The only actual creative transformation in the franchise. When I saw it as a kid I thought it made so much more sense that they'd tie in the saiyan monkey power into a controllable form. Regular SSJ feels a bit like a deus ex machina, even though it was awesome when it was debuted.
Yet that transformation didn’t have any unique abilities, technicalities, or even aura. That’s where the super forms shine the most despite the recolors
@@leultrainstinct406 Actually, the transformations did have unique abilities that Super ended up taking inspiration from. An example would be Super Saiyan 4’s ability to be unaffected by the dame technique after it was used once.
Because it has a shit ton of flaws. But it’s more the fact that it never improved over time so those flaws were permanent stains instead of just flaws overshadowed by redeeming qualities.
Damn that GT ending had me tearing up hard as a kid. I remember going on countless forums in the early days of the internet to try and find out where Goku went with Shenron. Good times lol
Yeah it was truly great. Super's ending meanwhile kinda felt lackluster. Instead of being an end to the first part of Super it felt more like a typical end of an arc with the only difference being that Frieza is alive however even that is disappointing since instead of giving Frieza something new and interesting character arc that follows on his development in ToP he just goes back to being an emperor with hige amounts of soldiers working for him despite it making no sense given that Frieza wiped out his army on earth with no care.
SSJ4 looks more like a "God Form" then the actual form given in Super. Honestly the more i look back at GT the more i like it. It has flaws sure but that applies to every Dragon Ball Series.
One important point I think that is often overlooked is that GT did not have anywhere near as many MASSIVE plot holes as Z did and it didn't completely overuse the same ideas again and again - Cell regenerating was ok, but then ramped it up to 500 in the Buu saga. Baby couldn't regenerate, he was just strong and Omega Shenron regenerated once! The fusion episode was absolutely terrific as well, the big bang kamehameha was just brilliant.
Baby is definitely one of my favorite villains in the whole Dragon Ball franchise. You really felt bad for him but his actions couldn't be justified either
or could they? is my response. in some aspects yes they could, i mean the saiyans friggin killed his entire race!! so to kill the son of the king who lead the siyans to do that is violently justifiable
@@clawy99 yes, but i meant the saiyans primarily, which is why i said in certain aspects not in general. heck he could even be considered a hero of sorts by the tuffles for example. this is why baby is such a unique villain there are various angles you could look at him from which could justify his actions and others not.
Let's remember the saiyan race was truely an oppressive race and goku and his clan were actually rare odd balls going against all his race ideals for centuries.... and freeza kind of forced the saiyan to do his dirty work as lord emporer freeza ruled galaxies... of course saiyan were bad guys. That's why goku was so cool. All that power and race history yet he chose to do good but still loved that fight. Best of both. Baby wanted to turn the tables. Revenge sure. But revenge helps no one. It wasn't justified. He just wanted to take out his rage on saiyan. But the wrong evil saiyan s already died out. And the good ones remained. He had no choice but to do it to carry out his plans. Still , baby was a legit villsin... great story arc.
Out all those reasons, that 90's animation aesthetic is my biggest one. I love the look of classic cel animation with it's color palette. It has texture and grit. I could forgive all the story decisions in super if it didn't have that glossy vector bold outline look. As shallow as it sounds.
I don't care if it's canon or not. Canon is not important to me, all i care is if something's entertaining. I love the exploration aspect, they had some very creative ideas. I like how the characters all look older and not exactly the same as in Z, like what Super did.
In some ways I really liked GT. I really hated the fact Goku was turned into a kid. Super Saiyan 4 is cooler than super saiyan blue and super saiyan god.
the funny thing about that is the pilaf gang used the black star dragon balls right? so couldn't they just gather the dragon balls or namekian dragon balls real quick and wish for goku to be an adult again? lol. plot armor. or wish to bring the black star dragon balls back to earth however idk if that wish is "beyond shenron or porunga's power"
.... I never thought I give gt ANY credit because it's absolute trash(just like super) but damn.... You're right ssj4 IS better than uLtrA iNStIncT ◉ _ʖ°... A concept which was literally the "power up" that Goku got on Kami's lookout in the Picollo Daimao arc....
Where is this Goten is a perv stuff coming from? He was dating that girl wasn’t he? Then again he’s also a teenage boy, so he’ll have that type of attitude, but to me he sure was a gentleman lmao 😂
I love the more comedic route the show took as well. Kid Goku being "kid napped" and other hilarity with the cast explaining Kid Goku is the grandfather.
I absolutely agree with all 10 of these points! In fact, I wouldn't lie when I said I like DB GT more than super for all of the reasons you just mentioned.
Ssg got that flaming aura, color change (kinda looks like kaioken), pupils change, skin turns more red along with their clothing. Ssb is just a ssj1 recolor but the eyes are the same color, god ki aura and That's it... Ssj4, great ape body, longer base form hair with the same hair color, red great ape fur, a tail, ssj3 pupils (changes color for a different person), (plus shirt gets obliterated off when they transform)
I liked the ideas behind Super Saiyan God. Red is always a great color (I'm looking at you, Gogeta!) and I loved how the form made him thinner; instead of relying on brute force and overt power like all of the other forms (SSJ4 included), it was smaller because Goku was tapping into God Ki and using an entirely different idea of power and strength. And then they went and just turned it all blue.
11 Great things about GT: 1. Serious tone compared to the god-awful of Super 2. Mature Vegeta 3. Mature Goku 4. Multiple interesting villains that aren't completely one-dimensional 5. Interesting different environments (planetary travel) 6. SS4 with fur 7. Great dramatic Quentin Tarantino-like moments 8. Feelings of desperation for certain battles (Baby, Shenron) 9. Seeing Goten grown up and moving on with life along with his older brother. 10. Expanding on the Hell-dimension 11. Expanded on the Saiyan lore with Baby and his bad blood from the Saiyan wars
1."Serious" yeah,Goku,Pan and Trunks being chased by an alien tiger is completely serious,the most iconic villains of the series being reduced to gag fodder is serious,GT was never serious outside of Baby Saga and Late Shadow Dragon Saga. 2.Boomer Vegeta* 3.He literally went to hell in order to fight strong guys leaving all his friends in danger and swims naked like in DB despite still having his adult memories,GT Goku is anything but mature. 4.Oh you mean the ones nobody remembers like all of the most of the Black Star DB villains and all of the Shadow Dragons except the Last 3. Literally every villain in GT is one-dimensional save for Baby. 5.If by "planetary travel" you mean literally just Pilaf Saga in space,then I agree. 7.There are no "dramatic" moments other than SS4 transformation so I don't know what you're talking about. 9."Expanding" but not in a good way.The only thing they did was including a tickling Machine and and Old lady with a freezer.Oh,I almost forgot rehashing Fusion Reborn and replacing Janemba with Super 17. 10.Aging up Goten did nothing at all,all he did was hanging out with a girl,beating some minors,being turned evil by Baby,trying to fight OMEGA Shenron and getting his ass beat. I'm not gonna say anything about 6,8 and 11.
I got into Dragonball in the mid 90s and found bootleg fansubbed GT tapes at a store in Queens, NY. I hadn't even watched the Buu saga yet, so it was so alien to me. I remember showing it to friends who were just getting into Dragonball and they were so impressed xD great memories. Will always love and defend GT.
Toei being one of the few corporations to let Dragon Ball end (story wise) with one last send-off is so underrated. Especially since Toriyama was the one that decided to continue it.
To me, a great merit of GT is how it conceives itself as the very last chapter of Dragon Ball. It doesn’t pretend to be a different thing like Super. It just considers Dragon Ball as the unified tale that it actually is (there’s no “DB” and “DBZ” in the manga) and wonders what the last chapter of that tale could be about. Things like Kid Goku and Ssj4 all fit into this, as well as the Dragon Balls being a prominent plot point again. The end, like in the stories of all great heroes, must resemble the beginning. The weird kid with a tale who once spent his days guarding a Dragon Ball, which represented his heart, completes his long journey, returns to his roots and is ready to depart forever, with that same Dragon Ball now one and the same with his heart. I mean, come on! I know, flawed execution and everything, but the concept is just near perfect.
I like they brought back the osaru form which was completely forgotten about. And like you stated the sense of adventure. Actually searching for the dragon balls again.
People didn't deem GT non canon because people disliked it, GT was deemed non canon because DBS became a thing, in fact GT was very much canon before DBS existed.
Dragon ball GT is definitely has some call moments and characteristics that Super didn't have but definitely had way too many misses that overshadowed that great parts of it. Super Sayian 4 is by far my favorite transformation in the whole series. It had a lot of opportunities but missed the marks so many times. Man I wish we can have SSJ4 back.
One other thing I like was the final universe spirit bomb. It basically gave purpose to the early and worst parts of GT where they had to make friends everywhere, and in more places than actually shown. A small piece that elevated the entire series, at least a little.
I rate this video a 10/10..good job. I've been saying the same thing. This series makes way more logical sense than Super. How is Roshi a million times stronger in Super when he clearly passed the torch in Dragon Ball? The continuity of DB Super is contradicting.
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I actually stupidly still love the English intro for GT.😂 And I love how Bra destroyed Vegeta’s confidence with his mustache. She may not be a fighter, but her words were strong enough to do damage.
SS4 has the most badass design, I love this much more than the rainbow SS we have now. Plus the ending man.... the ending with Dan Dan Kokoro Hikaretuku, man I remember getting so fucking emotional watching that ending.
My favourite reasons why each season was cool, despite many plots not executed better: Baby saga, the forms of super Baby combining the super saiyan power of Vegeta and Baby's mutation, Goku seen as SSJ4. Super 17 saga, the return of all the old villains. Shadow dragon saga, the character design of Omega-Shenron, Vegeta seen as SSJ4, Goku and Vegeta fusing into SSJ4 Gogeta
Things i liked: •how goku looked as ssj1 & 3 in his kid body •step into the grand tour song •baby saga •ssj4 •shadow dragons •goku grate ape transformation •ending song (blue velvet) •SSJ1 goku kamehameha on Super 17
I prefer Vegeta in GT over Super by a landslide. I really liked seeing him wear normal clothes in GT, unlike in Super where he has his Cell Saga armor. I feel like making him wear that armor in Super reverted some character development as he wore normal clothes in the Buu Saga since he became more human. And people will say that he only wore normal clothes because no armor is allowed in the tournament. But before and after the Tournament he's still wearing normal clothes
@Sun Wu-Entai 90 literally he was wearing normal clothes since he came to to stay in the earth but ppl forget about that and act like its somehow a progression to his character when he was wearing them when he was still evil plus in Super he wears normal clothes as well when he isn't fighting
@Sun Wu-Entai 90 well when Mecha Frieza came Bulma was washing his armor so he was forced to wear normal clothes. And I would say when Trunks went back to the Future at the end of Cell was when he started to transition to more of an Earthling, since he did say he wouldn't fight again after Goku died (which we all know was a lie)
i agree making the dragon balls into villains was a brilliant plot twist. they'd relied upon them for years & now they're paying the price. also 4 is the best thing ever & i continue to wait to see if & when super will finally adapt it.
Yes, SSJ4 makes way more sense! It looks dope as hell, highlights the power of their heritage (it creates clothes out of nothing but even that has precedents in the series), it's not a divine gift that is soon rendered useless and caught up even by mere earthlings...
One thing i forgot is that that Kami wanted Goku to be his replacement, the guardian or god of earth. And what happens at the end of GT? He becames the Guardian of the Dragon Balls. He takes responsability for using the Dragon Balls he and Bulma are the ones responsible for The dark dragons rampage but also as thanks to the dragon balls making all his journey possible. Maybe thats why it feels so fitting as an ending. Only thing missing is having an scene with bulma saying goodbye to her, or Bulma realizing something was off.
would love if they took the Baby saga and re-did it in the next super series. I find anything to do with Saiyan lore/history really interesting. a last remnant of the tuffles trying to kill goku vegeta and their kids would be a great smaller scale story after the crazy god/end of existence stuff in the last super series. would also love for them to get away from some of the god transformations and in bring in super saiyan 4. could re-vamp it and combine it with the golden ape form (basically super saiyan 4 with gold instead of red fur) and call it something like super saiyan primal
They screwed up not making ssj4 part of the Z universe after all this time. Now we're stuck with gods instead of apes. It's like they just made a weird turn.
darrius williams Baby&Goku Black execution were Decent both fell a bit in the second half & apart from the Goku Black Arc, DBS had litterally no story concepts
Vegeta in GT makes more sense than Super. In the end of Z Vegeta’s basically like “yeah I’m done chasing you Kakarot, whatever ig.” And Gt carries that out fully.. but right away we get Vegeta all like “I’m gonna be stronger than you Kakarot! *Saiyan Pride!”*
To further reinforce this, the Vegeta from most of Z and Super would never had done what GT Vegeta did to attain SSJ4; we would have been too prideful to use a machine to "assist" his way into it. Instead, GT Vegeta was much more pragmatic and realized that his pride wouldn't be worth much if everything was destroyed. Plus, he's even the one to suggest using fusion to beat Omega, which is something we'd never see with the Z or Super versions.
@@schemar17 bruh what😂 How does vegeta cheat to gey power? In contrast to goku, vegeta has always gotten stronger his own way: He didnt cheat to get SSJ He trained to get SSJ2 He trained to get SSGSSB without touching SSG And mastered SSGSSB. Gt he only got assistance only for SSJ4 Goku barely gets power on his own So quit ur BS
@@schemar17 the krillin thing was situational as if he didnt, they might have been screwed The majin thing, even vegeta said it himself was so he could fight goku without holding back. Being on earth for so long and having a family softened him up To fight goku at full strengh without holding back, he deliberately let babidi control his mind to bring back the darkness in his heart. The majin thing didnt even make him stronger lmao
I never liked that Goku was turned back into a kid for the entirety of the series. But I do completely agree with the Finale aspect of DBGT. That ending really stood out because of how realistic it was in conveying the fact that life goes on. That and SSJ4 are the best things about GT.
In a bit of a turn, I actually really like GT. I like the whole gimmick of Goku turning into a kid again, and the main cast. Although some may complain about the show, I really like it. Don’t even get me started on Dan Dan, but overall I really do like GT. Especially the ending, with Goku getting his 2 most iconic items, the power pole and flying nimbus, and flying off. I also really like how they implemented a Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. to end it all off. Overall GT, to me, was a good end to Dragon Ball, and overall had Good Arcs, with Baby and the Shadow Dragons. Although I’m not the best to talk about if a show is good, I love every Dragon Ball series, GT tried many risks, and I liked them.
I'm odd I like to think both are canon just in a different dimensions. As for the forms I like to think SS4 is the brawn based form and God forms ae the energy based forms.
Super Saiyan 4 always made me wonder what other transformations could be possible if Goku and Vegeta never lost their tails. Too bad that was never explored.
Super Saiyan 4 is a GEM of a transformation. Super was all like "Hey guys! Lets give the saiyans a transformation specifically meant for a saiyan with god ki for some reason!!" while GT went for a more primal route, making the most Saiyan-based transformation of them all. The personality change on Goku is probably my favorite thing about it, but the design alone is far better than Super Saiyan God, Blue, Blue Evolved, or "Rage". The only new form that I could put on SS4's level is Ultra Instinct. A fellow badass transformation, but in design I'd still have to give the point to SS4. This one is heavily biased though because I always disliked how Mastered Ultra Instinct made Goku's hair white, it never made any sense to me. Why does it turn your hair white when it's basically a universal transformation, and not all races have the same luscious locks that Goku has, and why does "moving without thinking about it" make you punch 1000x times harder?
I love that I grew up with the latin american dub and we got the original japanese music. No need to add a brand new soundtrack. And it had such a big impact with 90's kids that nowadays a lot of mexicans choose this intro theme to play at the entrance of their weddings. I feel in the US it didn't have a big of an impact because of the ok dubbing and changing the soundtrack altogether. It didn't have the same emotional punch.
My favorite thing about the Shadow Dragons was *how* the wishes impacted the Dragon Balls. It wasn't just making the wishes in itself, it seemed to draw from the idea of karma; since so many of the wishes made by the cast weren't overly selfish to varying degrees (although I think one could argue about that in the case of reviving their friends, both for selflessness and selfishness), negative karma was built up almost like a counterbalance. Unless I'm misremembering this, it's been a while. I probably am, and maybe giving it a bit more credit than is actually due. What's a Google? A search engine? Can I ride on it?
While it's cool that Vegeta accepted not being number one, it's a shame that came at the expense of him not really being useful in GT outside of unwittingly being the main villain of the first season.
Gt has and will always do everything for me. The ending even as an adult still gets me. Its a great series with a couple flaws but its overall fun to watch.
I liked how GT brought back and incorporated the giant ape form into its story, instead of acting like it never existed. The more I think about it, the more I realize I liked GT a lot more than super.
Totally agree with the Ape form And even if they didn’t bring the giant form they at least kept the lore with SS4. I don’t like how I’m super Ss3 has Goku having some ape features in the face then SSGOD is just base Goku with dyed hair
@@ATHTSupply SSG isn't that bad, it's thinner and skimmer, and just has an overall calmer aura, as God Ki is more refined than regular Ki. Super Saiyan Blue on the other hand is god awful.
David Larkin I always wondered why it took him until blue to mix kaioken with it. Why the idea to just go like SS3 and kaioken during boo never crossed his mind against like Kid Buu when he was pretty much out of options at the time and was fighting desperately. It could’ve easily Been a yellowish red/dark orange aura around him instead of the pink tone and blue lol... I know I’m being pretty hard but everything about supers transformations were pretty corny and felt like they were just tryna come up with things to generate sales. I mean not only is there SSB. There’s SSdarkBlue that Vegeta turns into making normal SSB Look teal lol
I honestly never really hated GT when I was younger and it was coming out and I had grown up on the Bruce Faulconer score era of DBZ, I never really loved it like I did Z but I still remember having fun watching a new episode every morning before school for like a year or two and I fucking loved the SSJ4 form from the budokai tenkaichi games already so seeing it in the show was sick as hell and I liked alot of the fights and the intense atmosphere with the end battles especially and the colors and atheistic it had were pretty nice. I still can't hold it in the same regard as Z but GT had its own qualities that are worth watching if you're a fan
I loved the adventure and exploration of the show. Though I did wish Trunks did a bit more fighting and used super saiyan but considering he’s not future trunks it makes more sense. One of my favorite things was the evil in the dragon balls and the consequences of using them too much. Because it was always oh someone died use the dragon balls and finding them wasn’t hard anymore because with the dragon radar and everyone’s power levels nothing on earth was a threat or hard to get to. The traveling to unknown planets throughout the galaxy changed that . But more importantly having consequences for the dragon balls made them interesting and not just a gimink
I only like 5 things about GT 1. Uub’s concept 2. Ssj4 3 Goten and Trunks actually aging (lookin’ at you Super) 4. Baby Vegeta 5. Seeing Kid Goku go Ssj1-3
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I somewhat like GT for the fact they added a transformation that didn’t just change hair
The only actual creative transformation in the franchise. When I saw it as a kid I thought it made so much more sense that they'd tie in the saiyan monkey power into a controllable form. Regular SSJ feels a bit like a deus ex machina, even though it was awesome when it was debuted.
Yet that transformation didn’t have any unique abilities, technicalities, or even aura.
That’s where the super forms shine the most despite the recolors
@@leultrainstinct406 Actually, the transformations did have unique abilities that Super ended up taking inspiration from. An example would be Super Saiyan 4’s ability to be unaffected by the dame technique after it was used once.
Goten and trunks actually grew up too...
@@leultrainstinct406 SSJ4 did actually if you count the x10 Kamehameha
I don’t get why GT gets so much hate. I loved GT as a kid and still do. Underrated imo.
Same
Truth
Because it has a shit ton of flaws. But it’s more the fact that it never improved over time so those flaws were permanent stains instead of just flaws overshadowed by redeeming qualities.
@@davidmccombs6187 so much this .. if a couple comments get a 1000+ likes watch all the sheep jump on board ! GT is way better than super
@@leultrainstinct406 Durr you like a show whose crowning achievement is a freaking blue recolor.
Damn that GT ending had me tearing up hard as a kid. I remember going on countless forums in the early days of the internet to try and find out where Goku went with Shenron. Good times lol
Yeah it was truly great. Super's ending meanwhile kinda felt lackluster. Instead of being an end to the first part of Super it felt more like a typical end of an arc with the only difference being that Frieza is alive however even that is disappointing since instead of giving Frieza something new and interesting character arc that follows on his development in ToP he just goes back to being an emperor with hige amounts of soldiers working for him despite it making no sense given that Frieza wiped out his army on earth with no care.
@@stefanradebach2889 super really didn't end it just went on a hiatus the manga is still continuing tho
if that had you tearing up dont watch the gt special about goku jr
Arunnejiro when I first saw it I didn’t know what to expect, I was crying the whole way through man shit hit harder then a punch from broly
I totally agree with the color theme. I always thought GT had a great palette
Macabre Productions To me, I felt like GT was a bit dark in color schemes at times, but still a good show in my opinion
Agreed, I can do without kid Goku's super dark tan though
I actually kinda like it
It’s shows a difference, that Goku has changed
@@Qwerty-qr3sk I don't lol
SSJ4 looks more like a "God Form" then the actual form given in Super. Honestly the more i look back at GT the more i like it. It has flaws sure but that applies to every Dragon Ball Series.
@@thecod2345 I feel like God was great in that aspect, but Blue should have been something more.
@@thecod2345 Excalty.
One important point I think that is often overlooked is that GT did not have anywhere near as many MASSIVE plot holes as Z did and it didn't completely overuse the same ideas again and again - Cell regenerating was ok, but then ramped it up to 500 in the Buu saga. Baby couldn't regenerate, he was just strong and Omega Shenron regenerated once!
The fusion episode was absolutely terrific as well, the big bang kamehameha was just brilliant.
@Kefla I couldn't agree more
@@davidlarkin1040 in my opinion, god was fucking cool, but blue was the lazy one.
Baby is definitely one of my favorite villains in the whole Dragon Ball franchise. You really felt bad for him but his actions couldn't be justified either
or could they? is my response. in some aspects yes they could, i mean the saiyans friggin killed his entire race!! so to kill the son of the king who lead the siyans to do that is violently justifiable
@@FlechFisher killing saiyans yes. but he enslaved humanity also, who were innocent in all of this.
@@clawy99 yes, but i meant the saiyans primarily, which is why i said in certain aspects not in general. heck he could even be considered a hero of sorts by the tuffles for example. this is why baby is such a unique villain there are various angles you could look at him from which could justify his actions and others not.
Let's remember the saiyan race was truely an oppressive race and goku and his clan were actually rare odd balls going against all his race ideals for centuries.... and freeza kind of forced the saiyan to do his dirty work as lord emporer freeza ruled galaxies... of course saiyan were bad guys. That's why goku was so cool. All that power and race history yet he chose to do good but still loved that fight. Best of both. Baby wanted to turn the tables. Revenge sure. But revenge helps no one. It wasn't justified. He just wanted to take out his rage on saiyan. But the wrong evil saiyan s already died out. And the good ones remained. He had no choice but to do it to carry out his plans. Still , baby was a legit villsin... great story arc.
Baby is right up there with cell and freeza and buu.
Out all those reasons, that 90's animation aesthetic is my biggest one. I love the look of classic cel animation with it's color palette. It has texture and grit. I could forgive all the story decisions in super if it didn't have that glossy vector bold outline look. As shallow as it sounds.
I don't care if it's canon or not. Canon is not important to me, all i care is if something's entertaining.
I love the exploration aspect, they had some very creative ideas. I like how the characters all look older and not exactly the same as in Z, like what Super did.
Totally agree, canon is practically irellavant at this point in the dragon ball series given there's like 3 with the movies, anime and manga.
In some ways I really liked GT. I really hated the fact Goku was turned into a kid. Super Saiyan 4 is cooler than super saiyan blue and super saiyan god.
Austin Humphrey the problem was they made Goku a kid for the whole series rather than just one part of it.
the funny thing about that is the pilaf gang used the black star dragon balls right? so couldn't they just gather the dragon balls or namekian dragon balls real quick and wish for goku to be an adult again? lol. plot armor. or wish to bring the black star dragon balls back to earth however idk if that wish is "beyond shenron or porunga's power"
MasterFalkner haha good point. They just needed something to get the story rolling I guess.
Ssj4 is better than Ultra Instinct
.... I never thought I give gt ANY credit because it's absolute trash(just like super) but damn.... You're right ssj4 IS better than uLtrA iNStIncT ◉ _ʖ°... A concept which was literally the "power up" that Goku got on Kami's lookout in the Picollo Daimao arc....
I thought GT expanded the lore in a great way. Baby, SSJ4, and the Evil Shenlongs, and the ending were the best parts of the series.
It did a better job of tying things together while referencing events from the previous series.
Yes! I could not agree more.
Where is this Goten is a perv stuff coming from? He was dating that girl wasn’t he? Then again he’s also a teenage boy, so he’ll have that type of attitude, but to me he sure was a gentleman lmao 😂
I agree.
I love the more comedic route the show took as well. Kid Goku being "kid napped" and other hilarity with the cast explaining Kid Goku is the grandfather.
Bruh I thought dragon ball gt English opening was hard 😂
same!
Have you seen gt in jappenesse?
Edward Jones yea like botn
The Japanese opening is iconic.
Step Into the Grand Tour hits just as hard as Rock the Dragon imo.
Damn Who cried on the ending of GT? Even now as a 24 yrs old I still cried f*ck
I absolutely agree with all 10 of these points! In fact, I wouldn't lie when I said I like DB GT more than super for all of the reasons you just mentioned.
I said the same thing ssb is just a color change which is boring, they should've used ss4
That'd piss off a bunch of super boys.
The original Super Sayain God transformation looked awesome, but the Blue form, looked lazy
Ssg got that flaming aura, color change (kinda looks like kaioken), pupils change, skin turns more red along with their clothing.
Ssb is just a ssj1 recolor but the eyes are the same color, god ki aura and That's it...
Ssj4, great ape body, longer base form hair with the same hair color, red great ape fur, a tail, ssj3 pupils (changes color for a different person), (plus shirt gets obliterated off when they transform)
SSG should've been called Saiyan God and SSGB should've been called Super Saiyan God.
I liked the ideas behind Super Saiyan God. Red is always a great color (I'm looking at you, Gogeta!) and I loved how the form made him thinner; instead of relying on brute force and overt power like all of the other forms (SSJ4 included), it was smaller because Goku was tapping into God Ki and using an entirely different idea of power and strength.
And then they went and just turned it all blue.
11 Great things about GT:
1. Serious tone compared to the god-awful of Super
2. Mature Vegeta
3. Mature Goku
4. Multiple interesting villains that aren't completely one-dimensional
5. Interesting different environments (planetary travel)
6. SS4 with fur
7. Great dramatic Quentin Tarantino-like moments
8. Feelings of desperation for certain battles (Baby, Shenron)
9. Seeing Goten grown up and moving on with life along with his older brother.
10. Expanding on the Hell-dimension
11. Expanded on the Saiyan lore with Baby and his bad blood from the Saiyan wars
1."Serious" yeah,Goku,Pan and Trunks being chased by an alien tiger is completely serious,the most iconic villains of the series being reduced to gag fodder is serious,GT was never serious outside of Baby Saga and Late Shadow Dragon Saga.
2.Boomer Vegeta*
3.He literally went to hell in order to fight strong guys leaving all his friends in danger and swims naked like in DB despite still having his adult memories,GT Goku is anything but mature.
4.Oh you mean the ones nobody remembers like all of the most of the Black Star DB villains and all of the Shadow Dragons except the Last 3.
Literally every villain in GT is one-dimensional save for Baby.
5.If by "planetary travel" you mean literally just Pilaf Saga in space,then I agree.
7.There are no "dramatic" moments other than SS4 transformation so I don't know what you're talking about.
9."Expanding" but not in a good way.The only thing they did was including a tickling Machine and and Old lady with a freezer.Oh,I almost forgot rehashing Fusion Reborn and replacing Janemba with Super 17.
10.Aging up Goten did nothing at all,all he did was hanging out with a girl,beating some minors,being turned evil by Baby,trying to fight OMEGA Shenron and getting his ass beat.
I'm not gonna say anything about 6,8 and 11.
@@cyan8814 Just no the things you are saying are not true.
It was also more emotional and even made a man cry just before ssj4 transformation
@@Top_E_Official he kinda is tho
I love GT and it was something that impacted me deeply so much so that it will be one of my favourite series
nice joke
@@themememanimbored3160 have you tried to watch it with a positive outlook
Lil rollo what joke?
@@themememanimbored3160
At least it's not a 10 year old fanfiction like super.
I got into Dragonball in the mid 90s and found bootleg fansubbed GT tapes at a store in Queens, NY. I hadn't even watched the Buu saga yet, so it was so alien to me. I remember showing it to friends who were just getting into Dragonball and they were so impressed xD great memories. Will always love and defend GT.
I loved SSJ4. They brought back the concept with Broly but I love the form’s aesthetic. For in line with the primal nature of the Saiyans.
Toei being one of the few corporations to let Dragon Ball end (story wise) with one last send-off is so underrated. Especially since Toriyama was the one that decided to continue it.
To me, a great merit of GT is how it conceives itself as the very last chapter of Dragon Ball. It doesn’t pretend to be a different thing like Super. It just considers Dragon Ball as the unified tale that it actually is (there’s no “DB” and “DBZ” in the manga) and wonders what the last chapter of that tale could be about. Things like Kid Goku and Ssj4 all fit into this, as well as the Dragon Balls being a prominent plot point again. The end, like in the stories of all great heroes, must resemble the beginning. The weird kid with a tale who once spent his days guarding a Dragon Ball, which represented his heart, completes his long journey, returns to his roots and is ready to depart forever, with that same Dragon Ball now one and the same with his heart.
I mean, come on! I know, flawed execution and everything, but the concept is just near perfect.
I like they brought back the osaru form which was completely forgotten about. And like you stated the sense of adventure. Actually searching for the dragon balls again.
GT is complicated. It's not true to say GT is either good or bad, because it's both! Great vid.
*Super Saiyan 4* Including the Villains: *Baby Vegeta* And *Shadow Dragons* Is the Best Thing About GT
GT ending had me so emotional as a kid I tried to move on to AF lol
People didn't deem GT non canon because people disliked it, GT was deemed non canon because DBS became a thing, in fact GT was very much canon before DBS existed.
So true
I pretend Super doesn't exist and that GT is the true ending
@@Anxmaly666
Same. GTs ending was the series conclusion for me.
@Anxmaly Same here i watch DBZ and GT while ignoring Super entirely
@@chadgrimes252 why? Super is made by akira like dbz is
Dragon ball GT is definitely has some call moments and characteristics that Super didn't have but definitely had way too many misses that overshadowed that great parts of it. Super Sayian 4 is by far my favorite transformation in the whole series. It had a lot of opportunities but missed the marks so many times. Man I wish we can have SSJ4 back.
Goten is a pervert? Why, because he's good with women?
One other thing I like was the final universe spirit bomb. It basically gave purpose to the early and worst parts of GT where they had to make friends everywhere, and in more places than actually shown. A small piece that elevated the entire series, at least a little.
One of the benefits of being a Canadian DBGT viewer was that I didn't have to hear "Welcome to the grand tour"
The English intro was hard af. And SSJ4 damn near is the true SSJ form, with the way vegeta explained it on namek back in the Frieza saga
I rate this video a 10/10..good job. I've been saying the same thing. This series makes way more logical sense than Super. How is Roshi a million times stronger in Super when he clearly passed the torch in Dragon Ball? The continuity of DB Super is contradicting.
I remember tearing up at holiday walking through the crowd with the video montage, a great ending. I’m still hoping we see Super Saiyan 4 against Moro
I dunno why everyone was so butthurt over GT, it was a great version of the story and had some of the best battles.
I loved GT so much that I bought the whole series!
I got both seasons of GT for Christmas years ago. Still watch it to this day
Should I buy it?
@@saiyanlives9872 Yes, plus the last saga feels like a proper ending to Goku's story.
@@Codex951 hmm ok I think I will pick it up, what else do u own?just curious
@@saiyanlives9872 Tenchi Muyo, Tenchi in Tokyo, Tenchi Universe, Saga of Tanya the Evil Season 1, Overlord Season 1, GATE, Konosuba Season 2, Gunslinger Girl, That Time I was Reincarnated as a Slime Season 1 & 2 (first half so far), and Origin Spirits of the Past. I'm saving up to buy more though, spend season 2 & 3 of Overlord, and the second half of Season 2 of Reincarnated as a slime.
What I love most about it was the theme song “bit by bit I’m falling” covered by Vic
Totally agree with the OST. I love the song don’t you see and blue velvet
Amazing 10 points to love about GT and no matter what I do I end up tearing up when anyone reviews or comments about GT's ending, thanks for this vid.
Couldn’t agree more. GT was FAR from perfect but the ending was great, evil dragons were awesome, and SS4 is my all time favorite form too.
I actually stupidly still love the English intro for GT.😂
And I love how Bra destroyed Vegeta’s confidence with his mustache. She may not be a fighter, but her words were strong enough to do damage.
*Shows GT Goku*
Dragonball Fighterz players: *PTSD flashbacks*
SS4 has the most badass design, I love this much more than the rainbow SS we have now. Plus the ending man.... the ending with Dan Dan Kokoro Hikaretuku, man I remember getting so fucking emotional watching that ending.
All of the licensed Japanese pop-rock was incredibly unfitting and yet absolutely beautiful and glorious.
I cried at the end of GT 😭
My favourite reasons why each season was cool, despite many plots not executed better:
Baby saga, the forms of super Baby combining the super saiyan power of Vegeta and Baby's mutation, Goku seen as SSJ4.
Super 17 saga, the return of all the old villains.
Shadow dragon saga, the character design of Omega-Shenron, Vegeta seen as SSJ4, Goku and Vegeta fusing into SSJ4 Gogeta
You'll shit bricks when you realize Goku and his wacky highschool adventures in Dragonball Evolution is essentially Goten's character in GT.
Things i liked:
•how goku looked as ssj1 & 3 in his kid body
•step into the grand tour song
•baby saga
•ssj4
•shadow dragons
•goku grate ape transformation
•ending song (blue velvet)
•SSJ1 goku kamehameha on Super 17
@꧁Omni Gito꧂ stfu
I remember buying GT VHS at Dollar General that had about 3 episodes on each tape. Watch them alllll the time
People who don't like GT are the same people that like dragon Ball heroes some how
Sun Wu-Entai 90 I just don’t like heroes but gt is decent
I prefer Vegeta in GT over Super by a landslide. I really liked seeing him wear normal clothes in GT, unlike in Super where he has his Cell Saga armor. I feel like making him wear that armor in Super reverted some character development as he wore normal clothes in the Buu Saga since he became more human. And people will say that he only wore normal clothes because no armor is allowed in the tournament. But before and after the Tournament he's still wearing normal clothes
@Sun Wu-Entai 90 literally he was wearing normal clothes since he came to to stay in the earth but ppl forget about that and act like its somehow a progression to his character when he was wearing them when he was still evil plus in Super he wears normal clothes as well when he isn't fighting
@Sun Wu-Entai 90 well when Mecha Frieza came Bulma was washing his armor so he was forced to wear normal clothes. And I would say when Trunks went back to the Future at the end of Cell was when he started to transition to more of an Earthling, since he did say he wouldn't fight again after Goku died (which we all know was a lie)
Everyone says GT is bad but if it was so bad, why is it still the best intro theme?
Gt is what made me a dragon ball fan so it has a special place in my heart.
There are more Good things about GT than Super.
When super made a bad move... it was a huge Bad move... eg. KEFLA etc.
yes! i keep telling ppl, but oh well, most are stupid kids who never saw gt and go by its bad rep
The only things I didn’t like about gt was obviously them Turing goku into a kid and the first arc
@@edwardjones1482 yes thats my main issue too, but hey at least gave goku a tail which allowed him to master ssj3 nd ultimatly attain ssj4
Y u hating on Kefla
@@lytnx5455, Always and Forever. Too much BS is complimented with that character.
I loved GT. Especially for anyone watching this 20+ years ago. Oh how that times have changed lol
i agree making the dragon balls into villains was a brilliant plot twist. they'd relied upon them for years & now they're paying the price. also 4 is the best thing ever & i continue to wait to see if & when super will finally adapt it.
Yes, SSJ4 makes way more sense! It looks dope as hell, highlights the power of their heritage (it creates clothes out of nothing but even that has precedents in the series), it's not a divine gift that is soon rendered useless and caught up even by mere earthlings...
Except for the part where a laser beam can give you the form...
One thing i forgot is that that Kami wanted Goku to be his replacement, the guardian or god of earth. And what happens at the end of GT? He becames the Guardian of the Dragon Balls. He takes responsability for using the Dragon Balls he and Bulma are the ones responsible for The dark dragons rampage but also as thanks to the dragon balls making all his journey possible. Maybe thats why it feels so fitting as an ending. Only thing missing is having an scene with bulma saying goodbye to her, or Bulma realizing something was off.
Dan Dan Kokoro was put into a rerelease of the GT Dub probably because of how many people disliked the rap song intro
would love if they took the Baby saga and re-did it in the next super series. I find anything to do with Saiyan lore/history really interesting. a last remnant of the tuffles trying to kill goku vegeta and their kids would be a great smaller scale story after the crazy god/end of existence stuff in the last super series. would also love for them to get away from some of the god transformations and in bring in super saiyan 4. could re-vamp it and combine it with the golden ape form (basically super saiyan 4 with gold instead of red fur) and call it something like super saiyan primal
Glad that you guys acknowledge the goods things about GT.
They screwed up not making ssj4 part of the Z universe after all this time. Now we're stuck with gods instead of apes. It's like they just made a weird turn.
Gt and super had really good concepts but the execution was the worst ever
darrius williams Baby&Goku Black execution were Decent both fell a bit in the second half & apart from the Goku Black Arc, DBS had litterally no story concepts
Agreed. GT had the best ending concept for the series. I don't think they'll think of a better one.
Vegeta in GT makes more sense than Super. In the end of Z Vegeta’s basically like “yeah I’m done chasing you Kakarot, whatever ig.” And Gt carries that out fully.. but right away we get Vegeta all like “I’m gonna be stronger than you Kakarot! *Saiyan Pride!”*
To further reinforce this, the Vegeta from most of Z and Super would never had done what GT Vegeta did to attain SSJ4; we would have been too prideful to use a machine to "assist" his way into it. Instead, GT Vegeta was much more pragmatic and realized that his pride wouldn't be worth much if everything was destroyed.
Plus, he's even the one to suggest using fusion to beat Omega, which is something we'd never see with the Z or Super versions.
@@Chimpbot wtf is your ass talking about? Vegeta always cheats to get power
@@schemar17 bruh what😂
How does vegeta cheat to gey power?
In contrast to goku, vegeta has always gotten stronger his own way:
He didnt cheat to get SSJ
He trained to get SSJ2
He trained to get SSGSSB without touching SSG
And mastered SSGSSB.
Gt he only got assistance only for SSJ4
Goku barely gets power on his own
So quit ur BS
@@hbshadow8981 😂😂😂😂😂
So he didn't cheat when he asked krillin to blast him? Or when he let babadi turn him into a majin
@@schemar17 the krillin thing was situational as if he didnt, they might have been screwed
The majin thing, even vegeta said it himself was so he could fight goku without holding back. Being on earth for so long and having a family softened him up
To fight goku at full strengh without holding back, he deliberately let babidi control his mind to bring back the darkness in his heart.
The majin thing didnt even make him stronger lmao
They need to remake GT the same way they rebooted Digimon Adventure 01
Great video And true The ending of gt make me cry everytime
Goku is a horrible father and husband. He abandoned his family his entire life and have never once felt bad about it.
I never liked that Goku was turned back into a kid for the entirety of the series. But I do completely agree with the Finale aspect of DBGT. That ending really stood out because of how realistic it was in conveying the fact that life goes on. That and SSJ4 are the best things about GT.
In a bit of a turn, I actually really like GT. I like the whole gimmick of Goku turning into a kid again, and the main cast. Although some may complain about the show, I really like it. Don’t even get me started on Dan Dan, but overall I really do like GT. Especially the ending, with Goku getting his 2 most iconic items, the power pole and flying nimbus, and flying off. I also really like how they implemented a Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. to end it all off. Overall GT, to me, was a good end to Dragon Ball, and overall had Good Arcs, with Baby and the Shadow Dragons. Although I’m not the best to talk about if a show is good, I love every Dragon Ball series, GT tried many risks, and I liked them.
here's something GT had another english opening that was a translation of the Japanese one sung by Vic Mignogna himself
very well put. loved this video
Great video.. I like when GT gets the props it deserves.
Baby is a legendary villain.
When you have this SS4 Goku, Baby, Super 17, etc how the hell do u hate GT? Oh wait "Its not cannon." Only Reason.
GT > Super
I'm odd I like to think both are canon just in a different dimensions.
As for the forms I like to think SS4 is the brawn based form and God forms ae the energy based forms.
Super Saiyan 4 always made me wonder what other transformations could be possible if Goku and Vegeta never lost their tails. Too bad that was never explored.
Super Saiyan 4 is a GEM of a transformation. Super was all like "Hey guys! Lets give the saiyans a transformation specifically meant for a saiyan with god ki for some reason!!" while GT went for a more primal route, making the most Saiyan-based transformation of them all. The personality change on Goku is probably my favorite thing about it, but the design alone is far better than Super Saiyan God, Blue, Blue Evolved, or "Rage". The only new form that I could put on SS4's level is Ultra Instinct. A fellow badass transformation, but in design I'd still have to give the point to SS4. This one is heavily biased though because I always disliked how Mastered Ultra Instinct made Goku's hair white, it never made any sense to me. Why does it turn your hair white when it's basically a universal transformation, and not all races have the same luscious locks that Goku has, and why does "moving without thinking about it" make you punch 1000x times harder?
I love that I grew up with the latin american dub and we got the original japanese music. No need to add a brand new soundtrack. And it had such a big impact with 90's kids that nowadays a lot of mexicans choose this intro theme to play at the entrance of their weddings. I feel in the US it didn't have a big of an impact because of the ok dubbing and changing the soundtrack altogether. It didn't have the same emotional punch.
My favorite thing about the Shadow Dragons was *how* the wishes impacted the Dragon Balls. It wasn't just making the wishes in itself, it seemed to draw from the idea of karma; since so many of the wishes made by the cast weren't overly selfish to varying degrees (although I think one could argue about that in the case of reviving their friends, both for selflessness and selfishness), negative karma was built up almost like a counterbalance.
Unless I'm misremembering this, it's been a while. I probably am, and maybe giving it a bit more credit than is actually due.
What's a Google? A search engine? Can I ride on it?
While it's cool that Vegeta accepted not being number one, it's a shame that came at the expense of him not really being useful in GT outside of unwittingly being the main villain of the first season.
Gt has and will always do everything for me. The ending even as an adult still gets me. Its a great series with a couple flaws but its overall fun to watch.
Not to mention it actually aged up Goten and Trunks. And it has an older Pan who is badass
I liked how GT brought back and incorporated the giant ape form into its story, instead of acting like it never existed.
The more I think about it, the more I realize I liked GT a lot more than super.
Totally agree with the Ape form
And even if they didn’t bring the giant form they at least kept the lore with SS4.
I don’t like how I’m super Ss3 has Goku having some ape features in the face then SSGOD is just base Goku with dyed hair
@@ATHTSupply SSG isn't that bad, it's thinner and skimmer, and just has an overall calmer aura, as God Ki is more refined than regular Ki. Super Saiyan Blue on the other hand is god awful.
David Larkin it’s just cheesy and cheap to me. Just a color change. To me The Who “God level” of power was pretty stupid to implement as a whole
@@ATHTSupply understandable. What's your opinion on SSB Kaioken X20?
David Larkin I always wondered why it took him until blue to mix kaioken with it. Why the idea to just go like SS3 and kaioken during boo never crossed his mind against like Kid Buu when he was pretty much out of options at the time and was fighting desperately. It could’ve easily Been a yellowish red/dark orange aura around him instead of the pink tone and blue lol... I know I’m being pretty hard but everything about supers transformations were pretty corny and felt like they were just tryna come up with things to generate sales. I mean not only is there SSB. There’s SSdarkBlue that Vegeta turns into making normal SSB Look teal lol
You didnt see the proper intro for GT DUB? They redid it when another Dub Studio did it and had made it more faithful!
Gt had a good soundtrack
I had the Japanese VhS bootlegs in 03... definitely felt more natural.
FBI: I'm going to have to stop you right there
@@Anxmaly666 lmfaooo
Thank you!!!!! DBGT HAD THE RIGHT STARTING continuing after DBZ
I honestly never really hated GT when I was younger and it was coming out and I had grown up on the Bruce Faulconer score era of DBZ, I never really loved it like I did Z but I still remember having fun watching a new episode every morning before school for like a year or two and I fucking loved the SSJ4 form from the budokai tenkaichi games already so seeing it in the show was sick as hell and I liked alot of the fights and the intense atmosphere with the end battles especially and the colors and atheistic it had were pretty nice. I still can't hold it in the same regard as Z but GT had its own qualities that are worth watching if you're a fan
Every interaction between Vegeta and Goten
future father in law and son in law! gotenxbra
Nova Shenron was the best! I wish they would've wished him back at the end of GT.
Goku going from a kid to an adult always gave me captain marvel vibes
I loved the adventure and exploration of the show. Though I did wish Trunks did a bit more fighting and used super saiyan but considering he’s not future trunks it makes more sense. One of my favorite things was the evil in the dragon balls and the consequences of using them too much. Because it was always oh someone died use the dragon balls and finding them wasn’t hard anymore because with the dragon radar and everyone’s power levels nothing on earth was a threat or hard to get to. The traveling to unknown planets throughout the galaxy changed that . But more importantly having consequences for the dragon balls made them interesting and not just a gimink
Getting rid of the Dragon balls makes the stakes higher
Yeah fr
I love the song it had
Ss4 is my favorite transformation with original super saiyan.
Ss2 and ss4 are awesome
@@Mojaveknight17 they are
Baby was awesome and the ssj4's!
Best ending as well!
Uh you missed the ending fight with omega the ENTIRE UNIVERSE added power to kill the dragon balls man, that was cool
Never understood why they gave Goku a tan but i like it lol
I like it's adventurous feel in the start.
Felt like a throwback to original dragon ball.
hahaha nice joke
@@themememanimbored3160 same to you hater who copies everyone else hating on it :)
@@themememanimbored3160 btw I don't need some internet hater to tell me what I should like or not so don't.
@@-Genki didn't tell u to just my thoughts on a mistake
I love the English intro!
I only like 5 things about GT
1. Uub’s concept
2. Ssj4
3 Goten and Trunks actually aging (lookin’ at you Super)
4. Baby Vegeta
5. Seeing Kid Goku go Ssj1-3