I was thinking same thing Scott my Nephew already had it apart before I could see and trace things. He is going to bring it to a friend's shop. I'll let you know what the out come is once he gets it fixed. Just wanted to thank you for your help and quick replies really appreciate your help
@@lukaszkoczen my guess is you’re going to have to splice your turn signal wiring from the harness to your turn signal wire in the light. It might work, it might not. To me it sounds like it may not be compatible but give it a shot and see if it works
Scott thank you for the quick reply I'm going to head over today to check it out again. So if I go with the black lead off meter to black wire. Then red lead off meter to blue wire I should see 12volts. And then leaving black wire grounded to meter and read brake light red/yell I should see 12 volts when brake pedal is compressed. Does that sound correct thanks for your help trying to getting him up and running for an event.
Nick Panhead yes that is correct. If you’re getting no reading again, I would start by checking the ground wire itself, since you have already checked the fuses.
Scott question about those three wires red/yell blue and black if you plug that back into your harness and put a meter or a test light shouldn't I get power to one of those wires. Key off I get nothing. Key on accessories I get nothing. Key on to start I get nothing. I'm trying to figure problem on my nephews 98 super glide. Wires under fender got frade from rubbing. So now he has no brake running light or headlight. But has a brake light. When you step on pedal. Shouldn't anyone of those 3 wires have power when key is in any two power positions. He has after market tail light on fender mite be a Harley. But only has two wires coming out black and red. All 4 fuses are good ignition is good. Not sure what problem may be. I wanted him to trace back from bottom of connector to see where each of those three wires go to. Scratching my head here don't know why he has no headlight or running tail light. Thank you Nick
Hey man great video. Have an 01 sportster took off a cat eye break light and wanted to replace it with a side mount. Cat eye only has 2 wires side mount has 4. Wires don't seem to carry enough juice. Any thoughts
Gary Ohanlon as far as the 4 wires go, my guess would be that that light probably can be used in a different application other than a side mount for a bike. It may also be used for something like a trailer light where they would be used in a pair. So for example, let’s say the 4 wires are black, red, green, and yellow. Black would be ground Red running Green brake and left turn signal Yellow brake and right turn signal So for the application on a motorcycle you would spice the green and yellow together and attach it to the brake wire on your harness. So it would essentially become a 3 wire set up. Hope this makes sense
thanks for the info it helps but i was wondering if youd happen to know what wires i needed to make sure are connected. from the front handle all the way back? my brother has the same bike and the guy he got it from did a piss poor job of bobbering it out and ruined most of the wiring so im trying to re wire it and im workig on the brake lights but not getting anywhere.
Josh Shirley I actually just made a video replacing the brake switch on my 08 fat bob. It shows the wires coming from the brake switch down your handle bars which will then connect to the harness in your frame back to the harness under your seat. I’m not sure if the colors are all the same but that’s where you need to start in order to break it all down. Good luck man, wiring is always a bitch 🤷🏻♂️
@@scottballz6284 thanks man I really appreciate it. It is definitely a bitch lol. I just watched your video. It does look like they are the same colors but my main problem is it's after market handle bar controls and colors are different from the oe. And for some reason inside the acter market harness for the controls one wire from the handlebar controls is spliced in to one wire to the ignition button. Was that way from the factory.
Josh Shirley that is probably your issue right there. If your brake switch are spliced in with your ignition the switch won’t get any power unless the starter relay is open.
I have a 2019 iron1200 wamted to remove my brake and tail lights from the 2 bullet style to the new LED all in one brake/running/turn signal light... my oem harnesses sre under my seat 3 wires blue, purple, and black on each side connected to each bullet light so now i have 6 wires and the aftermarket light has 5 wires 2 are yellow the L or R wires, a blk ground, red brake light wire, and green running light.... how do i connect this all just Have my 6 wires from the bike harness into these 5 wires or????
Hey Scott, hope you can help me. I have the exact same bike and I’m trying to install the original brake light, the thing is I get the running light, plate light but no break light, neither when I hit front or rear, could it be any switch? I’m getting a headache from this...
Pull your brake lever from the handle bars and push the switch in manually. See if you get any action there first. A lot of times your lever isn’t making contact with the switch. That’s the easiest place to start before you get the multi meter out and start tracing everything back, which is zero fun 😒
@@petewylde4985 ok good, so your front brake switch is the problem. Now hold in your brake switch in the front and press the rear brake pedal and see if you get anything. If not, that rear brake is most likely shot. I actually have a video of replacing the front brake switch on my channel also. It’s pretty simple really, just a few little things inside the housing you need to take note of. If the little nipple on the switch isn’t worn out like mine was then you may not even have to replace it. You may just have to realign your brake lever.
Yeah I left their already. I take that blue and go right to post I've on battery and headlight comes on. No tail light tho. I was just trying all different configuration but no luck.
Nick Panhead it sounds to me like the harness itself may be the problem. Try taking the brake running light and attaching it directly to the battery, if it lights up it’s most likely the harness itself
Hey bro. Running into this issue myself right now. 97 wg..just put a slightly wider tire and lowered the rear end..chewing up wires now.. is there an alternative route to run these wires if you want to keep your turn signals. I was thinking about trying to run them under the fender strut cover on both sides. What do you think?
Plenty of rigid frames (no suspension at all) have side mount tail and turn signs mounted without any problems. As long as the wiring is soldered, heat shrinked and properly secured, bumps and movement swing arm or rigid, it should last the life of the bike.
Yo Scott I have a question the blue domestic wire right, I have a 97 Sportster 1200c, from the front 3 blue go into 1 wire to circuit breaker but the circuit breaker has another blue light sticking out its short do you think it goes to tail light and how do i hook it up you think
On the circuit breaker on my 97 sportster 1200 c there's two blue wires on the light fuse that leads to the blinkers and headlight switch. The other blue wire in the manuel says it goes to the taillight, but I don't know where to connect it to, it's a running wire right
+George Rugamas if it is the same wire I showed in the video, under the seat, then yes it is a running light wire. It will be part of the harness that runs from your brake light and turn signals, through your fender, and into the compartment under your seat then clips into the main harness.
well here's the problem bro the taillight wires are Red,Green and White ,I don't know how to wire them I looked up online nothing,I wish I could send a picture my harness is a mess ,there no clips straight wire to wire,all this cause I couldn't figure out why my head light went out
the turn signals are black and violet wires and have there own wiring clips if I remember correctly. Then again, this was a while ago I made this video. I’m sure if you wanted to you could find the diagram on an HD forum if you needed it.
Dude I have a 2000 as well l, same setup except a two wire cat eye tail light. and have it hooked up red to red blue to black and have working run and brake lights without the ground.now I'm getting draw on the battery when he ignition is on. I can watch the drop in my volt meter and somehow is killing my battery. Everything was fine until I installed this two wire tail light. Please help, thanks
mark us that 2 wire system is whacky on some cat eyes, I just don’t think it’s compatible with this harness on its own. You can probably go in and re wire the light, if you want but You’re better off getting a 3 wire light that’s set up for this particular application.
Scott Ballz yeah I relocated the ignition switch over to the bottom bolt of the battery tray then ran a ground to where the rear foot peg used to be started the bike and the rear brake line that runs along the swing arm melted. The ignition mount was touching the rear brake light switch mount I don't know what the hell happened, I'm gonna find a 3 wire though
Nick Panhead the brake light is run off of a relay so that’s obviously grounded so I doubt the ground is your problem now. Check the wiring for your headlight. Your gonna have to trace it back
I was stuck on doing this conversion for 3 hours 🙃🙃 i kept getting the wires wrong! Thank you. Video helped out!
Stephen Cabrera glad it helped
I was thinking same thing Scott my Nephew already had it apart before I could see and trace things. He is going to bring it to a friend's shop. I'll let you know what the out come is once he gets it fixed. Just wanted to thank you for your help and quick replies really appreciate your help
Nice vid. perfect starting point for me as I'm switching my turn signals to the plate frame.
JuanderBro awesome man, glad I could help.
Thanks for the video it helped me out a lot for my 01 sporty
I'm trying to connect 4 wire trail led lights to my 2008 sportster where there 3 wires. Help.
What color are the 4 wires and what do they control?
@@scottballz6284 white- neutral
Yellow- turn signals
Red- brake light
Black- tail light
@@lukaszkoczen my guess is you’re going to have to splice your turn signal wiring from the harness to your turn signal wire in the light. It might work, it might not. To me it sounds like it may not be compatible but give it a shot and see if it works
I just ordered 13.5 shocks to raise my 04 sportster 1200 cause it was lowered and I kept shredding the rear tail light wiring harness.
Not a bad idea man.
Scott thank you for the quick reply I'm going to head over today to check it out again. So if I go with the black lead off meter to black wire. Then red lead off meter to blue wire I should see 12volts. And then leaving black wire grounded to meter and read brake light red/yell I should see 12 volts when brake pedal is compressed. Does that sound correct thanks for your help trying to getting him up and running for an event.
Nick Panhead yes that is correct. If you’re getting no reading again, I would start by checking the ground wire itself, since you have already checked the fuses.
Scott question about those three wires red/yell blue and black if you plug that back into your harness and put a meter or a test light shouldn't I get power to one of those wires. Key off I get nothing. Key on accessories I get nothing. Key on to start I get nothing. I'm trying to figure problem on my nephews 98 super glide. Wires under fender got frade from rubbing. So now he has no brake running light or headlight. But has a brake light. When you step on pedal. Shouldn't anyone of those 3 wires have power when key is in any two power positions. He has after market tail light on fender mite be a Harley. But only has two wires coming out black and red. All 4 fuses are good ignition is good. Not sure what problem may be. I wanted him to trace back from bottom of connector to see where each of those three wires go to. Scratching my head here don't know why he has no headlight or running tail light. Thank you Nick
Nick Panhead yes, you should be getting power to those wires but also remember that you will need to ground it, in order to get a reading.
Where can I find that pig tail? I have a 06 883 that some one butchered, trying to re run the rear wiring
I would check eBay or maybe jpcycles. Worse case scenario, I’m sure a dealership could source it for ya
Thanks helped me on my 02
Anthony Strazza my man!
Can you run 3 running brake light wire into the 1 main wire?
I’m not sure
Hey man great video.
Have an 01 sportster took off a cat eye break light and wanted to replace it with a side mount. Cat eye only has 2 wires side mount has 4. Wires don't seem to carry enough juice. Any thoughts
Gary Ohanlon did the cat eye you had before have brake and running? I’m confused how it would only have 2 wires if it had both
Gary Ohanlon as far as the 4 wires go, my guess would be that that light probably can be used in a different application other than a side mount for a bike. It may also be used for something like a trailer light where they would be used in a pair. So for example, let’s say the 4 wires are black, red, green, and yellow.
Black would be ground
Red running
Green brake and left turn signal
Yellow brake and right turn signal
So for the application on a motorcycle you would spice the green and yellow together and attach it to the brake wire on your harness. So it would essentially become a 3 wire set up. Hope this makes sense
Scott Ballz . Thanks for the reply. Sounds good man
thanks for the info it helps but i was wondering if youd happen to know what wires i needed to make sure are connected. from the front handle all the way back? my brother has the same bike and the guy he got it from did a piss poor job of bobbering it out and ruined most of the wiring so im trying to re wire it and im workig on the brake lights but not getting anywhere.
Josh Shirley I actually just made a video replacing the brake switch on my 08 fat bob. It shows the wires coming from the brake switch down your handle bars which will then connect to the harness in your frame back to the harness under your seat. I’m not sure if the colors are all the same but that’s where you need to start in order to break it all down. Good luck man, wiring is always a bitch 🤷🏻♂️
@@scottballz6284 thanks man I really appreciate it. It is definitely a bitch lol. I just watched your video. It does look like they are the same colors but my main problem is it's after market handle bar controls and colors are different from the oe. And for some reason inside the acter market harness for the controls one wire from the handlebar controls is spliced in to one wire to the ignition button. Was that way from the factory.
Josh Shirley if it’s spliced into an ignition wire I would assume it must be a ground wire.
@@scottballz6284 that was my thoughts as well but once i connect the wires the bike turns over. damn i hate electrical
Josh Shirley that is probably your issue right there. If your brake switch are spliced in with your ignition the switch won’t get any power unless the starter relay is open.
I have a 2019 iron1200 wamted to remove my brake and tail lights from the 2 bullet style to the new LED all in one brake/running/turn signal light... my oem harnesses sre under my seat 3 wires blue, purple, and black on each side connected to each bullet light so now i have 6 wires and the aftermarket light has 5 wires 2 are yellow the L or R wires, a blk ground, red brake light wire, and green running light.... how do i connect this all just Have my 6 wires from the bike harness into these 5 wires or????
Josh Contreras is the new all in one LED aftermarket or made by HD?
Hey Scott, hope you can help me. I have the exact same bike and I’m trying to install the original brake light, the thing is I get the running light, plate light but no break light, neither when I hit front or rear, could it be any switch? I’m getting a headache from this...
Pull your brake lever from the handle bars and push the switch in manually. See if you get any action there first. A lot of times your lever isn’t making contact with the switch. That’s the easiest place to start before you get the multi meter out and start tracing everything back, which is zero fun 😒
@@scottballz6284 it worked! Only with the front brake, still nothing with the rear though.
Thanks for the quick reply
@@petewylde4985 ok good, so your front brake switch is the problem. Now hold in your brake switch in the front and press the rear brake pedal and see if you get anything. If not, that rear brake is most likely shot. I actually have a video of replacing the front brake switch on my channel also. It’s pretty simple really, just a few little things inside the housing you need to take note of. If the little nipple on the switch isn’t worn out like mine was then you may not even have to replace it. You may just have to realign your brake lever.
Yeah I left their already. I take that blue and go right to post I've on battery and headlight comes on. No tail light tho. I was just trying all different configuration but no luck.
Nick Panhead it sounds to me like the harness itself may be the problem. Try taking the brake running light and attaching it directly to the battery, if it lights up it’s most likely the harness itself
Hey bro. Running into this issue myself right now. 97 wg..just put a slightly wider tire and lowered the rear end..chewing up wires now.. is there an alternative route to run these wires if you want to keep your turn signals. I was thinking about trying to run them under the fender strut cover on both sides. What do you think?
RCasperson that might work. Definitely can’t run them under the fender with that new set up you have
bigger shocks
Hey Scott I have a wiring question would you mind messaging on FB about it?
anybody know what that connector that he cut the wires is called? part # would be nice. thanks!
If it was me I would never mount any light on the swing arm all the bumps and movement will wear out the wiring! Thanks.
Plenty of rigid frames (no suspension at all) have side mount tail and turn signs mounted without any problems. As long as the wiring is soldered, heat shrinked and properly secured, bumps and movement swing arm or rigid, it should last the life of the bike.
Yo Scott I have a question the blue domestic wire right, I have a 97 Sportster 1200c, from the front 3 blue go into 1 wire to circuit breaker but the circuit breaker has another blue light sticking out its short do you think it goes to tail light and how do i hook it up you think
I'm having a hard time following what you are talking about. I need you to elaborate a little more.
On the circuit breaker on my 97 sportster 1200 c there's two blue wires on the light fuse that leads to the blinkers and headlight switch. The other blue wire in the manuel says it goes to the taillight, but I don't know where to connect it to, it's a running wire right
+George Rugamas if it is the same wire I showed in the video, under the seat, then yes it is a running light wire. It will be part of the harness that runs from your brake light and turn signals, through your fender, and into the compartment under your seat then clips into the main harness.
well here's the problem bro the taillight wires are Red,Green and White ,I don't know how to wire them I looked up online nothing,I wish I could send a picture my harness is a mess ,there no clips straight wire to wire,all this cause I couldn't figure out why my head light went out
So you're saying that you're tail light wires are red, green, and white and don't end up clipping into anything under the seat?
Isn’t the orange and brown the turn signals? Lol
the turn signals are black and violet wires and have there own wiring clips if I remember correctly. Then again, this was a while ago I made this video. I’m sure if you wanted to you could find the diagram on an HD forum if you needed it.
Dude I have a 2000 as well l, same setup except a two wire cat eye tail light. and have it hooked up red to red blue to black and have working run and brake lights without the ground.now I'm getting draw on the battery when he ignition is on. I can watch the drop in my volt meter and somehow is killing my battery. Everything was fine until I installed this two wire tail light. Please help, thanks
mark us it’s because you have a loose ground. You need to ground the light, otherwise your going to just keep drawing power
Scott Ballz thank-you for replying so quickly take care man
mark us that 2 wire system is whacky on some cat eyes, I just don’t think it’s compatible with this harness on its own. You can probably go in and re wire the light, if you want but You’re better off getting a 3 wire light that’s set up for this particular application.
Scott Ballz yeah I relocated the ignition switch over to the bottom bolt of the battery tray then ran a ground to where the rear foot peg used to be started the bike and the rear brake line that runs along the swing arm melted. The ignition mount was touching the rear brake light switch mount I don't know what the hell happened, I'm gonna find a 3 wire though
I sub'd to your channel when I get this figured out I'll do a walk around of the bike.
I tried all different ways I get no headlight or brake running light. I do get a brake light when I hit the brakes
Nick Panhead the brake light is run off of a relay so that’s obviously grounded so I doubt the ground is your problem now. Check the wiring for your headlight. Your gonna have to trace it back