How Much Does It Cost For Stage 2 MKV GTI? | FULL COST BREAKDOWN
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Are you running the stock clutch cause I’m thinking bout getting stage 1 clutch with stage 2
Gti content !!
XCSLeo we released a GTI video last week and we actually will be dropping another GTI video this week, make sure to have the Bell on
@@RatchetWrenches Heck yeah man.. my bells has been on can't wait for the next video been helping me a lot with my GTI ..
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You know it 👍
thats y i follow
I always feel better when i hear another clunky Fsi,i always feel like mines gunna explode lmao
Hahah yo same 😂
Damn maybe I’m not alone...😂😂😂😂
mine’s stock and i feel like it’s gonna explode haha
Noah mine did explode LMAO 1700$ later
Same. I had a misfire issue that was fixed with a carbon clean and new pcv and valve cover.
Stay gttttttiiii ! love your videos man they help out a lot.
Love the mk5 content bro. I'm in process or stage 2 right now hopefully everything goes well lol. I'm actually located in NJ as well maybe we can link up and cruise
Thank you! You’ll love it! And yeah for sure. Whenever this quarantine ends
@@RatchetWrenches got a mk5 4 door myself manual for a bloody steal also nj based
@@danieldiettmann8190 how much did u get it for?
@@hmz01_ 500 bucks lol
We all from jersey what’s the fuckin gti wave
Keep the GTI and make it a sleeper, i got mine a few months ago and ur videos have helped. Livin in Jersey too, maybe ill see u around...
I’m glad they have helped you! And Ik I just have to see where I’m at financially if I can afford to keep both cars hahah I really want to buy a S3. But oh no way, where I’m jersey?
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Thumbs up for taking time for a quarantine video. Nicely done. So, beyond the expected big added push in the seat, what's the driving characteristics? Is the power addition across the rev range? Or is it just down low or just in the upper revs? Is the car still easy to drive around town, or is it more finicky coming off the line?
The fk street lines are much cheaper manufacturer direct probably a good 25%; I'm fairly certain you are running aftermarket motor mounts in this vid. Good knowledgeable information on the fsi which is a popular platform even now a days. The car is fun and easily affordable; daily maintenance is fairly simple as well. A nice vid suggestion for the mk5 would probably be a solution oem or oem+ for the failure prone headlights (xenon) without going cheapo led or hid to keep it reliable.
Clean gti and good info. For sure tuning in
Appreciate the feedback, we have a ton of Gti videos on the channel but unfortunately I just sold the Gti and buying by an s3 so we it plenty up content comin for that along with other builds
Bro 100% this. I’ve been chasing low beam problems for over a year. Can’t tell if it’s a ballast or ignitor defect… if anybody knows the potential fixes pls LMK🙌 I think it’s the relay for the low beams but I have yet to discover the exact location of that particular relay
@@nateo1880 I had the same problem it’s the ignitor.
Stay with the MK5 it's the most watched modded car on TH-cam most views, everyone I've seen move from MK5 have had sub drops
Yeah I’ll think about it. I’m not too sure what I want to do just yet😬
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aye jerseey!! nice car man. i got a mk4 with a vr6. pretty pricey to get power out of a vr6. thinking about getting a mk5 next
Ooff I love the vr6 tho! But yeah thats what ive heard it’s costly. You’ll love the mkv man! Make sure you get the FSI engine it’s so much better in my opinion than the TSI. Just gotta make sure the timing belt was done and the cam follower
Ratchet Wrenches can’t wait to live that boosted life. But I’m for sure going to miss the sound of my mk4. Thanks for the feedback bro
Nice video man, love the breakdown! So I have a 2007 A3 2.0t FSI, I'm new to VW/Audi. I was wondering if u know if these cars are interchangeable as far as the internals? Is it the same motor?
Yeah it’s the same exact motor. Interchangeable for sure!
Hey Joshua I got the exact same car any mods yet? Not many videos on the Audi platform
go for the KO4 ! I am planning on getting one with in the next two months as well and tuning it
Ahh we sold this car and bought an s3 and put a bigger turbo in it lol. But we did by a manual mkv GTI as a project so maybe we’ll go K04. Not sure yet! But hell yeah beat of luck I’ve heard great things with k04’s
@@RatchetWrenches I am considering getting an A3 with that same 2.0tfsi, some of them come quattro. One of my other options is a E91 325d..it's a tuff choice.
@@Talkaboutit1 honestly go with the a3, stay in the VW/Audi group. You won’t be disappointed man. The easily accessibility of tuning on these platforms are just so incomparable. Plus the Quattro is spectacular. But yes it’ll be a tough choice for sure
Your intakes and exhausts, in general, will add a bit, even unflashed(tuned), but it's when you remap the ECU that you start to take real advantages of it...
How's the clutch holding up going straight to stage 2?... I'm going the unitronic route, and have heard mixed things about clutches life on stage 2, especially if you like to dig 🤣.. Debating just sticking at a 1+ until I can afford the upgraded clutch.. 🤔
And damn these prices sounded great, till I realised your probably talking USD and not maple bucks 🤣🤣
It all depends. Just cus his lasted a while doesnt mean yours will. Hit or miss really.
Keep that GTI man. I love your videos. Just recently purchased one of them and I being watching all of your TH-cam videos related to it. 👍
Ahh man I truly appreciate that! But I sold it and bought an s3 already 😬 but goodluck with yours!
@@RatchetWrenches thanks a lot anyway, your videos are very helpful, so I’ll be bothering you if I have any questions. 😁
@@jfrometa502 our pleasure and that’s fine with us haha
yo RW, I wanted to ask, could you possibly show how you installed your boost gauge? been searching around TH-cam and there hasn't been any good tutorials, also prefer your style of instruction. If you can brotha, appreciate it!
This is sick I’m buying my first car which is a mk5 gti I’m super excited wish me luck
Thank you and good luck! You’ll love it, such a fun car
Just got my mk5 Looking to put a few mods on it😊
Awesome! I hope you enjoy it. It’s a fun car for sure. Lmk if you have any questions
Sweet MK5 bud, go for the KO4 man you'll love it. Honestly that's what I did on my MK5 I have an 09 GLI. I ran stage 1 for a couple months then went to stage 2 what a difference. But KO4 is a whole other ballpark man. Plus it's a safer route to keep the engine reliability.
Thanks man! I would’ve definitely went that route if I kept the car but I sold it and got an Audi s3 which I’m building! Check some of them videos out if you’re interested!
May I ask what k04 turbo you went with in in the market for one bc my k03 is cracked
@@lukeskabo4192 cts turbo makes a good ko4 kit you can pick up for a fair price 👍
Safer route?
that respiratory clip hahah, cool content as always boys
Thought we would bring some comedy 😬
That opening 2 fresh.
Thank you! we’re bettering ourselves with our cinematics for sure!
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Downpipe and only intake. Wow that's good. Im jumping directly to stage 2 then. Skipping 1
Hell yeah! I never even went to stage 1 either lol
Gti content for sure i own the same car as you
Awesome! Yeah we’ll keep producing more
Hey man, any problems or issues with the intake? About to order a cts turbo one for my 08 and most people seem to love them but just wanna make sure you’d also give it the green light
Hey, but honestly I’ve had no issues with it. I love CTS Turbo parts. So I highly recommend it!
confused about the stage 3= awd….?
Stage 3 would be a bigger turbo, intercooler, fuel pump and other supporting mods. No awd
I bought a bagged mk5 stage 2 for 8k not for nothing I regret nothing iv spanked subuies and v8s
I got lucky. My friend brought a APR downpipe for His MK6R and it came with a software upgrade so I got apr stage 2+ for free thanks to him
That’s very clutch hahah it’s expensive to upgrade these flashes
Build up the GTI, stage 3 on a MK5 would be awesome.
Jack McDonald it truly would be. Not sure if it’s the right investment tho lol. Idk I got some thinking to do
Just want to know how easy would it be to swap a mkvii engine to a mkv? Could you use the same 6 speed trans?
Robert Lawson Interesting i never thought of that. I mean I can’t imagine it being too hard. Might have to fab up some motor mounts and stuff. But the dsg trans is the same so you can use the same for sure
@@RatchetWrenches I figured it may be the cheapest way to get some big gains, if everything could be swapped easily. Instead of buying and trying to install parts on motors with more miles on them, get a mk5 shell and drop $1500 on a mk7 engine. Could be a vastly cheaper and more reliable way to get decent gains.
Should I do stage 2 dsg and stage 1 eus
I’d do a stage 2 dsg and ecu to maximize the performance these cars have to offer!
Take a shot for everytime he claps
You’d be hammered Hahahah
On the fuel pump get the autotech internals ive seem them for like 350ish (i believe that's what the companys name is) see if you can find a wrecked mk6 golf r and just get the parts from it (intercooler, injectors, fuel pump, try the discharge pipes aswell, run colder plugs on it, meth kit (350ish) try to see if can get a GLI transmission I think the gears are longer on it rather then the gtis, for a newer car you can get the mk7 golf sportwagen 4motion and upgrade the tiny turbo it has to an is38 (golf r turbo). You'll have a baby golf r wagon for half the price. Lol we didn't get the estates golf r but you can make it like one.
Yeah I’ve seen the internal kit by autotech! But true I do have a lot of salvage yards by me so I could go that route. I’m just not sure what I want to do. Idk if I’m going to keep the car or not
i heard the fsi doesnt like atmospheric bov and recommended against it, therefore i went w/ the dv+. i also have the updated version of the cts intake! i plan on picking up the catchcan and intake shield from them, quality brand. easy installs
I haven’t heard that but hmm I’ll look into it! I did notice they updated the intake. Is anything really different or just a few things? And yeah the catch can is awesome, I did an install video on it but honestly it’s just plug and play it’s so easy!
@@RatchetWrenches Have heard the same thing about bov's on these cars.
Can you show me the link you found to the s3 injectors
I can hear your cam follower clicking, if that cam surface breaks your in trouble. I know from experience, if I could post pictures on here I’d show show you a 10 dollar part that’s ended up costing me an engine.😢😢😢
I replaced my cam follower every 10k miles on stage 2 and I’ve never had any significant wear so I don’t think it was the cam follower, maybe you heard the injectors? I am a VW tech and trust me I know all about cam followers on the fsi engine unfortunately, that was a huge design flaw on VWs part.
My manual mk5 GTI has full turbo back exhaust and air intake and Im looking to tune it stage 2. Do I need an upgraded clutch? I already have 230k km (142k miles) on the stock clutch
StonehousePT hmm it’s hard to tell. I would because it’ll be a good preventative install. Does your clutch feel like it’s slipping? Any signs of wear? With the forcing of more power I’d suggest getting an upgraded clutxh
Great engine, i have a stage 1 on a TT and it produces 258hp 282lbft with a intake.
Agreed it’s One of the best engines in my opinion for sure! But yeah stage one really awakens the car!
Cars looking clean
Question about your intake. I bought the same one, does yours have a hole after the Maf housing towards the turbo? Mine came with a rubber plug that I assumed went there but it’s leaking and I just wasn’t sure how you did yours. Thanks
Mine is an older style that they actually don’t make anymore. They have an updated version. If it is indeed the same as mine and not updated version there is not a hole after the MAF housing
Idk about that mk, but I know a ton of people also upgrade to the Audi R8 coil packs with the mk6. I know a lot of people have had one blow.
Yeah people do it for the mkv as well. I didn’t add it in because it’s not a necessary upgrade for a bigger turbo it’s more like a luxury that you should most definitely do
Hey bro what’s your exhaust set up look like all the way from the turbo back?
We ran a USP motorsports high flow catted downpipe with an AWE catback
New follower... 🤙🏾 do more gti content
Thank you! And we will for sure!
Should get an s4 with the 3.0 sc but the gti needs to go stage 3 for sure
Thanks for sharing I was afraid to purchase the FSI. But I think Ill pull the trigger tomorrow! An 08 with 75k miles on tue clock
No problem! And yeah honestly huge fan of the FSI, just make sure it has the timing belt done alone with the cam follower and she’ll treat you right! Good luck with your purchase
@@RatchetWrenches thank you! Yep getting it tomorrow!
Out if curiosity is anyone running the IE intake manifold? How much of a pain is it to get it right tune wise? I've heard mixed results so far
No but it's on my list hope to have one 4 to 6 weeks
I can’t believe your running stage 2 with a factory intercooler 😬
😂 yeah not an ideal combo. Ended up selling the car though for an Audi S3
Boost gauge just run an app on your phone with a dongle. oil temp other vitals. How bad is wheel spin? Mines pretty bad with a stg1 Eurodyne tune 6spd manual.
The wheel hop/spin was pretty bad if you pegged the gas to the floor yeah.. Definitely gotta have better tires to hook up
Picked up a mk5 white 2 door manual today 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
You’re gonna love it!
Ratchet Wrenches I owned the same car when it was released back in 07. It was written off and I bought an 08 blue R32. Best little cars!
That’s awesome and I couldn’t agree more. Their super fun!
Finally a possible video i might find relatable or usefull considering i own a MKV GTI...
First thing i see is an awkward cringy guy with a gas mask on while generic trash music plays....
Goddamn it....
you said it peaks at 20psi what does it hold at? i just bought an 06 gti and its got some bolts on but stock downpipe (ca laws) but the boost hits just past 20 and holds steady at 16
That’s one stupid mask
I'm going stage 3 with my mk5.. just need a new intercooler and I should be good.
That’ll be fun! You’ll like it
Personally I prefer Integrated Engineering, aka IE...
Everybody has their preferences 👍🏼
GTI for sure! i wanted to know of any trust worthy mechanics for the VW near me? Middlesex County
Salvation4you thinking about it😬 but I mean I’m in somerset county and I like to believe I’m trust worthy haha. But honestly most vw shops are good. Redline speedworks on route 22 is really good
@@RatchetWrenches I heard you mentioned that you were a tech before. Didn't know if you were still working as one. I have a MKV TSI GTI, and it threw some codes P1558 (G186) after installing a catch can. I cleaned the throttle body (pain in the butt to do), but it wan't that dirty. The car still doesn't start. What you think?
Nice car and build, you got your self a new follower😁. Question tho my secondary cat has had the material removed from it is that okay. Backboxes are also out aswell.
Thank you and we appreciate that! But I mean it’s okay you’ll just be polluting and probably won’t pass inspection depending on the state or countries regulations. I mean my car has no cat and I’m polluting. So I never pass inspection “legally”
@@RatchetWrenches cheers for that bud. Much appreciated.😁
Get yourself an RS3. Real next realm upgrade
If only I can afford it rn I totally would 😍
Is this DSG auto or man?
DSG is an automatic transmission built to simulate manual
@@RatchetWrenches yeah tracking that bruv. A bit more punctuation might have helped my cause. 🤣🤣 I was asking if the car is DSG or manual Trans.
@@chazcornhill9026 hahaha shit that’s my bad I totally misread that 😂 yeah she’s the dsg. My fault 🤦♂️
would you advice someone to buy it?this year
Depends on the mileage,condition, etc but if its clean yeah I would!
did you end up going stage 3, or did you get the audi??
Ended up going with the Audi S3. We have a ton of videos already on it definitely check it out it's pushing some solid numbers on the current tune
500 coilover might be for lowering and not handling
Yeah it was a very cheap set or coilovers, it was my highs school budget but definitely not for handling. Now with my s3 I just recently bought $2500 bilstein coilovers and you can tell the difference big time. The handling, the ride quality and just all around the more you pay the better
@@RatchetWrenches bilstein really nice, I had st coilovers wich are budget but were amazing too. Really nice intro btw.
@@zuluagaco yeah there’s so many routes you can go! But thank you we appreciate that!
how come you fitted the catch can to go stage 2?
I didn’t at first I actually just recently put the catch can on. It’s not required but I recommend it to catch all the blow by etc
Modding cars isn’t cheap... here’s proof haha
So true haha
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What if ya love your V-Dub but not necessarily a motor head, how much could you add to that tab ?
Have you swapped the oil pump?
Nah I didn’t in my ownership, the guy I sold it to prob will
Do you need stage 2 TCU when you go stage 2?
No you don’t
If your gti is an eD30 your fine else you might need upgraded rods. The ed30 engine is stronger block for stage 3
I have problem my friends who know how to setup the sunroof in Mk5 gcc pls help when I press the button for 5 sec nothing happens
What size are those wheels? They look amazing on it.
Thank you and they were 18x8.5 +45
@@RatchetWrenches They really fit like a glove on the GTI. Do you remember what model they are?
@@voytopuesto yeah man F1R F21’s
Stick with the GTI love the content and helps me with my build
fletchnev20 I’m glad we can help! But I’m im so torn on what to do
i just bought a golf mk5 1.6 fsi, how is it posible to get this noise aswell in europe, what brands catback/downpipe?
Nice nice and ehh idk because this sound is the 2.0 the 1.6 would sound different. I’m not sure what setup/brand it would be get a similar sound. So I’m not sure honestly I’m sorry!
Sounds good! I actually have the same blow off valve
Thank you, and yeah it’s a beautiful sound
How you didn’t go with unitronic stage 2 jw
I had friends that went apr and just heard great things about it so I chose them over unitronic plus the shop by me only offered the apr software so that’s really why I chose it. I feel they’re both similar in performance
@@RatchetWrenches I was jw and same here but my shop only offered unitronic but I love it
@@dudesadventure gotcha! Yeah I’ve been wanting to try it but at this point with this car I’m at the point selling otherwise I’d make the switch
@@RatchetWrenches yeah I know what you mean
How do you make it shoot flames?
You need a tune to tell your computer to shoot more fuel so the exhaust gases ignite it
What is the catch can for
Catches the condensation and all the blow by. Prevents it from getting into the intake etc. there’s a bunch of other reasons for it, highly suggest it on any turbo car!
GTI
is the bov in the description the actual bov or just an adapter dor a bov ?
It’s the exact one I use, it’s an “Atmospheric Blow off valve” so it’s technically like an spacer to the diverter valve. It just releases the pressure rather then the blow off valve which recirculates it. It’s just another type of blow off valve that’s all
Do you have spacers ??
No I don’t
Go stage 3
Build the gti my guy
I definitely want to!
I know this video came out 2 months ago but do I have to use the exact down pipe and cold air intake they want me to use for the tune or can I run different brands then buy a stage 2 tune and it still work?
You can run any downpipe and cold air you chose for the tune! I run a ctstubro cold air intake and a USP motorpsorts downpipe and I run APR stage 2 software
Stock boost isnt no where near 14 it's like 10psi max??
What kind of motor mounts do you have?
Stock 😬 I prob should upgrade them tbh
You never considered going KO4? Straight bolt on turbo and you get about 70-80 whp depending on tune of course. and since your FSI the ko4 is cheaper. Also ko4 turbo is the oem turbo tht comes on mk6 golf r and Audi s3 . APR doesn’t offer a ko4 tune ?
Well yeah that’s what I mean by going stage 3. Ko4 turbo. But to get the best performance out of it you’ll want injectors, intercooler and the HPFP
Ratchet Wrenches ahhh okay fasho man yea guess I was thinking big turbo was stage 3 cuz Thts what unitronic has it at lol my bad bro 😅
Nathan Garcia you’re good hahah! I guess I should’ve specified a little better 😬
how and where did you find an apr stage 2 for a mk5?!!! i can’t find it anywhere i live in america too
I had a tuner shop by me flash it for me. But this was a few years ago. Now that the epa got involved I don’t believe apr makes a stage 2 flash anymore. It’s out there for sure I just think for legal reasons you can’t find it as easily. Not saying to do this but hypothetically if you call around to euro tuning shops it may or may not be available 😉 even some vw dealers are APR certified but they might follow the rules and have taken the flash away.
@@RatchetWrenches I’m back I can’t stop watching this video for some reason but my gti is pretty much exactly the same other than wheels and suspension. I just bought a high pressure fuel pump because my tuner in my town said I should before I bring it in. Should I worry at all about blowing the engine? I feel like there’s a reason APR doesn’t support it
do you have axx or bwa motor code?
Neither it’s a BPY. FSI engine
@@RatchetWrenches the motor from ed30? or whats bpy, i know the gtis comes with axx or bwa, my gti its an axx from 2005
@@tonyEnglezu actually nah it’s just a BPY engine. In the American market they produced a lot of BPY engines. Mines a 2008 FSI engine with the BPY engine code.
ohhh ok, thank you :)
@@tonyEnglezu AXX was early Fsi engine. BPY had the most issues by far. BWA is a good motor.
Now, will this pass inspection once you do the down pipe with high flow cat ? The tune takes care of that right?
It did pass inspection yes. Unfortunately with the EPA crack down in the last couple years tunes are required to show the check engine light with aftermarket downpipes. So unless you can find someone willing to commit a crime and tune it to hide the check engine light for the aftermarket downpipe you’re not gonna be able to pass since you’re altering the emissions
I’ll be damned if I stand 6 feet away 😅😅😅
Can anyone explain the stages to me? Not exactly sure what it means
Stages are just ways to classify performance. For example this car stage 1 is an intake and a tune, now stage 2 is a intake, and Downpipe plus a tune. The tune can only be tuned in “stages” so if you don’t have the required mods the tune can’t be done for optimal performance
Definitely gti
Yeah we’re not sure yet
Hey man, I have a problem with my car not starting,no crank but all lights are going on,what could be the issue
Starter or starter solenoid is what I would check first
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Yooo im from philly. Hope i see u in ww this summer my guy
Ayy what’s good, unfortunately I sold it and bought an s3!
Keep the gti .. I also have one of my own I’m stage 2 with 2 step weird u said u putting down 60 to 70 🤨I’m making 85 to 90 ...
I’m thinking about it but what are you referring to, horsepower? If so Are you speaking to the front wheels or the crank
Ratchet Wrenches yea horsepower yup to the front wheels an about 300 to the crank 320 torque.
alex Duncan gotcha what tuning software are you. But like I said I. The video I don’t remember the exact specs ik it’s somewhere up there 😬
I got a ecu swap I ain’t get a flash u differently putting down more thou an the ecu was tune by boost dynamic.... u got Instagram?
Didn't you do the DSG tune?
No I never tuned the DSG software
Fam can u answer me I have mk5 gti standard what I need fr stage 1 ?
Gotcha and for stage 1 you don’t need anything. Bud I highly recommend getting a intake for sure it’ll benefit you and the longevity of your turbo
@@RatchetWrenches respec fam never get a fkn replay lol 😂 I’ll get a intake den a tune n puttin H&R sports lowering springs 2 start with what’s the best intake for a good price ?
No worries man we’re hear to help. Nice Ik a lot of ppl that run those springs. But honestly I’d go with a CTS Turbo intake. It’s pretty reasonably priced and they’re great quality
@@RatchetWrenches can u send me a link does it cum in one the intake n H&R springs someone got some for 90 ponds Uk the sports versions new they fr 240 happy new year thanks 🙏 fr reapplying subbed
For the intake this is a similar brand one just as good! I know a lot of ppl run this one
amzn.to/3o53jpj . Happy new year to you as well. I’ll get the link for the springs. We appreciate the sub!
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Hahahah well see i mostly be buying a S3 or Golf R
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Built the gti bro, ur vids are awesome and im gonna get myself one too in a month or so and gonna go stage 2 aswell probably💪🏻
Thank you! And definitely go stage 2. It wakes up the car completely