, I'm kind of wondering if there is any backstop at all, or if he misses the pumpkin, is there someone in the background. Because it looks like a nice, flat park to me.
+Ron Bremner if u go back and watch older videos I walk the property . There is backstop all the way around . Thanks
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shoot. a giant gummy bear
he already has
That was surprising but nice video fellas 👌
+Quincy Bouier yanks bro
357 magnum is a must have caliber. Truly a manstopper, leaves gaping holes. . .nasty
I know what ya thinkin', did he shoot 5 pumpkins or 6 pumpkins?
To tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself...
Yes, finger off the trigger while you are waving it around! If I was the cameraman, I would have hit the dirt! Also, is penetration that important? Looks like the .357Mag dumped a lot of energy into the first couple of pumpkins.
Rusty Shackleford Just ask the ladies.
"Stop the bloody massacreee!", Jackie Cooper.
That’s why I love the .45 and the .357, you’re stopping what you point at 😀
I love .357
Having owning all 3 calibers myself, I can tell you that .357 mag would win, then 9mm, then 45. This is based on velocity of course.
Nice vid thanks. What grain bullet was the 357?
Superb video. Just to the point.
I have never understood why everyone is so hot on the 9mm. If my life depended on it I would prefer the 357! If you can't get the job done in 6 shots, you will be dead before you got off 14 !You ever notice the traffic stop videos on youtube where the cop is required to use his gun ? A whole magazine blasted off but nothing vital hit. Not a thought to given to aiming... Makes me wonder if the same thing is true in combat with the AR 15... Just blast away maybe you'l hit something !
Good to know if we get attacked by the great pumpkin,,,, hey tell the FBI the need to use pumpkins, not gelatin.. OK?
This video demonstrates the relative comparison of penetration between the three cartridges. It isn't meant to show a calibrated absolute measurement of penetration in flesh.
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Where can I find FMJ 357 rounds? I've never seen any but haven't really looked. I don't consider Critical Defense/Critical Service or Barnes bullets as FMJ.
Please tell me if the Smith &Wesson model 60 revolver Can b used by a recoil sensitive Person with weak hands without hurting him with 38 loads.Thanx
Can you get me a good deal on pumpkins?
+Gregor Samsa yah
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keep your finger outta that trigger, keep it safe bro, thanks for the vid
Valuable information for next time the pumpkin zombies attack me.
Thank you for the video, To be honest I wouldn't like to get in the way of any of those,
Im a .357 primary carry, 9mm back up.
357. magnum might not have the power to go through 8 pumpkins but look at the size of the holes in makes. just image how people in the world war 2 felt when they were shot with that round.
hey Edwin did you eat what you killed ..mmmmmmm pie cool video
+richard y. Of course
Those don't look like "eating" pumpkins to me. They're more like carving pumpkins.
Edwin Sarkissian Or a hollow point round?! To cut through all 8 of those pumpkins.
richard y. Dont say eat pumkin
it would be interesting to see how protective the axle of a vehicle is. You should put a target behind a wheel on the opposite side to see how much it would protect you.
Wow! Cool. Thanks for making this. :)
+li fe 😉🎃
You had your finger in the trigger guard of the 357 the entire you were prepping the shot. A major rule of gun safety "Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot."Fun video though.
+Ed Krystosek yah i think 500 people said that in the comment box . I know what to do from now on when I want people to comment on a video . Break safety rules haha but thank u
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What is the best ammo for both .357 and .45 in self defense and home defense?
Nice work, Edwin! You need to acquire a sleigh and see how a 5.56 vs 7.62x39 so we can be best prepared if Krampus comes for us.