DIY CNC Plasma or Small Business Mistake? | CNC Plasma Business Pt. 7
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Air Dryer:
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1: DIN Rail kit -
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2: computer monitor plug -
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3: On/off switch -
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4: 4 pin panel mount connector -
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4.5: 2 pin panel mount connector
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5: NEMA Electrical Enclosure -
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6: Arduino Uno DIN Rail Mount -
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7: 5V Relay -
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8: Wire Ferrules Kit -
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9: Ferrules Crimping Tool -
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My stepper motors were purchased through stepper online. so I may have different belt/pulley sizes.
10: GT2 pulley -
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11: 10mm bore 5.08mm pitch pulley -
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12: GT2 Belt -
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13: 10mm width x 5.08mm pitch belt -
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15: Soldering Kit
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16: Limit Switches
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17: Arduino Uno REV3
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18: Arduino Uno Panel mount Connector
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Thanks for leaving all of the mishapps in the video, that really helps people like me see the real world problem spots in advance. I'm a total new bee and will be making every mistake in the book, but may be able to avoid a few by watching real demonstrations with potential problems left in the video. Thanks for sharing.
@@photorealm yes sir. I always try to leave those in for your exact reason!
ur a inspiration man, dont stop doing what you love, im in kinda the same position as you are right now and you really inspire me. keep going strong 💪💪
@@ultimateplaysgames2961 thanks! That means a lot.
Well filmed / edited. It feels very real and I can feel your pain come across. Well done, you'll get there. Can't wait to see the machine improvements 👍
@@sharpsticksnz4112 thanks for the feedback. Was second guessing the editing style a bit
love how real it is man. soon you'll get her dialed in
@@ryanschiavo5621 thanks. I hope so!
Trial & error is the only way to learn, keep it up man you will get it.
👍🏼👍🏼
@@scubasteve3293 thanks! Appreciate it
it is natural when water and steel meet, they will produce rust, you have done making plasma cnc by your own like what I am still doing, I will learn from your video. greetings from Indonesia 😁👍
Yes sir!
Looks like your efforts are paying off, so that's great! One thing to consider again, maybe, is the location of your electronics box? Just look at 6:40 for example, it seems to me it's always gonna be in the way at the front. Not an issue if it doesn't bother you of course ;-)
@@petermolenaar3636 I've had thoughts about attaching an overhang to the front. Would protect the control box and give me a small amount of storage
I built a Torchmate II years ago to use with my Hypertherm Powermax 1000 (60 amp). The biggest thing I learned early was that the amp settings and speed settings in the Hypertherm manual would not work on my machine due to the stepper motor skipping steps. After I realized that I set out developing my own speed and amp settings. The max speed on my machine is 150 IPM - it can go faster but this is very safe doing complex shapes. If I were to retrofit my machine I would upgrade the steppers in size and have closed loop control.
@@jamesmarler7191 I think that would be nice. But not absolutely necessary. My hypertherm settings seem to be working well
Well done teething issues, don't give up your so close, now just learning power and speed, awesome job..
@@aidenjohns8248 thanks!
Couple things I learned with mine is hypertherm fine cut consumables make a huge difference on detail like that. Also your pierce delay time needs to be a little longer it’s moving before piercing. And yes Thc too! Hope that helps
@@andrewallen2436 since recording this, I've found both of those to be true. I'm making adjustments as we speak
@@ThyialIndustries also plasma green is well worth the money in my opinion. Kind of a big investment up front but it last me over 2 years for the 5 gallon jug. Never had any rust issues and leave water in it 24/7
@@andrewallen2436 awesome good to know
I’m enjoying this series, keep it up bro!
@@Cap_FM thanks. Me too. I'm learning a lot
those wobbles are backlash from the drive belts stretching. there should be an acceleration setting for direction changes somewhere. Or tighten your belts. also id say always stick to your machines' cut charts. Your table is small enough to level perfectly, so active torch height control that adjusts during the cut isnt really a must have. But z travel could at least touch-off before each cut.
Right after revising this I adjusted the machines acceleration parameters and that helped tremendously.
Hi bro, I didn't see part 3, it seems to be hidden from your playlist 😊, is part 3 about the wiring to connect the plasma torch to the CNC ? system?
@@vurnitube part 3 is not hidden. And it does have some wiring in it.
@@ThyialIndustries ups 😊, In what part can I see how you wire the plasma with a CNC machine, do you modify the trigger on the plasma torch and then connect it to the relay ?
@@vurnitube no, I have a hypertherm 45xp. It comes with a cnc port already installed for a THC hook up and external trigger device.
@@ThyialIndustries I see 👍
great start look forward to following along!
@@Engineer_DUH thanks!
Try some radiator coolant rust inhibitor in the tank.
@@darrenturner6090 I will definitely get some plans cutting fluid. But will why away from the radiator coolant
Hey there. Remember i was saying a power / speed calibration run?
Well I couldn't find the videos I was looking for until, someone else I follow made this video
XTool S1 40W - Best Diode Laser 2024? Let's find out - the hardwareguy posted Aug 29
Jump ahead to 4:45 in the video, where he creates a pattern grid, of specific speeds, powers, and if you do something like that
on a variety of materials, you can refer to them as reference sheets, when you have to cut on that material again in the future
@@nemesis851_ ohhh yeah ive seen that before! Ive used when working with wood lasers. Maybe I can use it with the plasma cutter too?
I have had a Lanmuir Systems Crossfire Pro for a few years now. Looks like your machine is "modeled" on that. Gotta say, forgetting the ground clamp is for real. Rather not say how many times I did that. I seem to get more predictable results when I put the ground clamp directly on a clean, rust and mill scale free spot on the work piece. I consider a powered Z axis and auto torch height control is a must. Looks like you ponied up and went that way.
One thing I'd like to say to anyone learning CNC plasma cutting. → → The learning curve can be steep, but it gets easier. Walk away for a bit if you have to, think for a while, breathe, decompress, but stick with it. You can do it!
@@p.t.anderson1593 all great advice! That dang ground clamp lol
Just stumbled onto your channel and have watched all of the build videos. I commend you for doing this. I've looked at both of the CNC setups you mention and thought about purchasing. But I did not like the one arm setup. I really like your idea. I can build the table and metal components, but the electronic portion is where I am lost. Do you think you would ever come up with a kit that offers your upgrades? I like the aluminum block pieces you upgraded as well. Great job.
@@fireh8r thanks! I appreciate the support. I'd love to offer a full kit and plans. Unfortunately I work 50-60 hours /week. So I'm not quite sure when I'll be able to get to it. Hopefully one day.
Borax solution in water table. I literally never drain water just keep adding to compensate for evaporation
@@Beyond_the_drift I've heard of this... I'll have to try it out
I saw another guy he made a mix with baking soda in the water to get the pH levels over nine so it doesn’t cause rusting maybe you can give that a try
@@robertgonzalez8419 I saw that too. While that might work, I'm just about to order a 5 gallon bucket of sterling cool. Out of all the research I've done, they seem like the best option
west weld did a nice drain and water storage for his machine
Yeah, was pretty nice 👍
Don't worry, you will get it. We all get over-confident.
Lesson #1 NO RUSHING. A DIY machine needs lots of dialing in and test cuts. Once everything is perfect and tested to the max, THEN you take orders. Customers need dependability and you don't want to be late on delivery or waste material. Ideally you want to do a test beforehand every time and even get a marker and have the machine draw out the pattern on the work piece before turning on the torch. Material is expensive, and a single mistake can eat all your profit and then some.
Your bed level is CRUCIAL. If you have ANY warping, it needs to be taken out with Z height compensation, which you should have anyway because of the quality advantages you get from being able to use feedback compensation. A small stepper costs $5 tops and building a small inch pivot mechanism is pretty easy. When compensating, make small adjustments, and small test cuts. You don't want to ping pong between extremes.
Don't forget, NO RUSHING.
@@excitedbox5705 I'm trying my best. Taking all advice into consideration and making changes where I see fit. Thanks
Do you drain your air compressor tank often?
I mean from the bung at the bottom of the air tank.
I'd purge the condensate from there more often, and see if you're getting more life out of the water-trap/dryer.
@@TH3_T3RM1N4T0R I drain the compressor before every use... Lol
@@ThyialIndustries I suppose it's quite humid over there. Anyway, awesome job, it's a pretty cool machine all things considered.
@@TH3_T3RM1N4T0R 😅 thanks! I imagine I'm doing something incorrectly. Just have to figure out what it is
@@ThyialIndustries I'm sure you will get it sorted out, best of luck with your future endeavours mate.
1. Fix your level issue, 2. Use a piece of broom handle to hold the metal down when it is warping . We used down to 20ga, See 3D Metal Pop Art Derrick
@@mikesgarage394 maybe? I've since started putting water in, and it's made a world of difference
Please make some videos on sheet cam, I will definitely watch them
@@Gimp_82 I'll look into it! I much prefer sheet cam over fusion 360
Those wavy lines are 100% caused by too-high accelerations. Notice on the larger letters that the waviness starts after every corner, and then damps out as the torch travels along the straights. The torch needs to slow down before taking a sharp corner - there's too much mass there to change directions instantaneously at speed.
I did some testing and your right, after I turned down the acceleration, everything worked much better
Its a labor of love
try shoehorning a 45 watt co2 laser to a 10x6 ft cnc router
@@RGCbaseace 🤣
@ThyialIndustries it was tough. It took way longer than I thought, but now I can put a reversed b&w photo on the backside of a mirror
@@RGCbaseace that's awesome. Definitely interested in getting a laser soon
@@ThyialIndustries ortur is a good one
Or build a head to fit what you have. I got a 40-watt blue laser array that has a perfect tiny square beam shape, it engraves. It cuts , It's great it will literally fit in your pocket. My co2 won't do that
My cnc plasma had no THC, BUT first large stainless sheet cut caused warp problems. You need THC.
That's what I was thinking
Get a DanyTHC it’s work good on arduino
@@angelotrezza9256 never even heard of it before. I'll check it out!
Regular laundry borax and food coloring will keep the table from rusting! Super cheap too
@@BaileyDigitalArmory I've heard of that but am a little skeptical
@@ThyialIndustries I did it for years on my crossfire pro, only thing that happens is you get some powder left over when parts dry but it wipes off. And if you put too much food coloring it makes it hard to fish parts out
@@BaileyDigitalArmory good to know! Maybe I'll give it a try
The machine looks great 👍🏻🍺
@@agguilarmetalwork4494 thanks!
I still think you need a test pattern for different thicknesses
I think so too. But almost 90% of what I cut will be 12 ga material
If you don't mind sharing, what are your table frame measurements? I thought you had posting these previously, but for the life of me I can't find them...Thank you
The cutting area is 3.5'x5.5'
Hello
Do you have a THC installed?
@@takudzwamatangira2250 not yet. But hoping to get one soon!
DIY HOME MADE CNC PLASMA TABLE RUST INHIBITOR WATER ADDITIVE look this up it works
@@rosswoolley2854 I have... Instead of dealing with the hassle though, I think I'm going to go with sterling cool fluid
Rack and pinion you can't go wrong.
@@rosswoolley2854 too expensive at the time
Looks like a warranty claim.
Time to reach out to the manufacturer - walks over to the mirror.
Chalk it up to growing pains, all learning, you’ll get better.
It’s only after you “know”, will you be able to improve on processes, etc.
Eventually you’ll get where you wanna be. 👍🍺
🤣🤣. Nice. Yeah I'm taking everything with a grain of salt.
Bro I think your belts .might be skipping steps. Or something related to your belts. Cuz my laser did the same thing then I adjusted the belts a bit tighter and slowed my speeds down. When doing the small letters, gotta slow down.
@@kenholcomb3172 yes, I'm 90 percent sure it was a speed/acceleration issue. I'm just trying to move too quickly
you are close - you did the hard parts now it is just dialing it in
I hope so. I'm ready to start cutting parts!
Hey built machine from scratch you're not letting yourself time to work kinks out if you plan start making $$$ right out of the gate your nuts and taking on jobs for clients is not a good plan . Going from a job at fully stocked tool wise to DIY build from a pro table proven machine. I been in sign business for 17 years with computers and vinyl cutter if want to hit ground running buy pro proven machine, iam building my machine because I love building and don't have a 10-20k budget . Don't get ahead of yourself you'll get it .
@@bobrossi1185 thanks for the advice! I just have a big vision that I want to see come true
Hopefully you don't let that wet air sit in the compressor tank for any longer than you need it! IF you leave it in the tank it will get rusted and can explode.
@@noizzzZZZz11 I try to drain it before and after every use!
using steel, without any surface treatment...and saying "im good with a little rust"
You will be out of business soon.
@@mjethier that's the thing with steel. You can always clean it