MAPPA Vs WITT studio | Which one is truly better?
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The WIT style just hit better for me. Especially how they did eyes, the sky, and the sea. Gorgeous. MAPPA is great, too, but WIT seems to edge them out just barely IMO.
You are foolish.
Mappa is awful and utter garbage.
Can't forget the thicker lining. The one on MAPPA looks like some kind of "Real G-Pen" that has edge scratches and seems like it's consistent thickness all around, while WITs would change between shadow and the actual line more.
@@deblxdee thats because Mappa was trying to replicate the manga style instead of creating a new one like wit did.
@@deblxdee I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean by that. I am an artist and studying WiT studio's style when creating AoT and I would love to hear how to draw just like them. WiT Studio's lighting is GORGEOUS
so far the only scene wit ruined with cgi was with colossal titan reveal.
Just imagine. MAPPA artstyle, strong contrast, WITT studio titans, and WITT's ODM gear. just imagine....
Fr man would have been great
Nah wit studio art style is better
@@machinegunkela7197 no, not at all. wit's aot looks like your average anime, only action scenes were remarkable, mappa is faithful to the manga and gives aot its unique look. i would like to see the first three seasons reanimated by mappa
@@randomannoyance u know nothing about animation if u are saying mappa is better and max. people gonna agree with so i don't care what u say lmao and I hope they remake s4 because mappa is kind mid tbh
@@machinegunkela7197 what do you know about animation? i'd rather watch the 24 minutes long movies that episode 2, 21 and 28 are than anything done by wit except for the Imai scenes, he carried them so hard.
also using "mid" shows enough about your intelligence so yeah idk what i can explain to you there
Honestly, I think WIT is perfect for seasons 1-3 and MAPPA is perfect for season 4. I think of it kind of like color grading. WIT feels more young and innocent to me and MAPPA style feels adult-like and stressful(in a good way)
Not that it's not fine to have an opinion on it. But Mappa's color grading and shading was abysmal. It makes all the character models look inconsistent half the time.
People keep using the excuse that "Mappa adapted the manga better, and really got the atmosphere right with it's style, colors, and shading" when it's simply because they have zero idea or comprehension of what "good" color and shading looks like, despite having just experienced 3 seasons of it.
In fact, if they adapted it with the current art style, but added much more contrast and color to their drawings, no one would have complained, and season 4 would've looked miles better objectively.
I still thoroughly enjoyed season 4, but i just can't get over how bad it looks at times, where it was absolutely avoidable.
@@Celeborn93 fair
@@Celeborn93 tbf ,and I'm not defending Mappa here or anything ,but the blu ray kinda fixes those issues......for the msot part
@@jacinto1477 Mhh, not in my experience. They tweaked a few drawings and some of the shadows on some drawings, but almost all (aside from a select few ) scenes have the same coloring/shading.
They also added and/or removed a lot of blurr and smoke vfx in some scenes. The most noticeable changes are the character model fixes, and some lighting on specific objects, such as thunder spears. And my biggest regret is how they changed the fleet getting destroyed by the rumbling, and added poor unrealistic explosions, when they had something that was super effective and realistic to begin with.. Can't get over that one.
But, there were a decent list of positive changes.. However the color scheme is exactly the same overall, but some of the lighting was improved/tweaked for some scenes.
Guys chill oh my god. Did we get the anime or not????
I personally think MAPPA was a good thing for season 4. WIT is better overall, but like MAPPA gave season 4 its own identity. It feels like a new show, because it really is. The entire world becomes expanded and more realistic. MAPPA's art style with less contrast actually depicts the realism of the show further in my opinion. But, I do think the coordinate scenes should have had more contrast in them. Imagine if Eren started the rumbling with glowing green eyes.
they say the fading of his eye colour was to show how he’s lost hope
I like WiT artstyle, I like the shading, color grading and thick line drawing, also the animation of odm gear and titan forms are good. It is so iconic.
Thiiiiis
A fair comparison is when both studios got same timeline treatment, both studios have skiled animators, and both are great, however I wouldn't say Mappa is shit in term of animation just because they had tight timelines, do we think wit will do season 4 justice with the same timelines, and especially tumbling scene?
@@anything....4486 nah I don’t think timeline matters, I’m just really not a fan of Mappa’s artstyle, their color grading is pale and their shading is not that good, and the scenes were blurry, they also rely too much in CGI which I’m not a fan of. I’m not really a fan of Mappa infact I drop some of their works like jjk, chainsaw massacre and God of high school.
@@LeviAckerman-nq6ywinteresting, for me their art style is great, it's different than WIT but I like it, guess everyone have different taste
@@anything....4486 Honestly I dont care too much about animation. Wit was cool, and so was mappa. But imo the way wit animated the colossal titan with those black lines in season 1 felt really off to me. I do love their odm animations tho.
It has to be WiT.
As an artist, WiT studio's animation, colour palette, lighting, textures, mixture of 2d and 3d scenery/backgrounds blended in with 2d animation works so well its unreal.
Anyone who has any understanding about animation and lighting seems to go with WIT.
The casual audience, for some reason, is afraid to admit the animation got worse in Season 4.
@Pedro_Le_Chef yeah but i feel like the character design is jusy way better with mappa or at least more faithful to isayama's artstyle
@@hml25Isayama was always a mediocre artist. The main attraction was the storytelling. Why is it better to stick to his depictions?
The versions of WITT all look better.
@@Pedro_Le_Chefmediocre 😂
WIT really captures the line “this world is cruel, but also beautiful” with their color/artstyle
Man watching this show since 2014 I wish they would have stuck with wit
Yeah but Wit would've probably done bad too considering Mappa only had 8 months. They need to stop pressuring these studios into releasing animes so dahn quick just so they don't lose hype for the anime and people need to stop accepting it because now instead of an awesome piece of art, we get weird looking 3d titans that look worse than the manga. Anime is literally becoming the current state of games at this point, they're overworking employees, not finishing/polishing animes and putting in minimum effort all because they can.
@@mergimvllasa7577 well now a part 3 part 1 and part 2 will come😂
Agree 👍
helllll no
@@mergimvllasa7577 the titans look just fine stop complaining bruh
I think MAPPA still did a great job despite WIT being a bit better. They work on way more projects at once and hat harder deadlines to hit. Respect
A bit...
Alot better
It was a lot better but that’s saying something since MAPPA IS AMAZING
@@amnakhan2975 If Mappa is amazing then Wit is a god.
@@kocetociparov1089 fr man
Another aspect I appreciate about the original, is the abundance of different facial shapes and features. Every character seemed to have a distinct facial feature. I find that MAPPA has kinda made everyone look the same by comparison, noses in particular.
Yeah because Mappa the characters look more like the manga. Isayama draws every character the same and he’s not such a good drawer in my opinion… he does have pretty good moments when he makes sick drawings tho
Annie’s nose
cuz WIT Studio simply has years and really take their time into AoT, while MAPPA had to adjust and adapt to the new different things, considering final season took part in the new time skip which means they have to make new character design that they have very limited amount of time, imagine animating big anime such as AoT, Final Season Part 1 with 16 eps only for 8-10 months
@@code_flxc2231 They had to make new character designs regardless of the chronology of the anime. That's what happens when a new studio takes over.
Look up "key animation book" of season 4. You'll see that their designs are intended the way they are, and they look pretty good. Too bad the way Mappa used shading and colors made EVERYTHING in season 4 look way worse than it had to. Like, where's the contrast.
@@Celeborn93 true, downside of MAPPA is just their lack of compositing, even tho their compositing in CSM, Vinland Saga & JJK movie are top tier, but Final Season Part 3 was a bit improved than the previous parts in terms of compositing, hoping MAPPA could improve their compositing more, taking WIT Studio as reference
I miss the original art style of AOT. The bold colors and the thick black outlines of the characters is what made the show stick out in the first place.
It’d be cool if mappa and wit could collaborate somehow on the final part of season 4. I wish I could see wits version of the rumbling.
i know right it would be sooo epic
That would be a dream come true
People seems to forget season 2 and season 3 cgi callosal titan, i would definitely be annoyed if the rumbling had that CGI quality
@anything....4486 the cgi was bad but not Berserk 2016 bad after watching it you'll be humbled as to what decent cgi looks like, that being said mappa definitely have better cgi than wit
@@yesnttnsey8581 I was replying to this sentence: " I wish I could see wits version of the rumbling", no I don't want to see WIT version.
Witt was more cleaner, smoother, and delivered on the big fights ALWAYS. Mappa has yet to deliver anything like Levi vs beast titan 1. Hands down Wit better.
"...b-but Mappa flat animation and PS3 titans fit muh season 4 dark themes better 😢"
Everyone knows season 1 and 2 were sunshine and rainbows. It was a kids show until Mappa came along.
Tbh I feel like MAPPA perfectly captures the darker season. With Wit, there would a be thick outline, a shine and lighter colors, with MAPPA you have a thin outline, lines in the shadows and darker colors
Sorry man but I still like WIT Studio. Still I respect your opinion 😊
I actually agree. It's like the first three seasons are the past. Everything is bright and full of hope but you get to s4 and it's the dark reality.
@@AtulKumar... I also like wit more
You see, the change from thick to thin outlines is a metaphor to how the line between good and evil becomes thinner as the show progresses.
for reasons, I have to specifically state that this is satire.
I'm with Wit studio all the way. I love what Mappa did, but it feels like a different show to me. It's kinda unfair to compare those scenes here 1:22 because this is where Mappa had to prove themselves. It was obvious that they would try to do it better. If it's other way around, Wit would do the same. I'm not a manga reader so for me it's not a big deal which studio did it closer to manga, but I just like Wit's character design better. Pixis now just doesn't look right, Levi looks chubbier.. Even Rainer and Bertholdt in flashbacks doesn't look good to me... don't know, maybe it's just because I only know them from earlier seasons.
True 2013vs2021？ 😏
Yeah, I agree with every point you made.
Each studio has a distinct artistic direction. WIT Studio opted for a captivating storybook aesthetic, evident in the character designs characterized by thick outlines and unique brushwork that sets it apart from other anime. Additionally, the color palette, textures, music, backgrounds, and the steampunk-inspired ODM Gear all contribute to a mesmerizing mid-century ambiance, resulting in an incredible visual experience. Conversely, MAPPA pursued a more subdued and somber atmosphere, employing unsaturated tones with hints of blue to achieve a modernized appearance. Additionally, they sought to infuse a sense of war, resulting in certain scenes featuring less visually pleasing elements such as the reddish gradient and the dust filter.
Regarding character design, WIT Studio employed minimal linework and emphasized the use of colors and shading.This approach not only facilitated a smoother animation workflow but also resulted in impressive animation quality. Furthermore, they skillfully incorporated complex camera work, adding a level of visual dynamism to certain scenes that left a lasting impression. On the other hand, MAPPA's character designs were meticulously detailed, enhancing their beauty but making the animation process more time-consuming and challenging. To meet the demanding eight-month deadline for the season, the studio made necessary compromises, such as utilizing CGI for the Titans and ODM Gear scenes, in order to expedite the workflow and ensure timely release of the season.
I honestly think Mappa's more mature style change was fitting for the Final Season. Everyone is older, we learn the hard truths of the world, and the ethical boundaries become a lot more grey. But overall I prefer Wit primarily for its preference for 2D animation.
I think Witt will always be better in comparison. Anyone that pays attention knows that Witt studio animation is smooth as hell, not a single bad panel. The same can be said with vinland saga, even with Mappa doing a great job, is not always smooth and clean as Witt and you see it.
Yeah, but there's a LOT of people who has zero feel or comprehension about animation in general. They think that the story objectively reflects the animation, and can't separate the two.
You'll see a whole bunch of people commenting how season 4 fits the manga better, and the tone of that part of the manga. Which it.. doesn't. It just looks a bit darker, and super unclean. It has atrocious coloring/shading & contrast.
Wit had been slowly changing their own lines, colors and overall art style to adapt the tone of the story throughout season 1-3. Just look at season 1 vs season 3, it's night and day.
And it would've been so interesting to see how much they would change it if they animated season 4. Definitely my biggest regret about this great series.
But i still enjoyed the season 4 we got.
i prefer wit in seasons 1-3 and mappa in season 4 both because their style fits the tone change evenly. if wit animated s4 it would look stupid, and vice versa if mappa animated season 1-3. and the 'not a single bad panel' is just not true and that goes for all studios. there definitely are a lot, a noticeable one is the armoured titan fighting eren in shiganshina. he looks very goofy.
Love all seasons but I like the OG seasons no 3D but new is nice
Way prefer mappa
@@Angulooseread @celeborn93 comment above your own.
I recently got S1 blu ray, and the vibrant colours of Witt were beautiful and stood out. It took full advantage of blu ray format, which I think Mappa art wouldn't do.
I also like how most Titan fights by Witt are 2D and look far better. Nearly all Mappa titan fights are CGI and look worse.
i prefer WITT for their vibrant color tone
i really miss WIT, the line quality was so satisfying and the "camera work"? was so much better than MAPPA's.. there were so many wonky scenes in the past seasons that just made me sad
MAPPA had way less time
witt studio also just brings back alot of nostalgia, which also brings a powerful punch in comparison to mappa.
I am just glad.. WIT has animated levis every fight scene
Both are great. Most important is story telling
Ummm.... No brainer buddy! WIT WINS by a colossal margin! 🙂
I think that both studios have obvious strengths and weaknesses, I do believe that if MAPPA was given more time, they could’ve equalized some aspects. But one more thing to mention is that I think the studios art really fit the seasons they were given, I really liked MAPPA doing s4 although I don’t think s1-s3 would’ve been that good for them. I also think that while s1-s3 WIT was very good, I don’t know how they would do in season 4 with more of a dark theme.
AOT was never more dark than season 1 and season 2.
@Pedro_Le_Chef season 4 was definitely darker
@@Pedro_Le_Chefbut yeah season 1 episode 1 and female Titan part and the betrayal of Bertholdz and Reiner in season 2 were also dark
I’m okay with the two different styles we got, feel like it really worked to contrast the differences between pre basement and post basement story, really driving home how much the two parts of the story contrast and yet share the same themes. I’m one of the few people that think having both actually enhances the viewing experience
wit's style and colors were what added to the charm for me, however i don't think it would have fit with the darker tone of the timeskip.
I like wit's titans and odm gear better, and wit added textures to some things that mappa used flat colors for like the pure titans
Wit changed their art through adapting season 1-3. You can see a huge different from season 1 compared to 3.
Keeping that in mind, don't you think that they would tonally adapt season 4 as well?
WIT still manages to be a little better while mappa animators don't sleep 24/7 365
Mappa is good but wit is fucking perfecfion
I don't think we should shit on either studios. I think this show is a masterpiece, and the animation is absolutely savage. I have never seen anything like this. Yes, there are obviously ups and downs for both studios, but they did the God's work with bringing this mange to life. I have nothing but deep respect and appreciation for both WIT and MAPPA artists and animators.
the ending of AOT I think is what brought many people myself included interested in watching the show
I think mappa overdid it with the eye shading, I feel like in almost every scene the characters have those shadow lines around their eyes to make them seem on edge or afraid. Which works in lots of the scenes where horrible stuff is going on, but they even have it in calm scenes and scenes during the time jump where nothing extreme is happening. It feels out of place: like when the main scouts are riding the train cart and talking about who will get erens titan, sasha says it shouldn't be conny because hes dumb and that it should be her, then conny looks at her with the shadowy eyes like shed just murdered his entire family, and calls her dumb... It just felt to odd.
Mappa fits the tone of season 4
There is a difference of time.
Mappa made those animation pretty recently while Wit studio made them years ago.
Its very difficult to compare both studios action and animation because almost every season and episode has different people and shedules. The contrast comparison is a totally valid critisism, altough the more bleek and less vibrant colors do fit the dark story a lot more. Mappas color designers also made way more interesting looking color palletes, making each scene and episode feel very distinct, while wit studio recycled some palletes (like the yellow sunset which has been overused since s1) over and over again. While i like Wit studios take on the show, i am so happy that we get to see something different for Season 4, since i think that Wits style got very stale and repetitive.
I like both for what they are, Wit was perfect pre timeskip with its Vibrant Colors and more animated artstyle and brighter colors whereas Mappa’s grittier artstyle and less vibrant colors fit the darker tone of the current story more than Wits previous style would of
I think the way it all coincided worked out as perfectly as things could have, a big reason I originally enjoyed aot so much at first was for the unique animation and while a lot was lost in the switch, the fact it happened after a 4 year timeskip to a particularly dark plotline fit perfect with mappas style and the fact our characters look different now reflects the time between them
Only thing that I really disliked from mappa was the titan animations which is a pretty big “only”, but I’ll concede CGI was their best maybe only option given circumstances. They don’t look like they’re made of flesh anymore pretty much, that mottled looking texture all titan flesh had is gone and they look kind of sterile, Attack titan in particular looks terrible but then again wit CGI was exceptionally bad
For me, it's the contrast. It's what gives the whole vibe. Even the wost CGI titan would look better with contrast.
The fact is that mappa suits for season 4 as it's dark and wit suits for other season because of lite story
Of course is WIT
I really do love both of them. But of how WIT did it from the beginning, will always be my favorite.
in the few 2d titan scenes mappa had, i can't help but wonder how would they serve if they had the time. Like just look at reiner's transformation in part 3 or reiner and annie vs yaegerists on part 2, their titan designs is better than witt in my opinion, so i can't help but let all these thoughts fly😢
or the attack titan when marley hit back
and the warhammer transformation. those were top notch quality.
@@oblivionfrag8035 and the beast titan when he rescued eren, that, especially left a mark on me🥲
witt just fits the style i like the fake look sometimes it adds to the charm
For me, i also liked WIT studio because when I first watch AOT s1 and s2, it's like they really put emphasis on the characters having that bold lines on them unlike studio mappa when I reached s3 of AOT my first impression was like, it became plain, just like what you've said that mappa lack contrast etc, but in some point, Mappa is good in those fighting scenes or titan transformation by using CGI, but overall I just wish WIT studio continued the animation
If Mappa didn't have such short deadlines I have no doubt they could have matched or passed Wit in most categories.
Lol even with all the time in the world they wouldn't be able to even matched Wit aot animation
More excuses.
@@saitama2967 ok lets ignore jujutsu kaisen vinland saga and chainsaw man by mappa
@@Nightfoxx444 Jjk and Csm is their biggest project, but even those two aren't even close to the animation of the previous season of Aot lol
@@saitama2967 yeah now your just lying to yourself now Lmfao JJKs animation alone surpasses wits animation for aot
WIT just ‘feels’ right to me, idk maybe it’s a nostalgic thing since I watched since 2014 and brings me back to those times but I just felt amazed and it looked so amazing the first time watching AOT
Cgi never blends with 2d animation no matter how good the cgi is and I think wit is just better in every aspect more fluid animation, better action sequences .better cinematography ,better choreography, better direction
Bold you to say better direction
When wit cut important panels in season 1
Better direction😂. Yeah aside from action (that arifumi imai carried it). No clever storyboards, no Character acting, just mouth flap for important dialogues. Yep that's some pretty Strong direction fella
@@user-og6pb6dd5p he didn't know anything about the anime, just d*ckriding for wit
Just because wit give good odm gear and good smooth animation he think that's all animation is
it will cover cinematography to direction in better than anything
@@marcus9451 wit did very good of course. Also every greatly Animated Scene is done by arifumi imai himself. The compositing (basically 3:00)was outsourced to asahi production. The CGI was outsourced to MADBOX, even the backgrounds was outsourced to another studio (i don't remember the name). Because they were a Small studio and didn't had these departments. Mappa outsourced Somethings of course (a lot of studios do that) but still Most of the things were done in-house (it was needed because they need Communication with The shitty schedule they had and because a lot of freelancers didn't wanted to work on such a hellish schedule, mappa did use a lot of their great in-house staff. Although compositing was bad at part 1 and it had up and downs in part 2. It was definitely improved in the image that we saw in part 3. It looks amazing (because he gained more experience and had a better schedule of course). It's a bit more muted than wit but it is still Beautiful. And i think it fits better like this
@@user-og6pb6dd5p yeah the wit direction is strong what about that reiner real identity reveal ? Wit has better emotional scenes that erwin smith sacrifice? Basement scene and what about mappa's direction the conversation before jean punches reiner they literally showed forest images slideshow instead of character animation and that scene in which mikasa is killing survey cops that part was the most unceccssary cringiest part in s4 y'all mappa dick riders are mad because the winner is wit in this video😂
8:13 I completely feel the same with some of the 2D odm gear scenes made from mappa. I would have to rewatch it to kinda understand what happens.
I know right! Felt like I was a Mad man For not getting them haha
In all seriousness, this content is wy to good for such a small channel. Keep going!
Thanks a lot mate :D. Already working on a New video
WITT were given so much more time.. The final movie episode of AoT's animation was fucking insanely good. The animation and even the CGI were greatly improved.
Feel like Mappa dropped these 2 movies just to flex how good their 2d really is (and could be if they had more time)
The switch to mappa was great along with the time sip and the show becoming a lot darker
Thank you, bro! Finally, someone gets it! And with your arguments, I guess lot of people who watched this video can really think about it and admit that Wit Studio really put AOT on the top!
Thanks and keep going 👍👍👍
Thank you man! Nice to see people support the video like this
@@videodimension69 You're welcome, man! Keep going 👍👍👍
Im happy to hear that I was not the only one who just got lost and did not understand some of the mappa action scenes😂.
It was lucky that the change in tone of the show was accompanied by the change of studio. I'd been weird to see season 3 by Mappa or Final Season Part 1 still by WIT just to be changed in Part 2.
Wit enough said
I think wit's animation was perfect enough for starting season because the story was not too harsh , in later seasons with darker story mappa's darker animation was perfect .. just imagine that eren and grisha scene with wit's animation , for me it would be too plain and with mappa's animation the overall scene showed the tense environment .. so it was kinda perfect .
Not being a connoisseur on studio performances, even I felt something was wrong when I started watching S4. I really would have preferred if WITT had continued, but oh well🤷🏾♀
Lorewise I think like the transition from WITT to MAPPA. I would slightly not take the final season seriously if they made the characters' eyes look shiny if it was done in WITT's style. The way camera direction was used from MAPPA was chaotic.
Mappa’s Titan Design is better IMO, and while it’s true that the titan fights tend to look better with WIT because of the 2D, we have to remember that Mappa is actually doing an amazing job with the CGI titans in the second part of the final season AND The Rumbling. WIT also used CGI for the colossal Titan most of the time and if you go back and watch it, it looks pretty janky and out of place. So in terms of titans I would personally give the point to Mappa, I feel like they’re underrated when it comes to the AoT comparison.
Mappa attack Titan looks dehydrated and lacking body fat. He looks flat compared to season 1-3 Attack Titan.
Mappa makes a season in a year
Wit in 3/4 years if mappa had that time i woud be as good
Yea i agree, that's why i mentioned it 3 times in the video g.
@@videodimension69 oh sorry i was sleepy
@@derpysven7898 bro what anime thet made that took 3/4 years? Stop making shit up
Season 3 part 1 and Season 3 part 2 were made in under a year so you lose a bit of credibility there.
This is like how the hues in Harry Potter turned dark after the 3rd movie
In my eyes, WIT studio was much better especially with distinct facial characters and colour grading. They gave attack on titan a unique feel in which colour grading and background of Paradis by WIT studio played a major role
I think the change of style is just perfect, it shows that a new era has begun with the rumbling. I simply have completely different emotions when I see the style of Mappa compared to WITT
"...b-but Mappa flat animation and PS3 titans fit muh season 4 dark themes better 😢"
Everyone knows season 1 and 2 were sunshine and rainbows. It was a kids show until Mappa came along.
Mappa just feels darker and more mature, which fits very well with the cynic, tragic tone of the last season. Something to note is that the 3d titans are most likely due to executives putting horrible deadlines, which makes me feel bad for them
Both feel dark and mature... Eren's mom gets eaten I think there's like three scenes of dudes with their heads getting crushed... Those scenes are VERY dark and contrasted too?
In conclusion: L take
@@Grimnoire I'm talking about art style.
"...b-but Mappa flat animation and PS3 titans fit muh season 4 dark themes better 😢"
Everyone knows season 1 and 2 were sunshine and rainbows. It was a kids show until Mappa came along.
Maybe they need to expand the deadlines
I like both styles. But the Mappa style definitely fits the vibe of season 4. It’s darker and in my opinion works better for the events.
I even like Mappa’s hand drawn titans better tbh, just look at the Grisha vs Freida fight, it’s beautifully done.
However, in general I prefer the Wit style mostly because it’s what most of us are used to. I don’t know what season 4 would have looked like with the Wit style, but regardless we got a product which I think if we are honest with ourselves, we can all be satisfied with.
You were very fair to Mappa.
I even think you gave it some undeserved praise. Wit does everything better.
I mean Everything...even the art style that you say looks like plastic.
I get why you would think that but better plastic then a flat cardboard box like mappas.
wit s cgi cannot compare to mappas, i mean come on, the colossal titan from season 3 was atrocious
@@Paradox-si9wj Yeah because unlike mappa wit uses 2d titans.
And Wit has never used 3d to animate scouts when they are zipping with the odm gear. While Mappa uses 3d for those scenes and they look awful.
Also while Wit used 3d for Colossal in s3 in some scenes mind you it was used to create some insanely interesting shots.
@@kocetociparov1089 you claimed wit does everything better, idc the reason but it’s true that mappas cgi destroys wits in every way, not to mention mappa has like half a dozen projects they are working on all at once, they also only had like a year of time where as wit only had aot and they had many years to work on aot
@@Paradox-si9wj Yeah mappa had 8x as many people wit had.
Also wit uses cgi better and sparingly.
Also all of mappas anime look the same.
Also you are fatherless.
@@kocetociparov1089 lol ok but wits cgi is not better than mappas, not even close
Tbh I like Wit's more, but just my opinion and preference xD
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Wit’s cgi colossal titan in the titans section but still a great video!
Wit aot better
Both studios are equally good on their field. It's not about studio style, it's about story theme and mood. You can notice in memory, that MAPPA can replicate the same art style and mood as WITT did. But there was no need for that up until some point in story.
The part of story with which WITT worked - was about titans. The part of story with which MAPPA worked - was about people, war, character progression. Style and mood was changed to capture sudden time skip and how characters changed. How they grew up.
The contrast in WITT work helped to create a feel of fantasy world, a world we know nothing about and eager to find more about it. Lack of contrast in MAPPA work on the other hand, helped to ground the story to real world and rules we understand.
I highly disagree that contrast would've made MAPPA work look better. That's because you lack of understanding what contrast was used for in a first place. That's also why the entire studio "couldn't do" what one guy did. Not because they can't (that's silly), but because they knew that to portray and convey correct mood, they would need to tonn down contrast.
MAPPA style during Season 4 would've never worked in story for Season 1-3. And WITT style for Season 1-3 would've never worked in story for Season 4. That's why they are so different and equally good.
Bruh the "ehhh there's no contrast part" is literally me haha😂
Also if wit animated using mappa's character design, it would be much harder to be animated. I think that's the main reason why wit's character design look that way. Mappa has too much detail. Take my word with a grain of salt cause im not an actual animator/artist
Also alsoz the main reason why the titan animation got worse in season 3 is probably due to the pure volume of episodes and specifically titan fights cause infamously, titan fights are really hard to animate and takes a lot of time due to the amount of detail in the titan's character design
Bro, 165K views and only 860 subs?
Bro deserves better!!!
You should have made this video when AOT was finished bc the recent season of AOT was FRICKING gorgeous and they’re improving more and more.
Wit takes the cake in background art. Mappa background art looks nice in terms of textures and quality, but.. i’m not sure how to perfectly word it - Wit’s angles and perspective in their background art perfectly captures the scale and how vast their world is. While in Mappa, it looks like the render distance is too low.
i will not argue any further.
Nice analysis
I think if you turn up the brightness on mappa scenes then its rlly good
Mappa is definitely a more cinematic experience. The way panels are interpreted seems like out of a movie. The cgi titans and odm are not very flashy. But they are also incredible with the sound design and incorporating osts.
More cinematic experience 💀
the cinema you watch must be peppa-pig lmao
Bro just saying things
bro is that one guy who says extra words to seem cool
Darker color = more cinematic💀
LOVE MAPPAS ARTSYLE, MISS THE COLORS, WIT'S ODM IS MAGNIFICENT, BOTH STUDIO BACKGROUNDS ARE GLORIOUS, ALL THE TITAN SCENES FROM BOTH STUDIOS WERE EPIC IMO (LEVI VS BEAST IN THE FOREST IS MY ONLY BWUH MOMENT)
Somewhere in an alternate timeline, WIT studios animate Berserk and it’s accurate to the manga and went up to the latest chapters.
Holy hell I wish I lived in that alternate reality.
Imo, Mappa is better for the latter seasons as it gets more serious thsn season 1 and 2, the darker and grittier tones fit the plot twists in the end vey well
Again thats just ky opinion
I think you forgot one of the most important aspects of this argument. How they adapt the source material. What WiT did to Mikasa is unforgivable and neither is cutting out the dream right at the start etc.
what did WIT do to mikasa?? dont u mean mappa they literally made her look like a dude
One thing I really don't like about MAPPA's versions of the anime is the weird filters they sometimes use. Instead of using detailed colour grading and contrasting to get a certain atmosphere across like Witt, it seems a lot of scenes just have a blank colour filter over top the scene. This is most usually seen in flashback episodes, like with Reiner, Berthold and Annie being on the island for the first time. The whole landscape has a weird blue/turquoise filter and it looks terrible. The sky isn't dark, moody and cloudy but a greenish blue. Similarly in the flashback scenes to when Eren and friends are in the carriage going home from working on the railroads, the entire landscape has an odd orange filter. It's an attempt to make it look like the sun is going down and they're going home from a long day, but instead of orange light being shone onto the carriage and faces of the characters realistically it's just a filter stuck on top. In one aspect I don't really blame them because of the heavy deadlines set for the poor animators, but at the same time, whoever it is that sets those deadlines needs to stop sacrificing quality over quantity.
Honestly I think the artstyle change for the final season fits in really well with the overall feeling the season gives me.
It has a way darker story than the first three seasons and mappa's artstyle does the same thing for me? Idk
Wit wins every round for me. I just really don't like the way Mappa draws the characters (especially their noses). Yes it looks closer to the manga but if I had to be completely honest, the manga's art never looked that great to me (though the art improvement over the years is very impressive). And the amount of proportion mistakes and frame drops are also distracting in Mappa. In terms of backgrounds Wit also looks much better thanks to their masterful use of contrast differences. As for the hair and objects, I also prefer Wit. Though the object used in the example looks more detailed in Mappa's version, it's an object that should mostly go unnoticed. Meaning you don't need/want it to have too many details (the less you want for viewers to focus on something, the less details it should have, otherwise you get an overload of details on your screen which can accidentally cause the lack of a clear focus point in the scene). So this again shows that Mappa struggles a bit with overall balancing of foreground with background art and color contrasts. In the example that was used the hair looks great in both (different styles), but for most other scenes I don't like the way the hair is done in Mappa (mostly due to awkward proportions, the hair doesn't seem to sit right on the head often times). I also must add that the use of music and sound was far better balanced and timed in Wit's animation projects. In conclusion, while I really like Mappa, Wit is generally just much more skilled and perfectionistic. Even when both studios are at their best, I prefer Wit studio.
"...b-but Mappa flat animation and PS3 titans fit muh season 4 dark themes better 😢"
Everyone knows season 1 and 2 were sunshine and rainbows. It was a kids show until Mappa came along.
Not a single person who understands animation seems to side with Mappa.
Why are casuals so apprehensive about criticizing season 4?
@@Pedro_Le_Chef Because they think that hyping up any Mappa production is what the cool kids do. It's just the typical hive mind thing.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef"Who understands animation" Oh, so you just wanna be one of those obnoxious know it alls.
I completely agree 👍
Lmao *Tinder samurai* that's genuinely a great name
I'm from the future and I must say that, Mappa really nailed S4 Part 3 Part 1 visuals, it looks so good, I wish they somehow rerelease s4 part 1 and part 2 blu-ray with part 3 quality. Wit's contrast and coloring still my favorite, but damn Mappa really nailed it this time.
I think in the newest episode/special of AoT mappa have outdone themselves and delivered the best visuals in AoT yet.
I liked WIT's original sharp, polished, high contrast art style more as it gave anime it's own unique aesthetic looks and vibe. Not to mention they started making it a decade ago and WIT last work on AOT S3 was phenomenal such as Levi vs Kenny fight was next level something out of top tier animation movie. I wish Wit continued with AOT S4 or rather collaborated with MAPPA to finish this masterpiece of an anime!
Mappa makes the characters look more matured, the whole feeling is darker and it feels more realistic. I think it fits season 4 perfectly
i personally feel like the CGi for the odm gear in mappa looks good, as again, it gives more depth along with suiting thew dakrness of season 4
I think it wouldve been cool if you would've also compared the mappa cg titans to wit cg titans (colossus titan season 2 onwards, the rod titans and season 3 generic titan groups), because I would be interested to hear your opinion on Wits CG
I feel Mappa has the ability to adapt to Attack On Titan more, I’ve just realized how dark the anime actually is. Mappa is able to enhance the anime by adding unique OST. Mappa can animate Titans better just compare Erens Attack Titan on Wit and Mappa. Plus Mappas cgi makes the anime more budget efficient. The people saying that Wit should’ve continued cause of Bertholt Titan cgi, imagine seeing millions of Bertolt Titan in the Rumbling obviously you can see the difference. But I don’t like the Fact your using episode 4 for comparison, remember wit released that episode back in 2014 and mappa released memories of the future in 2022.
Wit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>💩mappa
Cry
Wit Is way better
guys, we cant forget about the final episode fight, that went so damn hard
I want to see this video remade with the final part in mind
Wit was legendary. Mappa looked too commercial