My sister said to me "you've already had sex before marriage, so why do you have to wait now?" And I said because I've been BORN AGAIN. God cleansed me of my sins and now I don't want to break His commands. Thank the Lord he gave me another chance to start over with this new wisdom!!
@Negev-Israel, what gives you the assurance that you will have time to become a Christian before dying? You might die in a car crash or any other type of accident, or heart attack. Please humble yourself before God before it's too late. We only have one life, so please don't mess it up by remaining an enemy of God. God changes hearts and makes people brand-new creatures. It could be you. Don't harden your heart.
As a former bisexual (amongst other things) who is now a spirit filled, Bible believing, follower of Jesus the answer is definitely no. To quote a well known show... " I was one way, but now I am completely different, and the thing that happened in-between was Him."
I agree with the above comment! I too and a former bisexual person who through the Bible and Christ am no longer in that direction But I have a lot of trouble and difficulty explaining to my friends why it's more important to me to deny my so called sexuality for the Word Could you please share your testimony?
Ty guys for the encouragement. I copied my testimony from a pinned post on my Facebook page, so here it is :).... Testimony time!.... If you know me you know I am a follower of Jesus, BUT obviously that wasn't always the case. When I was a child my parents occasionally took me to church and did their best to instill Christian values in me, my maternal grandma also took me to church often and told me about Jesus, and whether or not she knew it at the time she planted spiritual seeds that would ultimately lead me to the truth one day. I'd be lying if I said life wasn't difficult for me at times when I was a child because you see I was born with a disability called Spina Bifida, a birth defect that occurs in about 1 out of every 2,875 births in the US. This particular birth defect left me paralyzed and in need of a wheelchair for the rest of my life, which admittedly made that life difficult for me to navigate at times, but praise the living God for the parents and siblings He gave me for always advocating for me and raising me in such a way that I was given every opportunity possible that a "normal" kid would get AND for never allowing me to use my disability as an excuse not to try. Despite some difficulties my childhood was pretty happy, but later in life as I began to enter my teens hormones set in and with that things got more mentally and emotionally complicated for me. At about age 12 or 13 I discovered and became addicted to porn, an addiction that would follow me well into my marriage until only a few short years ago. To add to that when I was well into my senior year of highschool I REALLY started to struggle mentally and emotionally with being bisexual, being overwhelmingly depressed at times to the point of wanting to take my own life, and being so angry at times that I struggled with thoughts of murder. My mind was a VERY dark and depressing place back then and it's only by the will and grace of the living God that I'm here now a brand new creation in Christ. It also didn't help that back then the only Christians I encountered were Bethelites or other Pentecostal types that were hyper-fixated on the supernatural and always attempting to invite me to miracle conventions of sorts or church services where I could get prayed up and God could "fix"me. I am heartbroken to say that not a single one of them shared the biblical gospel with me, instead they put God in a box and tried desperately to convince me that God's ultimate plan for my life was for him to heal my disability. No one shared with me the fact that in God's kingdom and in God's eyes I had equal value to others and that He loved me unconditionally whether I walked or not, instead I was made to feel like God's kingdom was a place only meant for perfectly whole, pristine, healthy, people and that God could never love me in my current state. My best friend and brother John Brown was the only one out of people like that who showed me Christ's love through his unwavering and non judgemental loyalty and friendship, which also planted a spiritual seed in my life. Yes he also wanted me to come to his church because he wanted to see God heal me so I could walk, but his intentions were pure and he never made me feel like I was broken. Anyway in 2005, two years after I graduated highschool I got to my lowest point ever… I was crying all the time when I was alone, I stayed up all night and slept most of the day away, and I don't recall eating much at all. I was so depressed back then that I was just emotionally numb and physically cold all the time. Honestly I just got to a point where no matter how hard I tried I couldn't see the light at the end of the tunnel. And so I purposed in my heart that if something didn't change or someone or something didn't intervene in about a month or so I was going to end it all. Truth be told the only thing stopping me from ending it was the thought of what my killing myself would do to my family, that and I also started having what I can I only describe as this nudge at the very core of my being that basically told me if I killed myself there would be no going back and I KNEW that if I went through with it I would irrevocably end up in Hell. So one late night while laying in my bed sobbing and still not wanting to live, but also not wanting to end up in Hell for eternity, I did the craziest and most desperate thing I could think of.... I prayed for help. I didn't know if God was real or even listening, and I didn't expect an answer, but I had to do something. I don't remember what I said exactly but it was something along the lines of "God I don't know if you're out there or can hear me, but please help me." The second those words left my lips the change I felt was immediate. It was as if some unknown powerful presence just showed up and drove the pain, depression, sexual confusion, murderous anger, all out of my body. That same presence then took the place of all of the emotional garbage that it had just purged me of and came to reside in me forever. My depression was now replaced with indescribable joy, my confusion was now replaced with unbreakable certainty, and my murderous anger was now replaced with a peace that surpasses all human understanding; In short I now had the spirit of the living God residing in me and guiding me. To say I was shocked at what just happened is an understatement, and my immediate reaction was to shoot up out of my bed and say out loud "He's real?!?!?" I tell you after the Lord saved my life that night and I passed from death to life EVERYTHING was different. The world was completely new to me as if I was a newborn baby seeing it for the very first time, heck! even food tasted better. Can you imagine what that is like? Do you want to? Did my testimony somehow relate to or resonate with what you are currently going through in your own life and you want to know the same amazing freedom that I do now? Because you absolutely can if you are sincere in that desire. See you and I are born with this spiritual infection of sorts called sin, which basically means we have this stain on our souls that causes us to be separated from God and always miss the mark with Him and fall short of his impossibly high standards of perfection. Furthermore the physical and eternal consequences of not living up to God's impossibly high standard of perfection is eternal separation from Him, and to be completely cut off from Him is to be completely cut off from the literal source of love, joy, peace, and every other good and beautiful thing in all of creation. It doesn't matter how nice of a person you or I may be, or how loving and compassionate or helpful you and I are to people, we still lie, hate, lust, steal, and do numerous things that cause us to widen the rift and continue fall short of God's standard of perfection (Romans 3:23.) Only one person in the history of the universe has ever completely lived up to God's impossible standard..... God Almighty Himself. Instead of sitting on the sidelines and allowing you and I to be eternally separated from God by our own choices He took it upon Himself to clean up our mess. 2000 years ago God took human form in the person of Jesus Christ and He lived a perfect and blameless life, even going so far as to experience everything we would in this life (sorrow, temptation, rejection, etc.) More than that Jesus willingly took the eternal punishment for your sins and mine upon himself to pay the heavy price for our mistakes so we could all have reconciliation with God through Him for all eternity. Jesus was brutally tortured and murdered unjustly on your behalf and mine, but then rose again 3 days after He died (proving His identity as God) just so he wouldn't have to spend eternity without you, His child because He loves you with a love that will never waiver. Whoever you are whatever you've done it is vital that you understand that God purposely limited Himself by giving you free will, and according to His own honorable nature He won't force you into His presence against your will, it HAS to be your choice. No matter what you've done or how far you've fallen you are NOT beyond His redemption, If however you continue to choose to live this life separated from God then He will honor that decision in eternity. Now you may be asking "why should I take God at His word or believe anything at all in the Bible is true? Well looking at the Bible there are 73 books that were written over the course of 1500 years on three different continents by over 40 different authors, some of which were from different generations and didn't have any contact whatsoever; And yet these authors all came together to form this one congruent story. Jesus Himself has fulfilled over 300 old testament messianic prophecies and the probability of somebody fulfilling even just 8 messianic prophecies is 1 and 10 to the 17th power which is 1 with 17 0s behind it. If you were to drop that many coins into the state of Texas it would fill it two feet deep. 48 prophecies is 1 and 10 to the 157th power. So if you lined up electrons it would take you 19,000,000 years to count all of those electrons. This is all to say that it is humanly impossible as well as statistically impossible for anybody to fulfill these prophecies, yet Jesus did. You can trust Him. You can take Him at his word. He's standing at the door of your heart knocking.... Will you answer?
So he doesn't answer the question. What about lust,gluttony, greed,laziness, wrath, envy, pride, drunkenness, strife, heresies... Christ came to forgive and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. As Jesus told the adulterous woman, repent go and sin no more. There's your answer.
Using the reasoning of "the Bible does t say" is a weak stance to take. God doesn't owe any human explanations for everything. More importantly, you are correct sir. Jesus didn't have to say that. There are countless things the Bible doesn't have to say. Amen brother!
@@wildcaveman5310 Not for u its not! Romans 1 is paul having a go at the heterosexuals he knew who used same sex acts in idolotry cults, so it says NOTHING on LGBT people at all.
A christian is not defined as someone who believes that the Bible is inerrant or lacks internal contradictions. A christian is one who believes in the person of Jesus and follows Him to the best of their ability, knowing that no christian follows Him perfectly. So, yeah. "He who is not against [Him] is for Him"
I'm an American Christian. It's just an identifier for the purpose of clarity in dialogue.It's not necessarily an indication someone does not primarily find their identity in Christ. I haven't stopped being an American since I became a Christian.
Why do you have to identify that way though .. we should all just be brothers and sisters in Christ. What makes being an American Christian any different to being say a Canadian Christian? Or Australian .. or Chinese Christian?
@@andrewholliday2530 People don't usually deny that someone is Christian because they happen to be an American. If most Christians started to teach that being an American automatically excluded them from Christianity, then, as a pushback, American Christians might choose to start identifying as such. That's basically what I'm doing. I'm pushing back against the false narrative that LGBTQ people cannot be Christian by openly identifying myself as such.
@@andrewholliday2530 One does not need to justify one's Christianity because they are an American. If most Christians started claiming one could not be both an American and a Christian, then American Christians might start pushing back against that by identifying as such. That is all I am doing when I identify as a gay Christian. I am pushing back against the false narrative that LGBTQ people cannot be or are not, even though many of us claim to be, Christian
Those who follow the Lord Jesus face all manner of attractions and temptations to things in this world. By the Spirit's help, they can be laid to rest. But there is only one identity that matters: In Christ. All the rest of this world's identities will soon pass away.
@@fido652 Is it selfish as though one were using the other person purely to satisfy one's appetites? Is it a manufactured fantasy that one controls and which increases those selfish appetites? Or is it deep love and attachment to a real person to whom one is committed for life? Motivations and practices matter. Out of the purity of one's heart comes pure thoughts and actions.
@@stephenbailey9969Not sure if you are referring to gay relationships or straight ones. If you are anti love you are just a bigot hiding behind religion.
Jesus didn't say anything about pedophilia (now called "minor attracted persons"), beastiality (now called "zoophilia"), or multiple/multual sex partners ("polyamorism"), either. Edited to add regarding the three listed above: - There are factions of academia and psychiatry who are already pushing the idea that an attraction to children is a sexual orientation, which the person "unfortunately, cannot act upon." They always start by trying to build sympathy. Some are also making a case that some minors could want and welcome early sexual relationships with a "trusted" adult. -There have been demonstrations in Europe by men standing with their dogs by their sides, declaring their love and sexual affinity for their pets. The demonstrations were protected by police. -There are already churches where the congregants are tearfully told that "God loves and honors your polyamorous relationships." Will the day come when anyone who doesn’t affirm those practices will be called a bigot?
I'm pretty sure you missed my point entirely. I agree with you. My comment was extending the claim of the "Jesus never said" crowd into its logical and discomforting progression. Once one steps out of the order ordained by God, anything goes.
No, you cannot, and Jesus spoke of sexual immorality, which includes homosexuality. In 2008, I was a gay-identified man, in a committed, monogamous same-sex relationship, active in an affirming church, where we called ourselves gay Christians. Then I found myself in an ICU where the medical team classified me clinically dead after a 22-minute flatline. I experienced death, judgement and hell. When I couldn’t take any more demonic torment, I cried out in repentance, “Jesus!” and I heard the Savior say, “I am here.” At that moment, I saw with my eyes the Wind of the Holy Spirit fill my ICU and with great power, He pick up Satan and the demonic and blew them out of the room. On that day, my life changed, the redemptive Blood of Jesus cleared my mind of perversion and completely healed and restored every failing organ. Glory to God!
To answer the video since Costi didn't give a direct answer to the title: Can a Christian be gay? No. There is no such thing as a gay Christian. To proclaim that you profess Christ, yet violate the clear teachings of scripture regarding this depraviltiy you in fact are not repentant and therefore unregenerate. That is not to say someone who practices gay activities cannot become a Christian. But, in order to have assurance of that saving faith repentance and abandonment of homosexuality is required.
I agree you can't be a Christian and homosexual, but you can't be a Christian and a liar, and a swindler, and a fornicator, and whatsoever sin that separates us from God The "such were some of you" that Paul emphatically speaks of is not based on works but the imputed righteousness of Christ in these bodies of death! Sin is still crouching at the door and at times we will sin BUT that's why confession is part of the commandments that Jesus has left us! The old is gone the new has come but not in our own efforts!
@@theouterplanet repentance is daily and sanctification is a lifelong processes. But it means you are in the process. No one can have Christ and their chosen sin simultaneously. Fully acknowledging Christ is the author of my salvation alone is true, but that also does not excuse abusing the grace of God by continuing in a known sin.
Love doesn’t mean, do whatever you feel like doing….God is love, but he’s also holy and just. When we raise a child, we don’t just let them do whatever they want, because some things are harmful…we protect them because we love them…there’s a difference…
As a guy with same sex attraction living in a liberal area, I was encouraged to live the gay life. It’s a very depressing life filled with promiscuity, STDs, drugs, porn. I can’t believe how hard gays fought for marriage just to have open relationships (adultery). So glad I found Jesus. Nothing will every make me go back to that life again.
God bless you! The gay promotion is part of bigger, malignant agenda with the sole purpose of creating a wedge between God and humanity. There's no actual truth to any of the promises they boasts of joy, love and peace. On the contrary, that all comes from God. Keep seeking God, through Jesus Christ, in fervent truth - He liberates and cleans us, for His purpose for us is good. He seeks a Church w/o spot, crease or blemish (Ephesians5:27); thus, He is the One who sanctifes us. We just have to seek Him, truly, and remain holding on to His promises. We were once drowning in sin, but no more. We were once one thing, but no more. For some WERE us, but no longer, as written below: "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11). "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17). "For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope." (Jeremiah 29:11).
There’s a reason this video is only 2 minutes long. It doesn’t need to be any longer. The answer is so obvious and clear to anyone with even the most basic knowledge of God and His Word. Thanks Costi! 🙏
Some feel it violates the natural norm (but so do dozens of animal species) and others simply are disgusted by the idea. I find that it is much more important to focus on the sins that actually hurt people.
Homosexuality is the full corruption of the human identity; so, to directly answer your question: everything is wrong. Thus, it's written: "For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." (Romans 1:26-32).
@@joepugh678 Thanks! I can see why that'd be your inclination. What would you say to Christians who told you that, as for hurting people, homosexuality is a sin that hurts God, the most important person?
You are angel that left heaven to fornicate. Are angels male or female? No. So how do they fornicate? By occupying an idol called a human host body. Thus, heterosexuality is a sin too. One Gospel: Gospel (GOOD ANGEL) of Reconciliation. Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself. We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness. If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever. Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods). REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.
Correct. You can be a Christian that has same sex attractions, but once people make their identity based on their sexuality, they're basically saying they know better than God and I find it hard to reconcile their faith. I'm sure some people are tricked into speaking that way but actually are Christian, yet there's a difference between embracing the identity and recognizing the sin.
@@VidmantasSwan Your great answer indicates that either you think Christians can be Gay or that Christians can't have sinful thoughts? Or maybe you didn't understand what I said long with your buddy below?
If you can justify being gay after reading these 2 passages - then you’ll be ok …. But I doubt you can. 1 Corinthians 10:31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Colossians 3:17 And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.
There's no need to justify "being gay" any more than justify being short or tall. It can't be "cured" so either all of us are forbidden to love and be loved to not. Jesus cautioned against celibacy unless the individual were given such a gift. Matt 19; 11
@@joepugh678 Love is not lust, and homosexuality is not of God as it's an abomination before His eyes (Leviticus 20:13). Why would God order to stone gays, back then, if what they possessed was love? Additionally, even if they do not engage in physical relationships, they'd still be charged with being gay or lust, as Jesus explained in regards to lust: “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matthew 5:27-28). And, being gay is the payment given to humanity when they distance themselves from God, self-corruption, as elaborated here: "Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, ... For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due." (Romans 1:24,26-27). So, yes, people vainly attempt to justify themselves but all entirely wrong for God can and will liberate them and heal them of the perversion, if they choose to seek Him in fervent truth. Thus, it's written: "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
@@Man.of.God30 Thank you for taking so much time to write for my benefit. IF I wrote to you all I have learned form 40 years of living with this and praying and working and programs and marriage, I would have to write a whole book for your edification. God bless!
@@joepugh678 You're wholly mistaken. 40 years of being ensnared, deceived and spiritually blinded is not something to boast about. If, after 40 years, you're still in the same condition, you're doing something wrong. By grace of the Lord, I was freed of it, so why are you still encaged? Those 40 years of "work," are not for the glory of God. On the contrary, it's been a wasted effort as you continue the toxic blinded deceit onto others. "Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.” (Matthew 15:14).
@@ministermattocks7570 Huh? What? What has Polygyny have to do with the topic at hand? Yes, great men of God had many wives. He even told David if he wanted more he would have given him more. Not getting your comment…
@@ministermattocks7570 It's not "homophobia", it's the same condemnation as any other sin. If it's wrong, it's wrong. Nice try manipulating though. "It's a sin to condemn a sin." It's not about hating or disliking the sinner, it's about pointing out right and wrong. Very simple.
@@josephl6289 No stop finding ways to excuse ur sin, it is homophobia and homophobia is a sin. I get u have a need to manipulate Gods word so your homophobic lifestyle looks ok. I am just helping you to repent and stop following satan as ur false god....BLESSINGS
We all sin practically everyday I.e the average human mind processes approx 60 000 thoughts. How many of those thoughts were sinful, can we keep a realistic tally? I think there are specific sins which the bible specifically tells us to avoid at all costs, top of the list being sexual sins. A Christian can’t live in a perpetual state of ongoing sexual sin, from porn addiction to adultery etc.
@@trevrockrock16 so, how much can we fight sin? How can we meassure our effort? And how can it be that we are secure/sure of our salvation? My works will NEVER be enough...
This one-time identifying asexual has been saved and had my eyes opened. The devil took my God-given desire for purity and a fear of men and told me that I was made different and that I needed to find a home and welcome in the world as part of the LGBTQIA+, even though I would have nearly nothing in common with these people. God makes some people less susceptible to some desires. They can use this for the kingdom of God. And I have intense anxiety empathy for people who run to gather together and rewrite the rules to make themselves feel better- Lord, please deliver these people from the deception and turn them toward yourself in Jesus like you turned me. Amen.
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Romans 12:2
Amen. Just wanted to expound on this. Against people who make such claims I would say: The whole Bible is God’s word, not just the words of Jesus. All scripture is God breathed. The spirit that Jesus spoke by was the same spirit by which the prophets and apostles spoke from long ago, the Spirit of God. Jesus is the same God as the God in the Old Testament. Jesus also spoke against fornication/sexual immorality in Matthew 15:19 which that word in Greek defines it accordingly to God’s laws in the Old Testament surrounding sex. This includes adultery, bestiality, homosexuality & lesbianism. Paul also speaks against such sexually illicit acts in 1 Corinthians 6:9 (fornicators), 1 Timothy 1:10 (sodomites), Roman’s 1:26-27 (homosexuals). Jude also speaks about God’s judgment against those who go after strange flesh (unauthorized, foreign sexual conduct). We should not affirm or justify homosexuality and no regenerate Christian makes practice or delights in such acts like an unbeliever but if a believer is struggling with that rather than condemn them, like Paul we should encourage and exhort them that their bodies matter to God, they belong to Him, that we should glorify Him while in this flesh and can do so by relying on His power. Praise the Lord
@@ministermattocks7570 yeah I know I was just highlighting specific scriptures (and in the New Testament because unbelievers tend to only consider that and not the old ) of commands and principles for conciseness
@@trevrockrock16 Yes Paul did not agree with the homophobic lifestyle as God didn't.....so no he did NOT affirm the homophobic lifestyle choice that you made.....no exceptions.
Another argument is that Jesus is God, the Father is God, and the Spirit is also God. The God of the Old Testament is not in "ideology" separate from Jesus and condemned homosexuality as capital punishment, and all the words written by Paul in the New Testament are inspired by the Spirit. Therefore, either Jesus is at odds with the two other persons of the Trinity (which essentially means our God is not real), or He is not. If there are any doubts, the latter is correct.
Right, that is correct. But, so is homosexuality, and you cannot justify your sins in contrast to someone else's sins. God cleans and frees both the glutton and homosexual of their lifestyle and perverted identity.
@@Man.of.God30 Who is justifying any sins here? It is a question. Evangelicals/ Pentecostals / Fundamentalists have a warped idea of what it is to be a Christian. The historic churches have always understood that a Christian is someone who has been baptized into Christ. There are sheep and goats, wheat and tares among the body of Christ. Salvation is not to be taken for granted. It is a process that we are to work out with "fear and trembling". God sanctifies, over time, those who choose to follow him. (Those who "Believe and are baptized" as Jesus said in Mark 16:16.) (We do not save ourselves by simply saying a made-up prayer that is nowhere to be found in Scripture). Not everyone who says "Lord, Lord" will be saved. Those who are goats among the sheep, and tares among wheat, will be destroyed, just as Jesus says.
@@twfourofsix "You," as in anyone - generic term. It's true what you write, as well, for Jesus Christ Himself said: "Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me." (John 14:23-24). Yet, there's a difference between someone struggling through sin in contrast with someone identifying with it. For its stated: "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17). So, not everyone who simply states 'Lord, Lord' is true, bur rather he/she who demonstrates their fervent, true faith in action and manner of living; thus, the Apostle Paul explained: "But you have not so learned Christ, if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness." (Ephesians 4:20-24). That's how one can differentiate between the true or false, sheep or goat, wheat or tares. Then, given the topic of the video, can a Christian be gay?
@@fido652 You have no substance to comment, so you speak nonsense. Why? In Roman-occupied Israel, which was heavily taxed, people were forced into servitude and made slaves; thus, had no easy access to basic necessities such as food. How, then, could they become fat? In any event, Jesus Christ could only serve as the sacrificial lamb if He was holy, which He was. Meaning, He couldn't have been a glutton. Even if you don't believe in God, it'd be beneficial for you to know some basic history, geography and sociology to help you understand that it was next to impossible for a Hebrew to be fat in that era.
I am gay, I used to watch gay porn, lust over and have sex with men. I am trying to avoid these things now for a couple of months, and God has been very helpful. But I can still feel the struggle and I am still attracted to the same sex. Is avoiding gay practices enough so an individual can't be labelled as homosexual (biblically)? Or a person like me should expect to be totally healed and be transformed into a real man? I need answers, please.
God bless you, the more you grow closer to God, the more you're cleaned of sin and what's been polluting you. "Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. ..." (James 4:8). You'll come to discover as you're testifying that stopping from doing certain activities, does not change you inside. Don't quit in abstaining from all that you've already stopped doing - you won't become clean if you keep swimming in the mud. Know, however, that it is God that makes the change in us. He's the One the cleans, sanctifies and purifies from the inside out. So, once you're clean within, you'll stop having the want to pursue the outward activities. The outside reflects the inside. God cleans from within - the heart, mind, spirit and soul. That was the entire purpose of Jesus Christ; thus, we come to Church in search of Him, to be renewed. Reborn. As the last verse shared below, some WERE we, but we have been cleaned and transformed. God bless you, don't lose hope and keep the faith - it's not an easy road. After all, how to escape that which dictates the heart, governs the mind and alters the emotions? In Jesus Christ, you can. "But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin." (1 John 1:7). "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17). "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
Got a question for you loving folks. “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB) Anyone care to explain?
Yes I can explain. All of the fullness of the law was lived out by Jesus Christ, who took on the penalty for all of our sin, because otherwise we all would have received the due punishment for our sin, which was death. In the garden in Genesis, God told Adam and Eve that if they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they would die. God shows His mercy by not immediately killing them, but instead cursing them, which is called bearing their iniquity. God gives us the law to show the seriousness of sin and its punishment, yet at the same time He’s merciful and justifier of the law by His son Jesus Christ.
@@RandomStuff-i4i because they are blind, just as we have been, trying to justify their sin instead of submitting themselves humbly to the Word of God. If you don’t believe the Bible is the inerrant, infallible Word of God, completely and utterly written by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, then there’s all kinds of room for justification of sin. Sola Scriptura, everything should be rooted in the Word of God and conformed to it and it can be trusted. The Word is Christ. The world tries to conform scripture to its values and perception, that’s why people argue that. They love the Jesus part, but not the actual repenting and changing and becoming like Him.
This is where theology gets deep and requires a mature mind to rightly divide the word of truth. The answer to the question is, "No, unrepentant homosexuals cannot be Christians." The word "unrepentant" is key here. Faith alone, not works, saves. But saving faith is evidenced by good works and a life of repentance. When Paul says that homosexuals and adulterers (and others) cannot enter the kingdom of heaven, there isn't a presumption of sinlessness. It's a presumption of a life of progressive sanctification. We will all sin post-conversion. Some of us will mess up badly. But a truly redeemed person will (eventually) repent, confess their sin, get back up, and do better tomorrow. Those who defiantly live in homosexuality and deny their sin, while attempting to affirm salvation, are who Paul is talking about. These people are not born again and will be shocked when they hear, "Depart from me. I never knew you!" If you have people in your life like this, warn them and pray God grants them repentance.
@@JeremyThielman Not so fast, brother. Or haven't you read the innumerable conditional statements throughout the New Testament. The first few chapters of Hebrews alone are chock full of them. The genuine believer is secure in Christ and cannot lose their salvation. However, not every profession of faith is genuine. Christ himself said so. The "but" isn't conditioning eternal security. It's about whether or not one is genuinely saved to begin with. A professing believer who knowingly and defiantly lives a lifestyle that the Word condemns, and that person never repents, demonstrates a belief in vain. You neither earn nor keep salvation through good works. You prove you are redeemed to begin with. It is impossible to escape that truth, as it permeates the NT. The extreme, greasy grace notion that you can mechanically be in the club by checking boxes 1, 2, and 3, but never, ever demonstrate a life inclined toward Christ is a concept to be found nowhere in scripture.
@@gregmcray Congratulations you've only defined the argument between Calvinists and Armenians; two sides of the same false gospel coin. Calvin: No fruit thus you must have never been saved. That's your position. Armenian: You can lose you salvation. That's what you defended against. "You prove you are redeemed to begin with." No, Christ leaves the 99 and finds the 1 where he is sick, broken and full of sin to meet him where he is. "The extreme, greasy grace notion that you can mechanically be in the club by checking boxes 1, 2, and 3, but never, ever demonstrate a life inclined toward Christ is a concept to be found nowhere in scripture." Right, tell that to the scriptures about the paralyzed healed and went their way, the ten lepers who went their way no following as disciples. The man born blind who professed and was kicked out of the synagogue. Zachias whom all the people (like you) who say, 'But, Lord, he is a SINNER!' All 'professed' Christ and did not follow as disciples in their flesh. Guess their belief was enough just as scripture proclaims. Eph2:8-10, John3:16/6:28,29,40. Ro4:5.10:9,10. You know... all those greasy grace passages. I will agree that many will say, sure I believe in Jesus, but do not. They do it for cultural reasons, family or peer pressure. They certainly don't do it when christendom doesn't show them the need for Christ because of their condemnation of God's law. They pervert the gospel of grace (both Calvin and Armenian) with but's, and's and as you wrote "However".
@@JeremyThielman Weak argument, Jeremy. Equating spiritual redemption with recipients of Jesus's healing ministry is a bizarre way of making an argument. That doesn't even make sense.
I've never seen a Church kick out a sinner for sinning; but, once received, it is to be cleansed and not to further sin. Huge distinction. On the contrary, I've witnessed many homosexuals leave the Church and depart of the faith, distancing their own selves from God. "She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.”" (John 8:11).
@@Man.of.God30 I have. My mother was excommunicated for having an affair. You should not be surprised when one leaves a church they are not welcome at. I left Mormonism to be welcomed at an Episcopal church.
@@RodGustavson There's a difference between the Church of Christ, founded in the principles and commandments of His love, than man made religious sects that go outside of what is written in the Bible for the purpose of subjugating people. In essence, modern day slavery. Even the Bible explains how coming to Christ is of our own choice and free will to elect. People often don't seek God themselves to learn of the truth and then be able to discern which Church actually is a Church. If a homosexual is slammed the door in their face or accepted to remain in their sin, they're not right with God. If a Church accepts them to aid them in getting to close to God, so He cleans them reflects His love. Huge distinction.
@@Man.of.God30 you missed the meaning behind we are all sinners. It’s not because I’m gay and you’re who knows what. Sin has nothing to do with who you are. Sin is separation from God.
“Can Christians be gay?” Depends on the definition of gay. If they are practicing homosexuals, then no. But if they are dealing with homosexual attraction, but not falling into temptation, then yes
Sorry boss The answer is yes & yes if you don’t, or can’t agree with that, you don’t understand Grace, being forgiven and saved not by lifestyle but by faith alone, again I am not endorsing the sin whatsoever but that’s what it means to be saved by grace ✝️✝️✝️
Some days Im truly at a loss at living this life. According to the Bible, Im not allowed to act on my feelings, not allowed to be in a relationship, cant watch porn. So what then? Am I really just supposed to be celibate and alone for the next 30-40 years? Everyone around me gets to find someone, have families, but people like me just have to spend our lives Alone? Make this make sense.
Trust me I am currently struggling with this too. I've been slowly losing faith by listening to these people tell me that gays are "abominations". I never CHOSE to be this way. And like I hate when they tell me to "pray the gay away" because I tried and NEWSFLASH! It doesn't work. And the whole celibacy thing sucks too. We only ever get one chance at life and love is one of the greatest feelings in the world. So, it sucks to know that I'll live my life without feeling love just to feel love in the afterlife. I will say this: I personally believe that God loves anyone, regardless if they're straight, gay, bisexual, etc. Everyone sins on the daily. And these people who want to tell you that you are an "abomination" are not true Christians, for if they truly followed the word of God, they would know "Judge not, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the same measure you use, it will be measured to you" (Matthew 7:1-2). I wouldn't really take these people too seriously. God's judgements matter, not theirs. Just focus on building a strong relationship with God, believe in Jesus, and be the best person you can be, and everything shall be alright in the end :)
You're mixing various things into one grave error. What makes you think your same-sex attraction are YOUR actual feelings? Just b/c your memory holds same-sex as the only thing you've known, it doesn't mean that's always been the case, nor does it confirm the current modern belief of being born this way. You've made a small reference to the Bible, but have you read on how certain things are to be discerned spiritually, by the Spirit? (1 Corinthians 2:14). As an example, through psychology, we are able to identify the affects and influence that certain mental illnesses have on a person. People who suffer depression subsequently experience a change in likes and dislikes. That, in itself, does NOT constitute nor becomes their real, true identity. The like is of homosexuality. To call it a mental illness is incredibly superficial as the issue is not in the mind, though it does influence thoughts, but rather rooted in the soul. Hence, my mention of being discerned spiritually. You dictate to yourself a hopeless situation with an absence of love and fulfillment that's associated in finding a partner and spouse. However, it's because of your lack of faith that you only see despair. Sure, you can watch porn and hook up with anyone - same sex or not - but that doesn't bring satisfaction in the heart. It only satisfies the carnel desires of the flesh at that particular moment. Not sure why you, or anyone, would consciously elect that lifestyle? To each their own. God can liberate from homosexuality. Most often people only allow themselves to listen to the garbage lies of the world that say you cannot change and pair it with the personal feelings inside that suggest one was created gay. That makes ZERO sense. I was gay once and voiced it proudly and believed the same lie. Of course, I was unhappy; but, only gave the "Christian crazy-talk" a shot once I found myself with no future or hope. To my surprise, what the Bible says it's true. So, who says God cannot clean you, heal you or liberate you? You do. And that's the choice made, which is the simple doctrine of the Christian faith: an election. Not sure if you believe, or not, in God, but I hope what I shared simplifies it. Of course, there's more depth to it and the Bible explains it in full. There's hope, and God is real. Your decision is what dictates what your outcome will be. Not by force, but by free election: of faith, or a lack thereof. God bless you! "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
And this is exactly how organized religion has a stronghold on the masses by instilling fear, fire and brimstone, a wrathful god with a vengeance backed up by their man written doctrines influenced by culture and society at the time of such books/scriptures were written. This is not the god I serve. My god is a god of UNCONDITIONAL love and compassion. No parent would EVER condemn their own children to burn in hell for eternity. Would you as a parent do that to your child ???
I would certainly warn my child of destructive behavior, and foolish choices, and you would not? Your god is made in your own image my friend, that is a father who hates his child, its certainly not love. And He will not force anyone to live the way He desires, or force Himself on anyone. If they seek to live apart from Him in this life He will let them live that way in the next, they were warned. But He has made a way to avoid the judgement to come in the death of His Son. By placing ones faith in the Savior, He offers a new life, eternal life. "Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all everywhere should repent, because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead"
@@eastcoastglobetrotter1760 the only way you can conclude obedience is not necessary is to tear out parts of what Jesus said. Unconditional love is not the same thing as a tolerance of evil. We cannot continue to sin and take advantage of God’s grace. Hell is real. Don’t lie to yourself and pretend otherwise.
Costi never answered the question in the title. No duh, homosexuality is a sin according to scripture but that’s not the titled question. YES, homosexual can be a Christian, just like anyone else who sins because again, WE ALL DO DAILY!!! Homosexuality is a sin and we’re ALL sinners, saved or not! I’m not gay and I don’t think it’s right but to suggest that someone isn’t saved because they’re gay is what someone would do who doesn’t understand justification by faith
“No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.” 1 John 3:9 ESV There are certain ways to test if you are truly saved, and those who make a practice of sinning are not of God. A homosexual follower of Christ does not exist, the same as a fornicator or pornography-watching Christian. Who the Son sets free, is free indeed and if we are granted repentance and turn away from that sin, that’s how we know we are saved.
@@juanthebaptist8126 God bless you friend but you’ve got way too much faith in the flesh and not 100% in Christ. You’re going to sin, whether it’s a little or a lot and God forbid that it’s obvious, atrocious sins that hurt folks BUT that has NOTHING to do with your salvation or it would be about you and not 100% about Christ. You cannot look upon the flesh for “evidence” of salvation. The only thing you can go off of for assurance is have you believed on Christ’s finished work on the cross that it’s sufficient for all things and if you have, you’re permanently saved and sealed for eternity. Rightly divide, rightly divide, rightly divide! God is done with the flesh, you should judge it also understanding that no good can from it apart from Christ, therefore you can’t look upon it for “evidence” of anything outside of morality.
@@benprestridge6787 You misunderstand. I’m not looking to my flesh as evidence of salvation but the spirit of God that lives within me. “Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-unless indeed you fail to meet the test! I hope you will find out that we have not failed the test.” 2 Corinthians 13:5-6 ESV You’re right to say that I will sin again. For example, I accidentally stole 11 cents from someone when I short changed them. I thought the total was different than it was. When I did that, the spirit of God inside of me convicted me and I had to go make things right, even if it was just 11 cents. So although I might sin again, because of the spirit of God inside of me, I do not make a practice of sin anymore, I can’t. Otherwise, it’d be evidence that I failed the test. It’d be evidence that the spirit of God isn’t actually working inside of me. And if you are practicing homosexuality or any sin, conscious sin that you know is wrong but continue on in it, you are not saved. You have not repented. And the spirit of God is not working inside of you. God is not darkness. He is only light. Therefore one who knows the truth yet chooses to continue walking in the ways of sin and darkness, are not His children. Those who may sin, and repent and get back on the path of Christ, those are the ones who are saved. The spirit inside of them will not let them continue on in sin. They will be driven to repentance and turn away from that sin. You can’t have the good of Jesus Christ without repentance and turning away from continual sin. I’m saved because of what Christ did in me, because He granted me a repentant heart supernaturally and in that moment I instantly was freed from the bondage of my own sexual immorality, in pornography. And drug addiction as well. That’s how I know I’m saved. Because of what He did. God will save those in darkness who repent. God will save those in homosexuality out of it if they repent.
@@juanthebaptist8126 Yes, I understand Christ is in me because I’m crucified with Him, nevertheless I live, yet not I but Christ in me and I don’t look on the flesh for anything like you do regarding spirituality, I’m done with it as God is. I have no hope in myself, just faith in Christ who is sufficient for ALL things. I assume you think the members of the church of Corinth were all going to hell based off your belief that you can’t be saved if you’re committing repetitive sins even though Paul addressed them as believers and said He knew them by their “utterance”…. By what they professed, their testimony of Christ alone, it certainly wasn’t their actions, their “repetitive sins” which they were committing, yet still saved! My focus is to rest in faith in my reward that is Christ, all that I have by receiving Him, knowing that I’m fully justified, sanctified and redeemed, that I’ve been made a co-heir with Christ, that He presents be spotless and without blame and that I can go to God boldly whenever, even if I fall into repetitive, obvious sins as you’re talking about. I don’t focus on my sins or others as it pertains to Christ because He’s not concerned with it, He’s already defeated sin and it’s nailed to the cross. Learn to rightly divide by reading all of scripture through the lens of the mystery of Christ in us revealed through Paul Have a good day friend
@@benprestridge6787 I think you misunderstand God’s grace. His grace and His kindness are meant to lead us into repentance. Not merely this state of bliss where we just rest in who we are because Jesus died for us. That sacrifice on the cross is meant to change us, and break us. God is merciful and gracious, but He’s also holy and righteous. The ones who are truly His, He will put through the fire of refinement to sanctify us and to make Him like His son, Christ, before we enter the kingdom of God. God hates sin. So to say that you boldly go to His throne living in constant, repetitive sin, I’m sorry to tell you that He doesn’t hear you. “When you spread out your hands, I will hide my eyes from you; even though you make many prayers, I will not listen; your hands are full of blood. Wash yourselves; make yourselves clean; remove the evil of your deeds from before my eyes; cease to do evil, learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow’s cause. “Come now, let us reason together, says the Lord: though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall become like wool. If you are willing and obedient, you shall eat the good of the land; but if you refuse and rebel, you shall be eaten by the sword; for the mouth of the Lord has spoken.”” Isaiah 1:15-20 ESV Read that whole first part of Isaiah. He’s talking about a people that believe in Him, but continue on in wickedness and sin. They find themselves justified in the law, the same as people now are finding themselves justified by Christ and what He did, that’s the start of faith. But a mature believer has repented and turned away from continual and repetitive sin. “But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe-and shudder! Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?” James 2:18-20 ESV If your life isn’t a representation of walking the same way Christ walked, because of the change that happened inside of you, which is salvation, than it’s quite possible that faith is dead. You’re absolutely right, that everyone has sinned and the only way to get into heaven is by believing in Christ and the work of the cross, that we are saved by grace through faith. The question is how do we know we truly are believers? And have we truly repented, which is a turning away from repetitive sin? “And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” Acts 2:38 ESV If you have not repented, if you have not wept and mourned and been broken over your sin, and what we did to Jesus on the cross, to the point of your heart being completely transformed from stone to flesh, and turning from your sin, you do not have the Holy Spirit. That’s scripture, not my opinion. And I am looking at it in the context of the whole Bible. I know God, and He knows me. God is merciful, but He is also judge. Christ gives us the power to turn from sin and become like Him. That’s why there is no excuse. But believing is just the first step, the entrance to the narrow gate. We must take the step of repentance, which God graciously grants.
For those who are very quick to comment “the answer is no!” I have a question for you: what of the Christians who are same sex attracted and live celibate lifestyles to hold to a biblical sex ethic in service of Jesus? They are clearly gay. Are they out? Is there no grace for their sin?
Correct, they still have no entry into Heaven. Adultery, fornication and homosexuality are all different types of sins (1 Corinthians 6:9-10), though we usually see them overlap. If a LGBTQ+ person does not engage in the first two, they're still homosexual. It's written: “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matthew 5:27-28). Lust is another type of sin, which people, straight or gay, engage in almost daily in this modern, lustful society. It's ever-present in the hypersexual LGBTQ+ community. So, even if a gay person does not engage in physical relationships, they're still lusting after other men. That extends from their twisted identity. Typically, no fault of their own - initially. The fault comes when they succumb to the perversion. Many people are quick to judge b/c it's not a difficult case to sentence. After all, before Christ, in the Law, gays were stoned to death as it's an abomination before the eyes of the Lord. Glory to God, that's not the case anymore and now there's mercy and grace. To him or her who CHOOSES to repent. Even so, there's hope for change and transformation, in healing and liberation that only occurs when we're before the Presence of the Almighty. He cleans, He washes us - if we CHOOSE to lay our sin down at His feet (whatever it is). This is where many don't understand: the healing and liberation process; or, in other words, the transformation. Being gay is a "disease" within the soul. How do you cure it? It's impossible! Ask any member of the LGBTQ+ community. There isn't medication, therapy or procedures that can heal ailments of the soul. Yet, God can. So, yes, there's mercy and grace, but for the person to come to Christ and be freed of their prison, not for them to continue their sinful life, with or without physical intimacy (as noted first, that'd be a different sin/issue). People struggle with that. It's not an easy battle, but not impossible with God. Hope that provides more insight. God bless you! "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11). "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17).
@@bryce8418 Paul makes it clear that those who practice homosexuality well not inherit the kingdom. Having thoughts but not entertaining those stats are not the same level of Sin
@@resistingRage so with that in mind… if someone were to call themselves a “gay Christian” because attracted to the same sex but lived celibate lifestyles is that okay?
@@bryce8418 The person would still be gay, though. God liberates and transforms. Not sure why many gays prefer to stay as such, as opposed to have faith in God. I myself lived through it YEARS ago. It's not an easy road. I mean, the Christian walk never is. How can someone remain gay and still be a Christian? Just by having those thoughts and feelings I your mind and heart is a sin. “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matthew 5:27-28)
The desire of attraction is within all souls, however, the soul (a point of light) is genderless, either male or female. The soul simply plays it part according to the body's gender. The first mistake humans made was to identify themselves as male and female, a body, rather than the soul occupying the body. Sometimes a soul will have stronger feelings for a certain body type/gender or just with the soul alone, the personality, which is perfectly normal. Souls have been taking birth to male and female bodies since time immemorial. And in some births we are drawn to a certain body preference due to past life experiences.
Can you believe in God & still be attracted to the same gender? Absolutely. Can you call yourself a gay Christian then? Absolutely not. Our identity as a Christian is soley in Christ. He's the one that gave up equality with God, submitted Himself to being human & dying on the Cross to reconcile us to God. How dare anyone seek to put THEIR identity in the same line, in the same breathe, as that. Jesus said if anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself, pick up his cross, & follow Him. Being a Christian is not about you. It's not about expressing yourself; it's about denying yourself. It's not about being whatever or whoever you want to be; It's about being who Christ wants you to be. It's not about your identity; it's about reflecting the nature & character of God. Being gay might be contrary to scripture, just like a straight middle-aged guy being attracted to young single girls, just like someone who wants to get drunk all the time, but that's our cross we have to carry. That analogy tells you it's not going to be easy. But as Jesus Himself said, if you believe, nothing is impossible. God Bless. 🙂
Can you believe in God & still be attracted to the homophobic lifestyle? Absolutely. Can you call yourself a homophobic Christian then? Absolutely not.
What a bizarre thing to say. It’s almost like saying adultery didn’t exist back then. Remember Sodom and G. They existed well before the testament age.
Christians can struggle with same sex attraction but not life this lifestyle. Salm Alberry has good material on this that is very empathetic with struggling believers yet firm on the truths of Gods word
Yes sir. I wish more people understood that Same-sex attraction is not a sin. It's not like people choose who they're attracted to. It's acting on those fleshy desires that are sin. But I wish there wasn't such a double standard. So many Christians today will feel they can condem others bet than fornicate without a care in the world. There is more heterosexual sin in the church than homosexual. That's just a fact.
You didn’t answer your own question though; can a Christian be gay? So if I am both, accepting Paul’s stance in the thing and all, and having lived in celibate my whole life (not without its temptations and sins though) - can I be a Christian if God doesn’t seem to liberate me from my wrongful attraction; can I still be a Christian? If not; what do I do? And if there’s nothing more to do and I’m going to hell anyway; why not just give up on faith and live promiscuously while I still can (that last one is more of a retorical question in my case)..?
There's nuisance to your question, which I like. However, I don't think you meant it, and your inquiry reflects the same one that's always asked. Not a bad thing at all, let it be clear! I'll answer the nuisance version first: if God does not liberate you, you still fight onward, denying yourself and withstanding any and all matters of temptations. A rare case, however, but could happen which is why I said I liked the question, though I don't think you meant it like this. Take for example the Apostle Paul, as it's written: "And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness ..." (2 Corinthians 12:7-9). This means that, despite having same-sex attraction festering inside, you do not claim them as your identity. You'd need spiritual matury and discernment for this, which is gained as you grow in your relationship with God.
The question that I think you're asking, which most gay people have, is that God simply does not make the change. Not in the same terms as with the Apsotle Paul - TOTALLY different and INCREDIBLY rare! Rather, there's a lack of belief that He can b/c they simple haven't witnessed it in their life. As stated, lack of faith. God does clean, liberate and transform. People simply choose to continue satisfying their lustful flame as opposed to present themselves before the Almighty to be cleaned. It's not always a one visit ordeal. The dirtier something is, the harder and longer you take to scrub the sludge off. Even so, God takes His time, so we're not suffering through the process. Spiritually discerned, and we're processed through fire - obviously not physical - in order to be sanctified and it hurts within. Faith sees it fulfilled, but a lot don't have it so are never freed. The Bible is specific that change is not just possible, but true and tangible. So, to directly answer your question: as with all manners of sins, you seek God, truly, and without stop. Not partially, but fervently. Prayer, reading the Bible, fasting and simply being in His Presence. Homosexuality is not an exclusive, difficult thing to escape from, just that most don't understand the how. The answer remains the same. It's difficult to understand it when the sin itself has deeply infected the soul and altered the mindset, heart and emotions. The truth remains the same, however. And God can liberate. God bless you! "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11). "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17).
Read Romans 1, the second part. Paul tells us basically that a person’s lack of understanding of God’s character and acceptance of His lordship further evolves into embracing lies and self deception about who He is until it outwardly manifests as a lifestyle completely destroyed by sexual perversion.
@@trevrockrock16 No romans 1 says God gave the heterosexuals who did same sex acts in idolotry over to a reprobate mind, stop adding to Gods word as satan is helping you to.
Adding calm music doesn't make this authoritative. Only Paul in the new testatement is critical of homosexuality (who was also critical of women and clearly considered them inferior - not a rational person to follow in such matters). The other references are all old testament and don't refer to homosexuality but effeminate male behaviour, male prostitution etc. Jesus did call out sin. He did not condemn the adulterous woman but told her to sin no more. By comparison when he heals the male lover of the roman centurion (yes the word greek work used was not pais which is the normal term for a servant, but doulos which was a servant that had a relationship with the his master) he made no reference to their relationship being sinful.
In the 1960s, Norman Mailer was howled down by feminists for saying, "a homosexual is a person who PRACTICES homosexuality." Although this was before the word "gay" took hold, the notion that homosexuality was a state of being, not a sexual predilection, was beginning to fester. But Norman, not a Godly man, was right. A homosexual is not what you ARE. It is not a state of being, as you might say of one's gender, race or nationality. If they admitted it was something they DO, something that enters via the heart, then, as with any sinner, they could turn from it. The word "gay" was coined as a deception, and it has entrapped a lot of homosexuals who actually want to turn away from it. Describing it more accurately will allow discussion, and the asking of the right questions. The use of the word "gay" has enabled people to claim they are "born that way". The use of "homosexual" allows us to discuss it as a preference, and to see the obvious truth that Satan doesn't want us to see: that one cannot be BORN with a sexual preference. Paul refers specifically to just about every kind of sinner when he says, "Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God". Paul is making the point that we are not only capable of any sin, but that we harbour them in our hearts. Thus, when he says, "such were some of you: but ye are washed", he says it's only Jesus who stands between us and the act. The only thing that stops us being any of those sinners he listed is that we no longer PRACTICE those sins. Homosexuality is NOT an inescapable state of being, as the word "gay" suggests. It is something that can be repented of, and when we repent, we resolve not to commit the sin again. That is, to PRACTICE the sin. Instead, we tackle it when it enters our heart. To battle against it in our hearts means we will not network our sin. If a man practices ANY sin six days a week, but refrains from it on church day, he is unrepentant, and a loving brother or sister might feel obliged to speak to him about it, not just for his own sake, but for the sake of that church, because sins can become contagious if they are seen to be condoned within its walls. Whether that sin is habitual murder, or ongoing adultery, one cannot enter the church with the intention of continuing to commit it. Yet the term "gay Christian" suggests a homosexual can do just that. Homosexuals are not exempt from the need to repent. Many of them only pretend they are. It's the very essence of repentance that many "gay" people deny, because they don't want to believe anything they do is a sin, as those murderers and adulterers would. They don't believe they should repent of something that is not wrong; that is merely what they ARE. That gives them a different status from that of their brethren, who are accountable to one-another and God. I do think preachers or anyone who cares can help their cause by refusing to even use the word "gay". A person who practices homosexuality, even when they go to church, needs help. But first, the problem needs accurate definition, otherwise the solution will miss the mark, and no-one is done any favours.
The Westboro Baptists would agree with you of course, and feel supported by you. Are you all Christians ? Does Jesus support Westboro? How does one get to be a "Pastor"? Who bestows that authority?
Something that I’ve heard in the lgtbq community is that Jesus died for our sins, so you can continue being gay. If you stop being gay, then Jesus died for nothing. Please note that this is a huge contradiction to the New Testament specially noted in Hebrew 10:26 In addition this is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. You’ve made Jesus death which is Gods will into the devil work. Please note that this is the one sin God does not forgive.
There's a ridiculous amount of confusion on this topic, but that's what occurs when you don't seek God. If you assume you can be gay and still be a Christian, you're only deceiving yourself. What's the point of that? Now, in His grace and mercy, you CAN be freed and cleaned, liberated, healed and transformed, but to sin no further nor to continue identifying with the sin. Made anew, your heart washed and your soul sanctified, your emotions corrected and your mind freed. Still, many do NOT want to change. That doesn't justify you, nor is it the truth. "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11). "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17).
@@ministermattocks7570 My points are on the reality of life, not your pretend world of backwards thinking, Minister of Lies. Why do you prefer the latter?
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:17 - 20
Here's another question you might want to consider, costi. Can a multi millionaire enter the Kingdom of Heaven ? Your son might get there but you may not, and be separated from him for eternity. It's perhaps a more germane question for you than obsessing about other people's(?) gayness.
Who do you think you are to know the mind of God? Your understanding of what scripture means about the issue forgets that such a concept was not yet developed.
This is what a follower of Christ is: Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 16:24-26
The stories you speak up in Genesis happen before the fall. And after the fall things changed. And those changes aren’t necessarily sinful or bad. When a man sweats from his brow and plows his field, that isn’t sinful. Even though that’s not how it was supposed to be. When a woman screams from childbirth, she’s not possessed by a demon. Even though that’s not how it was supposed to be when a lion kills it’s prey, or a child catches a cold, those aren’t sinful acts. Even though that’s not how it was supposed to be.
No, you cannot be a Christian and still claim to be gay. You might be struggling to be freed of it, but you no longer identify with it. As God works in you, if you seek Him, He'll be the One cleaning you. It won't work, for He never forces anyone, if you still cling and hold on to that identity. The like is if you remain celibate, but remain gay. Truly, what's the point of that? Truly. Though I understand where the idea comes from. However, fornication and homosexuality are two distinct things. Though they commonly overlap, stopping one while continuing the other does not justify your own self before the Lord. This only demonstrates your lack of faith in that God can completely and wholly clean you of ALL sins. I myself was gay, though this was well over ten years ago when God began to change me and completely free me. There's depth to this topic, in the spiritual sense, which people won't understand until you grow close to God. What I can say is that this sin is an infection of the soul. Nothing on this earth will heal you from it, except the outstretched hand of God. You want change? Truly? Beloved, the answer is extremely simple. Jesus Christ! What do I mean? As I said before, He liberates. Keep seeking Him, fervently, w/o stopping in prayer, reading His Word and fasting, going to Church, attending Bible Study and worship His name in your private quarters. Will He not see you and receive you? Have faith, He will. You are the one to make the first move and you're the one tasked to have faith to see it fulfilled. Note, faith also grows by physically listening to the Word of God (Romans 10:17). It's not an easy road, but it's possible. What is impossible to us, to Him it's incredibly easy. Homosexuality is not unforgivable, but you choose to repent. Likewise, do not be fooled to think it's acceptable before His eyes as it still is and always has been an abomination before Him (Leviticus 20:13). Yet, in His love, He receives us to sanctify us and clean us and once done say: go, and sin no more. As stated below, some of us WERE this, but no longer anymore! Glory to God! "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11). "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17).
@@ministermattocks7570 I'm a Christian, which is the realistic truth. Why do you pretend that I'm homophobic? B/c I speak of what is written in the Word of God? You greatly err.
@@Man.of.God30 You can NOT be both christian and homophobic, a man can not worship 2 gods....you have to pick sides....satan loves homophobia.....you cherry pick what the bible says which homophobics do so well....I am praying for you to repent and stop following satan. In Jesus name.
@@ministermattocks7570 The Book of Corinthians is in the NT, which is the topic at hand. Or, is the point of discussion also difficult for you to grasp?
Same Sex Attraction isn't a sin. Acting on it is. Can a sinner be Christian? Of course. Can a sinner remain saturated in sin with no desire to repent and sin no more and still be considered a Christian? I would argue that their faith then would be dead for there is no manifestation that the Spirit is in them. As Christians, we must cooperate with the Holy Spirit to grow in virtue. The Holy Spirit would never lead us into acting out on same sex attraction under any circumstance. It would lead us only away from that. If we move towards acting on same sex attraction, we are moving towards sin and away from God.
@@ministermattocks7570 I'm not 'afraid' of gays so I'm not homophobic. I detest sin as all Christians are called to do. I work with the Spirit to not sin and to grow in virtue and sanctity. I resist temptations, not give into them. I am called to change myself into Christ, not to distort Christ to fit my preexisting ways and lifestyle. Get a grip.
Your answer confuses the Good News of Christianity! There's a difference between saying homosexuality isn't a sin (when it clearly is) and being a Christian who still sins. When we put our faith in Jesus, we are made RIGHT - regardless of sin (past, present and future). Replace "gay" in the title with any other sin - if the answer isn't the same (aka, YES) then you're preaching a twisted version of Christianity that doesn't fully rely on the sacrifice of Jesus.
Short answer is yes. Just like a Christian can watch porn, commit adultary, steel, gossip, covit etc etc. Being a Christian isn't about being without sin!!! We're all sinners, no question! It's what we choose to do with that sin. Ask the spirit fir strength and wisdom, repent. Ask for Gods help in not committing said sins. Try & grow a relationship with the Lord worthy of heaven. Unattainable forsure on our own, that's why we need God and not self!! Blessings.
No, the Bible has been clear since the beginning: "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-10). "Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie." (Revelation 22:14-15). There's a difference between being perfect and sinless with fighting and struggling to be better, through Jesus Christ. If there's no will, want and desire to change, what justification does the porn-addict, adulterer, thief, gossiper and the covetous have? "Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance ..." (Luke 3:8). The grace of Jesus Christ is enough, for us to have the opportunity to change, not to remain as pigs in mud. To repent and THEN be forgiven. The same is of the homosexual. Which is why He, Himself, said upon forgiving the adulteress: “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.” (John 8:11). God bless you.
If you love the Lord with all your heart,all your mind,and all your soul,your going to do your best,with all the power the Lord gives you,to be obedient to him.How much do we love him.? is the question……
The answer is NO they are forbidden from His Kingdom, it is only open to those of us who are morally pure and cleaned by His blood. If I remember correctly, SSA is not a forgivable sin, so vigilant Christian men should watch what they think! He knows!
@N0NASH no, not if you asked for forgiveness. Repeatedly deliberately lying raises a question. Are you really Christian or just proclaiming to be without having a true relationship with Christ. Because if you did, you'd regret lying and repent. Deliberately continuing in sin and proclaiming Jesus as your Lord and Savior is hypocritical. Or it means you've got serious mental issues. Jesus slammed hypocrisy. Read your scripture, and you'll find out what I'm saying is true.
Can a Christian be a SINNER?! "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justified the UNGODLY, his faith is counted for righteousness" - Romans. Im not gay, but i am a sinner who is not close to sinless perfection. Thank youmLord for "GRACE that is greater than all Our sin" - Hymn
Sinful desires like lust need to be controlled, we all have it .And the same applies for homosexuality. The person cannot practice homosexuality or lust acts if they are christians. It's actually simple like that
There is much to suggest it. Domineering mother, absent father, no female friends, comfortable among working class men, rebel, free-thinker, liberal, good at whipping up a tasty buffet at short notice...
If you carefully examine Scripture on this topic, it states homosexual ACTS are sinful, not BEING homosexual. So yes, you can be a gay Christian but can't commit any homosexual acts.
Yet, if you read further and identify what it is, you'll come to realize that homosexuality is the total corruption of the human identity; thus, it's written: "Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." (Romans 1:24-32). So,it goes WAY further than simply being a sinful act. So, no, you cannot be gay and a Christian at the same time.
I don't agree with that lifestyle but also God created us all to love one another and not judge whatever a person wants to do to better there self with God is what's important
If you are asking about a lifestyle, the answer is NO! If you are referring to old desires, then I can only say that sinful desires will always remain. The difference is that my eyes were opened. I know that sex outside of marriage is sin. I deal with many believers that still wrestle with sexual sin. I try to encourage them to confess their sin to God, get up, and brush themselves off, then keep walking. Stay in the word and the word will come out of you. If any man says he does not sin, he is a liar. Confess your faults one to another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed.
True. It's really more of a political issue. 96.5% of us are straight. It's just human nature to try and say that what we want is agreeable with God. That really goes for all sin. Christianity is about overcoming.
So some people are just randomly chosen and forced to spend their lives fighting their own inherent identity and giving up basic human experiences like relationships, sex, a sense of belonging, the chance to not...ya know...live in agony... to get a ticket into heaven while others just have to fight the urge not to murder someone and they're good to go? Makes sense. Balanced.
Mmmkay, gay happens, but God gave each soul the worst sin to fight off.. Being gay happens, but fighting off the behavior and actions is the fight. People believe they were the strongest soul, so argument is they were plagued with gay. . If a gay exploits being gay, did the gay fail god, or did we?
As to Paul (who came much after Christ,) I find it queer none of the homophobic "Christians" suggest a video on TH-cam attacking those overweight, using 1 Corinthians 6:19-20. How do you suppose THEY would react to you telling them they "can't be Christian." Or how about a video on women who speak in church or enter without hair uncovered are "not Christian." hmmm None of the REAL apostles, who lived with Christ condemn homosexuality. Christ never "healed" one, or in any way addressed the topic. Are you arguing he just forgot? No one can tell us who is or is not Christian. Nor can you determine who is filled with God's Spirit. But there are some things we can say for certain. Christ's final command is a singular one. To love everyone God loves. To tell someone because of who they are they are not allowed to be a follower, is NOT an act of love, my friend. In fact, it is a sin of pride, suggesting you know better than God does. The same sin that befell the devil in paradise.
No one is telling anyone who is or isn’t a follower of Christ, the Bible is. “No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.” 1 John 3:9 ESV Jesus saved a prostitute from being stoned to death, and when He did He told her that she wasn’t condemned, but to go and sin no more. To repent. You can’t have the Jesus loves you part without the actual changing of heart and your lifestyle. Trust me, I’ve experienced this. You can’t have two masters. You’ll either hate one and love the other. It doesn’t mean I don’t sin ever again, but I’m convicted, I repent, and I get back on the path. You can’t live in sin and follow Christ, period.
Exactly. JESUS' reply to the religious leaders of HIS day about marriage is the answer. Indirect answer to gayism & lesbianism. Gayism & lesbianism are fruits of a debased mind. Not the way GOD created man & woman to be. Sin means to miss the mark. If a gay or lesbian turns to CHRIST then he or she will be set free from that lifestyle. But if a Christian turns to such lifestyle then he or she is deceived & captive of satan.
This is dumb... God loves all of his people and we all sin but god still loves us. God wants you to have a relationship with him meaning excepting his love no matter what your background is.
Is homosexual a sin in itself or the participation in gay sex a sin? To me it is the act that is sin. If a person that says they are homosexual but don't practice it cannot they be Christian.
Why would you identify yourself as something if you don’t practice it? I know a person who says he’s one but just doesn’t practice. If God truly delivered you then you don’t call yourself a homosexual anymore. That’s just like if God delivered you from being a thief, liar, drug addict, you wouldn’t continue to call yourself those things. As Paul says ,the old man, former man, I used to do this and that.
@@bbbvids22 you missed my point and it shows in your comment. I'm not homosexual, I'm a married man of 38 years. You assume alot and don't really comprehend what I was saying. Try again.
@@mikeellis2025 I never said you were homosexual. I was referring to your question about if a person is homosexual. It’s a response to a hypothetical question.
Jesus was gay. Are you telling me that he was in violation of his own laws??? John was the apostle whom he loved. Jesus was queer as they come and you have not a single shred of evidence to prove me wrong.
@@bobhubson8511 Your own perverted mind is proof and evidence of the falsehood you claim. "To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled. They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work." (Titus 1:15-16).
False, thus written: "You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons." (1 Corinthians 10:21). God, in His love, grace and mercy, liberates and sanctifies, so one can be freed of what was plagued us. His grace is not for us to continue in the same prison cell.
I have absolutely no idea how that one verse from the Bible pertains to being gay and a Christian, but, okay... Being gay isn't being in prison. It is just a morally neutral and unchangeable component of my personality. Anyway, your understanding of a single Bible verse does nothing to negate the fact that I am a follower of Jesus Christ and I also happen to be gay.@@Man.of.God30
@@ronaldthompson9294 Well, that's actually my complete, full point. With this single verse, I summarize the entire discussion, which your inability to understand confirms it as truth as it is further reflected in your adopted identity. You state to follow Christ, but identify with the antichrist (Daniel 11:37)? Hence, the verse shared above. Do you assume that cancer is part of the personality of a cancer patient? Or, since you discern not the spiritual, is someone who likes the color blue over pink, seafood over vegan food, part of their personality? Truly, someone's personality is the color blue and seafood? Comical, but such is the same nonsense of homosexuality and your belief on it. No, you cannot be gay and a Christian. Where's your faith that God can heal? My knowledge of Scripture has no relation to the falsehood you live - I'm merely sharing the gospel. Why do you believe that God cannot change the "impossible," as you coin? Where's your faith? "But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." (Hebrews 11:6).
@@Man.of.God30 Your first paragraph is a bit like being on a merry-go-round. I kept hopping back on to see if it would do anything else but get me dizzy. WHAT? How does my inability to understand how a decontextualized biblical verse, you randomly posted in reference to something the verse does not actually reference, somehow prove whatever point you were unable to clearly make before? Yes, sexual orientation and gender orientation do affect personality. Obviously. If I were a gay man, my personality would be different in significant ways than if I were to suddenly become straight. Again, obviously. The rest are just false comparisons you make and they're just in no way compelling. Obviously some characteristics of humanity affect personality less profoundly than others. Being gay in a world and being in a religion that hates you affects my personality deeply. And I do have faith in God. I have been an ardent follower, lover, friend of Jesus since I was a kid. I know from my many experiences with his love that I am accepted in Him, as an intended, God-created gay man. You will have to do better than decontextualized bible verses without explanation thrown at me to convince me otherwise. I am a child of God.
@@ronaldthompson9294 I mean no offense, but it's like I'm talking to a brick wall with you, which should NOT be the case with someone who claims to be a "child of God." How is it that you do not understand? The merry go round which you're on is a direct consequence of your inability to advance and understand deeper. I'm extremely conscious of the way I worded it to you, which AGAIN you confirm as truth. How does this not process in your mind? That's b/c you cannot spiritually discern, which is part of the consequence of the homosexual identity, as it's written: "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;" (Romans 1:28). Regarding the personality discussion, you need to pick up a psychology book. It's concerning for you to believe what you believe on that subject. I've already noted previously that the antichrist is the spirit of homosexuality, as the Bible explains (Daniel 11:37), for the enemy stands against EVERYTHING that is of God, including His design for humanity. Thus, I began with a simple statement to correct your false claim and shared the precise verse that summarizes in full: to not sit with demons and the Lord, too. Hypocrisy. In your case, blindly so, though not an excuse or justification. So, I ask: why do you state to be friends with Jesus when identifying with the enemy? Has it not been preached continously: be holy in body, mind and spirit (1 Peter 1:13-16)? God never created homosexuality; from where do you assume that conclusion? On the contrary, prior to the Messiah, in His Law, gays were stoned to death, for it is an abomination before His eyes (Leviticus 20:13). He ordered the total destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19:1-29). Likewise, He nearly wiped out one of the twelve tribes of His chosen people, Israel, for having succumb to that sin - the tribe of Benjamin (Judges 19:1-30, 20:1-48). So, if it were true that He made gays, why would He create do destroy? Would He give life to condemn? Additionally, would He form against His own design? Furthermore, why would the one who goes against God, take this form as he identifies with everything NOT of God (Daniel 11:30)? If you are a child of God, you're not just drowning, you're suffocating. I've chatted with atheist homosexuals with more clarity. How so? Since you have hope, as a child of God, the devil will ensnare you deeper, so you can never see or even understand the prison that you're in. Those who don't believe in God, don't have a key to escape. However, if it's true that you have Jesus Christ in your life, you have the key, but will never use it as is. Sir, that doesn't save you. God has made it clear that homosexuals do NOT enter Heaven (1 Corinthians 6:9-10). Thus, it's also written: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. ..." (Hosea 4:6). How can you say you have faith and have ardently followed Christ, while still imprisoned in sin? That is not something to boast about. Still, you want me to try harder to convince you? How's that my issue? Free will. Still, b/c I am a Christian, whom was actually once a homosexual, I do sympathize and understand your condition, fully. And, in His love and grace, I shared the above, so you can read. He is love, I'm merely one of His many children. Thus, because He is love (1 John 4:7-8), homosexuality is NOT of His. Quit clinging to the enemy and expect salvation, stop courting death and believing your inheritance is life. That belief is called confusion, and it's ridiculous for you to have it and still claim to be a "child of God." I hope that gives you some much needed insight, but I know not everyone is willing to face the truth and proceed to truly come into the light and present themselves to the Almighty (John 3:19-20). Stop living an illusion, read the His Word, the Bible. God bless you.
A gay Christian shouldn’t just say that Jesus didn’t speak about homosexuality. A gay Christian also needs to say, Jesus is above the law. We saw this clearly when the Pharisee came to Him about His disciples not eating with clean hands. A gay Christian should say “Jesus’s grace is sufficient and he fulfilled the law and we are not bounded by the old law of Leviticus”. A gay Christian should say only Paul bashes gay individuals in the New Testament and says no gay man will be ushered into the kingdom, making the sacrifice of Jesus to no affect. A gay Christian should say “whom the son of man has set free, is free indeed!”. A gay Christian should say “it doesn’t matter if you believe what I am doing in my lane is wrong or not. You’re not the judge of all and do not hold the keys to heaven or hell”. A gay Christian should say “I believe in Jesus and I believe He will never forsake me more leave me and I don’t need your approval. Stop preaching false teaching. Jesus has more for the gay community than modern Pharisees would have us to believe. Let every man be a liar and let God be true. We are free indeed and I’ll not go back to my bondage of thinking otherwise.
@Quint-ib4nf Friend don’t be a fool. If you love yourself then you would love GOD! If you want the best for yourself then you would get to know Him. GOD is right and just in whatever He does. Again if you really love yourself and want the best for yourself then you should love him and respect him!
@Quint-ib4nf Friend GOD is against all sin. I was a fornicator, a pot smoker, a drunkard , I lacked self control at times and etc. and GOD is against all that. And I had to repent of it. To change my mind on how I was living my life. And GOD is right to command me to change. Because I was wrong.
@Quint-ib4nf GOD created sex but its only between a man and woman in the confines of a marriage. You need to read GOD’S word (the Bible) to understand who He really is and what He asks of you.
The short answer is No but here's some detail. 1 Corinthians 6:9 (ESV) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
Great answer, people know the things that are sin, the problem is the devil and the Flesh has people believing you do not need the Holy Ghost and not to believe in the Super natural, the Holy Ghost give you power to over come sin this is how you stay from this type of sin, everybody struggles with something and fornication is no different
My sister said to me "you've already had sex before marriage, so why do you have to wait now?" And I said because I've been BORN AGAIN. God cleansed me of my sins and now I don't want to break His commands. Thank the Lord he gave me another chance to start over with this new wisdom!!
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Lol. I guess I'll live my life and become a Christian in my deathbed😊
@@Negev-Israel that's a testament to the mercy and grace of the Lord Jesus!
@Negev-Israel, what gives you the assurance that you will have time to become a Christian before dying? You might die in a car crash or any other type of accident, or heart attack. Please humble yourself before God before it's too late. We only have one life, so please don't mess it up by remaining an enemy of God. God changes hearts and makes people brand-new creatures. It could be you. Don't harden your heart.
@@deogracetchapda2726 I agree with you, but I think the person was joking. Not saying that it's a laughing matter.
As a former bisexual (amongst other things) who is now a spirit filled, Bible believing, follower of Jesus the answer is definitely no. To quote a well known show... " I was one way, but now I am completely different, and the thing that happened in-between was Him."
You should post a testimony video one day and reach others. There are people who you could help by sharing your experience.
I agree with the above comment! I too and a former bisexual person who through the Bible and Christ am no longer in that direction
But I have a lot of trouble and difficulty explaining to my friends why it's more important to me to deny my so called sexuality for the Word
Could you please share your testimony?
Ty guys for the encouragement. I copied my testimony from a pinned post on my Facebook page, so here it is :)....
Testimony time!.... If you know me you know I am a follower of Jesus, BUT obviously that wasn't always the case. When I was a child my parents occasionally took me to church and did their best to instill Christian values in me, my maternal grandma also took me to church often and told me about Jesus, and whether or not she knew it at the time she planted spiritual seeds that would ultimately lead me to the truth one day. I'd be lying if I said life wasn't difficult for me at times when I was a child because you see I was born with a disability called Spina Bifida, a birth defect that occurs in about 1 out of every 2,875 births in the US. This particular birth defect left me paralyzed and in need of a wheelchair for the rest of my life, which admittedly made that life difficult for me to navigate at times, but praise the living God for the parents and siblings He gave me for always advocating for me and raising me in such a way that I was given every opportunity possible that a "normal" kid would get AND for never allowing me to use my disability as an excuse not to try. Despite some difficulties my childhood was pretty happy, but later in life as I began to enter my teens hormones set in and with that things got more mentally and emotionally complicated for me. At about age 12 or 13 I discovered and became addicted to porn, an addiction that would follow me well into my marriage until only a few short years ago. To add to that when I was well into my senior year of highschool I REALLY started to struggle mentally and emotionally with being bisexual, being overwhelmingly depressed at times to the point of wanting to take my own life, and being so angry at times that I struggled with thoughts of murder. My mind was a VERY dark and depressing place back then and it's only by the will and grace of the living God that I'm here now a brand new creation in Christ. It also didn't help that back then the only Christians I encountered were Bethelites or other Pentecostal types that were hyper-fixated on the supernatural and always attempting to invite me to miracle conventions of sorts or church services where I could get prayed up and God could "fix"me. I am heartbroken to say that not a single one of them shared the biblical gospel with me, instead they put God in a box and tried desperately to convince me that God's ultimate plan for my life was for him to heal my disability. No one shared with me the fact that in God's kingdom and in God's eyes I had equal value to others and that He loved me unconditionally whether I walked or not, instead I was made to feel like God's kingdom was a place only meant for perfectly whole, pristine, healthy, people and that God could never love me in my current state. My best friend and brother John Brown was the only one out of people like that who showed me Christ's love through his unwavering and non judgemental loyalty and friendship, which also planted a spiritual seed in my life. Yes he also wanted me to come to his church because he wanted to see God heal me so I could walk, but his intentions were pure and he never made me feel like I was broken. Anyway in 2005, two years after I graduated highschool I got to my lowest point ever… I was crying all the time when I was alone, I stayed up all night and slept most of the day away, and I don't recall eating much at all. I was so depressed back then that I was just emotionally numb and physically cold all the time. Honestly I just got to a point where no matter how hard I tried I couldn't see the light at the end of the tunnel. And so I purposed in my heart that if something didn't change or someone or something didn't intervene in about a month or so I was going to end it all. Truth be told the only thing stopping me from ending it was the thought of what my killing myself would do to my family, that and I also started having what I can I only describe as this nudge at the very core of my being that basically told me if I killed myself there would be no going back and I KNEW that if I went through with it I would irrevocably end up in Hell. So one late night while laying in my bed sobbing and still not wanting to live, but also not wanting to end up in Hell for eternity, I did the craziest and most desperate thing I could think of.... I prayed for help. I didn't know if God was real or even listening, and I didn't expect an answer, but I had to do something. I don't remember what I said exactly but it was something along the lines of "God I don't know if you're out there or can hear me, but please help me." The second those words left my lips the change I felt was immediate. It was as if some unknown powerful presence just showed up and drove the pain, depression, sexual confusion, murderous anger, all out of my body. That same presence then took the place of all of the emotional garbage that it had just purged me of and came to reside in me forever. My depression was now replaced with indescribable joy, my confusion was now replaced with unbreakable certainty, and my murderous anger was now replaced with a peace that surpasses all human understanding; In short I now had the spirit of the living God residing in me and guiding me. To say I was shocked at what just happened is an understatement, and my immediate reaction was to shoot up out of my bed and say out loud "He's real?!?!?" I tell you after the Lord saved my life that night and I passed from death to life EVERYTHING was different. The world was completely new to me as if I was a newborn baby seeing it for the very first time, heck! even food tasted better. Can you imagine what that is like? Do you want to? Did my testimony somehow relate to or resonate with what you are currently going through in your own life and you want to know the same amazing freedom that I do now? Because you absolutely can if you are sincere in that desire. See you and I are born with this spiritual infection of sorts called sin, which basically means we have this stain on our souls that causes us to be separated from God and always miss the mark with Him and fall short of his impossibly high standards of perfection. Furthermore the physical and eternal consequences of not living up to God's impossibly high standard of perfection is eternal separation from Him, and to be completely cut off from Him is to be completely cut off from the literal source of love, joy, peace, and every other good and beautiful thing in all of creation. It doesn't matter how nice of a person you or I may be, or how loving and compassionate or helpful you and I are to people, we still lie, hate, lust, steal, and do numerous things that cause us to widen the rift and continue fall short of God's standard of perfection (Romans 3:23.) Only one person in the history of the universe has ever completely lived up to God's impossible standard..... God Almighty Himself. Instead of sitting on the sidelines and allowing you and I to be eternally separated from God by our own choices He took it upon Himself to clean up our mess. 2000 years ago God took human form in the person of Jesus Christ and He lived a perfect and blameless life, even going so far as to experience everything we would in this life (sorrow, temptation, rejection, etc.) More than that Jesus willingly took the eternal punishment for your sins and mine upon himself to pay the heavy price for our mistakes so we could all have reconciliation with God through Him for all eternity. Jesus was brutally tortured and murdered unjustly on your behalf and mine, but then rose again 3 days after He died (proving His identity as God) just so he wouldn't have to spend eternity without you, His child because He loves you with a love that will never waiver. Whoever you are whatever you've done it is vital that you understand that God purposely limited Himself by giving you free will, and according to His own honorable nature He won't force you into His presence against your will, it HAS to be your choice. No matter what you've done or how far you've fallen you are NOT beyond His redemption, If however you continue to choose to live this life separated from God then He will honor that decision in eternity. Now you may be asking "why should I take God at His word or believe anything at all in the Bible is true? Well looking at the Bible there are 73 books that were written over the course of 1500 years on three different continents by over 40 different authors, some of which were from different generations and didn't have any contact whatsoever; And yet these authors all came together to form this one congruent story. Jesus Himself has fulfilled over 300 old testament messianic prophecies and the probability of somebody fulfilling even just 8 messianic prophecies is 1 and 10 to the 17th power which is 1 with 17 0s behind it. If you were to drop that many coins into the state of Texas it would fill it two feet deep. 48 prophecies is 1 and 10 to the 157th power. So if you lined up electrons it would take you 19,000,000 years to count all of those electrons. This is all to say that it is humanly impossible as well as statistically impossible for anybody to fulfill these prophecies, yet Jesus did. You can trust Him. You can take Him at his word. He's standing at the door of your heart knocking.... Will you answer?
Youre Blessed!
ex LGBT don't exist old bean, telling lies is a sin
So he doesn't answer the question. What about lust,gluttony, greed,laziness, wrath, envy, pride, drunkenness, strife, heresies... Christ came to forgive and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. As Jesus told the adulterous woman, repent go and sin no more. There's your answer.
Amen, this ☝️
if only homophobics would go sin no more
homophobics cherry pick what to believe
BUT homophobics won't go and sin no more. But sin some more.
@@oztheberean amen homophobia is a sin?
Using the reasoning of "the Bible does t say" is a weak stance to take. God doesn't owe any human explanations for everything. More importantly, you are correct sir. Jesus didn't have to say that. There are countless things the Bible doesn't have to say. Amen brother!
But then we can make any sin up then after all, God doesn't owe us any human explanation.
@@ministermattocks7570the fundamentals are laid out pretty good we just need to think about it
Romans 1 is very clear on this specifically
@@wildcaveman5310 Not for u its not! Romans 1 is paul having a go at the heterosexuals he knew who used same sex acts in idolotry cults, so it says NOTHING on LGBT people at all.
@@ministermattocks7570the Bible says nothing about lgbt because there is only male and female according to the bible. And yes, Romans 1 is very clear
A christian is not defined as someone who believes that the Bible is inerrant or lacks internal contradictions. A christian is one who believes in the person of Jesus and follows Him to the best of their ability, knowing that no christian follows Him perfectly. So, yeah. "He who is not against [Him] is for Him"
Being any type of "_____ Christian" says that your identity does not lie in Christ, but in the type of Christian you claim to be.
I'm an American Christian. It's just an identifier for the purpose of clarity in dialogue.It's not necessarily an indication someone does not primarily find their identity in Christ. I haven't stopped being an American since I became a Christian.
Why do you have to identify that way though .. we should all just be brothers and sisters in Christ. What makes being an American Christian any different to being say a Canadian Christian? Or Australian .. or Chinese Christian?
@@andrewholliday2530 People don't usually deny that someone is Christian because they happen to be an American. If most Christians started to teach that being an American automatically excluded them from Christianity, then, as a pushback, American Christians might choose to start identifying as such. That's basically what I'm doing. I'm pushing back against the false narrative that LGBTQ people cannot be Christian by openly identifying myself as such.
@@andrewholliday2530 One does not need to justify one's Christianity because they are an American. If most Christians started claiming one could not be both an American and a Christian, then American Christians might start pushing back against that by identifying as such. That is all I am doing when I identify as a gay Christian. I am pushing back against the false narrative that LGBTQ people cannot be or are not, even though many of us claim to be, Christian
But why did paul write letters to Romans or corinthians? It is to differentiate the way you talk about group of christians
Those who follow the Lord Jesus face all manner of attractions and temptations to things in this world. By the Spirit's help, they can be laid to rest.
But there is only one identity that matters: In Christ. All the rest of this world's identities will soon pass away.
Amen
What about sexual attraction to one's husband or wife ? Is that a temptation to overcome ?
@@fido652 Is it selfish as though one were using the other person purely to satisfy one's appetites? Is it a manufactured fantasy that one controls and which increases those selfish appetites?
Or is it deep love and attachment to a real person to whom one is committed for life?
Motivations and practices matter. Out of the purity of one's heart comes pure thoughts and actions.
@@stephenbailey9969Not sure if you are referring to gay relationships or straight ones. If you are anti love you are just a bigot hiding behind religion.
@@fido652 nopee
Jesus didn't say anything about pedophilia (now called "minor attracted persons"), beastiality (now called "zoophilia"), or multiple/multual sex partners ("polyamorism"), either.
Edited to add regarding the three listed above:
- There are factions of academia and psychiatry who are already pushing the idea that an attraction to children is a sexual orientation, which the person "unfortunately, cannot act upon." They always start by trying to build sympathy. Some are also making a case that some minors could want and welcome early sexual relationships with a "trusted" adult.
-There have been demonstrations in Europe by men standing with their dogs by their sides, declaring their love and sexual affinity for their pets. The demonstrations were protected by police.
-There are already churches where the congregants are tearfully told that "God loves and honors your polyamorous relationships."
Will the day come when anyone who doesn’t affirm those practices will be called a bigot?
Yes. Jesus did.
He reminded them that relationships for sex is to be in marriage between a man and a woman.
I'm pretty sure you missed my point entirely. I agree with you. My comment was extending the claim of the "Jesus never said" crowd into its logical and discomforting progression. Once one steps out of the order ordained by God, anything goes.
He did so.....he said as a law to love ur neighbour, is child abuse love to you then?????????
@@fancimcguffin2227 But Jesus is also God and God also said marriage is 1 man and many wives which shows marriage doesn't have 1 definition
No, you cannot, and Jesus spoke of sexual immorality, which includes homosexuality. In 2008, I was a gay-identified man, in a committed, monogamous same-sex relationship, active in an affirming church, where we called ourselves gay Christians. Then I found myself in an ICU where the medical team classified me clinically dead after a 22-minute flatline. I experienced death, judgement and hell. When I couldn’t take any more demonic torment, I cried out in repentance, “Jesus!” and I heard the Savior say, “I am here.” At that moment, I saw with my eyes the Wind of the Holy Spirit fill my ICU and with great power, He pick up Satan and the demonic and blew them out of the room. On that day, my life changed, the redemptive Blood of Jesus cleared my mind of perversion and completely healed and restored every failing organ. Glory to God!
This is a wonderful story. I hope you share this with as many people as you can especially the younger generation. God bless you ❤
@Quint-ib4nf same-sex sexual relationships are immoral according to Jesus. Mark 7
That's one way to break up.
Was gonna say. Sounds like he broke up with you.
Glorious event. Thank you for sharing.
To answer the video since Costi didn't give a direct answer to the title:
Can a Christian be gay? No.
There is no such thing as a gay Christian. To proclaim that you profess Christ, yet violate the clear teachings of scripture regarding this depraviltiy you in fact are not repentant and therefore unregenerate.
That is not to say someone who practices gay activities cannot become a Christian. But, in order to have assurance of that saving faith repentance and abandonment of homosexuality is required.
How about all those sins you haven’t stopped or repented of? Christ alone is our salvation. Walk in the spirit, not the flesh.
I agree you can't be a Christian and homosexual, but you can't be a Christian and a liar, and a swindler, and a fornicator, and whatsoever sin that separates us from God
The "such were some of you" that Paul emphatically speaks of is not based on works but the imputed righteousness of Christ in these bodies of death!
Sin is still crouching at the door and at times we will sin BUT that's why confession is part of the commandments that Jesus has left us!
The old is gone the new has come but not in our own efforts!
@@theouterplanet repentance is daily and sanctification is a lifelong processes. But it means you are in the process. No one can have Christ and their chosen sin simultaneously.
Fully acknowledging Christ is the author of my salvation alone is true, but that also does not excuse abusing the grace of God by continuing in a known sin.
theres no such thing as a homophobic christian as u just now proved
@@WarriorForJesus1237 yes u can be an LGBT Christian, don't lie to make satan happy
Love doesn’t mean, do whatever you feel like doing….God is love, but he’s also holy and just. When we raise a child, we don’t just let them do whatever they want, because some things are harmful…we protect them because we love them…there’s a difference…
As a guy with same sex attraction living in a liberal area, I was encouraged to live the gay life. It’s a very depressing life filled with promiscuity, STDs, drugs, porn. I can’t believe how hard gays fought for marriage just to have open relationships (adultery).
So glad I found Jesus. Nothing will every make me go back to that life again.
God bless you! The gay promotion is part of bigger, malignant agenda with the sole purpose of creating a wedge between God and humanity. There's no actual truth to any of the promises they boasts of joy, love and peace. On the contrary, that all comes from God.
Keep seeking God, through Jesus Christ, in fervent truth - He liberates and cleans us, for His purpose for us is good. He seeks a Church w/o spot, crease or blemish (Ephesians5:27); thus, He is the One who sanctifes us. We just have to seek Him, truly, and remain holding on to His promises. We were once drowning in sin, but no more. We were once one thing, but no more. For some WERE us, but no longer, as written below:
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17).
"For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope." (Jeremiah 29:11).
Heterosexuality can also be filled with promiscuity, STDs, drugs, porn. So is heterosexuality wrong?
How is someone "encouraged" to be gay? You either are or you are not.
@ more of being encouraged to not remain celibate and life the gay lifestyle.
Sound and full of clarity preached in love. Thank you Pastor!
u like fibs?
There’s a reason this video is only 2 minutes long. It doesn’t need to be any longer. The answer is so obvious and clear to anyone with even the most basic knowledge of God and His Word. Thanks Costi! 🙏
As Christians, we must follow the Bible. However I invite y'all to research the historical context for this verse.
God Bless 🙏🏻
Curious non-believer here, with an honest question: what is it that's actually wrong with homosexual activity?
Some feel it violates the natural norm (but so do dozens of animal species) and others simply are disgusted by the idea. I find that it is much more important to focus on the sins that actually hurt people.
Homosexuality is the full corruption of the human identity; so, to directly answer your question: everything is wrong. Thus, it's written:
"For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." (Romans 1:26-32).
@@joepugh678 Thanks! I can see why that'd be your inclination. What would you say to Christians who told you that, as for hurting people, homosexuality is a sin that hurts God, the most important person?
You are angel that left heaven to fornicate.
Are angels male or female? No.
So how do they fornicate? By occupying an idol called a human host body.
Thus, heterosexuality is a sin too.
One Gospel:
Gospel (GOOD ANGEL) of Reconciliation.
Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom
to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself.
We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness.
If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever.
Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods).
REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.
"Apostle to the homosexual and the transsexual": th-cam.com/video/oMCcMX-rApM/w-d-xo.html
Can a Christian Be Gay?
answer: NO
Correct. You can be a Christian that has same sex attractions, but once people make their identity based on their sexuality, they're basically saying they know better than God and I find it hard to reconcile their faith. I'm sure some people are tricked into speaking that way but actually are Christian, yet there's a difference between embracing the identity and recognizing the sin.
@@teeemm9456 no.
@@teeemm9456that’s a no
@@VidmantasSwan Your great answer indicates that either you think Christians can be Gay or that Christians can't have sinful thoughts? Or maybe you didn't understand what I said long with your buddy below?
According to Dan Barker who says...
You can be LGBTQ and Christian.
And Harry Knox, a gay pastor has said the same thing.
Well said, Costi. Thank you.
badly said
If you can justify being gay after reading these 2 passages - then you’ll be ok …. But I doubt you can.
1 Corinthians 10:31
Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.
Colossians 3:17
And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.
There's no need to justify "being gay" any more than justify being short or tall. It can't be "cured" so either all of us are forbidden to love and be loved to not. Jesus cautioned against celibacy unless the individual were given such a gift. Matt 19; 11
@@joepugh678 Love is not lust, and homosexuality is not of God as it's an abomination before His eyes (Leviticus 20:13). Why would God order to stone gays, back then, if what they possessed was love?
Additionally, even if they do not engage in physical relationships, they'd still be charged with being gay or lust, as Jesus explained in regards to lust: “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matthew 5:27-28). And, being gay is the payment given to humanity when they distance themselves from God, self-corruption, as elaborated here: "Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, ... For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due." (Romans 1:24,26-27).
So, yes, people vainly attempt to justify themselves but all entirely wrong for God can and will liberate them and heal them of the perversion, if they choose to seek Him in fervent truth. Thus, it's written: "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
@@Man.of.God30 Thank you for taking so much time to write for my benefit. IF I wrote to you all I have learned form 40 years of living with this and praying and working and programs and marriage, I would have to write a whole book for your edification. God bless!
@@joepugh678 You're wholly mistaken. 40 years of being ensnared, deceived and spiritually blinded is not something to boast about.
If, after 40 years, you're still in the same condition, you're doing something wrong. By grace of the Lord, I was freed of it, so why are you still encaged? Those 40 years of "work," are not for the glory of God. On the contrary, it's been a wasted effort as you continue the toxic blinded deceit onto others.
"Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.” (Matthew 15:14).
@@Man.of.God30 I respect your sincerity and I will not judge you.
Jesus and the Father are one. If God said it, Jesus said it. Conversation over. “Before Abraham was, I AM. ~ Jesus
God said marriage was 1 man and many wives in the OT so did God lie?
@@ministermattocks7570 Huh? What? What has Polygyny have to do with the topic at hand? Yes, great men of God had many wives. He even told David if he wanted more he would have given him more. Not getting your comment…
@@ridingtheeventhorizon3315 Because people keep saying marriage is 1 man and 1 woman is why. Not what God alway said.
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@@ridingtheeventhorizon3315 have u repented yet old fruit?
quick version: No.
quicker answer homophobia is a sin
@@ministermattocks7570 It's not "homophobia", it's the same condemnation as any other sin. If it's wrong, it's wrong. Nice try manipulating though. "It's a sin to condemn a sin." It's not about hating or disliking the sinner, it's about pointing out right and wrong. Very simple.
@@josephl6289 No stop finding ways to excuse ur sin, it is homophobia and homophobia is a sin. I get u have a need to manipulate Gods word so your homophobic lifestyle looks ok. I am just helping you to repent and stop following satan as ur false god....BLESSINGS
quickER version YES
@@josephl6289 NO IT IS HOMOPHOBIA
Can a christian struggle with a ungoing sin?
We all sin practically everyday I.e the average human mind processes approx 60 000 thoughts. How many of those thoughts were sinful, can we keep a realistic tally? I think there are specific sins which the bible specifically tells us to avoid at all costs, top of the list being sexual sins. A Christian can’t live in a perpetual state of ongoing sexual sin, from porn addiction to adultery etc.
Of course. But you are not a follower of God if you aren't trying to change your ways.
@@trevrockrock16 so, how much can we fight sin? How can we meassure our effort? And how can it be that we are secure/sure of our salvation?
My works will NEVER be enough...
@@resistingRage so homophobics do not follow god, knew it
This one-time identifying asexual has been saved and had my eyes opened. The devil took my God-given desire for purity and a fear of men and told me that I was made different and that I needed to find a home and welcome in the world as part of the LGBTQIA+, even though I would have nearly nothing in common with these people. God makes some people less susceptible to some desires. They can use this for the kingdom of God. And I have intense anxiety empathy for people who run to gather together and rewrite the rules to make themselves feel better- Lord, please deliver these people from the deception and turn them toward yourself in Jesus like you turned me. Amen.
Yes, Lord, Amen.
homophobics have nothing in common with any christians either
its the homophobic community that needs to repent
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Romans 12:2
homophobia like all bigotry is of the world.....aso why do homophobics wanna be of the world?
Amen. Just wanted to expound on this.
Against people who make such claims I would say:
The whole Bible is God’s word, not just the words of Jesus. All scripture is God breathed. The spirit that Jesus spoke by was the same spirit by which the prophets and apostles spoke from long ago, the Spirit of God. Jesus is the same God as the God in the Old Testament. Jesus also spoke against fornication/sexual immorality in Matthew 15:19 which that word in Greek defines it accordingly to God’s laws in the Old Testament surrounding sex. This includes adultery, bestiality, homosexuality & lesbianism. Paul also speaks against such sexually illicit acts in 1 Corinthians 6:9 (fornicators), 1 Timothy 1:10 (sodomites), Roman’s 1:26-27 (homosexuals). Jude also speaks about God’s judgment against those who go after strange flesh (unauthorized, foreign sexual conduct).
We should not affirm or justify homosexuality and no regenerate Christian makes practice or delights in such acts like an unbeliever but if a believer is struggling with that rather than condemn them, like Paul we should encourage and exhort them that their bodies matter to God, they belong to Him, that we should glorify Him while in this flesh and can do so by relying on His power.
Praise the Lord
yes and the whole bible condemns the homophobic lifestye
@@ministermattocks7570 yeah I know I was just highlighting specific scriptures (and in the New Testament because unbelievers tend to only consider that and not the old ) of commands and principles for conciseness
@@trevrockrock16 Its true.
@@nigelreid186 It makes u wonder if any homophobic has ever read a bible.
@@trevrockrock16 Yes Paul did not agree with the homophobic lifestyle as God didn't.....so no he did NOT affirm the homophobic lifestyle choice that you made.....no exceptions.
Another argument is that Jesus is God, the Father is God, and the Spirit is also God. The God of the Old Testament is not in "ideology" separate from Jesus and condemned homosexuality as capital punishment, and all the words written by Paul in the New Testament are inspired by the Spirit. Therefore, either Jesus is at odds with the two other persons of the Trinity (which essentially means our God is not real), or He is not. If there are any doubts, the latter is correct.
the best argument is homophobia is a sin
God also said the old law is dead
@@ministermattocks7570 Jesus came to fulfill the law of the old testiment. The law is still valid thru the new covenant.
Can a Christian be fat? Gluttony is a sin.
Right, that is correct. But, so is homosexuality, and you cannot justify your sins in contrast to someone else's sins.
God cleans and frees both the glutton and homosexual of their lifestyle and perverted identity.
@@Man.of.God30 Who is justifying any sins here? It is a question. Evangelicals/ Pentecostals / Fundamentalists have a warped idea of what it is to be a Christian. The historic churches have always understood that a Christian is someone who has been baptized into Christ. There are sheep and goats, wheat and tares among the body of Christ. Salvation is not to be taken for granted. It is a process that we are to work out with "fear and trembling". God sanctifies, over time, those who choose to follow him. (Those who "Believe and are baptized" as Jesus said in Mark 16:16.) (We do not save ourselves by simply saying a made-up prayer that is nowhere to be found in Scripture). Not everyone who says "Lord, Lord" will be saved. Those who are goats among the sheep, and tares among wheat, will be destroyed, just as Jesus says.
@@twfourofsix "You," as in anyone - generic term.
It's true what you write, as well, for Jesus Christ Himself said: "Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me." (John 14:23-24).
Yet, there's a difference between someone struggling through sin in contrast with someone identifying with it. For its stated: "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17). So, not everyone who simply states 'Lord, Lord' is true, bur rather he/she who demonstrates their fervent, true faith in action and manner of living; thus, the Apostle Paul explained: "But you have not so learned Christ, if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness." (Ephesians 4:20-24). That's how one can differentiate between the true or false, sheep or goat, wheat or tares.
Then, given the topic of the video, can a Christian be gay?
@@Man.of.God30Jesus could have been a fatty.
@@fido652 You have no substance to comment, so you speak nonsense. Why?
In Roman-occupied Israel, which was heavily taxed, people were forced into servitude and made slaves; thus, had no easy access to basic necessities such as food. How, then, could they become fat?
In any event, Jesus Christ could only serve as the sacrificial lamb if He was holy, which He was. Meaning, He couldn't have been a glutton.
Even if you don't believe in God, it'd be beneficial for you to know some basic history, geography and sociology to help you understand that it was next to impossible for a Hebrew to be fat in that era.
Thank you, Costi.
for helping satan?
I am gay, I used to watch gay porn, lust over and have sex with men.
I am trying to avoid these things now for a couple of months, and God has been very helpful. But I can still feel the struggle and I am still attracted to the same sex.
Is avoiding gay practices enough so an individual can't be labelled as homosexual (biblically)?
Or a person like me should expect to be totally healed and be transformed into a real man?
I need answers, please.
God bless you, the more you grow closer to God, the more you're cleaned of sin and what's been polluting you. "Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. ..." (James 4:8).
You'll come to discover as you're testifying that stopping from doing certain activities, does not change you inside. Don't quit in abstaining from all that you've already stopped doing - you won't become clean if you keep swimming in the mud. Know, however, that it is God that makes the change in us. He's the One the cleans, sanctifies and purifies from the inside out. So, once you're clean within, you'll stop having the want to pursue the outward activities. The outside reflects the inside. God cleans from within - the heart, mind, spirit and soul. That was the entire purpose of Jesus Christ; thus, we come to Church in search of Him, to be renewed. Reborn. As the last verse shared below, some WERE we, but we have been cleaned and transformed. God bless you, don't lose hope and keep the faith - it's not an easy road. After all, how to escape that which dictates the heart, governs the mind and alters the emotions? In Jesus Christ, you can.
"But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin." (1 John 1:7).
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new."
(2 Corinthians 5:17).
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
Got a question for you loving folks.
“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Anyone care to explain?
Sure, the bible was written by a bunch of close-minded homophobes 😊
Gino Jennings has explained that to gay pastor Harry Knox.
Harry Knox still didn't get it.
Yes I can explain. All of the fullness of the law was lived out by Jesus Christ, who took on the penalty for all of our sin, because otherwise we all would have received the due punishment for our sin, which was death. In the garden in Genesis, God told Adam and Eve that if they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they would die. God shows His mercy by not immediately killing them, but instead cursing them, which is called bearing their iniquity. God gives us the law to show the seriousness of sin and its punishment, yet at the same time He’s merciful and justifier of the law by His son Jesus Christ.
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I understood that.
Why do atheists and gays want to argue that.
@@RandomStuff-i4i because they are blind, just as we have been, trying to justify their sin instead of submitting themselves humbly to the Word of God. If you don’t believe the Bible is the inerrant, infallible Word of God, completely and utterly written by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, then there’s all kinds of room for justification of sin. Sola Scriptura, everything should be rooted in the Word of God and conformed to it and it can be trusted. The Word is Christ. The world tries to conform scripture to its values and perception, that’s why people argue that. They love the Jesus part, but not the actual repenting and changing and becoming like Him.
This is where theology gets deep and requires a mature mind to rightly divide the word of truth. The answer to the question is, "No, unrepentant homosexuals cannot be Christians." The word "unrepentant" is key here. Faith alone, not works, saves. But saving faith is evidenced by good works and a life of repentance. When Paul says that homosexuals and adulterers (and others) cannot enter the kingdom of heaven, there isn't a presumption of sinlessness. It's a presumption of a life of progressive sanctification. We will all sin post-conversion. Some of us will mess up badly. But a truly redeemed person will (eventually) repent, confess their sin, get back up, and do better tomorrow. Those who defiantly live in homosexuality and deny their sin, while attempting to affirm salvation, are who Paul is talking about. These people are not born again and will be shocked when they hear, "Depart from me. I never knew you!" If you have people in your life like this, warn them and pray God grants them repentance.
"faith alone, not works, saves. But...." You just perverted the gospel by adding to it.
@@JeremyThielman Not so fast, brother. Or haven't you read the innumerable conditional statements throughout the New Testament. The first few chapters of Hebrews alone are chock full of them. The genuine believer is secure in Christ and cannot lose their salvation. However, not every profession of faith is genuine. Christ himself said so. The "but" isn't conditioning eternal security. It's about whether or not one is genuinely saved to begin with. A professing believer who knowingly and defiantly lives a lifestyle that the Word condemns, and that person never repents, demonstrates a belief in vain. You neither earn nor keep salvation through good works. You prove you are redeemed to begin with. It is impossible to escape that truth, as it permeates the NT. The extreme, greasy grace notion that you can mechanically be in the club by checking boxes 1, 2, and 3, but never, ever demonstrate a life inclined toward Christ is a concept to be found nowhere in scripture.
The real answer is NO unrepentant homophobics cannot be Christians
@@gregmcray Congratulations you've only defined the argument between Calvinists and Armenians; two sides of the same false gospel coin. Calvin: No fruit thus you must have never been saved. That's your position. Armenian: You can lose you salvation. That's what you defended against. "You prove you are redeemed to begin with." No, Christ leaves the 99 and finds the 1 where he is sick, broken and full of sin to meet him where he is. "The extreme, greasy grace notion that you can mechanically be in the club by checking boxes 1, 2, and 3, but never, ever demonstrate a life inclined toward Christ is a concept to be found nowhere in scripture." Right, tell that to the scriptures about the paralyzed healed and went their way, the ten lepers who went their way no following as disciples. The man born blind who professed and was kicked out of the synagogue. Zachias whom all the people (like you) who say, 'But, Lord, he is a SINNER!' All 'professed' Christ and did not follow as disciples in their flesh. Guess their belief was enough just as scripture proclaims. Eph2:8-10, John3:16/6:28,29,40. Ro4:5.10:9,10. You know... all those greasy grace passages. I will agree that many will say, sure I believe in Jesus, but do not. They do it for cultural reasons, family or peer pressure. They certainly don't do it when christendom doesn't show them the need for Christ because of their condemnation of God's law. They pervert the gospel of grace (both Calvin and Armenian) with but's, and's and as you wrote "However".
@@JeremyThielman Weak argument, Jeremy. Equating spiritual redemption with recipients of Jesus's healing ministry is a bizarre way of making an argument. That doesn't even make sense.
Jesus also said we are all sinners. Why pick out one sin and elevate above all and claim those sinners are not welcome?
I've never seen a Church kick out a sinner for sinning; but, once received, it is to be cleansed and not to further sin. Huge distinction. On the contrary, I've witnessed many homosexuals leave the Church and depart of the faith, distancing their own selves from God.
"She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.”" (John 8:11).
@@Man.of.God30 Thats coz LGBT are encouraged to leave
@@Man.of.God30 I have. My mother was excommunicated for having an affair.
You should not be surprised when one leaves a church they are not welcome at. I left Mormonism to be welcomed at an Episcopal church.
@@RodGustavson There's a difference between the Church of Christ, founded in the principles and commandments of His love, than man made religious sects that go outside of what is written in the Bible for the purpose of subjugating people. In essence, modern day slavery. Even the Bible explains how coming to Christ is of our own choice and free will to elect.
People often don't seek God themselves to learn of the truth and then be able to discern which Church actually is a Church. If a homosexual is slammed the door in their face or accepted to remain in their sin, they're not right with God. If a Church accepts them to aid them in getting to close to God, so He cleans them reflects His love. Huge distinction.
@@Man.of.God30 you missed the meaning behind we are all sinners. It’s not because I’m gay and you’re who knows what. Sin has nothing to do with who you are.
Sin is separation from God.
“Can Christians be gay?” Depends on the definition of gay. If they are practicing homosexuals, then no. But if they are dealing with homosexual attraction, but not falling into temptation, then yes
Sorry boss The answer is yes & yes if you don’t, or can’t agree with that, you don’t understand Grace, being forgiven and saved not by lifestyle but by faith alone, again I am not endorsing the sin whatsoever but that’s what it means to be saved by grace ✝️✝️✝️
nO, THE REAL ANSWER IS CAN U BE HOMOPHOBIC AND CHRISTIAN....NO!
@@Ready2Fly2024God saves us but he calls us to follow him. You can't follow God and only follow part of his word.
Exactly. It's not the person, it's the act.
@@YD-pl5rn true, its not homophobia its the acts of homophobia.
Some days Im truly at a loss at living this life. According to the Bible, Im not allowed to act on my feelings, not allowed to be in a relationship, cant watch porn. So what then? Am I really just supposed to be celibate and alone for the next 30-40 years? Everyone around me gets to find someone, have families, but people like me just have to spend our lives Alone? Make this make sense.
Trust me I am currently struggling with this too. I've been slowly losing faith by listening to these people tell me that gays are "abominations". I never CHOSE to be this way. And like I hate when they tell me to "pray the gay away" because I tried and NEWSFLASH! It doesn't work. And the whole celibacy thing sucks too. We only ever get one chance at life and love is one of the greatest feelings in the world. So, it sucks to know that I'll live my life without feeling love just to feel love in the afterlife.
I will say this: I personally believe that God loves anyone, regardless if they're straight, gay, bisexual, etc. Everyone sins on the daily. And these people who want to tell you that you are an "abomination" are not true Christians, for if they truly followed the word of God, they would know "Judge not, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the same measure you use, it will be measured to you" (Matthew 7:1-2). I wouldn't really take these people too seriously. God's judgements matter, not theirs. Just focus on building a strong relationship with God, believe in Jesus, and be the best person you can be, and everything shall be alright in the end :)
You're mixing various things into one grave error. What makes you think your same-sex attraction are YOUR actual feelings? Just b/c your memory holds same-sex as the only thing you've known, it doesn't mean that's always been the case, nor does it confirm the current modern belief of being born this way. You've made a small reference to the Bible, but have you read on how certain things are to be discerned spiritually, by the Spirit? (1 Corinthians 2:14).
As an example, through psychology, we are able to identify the affects and influence that certain mental illnesses have on a person. People who suffer depression subsequently experience a change in likes and dislikes. That, in itself, does NOT constitute nor becomes their real, true identity. The like is of homosexuality. To call it a mental illness is incredibly superficial as the issue is not in the mind, though it does influence thoughts, but rather rooted in the soul. Hence, my mention of being discerned spiritually.
You dictate to yourself a hopeless situation with an absence of love and fulfillment that's associated in finding a partner and spouse. However, it's because of your lack of faith that you only see despair. Sure, you can watch porn and hook up with anyone - same sex or not - but that doesn't bring satisfaction in the heart. It only satisfies the carnel desires of the flesh at that particular moment. Not sure why you, or anyone, would consciously elect that lifestyle? To each their own.
God can liberate from homosexuality. Most often people only allow themselves to listen to the garbage lies of the world that say you cannot change and pair it with the personal feelings inside that suggest one was created gay. That makes ZERO sense. I was gay once and voiced it proudly and believed the same lie. Of course, I was unhappy; but, only gave the "Christian crazy-talk" a shot once I found myself with no future or hope. To my surprise, what the Bible says it's true. So, who says God cannot clean you, heal you or liberate you? You do. And that's the choice made, which is the simple doctrine of the Christian faith: an election. Not sure if you believe, or not, in God, but I hope what I shared simplifies it. Of course, there's more depth to it and the Bible explains it in full. There's hope, and God is real. Your decision is what dictates what your outcome will be. Not by force, but by free election: of faith, or a lack thereof. God bless you!
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
They are not a community.
So, this is a common error for people who don't understand the original languages in the Scriptures.
its a common error for uneducated homophobics
the error is homophobia is the sin ......NOT being LGBT
I am gay & Christian 🙏
Repent and Go and Sin No More.
I’m a vegetarian but I eat meat….
@@Gooner-1971 I have a personal relationship with God had have since I was a kid being bullied in school 🙏🏳️🌈
@@isobutylquinoline O.K.Self righteous one 🙏
@@donaldewert2332 Not my words and not my rules buddy boy.
And this is exactly how organized religion has a stronghold on the masses by instilling fear, fire and brimstone, a wrathful god with a vengeance backed up by their man written doctrines influenced by culture and society at the time of such books/scriptures were written. This is not the god I serve. My god is a god of UNCONDITIONAL love and compassion. No parent would EVER condemn their own children to burn in hell for eternity. Would you as a parent do that to your child ???
I would certainly warn my child of destructive behavior, and foolish choices, and you would not? Your god is made in your own image my friend, that is a father who hates his child, its certainly not love. And He will not force anyone to live the way He desires, or force Himself on anyone. If they seek to live apart from Him in this life He will let them live that way in the next, they were warned. But He has made a way to avoid the judgement to come in the death of His Son. By placing ones faith in the Savior, He offers a new life, eternal life. "Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all everywhere should repent, because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead"
@@Tony-l4u8cyour God is too you foxtrot-alpha-golf-golf-oscar-tango
Just a slightly different image of your own approval.
@@eastcoastglobetrotter1760 the only way you can conclude obedience is not necessary is to tear out parts of what Jesus said. Unconditional love is not the same thing as a tolerance of evil. We cannot continue to sin and take advantage of God’s grace.
Hell is real. Don’t lie to yourself and pretend otherwise.
Costi never answered the question in the title.
No duh, homosexuality is a sin according to scripture but that’s not the titled question.
YES, homosexual can be a Christian, just like anyone else who sins because again, WE ALL DO DAILY!!!
Homosexuality is a sin and we’re ALL sinners, saved or not!
I’m not gay and I don’t think it’s right but to suggest that someone isn’t saved because they’re gay is what someone would do who doesn’t understand justification by faith
“No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.”
1 John 3:9 ESV
There are certain ways to test if you are truly saved, and those who make a practice of sinning are not of God. A homosexual follower of Christ does not exist, the same as a fornicator or pornography-watching Christian. Who the Son sets free, is free indeed and if we are granted repentance and turn away from that sin, that’s how we know we are saved.
@@juanthebaptist8126 God bless you friend but you’ve got way too much faith in the flesh and not 100% in Christ.
You’re going to sin, whether it’s a little or a lot and God forbid that it’s obvious, atrocious sins that hurt folks BUT that has NOTHING to do with your salvation or it would be about you and not 100% about Christ.
You cannot look upon the flesh for “evidence” of salvation.
The only thing you can go off of for assurance is have you believed on Christ’s finished work on the cross that it’s sufficient for all things and if you have, you’re permanently saved and sealed for eternity.
Rightly divide, rightly divide, rightly divide!
God is done with the flesh, you should judge it also understanding that no good can from it apart from Christ, therefore you can’t look upon it for “evidence” of anything outside of morality.
@@benprestridge6787 You misunderstand. I’m not looking to my flesh as evidence of salvation but the spirit of God that lives within me. “Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-unless indeed you fail to meet the test! I hope you will find out that we have not failed the test.”
2 Corinthians 13:5-6 ESV
You’re right to say that I will sin again. For example, I accidentally stole 11 cents from someone when I short changed them. I thought the total was different than it was. When I did that, the spirit of God inside of me convicted me and I had to go make things right, even if it was just 11 cents. So although I might sin again, because of the spirit of God inside of me, I do not make a practice of sin anymore, I can’t. Otherwise, it’d be evidence that I failed the test. It’d be evidence that the spirit of God isn’t actually working inside of me. And if you are practicing homosexuality or any sin, conscious sin that you know is wrong but continue on in it, you are not saved. You have not repented. And the spirit of God is not working inside of you. God is not darkness. He is only light. Therefore one who knows the truth yet chooses to continue walking in the ways of sin and darkness, are not His children. Those who may sin, and repent and get back on the path of Christ, those are the ones who are saved. The spirit inside of them will not let them continue on in sin. They will be driven to repentance and turn away from that sin. You can’t have the good of Jesus Christ without repentance and turning away from continual sin. I’m saved because of what Christ did in me, because He granted me a repentant heart supernaturally and in that moment I instantly was freed from the bondage of my own sexual immorality, in pornography. And drug addiction as well. That’s how I know I’m saved. Because of what He did. God will save those in darkness who repent. God will save those in homosexuality out of it if they repent.
@@juanthebaptist8126 Yes, I understand Christ is in me because I’m crucified with Him, nevertheless I live, yet not I but Christ in me and I don’t look on the flesh for anything like you do regarding spirituality, I’m done with it as God is.
I have no hope in myself, just faith in Christ who is sufficient for ALL things.
I assume you think the members of the church of Corinth were all going to hell based off your belief that you can’t be saved if you’re committing repetitive sins even though Paul addressed them as believers and said He knew them by their “utterance”…. By what they professed, their testimony of Christ alone, it certainly wasn’t their actions, their “repetitive sins” which they were committing, yet still saved!
My focus is to rest in faith in my reward that is Christ, all that I have by receiving Him, knowing that I’m fully justified, sanctified and redeemed, that I’ve been made a co-heir with Christ, that He presents be spotless and without blame and that I can go to God boldly whenever, even if I fall into repetitive, obvious sins as you’re talking about.
I don’t focus on my sins or others as it pertains to Christ because He’s not concerned with it, He’s already defeated sin and it’s nailed to the cross.
Learn to rightly divide by reading all of scripture through the lens of the mystery of Christ in us revealed through Paul
Have a good day friend
@@benprestridge6787 I think you misunderstand God’s grace. His grace and His kindness are meant to lead us into repentance. Not merely this state of bliss where we just rest in who we are because Jesus died for us. That sacrifice on the cross is meant to change us, and break us. God is merciful and gracious, but He’s also holy and righteous. The ones who are truly His, He will put through the fire of refinement to sanctify us and to make Him like His son, Christ, before we enter the kingdom of God. God hates sin. So to say that you boldly go to His throne living in constant, repetitive sin, I’m sorry to tell you that He doesn’t hear you. “When you spread out your hands, I will hide my eyes from you; even though you make many prayers, I will not listen; your hands are full of blood. Wash yourselves; make yourselves clean; remove the evil of your deeds from before my eyes; cease to do evil, learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow’s cause. “Come now, let us reason together, says the Lord: though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall become like wool. If you are willing and obedient, you shall eat the good of the land; but if you refuse and rebel, you shall be eaten by the sword; for the mouth of the Lord has spoken.””
Isaiah 1:15-20 ESV
Read that whole first part of Isaiah. He’s talking about a people that believe in Him, but continue on in wickedness and sin. They find themselves justified in the law, the same as people now are finding themselves justified by Christ and what He did, that’s the start of faith. But a mature believer has repented and turned away from continual and repetitive sin.
“But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe-and shudder! Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?”
James 2:18-20 ESV
If your life isn’t a representation of walking the same way Christ walked, because of the change that happened inside of you, which is salvation, than it’s quite possible that faith is dead. You’re absolutely right, that everyone has sinned and the only way to get into heaven is by believing in Christ and the work of the cross, that we are saved by grace through faith. The question is how do we know we truly are believers? And have we truly repented, which is a turning away from repetitive sin?
“And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”
Acts 2:38 ESV
If you have not repented, if you have not wept and mourned and been broken over your sin, and what we did to Jesus on the cross, to the point of your heart being completely transformed from stone to flesh, and turning from your sin, you do not have the Holy Spirit. That’s scripture, not my opinion. And I am looking at it in the context of the whole Bible. I know God, and He knows me. God is merciful, but He is also judge. Christ gives us the power to turn from sin and become like Him. That’s why there is no excuse. But believing is just the first step, the entrance to the narrow gate. We must take the step of repentance, which God graciously grants.
The word originally meant joyful but it has been distorted
Effeminate is the word in scripture to define non masculinity!
I'm gay. Am I cooked?
For those who are very quick to comment “the answer is no!” I have a question for you: what of the Christians who are same sex attracted and live celibate lifestyles to hold to a biblical sex ethic in service of Jesus?
They are clearly gay. Are they out? Is there no grace for their sin?
Correct, they still have no entry into Heaven. Adultery, fornication and homosexuality are all different types of sins (1 Corinthians 6:9-10), though we usually see them overlap. If a LGBTQ+ person does not engage in the first two, they're still homosexual.
It's written: “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matthew 5:27-28). Lust is another type of sin, which people, straight or gay, engage in almost daily in this modern, lustful society. It's ever-present in the hypersexual LGBTQ+ community. So, even if a gay person does not engage in physical relationships, they're still lusting after other men. That extends from their twisted identity. Typically, no fault of their own - initially. The fault comes when they succumb to the perversion.
Many people are quick to judge b/c it's not a difficult case to sentence. After all, before Christ, in the Law, gays were stoned to death as it's an abomination before the eyes of the Lord. Glory to God, that's not the case anymore and now there's mercy and grace. To him or her who CHOOSES to repent. Even so, there's hope for change and transformation, in healing and liberation that only occurs when we're before the Presence of the Almighty. He cleans, He washes us - if we CHOOSE to lay our sin down at His feet (whatever it is). This is where many don't understand: the healing and liberation process; or, in other words, the transformation. Being gay is a "disease" within the soul. How do you cure it? It's impossible! Ask any member of the LGBTQ+ community. There isn't medication, therapy or procedures that can heal ailments of the soul. Yet, God can. So, yes, there's mercy and grace, but for the person to come to Christ and be freed of their prison, not for them to continue their sinful life, with or without physical intimacy (as noted first, that'd be a different sin/issue). People struggle with that. It's not an easy battle, but not impossible with God. Hope that provides more insight. God bless you!
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17).
@@bryce8418 Paul makes it clear that those who practice homosexuality well not inherit the kingdom. Having thoughts but not entertaining those stats are not the same level of Sin
Like the other person who replied said, Same-sex attraction is not a sin. Acting on it is.
@@resistingRage so with that in mind… if someone were to call themselves a “gay Christian” because attracted to the same sex but lived celibate lifestyles is that okay?
@@bryce8418 The person would still be gay, though. God liberates and transforms. Not sure why many gays prefer to stay as such, as opposed to have faith in God. I myself lived through it YEARS ago.
It's not an easy road. I mean, the Christian walk never is. How can someone remain gay and still be a Christian? Just by having those thoughts and feelings I your mind and heart is a sin.
“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matthew 5:27-28)
The desire of attraction is within all souls, however, the soul (a point of light) is genderless, either male or female. The soul simply plays it part according to the body's gender. The first mistake humans made was to identify themselves as male and female, a body, rather than the soul occupying the body. Sometimes a soul will have stronger feelings for a certain body type/gender or just with the soul alone, the personality, which is perfectly normal. Souls have been taking birth to male and female bodies since time immemorial. And in some births we are drawn to a certain body preference due to past life experiences.
Can you believe in God & still be attracted to the same gender? Absolutely. Can you call yourself a gay Christian then? Absolutely not.
Our identity as a Christian is soley in Christ. He's the one that gave up equality with God, submitted Himself to being human & dying on the Cross to reconcile us to God. How dare anyone seek to put THEIR identity in the same line, in the same breathe, as that.
Jesus said if anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself, pick up his cross, & follow Him. Being a Christian is not about you. It's not about expressing yourself; it's about denying yourself. It's not about being whatever or whoever you want to be; It's about being who Christ wants you to be. It's not about your identity; it's about reflecting the nature & character of God.
Being gay might be contrary to scripture, just like a straight middle-aged guy being attracted to young single girls, just like someone who wants to get drunk all the time, but that's our cross we have to carry. That analogy tells you it's not going to be easy. But as Jesus Himself said, if you believe, nothing is impossible. God Bless. 🙂
Can you believe in God & still be attracted to the homophobic lifestyle? Absolutely. Can you call yourself a homophobic Christian then? Absolutely not.
Jesus didn’t need to say anything about it because no one was gay in that culture at that time. In the same way He never said anything about rape
What a bizarre thing to say. It’s almost like saying adultery didn’t exist back then. Remember Sodom and G. They existed well before the testament age.
YES THEY WERE!!!! Jesus healed the ear of a gay person. And he did address rape. He gave a law on love one another, can u love someone in rape? NO
No hate, but I think you might need to go back and read your Bible a bit more.
@@trevrockrock16 lol
@@resistingRage No u do hate old fruit so go back and read a christian Bible as heaven knows what ur reading to find that hate is ok for a christian.
I'm a Christian Monk. I'm going to Heaven. I'm celibate and have no desire for sex.
Christians can struggle with same sex attraction but not life this lifestyle. Salm Alberry has good material on this that is very empathetic with struggling believers yet firm on the truths of Gods word
WRONG. Christians can struggle with the attraction to hate LGBT people but not live the homophobic lifestyle.
Yes sir. I wish more people understood that Same-sex attraction is not a sin. It's not like people choose who they're attracted to. It's acting on those fleshy desires that are sin. But I wish there wasn't such a double standard. So many Christians today will feel they can condem others bet than fornicate without a care in the world. There is more heterosexual sin in the church than homosexual. That's just a fact.
WRONG!!! Christians can struggle with homophobia but not life this evil homophobic lifestyle.
The Words of Jesus Christ are very clear you can not serve two master.
and yet homophobics manage
You didn’t answer your own question though; can a Christian be gay?
So if I am both, accepting Paul’s stance in the thing and all, and having lived in celibate my whole life (not without its temptations and sins though) - can I be a Christian if God doesn’t seem to liberate me from my wrongful attraction; can I still be a Christian? If not; what do I do? And if there’s nothing more to do and I’m going to hell anyway; why not just give up on faith and live promiscuously while I still can (that last one is more of a retorical question in my case)..?
There's nuisance to your question, which I like. However, I don't think you meant it, and your inquiry reflects the same one that's always asked. Not a bad thing at all, let it be clear!
I'll answer the nuisance version first: if God does not liberate you, you still fight onward, denying yourself and withstanding any and all matters of temptations. A rare case, however, but could happen which is why I said I liked the question, though I don't think you meant it like this. Take for example the Apostle Paul, as it's written: "And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness ..." (2 Corinthians 12:7-9). This means that, despite having same-sex attraction festering inside, you do not claim them as your identity. You'd need spiritual matury and discernment for this, which is gained as you grow in your relationship with God.
The question that I think you're asking, which most gay people have, is that God simply does not make the change. Not in the same terms as with the Apsotle Paul - TOTALLY different and INCREDIBLY rare! Rather, there's a lack of belief that He can b/c they simple haven't witnessed it in their life. As stated, lack of faith.
God does clean, liberate and transform. People simply choose to continue satisfying their lustful flame as opposed to present themselves before the Almighty to be cleaned. It's not always a one visit ordeal. The dirtier something is, the harder and longer you take to scrub the sludge off. Even so, God takes His time, so we're not suffering through the process. Spiritually discerned, and we're processed through fire - obviously not physical - in order to be sanctified and it hurts within. Faith sees it fulfilled, but a lot don't have it so are never freed. The Bible is specific that change is not just possible, but true and tangible.
So, to directly answer your question: as with all manners of sins, you seek God, truly, and without stop. Not partially, but fervently. Prayer, reading the Bible, fasting and simply being in His Presence. Homosexuality is not an exclusive, difficult thing to escape from, just that most don't understand the how. The answer remains the same. It's difficult to understand it when the sin itself has deeply infected the soul and altered the mindset, heart and emotions. The truth remains the same, however. And God can liberate. God bless you!
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17).
yes as many LGBT are christian
Read Romans 1, the second part.
Paul tells us basically that a person’s lack of understanding of God’s character and acceptance of His lordship further evolves into embracing lies and self deception about who He is until it outwardly manifests as a lifestyle completely destroyed by sexual perversion.
if u read all romans 1 u would see it condemns homophobics!!!! IRONY EH
@@trevrockrock16 No romans 1 says God gave the heterosexuals who did same sex acts in idolotry over to a reprobate mind, stop adding to Gods word as satan is helping you to.
@@trevrockrock16 yes it does old bean
@@ministermattocks7570 Explain what is a homophobic and where does Romans 1 address it?
@@_sonicfive Romans 1 says nothing on LGBT people is why its homophobic to say otherwise. And look up the word homophobic for a definition.
Adding calm music doesn't make this authoritative. Only Paul in the new testatement is critical of homosexuality (who was also critical of women and clearly considered them inferior - not a rational person to follow in such matters). The other references are all old testament and don't refer to homosexuality but effeminate male behaviour, male prostitution etc. Jesus did call out sin. He did not condemn the adulterous woman but told her to sin no more. By comparison when he heals the male lover of the roman centurion (yes the word greek work used was not pais which is the normal term for a servant, but doulos which was a servant that had a relationship with the his master) he made no reference to their relationship being sinful.
In the 1960s, Norman Mailer was howled down by feminists for saying, "a homosexual is a person who PRACTICES homosexuality." Although this was before the word "gay" took hold, the notion that homosexuality was a state of being, not a sexual predilection, was beginning to fester. But Norman, not a Godly man, was right. A homosexual is not what you ARE. It is not a state of being, as you might say of one's gender, race or nationality. If they admitted it was something they DO, something that enters via the heart, then, as with any sinner, they could turn from it.
The word "gay" was coined as a deception, and it has entrapped a lot of homosexuals who actually want to turn away from it. Describing it more accurately will allow discussion, and the asking of the right questions. The use of the word "gay" has enabled people to claim they are "born that way". The use of "homosexual" allows us to discuss it as a preference, and to see the obvious truth that Satan doesn't want us to see: that one cannot be BORN with a sexual preference.
Paul refers specifically to just about every kind of sinner when he says, "Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God".
Paul is making the point that we are not only capable of any sin, but that we harbour them in our hearts. Thus, when he says, "such were some of you: but ye are washed", he says it's only Jesus who stands between us and the act. The only thing that stops us being any of those sinners he listed is that we no longer PRACTICE those sins. Homosexuality is NOT an inescapable state of being, as the word "gay" suggests. It is something that can be repented of, and when we repent, we resolve not to commit the sin again. That is, to PRACTICE the sin. Instead, we tackle it when it enters our heart. To battle against it in our hearts means we will not network our sin. If a man practices ANY sin six days a week, but refrains from it on church day, he is unrepentant, and a loving brother or sister might feel obliged to speak to him about it, not just for his own sake, but for the sake of that church, because sins can become contagious if they are seen to be condoned within its walls.
Whether that sin is habitual murder, or ongoing adultery, one cannot enter the church with the intention of continuing to commit it. Yet the term "gay Christian" suggests a homosexual can do just that. Homosexuals are not exempt from the need to repent. Many of them only pretend they are. It's the very essence of repentance that many "gay" people deny, because they don't want to believe anything they do is a sin, as those murderers and adulterers would. They don't believe they should repent of something that is not wrong; that is merely what they ARE. That gives them a different status from that of their brethren, who are accountable to one-another and God.
I do think preachers or anyone who cares can help their cause by refusing to even use the word "gay". A person who practices homosexuality, even when they go to church, needs help. But first, the problem needs accurate definition, otherwise the solution will miss the mark, and no-one is done any favours.
The Westboro Baptists would agree with you of course, and feel supported by you. Are you all Christians ? Does Jesus support Westboro? How does one get to be a "Pastor"? Who bestows that authority?
This is an improper title. The video is more about whether homosexuality is a sin..
Something that I’ve heard in the lgtbq community is that Jesus died for our sins, so you can continue being gay. If you stop being gay, then Jesus died for nothing.
Please note that this is a huge contradiction to the New Testament specially noted in Hebrew 10:26
In addition this is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. You’ve made Jesus death which is Gods will into the devil work. Please note that this is the one sin God does not forgive.
There's a ridiculous amount of confusion on this topic, but that's what occurs when you don't seek God. If you assume you can be gay and still be a Christian, you're only deceiving yourself. What's the point of that?
Now, in His grace and mercy, you CAN be freed and cleaned, liberated, healed and transformed, but to sin no further nor to continue identifying with the sin. Made anew, your heart washed and your soul sanctified, your emotions corrected and your mind freed. Still, many do NOT want to change. That doesn't justify you, nor is it the truth.
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17).
its being homophobic and christian thats the issue, as its impossible
@@ministermattocks7570 My points are on the reality of life, not your pretend world of backwards thinking, Minister of Lies. Why do you prefer the latter?
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:17 - 20
Here's another question you might want to consider, costi. Can a multi millionaire enter the Kingdom of Heaven ? Your son might get there but you may not, and be separated from him for eternity. It's perhaps a more germane question for you than obsessing about other people's(?) gayness.
Our identity is in Christ.
“Such were some of you”
I don’t label myself as my besetting sins.
I’m His not my own.
such were some of u implies homophobia
Who do you think you are to know the mind of God? Your understanding of what scripture means about the issue forgets that such a concept was not yet developed.
Can a eunuch be circumcised?
This is what a follower of Christ is: Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. Matthew 16:24-26
Jesus upheld God’s definition of marriage. Amen!!
The stories you speak up in Genesis happen before the fall. And after the fall things changed. And those changes aren’t necessarily sinful or bad. When a man sweats from his brow and plows his field, that isn’t sinful. Even though that’s not how it was supposed to be. When a woman screams from childbirth, she’s not possessed by a demon. Even though that’s not how it was supposed to be when a lion kills it’s prey, or a child catches a cold, those aren’t sinful acts. Even though that’s not how it was supposed to be.
No, you cannot be a Christian and still claim to be gay.
You might be struggling to be freed of it, but you no longer identify with it. As God works in you, if you seek Him, He'll be the One cleaning you. It won't work, for He never forces anyone, if you still cling and hold on to that identity.
The like is if you remain celibate, but remain gay. Truly, what's the point of that? Truly. Though I understand where the idea comes from. However, fornication and homosexuality are two distinct things. Though they commonly overlap, stopping one while continuing the other does not justify your own self before the Lord. This only demonstrates your lack of faith in that God can completely and wholly clean you of ALL sins.
I myself was gay, though this was well over ten years ago when God began to change me and completely free me. There's depth to this topic, in the spiritual sense, which people won't understand until you grow close to God. What I can say is that this sin is an infection of the soul. Nothing on this earth will heal you from it, except the outstretched hand of God. You want change? Truly? Beloved, the answer is extremely simple. Jesus Christ! What do I mean? As I said before, He liberates. Keep seeking Him, fervently, w/o stopping in prayer, reading His Word and fasting, going to Church, attending Bible Study and worship His name in your private quarters. Will He not see you and receive you? Have faith, He will. You are the one to make the first move and you're the one tasked to have faith to see it fulfilled. Note, faith also grows by physically listening to the Word of God (Romans 10:17). It's not an easy road, but it's possible. What is impossible to us, to Him it's incredibly easy. Homosexuality is not unforgivable, but you choose to repent. Likewise, do not be fooled to think it's acceptable before His eyes as it still is and always has been an abomination before Him (Leviticus 20:13). Yet, in His love, He receives us to sanctify us and clean us and once done say: go, and sin no more. As stated below, some of us WERE this, but no longer anymore! Glory to God!
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17).
@Quint-ib4nf for the perverted, nothing pure is good.
you can not pretend to be christian and be homophobic
@@Man.of.God30 and homophobia is perverted
@@ministermattocks7570 I'm a Christian, which is the realistic truth. Why do you pretend that I'm homophobic? B/c I speak of what is written in the Word of God? You greatly err.
@@Man.of.God30 You can NOT be both christian and homophobic, a man can not worship 2 gods....you have to pick sides....satan loves homophobia.....you cherry pick what the bible says which homophobics do so well....I am praying for you to repent and stop following satan. In Jesus name.
1 Corinthians 6:9,10
in a modern bible where they add in the word homopsexual u mean?
Same context, as before it read man that lieth with man.
@@Man.of.God30 u mean the old law that God said is a dead law old bean?
@@ministermattocks7570 The Book of Corinthians is in the NT, which is the topic at hand. Or, is the point of discussion also difficult for you to grasp?
assume u mean in a modern bible where they add words in?
Same Sex Attraction isn't a sin. Acting on it is. Can a sinner be Christian? Of course. Can a sinner remain saturated in sin with no desire to repent and sin no more and still be considered a Christian? I would argue that their faith then would be dead for there is no manifestation that the Spirit is in them. As Christians, we must cooperate with the Holy Spirit to grow in virtue. The Holy Spirit would never lead us into acting out on same sex attraction under any circumstance. It would lead us only away from that. If we move towards acting on same sex attraction, we are moving towards sin and away from God.
actually homophobia is not a sin, acting on it as u did is
@@ministermattocks7570 I'm not 'afraid' of gays so I'm not homophobic. I detest sin as all Christians are called to do. I work with the Spirit to not sin and to grow in virtue and sanctity. I resist temptations, not give into them. I am called to change myself into Christ, not to distort Christ to fit my preexisting ways and lifestyle. Get a grip.
Your answer confuses the Good News of Christianity! There's a difference between saying homosexuality isn't a sin (when it clearly is) and being a Christian who still sins. When we put our faith in Jesus, we are made RIGHT - regardless of sin (past, present and future). Replace "gay" in the title with any other sin - if the answer isn't the same (aka, YES) then you're preaching a twisted version of Christianity that doesn't fully rely on the sacrifice of Jesus.
Short answer is yes. Just like a Christian can watch porn, commit adultary, steel, gossip, covit etc etc. Being a Christian isn't about being without sin!!! We're all sinners, no question! It's what we choose to do with that sin. Ask the spirit fir strength and wisdom, repent.
Ask for Gods help in not committing said sins. Try & grow a relationship with the Lord worthy of heaven. Unattainable forsure on our own, that's why we need God and not self!! Blessings.
No, the Bible has been clear since the beginning:
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).
"Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie." (Revelation 22:14-15).
There's a difference between being perfect and sinless with fighting and struggling to be better, through Jesus Christ. If there's no will, want and desire to change, what justification does the porn-addict, adulterer, thief, gossiper and the covetous have? "Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance ..." (Luke 3:8). The grace of Jesus Christ is enough, for us to have the opportunity to change, not to remain as pigs in mud. To repent and THEN be forgiven. The same is of the homosexual. Which is why He, Himself, said upon forgiving the adulteress: “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.” (John 8:11). God bless you.
If you love the Lord with all your heart,all your mind,and all your soul,your going to do your best,with all the power the Lord gives you,to be obedient to him.How much do we love him.? is the question……
The answer is NO they are forbidden from His Kingdom, it is only open to those of us who are morally pure and cleaned by His blood. If I remember correctly, SSA is not a forgivable sin, so vigilant Christian men should watch what they think! He knows!
is that what satan told u
No. Jesus said he's to fulfill the law. The law says same sex is a sin. Jesus doesn't promote sin.
@N0NASH no, not if you asked for forgiveness. Repeatedly deliberately lying raises a question. Are you really Christian or just proclaiming to be without having a true relationship with Christ. Because if you did, you'd regret lying and repent. Deliberately continuing in sin and proclaiming Jesus as your Lord and Savior is hypocritical. Or it means you've got serious mental issues. Jesus slammed hypocrisy. Read your scripture, and you'll find out what I'm saying is true.
Can a Christian be a SINNER?! "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justified the UNGODLY, his faith is counted for righteousness" - Romans. Im not gay, but i am a sinner who is not close to sinless perfection. Thank youmLord for "GRACE that is greater than all Our sin" - Hymn
homophobics can't be christians
Sinful desires like lust need to be controlled, we all have it .And the same applies for homosexuality. The person cannot practice homosexuality or lust acts if they are christians. It's actually simple like that
but a homosexual can love then and be christian, cool
Isnt it likely that Jesus was gay ?
Yeah, he had all those men following him 😂
There is much to suggest it. Domineering mother, absent father, no female friends, comfortable among working class men, rebel, free-thinker, liberal, good at whipping up a tasty buffet at short notice...
Answer: No. No need to beat around the bush with it, it isnt the only sin but it is condemned
yes homophobia is a sin
If you carefully examine Scripture on this topic, it states homosexual ACTS are sinful, not BEING homosexual. So yes, you can be a gay Christian but can't commit any homosexual acts.
Yet, if you read further and identify what it is, you'll come to realize that homosexuality is the total corruption of the human identity; thus, it's written:
"Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." (Romans 1:24-32).
So,it goes WAY further than simply being a sinful act. So, no, you cannot be gay and a Christian at the same time.
I don't agree with that lifestyle but also God created us all to love one another and not judge whatever a person wants to do to better there self with God is what's important
If you are asking about a lifestyle, the answer is NO! If you are referring to old desires, then I can only say that sinful desires will always remain. The difference is that my eyes were opened. I know that sex outside of marriage is sin. I deal with many believers that still wrestle with sexual sin. I try to encourage them to confess their sin to God, get up, and brush themselves off, then keep walking. Stay in the word and the word will come out of you. If any man says he does not sin, he is a liar. Confess your faults one to another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed.
there is no lifestyle though
True. It's really more of a political issue. 96.5% of us are straight. It's just human nature to try and say that what we want is agreeable with God. That really goes for all sin. Christianity is about overcoming.
actually 80% of us are heterosexual
@@ministermattocks7570 Google says 3.5%.
So some people are just randomly chosen and forced to spend their lives fighting their own inherent identity and giving up basic human experiences like relationships, sex, a sense of belonging, the chance to not...ya know...live in agony... to get a ticket into heaven while others just have to fight the urge not to murder someone and they're good to go? Makes sense. Balanced.
Yes, they can be same sex attracted. It becomes sin when those feelings are acted upon.
Mmmkay, gay happens, but God gave each soul the worst sin to fight off.. Being gay happens, but fighting off the behavior and actions is the fight.
People believe they were the strongest soul, so argument is they were plagued with gay.
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If a gay exploits being gay, did the gay fail god, or did we?
its homophobics who must fight their sin
No you can't you become a new creation in Christ.
so homophobics are not christian
As to Paul (who came much after Christ,) I find it queer none of the homophobic "Christians" suggest a video on TH-cam attacking those overweight, using 1 Corinthians 6:19-20. How do you suppose THEY would react to you telling them they "can't be Christian." Or how about a video on women who speak in church or enter without hair uncovered are "not Christian." hmmm
None of the REAL apostles, who lived with Christ condemn homosexuality. Christ never "healed" one, or in any way addressed the topic. Are you arguing he just forgot?
No one can tell us who is or is not Christian. Nor can you determine who is filled with God's Spirit. But there are some things we can say for certain. Christ's final command is a singular one. To love everyone God loves. To tell someone because of who they are they are not allowed to be a follower, is NOT an act of love, my friend. In fact, it is a sin of pride, suggesting you know better than God does. The same sin that befell the devil in paradise.
No one is telling anyone who is or isn’t a follower of Christ, the Bible is. “No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.”
1 John 3:9 ESV
Jesus saved a prostitute from being stoned to death, and when He did He told her that she wasn’t condemned, but to go and sin no more. To repent. You can’t have the Jesus loves you part without the actual changing of heart and your lifestyle. Trust me, I’ve experienced this. You can’t have two masters. You’ll either hate one and love the other. It doesn’t mean I don’t sin ever again, but I’m convicted, I repent, and I get back on the path. You can’t live in sin and follow Christ, period.
Exactly. JESUS' reply to the religious leaders of HIS day about marriage is the answer. Indirect answer to gayism & lesbianism. Gayism & lesbianism are fruits of a debased mind. Not the way GOD created man & woman to be. Sin means to miss the mark. If a gay or lesbian turns to CHRIST then he or she will be set free from that lifestyle. But if a Christian turns to such lifestyle then he or she is deceived & captive of satan.
God also made LGBT people
Why can't you just say you are a Christian, a follower of Christ? Heterosexual people don't call themselves straight Christians.
Of course - I have lived with one for 15 years - amazing guy - best I’ve ever met
This is dumb... God loves all of his people and we all sin but god still loves us. God wants you to have a relationship with him meaning excepting his love no matter what your background is.
Is homosexual a sin in itself or the participation in gay sex a sin? To me it is the act that is sin. If a person that says they are homosexual but don't practice it cannot they be Christian.
Why would you identify yourself as something if you don’t practice it? I know a person who says he’s one but just doesn’t practice. If God truly delivered you then you don’t call yourself a homosexual anymore. That’s just like if God delivered you from being a thief, liar, drug addict, you wouldn’t continue to call yourself those things. As Paul says ,the old man, former man, I used to do this and that.
@@bbbvids22 you missed my point and it shows in your comment. I'm not homosexual, I'm a married man of 38 years. You assume alot and don't really comprehend what I was saying. Try again.
@@mikeellis2025 I never said you were homosexual. I was referring to your question about if a person is homosexual. It’s a response to a hypothetical question.
no its homophobia thats the sin
@@ministermattocks7570 I beg to differ with you . The sin is a man who lays with a man or a woman that lays with a woman. That's the sin.
No a Christian cannot be gay, because gayness is a punishment for turning your back on God (Romans 1:21-25)
Jesus was gay. Are you telling me that he was in violation of his own laws???
John was the apostle whom he loved. Jesus was queer as they come and you have not a single shred of evidence to prove me wrong.
@@bobhubson8511 Your own perverted mind is proof and evidence of the falsehood you claim.
"To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled. They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work." (Titus 1:15-16).
To answer the question: yes, one can be gay and a Christian.
False, thus written:
"You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons." (1 Corinthians 10:21).
God, in His love, grace and mercy, liberates and sanctifies, so one can be freed of what was plagued us. His grace is not for us to continue in the same prison cell.
I have absolutely no idea how that one verse from the Bible pertains to being gay and a Christian, but, okay...
Being gay isn't being in prison. It is just a morally neutral and unchangeable component of my personality.
Anyway, your understanding of a single Bible verse does nothing to negate the fact that I am a follower of Jesus Christ and I also happen to be gay.@@Man.of.God30
@@ronaldthompson9294 Well, that's actually my complete, full point. With this single verse, I summarize the entire discussion, which your inability to understand confirms it as truth as it is further reflected in your adopted identity. You state to follow Christ, but identify with the antichrist (Daniel 11:37)? Hence, the verse shared above.
Do you assume that cancer is part of the personality of a cancer patient? Or, since you discern not the spiritual, is someone who likes the color blue over pink, seafood over vegan food, part of their personality? Truly, someone's personality is the color blue and seafood? Comical, but such is the same nonsense of homosexuality and your belief on it.
No, you cannot be gay and a Christian. Where's your faith that God can heal? My knowledge of Scripture has no relation to the falsehood you live - I'm merely sharing the gospel. Why do you believe that God cannot change the "impossible," as you coin? Where's your faith?
"But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." (Hebrews 11:6).
@@Man.of.God30 Your first paragraph is a bit like being on a merry-go-round. I kept hopping back on to see if it would do anything else but get me dizzy. WHAT? How does my inability to understand how a decontextualized biblical verse, you randomly posted in reference to something the verse does not actually reference, somehow prove whatever point you were unable to clearly make before?
Yes, sexual orientation and gender orientation do affect personality. Obviously. If I were a gay man, my personality would be different in significant ways than if I were to suddenly become straight. Again, obviously. The rest are just false comparisons you make and they're just in no way compelling. Obviously some characteristics of humanity affect personality less profoundly than others. Being gay in a world and being in a religion that hates you affects my personality deeply.
And I do have faith in God. I have been an ardent follower, lover, friend of Jesus since I was a kid. I know from my many experiences with his love that I am accepted in Him, as an intended, God-created gay man. You will have to do better than decontextualized bible verses without explanation thrown at me to convince me otherwise. I am a child of God.
@@ronaldthompson9294 I mean no offense, but it's like I'm talking to a brick wall with you, which should NOT be the case with someone who claims to be a "child of God." How is it that you do not understand?
The merry go round which you're on is a direct consequence of your inability to advance and understand deeper. I'm extremely conscious of the way I worded it to you, which AGAIN you confirm as truth. How does this not process in your mind? That's b/c you cannot spiritually discern, which is part of the consequence of the homosexual identity, as it's written: "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;" (Romans 1:28).
Regarding the personality discussion, you need to pick up a psychology book. It's concerning for you to believe what you believe on that subject.
I've already noted previously that the antichrist is the spirit of homosexuality, as the Bible explains (Daniel 11:37), for the enemy stands against EVERYTHING that is of God, including His design for humanity. Thus, I began with a simple statement to correct your false claim and shared the precise verse that summarizes in full: to not sit with demons and the Lord, too. Hypocrisy. In your case, blindly so, though not an excuse or justification. So, I ask: why do you state to be friends with Jesus when identifying with the enemy? Has it not been preached continously: be holy in body, mind and spirit (1 Peter 1:13-16)? God never created homosexuality; from where do you assume that conclusion? On the contrary, prior to the Messiah, in His Law, gays were stoned to death, for it is an abomination before His eyes (Leviticus 20:13). He ordered the total destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19:1-29). Likewise, He nearly wiped out one of the twelve tribes of His chosen people, Israel, for having succumb to that sin - the tribe of Benjamin (Judges 19:1-30, 20:1-48). So, if it were true that He made gays, why would He create do destroy? Would He give life to condemn? Additionally, would He form against His own design? Furthermore, why would the one who goes against God, take this form as he identifies with everything NOT of God (Daniel 11:30)?
If you are a child of God, you're not just drowning, you're suffocating. I've chatted with atheist homosexuals with more clarity. How so? Since you have hope, as a child of God, the devil will ensnare you deeper, so you can never see or even understand the prison that you're in. Those who don't believe in God, don't have a key to escape. However, if it's true that you have Jesus Christ in your life, you have the key, but will never use it as is. Sir, that doesn't save you. God has made it clear that homosexuals do NOT enter Heaven (1 Corinthians 6:9-10). Thus, it's also written: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. ..." (Hosea 4:6). How can you say you have faith and have ardently followed Christ, while still imprisoned in sin? That is not something to boast about. Still, you want me to try harder to convince you? How's that my issue? Free will. Still, b/c I am a Christian, whom was actually once a homosexual, I do sympathize and understand your condition, fully. And, in His love and grace, I shared the above, so you can read. He is love, I'm merely one of His many children. Thus, because He is love (1 John 4:7-8), homosexuality is NOT of His. Quit clinging to the enemy and expect salvation, stop courting death and believing your inheritance is life. That belief is called confusion, and it's ridiculous for you to have it and still claim to be a "child of God." I hope that gives you some much needed insight, but I know not everyone is willing to face the truth and proceed to truly come into the light and present themselves to the Almighty (John 3:19-20). Stop living an illusion, read the His Word, the Bible. God bless you.
No.
Next question?
It’s like saying “can a Christian be a serial killer”
not really.....how is murder the same as 2 men in love??? Are u a bit simple me 'owd cocker?
Correct, a complete oxymoron. A lot don't understand, sadly. Love is not lust.
@@Man.of.God30 Exactly 👍🏻
@@Man.of.God30 like a homophobic christian is a complete oxymoron
@Quint-ib4nf Homophobics lie sadly, it is a part of their lifestyle choice.
Can a Christian be heterosexual is an equally ridiculous question. You are what you are. Gods and Jesuses don’t play a part in the equation. Period.
Blasphemer
@@Dnttou0497 hypocrite
A gay Christian shouldn’t just say that Jesus didn’t speak about homosexuality. A gay Christian also needs to say, Jesus is above the law. We saw this clearly when the Pharisee came to Him about His disciples not eating with clean hands. A gay Christian should say “Jesus’s grace is sufficient and he fulfilled the law and we are not bounded by the old law of Leviticus”. A gay Christian should say only Paul bashes gay individuals in the New Testament and says no gay man will be ushered into the kingdom, making the sacrifice of Jesus to no affect. A gay Christian should say “whom the son of man has set free, is free indeed!”. A gay Christian should say “it doesn’t matter if you believe what I am doing in my lane is wrong or not. You’re not the judge of all and do not hold the keys to heaven or hell”. A gay Christian should say “I believe in Jesus and I believe He will never forsake me more leave me and I don’t need your approval. Stop preaching false teaching. Jesus has more for the gay community than modern Pharisees would have us to believe. Let every man be a liar and let God be true. We are free indeed and I’ll not go back to my bondage of thinking otherwise.
You're trying to fit your desires into scripture which is not going to work. Yes there is grace but God also desires truth in the inward parts.
Jesus did say Homosexuality is wrong He said it from the beginning in the Old Testament! Jesus is GOD!
@Quint-ib4nf On the contrary, thus we see members of the LGBTQ+ community living a life of misery as they reap what they sowed.
@Quint-ib4nf Who?
@Quint-ib4nf Friend don’t be a fool. If you love yourself then you would love GOD! If you want the best for yourself then you would get to know Him. GOD is right and just in whatever He does. Again if you really love yourself and want the best for yourself then you should love him and respect him!
@Quint-ib4nf Friend GOD is against all sin. I was a fornicator, a pot smoker, a drunkard , I lacked self control at times and etc. and GOD is against all that. And I had to repent of it. To change my mind on how I was living my life. And GOD is right to command me to change. Because I was wrong.
@Quint-ib4nf GOD created sex but its only between a man and woman in the confines of a marriage. You need to read GOD’S word (the Bible) to understand who He really is and what He asks of you.
Funny how we ask a man if its a sin...read you dang bible it will answer it
Sorry , if anyone is having trouble with this question, then I'll answer it, yes.😊
The short answer is No but here's some detail. 1 Corinthians 6:9 (ESV) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
NOT WHAT PAUL SAID
Great answer, people know the things that are sin, the problem is the devil and the Flesh has people believing you do not need the Holy Ghost and not to believe in the Super natural, the Holy Ghost give you power to over come sin this is how you stay from this type of sin, everybody struggles with something and fornication is no different
Homophobics just want an excuse to sin
bad answer when we support the homophobic lifestyle