I was in this situation a few months ago. Having gone through every chair under the sun: Ikea > Padded Office Chair > Racing Chair > Mid-tier Ergonomic Chair. The Aeron was my last stop because I needed a chair with the best forward-tilt functionality on the market (which is what my lower back needed from the start!) Nevertheless the decision to buy a new remastered made the most sense to me: the improvements across the board in terms of technology and design make a world of difference as does the taut mesh - something you don't often get with a second hand Aeron because wear and tear has given the mesh more slack, which affects your overall comfort and performance in the chair.
A classic aeron, which I got used for 350, solved my back issues so despite all the shortcomings I feel I got a tremendous deal from it. I would only buy a remastered if I had more than enough disposable income
I have the remastered and the classic, I am absolutely in love with the remastered not so much with the classic. Being a bigger person with not too much meat at the rear end the classic actually hurts my butt after 2 hours of sitting while the remastered is comfortable for the whole day. Personally I think the remastered is light years ahead from the classic.
I just picked up an aeron classic for $50 locally. Ordered some refreshed parts such as the seat pad, arm padding, and replacing the lumbar as the old one was broken
Thanks for all of the chair info. Your previous videos have all been very useful as reminders of what I want and don't want in a chair, and it steered me back to getting another Aeron. I saved $300 on my remastered by going to a local Herman Miller authorized dealer. The only downside is there's no 30-day return, but I had a Classic from 2000-2010, and I demoed the chair at their office, so I know what I'm getting into. If you're not comfortable with the risk, buy direct from HM and pay the extra $300. Another upside of going to a local dealer is also the ability to test drive chair fit and chair size. I'm on the borderline between B and C, and after sitting in both, I jumped at the C. I could also try out other Herman Miller chairs they had there, but the Aeron remastered really stood out to me as a task chair that also has good seat air flow. I'm kind of done with leather and memory foam. The seats get too hot for my comfort, and I hate it when my chair gets in the way of me getting things done.
Solid info. It's great to hear they wanted to help. Not all commercial dealers love people coming in for "just 1 chair" which is absurd IMO. But that is the world of furniture -GK
I wanted to buy used but they didn't have any in my area so I bought a new remastered C when they went on sale a few months ago. My first impressions was mixed, quality is still on point, but it dug into the back of my legs. I eventually realised this was because the built in desk is way too high so i used a bunch of knee pads as a foot riser and it fixed this. Since then comfort has been amazing I have noticed a rattle where rear of the lower seats connects to the tilt mechanisms. But seems to just be part of the design. I do wish it had a seat lock back as I use it at home and not the office so more of a mixed use case.
I got the classic refurbished, for 800, and really like it. If I had 1700 to spend I would’ve gotten the remastered. But I just spend 4.5k on my PC build and didn’t want to spend anything more then 800. Going from a dxracer to the classic is a night and day difference. The classic is so comfortable. I got the size C.
@@lauwbreaker I got one refuribished from beverly hills chair, and its been great. The only problems I've had was the latch for the arms is always coming undone, and the screws for the seat pan have to be checked a coupe times a year. Mine started coming loose and I didn't even realize till the who seat pan almost fell out! nothing that wasn't super easy to fix though.
Was considering pickup a refurbished classic one, but they didn't have any size c variants available in my area. So I ended up getting a new remastered one, it's the best investment I've made so far.
@@btodtv I've got the Onyx colour variant with all the adjustments and I got it delivered to me just over 2 weeks ago. As I expected, it did initially give me some discomfort in my back, however it went away after a few days and now it feels super comfortable. I also don't get any leg pain using it unlike the Mirra 2, which was painful for my thighs as the seat pan was not wide enough and the mesh was not that flexible. The forward tilt feature is a game changer for me, as I can actually use it when FPS gaming and still maintain an ergonomic position. I can also use it for work when I am writing code and need to lean forward.
I really did not want there to be a big difference on the remastered but unfortunately there is quite a noticeable difference. If you can, save up a little more and go for the remastered.
My 2008 Aeron just failed after 15 years. The clip on the bottom of the shaft broke which revealed a cracked a bearing race. Replace the shaft and good to go for another 15!
Swapping Aluminium for plastic is 100% a downgrade, this is such a durable chair with parts so vastly available you don't need a warranty. Best option bar none is the fully loaded classic with Paddled arms and posture fit.
It's weird they called it infinite tilt on the classic model. It's basically 5 or 6 positions. When you open you see a disk with a couple half moon shaped cutouts, these are the presets it can do
For weeks, I've been searching for an office chair for my new job and was looking at $1600 aerons, leaps, gestures, embodys, etc. I eventually settled for a $350 Tempurpedic 6450. Why? Because I came to the realization that I hate my job and I might not be guaranteed to be WFH long enough to where a high-end chair will "pay for itself"
Smart decision, there's definitely no need to get an expensive office chair if you won't end up using it that much. Before the whole covid-19 pandemic, I didn't have a job and only had a basic office chair. However, through the 2+ years I've WFH, I realised just how bad it was to use it for long work hours.
@@StardustLegacyFighter If you can get it second hand for under $1000 then it is worth it, even if you don't wfh. I really only sit down during the weekends to play 2-4 hours of video games but my posture is improving and it's extremely comfortable, but I'm probably the perfect size for the chair (5'10, 170 lbs)
I am 6 foot 2 amd 290 pounds. I purchased an $1,800 full loaded model size C. I wanted to love it but it was AWFUL. The mesh is great the hydrolic movents are fantastic. The problem is that you need to fit the chair you CANT make the chair fit you. The huge problem is the frame. It's hard plastic and the front of my feet always feel the frame and in fact it's PAINFUL and it hurts. I tried for 2 weeks but finally could not stand it and sent it back. If you fit the chair it's probably fantastic but if you don't fit the chair it's Awful.
I bought an new remastered Aaron at the start of the pandemic and it was not of the best purchases I made in the past couple years. Not to mention most authorized dealers can give you better pricing than the website.
I'd be happy to buy a refurbished Aeron from your company, but in 6+ months of looking it is always listed as "out of stock"---is there a way to be notified should the chair ever be back in stock? Thanks!
Hopeful to have a few hundred coming in at the end of the month. If you touch base with our sales team (sales at btod dot com) they can add you to our list -GK
Be nice if I could switch out the seat pans and put a remastered seat pan in a classic chair. If you don’t sit in the classic just right you are right, you can feel that front pad under your legs, and its annoying. I find if I sit in it with my butt hitting the back, where the sear meets the back, that the front pad doesn’t annoy me.
Is there any difference in the quality of the mesh? Would you say that the remastered version is of higher quality and less prone to tears and damages ?
True, but the remastered Aeron only lacks a metal base, everything else is the same as the classic one. Unless you're an animal, I can't think of a moment where you'd end up scratching it beyond repair. But if it really pains you, the fully loaded remastered Aeron comes with a polished aluminium base. Yes it costs more, but the Aeron honestly doesn't get any better than that from a functional and aesthetic point of view.
@@StardustLegacyFighter i have a remastered aeron, i use it in my homeoffice, and i have it for almost a year, and it already shows some marks in the plastic here and there. Its marked on the base (where sometimes you bump it against furniture) and in the backrest, where you rest your back, right where the lower back ends and the mid back starts, on the vertices, wich is the part that gets closer to the table. I used to lower the armrests and tuck it in under the desk and right at that point its where it bumps onto the desk and the plastic there got whitish. Nothing major just some color change, so i stoped doing that and let the armrests level with the desk. I don't like the polished parts, i think it cheapens the look a lot, thats cause of the widespread use of polished metal parts on cheap chinese chairs, unfortunately. And I'm really careful with the chair, i try really hard to not bump it, and i dont rest my feet on the base. The plastic seems to be really prone to losing its color when it chafes against other materials the kind of "damage" that goes away when you rub some oily product. I love the chair, but the plastic on my cheap chinese one is less prone to those kind of damages and i don't babysit it like i do my aeron.
I am new to the Aeron and would like to purchase one. I am a female, 5' 7, 180 lbs with a big butt, should I opt for a size B or C? Thanks for suggestions.
Need more info bro... Like your height, sitting preferences/behaviour, mesh or cushion, headrest or no headrest, pronounced lumbar support or little lumbar support, etc.
The classic chair in this video is more like a 800$ than a 300$ I think. I have the remastered in Onyx black. With the new black damper it looks sleek but the base should've been metal for this price point.
I agree a plastic base on something this costly is crazy I expect tip notch build in that class not a base that's used on a cheap staples chair plus I would think it can crack at the caster swivel joints seems like a pos failure point to me is this going to last? my clasic base is like new and its near 22 years old, and at this new higher price I would expect it to be a HQ aluminum powder coat base like on my classic if they want to modernize it a bit that's great but should still be made of aluminum not so type of plastic at $1700. Is the main frame even metal on these new Aerons no one really ever mentions it.
Hey guys I’m curious if you could ever do a review on the Nexvoo Nexchair. I’m interested in this chair because it apparently has health monitoring technology (heart rate, blood oxygen level, etc.) which sounds conceptually interesting, but I haven’t been able to find many reviews for it yet. Thanks!
LOTS OF posts online saying their remastered breaking after a few months, def made me decide not to buy from hm. Seems lkike they are going cheap quality and still charging a premium lol
@@isbestlizard It's a cosmetic feature and not something that counts as "fully loaded", I personally wouldn't bother with it unless you really want it.
@@isbestlizard Check out your local Authorized Dealers. They might offer better price than buying directly from HM. Here in France I can get alu base for 1500.
A lot of good points, BUT. I prefer the pad, and if the plastic base is "better" then why do they charge more for the metal base. Also, please know I have had mine for 16 years, the old version, and there is not a single chip or scratch on the aluminum base. It's a profit grab. The old version is an absolute steal at $300. Just add silicone wheels, the old and new wheels are terrible, relatively speaking. If you have the resources, the new chair is better, but not 6x better.
Because that is the higher end, polished aluminum base. They have always charged more for this upgrade, even when the painted aluminum base was standard. It is a cosmetic upgrade only. It does not give you any more strength, durability, better warranty, nothing. It is purely cosmetic. The plastic base offers the same strength needed as the old base but removed the potential for paint chipping. This may not happen for everyone, as in your case, but we have seen hundreds of Aerons come through our refurbishing department with paint chipped off the base. It doesn't look great. -Ryan
I’ve noticed you guys do gaming chairs occasionally. Do you guys have any plans to review the Razer Iskur? The lumbar mechanism looks very different and it’d be cool to see it compared to other gaming chairs and office chairs. Another chair that I think could be interesting to look at is the Secretlab NeueChair, very different compared to the rest of their chairs and fits the mold of a classic mesh office chair.
@@StardustLegacyFighter I was just more curious because of the uniqueness of the lumbar system of the Razer Iskur, never really considered getting a normal gaming chair. I’ve seen other reviews of it but think it’d be interesting to see their take on the design and functionality.
Gaming chairs are a gimmick. I say this as I sit at my PC typing this comment while sitting in a Vertagear gaming chair 🤣. I loved it at first, but after having it for 3-4 years, it's showing its age and why people don't recommend gaming chairs. Don't fall for the marketing hype like I did. In my case with the Vertagear SL2000, after about 3-4 years, the seat pan foam is hard AF, there's no real lumbar support (as compared to a true ergonomic office chair), the arm rests are hard plastic with little-to-no adjustment, and the headrest "pillow" (in quotes because I use the term pillow very loosely in this case) is hard and not in the exact right position for me and my body type/size. The only reason I still have it is because I can't make up my mind on which true ergonomic office chair I want, lmao.
I tried the embody, and it really felt cheaply made compared to the aeron. The only comparable one is the Mirra 2, which is imo better in every way, if only the arm rests weren't shit.
That's debatable, because the only ppl who dislike the Aeron are ppl who generally hate mesh chairs. For most ppl, the Leap V2 and Aeron are top tier and I wouldn't say the margin is noticeable at all, since they both have tradeoffs.
@ Thomas Um, no. Ive owned a Leap and Aeron. Aeron is noticeably better. They are not close. Now the Steelcase Gesture would be more of a fair comparison.
@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 It's pretty subjective, so I really hate when ppl go around claiming one is much better than the other. The simple fact is that you find it better than the others, but your opinion is not ubiquitous. I mean "you" in a general way, I'm not directing it towards anyone in particular.
You can't get the same durability from plastic as you can from metal, regardless of 'technical advances'. That is nonsense marketing; the reason it's done is it is cheaper and it weighs a bit less. That's it, it's not a quality decision.
@@trollzone1 You might be looking at a smaller market, I'm talking about the global one. The Embody is so unpopular in some places that Herman Miller have stopped selling them entirely. Check out the UK, they don't sell regular Embody chairs over there anymore, only the slightly worse and overpriced gaming version. The Aeron is much more popular and is still the best selling office chair worldwide, the resale value is incredible.
@@trollzone1 I'm talking about the rest of the world, which not only dwarfs the US in terms of population but also market size. No idea how you came to conclusion that the US market is larger than all other global regions combined lol. Also, it really doesn't matter how things go in the US, in case you haven't noticed there are plenty of ppl from other countries who buy Herman Miller office chairs. I just gave an example about the UK, I didn't say it's larger or more significant than the US market lol.
Not only NO but He** No. I have an Aeron Classic chair, I would never buy another one they are way over priced thus the value isn't there. I might consider rebuilding my 13 year old chair? In my old age I have come to find this chair is not very comfortable.
Don't get the old Aeron! The aluminum base makes an ANNOYING sound all the time, it reverberates every single movement, when you sit down you hear a muted clank sound, when you stand up... same thing. I would much prefer the plastic base
@@StardustLegacyFighter Mainly the old base being aluminum vs the new base being plastic. A few cents for the plastic base and probably several dollars (tens of dollars?) for the aluminum base.
@@R2robot Do you have any idea how what plastics are being used on the new base? They're not some cheap ass plastic you see on low quality chairs, it's a composite material that's more durable than aluminium and less prone to scratches. As someone who owns the remastered, the materials used are all premium.
@@StardustLegacyFighter That sounds like it was taken straight from the marketing material. If you want to believe that was the reasoning behind the switch, go for it. Meanwhile, I will wait for Rolex to release their new more durable and scratch resistant plastic watch case. Or Apple.
@@R2robot Except it wasn't lol, I've seen videos from independent people who have gone to extreme lengths to find out what each component of the remastered chair is made from. Yes, there's less aluminium used, but the material replacing it isn't some cheap Chinese made plastic. There is an Oynx ultra matte variant available that uses a metal base and you still have the polished aluminium base if you really want metal. So don't act like you know anything about this chair, when you're not even aware of the aforementioned info. As I've said before, I own the remastered Aeron and I highly doubt you've even used it, let alone have one in your own home.
Are you sure the base of the classic is alu? I found one last week, has some small issues. But the base is heavy as can be. Feels like cast iron to me.
It's a high quality aluminum powder coat base on the orig classics I have one and found it very rugged mine is in great shape and nearly 22 years old, regardless of the new plastic tech I would still rather have the aluminum base like on my classic and cant believe they use a plastic base on a $1700 dollar chair, seems like cheaping out to me, my chair is nice an heavy I would worry that a plastic base will crack pos at the caster points and or not grab the gas cylinder as tight and solid as the aluminum did the price should be less for a plastic base not more, they need to go back to aluminum in my opin if the ask is as high as it is now.
if you already have a good posture, this chair isn’t for you. after buying this chair for myself all it’s done is make my hips tilt forward dramatically while sitting in it. it forces you to tuck your tailbone into the chair to sit comfortably, i’ve researched why this is how it’s intended to be sat in and multiple people’ve complained about this. comments just say to “lean back” or “you’ll get used to it in a few months”. whole heartedly recommend to just go and buy a gaming chair or something man, I work from home as an editor and sit from around 10-16 hours a day either working or consuming media. never had ANY back problems until buying this chair. maybe it’s just my body can’t adjust but if you can relate in any way, the aeron remastered isn’t for you. TLDR: perfect posture already? you don’t need this chair, go buy a ~$300 office chair instead
+ if you like to tuck your legs in while you sit, you will not be able to do that with this chair. you’re going to have to learn that this chair is to be sat in at 90* angle at all times.
Gaming chairs suck, shouldn't ever listen to anyone who recommends them. Besides, there are so many great alternatives to the Aeron like the Mirra 2, Leap v2, Gesture, Amia. The Aeron isn't for everyone and that's perfectly fine, it doesn't make it a bad chair at all. Not recommending it to people who have good posture is nonsensical, as people who have good posture can easily lose it if they sit on the wrong office chairs.
Why are you actually lying in this video? What do you mean you can’t adjust the posture fit on the classic? YOU LITERALLY DONT HAVE THE CABLE INSTALLED?!? How are you going to incorrectly set something up and then complain about it? I literally have an Aeron classic with adjustable posture fit, you can buy kits online for $70-100 and it takes 30 min to install. Also the posture fit SL is trash in comparison to the one on the classic.
No it isn't, especially when you can pick up a refurbished one if you're that concerned about the price. Name any other chair that can compete with it that isn't from Steelcase or Haworth. Anyone who calls this chair overrated hasn't seen what the rest of the market looks like, I'd love to have these chairs at work lol.
@@StardustLegacyFighter I'm telling you man I've sat in this chair every day for months and not once did I ever think it was the best thing i've ever sat in. When I first started using it at work I didn't even realize it was a high end chair, because it didn't feel much different than other chairs. It's good, but its not this god tier level chair that everyone says. It's over hyped 100%.
@@samporcellato5125 I've sat on this chair for several months now and it's been amazing. What this chair is able to do is unique, no other office chair has a recline mechanism on the same level. I used to get back pain with my previous office chairs, and they started wearing down within a few months of use. You can call it overrated all you want, but millions of Aeron users would politely disagree with you. I think your expectation of what a God tier office chair should be is completely nonsensical, you're not being practical.
@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 Nah, it's definitely not average, but I can't put it above the Aeron or Gesture. All three of those chairs are great and they suit different people.
I reckon you just need the Atlas headrest with the Aeron or Embody, that should eliminate any neck and back pain you're getting. Seems like you've got too much pressure on your back and you're not able to distribute it.
@@StardustLegacyFighter aeron and embody killed my body bro they actually gave me pinched nerves. It really just comes down to the person and their body type.
We paid $1275 for the remastered about 4 years ago. We do not get free chairs from Herman Miller. We actually don’t work with them at all. The irony here is that we do sell the other chair in the video. How funny! -RB
yeah they dont get shit from HM hence the negative reviews they give them regularly where they criticize them for being ergonomic and not being able to have bad posture in them
Just picked up a fully loaded classic for $350. A fully loaded remaster after taxes and shipping is currently $2120. Was a no brainer!
A feature of the beautiful mesh that no one seems to mention is how easy it is to pass gas through it.
Lmao, that's an underrated point lol.
The main reason why this chair was invented :)
I like how it feels like like a trampoline.
So that everyone in office can smell your "gas", brilliant design
@Ahnestly reviews covers this
I was in this situation a few months ago. Having gone through every chair under the sun: Ikea > Padded Office Chair > Racing Chair > Mid-tier Ergonomic Chair. The Aeron was my last stop because I needed a chair with the best forward-tilt functionality on the market (which is what my lower back needed from the start!) Nevertheless the decision to buy a new remastered made the most sense to me: the improvements across the board in terms of technology and design make a world of difference as does the taut mesh - something you don't often get with a second hand Aeron because wear and tear has given the mesh more slack, which affects your overall comfort and performance in the chair.
From the bottom to the top :) -GK
Agreed with this journey, however I managed to grab a remastered Aeron for $600 from a 3rd party reseller which was pretty awesome!
A classic aeron, which I got used for 350, solved my back issues so despite all the shortcomings I feel I got a tremendous deal from it. I would only buy a remastered if I had more than enough disposable income
I had a classic and I did not like it, but I really like the Remastered. The slight differences make all the difference to me!
Thanks for sharing! -GK
What do you think is the most important difference that makes you like the remaster better?
@@alexworm1707 The more up-right sitting angle.
@@raytsh i have the remaster, just out of curiosity, thx!
Best comparison video that I could find. Thanks
thanks bro got the aeron c fully loaded. 2 week delivery. 20% off and free delivery...little costly but worth it work from home!
I have the remastered and the classic, I am absolutely in love with the remastered not so much with the classic. Being a bigger person with not too much meat at the rear end the classic actually hurts my butt after 2 hours of sitting while the remastered is comfortable for the whole day. Personally I think the remastered is light years ahead from the classic.
Strange, I have the classic and remastered and much prefer the classic.
Do you have the size C? Size C classic for me is comfortable, never hurts my butt. I weight 250lbs
@@LeadMuffinswrong
I just picked up an aeron classic for $50 locally. Ordered some refreshed parts such as the seat pad, arm padding, and replacing the lumbar as the old one was broken
Thanks for all of the chair info. Your previous videos have all been very useful as reminders of what I want and don't want in a chair, and it steered me back to getting another Aeron.
I saved $300 on my remastered by going to a local Herman Miller authorized dealer. The only downside is there's no 30-day return, but I had a Classic from 2000-2010, and I demoed the chair at their office, so I know what I'm getting into.
If you're not comfortable with the risk, buy direct from HM and pay the extra $300.
Another upside of going to a local dealer is also the ability to test drive chair fit and chair size. I'm on the borderline between B and C, and after sitting in both, I jumped at the C. I could also try out other Herman Miller chairs they had there, but the Aeron remastered really stood out to me as a task chair that also has good seat air flow. I'm kind of done with leather and memory foam. The seats get too hot for my comfort, and I hate it when my chair gets in the way of me getting things done.
Solid info. It's great to hear they wanted to help. Not all commercial dealers love people coming in for "just 1 chair" which is absurd IMO. But that is the world of furniture -GK
I wanted to buy used but they didn't have any in my area so I bought a new remastered C when they went on sale a few months ago. My first impressions was mixed, quality is still on point, but it dug into the back of my legs. I eventually realised this was because the built in desk is way too high so i used a bunch of knee pads as a foot riser and it fixed this. Since then comfort has been amazing
I have noticed a rattle where rear of the lower seats connects to the tilt mechanisms. But seems to just be part of the design.
I do wish it had a seat lock back as I use it at home and not the office so more of a mixed use case.
I got the classic refurbished, for 800, and really like it. If I had 1700 to spend I would’ve gotten the remastered. But I just spend 4.5k on my PC build and didn’t want to spend anything more then 800. Going from a dxracer to the classic is a night and day difference. The classic is so comfortable. I got the size C.
mind sharing your body weight and height? i was told by a seller than a 6"0 200-205 person can fit in a size B
@@lauwbreaker I’m 5’10 250, so a bit of a fatty, 6 foot and 200 should be fine for a B.
thanks for the tip! i still cant decide whether i'd want to go with used or new for the herman miller aeron @@xmateinc
@@lauwbreaker I got one refuribished from beverly hills chair, and its been great. The only problems I've had was the latch for the arms is always coming undone, and the screws for the seat pan have to be checked a coupe times a year. Mine started coming loose and I didn't even realize till the who seat pan almost fell out! nothing that wasn't super easy to fix though.
I bought a classic Aeron on Marketplace for 150$
That was my best grail of this year
Thank you for the review now I can make a purchase based on knowledge and know what I am looking for ..
Was considering pickup a refurbished classic one, but they didn't have any size c variants available in my area.
So I ended up getting a new remastered one, it's the best investment I've made so far.
Nice, how long have you been in it and what options did you go with? -GK
@@btodtv I've got the Onyx colour variant with all the adjustments and I got it delivered to me just over 2 weeks ago.
As I expected, it did initially give me some discomfort in my back, however it went away after a few days and now it feels super comfortable. I also don't get any leg pain using it unlike the Mirra 2, which was painful for my thighs as the seat pan was not wide enough and the mesh was not that flexible.
The forward tilt feature is a game changer for me, as I can actually use it when FPS gaming and still maintain an ergonomic position. I can also use it for work when I am writing code and need to lean forward.
I have the classic and you can ujust tension on posture fit
I really did not want there to be a big difference on the remastered but unfortunately there is quite a noticeable difference. If you can, save up a little more and go for the remastered.
My 2008 Aeron just failed after 15 years. The clip on the bottom of the shaft broke which revealed a cracked a bearing race. Replace the shaft and good to go for another 15!
Thank you so much fro such a good in-depth analysis
Swapping Aluminium for plastic is 100% a downgrade, this is such a durable chair with parts so vastly available you don't need a warranty.
Best option bar none is the fully loaded classic with Paddled arms and posture fit.
I got an apron from 2002 on a public surplus site for 20 bucks and all I needed to do was change out the gas cylinder
I bought Aeron Remastered 3 days ago for 36.600 TL in Turkey. Insane right :D I also have Embody.
Baller lifestyle lol
@@StardustLegacyFighter Not really, lol. If Google is right, that amount translates to 1500 bucks in US dollars.
It's weird they called it infinite tilt on the classic model. It's basically 5 or 6 positions. When you open you see a disk with a couple half moon shaped cutouts, these are the presets it can do
For weeks, I've been searching for an office chair for my new job and was looking at $1600 aerons, leaps, gestures, embodys, etc. I eventually settled for a $350 Tempurpedic 6450. Why?
Because I came to the realization that I hate my job and I might not be guaranteed to be WFH long enough to where a high-end chair will "pay for itself"
Smart decision, there's definitely no need to get an expensive office chair if you won't end up using it that much.
Before the whole covid-19 pandemic, I didn't have a job and only had a basic office chair. However, through the 2+ years I've WFH, I realised just how bad it was to use it for long work hours.
@@StardustLegacyFighter If you can get it second hand for under $1000 then it is worth it, even if you don't wfh. I really only sit down during the weekends to play 2-4 hours of video games but my posture is improving and it's extremely comfortable, but I'm probably the perfect size for the chair (5'10, 170 lbs)
Does the polished aluminium get scratched 🧐 , is the standard base better?
I am 6 foot 2 amd 290 pounds. I purchased an $1,800 full loaded model size C. I wanted to love it but it was AWFUL. The mesh is great the hydrolic movents are fantastic. The problem is that you need to fit the chair you CANT make the chair fit you. The huge problem is the frame. It's hard plastic and the front of my feet always feel the frame and in fact it's PAINFUL and it hurts. I tried for 2 weeks but finally could not stand it and sent it back. If you fit the chair it's probably fantastic but if you don't fit the chair it's Awful.
That's a bummer, I'd probably recommend the Leap v2 or Gesture.
What chair did you end up with
@j.m4a1 believe it or not I went to Staples and son and a $200 chair I fit perfectly in it and it's been amazing.
Well looks like the Aluminum base and infinite tilt mechanisms can be swapped easily so that's not bad.
I bought an new remastered Aaron at the start of the pandemic and it was not of the best purchases I made in the past couple years. Not to mention most authorized dealers can give you better pricing than the website.
Question. Is the posturefit SL included in the Fully Loaded chair or is this another addition? Thanks :)
I'd be happy to buy a refurbished Aeron from your company, but in 6+ months of looking it is always listed as "out of stock"---is there a way to be notified should the chair ever be back in stock? Thanks!
Hopeful to have a few hundred coming in at the end of the month. If you touch base with our sales team (sales at btod dot com) they can add you to our list -GK
Hey @BTODtv have you heared about Okamura chairs? What can you say about Okamura Contessa Seconda? Is it worth its price? Thanks
bought a new aeron from a dealer for $1,100 (with tax). it was $2,100 (with tax) from herman miller
Holy shit lol, that's a mammoth saving!
Killer deal for sure! -GK
The plastic literally scratches just as much as the aluminum frame
Be nice if I could switch out the seat pans and put a remastered seat pan in a classic chair. If you don’t sit in the classic just right you are right, you can feel that front pad under your legs, and its annoying. I find if I sit in it with my butt hitting the back, where the sear meets the back, that the front pad doesn’t annoy me.
Is there any difference in the quality of the mesh?
Would you say that the remastered version is of higher quality and less prone to tears and damages ?
The mesh on Aeron chairs has always been of the highest quality tbh.
If you want an Aeron chair you'd be crazy to pay four times for the remastered version. Buy four classics for the price of one. A no brainer x 4.
what size is that AERON?
Scratched paint is easier to fix then scratched plastic that's marked forever.
True, but the remastered Aeron only lacks a metal base, everything else is the same as the classic one.
Unless you're an animal, I can't think of a moment where you'd end up scratching it beyond repair.
But if it really pains you, the fully loaded remastered Aeron comes with a polished aluminium base.
Yes it costs more, but the Aeron honestly doesn't get any better than that from a functional and aesthetic point of view.
@@StardustLegacyFighter i have a remastered aeron, i use it in my homeoffice, and i have it for almost a year, and it already shows some marks in the plastic here and there.
Its marked on the base (where sometimes you bump it against furniture) and in the backrest, where you rest your back, right where the lower back ends and the mid back starts, on the vertices, wich is the part that gets closer to the table. I used to lower the armrests and tuck it in under the desk and right at that point its where it bumps onto the desk and the plastic there got whitish. Nothing major just some color change, so i stoped doing that and let the armrests level with the desk.
I don't like the polished parts, i think it cheapens the look a lot, thats cause of the widespread use of polished metal parts on cheap chinese chairs, unfortunately.
And I'm really careful with the chair, i try really hard to not bump it, and i dont rest my feet on the base. The plastic seems to be really prone to losing its color when it chafes against other materials the kind of "damage" that goes away when you rub some oily product.
I love the chair, but the plastic on my cheap chinese one is less prone to those kind of damages and i don't babysit it like i do my aeron.
I am new to the Aeron and would like to purchase one. I am a female, 5' 7, 180 lbs with a big butt, should I opt for a size B or C? Thanks for suggestions.
With those details only you will be able to find that out
What do you recommend up to $1000?
Need more info bro... Like your height, sitting preferences/behaviour, mesh or cushion, headrest or no headrest, pronounced lumbar support or little lumbar support, etc.
If you like the Aeron, you can get a used or refurbished one for under $1,000.
The classic chair in this video is more like a 800$ than a 300$ I think. I have the remastered in Onyx black. With the new black damper it looks sleek but the base should've been metal for this price point.
If you’re paying $800 for a classic Aeron I feel bad for you
@@iammessina Yeah exactly, at the price I could get a discounted Mirra 2 lol.
I agree a plastic base on something this costly is crazy I expect tip notch build in that class not a base that's used on a cheap staples chair plus I would think it can crack at the caster swivel joints seems like a pos failure point to me is this going to last? my clasic base is like new and its near 22 years old, and at this new higher price I would expect it to be a HQ aluminum powder coat base like on my classic if they want to modernize it a bit that's great but should still be made of aluminum not so type of plastic at $1700. Is the main frame even metal on these new Aerons no one really ever mentions it.
i'm in vietnam and i want to book your chair, please guide me, thanks
I’m so sorry, we don’t service your area. We appreciate the support! -GK
Hey guys I’m curious if you could ever do a review on the Nexvoo Nexchair. I’m interested in this chair because it apparently has health monitoring technology (heart rate, blood oxygen level, etc.) which sounds conceptually interesting, but I haven’t been able to find many reviews for it yet. Thanks!
Never heard of it, but it does seem like a perfect midrange option.
Thank you for sharing.
LOTS OF posts online saying their remastered breaking after a few months, def made me decide not to buy from hm. Seems lkike they are going cheap quality and still charging a premium lol
The Aeron Remastered is one of the highest quality chairs we have ever tested. -Ryan
The Remastered have many version that have alumnium base. That's why I don't think it is a trade off compare to Classic !
Interesting point.
So even at $1700 it's not 'fully loaded', you have to pay more to get an aluminium base?
@@isbestlizard It's a cosmetic feature and not something that counts as "fully loaded", I personally wouldn't bother with it unless you really want it.
@@isbestlizard Check out your local Authorized Dealers. They might offer better price than buying directly from HM. Here in France I can get alu base for 1500.
A lot of good points, BUT. I prefer the pad, and if the plastic base is "better" then why do they charge more for the metal base. Also, please know I have had mine for 16 years, the old version, and there is not a single chip or scratch on the aluminum base. It's a profit grab. The old version is an absolute steal at $300. Just add silicone wheels, the old and new wheels are terrible, relatively speaking. If you have the resources, the new chair is better, but not 6x better.
Because that is the higher end, polished aluminum base. They have always charged more for this upgrade, even when the painted aluminum base was standard. It is a cosmetic upgrade only. It does not give you any more strength, durability, better warranty, nothing. It is purely cosmetic. The plastic base offers the same strength needed as the old base but removed the potential for paint chipping. This may not happen for everyone, as in your case, but we have seen hundreds of Aerons come through our refurbishing department with paint chipped off the base. It doesn't look great. -Ryan
@10:41 loosen up arms and breaks it lol
I’ve noticed you guys do gaming chairs occasionally. Do you guys have any plans to review the Razer Iskur? The lumbar mechanism looks very different and it’d be cool to see it compared to other gaming chairs and office chairs.
Another chair that I think could be interesting to look at is the Secretlab NeueChair, very different compared to the rest of their chairs and fits the mold of a classic mesh office chair.
They don't recommend gaming chairs tbh and they've made a video explaining why you shouldn't waste your money buying one.
@@StardustLegacyFighter I was just more curious because of the uniqueness of the lumbar system of the Razer Iskur, never really considered getting a normal gaming chair. I’ve seen other reviews of it but think it’d be interesting to see their take on the design and functionality.
@@Nick_Astarita From what I've seen, it doesn't seem as adjustable as what office chairs provide.
Gaming chairs are a gimmick. I say this as I sit at my PC typing this comment while sitting in a Vertagear gaming chair 🤣. I loved it at first, but after having it for 3-4 years, it's showing its age and why people don't recommend gaming chairs. Don't fall for the marketing hype like I did.
In my case with the Vertagear SL2000, after about 3-4 years, the seat pan foam is hard AF, there's no real lumbar support (as compared to a true ergonomic office chair), the arm rests are hard plastic with little-to-no adjustment, and the headrest "pillow" (in quotes because I use the term pillow very loosely in this case) is hard and not in the exact right position for me and my body type/size.
The only reason I still have it is because I can't make up my mind on which true ergonomic office chair I want, lmao.
"I use a slide out tray" shows a non slide out tray desk lol
For $1,700 I’d rather get an embody over an aeron
Aeron is built better than the Embody and lasts way longer, but honestly you could get them cheaper with certain dealers.
I tried the embody, and it really felt cheaply made compared to the aeron. The only comparable one is the Mirra 2, which is imo better in every way, if only the arm rests weren't shit.
Leap V2 is still the best office chair by a decent margin but it’s nice that Herman Miller made an upgrade
That's debatable, because the only ppl who dislike the Aeron are ppl who generally hate mesh chairs. For most ppl, the Leap V2 and Aeron are top tier and I wouldn't say the margin is noticeable at all, since they both have tradeoffs.
@ Thomas
Um, no. Ive owned a Leap and Aeron. Aeron is noticeably better. They are not close. Now the Steelcase Gesture would be more of a fair comparison.
@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 It's pretty subjective, so I really hate when ppl go around claiming one is much better than the other. The simple fact is that you find it better than the others, but your opinion is not ubiquitous. I mean "you" in a general way, I'm not directing it towards anyone in particular.
No it's not bruh, they're on the same lvl imo.
leap v2 is terrible , i couldn’t even re sell it so i threw it out
You can't get the same durability from plastic as you can from metal, regardless of 'technical advances'. That is nonsense marketing; the reason it's done is it is cheaper and it weighs a bit less. That's it, it's not a quality decision.
Embody> Aeron. Yes, I said it. Embody also holds its value better…no idea why
But it doesn't tho, since you can't even find used Embody chairs outside of the USA, and the ones you do are worth less than the Aeron remastered.
@@StardustLegacyFighter that contradicts everything I’ve ever seen on used seating pricing.
@@trollzone1 You might be looking at a smaller market, I'm talking about the global one. The Embody is so unpopular in some places that Herman Miller have stopped selling them entirely. Check out the UK, they don't sell regular Embody chairs over there anymore, only the slightly worse and overpriced gaming version. The Aeron is much more popular and is still the best selling office chair worldwide, the resale value is incredible.
@@StardustLegacyFighter nah you’re talking about a smaller less significant market. I live in the USA
@@trollzone1 I'm talking about the rest of the world, which not only dwarfs the US in terms of population but also market size. No idea how you came to conclusion that the US market is larger than all other global regions combined lol. Also, it really doesn't matter how things go in the US, in case you haven't noticed there are plenty of ppl from other countries who buy Herman Miller office chairs. I just gave an example about the UK, I didn't say it's larger or more significant than the US market lol.
Not only NO but He** No. I have an Aeron Classic chair, I would never buy another one they are way over priced thus the value isn't there. I might consider rebuilding my 13 year old chair? In my old age I have come to find this chair is not very comfortable.
Don't get the old Aeron! The aluminum base makes an ANNOYING sound all the time, it reverberates every single movement, when you sit down you hear a muted clank sound, when you stand up... same thing. I would much prefer the plastic base
Tell that to the idiot complaining about Herman Miller cutting costs by changing the base from metal to plastic.
In my OOOOOOOOHHHHHHPINION is how it sounds.
Sounds like fewer or more limited features + cheaper materials for twice the price.
How are the materials cheaper? Unless, you've owned both versions, you can't comment on it based on something you've only seen and not actually used.
@@StardustLegacyFighter Mainly the old base being aluminum vs the new base being plastic. A few cents for the plastic base and probably several dollars (tens of dollars?) for the aluminum base.
@@R2robot Do you have any idea how what plastics are being used on the new base? They're not some cheap ass plastic you see on low quality chairs, it's a composite material that's more durable than aluminium and less prone to scratches. As someone who owns the remastered, the materials used are all premium.
@@StardustLegacyFighter That sounds like it was taken straight from the marketing material. If you want to believe that was the reasoning behind the switch, go for it. Meanwhile, I will wait for Rolex to release their new more durable and scratch resistant plastic watch case. Or Apple.
@@R2robot Except it wasn't lol, I've seen videos from independent people who have gone to extreme lengths to find out what each component of the remastered chair is made from.
Yes, there's less aluminium used, but the material replacing it isn't some cheap Chinese made plastic.
There is an Oynx ultra matte variant available that uses a metal base and you still have the polished aluminium base if you really want metal. So don't act like you know anything about this chair, when you're not even aware of the aforementioned info.
As I've said before, I own the remastered Aeron and I highly doubt you've even used it, let alone have one in your own home.
Or you can work at an office or hospital where they throw them out all the time and take it to security tag it out and off ya go I have 3 already xD
Are you sure the base of the classic is alu? I found one last week, has some small issues. But the base is heavy as can be. Feels like cast iron to me.
It's a high quality aluminum powder coat base on the orig classics I have one and found it very rugged mine is in great shape and nearly 22 years old, regardless of the new plastic tech I would still rather have the aluminum base like on my classic and cant believe they use a plastic base on a $1700 dollar chair, seems like cheaping out to me, my chair is nice an heavy I would worry that a plastic base will crack pos at the caster points and or not grab the gas cylinder as tight and solid as the aluminum did the price should be less for a plastic base not more, they need to go back to aluminum in my opin if the ask is as high as it is now.
chair makes the back of legs numb.
Herman Miller make really nice chairs.
@7:29 get 6 pack abs
Stop coping
if you already have a good posture, this chair isn’t for you. after buying this chair for myself all it’s done is make my hips tilt forward dramatically while sitting in it. it forces you to tuck your tailbone into the chair to sit comfortably, i’ve researched why this is how it’s intended to be sat in and multiple people’ve complained about this. comments just say to “lean back” or “you’ll get used to it in a few months”. whole heartedly recommend to just go and buy a gaming chair or something man, I work from home as an editor and sit from around 10-16 hours a day either working or consuming media. never had ANY back problems until buying this chair. maybe it’s just my body can’t adjust but if you can relate in any way, the aeron remastered isn’t for you.
TLDR: perfect posture already? you don’t need this chair, go buy a ~$300 office chair instead
+ if you like to tuck your legs in while you sit, you will not be able to do that with this chair. you’re going to have to learn that this chair is to be sat in at 90* angle at all times.
Gaming chairs suck, shouldn't ever listen to anyone who recommends them. Besides, there are so many great alternatives to the Aeron like the Mirra 2, Leap v2, Gesture, Amia. The Aeron isn't for everyone and that's perfectly fine, it doesn't make it a bad chair at all. Not recommending it to people who have good posture is nonsensical, as people who have good posture can easily lose it if they sit on the wrong office chairs.
@@anuphoto. It's not ergonomic to tuck your legs in, it just seems to me you don't really know anything about ergonomics.
Why are you actually lying in this video? What do you mean you can’t adjust the posture fit on the classic? YOU LITERALLY DONT HAVE THE CABLE INSTALLED?!? How are you going to incorrectly set something up and then complain about it? I literally have an Aeron classic with adjustable posture fit, you can buy kits online for $70-100 and it takes 30 min to install. Also the posture fit SL is trash in comparison to the one on the classic.
I use this chair at work. Definitely overrated.
No it isn't, especially when you can pick up a refurbished one if you're that concerned about the price. Name any other chair that can compete with it that isn't from Steelcase or Haworth. Anyone who calls this chair overrated hasn't seen what the rest of the market looks like, I'd love to have these chairs at work lol.
Lucky guy, wish I had these at work.
@@StardustLegacyFighter I'm telling you man I've sat in this chair every day for months and not once did I ever think it was the best thing i've ever sat in. When I first started using it at work I didn't even realize it was a high end chair, because it didn't feel much different than other chairs. It's good, but its not this god tier level chair that everyone says. It's over hyped 100%.
@@samporcellato5125 I've sat on this chair for several months now and it's been amazing. What this chair is able to do is unique, no other office chair has a recline mechanism on the same level.
I used to get back pain with my previous office chairs, and they started wearing down within a few months of use.
You can call it overrated all you want, but millions of Aeron users would politely disagree with you.
I think your expectation of what a God tier office chair should be is completely nonsensical, you're not being practical.
in terms of comfort it's overrated. it's the best ergonomic chair out there but you don't seem like you care about that
STEELCASE LEAP are great chairs.
Yeah, but this video isn't about them lol.
Leap is average at best.
@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 Nah, it's definitely not average, but I can't put it above the Aeron or Gesture. All three of those chairs are great and they suit different people.
The v2 is, the original one is ass.
Well, I’ve got news for you: here in Denmark we must pay $2.700,00 usd for an Aeron if it’s not on some ‘special offer’, so what are you crying about?
Who are you talking to'? You keep pasting this exact same comment on videos where nobody is crying about anything. -RB
no
I reckon you just need the Atlas headrest with the Aeron or Embody, that should eliminate any neck and back pain you're getting. Seems like you've got too much pressure on your back and you're not able to distribute it.
@@StardustLegacyFighter aeron and embody killed my body bro they actually gave me pinched nerves. It really just comes down to the person and their body type.
@@Dr.Smelly Well, that sucks dude. Have you tried Steelcase or Haworth chairs? Maybe you need something with a thicker padding.
@@Dr.Smelly Yikes that sounds really painful. I think you need to see a chiropractor dude.
@@StardustLegacyFighter ya I’ve tried both of those luckily my office has chairs that work for my back and they are only like $400
Basically the classic is dog shii compared to the remastered 💀
Total bologna. Aluminum is quality. Plastic is crap!
That’s your opinion but there are plenty of examples where plastic outperforms aluminum in a variety of applications. -Ryan
I''ve tried the remastered and I didn't feel any difference to pay almost 2k for a brand new chair. Sorry, but your review if full of crap!
Do you have a Classic?
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Congrats?
Wow
this is so swayed in one direction its not even funny. you enjoying that free remastered chair HM sent you buddy?
We paid $1275 for the remastered about 4 years ago. We do not get free chairs from Herman Miller. We actually don’t work with them at all. The irony here is that we do sell the other chair in the video. How funny! -RB
he's actually right lol this video is one sided because it's simply better
yeah they dont get shit from HM hence the negative reviews they give them regularly where they criticize them for being ergonomic and not being able to have bad posture in them