"The Bible technically has all the information we need to have an orderly polygamous arrangement. But for some reason, we view polygyny as an institution separate from a regular marriage. But at the end of the day, a polygamous marriage is still a marriage, and there are plenty of scriptures on that. We first need to understand how a proper marriage works before we can properly practice polygyny. Before a man takes on an additional wife, shouldn't he already have a healthy, secure marriage with his first wife?" -Nation Building For Women, by Shanelle Shalom, page 5.
This was a great perspective on polygyny. I do think it can be a benefit to the black community but we are so damaged as a people that we are not healthy emotionally, mentally, spiritually enough to make this lifestyle productive. I know many that practice but one thing I will say is that I never see elderly polygynist couples and I always wonder why.
@@askiabenyisrael my point was that people start these relationships but they don't last a lifetime. I know so many that last maybe a few years up to 10 years but none of the couples even Muslim ones I don't see last into old age. It seems that once the subsequent wives no longer have a need for a family structure the "marriage " dies out.
The fact that the community refuses to properly implement our own unique culturally-specific solutions, this is exacerbating over generations unhealthy emotionality and dysfunctional relations. For, if we accept that polygyny has productive value towards rehabilitating and sustaining Black family structures and communities, continuing to accept that we're far too mentally and spiritually unhealthy to implement it, leaves us with a conundrum that seems to continue to haunt us. So this leaves me to ask, “the how or when will we be “healthy enough” to successfully apply an enhanced lifestyle promoting community wellness? For, we have yet to find the success we desire in any area of social reform and cultural liberation, be it civil rights, democracy, economic stability, you name it, but we continue to thrive for and believe in the necessity and value of each.
After obtaining a copy of Hillman's Polygamy Reconsidered decades ago and Mothers by Briffault, I acquired a copy of your book and this amazing video presentation brings it all full circle. A proper academic deconstruction of this topic addressing a developing interest in polygyny within our community, which has gain more momentum amongst Black women than ever before is long overdue, and your research fills a void in the scholarship. Thanks you... for this has been a very well-done and enjoyable presentation.
Nuclear family as practiced today is a very modern experiment. Even in western societies a couple generations ago you always had the grandparents and extended family part of your immediate social group and household, similar to a lot of Indian families today. The family clan. The nuclear family puts too much pressure on the inexperienced two parents to fulfill all the developmental needs of the children, and no one can do that. Children need the extended family. This modern experiment has failed.... and it's spreading. African roots are good, and so are the roots of basically every other culture everywhere in the world that created more sense of community than we have today.
Agreed sister! Just because it is allow does not mean that everyone would do it. The problem is that it is not allowed. I just be honest, I am a one woman kind of man, now I do not know if that's because the society that I am from but at this age I understand how I understand mind my own self due to selfish, and lust mind.
Much needed exposition on this subject. Maybe it is/was simply very difficult to search for but there is a lot more polygyny based content to explore and learn about than there was even 12 months ago. It is very refreshing to be able to share thoughts, learn and grow especially when there is otherwise a notable dearth of information on the subject.
Thank you. I got your book for Christmas years ago. A great read. This topic is well needed in our community and your scholarship on this subject is influential!
Thank you for this. Everything is so true. I've learned in polgyny, that for it to work, women also have to learn biblical submission to their man so that the household functions well under his order.
Not every woman has the strength to be a single parent but no strength is needed to become a mother it's not just raising the children on your own but dealing with society home schools everything you and the world unprotected only a woman can feel that pain not the father the abandonment causes stress anxiety what real man turns his back in his own no conscious it may work if it's done with the right mindset a leader alpha male conscious godly the women become mother's unite help each other where needed immediate family non dysfunctions if having the mindset to make it better but how with many out there claiming owning each others insecurities jealousy anger
I recently found the Outstanding Personal Relationships and Sayda Camara channels that specifically talk and walk about this issue Quite interesting both rooted to African descent (aren't we)
I have wondered where you were today. My sista. I want to THANK YOU for your work. It is appreciated. I purchased your book many years ago I saw this day coming we are facing and a restructuring of our models of relationships , both monogamous and polygynous for our various communities is upon us. Please stay a light to our people. Blessings, Hotep! Subbed!
Question: do you think with polygamy, for 2-4 men dating and impregnating the same 1 woman was put in place to serve as a negative? (I think pornography did this) you did mention that women outnumber men so it shouldn't be a reason as to why we have to fight over each other when there is plenty of us in order to continue to be fruitful and multiply.
Uncle of my Mother had 5 wives. And his father had more than that. Most of us African historical Husbands had a polygamy or were polygamists And others now are polygamists. So when Romain Christainity arrived. Criticized the polygamy as if you believe in thier God. As Christain believer. Polygamy was allowed in your family 😊😢
If Congress can legalize gay marriage thanks to the gay lobby, you should mount a lobby to seek legalization of polygamy. It's all a a matter of lobbying.
Due to the lack understand self, the society that i born raise in, and the misundering of life, reproducing, family, and the power of marriage is why at my age I believe if you want to build a nation that it does not make it law to have polygamy but it must allow and if you want that world to be strong and power than promoted. At some point that world probably will become more of a one on one ordeal. Nothing wrong about that.
All men regardless of race have some deesire for multiple women or another woman. Um have you seen Elon Musk aka the creator of Tesla? The man has 12 kids. Men who are broke and are pookies in the black community be having tons of women and they be having his kids. Yall get on my nerves acting like other races of men haven't had a desire for another woman or women. Smdh A man is a man regardless of race.
I don’t think that helps. Ppl have different interpretations of “god”. I don’t subscribe to those concepts so how do you explain that? Was she just referring to good morals and values, idk 🤷🏾♂️?
@@TheLoveChannel yea that’s a problem for me. Sounds like y’all replaced the god of the Bible with “the universal force…” Force does not mean those things. Respectfully…
Pls keep Ur westernised bulh*t to urself , u are not the higher moral law , you can't force ur laws or so called morality on us , if we wanna be polygyny it's non of Ur f*king business
Thank you for this, The neutral delivery , with no hate, was wonderful.
"The Bible technically has all the information we need to have an orderly polygamous arrangement. But for some reason, we view polygyny as an institution separate from a regular marriage. But at the end of the day, a polygamous marriage is still a marriage, and there are plenty of scriptures on that. We first need to understand how a proper marriage works before we can properly practice polygyny. Before a man takes on an additional wife, shouldn't he already have a healthy, secure marriage with his first wife?" -Nation Building For Women, by Shanelle Shalom, page 5.
This is what Protestantism has bred in the 21st Century. smh.
Wonderfully put
I agree. Yes. I recommend being successful in marriage first. Work out all the kinks
This was a great perspective on polygyny. I do think it can be a benefit to the black community but we are so damaged as a people that we are not healthy emotionally, mentally, spiritually enough to make this lifestyle productive. I know many that practice but one thing I will say is that I never see elderly polygynist couples and I always wonder why.
Because it’s illegal in the United States I have seen plenty in Africa
Good point!
@@askiabenyisrael my point was that people start these relationships but they don't last a lifetime. I know so many that last maybe a few years up to 10 years but none of the couples even Muslim ones I don't see last into old age. It seems that once the subsequent wives no longer have a need for a family structure the "marriage " dies out.
we're point fingers at them
so, they're hiding 😃
The fact that the community refuses to properly implement our own unique culturally-specific solutions, this is exacerbating over generations unhealthy emotionality and dysfunctional relations. For, if we accept that polygyny has productive value towards rehabilitating and sustaining Black family structures and communities, continuing to accept that we're far too mentally and spiritually unhealthy to implement it, leaves us with a conundrum that seems to continue to haunt us.
So this leaves me to ask, “the how or when will we be “healthy enough” to successfully apply an enhanced lifestyle promoting community wellness? For, we have yet to find the success we desire in any area of social reform and cultural liberation, be it civil rights, democracy, economic stability, you name it, but we continue to thrive for and believe in the necessity and value of each.
After obtaining a copy of Hillman's Polygamy Reconsidered decades ago and Mothers by Briffault, I acquired a copy of your book and this amazing video presentation brings it all full circle. A proper academic deconstruction of this topic addressing a developing interest in polygyny within our community, which has gain more momentum amongst Black women than ever before is long overdue, and your research fills a void in the scholarship. Thanks you... for this has been a very well-done and enjoyable presentation.
@@trulygrateful7217 Thank you...
Nuclear family as practiced today is a very modern experiment. Even in western societies a couple generations ago you always had the grandparents and extended family part of your immediate social group and household, similar to a lot of Indian families today. The family clan. The nuclear family puts too much pressure on the inexperienced two parents to fulfill all the developmental needs of the children, and no one can do that. Children need the extended family. This modern experiment has failed.... and it's spreading. African roots are good, and so are the roots of basically every other culture everywhere in the world that created more sense of community than we have today.
Agreed.❤
I believe God's perfect Will is one man and his wife.Indeed God allowed our fathers to have more than one wife .
Agreed sister! Just because it is allow does not mean that everyone would do it. The problem is that it is not allowed. I just be honest, I am a one woman kind of man, now I do not know if that's because the society that I am from but at this age I understand how I understand mind my own self due to selfish, and lust mind.
Thank you. We need this video
Thank you!
Monogamy was also used as population control to keep the people in power in power😅
Facts
Excellent Information Dr. Drixon, Thank You Super Much!!!!
Much needed exposition on this subject. Maybe it is/was simply very difficult to search for but there is a lot more polygyny based content to explore and learn about than there was even 12 months ago. It is very refreshing to be able to share thoughts, learn and grow especially when there is otherwise a notable dearth of information on the subject.
Thank you. I got your book for Christmas years ago. A great read. This topic is well needed in our community and your scholarship on this subject is influential!
Wonderfully wise. Very well said.
Amazing!!!
I love the very last slide and comment!
Much love to you my friend thank you!!!!!!
Thank you!
Thank you Flow 444 XFE
Wow very insightful
Very Intellectual Approach. I appreciate that. Thank You
Thank you and God bless you.
Thank you for this. Everything is so true. I've learned in polgyny, that for it to work, women also have to learn biblical submission to their man so that the household functions well under his order.
The same applies for monogamy. Which is why monogamous relationships and marriages in particular are not working for most today.
Amen
So Woman should be a slave to a Man For POly to work
Good video
Thank you!
Not every woman has the strength to be a single parent but no strength is needed to become a mother it's not just raising the children on your own but dealing with society home schools everything you and the world unprotected only a woman can feel that pain not the father the abandonment causes stress anxiety what real man turns his back in his own no conscious it may work if it's done with the right mindset a leader alpha male conscious godly the women become mother's unite help each other where needed immediate family non dysfunctions if having the mindset to make it better but how with many out there claiming owning each others insecurities jealousy anger
Great video Dr. Dixon
Thank you!
I recently found the Outstanding Personal Relationships and Sayda Camara channels that specifically talk and walk about this issue
Quite interesting
both rooted to African descent (aren't we)
The co-wives channel is a great resource as well, esp their earlier vids
I think any community can benefit. Not sure monogamy has been that beneficial to our nation
Monogamy is a disaster
As time goes on this conversation will be hot and heavy.
I have wondered where you were today.
My sista. I want to THANK YOU for your work. It is appreciated. I purchased your book many years ago
I saw this day coming we are facing and a restructuring of our models of relationships , both monogamous and polygynous for our various communities is upon us.
Please stay a light to our people.
Blessings, Hotep!
Subbed!
Question: do you think with polygamy, for 2-4 men dating and impregnating the same 1 woman was put in place to serve as a negative? (I think pornography did this) you did mention that women outnumber men so it shouldn't be a reason as to why we have to fight over each other when there is plenty of us in order to continue to be fruitful and multiply.
Uncle of my Mother had 5 wives. And his father had more than that. Most of us African historical Husbands had a polygamy or were polygamists
And others now are polygamists. So when Romain Christainity arrived. Criticized the polygamy as if you believe in thier God. As Christain believer. Polygamy was allowed in your family 😊😢
I would be happy with two wives as long as they both agree. Closed triad relationship.
If Congress can legalize gay marriage thanks to the gay lobby, you should mount a lobby to seek legalization of polygamy. It's all a a matter of lobbying.
the arguments made for gay is valid for polygamy: adult that consent to marry.
Truth!
Thank you!
Due to the lack understand self, the society that i born raise in, and the misundering of life, reproducing, family, and the power of marriage is why at my age I believe if you want to build a nation that it does not make it law to have polygamy but it must allow and if you want that world to be strong and power than promoted. At some point that world probably will become more of a one on one ordeal. Nothing wrong about that.
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I would rather date outside my race than go this route.
All men regardless of race have some deesire for multiple women or another woman. Um have you seen Elon Musk aka the creator of Tesla? The man has 12 kids. Men who are broke and are pookies in the black community be having tons of women and they be having his kids. Yall get on my nerves acting like other races of men haven't had a desire for another woman or women. Smdh A man is a man regardless of race.
@@IDONTFOLLOWAMERICANCULTURE True, the slave master had multiple women as well
What!
Being god centered. What does that even mean? Why didn’t she expound on that point? What god is she referring to?
I don’t think that helps. Ppl have different interpretations of “god”. I don’t subscribe to those concepts so how do you explain that? Was she just referring to good morals and values, idk 🤷🏾♂️?
The universal force that is in everything, everywhere all the time. God centered--Your higher self--your expanded self explained in the video.
@@TheLoveChannel yea that’s a problem for me. Sounds like y’all replaced the god of the Bible with “the universal force…” Force does not mean those things. Respectfully…
The God that created everything and is called by different names
@@TheLoveChannel I respectfully disagree with that statement. That statement is only philosophically and not based in any scientific methodology.
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🤦♂️
Blah, blah, blah. Just no. It's not sustainable emotionally. More BS.
Ladies, wake up.
Pls keep Ur westernised bulh*t to urself , u are not the higher moral law , you can't force ur laws or so called morality on us , if we wanna be polygyny it's non of Ur f*king business
lol