I think the magic ban refers to the fact that, in the sims 3, magical sims can use their magic anywhere out in the open. But in the sims 1 they can get in trouble for using magic outside of magic town. Somewhere along the timeline, magical sims began to be oppressed and forced to be a lot more secretive. It's really sad :(
My theory is that the Hoppcrafts from Moonlight Falls (specifically Miriam) furthered their anti-supernatural views via politics and presumably got magic outlawed. This leaves me worried about the fate of their changeling son.
The Cursed doll was actually just a mistake, it was made by a well known and beloved CC creator who accidentally selected the testing file to upload instead of the correct finished file. She later on went to upload the corrected version after giving apologies over the unintended virus, but later on due to backlash has gone mostly dormant in the community and took down the doll if I remember correctly.
I always thought the SIms name was from the Japanese fashion (her outfit looks somewhat inspired by it, the closest you can get in Sims 3 of course), rather than the book. Honestly I hope it's the case
@@satapon4129 I think its both, considering her traits "childish" and "great kisser". I have read nabokovs book and they kiss multiple times with her kidnapper hidden under "humbert humbert" alias. The story is far more messed up than "only" that tho This sim's looks allign with a book description of her.
THIS. It's completely understandable to not like the book or be uncomfortable with it, but I can't stand when people say it romanticizes or glorifies grooming because they didn't actually understand what it was trying to say. And I see that more and more these days.
My theory on Murder in Pleasentview is that Alexander went back in time, wrote the book, which in turn discouraged Bella and Mortimer from moving to Pleasantview and split the timeline into the Sims 4 timeline. Which is why everything is so messed up in the Sims 4.
@@hadrtjoit’s typical that the players make the sims 4 good 😭. they made a lazy move with the timeline, but a player has made an amazing theory to go with it. just like modders making the sims 4 playable
I've read it somewhere it was Bella herself after get kidnapped who wrote it. Bella in lunar lake is the real Bella. I mean with alien technology maybe you can send book to the past?
About the drowning of Skip Broke and the Tragic Clown The player is in fact canon in the Sims world. It was revealed in the Sims Medieval that the player is a god that goes by the name "the Watcher". The Watcher is also seen having temples dedicated to it in the Sims 4. The Watcher is also speculated to be the false god religious aliens in Spore hate. Calling the god "The False God That Will Come". Spore does canonically happen in the Sims universe, happening *before* humans even evolved. This is proven in The Sims 3 with the time machine, since the player can travel to the future and meet the Grox. However, we know Spore takes place *before* Sims thanks to the fact that Earth is not yet complete. This also suggests that even long after the Sims has happened the Grox still reign at the center of the galaxy. Thanks to this, we can deduce that the Watcher is likely canon in the Sims 3 still. Skip Broke drowns because a ladder mysteriously vanishes, and Sunny the Tragic Clown has hydrophobia which prevents him from swimming yet he did apparently die from drowning as well. Both deaths appear to be the cause of some greater being manipulating the world. This also explains why the Tragic Clown returns repeatedly and haunts the games. He is sticking to the world as a ghost of greater power, adamant on wandering the Earth to spite the Watcher. Still of course relies on a bit of speculation, and should not be taken as absolute truth. But again, the player *is* canonically a god so it isn't that far fetched.
i only played TSM for a hot minute years ago but yes I remember the watcher!! however I didn't know if it was canon to the main line of sims games. thanks for the comment!
This could also explain why Olive might be a serial killer. It's just The Watcher trying to make Olive "Try for Baby" with the Grim Reaper, which was possible at one point before the devs patched it out.
smacc like if your laptop was too crap to run the sims 3 in 2013. CORRECTIONS BELOW! Magic Ban - In the sims 1, sims would get in trouble if they used magic outside of magic town. however, this restriction doesn't seem to be present in the sims 2--there is a magic subhood with the good and evil witch castles and sims can do magic outside of them. (credit: @MmmmMm) Opal Suarley - There is a theory that the Tragic Clown is similar to/based on Pennywise from Stephen King's IT, and may have had something to do with Opal's death. (credit: @Cassandra Harding) Haunted Doll Virus - The doll object was actually made by well-known creator and very talented sims 2 modder Rebecah. It's still unknown how exactly the doll became so incredibly broken, considering Rebecah's skill level. I think that just adds to the spookiness of it. (credit: @VikkiSims) No Happy Ending: In the sims 2 for the PSP, you end up giving Annie Howell, Nervous Subject's girlfriend, a locket from his grave, proving to Annie that he did still love her and didn't run off with another woman. It's not a happy ending, but it is a bittersweet one. (Credit: @Annie Thelen)
I was about to comment about the Haunted Doll so thank you for the correction. It was apparently also freaky because apparently deleting the .package file wouldn't always guarantee its gone from your computer as it got attached to other CC you had.
I'm surprised the baby barbecue was so low on the iceberg. My first introduction to the sims was when I was watching some weird ass videos on TH-cam and happened to stumble across one of it.
Good video! Slight addon; the "Girl Doll Dressed" isn't something I'd call an urban legend, because it really did happen. The creator of it wasn't a newbie to coding either, it's Rebecah, a very talented and well-known creator for the sims 2, but as far as I know she's no longer active. She's created multiple new items and interactions for the sims 2, like horses you could ride or farm animals. I'm unsure whether she's created anything for the sims 3 before this, we do know that she's cloned dolls before and that her TS2 items worked without a problem, so her programming skills had to be good. It's also really unusual for a mere broken file to act like this, it really did act like a complete virus thatw as programmed like this. A fix was eventually released by a simmer and modder, but some people's games remained broken even after removing the doll, so it's not known whether it really just affected the game or if it latched onto other files on infected PCs. Things were, and still are, quite murky about the whole doll virus, so we don't know exactly what happened. What we do know is that the virus is still out there, and you can still download it through the exchange. A 3rd party program is recommended for sims 3 downloads with which you can check the package files you're downloading to see whether they're infected with the virus or not. If any of you out there are using sims 3 and downloading 3rd party content (from the exchange or in the form of cc) you should be extra careful and check all files for the virus, as it's still not proven that it's "safe" and "only" breaks your game, it could be a spy malware latching onto your other files. Be careful if you download anything that comes from other people.
On the topic of the Magic Ban, In the Sims 3, Supernaturals were vibrant and nearly everywhere. Witches, of course, were prominent, and they even had elixir consignment shops open for business. In the Sims 1, Witches weren't as prosperous. They can only find refuge in Magic Town, otherwise, they're not as prominent. Magic is scarce in the main Sims world. In the Sims 2, there isn't even a Magic Town. Only a few witches scattered around town can be found. It's not a ban on Magic, per say, it's more of a suppression.
I have a dark head cannon that a supernatural terriost caused a mass tragedy using magic in between the sims 3 and the sims 2 causing mass hatred and discrimination between supernaturals and a divide between non super naturals and eventually a populist with an anti supernaturals agenda got into power and committeda mass genocide of supernatruals by the time we get to the sims 2 games witches and vampires were some of the only super naturals to survive due to the fact that they can blend in with humans and don't really have any outward signs of their race (faires and werewolves were almost driven to extinction though) they probably also had their papers forged to state they were humans as well but they were still out there and by the time of the sims 2 a more accepting government was in place and super naturals were even given some forms of reparations (such as scholarships for university) By the time we get to the sims 1 the anti supernatural government is back in power and supernaturals have been completely forced into hiding and are banned from even showing their faces in public and punished for performing magic in public. That might be too close to home to be cannon though.
@@xxhalfemptyxx7713 Yeah that's the timeline. So in the Sims 3 supernaturals of all kinds lived amongst non super naturals in peace but something must have happened between Sims 3 and Sims 2 and Sims 2 and Sims 1 to cause discontent and mistrust towards super naturals.
right? the person controlling me makes my life really boring. go to bed anywhere from 12-3am. wake up at like 10. do something, god knows what. take a nap at about 2pm. wake up anywhere from 4-6pm. play games. repeat.
19:14 I heard a theory once that Alexander Goth going to the past and publishing a book about his mother's disappearance caused the timeline to change, and that's why TS4 is in an alternate universe, because the future was changed. Perhaps he discovered something that had to do with Bella's disappearance and everyone involved, and wrote the book to 'warn' certain people.
Hey there, avid Sims 2 for PSP fan here! For the No Happy Ending entry, in the game you actually give Annie Howell a love locket or charm or something from Nervous Subject that he had buried with him in his grave to prove that he still loved Annie even when he died. She's thrilled to find out he didn't run off with another woman and Nervous Subject is able to move on and stop haunting your house! Not an entirely happy ending, but better than her remaining angry at him forever! I loved all the PSP entries, in my opinion it's the best console port with a linear story line!
there's speculation that maxis left that memory as positive because all knowledge sims see it as a positive thing. so instead of making it different, despite the mystery, they left it in
@@spencerr4876 I know of that speculation, but I don't think it would have been confusing. Yes, we might have noticed it, but I think I would have realized it has to do with the fact that he doesn't like, idk, *the fact that she's gone forever* Something is f i s h y (≖_≖)
After researching this some more, I found out that knowledge sims actually don't have a positive "$Subject got abducted by aliens" but a positive "$Subject met aliens". That's a big difference. "$Subject got abducted by aliens" is ALWAYS negative in normal gameplay, and knowledge sims never get it. "$Subject met aliens" is always positive and basically the knowledge sim variant of that memory. So not only did they give Mortimer the wrong memory for his aspiration, they also changed that wrong memory (that's normally always negative, mind you) into a positive one. It was _probably_ a mistake, but if it was deliberate there's something foul.
I mean tbh if someone if one of my family members was abducted i would both be very sad and worried but also INCREDIBLY fasinated. Like... when you think about it, who could blame me?
I'm glad that there is a mention of the sims 2 ds. That was my first sims game ever and I still play it to this day. The atmosphere is very spooky- especially with aliens and the basement
The Knut Futa one has been recently the creepiest one for me. What if Olive tried to kill him somehow, but failed and it ended up with Knut with a huge brain damages. That's why he is in the baby state even though he is an adult... or maybe he is just a broken sim lol
I agree with the theory about the Sims 4 being a social experiment. I wouldn't be surprised if the entire purpose of the Sims 4 was to see how much fans of a series can take before giving up so they can keep finding new and innovative ways to rip people off.
let's see we have expansion packs, stuff packs, game packs (SEVERAL of them), and now kits?? they're just taunting us at this point, they know people will buy them
@@ItsJustArin I live in the UK it's cheaper to buy a stuff pack than a kit over here. I don't know who was in charge of price conversions but whoever it was should go back to school to retake maths (math if your American)
@@ItsJustArin In Sims 2 and Sims 3, there were just Stuff packs and Expansion packs, and the amount of content in them were straightforward and understandable. Stuff packs just gave you new items and clothes to style your home and the simmers, while expansion packs introduced new worlds, gameplay, animations, music and also the usual clothes and items. Sims 4? What even IS Sims 4? What defines as a game pack? What's their definition of a stuff pack? And kits? Its all so confusing, even Kits has new gameplay features and animations (The vacuum one) and i just cant get my head around it anymore :(
I would love to know more about Agne's life, un Sims 3 she's rich but her house has an unfinished nursery, and she has her husband's grave on the frontyard, on Sims 2 she apears as an old NPC lady that despites romance... There's so many ways to conect this tings, but not many people talk about it :'c
@@identityv5843 Okey so story: Agnes and Erik was a lovely couple, she didn't had a chance to change her surname to Erik's which is Darling because Erik drown on theirs honeymoon. The unfinished kids room was for Eriks and Agnes future baby. But he died and it's so sad :((
I had the Haunted doll "virus" basically what it came down to was whoever made the doll made it as an incredibly bulky file. like way way oversized for what it was. It was equivalent to download like a massive quantity of cc. Its a shame the creepy doll was pretty cute
There is a theory out there that speculates that this is why Sims 4 is on an alternate timeline. Due to the publishing of "Murder in Pleasantview," the Sims of Sunset Valley were apprehensive to found Pleasantview, and so went on to found Oasis Springs and Willow Creek instead, leading to Sims 4 being a parallel timeline of Sims 1. Adds some depth to what is otherwise just lazy storytelling on EAxis' part.
As someone super into Sims 2 the struggle to deal with corruption is REAL. There are so many things you have to be careful with if you want your hood to live! A couple more I would add if you make a follow up. One would be the Ottomas family with the originally corrupted twins and how infamously ugly the kids can be. My sixth Ottomas kid is the stuff of nightmares 😂 Another could be firstborn syndrome! It took me way too long to realise how many clones I had running around my custom hood. Anyway, I loved the video! So much important sims lore to teach these newbies ☺️
34:42 Ad Blockers are a thing, but every now and then if the website detects one instead of a normal loading screen you get a wall of text on a red background shaming you for using an ad-blocker and they add extra time to the download
The cursed doll has to be one of the most weirdest and mysterious story I've ever heard, it was made by a passionate Sims modder with impressive talent. It's a mystery as to how the doll item ended up getting corrupted and spreading a virus. I've never played The Sims 2 but still, it spooks me knowing that this could happen if you're not careful with what you're downloading.
Since the code didn't actually include anything malicous thers's a very high chance it was just an export bug which caused the files to be flooded woth junk data and corruption to that junkdata and maybe actual data of the CC too. That corruption could've happened to anyone and any random cc, since as said it was a random export bug. Very sad to see the amount of hate the creator got for smth she wasn't even in charge for :/
Having played Sims 2 when I was about 8, now 21... I was not surprised to say the least, hahaha. That game was chaotic. Sims 4 is a lot smoother for my age now.
@@gian3008 this "possibility" is only possible with mods, so it was a bigger tragedy for me personally when pregnant Titania Summerdream died from rapid loss of needs
i'm always kind of sad that nobody talks about the sims 3 xbox port. there was a karma system where you would earn karma points for fulfilling your sims wishes and they can be spent on maxing a sims needs or making a house haunted for some time or everybody having a good mood. it was super cool and i was so sad when i found out it wasn't in sims 4 or even sims3 on pc. and the whole story on the xbox version is different.
I couldn’t understand why the video got increasingly unnerving until I finally noticed the gradual slowing down of the background music… nice touch. Definitely made me not want to be alone for a while
After being obsessed with these iceberg videos for a few months, I'm so stoked to see a Sims iceberg. and as somebody who's watched like 30 icebergs let me just say. So many icebergs are poorly scrapped together and skim over each entry in 10 seconds. But not you I actually learned more than I expected! I really appreciate the personality of adding your own entries at the end. "server fire" & "cursed pets" were my favorites out of the whole video. Thanks for 39 minutes of fun & engaging content.
My only gripe is majority of the video for this has nothing to do with what is being talked about. It was really jarring for me and seemed lazy. Like when you tubers have gaming news to give but for the video just show random stream footage that isn’t even related to the game they’re discussing news for.
Also the fact that there is SO much more lore! This really just scratches the surface of some of the things shown and talked about in the video. I'm super interested in sims lore as well, and If you're into it too, I'd recommend checking out the channel, "The Sims Lore." Her videos are so well made and detailed and I could watch them for hours.
The cursed doll was made by a really prolific cc creator actually. Thats what made it creepy, she was known for her high quality safe work, she had no viruses and the code was fine upon inspection.
I was once done an investigation about this specific bad cc bug (because there another bug related to bad cc like blue lots or badly categorized clothes that created, well... very creepy babies) aka the virus-like bad CC. I want to keep it short and simple (but it's hard for me). A common trait of this type of bad CCs (there was also known virus-like wall corner TV and left counter), were their creation in the early days of TS3 modding (2009), and also being made in the same modding tool (more later). The game was fresh, so modders were learning how to mod the game, and many modding tools in the early days was far away from perfect in their early version. One of the most popular CC creating tools: TSR Workshop, (one of the earliest versions of it) had a critical sneaky bug (later quickly fixed). So there was a small random chance that when you were exporting your project to sims3pack, it would also add garbage data to it. But still, somewhat TS3 could read them and install them even if they are a little bit corrupted. And weird behaviour like odd file sizes, crashes, freezes is related to how the TS3 engine trying to work with corrupted data. Also how TS3 sims3pack format files work it's related to this bug. Mostly because this type of files are just dirty modification done to devs to sims2pack (and TS3 is just heavily modified TS2). Sticky CC behaviour for sims2pack was an intended feature while you were shared lots and sims in TS2. While exporting lots or sims, the game was also saving used CCs into it. Mostly to make sure lots or sims looked as you intended. This "feature" (more annoyance who forced me to use Sims2Pack Clean Installer) was disabled in sims3pack files, but somewhat game trying to "understand" corrupted data form bad virus-like CC would accidentally enable it while exporting stuff to sims3pack and also being later updated to The Exchange )if you choose to do it). All of this happened because of crazy chains of random and sneaky bugs. Yep, not a crazy plot created by malicious modders to make sims players miserable. Just silly bugs, fooling around. And people who bullied those modders affected by them should feel terrible about this. I hope you understand my nerdy rambling.
Never really played the sims but this was alot of fun to watch. It's also weird to have someone that sounds younger call kids but in such a professional way idk subbed
“I found this out when I downloaded the Sims 3 pets on my crappy old Toshiba laptop” *me playing Minecraft and the sims on my crappy 2012 Toshiba laptop*
I can say the sims 2 fire never happened haha, a person who worked on it debunked it but they said a small toaster fire happened. But, I think corruption happened because the team couldn’t patch the game because everything was downloaded through discs. they didn’t have origin in 2004 so that could be the reason why the sims 2 is buggy?
The sims 2 is also…kinda insane? The Alina of detail and effort and love that went into it, I’m sure they were so focused on all the features they wanted to add they didn’t realize deleting sims would lead to corruption (that’s most of what causes it) which is understandable, also reviving certain sims from base game( a feature added in University Life) would lead to it. A lot of the corruption is caused by things simple mistakes the devs made that then shipped in basegame, mistakes they never repeated (all deceased sims have complete character data, no deleting urns or graves, etc)
@@sisi2654 There definietly was no fire, since game still containts some remnant files from early development of Sims 2 (otherwise they would be gone, right? I mean, they would be either destroyed or not needed if game would have to be built from scratch). Likely truth is the main reason for the state of Sims 2 is EA (big surprise), since Sims 2 came in less than a year after Sims Makin Magic (from what I recall), and Sims 1 overall had only 4 year run which possibly leaves only like 2 - 2.5 year for development time (hence the early screenshots looking different, since it seems Sims 2 early on was built on Sims 1 base, before it changed into full 3d with new game engine). Also, you're completly right about them not realizing corruption, since early on it looks just like some minor bugs that were less important to fix than to have the game running due to rush (and Maxis most likely were using in game delete tool in hood development, since SimPE shows shredded sim data of unknown sims, similar to what happens when you manually use the in game delete family button or remove sim files). Or they noticed it, but game was too far into development to just scrap it and start a new one (because deadlines or something). But I think they were aware of the upcoming ressurection from University, since it was only like 6-7 months after base game was released. And they preemptivly made many of the problematic premade deceased Sims non ressurectable through normal gameplay. Look that many of those that are accesible without cheats/modding work almost as fine as premade sims. Oh, and I assume those deletion problems were never fixed due to either: a - people would complain for lack of delete button, and reworking it most likely would require rewritting the whole game (which apparently has like 1.1mln lines of code), b - once a feature like household bin was implemented they couldn't really remove/block it, people very likely wouldn't understand, c - some stuff happens due to usage of in game cheats/3rd party programs, they couldn't prevent people from doing that and it already was stuff of "do on your own rist" kind.
I do feel really bad for the creator the cursed doll since she seemed to have made it with good intent seeing as how she had made other CC in the past with only this one being bad.
She also made one for the sims 2 and everything was fine. But the one for sims 3 was somehow corrupted. I heard that ahe had two files for it (one has a sing to option like the imaginary friend) and she uploaded the wrong one which unfortunately was the unfinished and corrupted one.
I think Opal Suarley refers to the fact she's a child and died the same way a creepy clown man did who's buried next to her. She has no known parents in her family tree when you resurrect her. It is speculated that she was an orphan or in foster care (there's an old couple buried not far from her, with terrible traits and it could have been her foster household where she was mistreated), and possibly knew her demise either with or because of the tragic clown. She has face paint on which also could hint at a connection with the tragic clown.
tbh the concept of all of us being sims... yeah I believe that... now I'm paranoid hehe- we are in danger! and time times when people die... ITS THE PLAYER KILLING THEM
When it comes to the doll, the CC creator was anything but amateur. It was a veteran modder rebecah who did mods like rideable bikes and horses for TS2. There is a video explaining it on YT. Pretty crazy stuff, but she definitely didn't do it on purpose, as she has always been beloved in the community.
Accidental Incest happened in Sims 4 at launch, the lack of family tree meant that there were no relationship tags so everyone could flirt with everyone 🤢🤢
I don’t know if this counts but in the sims 2 for ds. After a certain plot point, honest jackson, the mayor will completely disappear from the game and never return. When you try to call him he’ll always say he’s not in despite him being non existent after a while :(
Alexander didn’t go back in time after learning about Bella, he went back in time *in order to* learn about Bella but went back too far and got stuck there. So to prevent it from happening he wrote the books
no mention of Kitty Shackle? I actually was prompted to watch this video after seeing Whang's recent video about her; I made a mental note to watch this video a while ago but forgot until I saw his upload. anyway, for those who don't know, Kitty sang one of the songs in the Sims 2 called Another World but she has no other music and has a few really weird social media accounts active years after the Sims 2 was released. interesting stuff!
I genuinely had no idea Sims 4 came out in 2014, I thought it was 2017 because I don't have a PC and had a PS4 at the time, that was a serious shock when you said that.
About Alexander Goth's book in the sims 3: maybe he chose to publish the book in the past in order to warn Bella and thus change what happens to his family. He might have gone to do so in the sims 3 timeline (when Bella is still a child), because that way the people responsible for her disappereace can't stop him 🤔
I just wanna comment on the Haunted doll virus. It wasn’t made by an armature, I forget her name but she was actually a very skilled mod creators who made many popular mods such as the rideable horse mod made before pets was added to the sims3. Most likely what happened was that either it got corrupted when she uploaded it or it got corrupted by somebody else who uploaded a build with it to the exchange.
I love the choice of music, how it gradually gets slower, more somber and alien as the topics get more cryptic. Oddly enough, it makes me think back to how many times I've gotten into the Sims and experienced the slow but inevitable decline into corruptions, performance problems and bugs that come with every long playthrough, paired with the gradual transition into a ghost-town as the story progression can't keep up with the loss of old sims. Every time I've ended a playthrough it seems so somber.
never knew what true cursed energy was until i heard the sims music slowed down fml Edit: There's a lot more gossip about the MTS/TSR beef, but none of it can be proven by a reputable source anymore. >>
20:39 I'm kinda late on commenting but there are actually two bigger Opal Suarley theorys that i know of: 1. She was a runaway (because she has no family tree) and found shelter at a circus (she is wearing star shaped facial paint and a matching dress), meeting the Tragic Clown. They were close, but someday he dissapeared (his face is printed on the back of milk cartons, which was an actual way of finding children that went missing in america until 1995 (i think?) when sims cook something) and Opal tryed to search for him (she has the superspy aspiration) and actually found him , but it was too late. The murderer saw and drowned her, just like Sunny. (In most storys the other two graves are said to be her forster parents) 2. It was an "It" easter egg. Opal was based on Georgie Denbrough. One day she was seaarching for the missing clown (maybe he was running away from the Clown catchers?) she had seen on the milk cartons, (just like Georgie followed his boat) but upon finding Sunny who, if it was actually an easter egg, was hiding in the canalisation, he panicked (?) and killed Opal. Then he either killed himself because of gulit, or also drowned in the process. Sorry, englisch is not my first language.
I find it funny that apart from the PC timeline that there is normally a Goth Family and Newbie Family in the console ports. Every Goth family looked similar to their PC counterparts where as the Newbie family looked different in every port. Bob was fat and balding in TS1 for PC but in The Sims 2 Pets for PS2 he was dark skinned and had a full head of hair
ik this has been talked abt but the reason sims 4 is in a different timeline is because alexander goth had gone back 50 years before the sims 2 and wrote Murder in Plesantview to warn the sims of sunset valley as they wouldnt want another murder right? this explains why bella was never abducted and never went off to dons house in oasis springs, hence don lives with dina and nina and mortimer is happily married to bella
The magic ban is about how in sims3 all supernaturals were allowed everywhere but by the time of sims 1 supernaturals are only allowed in magic town with rare exception and by the time of the sims 2 only witches and vampires exist and even then there are very few of them
I'm sorry if u play the psp story of sims 2 u will find out he dead and that he's remains or in the pool u can Retrieve them and bury him in her garden to get his ghost out of your house
Me, 32 years old with two kids on my homepage seeing this and clicking while thinking it's an interesting video. Video begins, "HELLO KIDS!!!"... Thank you, I guess?
Hey so the doll wasn’t made by an amateur cc creator, it was made by someone who had been making the same dolls/farm life/etc. For sims 2 and they were incredibly popular, so when sims 3 came out she made the same one and uploaded it, but she made two versions. One containing the viruses doll and one that was the normal one. She had no idea how the virus one got uploaded
It's Just Arin I watched a video on it and I think she made it like that for some reason? Apparently she had no intention yo upload the one with the scripts that were messed up, then it just spiraled and people who wanted to mess up others games hid the scripts in their own creations, kinda like the long boots and that one weird top that glitches out the children toddlers and babies.
After having the haunted doll and a bunch of adult clothes made available to babies & kids somehow end up in my game and freak me out i stopped using the exchange lol
There’s so many videos about the doll on here, I feel bad you call the modder an amateur since she was a well known modder and it was a very bizarre glitch that happened to her mod.
Glarn Curious had another secret daughter with an unknown woman around the outskirts of Strangetown, who because of her rough upbringing and lack of parental care was insecure in herself. After she heard about Bella's abduction she became obsessed with the phenomenon. When she realized she had a few similar features (the skin tone, the dark hair, the brown eyes) she started impersonating her in private, imagining what the life of Bella Goth must be like. She saw her on milk cartons everywhere, oh how everyone loved her! She bought the same dress and started wearing her hair the same way as Bella was known to wear it. First it was merely fashion imitation, but then she realized when she went to shop in 88 Road to Nowhere, many people stopped, gaping at her. It was an incredible sensation, to be the center of everybody's attention. She started to reject her own identity and fully adopted the persona of Bella Goth. When she was questioned she acted as if she didn't remember anything before her abduction by aliens, as to evade any tricky questions about her past. She didn't know if people actually believed her, but she felt more comfortable only living within that fake persona. She would keep up the story, no matter who questioned her. Some people decided to just leave her alone and let "Bella Goth" live in Strangetown like a normal person, some people believed she was part of a big government-run conspiracy, and some thought she was the actual and only Bella Goth who was hiding from someone, or something. Was she hiding from Mortimer? Or the aliens? Over time the whispers grew rarer, and most of the population of Strangetown seemed to have accepted the impersonator as just one more denizen who the desert heat had hit in the head. The military decided not to report the occurrence to Bella's family because they wanted to spare them the inevitable disappointment.
4:23 However it is possible to have Cassandra successfully marry Don if they max out their relationship status before marriage (they start out by having their status over 90). What's even funny about Don not wanting to marry Cassandra is that if play on Don's household, invite Cassandra over and try to marry her even SHE has a chance reject the marriage. Maybe she knew he was cheating on her, but why would she want to marry him again?
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I think the magic ban refers to the fact that, in the sims 3, magical sims can use their magic anywhere out in the open. But in the sims 1 they can get in trouble for using magic outside of magic town.
Somewhere along the timeline, magical sims began to be oppressed and forced to be a lot more secretive. It's really sad :(
ah I see. thanks for the correction!
....and in the Sims 4, you can't use magic in Batuu! Talk about ✨intergalactic oppression✨ (Or maybe it's just a buggy, broken game)
yes! i was going to say this. in order: sims 3 had magic, sims 1 segregated it to Magic Town, and sims 2 has the obvious separation of good v evil
@Carey Ngo yess, i personally like the chaotic nature of sims in sims 2 and in the sims 4, sims just always happy and easy to please
My theory is that the Hoppcrafts from Moonlight Falls (specifically Miriam) furthered their anti-supernatural views via politics and presumably got magic outlawed. This leaves me worried about the fate of their changeling son.
The story of the cursed doll is really interesting, and shows just how careful you have to be when modding any of your games.
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@@bingusfrmLA Unless
The Cursed doll was actually just a mistake, it was made by a well known and beloved CC creator who accidentally selected the testing file to upload instead of the correct finished file. She later on went to upload the corrected version after giving apologies over the unintended virus, but later on due to backlash has gone mostly dormant in the community and took down the doll if I remember correctly.
@@GalaGrinsArt Yep! I'm aware, that's why I left a comment specifically about it ^v^
@@DeadFawn ah, it was mostly for context for anyone viewing your comment as it wasn't covered in the video.
10:17 FACTS she was a victim, I hate when people romanticize Lolita or call her a mistress.
LITERALLY WE NEED JUSTICE FOR LOLITA
Dude was a pedo, facts.
I always thought the SIms name was from the Japanese fashion (her outfit looks somewhat inspired by it, the closest you can get in Sims 3 of course), rather than the book. Honestly I hope it's the case
@@satapon4129 I think its both, considering her traits "childish" and "great kisser". I have read nabokovs book and they kiss multiple times with her kidnapper hidden under "humbert humbert" alias. The story is far more messed up than "only" that tho
This sim's looks allign with a book description of her.
THIS. It's completely understandable to not like the book or be uncomfortable with it, but I can't stand when people say it romanticizes or glorifies grooming because they didn't actually understand what it was trying to say. And I see that more and more these days.
My theory on Murder in Pleasentview is that Alexander went back in time, wrote the book, which in turn discouraged Bella and Mortimer from moving to Pleasantview and split the timeline into the Sims 4 timeline. Which is why everything is so messed up in the Sims 4.
wait i like this theory
wait....WAIT. oh my god this is so great?
@@hadrtjoit’s typical that the players make the sims 4 good 😭. they made a lazy move with the timeline, but a player has made an amazing theory to go with it. just like modders making the sims 4 playable
I've read it somewhere it was Bella herself after get kidnapped who wrote it. Bella in lunar lake is the real Bella. I mean with alien technology maybe you can send book to the past?
“You don’t normally see cults in a sims game”
*side-eyes Jim Pickens*
this is twice i've seen this jim pickens fella mentioned 🤨 call me kevin right?
@@ItsJustArin A man of culture lol
@@ItsJustArin that’s the one lmao
Our great leader
Praise The Dear Leader!
I like how they went from smartphones in the sims 3 to flip phones in the sins 2 50-75 years later
Well, flip phones are coming back now, so it's actually accurate!
yeah, trends are cyclical 💁🏼♀️ i mean fashion is the best example for that
@@sarasthoughts Since when did flip phones make a come-back? I haven’t see a flip phone since 2011
@@blushchuu samsung made a new flip phone
@@meohmyah Oh, you meant the one that’s basically a modern smartphone that folds in half. My image of it was a little different lol
Strangerville is less inspired by Strangetown and more by the series Stranger Things, as someone obsessed with Strangetown I was very upset.
oh that's interesting! yeah i can see it now, the names are similar lmao
OH MY GOD I NEVER REALIZED THAT :00
Now that I think about it tho it makes so much sense!! The Mother and the Demogorgan look really similar
Yeah I was upset about that too and even with realm of magic because the “spell casters” aren’t that fun as they are in the sims 2 and 3
I thought that was common knowledge
Why does everyone in this comment section hate sims 4 so much?
It irritates me that the sims 4 is on a whole different timeline.
honestly same, when that was announced, my excitement evaporated.
Well, they gave a pretty reasonable explanation for it. I’d much prefer it not be on the timeline at all than have a convoluted and messy story
It's a good thing. It's non canon.
@@blushchuu yeah such a crapy game does not deserve to be part of such rich history
@@blushchuu honestly, it wouldn't bother me so much if there even WAS a story in the Sims 4.
for no reason whatsoever i want to mention the grilled-cheese-sandwich personality trait
Best & Easiest way to save up to get the life elixer👍
About the drowning of Skip Broke and the Tragic Clown
The player is in fact canon in the Sims world. It was revealed in the Sims Medieval that the player is a god that goes by the name "the Watcher".
The Watcher is also seen having temples dedicated to it in the Sims 4. The Watcher is also speculated to be the false god religious aliens in Spore hate. Calling the god "The False God That Will Come".
Spore does canonically happen in the Sims universe, happening *before* humans even evolved. This is proven in The Sims 3 with the time machine, since the player can travel to the future and meet the Grox. However, we know Spore takes place *before* Sims thanks to the fact that Earth is not yet complete. This also suggests that even long after the Sims has happened the Grox still reign at the center of the galaxy.
Thanks to this, we can deduce that the Watcher is likely canon in the Sims 3 still. Skip Broke drowns because a ladder mysteriously vanishes, and Sunny the Tragic Clown has hydrophobia which prevents him from swimming yet he did apparently die from drowning as well. Both deaths appear to be the cause of some greater being manipulating the world. This also explains why the Tragic Clown returns repeatedly and haunts the games. He is sticking to the world as a ghost of greater power, adamant on wandering the Earth to spite the Watcher.
Still of course relies on a bit of speculation, and should not be taken as absolute truth. But again, the player *is* canonically a god so it isn't that far fetched.
i only played TSM for a hot minute years ago but yes I remember the watcher!! however I didn't know if it was canon to the main line of sims games. thanks for the comment!
Yeah, the Sims had a habit of looking at you in the first game too...usually to complain.
I love this!
This could also explain why Olive might be a serial killer. It's just The Watcher trying to make Olive "Try for Baby" with the Grim Reaper, which was possible at one point before the devs patched it out.
This is amazing and I love it
smacc like if your laptop was too crap to run the sims 3 in 2013. CORRECTIONS BELOW!
Magic Ban - In the sims 1, sims would get in trouble if they used magic outside of magic town. however, this restriction doesn't seem to be present in the sims 2--there is a magic subhood with the good and evil witch castles and sims can do magic outside of them. (credit: @MmmmMm)
Opal Suarley - There is a theory that the Tragic Clown is similar to/based on Pennywise from Stephen King's IT, and may have had something to do with Opal's death. (credit: @Cassandra Harding)
Haunted Doll Virus - The doll object was actually made by well-known creator and very talented sims 2 modder Rebecah. It's still unknown how exactly the doll became so incredibly broken, considering Rebecah's skill level. I think that just adds to the spookiness of it. (credit: @VikkiSims)
No Happy Ending: In the sims 2 for the PSP, you end up giving Annie Howell, Nervous Subject's girlfriend, a locket from his grave, proving to Annie that he did still love her and didn't run off with another woman. It's not a happy ending, but it is a bittersweet one. (Credit: @Annie Thelen)
I was about to comment about the Haunted Doll so thank you for the correction. It was apparently also freaky because apparently deleting the .package file wouldn't always guarantee its gone from your computer as it got attached to other CC you had.
u forgot to pin it :P
I'm surprised the baby barbecue was so low on the iceberg. My first introduction to the sims was when I was watching some weird ass videos on TH-cam and happened to stumble across one of it.
Good video!
Slight addon; the "Girl Doll Dressed" isn't something I'd call an urban legend, because it really did happen. The creator of it wasn't a newbie to coding either, it's Rebecah, a very talented and well-known creator for the sims 2, but as far as I know she's no longer active. She's created multiple new items and interactions for the sims 2, like horses you could ride or farm animals. I'm unsure whether she's created anything for the sims 3 before this, we do know that she's cloned dolls before and that her TS2 items worked without a problem, so her programming skills had to be good. It's also really unusual for a mere broken file to act like this, it really did act like a complete virus thatw as programmed like this.
A fix was eventually released by a simmer and modder, but some people's games remained broken even after removing the doll, so it's not known whether it really just affected the game or if it latched onto other files on infected PCs. Things were, and still are, quite murky about the whole doll virus, so we don't know exactly what happened. What we do know is that the virus is still out there, and you can still download it through the exchange. A 3rd party program is recommended for sims 3 downloads with which you can check the package files you're downloading to see whether they're infected with the virus or not. If any of you out there are using sims 3 and downloading 3rd party content (from the exchange or in the form of cc) you should be extra careful and check all files for the virus, as it's still not proven that it's "safe" and "only" breaks your game, it could be a spy malware latching onto your other files. Be careful if you download anything that comes from other people.
thank you for the reply!! and yeah I do remember rebecah; i had the farm animals mod lol. But, now that you've explained it, it's EXTRA spooky
I am.
@VikkiSims do you have a link to the 3rd party program?
@@julia-nu4fj Unfortunately I do not, and I don’t think TH-cam would allow me to post it anyways. I believe the program is called CC Magic.
@@vikkisims6364 thank you!
On the topic of the Magic Ban, In the Sims 3, Supernaturals were vibrant and nearly everywhere. Witches, of course, were prominent, and they even had elixir consignment shops open for business. In the Sims 1, Witches weren't as prosperous. They can only find refuge in Magic Town, otherwise, they're not as prominent. Magic is scarce in the main Sims world. In the Sims 2, there isn't even a Magic Town. Only a few witches scattered around town can be found. It's not a ban on Magic, per say, it's more of a suppression.
I have a dark head cannon that a supernatural terriost caused a mass tragedy using magic in between the sims 3 and the sims 2 causing mass hatred and discrimination between supernaturals and a divide between non super naturals and eventually a populist with an anti supernaturals agenda got into power and committeda mass genocide of supernatruals by the time we get to the sims 2 games witches and vampires were some of the only super naturals to survive due to the fact that they can blend in with humans and don't really have any outward signs of their race (faires and werewolves were almost driven to extinction though) they probably also had their papers forged to state they were humans as well but they were still out there and by the time of the sims 2 a more accepting government was in place and super naturals were even given some forms of reparations (such as scholarships for university)
By the time we get to the sims 1 the anti supernatural government is back in power and supernaturals have been completely forced into hiding and are banned from even showing their faces in public and punished for performing magic in public. That might be too close to home to be cannon though.
@@pinkdiamond1847 wait isnt it sims 3, sims 2 and sims one
@@xxhalfemptyxx7713 Yeah that's the timeline. So in the Sims 3 supernaturals of all kinds lived amongst non super naturals in peace but something must have happened between Sims 3 and Sims 2 and Sims 2 and Sims 1 to cause discontent and mistrust towards super naturals.
you two, the sims timeline is: sims 3, sims 1 and sims 2
@@FlamesTheCyndaquil oh im so sorry!
If we're all sims can the person controlling me do a better job at it?
right? the person controlling me makes my life really boring. go to bed anywhere from 12-3am. wake up at like 10. do something, god knows what. take a nap at about 2pm. wake up anywhere from 4-6pm. play games. repeat.
Mine ignores my needs and work and just makes me sleep all the time
I think the player controlling me must be extremely annoyed with me sitting in front of the computer all day.
i think my player might be doing one of those "leave the game uncontrolled for [x amount of time]" challenges
Mine... Is really bad at canceling things I shouldn't be doing and staying up late 😂 I was granted TOO MUCH autonomy.
19:14 I heard a theory once that Alexander Goth going to the past and publishing a book about his mother's disappearance caused the timeline to change, and that's why TS4 is in an alternate universe, because the future was changed. Perhaps he discovered something that had to do with Bella's disappearance and everyone involved, and wrote the book to 'warn' certain people.
This theory is so detailed, and even though it obviously wasn’t planned by the sim teams, it works so well I like to think it was
Hey there, avid Sims 2 for PSP fan here! For the No Happy Ending entry, in the game you actually give Annie Howell a love locket or charm or something from Nervous Subject that he had buried with him in his grave to prove that he still loved Annie even when he died. She's thrilled to find out he didn't run off with another woman and Nervous Subject is able to move on and stop haunting your house! Not an entirely happy ending, but better than her remaining angry at him forever! I loved all the PSP entries, in my opinion it's the best console port with a linear story line!
thanks for the clarification, I didn't see that part in the sims wiki for whatever reason
@@ItsJustArin Lol I'm amazed there's any info on the wiki, I thought it was a pretty obscure game
Also Mortimer is a knowledge sim so he actually has a happy memory of Bella getting abducted 👁️👄👁️
there's speculation that maxis left that memory as positive because all knowledge sims see it as a positive thing. so instead of making it different, despite the mystery, they left it in
@@spencerr4876 I know of that speculation, but I don't think it would have been confusing. Yes, we might have noticed it, but I think I would have realized it has to do with the fact that he doesn't like, idk, *the fact that she's gone forever*
Something is f i s h y (≖_≖)
"Im so happy that my wife got abducted!"
After researching this some more, I found out that knowledge sims actually don't have a positive "$Subject got abducted by aliens" but a positive "$Subject met aliens". That's a big difference.
"$Subject got abducted by aliens" is ALWAYS negative in normal gameplay, and knowledge sims never get it.
"$Subject met aliens" is always positive and basically the knowledge sim variant of that memory.
So not only did they give Mortimer the wrong memory for his aspiration, they also changed that wrong memory (that's normally always negative, mind you) into a positive one.
It was _probably_ a mistake, but if it was deliberate there's something foul.
I mean tbh if someone if one of my family members was abducted i would both be very sad and worried but also INCREDIBLY fasinated. Like... when you think about it, who could blame me?
I'm glad that there is a mention of the sims 2 ds. That was my first sims game ever and I still play it to this day. The atmosphere is very spooky- especially with aliens and the basement
I used to love that game so much, it's why I got into the other sim games!
So olive is the main Inspiration for Jim Pickens?
Mass murder, had something going on with the grim reaper
All Hail the Dear Leader
I miss grim :(
Olive is Jim pickens's great grandmother
is that call me kevin’s sim guy
by something going on you mean marriage
The Knut Futa one has been recently the creepiest one for me. What if Olive tried to kill him somehow, but failed and it ended up with Knut with a huge brain damages. That's why he is in the baby state even though he is an adult... or maybe he is just a broken sim lol
i like your theory!
I mean, real people that 'are in the child state' while being an adult exist. lmfao.
i heavily doubt this is what the intent was, but i like this so much that i’ll pretend it’s true lol
I think Knut is like that because he has absolutely no info so the game just kinda assumes he's a baby.
This made my Sims itch come back, I booted up TS3 and it took the whole video to load
LMAO yep that sounds like ts3. i do not miss those 20+ minute loading times
😆
I agree with the theory about the Sims 4 being a social experiment. I wouldn't be surprised if the entire purpose of the Sims 4 was to see how much fans of a series can take before giving up so they can keep finding new and innovative ways to rip people off.
let's see we have expansion packs, stuff packs, game packs (SEVERAL of them), and now kits?? they're just taunting us at this point, they know people will buy them
@@ItsJustArin I live in the UK it's cheaper to buy a stuff pack than a kit over here. I don't know who was in charge of price conversions but whoever it was should go back to school to retake maths (math if your American)
@@ItsJustArin In Sims 2 and Sims 3, there were just Stuff packs and Expansion packs, and the amount of content in them were straightforward and understandable. Stuff packs just gave you new items and clothes to style your home and the simmers, while expansion packs introduced new worlds, gameplay, animations, music and also the usual clothes and items.
Sims 4? What even IS Sims 4? What defines as a game pack? What's their definition of a stuff pack? And kits? Its all so confusing, even Kits has new gameplay features and animations (The vacuum one) and i just cant get my head around it anymore :(
I would love to know more about Agne's life, un Sims 3 she's rich but her house has an unfinished nursery, and she has her husband's grave on the frontyard, on Sims 2 she apears as an old NPC lady that despites romance...
There's so many ways to conect this tings, but not many people talk about it :'c
crumplebottom DEF should've been on here!
Im pretty sure his man died when he was very young. I'm not sure what happened to her baby though...
@@identityv5843 Okey so story: Agnes and Erik was a lovely couple, she didn't had a chance to change her surname to Erik's which is Darling because Erik drown on theirs honeymoon. The unfinished kids room was for Eriks and Agnes future baby. But he died and it's so sad :((
my man nervous subject deserves more love, he suffered so much 😔
I had the Haunted doll "virus" basically what it came down to was whoever made the doll made it as an incredibly bulky file. like way way oversized for what it was. It was equivalent to download like a massive quantity of cc. Its a shame the creepy doll was pretty cute
19:14 maybe Alexander published the book in the past in an attempt to warn his mother and save her life
There is a theory out there that speculates that this is why Sims 4 is on an alternate timeline. Due to the publishing of "Murder in Pleasantview," the Sims of Sunset Valley were apprehensive to found Pleasantview, and so went on to found Oasis Springs and Willow Creek instead, leading to Sims 4 being a parallel timeline of Sims 1. Adds some depth to what is otherwise just lazy storytelling on EAxis' part.
As someone super into Sims 2 the struggle to deal with corruption is REAL. There are so many things you have to be careful with if you want your hood to live!
A couple more I would add if you make a follow up. One would be the Ottomas family with the originally corrupted twins and how infamously ugly the kids can be. My sixth Ottomas kid is the stuff of nightmares 😂 Another could be firstborn syndrome! It took me way too long to realise how many clones I had running around my custom hood.
Anyway, I loved the video! So much important sims lore to teach these newbies ☺️
Batbox has saved my game sooooo many times.
Still love Strangetown though🙂
34:42 Ad Blockers are a thing, but every now and then if the website detects one instead of a normal loading screen you get a wall of text on a red background shaming you for using an ad-blocker and they add extra time to the download
The cursed doll has to be one of the most weirdest and mysterious story I've ever heard, it was made by a passionate Sims modder with impressive talent. It's a mystery as to how the doll item ended up getting corrupted and spreading a virus. I've never played The Sims 2 but still, it spooks me knowing that this could happen if you're not careful with what you're downloading.
Since the code didn't actually include anything malicous thers's a very high chance it was just an export bug which caused the files to be flooded woth junk data and corruption to that junkdata and maybe actual data of the CC too. That corruption could've happened to anyone and any random cc, since as said it was a random export bug. Very sad to see the amount of hate the creator got for smth she wasn't even in charge for :/
"cannibalistic infanticide" weren't words i expected to hear when i clicked on this sims video! anyway, great video, thanks for sharing 👍
Having played Sims 2 when I was about 8, now 21... I was not surprised to say the least, hahaha. That game was chaotic. Sims 4 is a lot smoother for my age now.
@@gian3008 this "possibility" is only possible with mods, so it was a bigger tragedy for me personally when pregnant Titania Summerdream died from rapid loss of needs
i'm always kind of sad that nobody talks about the sims 3 xbox port. there was a karma system where you would earn karma points for fulfilling your sims wishes and they can be spent on maxing a sims needs or making a house haunted for some time or everybody having a good mood. it was super cool and i was so sad when i found out it wasn't in sims 4 or even sims3 on pc. and the whole story on the xbox version is different.
yeah the console ports are always so different! didn't have an xbox growing up but i really wanted ts3 on the DS haha
I'm glad I know this now🙂
I couldn’t understand why the video got increasingly unnerving until I finally noticed the gradual slowing down of the background music… nice touch. Definitely made me not want to be alone for a while
After being obsessed with these iceberg videos for a few months, I'm so stoked to see a Sims iceberg. and as somebody who's watched like 30 icebergs let me just say. So many icebergs are poorly scrapped together and skim over each entry in 10 seconds. But not you I actually learned more than I expected! I really appreciate the personality of adding your own entries at the end. "server fire" & "cursed pets" were my favorites out of the whole video.
Thanks for 39 minutes of fun & engaging content.
omg thank you!!! i'm glad you enjoyed 💕
My only gripe is majority of the video for this has nothing to do with what is being talked about. It was really jarring for me and seemed lazy. Like when you tubers have gaming news to give but for the video just show random stream footage that isn’t even related to the game they’re discussing news for.
I didn't know there was Sims lore.
congrats!!! now you know! ✨
@@ItsJustArin ( :
Play the gba games and you will be surprised af
Also the fact that there is SO much more lore! This really just scratches the surface of some of the things shown and talked about in the video. I'm super interested in sims lore as well, and If you're into it too, I'd recommend checking out the channel, "The Sims Lore." Her videos are so well made and detailed and I could watch them for hours.
@@moltenpizza4848 the psp game too
The cursed doll was made by a really prolific cc creator actually. Thats what made it creepy, she was known for her high quality safe work, she had no viruses and the code was fine upon inspection.
I was once done an investigation about this specific bad cc bug (because there another bug related to bad cc like blue lots or badly categorized clothes that created, well... very creepy babies) aka the virus-like bad CC. I want to keep it short and simple (but it's hard for me).
A common trait of this type of bad CCs (there was also known virus-like wall corner TV and left counter), were their creation in the early days of TS3 modding (2009), and also being made in the same modding tool (more later).
The game was fresh, so modders were learning how to mod the game, and many modding tools in the early days was far away from perfect in their early version. One of the most popular CC creating tools: TSR Workshop, (one of the earliest versions of it) had a critical sneaky bug (later quickly fixed). So there was a small random chance that when you were exporting your project to sims3pack, it would also add garbage data to it. But still, somewhat TS3 could read them and install them even if they are a little bit corrupted. And weird behaviour like odd file sizes, crashes, freezes is related to how the TS3 engine trying to work with corrupted data.
Also how TS3 sims3pack format files work it's related to this bug. Mostly because this type of files are just dirty modification done to devs to sims2pack (and TS3 is just heavily modified TS2). Sticky CC behaviour for sims2pack was an intended feature while you were shared lots and sims in TS2. While exporting lots or sims, the game was also saving used CCs into it. Mostly to make sure lots or sims looked as you intended. This "feature" (more annoyance who forced me to use Sims2Pack Clean Installer) was disabled in sims3pack files, but somewhat game trying to "understand" corrupted data form bad virus-like CC would accidentally enable it while exporting stuff to sims3pack and also being later updated to The Exchange )if you choose to do it).
All of this happened because of crazy chains of random and sneaky bugs. Yep, not a crazy plot created by malicious modders to make sims players miserable. Just silly bugs, fooling around. And people who bullied those modders affected by them should feel terrible about this.
I hope you understand my nerdy rambling.
I love how you worked on the soundtrack as the video progresses! Sis went full Everywhere at the End of Time on us
Never really played the sims but this was alot of fun to watch. It's also weird to have someone that sounds younger call kids but in such a professional way idk subbed
hm i guess most people do consider 21 to be young
“I found this out when I downloaded the Sims 3 pets on my crappy old Toshiba laptop”
*me playing Minecraft and the sims on my crappy 2012 Toshiba laptop*
we only got 5 fps but we still enjoyed it 😔
I love how the music becomes slower and slower as the video progresses
honestly i mostly get comments on how scary/annoying it is so this is nice
I can say the sims 2 fire never happened haha, a person who worked on it debunked it but they said a small toaster fire happened. But, I think corruption happened because the team couldn’t patch the game because everything was downloaded through discs. they didn’t have origin in 2004 so that could be the reason why the sims 2 is buggy?
The sims 2 is also…kinda insane? The Alina of detail and effort and love that went into it, I’m sure they were so focused on all the features they wanted to add they didn’t realize deleting sims would lead to corruption (that’s most of what causes it) which is understandable, also reviving certain sims from base game( a feature added in University Life) would lead to it. A lot of the corruption is caused by things simple mistakes the devs made that then shipped in basegame, mistakes they never repeated (all deceased sims have complete character data, no deleting urns or graves, etc)
@@sisi2654 There definietly was no fire, since game still containts some remnant files from early development of Sims 2 (otherwise they would be gone, right? I mean, they would be either destroyed or not needed if game would have to be built from scratch). Likely truth is the main reason for the state of Sims 2 is EA (big surprise), since Sims 2 came in less than a year after Sims Makin Magic (from what I recall), and Sims 1 overall had only 4 year run which possibly leaves only like 2 - 2.5 year for development time (hence the early screenshots looking different, since it seems Sims 2 early on was built on Sims 1 base, before it changed into full 3d with new game engine).
Also, you're completly right about them not realizing corruption, since early on it looks just like some minor bugs that were less important to fix than to have the game running due to rush (and Maxis most likely were using in game delete tool in hood development, since SimPE shows shredded sim data of unknown sims, similar to what happens when you manually use the in game delete family button or remove sim files). Or they noticed it, but game was too far into development to just scrap it and start a new one (because deadlines or something).
But I think they were aware of the upcoming ressurection from University, since it was only like 6-7 months after base game was released. And they preemptivly made many of the problematic premade deceased Sims non ressurectable through normal gameplay. Look that many of those that are accesible without cheats/modding work almost as fine as premade sims.
Oh, and I assume those deletion problems were never fixed due to either: a - people would complain for lack of delete button, and reworking it most likely would require rewritting the whole game (which apparently has like 1.1mln lines of code), b - once a feature like household bin was implemented they couldn't really remove/block it, people very likely wouldn't understand, c - some stuff happens due to usage of in game cheats/3rd party programs, they couldn't prevent people from doing that and it already was stuff of "do on your own rist" kind.
The demon pets glitch in Sims 3 genuinely creeped me out. It happened to babies too.
I do feel really bad for the creator the cursed doll since she seemed to have made it with good intent seeing as how she had made other CC in the past with only this one being bad.
She also made one for the sims 2 and everything was fine. But the one for sims 3 was somehow corrupted. I heard that ahe had two files for it (one has a sing to option like the imaginary friend) and she uploaded the wrong one which unfortunately was the unfinished and corrupted one.
Funny how the cursed pets one was the only one that scared me because it just suddenly popped in your face
I think Opal Suarley refers to the fact she's a child and died the same way a creepy clown man did who's buried next to her. She has no known parents in her family tree when you resurrect her. It is speculated that she was an orphan or in foster care (there's an old couple buried not far from her, with terrible traits and it could have been her foster household where she was mistreated), and possibly knew her demise either with or because of the tragic clown. She has face paint on which also could hint at a connection with the tragic clown.
tbh the concept of all of us being sims... yeah I believe that... now I'm paranoid hehe- we are in danger!
and time times when people die... ITS THE PLAYER KILLING THEM
When it comes to the doll, the CC creator was anything but amateur. It was a veteran modder rebecah who did mods like rideable bikes and horses for TS2. There is a video explaining it on YT. Pretty crazy stuff, but she definitely didn't do it on purpose, as she has always been beloved in the community.
Accidental Incest happened in Sims 4 at launch, the lack of family tree meant that there were no relationship tags so everyone could flirt with everyone 🤢🤢
this reminds me- when playing on my PS4, I was messing with family tags and relationships. Accidentally made my sims both brothers AND boyfriends.
Imagine someone in 2014 playing Sims 4 as Nancy Landgraab, making her go into affairs and accidentaly hooking up with Johnny Zest out of all people 😭
Sweet home Alabama
Where are the evil eyes blinking in the mines in Sunset Valley?
I don’t know if this counts but in the sims 2 for ds. After a certain plot point, honest jackson, the mayor will completely disappear from the game and never return. When you try to call him he’ll always say he’s not in despite him being non existent after a while :(
I REMEMBER THAT and I think at some point the city hall caught on fire but i never put it out. I assumed he died lmao
Hol up there’s sims for the ds?
@@WhimsicalGoldfish several actually
Alexander didn’t go back in time after learning about Bella, he went back in time *in order to* learn about Bella but went back too far and got stuck there. So to prevent it from happening he wrote the books
This is a great video! Super interesting and really well presented. I love learning lore/theories from games so I'm glad you made it
no mention of Kitty Shackle? I actually was prompted to watch this video after seeing Whang's recent video about her; I made a mental note to watch this video a while ago but forgot until I saw his upload. anyway, for those who don't know, Kitty sang one of the songs in the Sims 2 called Another World but she has no other music and has a few really weird social media accounts active years after the Sims 2 was released. interesting stuff!
legit didn't know about the kitty shack mystery until i saw whang's video... definitely should've gone on the iceberg tho!!
This deserves WAY more attention
I genuinely had no idea Sims 4 came out in 2014, I thought it was 2017 because I don't have a PC and had a PS4 at the time, that was a serious shock when you said that.
time comes for us all my friend
About Alexander Goth's book in the sims 3: maybe he chose to publish the book in the past in order to warn Bella and thus change what happens to his family. He might have gone to do so in the sims 3 timeline (when Bella is still a child), because that way the people responsible for her disappereace can't stop him 🤔
I love the plumbob/iceberg analogy
I just wanna comment on the Haunted doll virus. It wasn’t made by an armature, I forget her name but she was actually a very skilled mod creators who made many popular mods such as the rideable horse mod made before pets was added to the sims3. Most likely what happened was that either it got corrupted when she uploaded it or it got corrupted by somebody else who uploaded a build with it to the exchange.
It was an export bug which caused additional junk data to be added AND corrupted :/
I love the choice of music, how it gradually gets slower, more somber and alien as the topics get more cryptic.
Oddly enough, it makes me think back to how many times I've gotten into the Sims and experienced the slow but inevitable decline into corruptions, performance problems and bugs that come with every long playthrough, paired with the gradual transition into a ghost-town as the story progression can't keep up with the loss of old sims. Every time I've ended a playthrough it seems so somber.
finally someone who doesn't find it annyoing 😭😭
I feel like after she dies Olive finally got to live for the rest of eternity in the afterlife as the Grim Reaper's wife.
never knew what true cursed energy was until i heard the sims music slowed down fml
Edit: There's a lot more gossip about the MTS/TSR beef, but none of it can be proven by a reputable source anymore. >>
really? why's that? i only vaguely remember the whole t$r debacle since it was so long ago, but I figured what I covered was the gist of it.
Based on Lolita Goth’s outfit I always believed she was more inspired by the Japanese fashion “gothic lolita” than the book.
probably but the sims wikia makes reference to it, hence why I also did
Sims 2 for the ds is a really fun game probably one of my favorite ds games tbh
i love how this whole video is the sims 3 with the sims 2 music
The sims bustin out for GBA feels ,like a fever dream
20:39 I'm kinda late on commenting but there are actually two bigger Opal Suarley theorys that i know of:
1. She was a runaway (because she has no family tree) and found shelter at a circus (she is wearing star shaped facial paint and a matching dress), meeting the Tragic Clown. They were close, but someday he dissapeared (his face is printed on the back of milk cartons, which was an actual way of finding children that went missing in america until 1995 (i think?) when sims cook something) and Opal tryed to search for him (she has the superspy aspiration) and actually found him , but it was too late. The murderer saw and drowned her, just like Sunny. (In most storys the other two graves are said to be her forster parents)
2. It was an "It" easter egg. Opal was based on Georgie Denbrough. One day she was seaarching for the missing clown (maybe he was running away from the Clown catchers?) she had seen on the milk cartons, (just like Georgie followed his boat) but upon finding Sunny who, if it was actually an easter egg, was hiding in the canalisation, he panicked (?) and killed Opal. Then he either killed himself because of gulit, or also drowned in the process.
Sorry, englisch is not my first language.
To say I jumped and swore when the corrupted cat and the scream jumped onto the scream is an understatement
i'm sorry... kinda 😘
5:41 man she's just vibing in parseltongue
I tried so hard to keep watching but the slowed music did my head in
You should do more sims stuff, I love all the creepy Sims stuff
i'm always on the hunt for a sims-related scoop 😔✊
I find it funny that apart from the PC timeline that there is normally a Goth Family and Newbie Family in the console ports. Every Goth family looked similar to their PC counterparts where as the Newbie family looked different in every port. Bob was fat and balding in TS1 for PC but in The Sims 2 Pets for PS2 he was dark skinned and had a full head of hair
Love twinbrook, I like living in the swamp reminds me of the bayou
I've looked for The Sims iceberg videos before. Glad it exists now.
its sept 2 rn!! happy birthday!!
did not expect this lmao thanks!
"We're all Sims"
I mean, the sims have their own Sims game. It's like that episode from Rick and Morty with small universes
Me having my male Sim get his 35th wife pregnant in the Sims 4: “The fuck you mean there’s lore to the Sims???”
ik this has been talked abt but the reason sims 4 is in a different timeline is because alexander goth had gone back 50 years before the sims 2 and wrote Murder in Plesantview to warn the sims of sunset valley as they wouldnt want another murder right? this explains why bella was never abducted and never went off to dons house in oasis springs, hence don lives with dina and nina and mortimer is happily married to bella
I would really love to explore the lore of The Sims 3 Into the Future.
The magic ban is about how in sims3 all supernaturals were allowed everywhere but by the time of sims 1 supernaturals are only allowed in magic town with rare exception and by the time of the sims 2 only witches and vampires exist and even then there are very few of them
I'm sorry if u play the psp story of sims 2 u will find out he dead and that he's remains or in the pool u can Retrieve them and bury him in her garden to get his ghost out of your house
I thought the Princess Cordelia lore would be in here
Same though, hearing her story through the furniture descriptions was always interesting to me
Me too but the maker of the video says she doesn't bother with Sims 4 lore :/
I’m loving the video, but the extremely slowed down music in the background is VERY distracting. It’s all I can focus on honestly
well it's supposed to feel disconcerting...so mission accomplished!
im trying to watch this video in increments because my attention span is shite
*When she said how sad about Olive, my eyes watered*
This has me questioning everything even thought I don't play the sims.
honestly same, these comments have uncovered a lot too
Me, 32 years old with two kids on my homepage seeing this and clicking while thinking it's an interesting video. Video begins, "HELLO KIDS!!!"... Thank you, I guess?
The thing about social bunny… and now the phone app is called social bunny. Woweee
Ngl.
The scariest was the prank calls when i was younger
Hey so the doll wasn’t made by an amateur cc creator, it was made by someone who had been making the same dolls/farm life/etc. For sims 2 and they were incredibly popular, so when sims 3 came out she made the same one and uploaded it, but she made two versions. One containing the viruses doll and one that was the normal one. She had no idea how the virus one got uploaded
But the real question is, how did the virus come to be in the first place? 🤔
It's Just Arin I watched a video on it and I think she made it like that for some reason? Apparently she had no intention yo upload the one with the scripts that were messed up, then it just spiraled and people who wanted to mess up others games hid the scripts in their own creations, kinda like the long boots and that one weird top that glitches out the children toddlers and babies.
After having the haunted doll and a bunch of adult clothes made available to babies & kids somehow end up in my game and freak me out i stopped using the exchange lol
I'm interested, the haunted sims 2 house where the family all died - has anyone played in it? Did anything bad happen to your sims?
I must be an unplayed sim because no one would play a life like mine.
same about the Paramore from sims 2 lol!!! made me a big fan
My favorite thing about the sims is the llama mascot
There’s so many videos about the doll on here, I feel bad you call the modder an amateur since she was a well known modder and it was a very bizarre glitch that happened to her mod.
i did make several corrections in the pinned comment
My favorite Simlish song is Good Day because it’s just so in line with Tally Hall’s brand haha
I had the sims 2 for the DS! One of my favorites too!
And I thought me starving my sim's was bad, This timeline is so interesting.
Glarn Curious had another secret daughter with an unknown woman around the outskirts of Strangetown, who because of her rough upbringing and lack of parental care was insecure in herself. After she heard about Bella's abduction she became obsessed with the phenomenon. When she realized she had a few similar features (the skin tone, the dark hair, the brown eyes) she started impersonating her in private, imagining what the life of Bella Goth must be like. She saw her on milk cartons everywhere, oh how everyone loved her!
She bought the same dress and started wearing her hair the same way as Bella was known to wear it. First it was merely fashion imitation, but then she realized when she went to shop in 88 Road to Nowhere, many people stopped, gaping at her. It was an incredible sensation, to be the center of everybody's attention.
She started to reject her own identity and fully adopted the persona of Bella Goth. When she was questioned she acted as if she didn't remember anything before her abduction by aliens, as to evade any tricky questions about her past.
She didn't know if people actually believed her, but she felt more comfortable only living within that fake persona. She would keep up the story, no matter who questioned her.
Some people decided to just leave her alone and let "Bella Goth" live in Strangetown like a normal person, some people believed she was part of a big government-run conspiracy, and some thought she was the actual and only Bella Goth who was hiding from someone, or something. Was she hiding from Mortimer? Or the aliens?
Over time the whispers grew rarer, and most of the population of Strangetown seemed to have accepted the impersonator as just one more denizen who the desert heat had hit in the head.
The military decided not to report the occurrence to Bella's family because they wanted to spare them the inevitable disappointment.
i would read tf outta this fanfiction!!
i knew there was a bit of sim lore but this was so much more than expected i loved this video!
4:23 However it is possible to have Cassandra successfully marry Don if they max out their relationship status before marriage (they start out by having their status over 90). What's even funny about Don not wanting to marry Cassandra is that if play on Don's household, invite Cassandra over and try to marry her even SHE has a chance reject the marriage. Maybe she knew he was cheating on her, but why would she want to marry him again?