What If Gogeta REPLACED Vegito In The Buu Saga?
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- What if Gogeta REPLACED Vegito In The BUU SAGA of Dragon Ball Z? Could Gogeta DEFEAT Buuhan? Would Gogeta be STRONGER than Vegito? How strong is Fusion in Dragon Ball Z? Laughingstock Media discusses that in this Dragon Ball What If video featuring the anime & manga!
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Every time vegito has fought he was under the impression that the fusion would last longer. During its initial use he thought it would last forever and against fused zamasu he thought he had an hour. Gogeta knows he has at most 30mins so he gets the job done in less
You are a smart person. I don't understand why people don't understand that.
Speedy G exactly and they act like getting absorbed by buuhan wasn’t his goal
@@illbadger2076 Yeah. They need to rewatch the fight so they can actually understand.
Gogeta can't afford to be as cocky as Vegtio because he only has 30 minutes to get his shit done and gtfo.
@@Prominexus gogeta and vegito has different personality
It wouldn’t make much of a difference buuhan would get his ass kicked
Agreed
Ruboert stallion I agree with that but vegito is more powerful than gogeta because the potara was said to be a stronger fusion.Also the potara doesn’t require goku to decrease his power to match vegeta.That means that vegito would be stronger.Also this is the reason why goku wanted to fuse with hurcule.
@@extremelegendsupreme4596 plues rivery boost
Extreme legend Supreme I’m sorry but they stated that they equal fusions
And gogeta is more serious and would kill buu
Short answer.
Vegito: Buuhan Gets his ass kicked.
Gogeta: Buuhan gets his ass kicked.
Yep lol
You should've said UTTERLY HUMILIATED
I think Buuhan actually gets murdered worse in this scenario because Gogeta knows he has a time limit. I think that's why in most situations Vegito is more laid back like Goku, but I think Gogeta would only be absorbed out of necessity. Even then, what's stopping him from not unfusing because the dance is more efficient energy wise? Super Saiyan 3 is an exception because that form drains so much energy by itself. This means that if he does it at the same timeline Goku and Vegeta would have way more energy left. I think it would still go to the same conclusion but with Goku and Vegeta coming out significantly less injured. I'd even go far as to say that Gogeta could also just trick Buuhan into absorbing him, and if he does defuse Goku and Vegeta don't have any real energy loss. It happened with Gotenks because he wasn't smart with his energy. With Gogeta I think the Vegeta is definitely dominant. He'd probably just go straight to Super Saiyan 1 or 2 and just kick Buuhan's ass worse than Broly then deal with them being absorbed.
Buuhan gets ass cheeks slapped like a prison bitch
Dylan Reed
That’s a good observation in regards to how laid back Vegito was during that fight, he though his fusion would last forever. Whereas every other fusion (Gogeta as well as Vegito when he fought Zamasu) he was actually trying because he knew his time was limited.
The more i look at the comments the more i realize that dragon ball fans dont pay attention to the anime, at all...
To be fair the Anime constantly contradicted the Manga, and the script makes it far worse. However, I do see your point.
Dude have you seen how much the naime contradict the manga so i would not blame them its worse considering some translations are bad An example is that some Spanish guides have better accurate translations then engilsh guides
In the manga Vegito raped zamasu. It wasn’t even a fight just a massacre
Right? I mean jeez.
@@Celerott the manga makes no sense at all and the manga isnt what got popular now is it? Toeis adaption made sense of alot of retarded things the manga never explained. If it wasnt for the hyperbolic time chamber moment with gohan in the anime i dont think anybody would agree with the senzu bean for cell bullshit.
Because of the fusion reborn movie we had to wait 24 years for Gogeta’s first canon appearance? worth it fusion reborn was awesome
Definition the best outcome/world and the best DBZ story progression, that lasted decades and influenced/brought our current situation with DBS: Broly.
Vegito and Gogeta are perfect like their two stories.
Thank god they made the film before Toriyama's own decisions. We wouldn't even have had Gogeta in any status.
Although Gogeta was always already canon by the fact that Goku and Vegeta speak about the dance-type fusion after entering Buu.
Gogeta just built different bruh he twist and twirl against Jenemba bruh
And he still made it look cool.
Gogeta would still fold Super Buu
@Pierre Buie II Folded him like a Pancake
@@Gtz_Abdii nah like a omelette
And broly . DID YOU SEE THAT 1080 KICK!?!?!
I’m sorry to burst everyone bubble, but Toriyama himself stated that Gogeta and Vegito are equal in power and two faces of the same coin.
So... yeah, Buu would still be owned easily.
When and where did he say that?
Your chatting shit fam
Gucci Guwop goku and vegeta are equal in base form
Gucci Guwop what ???????
Mui goku weaker than vegeta ?
Goku would tap vegeta and he would be koed
No contest
But their base forms are on the same lvl
@@prime7042 read what he said, "non mui goku"
We need a universe where Goku really did fuse with Hercule, and miraculously pulled off the W but now lives on as Gokule.
the fusion isnt permanent, so why would they live on as gokule
Scraya Bc it’s a what if,
@@schwazernebe
The fusion was permanent in Z, super just forgot about that and messed it up
@@hunterofdarkness8329 they didnt forget, they just changed the rules in super by stating that mortal peoples fusion wont be permanent, only for the kais
Two things everyone should remember:
Piccolo thought Gotenks couldn't go ssj from base fusions
Piccolo thought the saiyans needed to train in transformed states for transformed fusions
Conclusion: Piccolo does not understand fusion much, so Buu using his brains isn't worth it
but he did find out later on how that worked, and super buu saw it as well, so he should remember it.
@@wuffy8006 third note: just because piccolo saw how big an amp the boys got doesn't mean he knew how strong the adults would get, after all:
Piccolo did not see a real significant change in power between goten and trunks and was pondering why they didn't go ssj, but when gotenks made his grand re-entrance he was astonished how much stronger they were in reality. Even showcasing Super Saiyan 3 on top of it without us ever seeing either do it separately after the fact.
Common sense would indicate that Fusion is more exponential than linear, especially seeing how (generally) every saiyan on saiyan fusion we've seen has always had a base form drastically stronger than their fusees highest saiyan-related forms with their own perks.
But overall, the boys, despite being more experienced than Piccolo wouldn't be nearly as exposed to Fusions as Goku was in the afterlife. The same Goku that was planning on/considering to merge with Gohan and Vegeta (especially Vegeta) with the dance before-and-after learning about the Potara that were supposedly meant to keep them merged forever on top of not having a huge chance to backfire like the dance technique as seen with Skinny & Fat Gotenks.
It's more likely Buu didn't fully understand Fusion even with others' knowledge to pull from or believing the boost to be much smaller than we would inevitably see.
@@MegaMachiOnline
Like I could see buu not tapping into that knowledge in the heat of the moment, but buu saw the boys and their fusion. and the ssj power ups from base to ssj to ssj3.
He doesn't need piccolos brain to figure that out.
plus the boys being absorbed know how their fusion works and how strong they get.
And he should have felt how much power he lost from going from buutenks to buucolo.
plus goku demonstrated ssj1, 2 and 3 so even as fat buu he could understand the way ssj forms work.
But I think a good middle ground is that buu wasn't strategising, so much as he was in the moment and having fun, drunk on his power he got from gohan and his own unique majin powers.
@@wuffy8006 I already alluded to all of that with my ending statement whilst bringing up Goku's behind the scene knowledge of Fusion where he has seen multiple Metamorans perform Fusion, hence why his explanation has always been along the lines of "greater than the sum of its parts". A blatantly vague statement but a fine one since:
*It ultimately shouldn't matter how strong Buu, Gohan, Piccolo nor Goten & Trunks see Fusion, since their **_only_** frame of reference is Gotenks.*
Piccolo is constantly surprised by Gotenks and clearly thinks too narrow mindedly about these otherworldly Fusions compared to his own with Nail and Kami and _could_ contribute most of what he sees to the time chamber in tandem with his teachings (which Goten & Trunks *could* ref for their success).
Goten & Trunks think highly of Gotenks and are too full of themselves to think Goku & Vegeta's Fusion would acquire even bigger gains akin to how they thought they had Super Buu mad beat when in actuality he was just waiting for Gohan.
Gohan although impressed is just seeing it for the first time.
And Super Buu himself has only dealt with Gotenks on three separate occasions, being after Goku left, the time chamber and after escaping the time chamber. He too would have his own thoughts on how strong a Fusion would be, especially after fighting Goku & Vegeta before.
But what Buu ended up encountering was beyond his imagination compared to Goku whom after experiencing Potara is still confident in the Dance's abilities even though Vegito expressed his own shock at his incredible strength (likely the Vegeta in him expressed by Goku). It is pretty clear Goku has a better gauge on how strong a hypothetical Gogeta and Goku-x-Gohan Fusion with the Dance or Earrings would be to a Buutenks or Buuhan than Buu himself.
@@wuffy8006*Oh this is a side note but:* You most definitely can say Buu understood how much weaker he got from Buutenks to Buuiccolo since Piccolo's power hardly adds anything that Gohan couldn't get over, hence that desperate absorption while the dood's guard is down.
But that would only push that Buu is thinking about the difference between Goten & Trunks to Gotenks more linearly then applying it to Goku & Vegeta rather than rationalizing the difference between Gotenks pre-time chamber and post-time chamber from Piccolo's perspective as more exponential than linear in the grand scheme of things.
i love how everyone is like "gogeta is trash and will die and vegito could stomp him in base"
definitely seems very unbiased and very reasonable.
I feel like if the 2 were to fight i think Gogeta would win. The same reason goku beat vegeta in their first fight.
@@thebleachbartender1312 because he had numbers?
The Bleach Bartender because Krillin and Gohan would step in and jump Vegeta?
No one says that
That used to be true thats why. Though it has been retconned to them being of equal power
He uses soul punisher which remembers kills all the evil energy but leaves the good unharmed, seeing as how the demon boy was unscathed at the end of fusion reborn, thus having the soul punisher kill buu but leaving gohan, goten, trunks, piccolo and innocent buu alive
Buu: who are you?
*Gogeta just wipe him out from existence*
Gogeta: I’m Goge...oh.
"Damn it... I had 30 minutes of fusion time and I killed Buu in 30 seconds."
@@Prominexus more like 5
@@menkirdennis6686 You all dont pay attention to anime do you.What a shame it is
The moment broly and gogeta became Canon was the best moment in dragon ball history
Maybe Gogeta would realize dende is alive so maybe he would kill Buuhan while everyone is absorbed which would let them out or kill them and Dende and Gogeta would go to namek and wish everyone else back.
Or Gogeta uses Soul Punisher it eradicates Buuhan and let everyone else out seeing as no one in Buu was evil.
I think they probably would've finished the fight faster . At the time Gogeta would've had 30mins .
Vegito we thought was permanent..
Just the thought of there being a time limit may have influence on the outcome.
I was thinking the same thing. Vegito was told he had an hour last time. He would be smarter now.
Broly 4: back for more. Sounds interesting. FUND IT.
Please don't we don't need another shitty dbz broly movie
They already did a Broly 4 technically.
@@PatLund
Well it’s not part of the other 3 Broly movies but yee it is the 4th Broly movie.
@@themugger1959 We won't, it'll only be restricted to Super Dragonball Heroes anime shorts.
Vegito is that cocky fight that draws out his fights with his opponent
Gogeta is a mercenary, he shows up does the job and leaves
Wrong
@@TheBlackestShinobi how?
@@exaltedfalcheon1793 He only acted cocky against buu so he could save people
@@TheBlackestShinobi hmmm point.
@@exaltedfalcheon1793 you get it now?
Basically the same thing right? Gogeta would purposely get absorbed by Buu to free Gohan and co. unless the Stardust Breaker could also free them
Stardust breaker isnt canon
DA GREAT ONE it was in the Broly movie so it is
@@poppyedits69 Watch Dragon Ball Super Broly. That movie is cannon and the move is in the film so yes it is. You don't believe that the movie is cannon? In the beginning of the Moro arc which is IN THE MANGA! Broly and the movie was mentioned.
A panel of ssjb goku and vegeta jumping ssj Broly too
@@poppyedits69 it was in the broly movie
So we want to end the Buu Saga fast. Gogeta has more SWAG, more DRIP, and he gets the job done.
Gogeta wouldn't get the job done either, unless he's ok with killing Gohan, Piccolo, Trunks, and Goten
@@cruelchains To quote DBZA, 'Dragon Balls' . I mean, although I agree Gogeta would have probably resolved to the same idea, but he'd have done it faster than Vegito did. Hell maybe Vegito came up with the idea mid fight so for all we know Gogeta would just kill Buuhan. I can justify why Vegito took his time, since at the time, Potara was a permanent fusion. Gogeta wouldn't have that luxury to piece together that plan.
gogeta fought in a movie so you have to get the job done fast
@@cruelchains oh no we killed them just use the dragon balls
Jr. I mean gohan gets to finally meet king Kai plus they died in the end anyway
Gogeta would've also wrecked buuhan the same way vegito did
@Ruboert stallion it makes no sense why gogeta would lose to buuhan if vegito was able to wreck him.
@@EpicStyleGamerchannel if were talking dbz gogeta it's gg (soul punisher one shot) and if were talking dbs gogeta (he would also kill buu since goku was aware of the time limit.)
Baqir Zaidi the point is that he is supposed to stall not finish him...
They would’ve had less time if it was gogeta and gogeta would’ve beat buuhan different
dabster 27 lmao how
Gogeta would’ve been just as overwhelming, but with different pressure, their fighting styles are different
The more I read the comments...I realize 90% of "DBfans" have no idea what they're saying.
This video also makes no sense the title is "What if Gogeta REPLACED Vegito" not What if Gogeta replaced Vegito and the scenario was different too. So the story would go like this
THE SAME WAY
They wouldn't kill Buuhan because Gohan, Piccolo, Trunks, and Goten are inside of him, and lets just say Gogeta used Soul Punisher Buuhan wasn't PURE evil, only Kid Buu is pure evil, it would do damage, but not kill him. This is assuming that Gogeta can last as long as Vegito ofcourse. Gogeta can always last 30 minutes, however Vegito's time depends on his form and since his form isn't SSB he would last 50 min or a full hour.
Conclusion Vegito and Gogeta would have the same result
Wow someone with common sense that's rare.
@@zetokaiba5867 true words lmao
@TrainerblueTube all true, except the fact fusion lasts for 30 minutes only so they would have to wait for only thirty minutes and not an hour
@TrainerblueTube again that argument is sooo stupid, Vegito could kill Buuhan too and again Gogeta would not kill him because he's not pure evil, only kid Buu is the purest evil and Buu would have just scurried away and Gogeta's time would run out, also the video is called what if Gogeta replaced Vegito, not the scenario.
@TrainerblueTube also don't use wiki, anyone can write whatever they want and I'm not saying your wrong, but I'm just saying the title of the video makes no sense. So any other scenario wouldn't make sense if it's just replacing Vegito with Gogeta
The fight would've just have ended quickly and efficiently
Nothing would've changed since Vegito and Gogeta are the same being. They might have different moves that would allow them to finish off Buu very quickly but overall he wouldn't kill Buu right away because he knows his job is to save the others inside of Buu.. so once Gogeta traveled inside Buu's body, he would've defuse by then and nothing changed.. so no
Buu: "I am the strongest in the universe! Nobody is stronger than me!"
Gogeta: "Ok" _stardust breaker_
Buu: _demonic screaming_
*dies*
Gogeta: "Dang, I should've saved my friends and family first. Oh well, at least we got the dragon balls"
🤣🤣🤣
I think Gogeta would’ve just killed buuhan and wished everyone back
@Blossom Heta exactly Vegito would’ve been gone for the kill but he wanted to get the others out before he did
@Blossom Heta I think you didn't observed clearly In fusion reborn that after killing Super Janemba, the guy who became super Janemba returned back with no injuries
@@ctauheedpasha1527 basically soul punisher/stardush breaker
Robo Brolly: Target Kakarot, kill Kakarot, repeat word Kakarot.
Not enough Kakarot
SSG Kyasu: "Every Voice You Made Has An Echo Your Own Bad Energy Will Be Your Undoing!"
I think he would've actually killed Buuhan since they knew they had a time limit instead of Vegito being "permanent" and messing around
Watch the anime again please and learn why vegito didnt kill and why gogeta will also not kill buu.
@@DeletoMui vegito had a choice of either using the dragon ball to review his sons and piccolo or just let himself be absorbed to save them so he choose to get absorbed since he thought he could use dragon balls for other things since portara was permanent back then he didn't worry about the time limit however in gogeta's case he only has 30 min to act upon so I don't think he would wait around for buu to try to absorb him he'll just get things done since he is restricted by time
Including movies and specials who was the best tag team: Goku and Piccolo, Krillin and Piccolo, Krillin and Gohan, Goku and Vageta, Goten and Trunks, Android 17 and Android 18, or Goku, Frieza, and Android 17
Gohan and Piccolo
Goku and vegeta
Is this even a question
17 and 18, they even have a name for the duo.
Jk but when they fight as a team it's a pretty good team
Nothing would change. They have confirmed equal power levels
Except maybe Gogeta wouldn't plan to toy with Buu to get absorbed to save the victims. And instead would go for the kill.
@@UnwantedGhost1 no they have really similar personalities. The only reason Gogeta was so so serious and business first in the Janemba movie is because they ran out of time and had to end the movie.
There is _one_ thing potentially going for Potara Fusion. Have we ever gotten confirmation that the rival boost is something that exists for the Fusion Dance as well?
Bro you should talk about stuff from dragon ball. We all know once Tao pai pai got introduced , the series got dark. Few DB you tubers talks about it because most people are about ki blasts and destroying planets. Or talk mysteries about roshi drinking that divine water to life forever. Anyways good content 👍🏼
got dark? its implied early on that goku is the one responsible for killing gohan.
@@springheelzach812 nah maybe that shit was explicit.
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Let’s be honest gogeta actually gets the job done
Vegito had more time tho and idk if gogeta had enough time to taunt him like vegito did
KingBrown 15 thats the whole point of Gogeta. Straight to the point. Doesn’t need to break the spirit of a person by taunting, no playing around and just gets the job done as early as possible without wasting a second (setting aside his 30 seconds intro)
Kaizen Hudson lmao he did that in on fight lmao and it wasn’t even cannon. He toyed with broly not going ssjb at the start bruh. Vegito and gogeta are literally the same they if they were the same strength they would literally do the same thing bruh
Kaizen Hudson how tf is he gunna save the people that buu absorbed if he just kills him right away? Yall dont get that vegito was thinking ahead of buu tho whole time. But yall just think he just playing around with him for fun lmao
Excalibur yes bro i can tell in the comments there are very few amounts of people that actually pays attention to the anime lmao
I'm not sure but i think everything would go the same except for the fact that when Gogeta gets absorbed he doesn't defuse because Gotenks didn't defuse after being absorbed by Buu.
Everybody’s got a price, everybody’s gonna pay! Cause’ the Million Dollar Man always gets his way.
I don't know if he could of pulled it off. Old Kai wasn't sure if the fusion would last long enough to beat Kid Buu let alone Buuhan. Not to mention Vegeto was stalling til Buu absorbed him so he could rescue everyone Buu absorbed. I just don't think he'd do it if he didn't go in for a kill right away like he did in Fusion Reborn
Hm, Gogeta would've just killed him because he would've known that he was on a time limit. At this time, Goku thought that the potara was permanent which would explain why Vegito toyed with Super Buu and tried to go in and save the others.
I still believe they are the same in strenght (gogeta even say that to freezer in dbs broly movie) and it's a lot cooler, because vegito has the final kamehameha, and gogeta has the "special sphere" (i don't remember the name sorry).
And i think that on a battel vegito is good if they have to make a long fight, gogeta is for short one and get the job done, BUT with buu is another world, just because he has absorbed people, but goku and vegeta could resurrect them with the dragonballs.
So yeah, it's *cooler* to have both fusion at the same level
I believe a dragon ball game literally just did this what if.
Replaced vegetto with gogeta.
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Honestly there are two explanations:
The In-universe and the out-of-universe.
The out of Universe one is that Gogeta is going to win and then the rest of this arc will probably either go exactly the same OR Gogeta would just stomp Majin Buu and would kill Buu with a Stardust Breaker vaporizing him and saving everyone else too.
Or
In Universe where to be blunt....the Fusion dance wouldn't make that much of a difference. I mean if Base Vegetto can take on Gohan Buu I really, really doubt that Fusion Dance is 50x weaker than Potara. Even if it is he can still go Super Saiyan 2 and vaporize Buu again since Gogeta is more serious.
So honestly I just can't see it ending well for Buu.
And WHAT IF Gogeta's Stardust breaker stems from Goku's training in Yardrat, and is a form of forced spirit fission?
Toriyama does like to reuse older ideas..
This is a good question to be asking.
Damian Starks how? It would be the same thing except maybe they’d kill buu instantly
Jalal Karimov ok thanks for your opinion.
The rival boost makes the potara fusion better.
What If King Kai Knew The Fusion Dance And Teach It To Goku?
What If Goku Learned Fusion Early by SmugStick comes close.
It isn't King Kai, but the technique is learned early at that point.
Someone should do a timeline theory on this
Gogeta wouldve erased him with the soul punisher and kept those he absorbed alive. Easy win.
he wouldnt even need soul punisher
Vegito didn't need any gimmicks to wipe the floor with buuhan, he just didn't finish him cuz he's an idiot
Gogeta would've ERASED buu with his first attack. gogeta doesn't waste ANY time.
@@geeway5923 yeah I know this. But soul punisher erases evil so he wouldve done that and saved his friends in one go. So it doesnt matter.
I just realized, Gotenks is the original Ultra Ego.
Nothing would really change
Gogeta baits buuhan to absorb him
he unfuses
same thing happens
he would probably keep the barrier up. Gogeta is cautious.
@@limptoast It wouldn't matter if Gogeta kept the barrier up since he knew the fusion wouldn't be permanent
Going off of Gogetas fights from canon and non canon, I feel he’d kill Buu. He wants the threat to be totally eliminated. They can just wish the others back. That or Stardust Breaker
@@SonGoku-rf5wy He wouldnt risk killing everyone even if he can just wish them back besides goku ALREADY had the plan to get absorbed before he fused
Ali Hijazi he didn’t
Imo the difference would be the peraonalities of the two fusions. Save for GT Gogeta has always gone straight for the victory, while Vegito player around
Gogeta destroys Buuhan. He doesnt horse around as much as Vegito does.
No he'd get Absorbed too because that was their plan
@@Stickyz Exactly these guys bias towards gogeta don't understand what Vegito was trying to do
CHEESE BURGER FREDDY even with zamasu. They say “vegito didn’t finish zamasu” like he wasn’t half immortal or something lol
@@daddy3796 exactly lol
Stickyz GT that was because they thought the fusion would be permanent and it was a dumb plan anyway, only done so AT could defuse them. Realistically Vegito should have killed Buu and wished them all back, but that’s anti climatic and would have been permanent unless AT pulled something out of his ass like the dragon balls being able to defuse(like he did with supreme kai).
Unlike vegeto Gogeta is more like getting job done so i think he would right off kill buuhan
Broly Four: Back 4 More make it happen.
From what I've been seeing of Vegerot/Vegitto and Gogeta, Gogeta gets a slight power boost on top of the already existing Fusion Boost, where as Vegitto doesn't, due to the Kais not being rated big of fighters, since there's no point usually. I believe the quote that Metamoran is inferior is directly referring to time limits.
I feel that Gogeta and Vegito are pretty much even in strength, but due to time difference in each fusion I believe that Gogeta probably wouldn't have played around with Buuhan since he only has 30 minutes compared to Vegitos 1 hour. Gogeta may get serious and realize that time really isn't on his side so he'd eliminate buu faster.
I think gogeta dbz version is very series so the fight will be short like the janemba one. And I can’t imagine gogeta or vegito loosing
My answer before watching the video:
Depends
We know Vegito is either Goku's power multiplied by Vegeta's OR both powers combined with a huge multiplier
Now about Gogeta
He can be either the same thing as Vegito but with the disadvantage that Goku and Vegeta have to have the same powerlevel to fuse(meaning one has to reduce their Ki before fusing) which would make him just sightly weaker than Vegito, but strong enough to wreck Super Boo
OR
He could be just Goku + Vegeta, in which case Super Boo would easily crush him unless he caught the guy off guard with Stardust Breaker
In either case Gogeta would know about his time limit and Stardust Breaker would likely leave everyone inside Boo intact since what it does is to destroy evil as shown in the "non-canon" Janemba movie, with it destroying Janemba who was the evil of the other world but leaving the guy who was possessed by all that evil intact, and in the "canon" Broly movie where it didnt do shit to Broly and we know Broly is not evil despite his loss of control
So I think the most likely result would be S.B. being used and Super Boo being purified by it, leaving Good Boo on his place with Gohan & cia still absorbed inside him, then Gogeta would ask Good Boo to release his friends(probably with Mr Satan getting involved) and Boo would oblige
Goku and Vegeta are equals so that either or wouldn't need to reduce their powerlevel which is something obvious
I literally just thought of this,
@@masonjtn524 Goku and Vegeta are equals now that funny.
You know gogeta said "our two strengths aren't just added together they are significantly magnified"
@@TREE713
... I didnt?
I stated what I know about fusion and what I thought that would happen depending on how it works
My first point was that if they're equals Gogeta would destroy Super Boo
Then I explained the other options, like if Vegito were stronger then Gogeta could still use Stardust Breaker as a trump card but if he didnt then in that case Boo would win
There probably wouldn't be a Buu after that encounter, he savage asf
I feel gogeta is goku and vegetas serious side like vegito doesn't know instant transmission but gogeta does and in the movie they didn't mess around they nearly kill him at the end
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Well Gogeta might be to powerful for Super Buu to handle😀.
So was Vegito
Actually at that point in time Gogeta was weaker than vegito by guides and still vegito > gogeta
@@rainbow_vader when did he talk about comparing vegito with gogeta? We know vegito was too much for buy to handle. Gogeta would probably still be the same result.
@@BrkBreak yah but gogeta might time out before he gets the chance to do what vegito did
@@poppyedits69 its impossible to know what would have truly happened. What if gogeta threw a soul punisher and that released gohan and the others? What if he killed them? What if he defused?
WELL..mainly gogeta because the fusion dance wasn't timed in fusion reborn,and for patora if the strength is to high it would defuse,also the fact gogeta looked like he was holding back in fusion reborn,but you make more since
Vegito plays with his food.
Gogeta doesn't.
Another important difference is Hercule wouldn't have helped against Kid Buu, so they wouldn't be friends with him.
If Gogeta couldn't break Buu apart with the Stardust Destroyer (since Buu's abilities are magic-based while the Saiyans' are not), and they had to resort to the dragon balls, I don't see them wishing Fat Buu back, so he would be gone.
I kind of feel like Gogeta would have been more likely to just destroy Buuhan instead of trying to get absorbed. He seems more prone to straight kicking ass over planning. And I think Vegeta having to do a "moronic dance" would have something to do with that.
Pissed off Vegeta typically doesn't dick around, whereas Goku always seems to enjoy fighting and draws his fights out more than he needs too. This is why Vegeta's personality would be a little more present because the dance fusion has so much emphasis on "balance." Vegeta being pissed makes his personality "more powerful" than a more relaxed Goku. Who's also going to be more willing to go along for the ride since Vegeta actually caved and did the fusion dance. Almost as a thank you to Vegeta. So the no nonsense side of angry Vegeta would be the dominant portion of Gogeta's composite personality.
All that said and Vegeta, even pissed, can still be tricked into dragging a fight on. His arrogance gets in his way sometimes, causing him to lose. Which could easily be apart of Gogeta's personality.
The movie isn’t canon. They are the same person the vegeta personality would dominate
the whole SS3 Gotenks 5 minutes thing can be said because they just reached it and when they fought Buu i'm sure they fought longer than 10 Minutes and if we go with GT Rules than they would have (since Goku did know more about SS3 and thus had better control over it) 15 minutes since each SSJ state takes 5 minutes away by the whole 10 minutes thing from SS4 Gogeta
Did anyone actually notice that the source claiming that Vegito and Gogeta were equal wasn't written by Toriyama?
Wait so your telling me there not equal in power, welp time to write why ssj4 gogeta is stronger than both ssgss fusions
It was an official statement and it said they were equal as a trump card. Gogeta is stronger but Vegito lasts longer
Either that or they’re just equal as a whole
Kalipha actually it’s the opposite of what you said
@@omar11806 It was not an official statement. Toriyama didn't write it.
Good video man.
One thing I would add is that Goku was going to fuse with Gohan to beat Buutenks..
DBZ Chapter 307 Page 4 Panel 7
if Vegetto is supposed to be stronger than Gohkan, then the same should apply with the fusion dance imo. Therefore Gogeta should also be stronger than a hypothetical Gohkan (fusion dance).
Broly 4 back 4 more lolol, no.
let’s make a petition to rename dragon ball super broly to broly 4 back for more
i’m not sure about this. Boohan is a smart fighter and he seen how strong fusion was with Gotenks and fought him as a ssj3 and he himself says they couldn’t defeat him even if they fuse.
However, there is also that line from Goku saying they could defeat base super boo inside of boo if they fused.
i feel even a ssj Vegetto could easily defeat a hypothetical ssj3 Gogeta.
Actually super buu wasn't even in base when goku made that statement about fusing inside of him it was sometime before they found gohan and the rest
Buuhan is roughly 3x stronger than reg Super Buu. Doesn't really change much since he was going to try the dance with Gohan but got easygoing earrings instead since it was an urgent matter. Sooo
I think super Saiyan gogeta gogeta could get the job done if he doesn't screw around. Super Saiyan 3 gogeta hypothetical could for sure do it if he can Handel it in 5 mins if he defuses early.
@@tobygarton2574 gogeta and vegito are equal its already been confirmed
Don't go crazy bruh , ssj Vegito is kinda equal to gogeta ssj2 , maybe even equal to gogeta ssj3 , but stomp gogeta ssj3? , yeah hell no bruh
Hey I think they are even in power. Vegito might win because of his fusion time, but also has a weakness which is his earrings that you could take off. And Gogeta has a shorter time limit, but does not have earrings that can be taken off.
Gogeta, a hypothetical one in the Buu Saga would lose badly even if he went SSJ3. In the Buu Saga there is a scene where Goku teleports to Vegeta to ask him to fuse with him with Potora and as that is going on Buuhan is flying to them saying confidently "Another strong person's shown up! But they're no match for me even if they fuse!" This statement pretty much puts Buuhan above a hypothetical Buu Saga Gogeta because the only fusion Buu has seen up to this point was the dance fusion, so he knows the multiplier for it from Gotenks, WITH SSJ3 and he wasn't worried if Goku and Vegeta did it. Putting Buuhan above a hypothetical Buu Saga Gogeta. Some people may just call this arrogance but honestly, he has the brains of smart fighters like Piccolo so he should theoretically be able to know if he is above that or not. If he wasn't stronger than them fusing with that he wouldn't be so smug and would have had a different tone about the situation he was in. Probably going for the kill or absorption to stop them
i agree, however there is that line inside of boo where Goku says they could defeat base super boo as gogeta. IMO this is just ssj gogeta and boohan was like 3-4x super boo so a potential ssj3 gogeta might win.
Did this man really say buuhan > gogeta ssj3? 💀
@@hamza361 Just asking but how did you get that 3x?
Buu with Piccolo's perspective gives the pretense they'd have to first fuse in base then as ssj to unlock ssj despite being impressed by gotenks time and time again recall Piccolo thought Gotenks couldn't go ssj in the time chamber until he did + dbs broly makes it pretty clear base fusions far exceed ssj3 versions of their respective saiyans
@@spritvio639 super buu + gotenks > gohan
gohan > gotenks or super buu
super buu = gotenks
Glad ur back with a great video Mike hope to see more videos weekly
I think it works this way, Vegito with potara is addition of both Vegeta and Goku and full power while Gogeta or metamorin fusion is Goku and Vegeta matching their own power levels and multiplying which could work with super saiyan one or two. I'd think Gogeta is stronger because let's be honest Goku and Vegeta will want a strong fusion of Gogeta so they'll be equals when matching power level but at their best max power level while transforming or not
you should make a what if Goku and Gohan fused using the potara video
Normal Fusion like Piccolo or Gogeta is (A + B x 5 = C) or (1 + 1 = 2 x 5 = 10)
Vegito is (A + B x 50 = C) or (1 + 1 = 2 x 50 = 100)
Considering Vegito was more powerful than Gohan Buu, without being super saiyan.
This form is nerfed in super and power scaling in super is not as strict.
Fusion Reborn is canon to me. My them being in Other World is why Vegeta & Goku had all the time they needed since time works differently there against Janemba
So here's the thing about fusion. Both power levels have to match, fusion dance takes their powers and multiplies it, however potara takes all of their power completely and multiplies it regardless of them needing to lower power level.
Gogeta is a saiyan in the hood!
Great video
Couldn't Gogeta use Stardust Breaker to eliminate buu and rescue the others?
I feel like no one in the comment section has watched dbz so potara and fusion dance are equal potara might be a little stronger to the rivalry boost but it would not change much Gogeta would stomp Buuhan but would not get the job done because he doesn't want to kill Gohan, Picoolo, Gotenks like Vegito in the original and no Gogeta would not kill him because he is more serious like some people say and wish him back with the dragon balls if Vegito didn't then Gogeta wouldn't do it it's still Goku and Vegeta so Gogeta would not be smarter the outcome would probably be the same Gogeta would fuse and stomp Buuhan then Gogeta would get absorbed would drop his barrier like Vegito did in the original i think some people think he is stronger or smarter because he looks cooler they are still Goku and Vegeta Gogeta and Vegito are equal Vegito being a little stronger due to the rivalry boost idk if fusion dance has the rivalry boost but still if you don't know what the rivalry boost is read the manga and we don't know if stardust breaker would work also Vegito only played around with buu so he could get absorbed does no Dbz fan pay attention to the anime.
What if Goku remembered Forced spirit fission and went to yadrat so that if they mess up Pybara could just make them defuse earlier so it would take less time
Buuhan would actually be completely destroyed since gogeta doesn't mess around like vegito
Potara fusion is only permanent for kais, not mortals. They confirmed that in dragon ball super manga
The older supreme Kai says the potara fusion is made stronger because they do not like each other (mostly vegeta just dislikes Goku). I think that is why that fusion comes out more like Vegeta. The potara fusion is way stronger in my opinion because of the friction between the saiyans. The fusion dance is stronger if they like each other and work well together. For instance, goten and trunks.
You should do what if Gogeta fought merged zamasu
The exact same thing would’ve happened. Especially since the retcon that made gogeta=vegito. Even if you’re talking about before the retcon, it would’ve turned out the same way. Super gogeta would’ve pummeled buuhan, maybe not quite as bad, but he still would’ve whooped his ass, and would force buuhan to absorb gogeta then they defuse once inside
also he has the stardust breaker, so theoretically he can just kill buu while saving everyone else
@@shzammpatapon9865 yep.
Beforr looking on video: Gogeta will defeat him in 3 minutes, and then wait 27 minutes for defusing, the end.
Add in Namek Dragon balls at the end and if perfect
Seriously Gogeta would bodied Buuhan like it is a Monday because he dont play around.
The only true variable is if buu waits for them to learn the dance. If not rip if so the outcome doesn’t change.
Pretty much everyone recognizes it would be basically the same as Vegito vs Buuhan.
LMAO broly 4 back for more I'm dead
I thought of it as this. Gogeta gets the job done since he doesn't mess around. He kills Buu because he could just wish them back with the dragon balls. That's pretty much it.
Awesome upload mike I been on a marathon with you and dragonball nation all day on some podcast type shit lol
Vegito not cut from the same cloth Gogeta has 2 bodies janemba and almost broly till he got saved vegito never even caught a body he a whole mark in these streets whereas Gogeta a street mogul
"broly 4 back for more".
You're my favorite Dbztuber now.