wit studio vs Mappa on animating survey crops with 3D maneuver gear (odm) - attack on Titan
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2021
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0:00 wit studio
1:04 mappa studio
attack on Titan
mappa studio
wit studio
CGI
3D CGI
2D handrawn
aot season 4
animation of aot season 4
scouts
survey crops
odm - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
I wanted to mention that mappa did an incredible job in animation of part 2 at all levels ( CGI - 2d - scouts - motion ) and better than wit
respect to both studies ❤
Be honest (not a single one better than wit)
Even wit cgi combined with animation like s2 wass a lot better
Wtf are u saying. Even they know they didn’t do a better job. To say they did with all the cgi and rush, in my opinion is very disrespectful to wit who took and had more time.
@@areumad9565 ummmm no compare season 3 of aot to season 4 part 2 of aot they both almost have the same amount of production time and c the difference while wit was good in the art department almost all the fight in season 3 part 2 were still imagine while mappa everything have movement mappa is clearly the better studio at animating and if they had enough time I am sure aot season 4 would have looked gorgeous sadly that's not the case
@@areumad9565 bruh wit had 2 years s3 small studio very rushed for them = GOD TIER QUALITY
mappa S4 had 2 years big studio = not even close BABE
@@yone3040 I wasn’t replying u, but to the owner of the channel, I love wits animations
Basically Wit studio is literally perfect studio for aot.
But now mappa has made it good enough
@@Thebookmedurdu for the titans alright. But they're not there yet. Mappa is under dvpt and even with the very best they can't get at the same level of fluidity. Wit spoiled us with gr8 animation and movie like experience. Hence, mappa is struggling a lot to even keep up. That's all
@@AM-cd7ve Agree 💯
@@AM-cd7ve Bruh can you guys like not compare the two unless they are given the same amount of time? It's so unfair
@@Thebookmedurdu Yeah, the camera movements are great! but still it's CGI, im not saying the CGI of theirs was bad, im just not a big fan of it.
WiT will always come on top for me, I love their style. I fucking miss them. Shit.
Yes me too
I miss them so much 🥺😭
I hate mappa
@@mommumi1770 you should hate wit for dropping the show. Mappa is just a replacement
@@DeanAmx well for me, i'm proud of wit studio to be a professional who cares about the quality and their staff.
@@rifkiharahap7888 and dropping season 4
Considering the Levi scene took more time to animate than the entire 4th season, I think they did a pretty good job
Yeah u mean a month Lmao?
@@longdang2437 Pretty sure it was like 6 months for the Levi scene lol
@@user-nj4ic9bc2y That was for the Levi vs Beast Titan fight, this one took longer
It also was outsourced, not made entirely by wit.
No lmao completely false
It took 3 months and it was made by a freelancer so doesn't matter
I miss the original art style of AOT. The bold colors and the thick black outlines of the characters is what made the show stick out in the first place.
Wit is the reason AOT has earned the world's attention. Without the cinematography and direction, only few people will get hook to Shingeki.
False, it's the story(plot) and the characters that draws the worlds attention. 10 years ago the talk among friends is that there is this is new anime that is cool because theyre fighting giant zombies and the main characters are interesting that is why a lot of kids including me (at the time ) decided to give aot a watch because its not generic like most anime.
@@morningstarlink No one cares about an anime with terrible, edgy animation. The Berserk manga is even better than aot and no one cares because it's too difficult to get a proper anime adaptation
I can say it not about the plot. There are a lot of loyal fan from the beginning. But it became famous from the middle of ss3
@@caleumtastuthis!!! This is also the reason why OPM season 1 attracted many fans while season 2 didn't
@@dns0095the season had less budget and was also rushed. Personally, I think it had some pretty good animation (might have to rewatch it because I don't remember it often) but the animation style and art were one of the reasons why it was bad
If only MAPPA knows how to raise 5% of their brightness and lighting effects.
I think it fits the dark theme of the show
@@yez9475 back to shiganshina arc is so dark, but the color is still clear
@@ibadurrohmanmusthofa7619 ik
@@yez9475 literally the entire show is dark af, but season 1 and 2 still had vibrant colors.
@@wishiwepwep2859 i know
Basically the Mappa studio's cameraman can't catch up with Levi
I actually laughed when it cut to Mappa lmfaoooo
No one asked 🤷♂️
@@otfxclan8739 Sup bitch i asked
hey @Austin did you laugh when it cut to Mappa
@@otfxclan8739 insecure mappa fan lmao
Mappa needs to add some 2D BATTLES
I'm tired of this CGI
same lmao also i laughed more cuz there was no music😂
Let be real.Wit is a lot better not only in animation but art direction.Every frame by wit looks phenomenal even the background sky alone looks breathtaking.S3 was really where wit shined,the level of detail in the shinganshina background was crazy and way ahead of its time.
wait till part 3 comes out
and be grateful for once in your life that we got the paths and the rumbling animated
Mappa is good too idiot
@@felixgoobins why should i be grateful for a bad cgi mess i would prefer it not to get animated
@@felixgoobinswhat is with you people riding mappas dick?
@@tnl-warrior3218 ikr. If they keep tolerating shit, then all of us will be given shit.
@@SIN-py7ll the worst part is these same people will complain about the corporate greed they reap, we can see this in companies like apple
For those people saying “wit had more time to animate and mappa had less than a year” wit is a much smaller studio well less people animating so obviously they’re gonna be given more time to animate aot
Do you have any idea how many freelancers worked on AoT alongside WIT?
thats the thing. They higher freelancers since the studio JUST began to create aot (they only started becuz isayama was friends to the creators of the studio, who then planned to create wit.) so they got a hell of a ton of support. Mappa was not only animating like 3 other really great anime, it had low deadlines meaning they had to cut the schedule and go in Crunch mode, get sidetracked by other anime and make sure they can still make aot, and for this reason they use CGI. As shown is season 4 2nd half, they personally CHOSE TO USE CGI to save time and make sure they can reach the deadline.
@@mrsparks926 MAPPA has multiple separate teams for animating shows, so the fact that they were animating other shows is irrelevant because AOT's team was only focused on AOT
wit is 37 person and mappa is 200 person
@@ibadurrohmanmusthofa7619 WiT has more than 100 people as of 2021 WTF why is everyone spreading misinformation
Mappa isn't that bad. It just Wit that is too good at animating these. And you use literally the best scene Wit Aot ever had, don't compare it to minor scene that aren't even focusing to that "maneuver guys"
How low have peoples standards have fallen
That's the problem dude, THERE IS NO MANEUVER GUYS SCENE
The only scene made by MAPPA that comes close is the most recent harbor battle against Floch, and yet no such scene compares to the ones WIT did
@@Lucas-ew5lk The final fight in the last episode was animated phenomenally
@@st.altair4936 I SAW IT!!!! I TOUGHT I WOULD NEVER SEE THOSE AGAIN, I WAS SO HAPPY😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
The worst part of it all is that Mappa had around two scenes where they showed that they obviously CAN do incredible ODM gear scenes, especially with Levi and Mikasas' last ODM scene at the end... but it's like, Mappa animators we're streched so thin. That studio is not big enough to be working on all the projects that they are working on.
That escene on the last episode of levi and mikasa was actually produced by arifumi amai, a former WIT producer, people in mappa were good wit the character desing but not even having the time when they split the final in 2 parts they got scenes this fluent, it was never about time tbh, even so mappa did great job but wit was on another level
The problem has always been MAPPAs executives. According to an interview they wanted to be on par with the well known studios, so they got every popular manga under the sun to adapt (AOT, JJK, Chainsaw Man). It's killing their animators btw
That scene with Floch trying to shoot the boat has great Animation tough
@@diogomarques9228 Sure, but it still looks sloppy and unfinished in comparison to this.
Wit: epic enterances and battles
Mappa: beast titan goes swingitty swooty
Wit's Collosal titan 3D model be like
@@zerin5510 The amazingly animated hange scene going around the 3d collosal titan be like
@@zerin5510Bro nitpicking just 3 episode from wit and ignore the rest which is 2X better then MAPPA
@@choucolte9468 Nah, both studios for me did a great job. I personally like Mappa's style a lot more, but that's just preference. Though you gotta admit both studio's did some giga silly stuff.lmao
This is why you give a studio TIME
Bruh he compared 1 minute of best animated scene in whole aot series to random 20 seconds of survey corp just using odm.
@@islamrakhatbekov3583 Ik for a fact your ass has not watched season 4 then cuz how tf you say this with a straight face…
@@keno4770 I'm going to be honest, in terms of titans, cgi and stuff, Mappa is way better. But even with the latest AoT episodes, I find the 3D manuever gear to be better with Wit.
@@lordreno8911 the reason mappa odm is different is more because of how it’s paced
@@lordreno8911 nah wit still handled titans better, they didnt even really use 3d anyways only for like the collosal titan so not really a good comparison because 80% mappas titans 3d... But part 2 def improved the cgi
I mean most of wits odm scenes are near that quality or above average animation wise so i dont think it would've have made a difference, esp when the odm pov was the main focus of the mappa scene it just felt like using a free camera in a cheap 3d game
MAPPA: So there's a soldier who could be dangerous?
WIT: Yes, Captain Levi's animations can be dangerous to animate.
WIT: Intense like speedy odm good camera angle
Mappa : flying like flies
you only saw the levi one
More like, flies smooth sailing through the air at constant velocity.
more like floating, they look jangy and has no weight.
Wit studio is by far superior.
Mappa has done a great job with Season 4 but wits animation from season 1-3 was unforgettable and beautiful.
Agreed. Wit was perfect for aot and creating the atmosphere
Mappa is actually suitable for the final season because there are too many titan fights. Wit gonna have a hellish time animating those. Mappa CGI already improved a lot so the burden will not be heavy
Look man, Mappa did great with whatever time and resources they had. But wit just used to kill it with the odm scenes. Anybody who thinks different is delusional I'm sorry.
Sadly delusional is meant for the minorities that thinks differently. So im afraid you are the delusional one.
@@badguy7432 That's not what it means
@@idunnodo1142 ? So what does it mean then
@@badguy7432 Delusional is a word used to describe people who hold beliefs that clearly do not hold up in the face of critical analysis. While the word here is certainly being used in a joking fashion, since art is incredibly subjective, to some extent, Wit completely outdid Mappa on terms of ODM scenes and delusional would be a certainly be a choice of words worthy of being used if someone were to consider MAPPA's ODM animations better
@@idunnodo1142 lol. My bad, I didnt understand "kill it with odm scenes" mentioned by him properly.
If he meant wit did way better in the odm animations, I definitely agree with him.
Switching to mappa was a huge mistake 😢
its not
@@reactionare It was, mostly due to Mappa's horrible management
@@reactionare It ruined attack on titan snap out of your delusions mappa fanboy.
@@noyuzu so your telling me the last season was terrible?
hell yea majority of aot not from mappa but from ishayama to the final season made it bad such as a mid ending to the greatest show, theres also a scene which I cant believe someone from the producer mappa let by. Levi 1v1 a jaw titan clone, which is totally normal but the thing is, he wasn't flying or grabbing on to something, he started swinging his sword midair and deflecting the titan claw like gojo vs sukuna @@reactionare
The thing that disturbs me is the fact WIT studio is the one that slowly builds AOT franchise. They have amazing director,animation and have put alot of money until they almost become broke. When they sell AOT at its peak to MAPPA, its MAPPA that got all the hype and gain money even the animation is subpar. When said that MAPPA animation is just alright, they start to nitpick WIT’s colossal titan and CGI which is just like 2% of the whole animation.
people don't get why the colossal was CGI'ed for season 2. This is because, in future, they will CGI'ed the rumbling scene which MAPPA exactly using the CGI'ed version of colossal titan.
And the cgi colossal wasn't even that bad tbh
WIT’s best scene V.S. Mappa’s worst 3D animation 💀 fair comparison
It actually is because witts best scene compared to mappas worst shows how's willing mappa was to cut corners. Witt went well beyond what anyone would have expected mappa went way lower then what anyone would have expected
Wow I knew the quality took a hit in season 4 but watching them back to back really gives it perspective, so sad
Deadass comparing months of work to weeks of work
You are here After the news that wit studio will work on One piece
yeah AHHahahah I'm checking their animation style.
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Floch: U used the wrong clip
Floch scene was good but this was better in my opinnion
You really think this 15 fps scene so good?
The Levi vs MP scene was wit's budget gone to the shadow realm
bro took the best way wit did it and the worst way mappa did
Fr
You guys do know this was 8 months ago right?
@@Geno810 yeah but the point is that's an unfair comparisson. More unfair even seeing what they did in season 4 part 2
@@romangarcia4993 part 2 being good doesnt magically make part 1 better
Yes but you'd be blind if you think that mappa's animation in aot is better than wit
To be fair in manga at all of chapters that season 4 use as material doesnt really have that many odm scene, there more titans battle. Beside they have less time than Wit so it is acceptable
Not shitting on mappa I luv their stuff but man.................we needed wit for aot
idk if anyone have seen the one of the lastest episodes, they (mappa) did a really good job with the odm gear, im not saying its better than wits but its was really good
I don't know why people cope that MAPPA is fine, MAPPA's best was WIT's average and WIT's worst was NEVER as bad as MAPPA's worst.
MAPPA did AOT dirty, blame the people uptop and not the animators, sure, of course, but that's how it is. Animation aside, there's so much more that was lost, direction, lighting, pacing, music choices, I rewatched season 2 the other week and it was night and day. Back in the day when AOT characters were inside a room illuminated by a sunny day coming from a window, you would be able to see faintly how particles of dust floated on the room, and the way the sun illuminated their face, stuff like that was just lost...
I agree 100% with your sentiment... not to mention the how score was applied...
@@MrBlaqgold gonna kill Pixis while J pop is playing, not gonna use volgen im kafig in the entirity of the final season
@@Yama-qg3il my god bro?! Wtf?? And shall we even get into those low rent Titan designs... lets make them look exactly the same, but bigger, without any character or expression?? Wtf... did they miss all of season 1-3 or something. Pixis titan was 🤮.
They played one of the best scores when the titans arrived on the shores of Mali, except it was a triumphant score, not a horrifying one??? How is it WIT had me more terrified watching Armored titan charge the inner wall of shiganshina than when the rumbling arrived to Mali... yikes
I'm glad they didn't use vogel I'm kaffig, they would have ruined it and played it when floch died or some shit 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@MrBlaqgold I actually like that ataek on taitn remix playing when the rumbling first arrives at Marley, it's played when Reiner first invades Shiganshina, and now, years later, a remixed version is playing when the attack titan reaches Marley with the rumbling, lashing out in a much bigger and much more terrible way. It just feels grand and destructive, not triumphant, triumphant would be something like when they killed Pixis and they played barricades for some reason... or when Armin and the rest get to Eren's back from the plane and it starts to play j pop again
Mappa ODM look like they're using jetpacks. One of my favorite ODM sequence is S1E11 when eren was maneuvering his way to the boulder and finished with a transformation in the end.
wit studio levi vs kenny squad will be the best odm gear scene ever
Wit Studio : more and more battle camera frame angle for whole action scene
Mappa : just a single camera frame for whole action scene
What most people realized is that WIT had so much more time and experience from years on animating AOT while MAPPA only had a fraction on time and they had to create new look for characters and titans for the time skip. WIT knew how to play with the ODM animation while MAPPA didnt bc of the lack of experience of doing that sort of thing. And wouldnt use up all their time doing all those intricate movements due to the lack of time. Imagine letting WIT animate all of this, im pretty sure AOT would likely finish around 2026
@ᴊᴇɴɴꜱ the point he's trying to make is it takes months to animate 3dmg scenes even like the Levi chase scene. Mappa doesn't have the luxury and experience to do this
I agree but it's not about the experience it was mostly about time management and there schedule they weren't only animating AOT they had other animes on line while animating AOT. MAPPA already showed how fluid there animation can be with just little time.
@ᴊᴇɴɴꜱ most of the scenes for animes are animated before hand unless you're a large studio like Toei. Most studio still plan things for months, there is a lot of behind the scene stuff
@ᴊᴇɴɴꜱ No one said that, it will finish this year. All we said was there was planning put into animating way before the episodes air
no one said that but you. You just lack reading comprehension. The comment that said 2026 was just an explanation for if Wit is going to adapt season 4
mappa looked like a video game
🤣😂
Lmao its so unfair to compare Wit and Mappa's ODM gear scenes and then use the Levi vs Military Police scene as your comparison. That scene is a masterpiece. Wit probably spent more time on that scene than Mappa had to make the whole season.
Anyone who thinks Mappa can't make absolutely stunning dynamic action scenes should watch Jujutsu Kaisen.
wit was created in 2012 and give us aot in 2013 with 26 episodes and with animation waaaay better than 2021 mappa 12 episodes
Just imagine mappa is the one that aniimated s1-3 and wit animated s4, ppl will say wit is trash, humans are so fucking stupid
@@zakariamaarouf118 stfu wit is a part of production ig studios and they were working on aot way before 2012
@@zakariamaarouf118 they take their time more than they do man and when the animator is passionate
They can bring good deeds
@@zakariamaarouf118 the clip you saw is not from 2013
The only wit studios error was lefting aot to another animation studios
i am not a technical expert but i feel WIT studio made scenes "More thrilling and exciting" if that make any sense
I agree
Mappa doesn't have enough time
Correct
wit had less time for season 2 than MAPPA had for season 4 and their adaptation still looks 100x better
@@Muken385 u straight up lying bro...they literally had 3 yrs time while mappa barelly had 7 months for the 1st cour and 9 months for 2nd cour plus season 4 was just full of crazy shit like rumbling,paths...all the odm gear scenes and we are not even finished yet
is their fault from being greedy
Who asked
Kenny vs Levi is one of the best scenes in anime, it’s beautiful with the lighting and is so fast and action packed
One Piece fights with WIT Studios going to be epic!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Sanji kicks
@@PrincipeCharro Usopp snipes
Yeah that's true
I fucking hate the "Oh, they don't have enough time!! Oh, they have another 10 gazillion stories to anime" argument. If you don't have the time or enough resources to produce something that can live up to the hype, maybe don't take the job? Why would you choose to do something you have full knowledge of fucking it up? Oh, I know why: the money is GREEN.
Well, mappa had enough time with chainsawman and it still had shitty 3d action.
well its wit studio who decided to shift their work, its wit studio who cant finish their mf aot final season then proceed to shift their whole work to other studio once they saw the tight ass schedule and deadline
@@AchmadDikiArivaldijust proves that wits didnt do it for money.
@@SIN-py7ll Yep, MAPPA feels like another fucking soulless company that tortures their employees with shit tons of workload and tortures our eyes with the shit CGI they have to use because the deadline wouldn’t allow the animators to go 100% and create their work with passion, you know? Like what artists are supposed to do. Am I the only one who sees that no one benefits from this?
"Those greedy fuckers decided to go lazy because they wanted to have money for food, they should starve instead".
It's funny though that MAPPA and WIT both used the same techniques but got completely different outcomes. WIT used CGI buildings with textures on them and drew on top of the rendered frames. MAPPA drew their 2D characters and put them into the 3D world.
After MAPPA got the production of AoT they were never able to do anything close to the 1st-3rd season ODM scenes quality. I don't even care about the CGI Titans but the few scenes with the ODM gear MAPPA did are so stiff and simple, that's really sad.
Even the best sequence MAPPA did (in episode 22 of the 4th season) is not that good compared to WIT's studios work, especially Mikasa's scenes that are very fast, kinda stiff and they basically show her already on the back of the Titan's head not the trajectory until there.
The WIT ODM scenes looks like it's from 2030 while MAPPA's 4th season scenes looks like it is from 2010.
MAPPA doesn't do many of these scenes probably because they can't do it with the same quality we got in basically every single ODM scenes during the 1-3 seasons (and there are a lot of them). We can see how Mappa is afraid of doing it and how difficult it is for them, almost like they put all their effort just for that one episode 22.
Yes I agree, and I dont want another person slapping the Mappa only had limited time, Honestly Im fine waiting for WIT to animate it for another 2yrs.
@@casallowendells.6239 Agree, we are so tired of "they didn't have much time". Mappa knew they are in a time constraint for AoT ss4 but instead of focusing hundreds of their employees on AoT to deliver the best quality possible, they chose to spread their employees by taking in more and more project. And sure, they did it for money, didn't even care about the quality of the show.
@@duyanhhoang2700 MILKING THE SHOW TO INCREASE THE BUDGET WITH A MEDIOCARE ANIMATION.
@@duyanhhoang2700 i don’t understand either, you have a contract to sign that you’ll agree to it. so why is it they use the excuse they were forced or didn’t have time whne they KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING??
Well Mappa almost matched the Wit scene in episode 11 when Floch lost his shit.
not even close lol
@@akiraofa and when Mikasa and all them kill all the yeagerist that was lit
@@akiraofa Levis scene took 6 months to animate whereas MAPPA had 1 year for the whole season lmao. I think they deserve a praise.
@@racks1121 what im really weirded is that most of the character cheek gets chubby
@@runokati3668 they should give mappa more time to animate it ngl, even if it takes so long, atleast we aren't disappointed with a godly animation
I feel like a lot people don't take into account the fact that we were able to see that quality of animation with WIT studio thanks to freelancer animators, Levi vs the beast titan took 6 months to animate and the Levi vs Kenny Squad the same amount of time MAPPA was given to animate the final season, which is why of course, MAPPA couldn't go up to par, i'm sure if Kodansha had given MAPPA more than a year to animate AOT we would had have some peak animation, i mean, almost all the animes under the company are the proof of that, but that wasn't the case and i think we should be grateful instead of bashing and comparing the animation since we are not the ones overworking ourselves to produce an episode every week, you guys have no empathy, and if it makes you THAT mad, i don't know why would you still watch it.
source: trust me bro, wit was created in 2012 and give us aot in 2013 with 26 episodes andd with animation waaaay better than 2021 mappa 12 episodes
@@zakariamaarouf118 Just say you skipped the part were i talked about freelancers and go..... most odm gear and fight scenes in WIT were animated by freelancers, which logically increases the quality of animation since they just have to focus on one scene and not the whole production, and also helped the 34 underpayed animators in WIT, even so, the TV version of AOT season 1 had a lot of inconsistencies, specially in character desing that were later fixed on the dvd version, which is the one most of us have seen...MAPPA has over 200 animators but still, this season is more difficult to animate than any other season of AOT and i even dare to say one of the most difficult in animation overall, and aside from the anime not being profitable for WIT at all, having 1 year to animate something as difficult as this wasn't going to work which is why they decided to drop AOT, and even though not perfect, for the things they have to animate and the time they were given and the budget, MAPPA is doing more than good, y'all just like to complain about any single thing as if MAPPA using CGI for 10 seconds is going to completely ruin your entire life, y'all think animating is easy which makes me wonder what would y'all do if you were animating day and night in poor work conditions without going home with an underpayed job for people to sit on their couch and complain over anime. You guys just live over a screen, be more empathic.
@@Aprianex I bet they won't even reply lol these people are like this 😂
tbh one of the big reasons this show got so popular was the amazing wit animations in the first seasons. it's only natural that a lot of people would not react kindly to a downgrade in animation quality, when it was one of aot's trademarks. whether mappa could have done better or not is up for debate, but this is the final product, and it's inferior to wit. for the casual viewer, that's all that matters in the end
@@gomi3341 whats ur point? mappa also used twitter freelancers for literally any decent looking scene, ebara and imai were a part of WiT before they became freelancers and they stated that without the experience filled studio and their insane director araki they wouldnt have provided these dynamic scenes, it seems as if you are downplaying the entirety of WiT over some measly excuse like "freelancers" because the product that mappa produced is inferior
I miss it when they used to do that really cool camera pan with ODM gear:( they don’t do that no more
I think that Levi vs Kenny's squad is way more epic than Levi Vs The Beast Titan
Kenny fight may be more cool , but levi vs beast titan was an emotion because levi promised to commander Erwin
@@hellprisoner9060 agreed
I miss the good quality of studio wit, arifumi imai really spoiled us mane 😔
Wit obviously, but if Mappa had the same conditions as Wit I’d say they’d be pretty even if not maybe better
They had much more time for part 2 of season 4, and all they had to show for it are a FEW SECONDS of great OMD maneuver scenes 🤦
same conditions? please realise that wit studio have 30-40 employees whereas mappa have more than 200. Mappa did an excellent job but what wit studio did was just phenomenal. Wit studio has financial problems and mappa has time management issues
@@elmakaori530 wit got those problems after S3 was finished lmao
wit like 3 years mappa like 1 year: u xD
@@elmakaori530 mappa has 200 employees cause they produce more animes than wit ever could
In my opinion i liked WIT more than Mappa because it didn't feel like still images sliding across the screen.
imagine season 4 with wit style💀 eren vs reiner would have been magnificent
Bruh I get that wit is godly and all but this and levi vs beast titan wasn't even done by wit. It was done by *1* freelancer in 3 months. And wit's cgi is garbage so just imagine in 8 months, wit making a PS1 game compared to a PS3 game. Mappa isn't good at all but they're not the worst studio.
@@jono_8890 lol the freelancer (arifumi imai) is a former employee of production ig and wit studio. He has been involved in aot since s1 to s3.
If you think colossal titan by wit is like ps1 vgame, then ps1 colossal titan vs hange squad on s2 is better than all fight scenes on s4
@@jono_8890 WIT was founded in june 2012 and aot s1(25 eps) appeared in april 2013 which is less than 1 years. for season 2 they waited for the source(manga) and made it for 2 years. season 3 p1 was made for 1 years and p2 for 8 months.
@@jono_8890 wit cgi? there were like 3 cgi scenes....in season 4 everything is cgi...
@@maksyoungs3057 I mean that the cgi was horrible so it would be a ps1 game if they did s4 in 8 months yet many people want them.
If you look at jjk, you can see that the mapa doesn't care about the aot. People say they're grateful that Mapa made an animation in a short period of time and watched season 4, but Mapa was in charge of the aot, Mapa should do her best to produce the animation. Mapa is a major company and not an incompetent studio. Mapa just didn't invest in aot. Season 4 is said to be suitable for a dark atmosphere, but the aot shown by the wit studio is a "cruel but beautiful world." Wit Studio makes you feel different by showing beautiful sky and nature in a scary and cruel world. Since aot is a dark content, it seems more vivid and realistic to express a bright atmosphere. And Mapa's character design is said to be similar to the original work, but is it necessary to draw it similarly? Even though there are better designs? In addition to this, the camera angle, OST, battle scene, directing skills, and expressing emotions on the characters' faces are all disappointing. Especially, the symbol of aot, 3d manever gear... It was really unfortunate. I don't know why Mapa made Season 4.
Honestly I think the problem is that mappa is probably not used to animating shows this demanding and in this certain style. When I watched jjk it was alright but for the 2 years it took to make it, it didn’t really impress me as much as any of aot’s seasons or any wit studio anime in general. The only other studio that could possibly match/beat wit studio’s adaptation is ufotable but they were smart and just left it alone
もしmappaがシーズン4を製作しなかったら私たちは2度と進撃の巨人のアニメの続きを見ることが出来ませんでした。
Should wit have made aot season 4, it would have taken another 4-5 years. But the quality is worth the wait.
I could have waited as long as possible
Yes! More time = More quality
That makes no sense... They wouldnt have taken 5 years lol
@@Emerardo aren't you sad that after release of 2 more episodes the AOT series (story) will be completed... And we will not get anymore new Storylines from AOT.
@@randomuser6276 Nah they cant finish the manga in 2 eps, theres probably going to be a movie continuation
Levi is that one sweat in your game that nobody can kill
Levi running from Kenny and the hunters is the toughest scene ever
It really is, that one scene is why I like season 3 the best, or the op 4 part of season 3. I don't know what those animators at WIT were smoking at the time
It's not fair comparing someone's best work against someone's worst
Attack on titan is the best project a studio can get. They cannot afford to ruin such a big thing. MAPPA had to give their best not the worst. But they improved part 2 a lot. But yeah, it's still no match for WIT
Fr like this is the worst shot of the season compared to the best shot of the show, no comparison💀
mappa destroyed it nicely i mean the odm scene looks like spider man 2d game played by survey corps
@E . A it was still only maybe 1/4 of wits odm quality
@E . A its lame. They 100% had the budget to make s4 look good. Instead they were forced to poop out a steaming pile of shit by the production board in 8 months to coincide with the manga ending
@@BeansAottg dont go assuming like you know everything
The only upside of mappa is that their animation has more details ,
I want people to look at the first 3 seasons again because that's some epic animation,
Wit studio's perfect for AOT because they are the best at motion anime which's the best part of AOT
@@Paradox-si9wj Fr wits odm gear is good that’s it pm 🤷♀️, mappa is a lot better with titan fights
I rather sacrifice detail in the name of fluid movement
@@Paradox-si9wj WiT doesn’t even use CGI in season 1, and in season 2 they use it for a few seconds and it looks better than Mappa’s by a lot. Season 3 yeah the cgi was horrible but it was for a few seconds unlike season 4 where even the humans are CGI and it looks terrible
Mappa literally took Aot with 7 other projects in their hands. Really shows how little they care about the anime(no hate to the animators they are doing their best).
AoT is a very popular anime. even if Mappa didn't took it. some years later some studio will take it.
And they surely don't care about overworking their staff.
More like they care abt the money and torturing their staff lmao
I love corporate greed
I love corporate greed
@@kiattim2100 yeah YEARS I don't want to wait that long for anime I'd be about 25 if I had to wait for some other company to grab aot
@@faultyparadise2493 WIT literally want make AoT S4 in 1 years because in S4 have so many new stuff and the low paid, but Kodansha just shit and want to clear in 8 month . If you look the season before, S1 take less then 1 years, S2 production time only 14 month ,S3 part 1 take less then 1 years and part 2 take 8 month
Why every idiot in this comment being mad at Mappa?? They're good in their own way. Let Wit rest after 7 damn years working on AOT. Mappa animate lots of anime at the same time
Guys, don't hate on the animation because MAPPA's animators doesn't have enough time so they are under heavy stress but on the other hand you can hate MAPPA because they're making their animators work so god damn hard.
I don't think any reasonable person would harass the animators. However, as a consumer i have the right to judge the product.
Mappa may have had much less time, but I would be willing to give WIT more months to do the last seasons if they would make it so spectacular. ESPECIALLY, think of what kind of God Tier animation WIT would have made for the FINAL SEASON and climax of the show. Mappa did good with their timeframe but now we'll never get to see WIT make an AOT finisher which would've been God tier/
Te equivocas, wit estudio literalmente uso mucho CGI y además cago varias escenas y no le fue fiel al manga
@@DiegoRicardo125 Bozo, wit studio did a great job, they didn’t screw up like you said. And you want to bring CGI into the conversation? Mappa only used CGI my guy
@@DiegoRicardo125
Bro Mappa did way worse, you are high. I swear Nappa fanboys are the funniest ever. They literally needed years to do an animation on the level of Wit
@@hououinkyouma3864 calla lame huevos de Wit studio
@@DiegoRicardo125 Stop talking in a different language if the comment that you are replying to didn't use it. Don't expect others to translate what you are saying.
MAPPA didn't animate s4 part 1 that good indeed but part 2 bruh mappa nailed it
part 1 has a lot of cover-up with 3D usage BUT DAMN THAT JAW TITAN EPISODE REALLY SHOWS HOW GOOD THEY ARE
Honestly with the time they had and the poor work conditions, MAPPA animators did a splendid job, final season part 2 had some incredible upgrade and i'm grateful that we are getting to see the end of AOT animated, we don't have the animation WIT had but we still have something, and if y'all are gonna whine like babies cuz they used CGI for some scene due to the little time they had then just don't watch it 😁 why are you still watching something you don't like?
I am sad. I miss wit
me too
Everybody too
@@user-kl5zy3rv3k Not everyone…
@@squiddyword7224 everyone
@@squiddyword7224 yes, everyone.
Remember what they took from you
We literally got this back in the finale, Arifumi Imai did a cut for MAPPA
Wit studio wins
The ocean is blue
Guys pls remember they didn’t have enough time, to animate properly that’s why it was bad, but in part 2 they actually made it good
You say that as if they didnt face production issues and time constraints with part 2 as well...
can u believe this WIT scene was made by 1 person and that same person made 90%of the good WIT odm scenes. look up arifumi imai
Thats kinda hard to believe because there were a ton of really good ODM scenes, its impossible for one person to have made ALL of them
@@bellion9143 i said 90% and also if u dont believe me look up arifumi imai on youtube and theres a 14 minute video of all of his works on aot
@@tater8960 You have to realize that most of those scenes are scenes that he just took part in, he didn't SINGLE HANDEDLY animate all of them.
@@bellion9143 no he made all the key frames and movements of the characters. I'm not saying he did the coloring and backgrounds
MAPPA's character desing is so good but WIT's animation is god tier.
Mappa has done a masterpiece in the latest episode where the eldians in the wall transform into titan
They nailed those 20 seconds with slo- mo and ost ✨✨
Nice spoilers, bootlicker
That's a cope.
Not hating on both studios. But for me. Wit studio suits well for me.. but mappa is also good. Got no problem with that
mappa in fantasy is awesome like fate or kimetsu but wit looks better in non magical fights
rera mappa didn't make fate and kny
Mappa had 2 weeks to make Aot final season part 1, Wit had 2 or 3 mouths to make Captain Levi vs Kenny. Mappa improved in part 2 and 3.
So don't take it then? It's not an excuse. Also, to be brutally honest, no they didn't get better. The movies were the only part which matched Wit's quality. You guys are literally in denial
They didn’t have 2 weeks to animate a whole part 1 of a season. Are you slow
@@shiftyz0152 I mean your right I was wrong 3 months for the part 1 but I think the second part was an improvement in animation. The CGI looked better but still looked goofy at times the odm gear scenes were better too not as two seasons but good.
@@juansendejar8300 they didn’t have 3 months either. if they had 3 months we’d be getting horrible animation. 3 months is quite literally impossible. Just say you don’t know hw much time they got.
@@shiftyz0152 you don't know hw much much time they got lol.
I preffer wit because over the past seasons mikasa's death stare to bertholdt is just pretty chilling to me till this day
is that your best reason? lol
@@hadyalbagu8615 the point being wit does much more expressive characters
Lol if Mappa had more time we could have gotten jujutsu Kaisen level of quality art and animation. We could have gotten one last amazing Levi scene in the forest vs all those titans before he gets blown to bits.
But we didn’t got it so wit>mappa
@@primitivling4410 well that's obvious I'm not debating that lol. But the second half of the final season is looking better so far.
Mappa fanboys always talk about "if mappa had more time". Even wit studio who made until 3 season of aot doesnt want to take the Project in a short time. I'd still give a big respect to wit studio who cares about the quality and their staff.
@@rifkiharahap7888 exactly , they just care about money
they know how big AOT is an even with crappy animations it will still make them alot of money
thats why some ainme starts with great animation and end with bad ones
@@rifkiharahap7888 no fan boys here. How does one even become a fan boy of an anime studio? I could see being a fanboy for an anime but not a studio lol. Anyways it was stated just how little time they were given. Of course anything being rushed won't look as good as seasons that were given to a better studio and had longer deadlines at least for the first couple of seasons.
I wish mappa and wit studio " work together" for animating AOT then this would have been the best thing every created.
They technically did in this final chapter.
@@thomasmaroney1892 They did not, it was just the freelancer/animators those who are willing to work for every studio.
Ok, the OMD scenes from Wit were better than those from Mappa.
But Mappa has far better CGI for Titans than Wit has.
And I find the overall directing of season 4 way better than the other seasons.
+ the artstyle got a huge upgrade in my opinion
brother what you sayin ? Mappa CGI is better ? 🗿 , you cappin bro Mappa titans look goofy and trash , Wit titans are far more well designed and their CGI is at peak in compared to Mappa lmao , adding just black lines doesn't make character designs good , + human designs almost look the same in Mappa , even at a few points Gabi looked more Eren than Eren himself. 😂
Mappa was good for S4 but Wit surely have been better , coz what Wit did in 2013 Mappa couldn't in 2020 🤷🏻♂️
@@ar1traa So, you think the CGI for the colossal titan in season 3 looked better than any titan in season 4 ? rly ? 😂
@@ar1traa So, you think the CGI for the colossal titan in season 3 looked better than any titan in season 4 ? rly ? 😂
@@ar1traa And yeah, Wit is an amazing studio, but i never liked the artstyle as much as the one, MAPPA delivers.
Which doesn't mean that MAPPA has an overall better animation. Wit definitely had a more fluid animation than MAPPA does, but The CGI looked like shit.
It just didn't feel like the colossal titan belonged to this world.
Whilst I think the titans in season 4 don't look very good, I do think that they look a million times better than the Wit ones ( CGI wise)
@@trashhero2071 brother aot was wit's first anime , so what they did was obviously remarkable. tbh in Mappa the facial designs are far better than wit but overall their lighting conditions are not good as compared to wit. and about the titans i think the wall titans animation and the collosal titan animation on s3 are on par , but do you really think that the eren attack titan vs annie female titan scene would have looked good with mappa's goofy titan cgi 💀??
The funniest part of this is that Wit didn't even animate this scene, they had freelancers to do it
that means Wit Studio freelancers can do a better job than Mappa Studio Animators.
Mappazzzzzz
@@haidilborhan364 freelancer don't belong to any studios
MAPPA does the same thing for their best scenes, they make freelancers do it. They had a freelancer do the rumbling scene, so whats your point?
There are countless odm scenes in the first 3 seasons and all were beyond perfection. Like whatever dude
People here are comparing these 2 different studio and forgets to appreciate the camera man on these scenes
On final season part 1, I prefer wit studio.
But Final season part 2 I think they improved a lot.
yeah that's right, mappa has started to use handdrawing in titan animation, and the animation in the 3D maneuver scene is also not inferior to wit
@@badboicuitm2351 , stop coping and rewatch s1-s3.
@@kiuhh1118 Did you even watch the latest episode? It had some of the best animated sequences in the enter aot anime
@@omkushwah7994 , it's average at best. Perhaps you really should rewarch s1-s3
@@kiuhh1118 Dude if you think the latest episode's animation was average then you might need an eye surgery no cap
Studio Changes are the Worst
Idc if people said "wEll iF mAPPA diDn'T aCCept It theRe wOulDn't bE A sEasoN 4"
Well f**k it. Season 3 ended beautifully and if it meant waiting four to five years for the final season then I would've waited. I waited 4 years for season 2 and it was one of the best seasons I've watched. Season 4 destroyed some of the great moments that I've read in manga. But what can you do, what's done is done.
Everyone is on Copium, just don't even talk about on how obvious the changes are.
It's even more apparent with the second season of vinland saga.
The zoom ins, the weird blur effects, Much blunt Less detailed characters when scene goes a little far away, iffy movements.
Even the Animated B rolls feel weird, it has its good moments (so far), yes, but overall the cinematic art direction, design and pacing are gone in the new season, yes some of the staff of season 1 are there but not the animation staff.
Well unless you pay them don't complain. Search how the life of animators in japan, they are very poor and struggling. Because people keep watching the anime for free.
@@adminsucks8806 no, they are poor and suffering because the dipshits who own most of these studios pocket most of the change
@@adminsucks8806 lol ***🤓
Fr I will always appreciate the animators but never the business men who create the studio changes due to terrible deadlines.If they would’ve given wit more time instead of an 8 month deadline then s4 would’ve been another masterpiece by wit
Hey man it’s hard to improve on perfection: and that’s exactly what Levi’s fight against Kenny was
I don't feel the rush of adraline the epicness in mappa version
agreed although I do think mappa did better with the look of the titans especially eren and reiner, but wit did better with the odm gear like levi's fight with the beast and his fight with kenny is still the best animated fight and coolest from aot so far
Mappa didn’t have a lot of time to finish it
@@DonDeDonDeDon yeah, but who forced them to take on AoT. we can judge on the material we have, and there's a big difference between the 2
@@DonDeDonDeDon wit didn't either
@@justsomeonehere884 mappa had way less time than wit did
Mappa is too stiff with their action. WIT is beyond perfect
Granted, you picked the best animated in all of AOT and compared it to when Mappa used 3D
Imagine if WIT studios animate Berserk.
That’s what I’ve been saying man WIT would be perfect for Berserk. It’s a shame they’re having a lot of financial issues rn
guys both are good can we not complain this was not made to hate or anything it was just there to show the diffrence
But theor Quality ist gar worden and disappointed me so much.lost the Joy in watching.first 3 seasons we're unbelieveable great in color,Animation,Speed and Quality of lightning.Wit is Stativ slow,simple, very few drawn Pictures per movement.jusz Looks so cheap.had wished to get brilliant animation.at least For the rumbling episodes
@@paul.p.smellthetruth2667 What
beast titan cgi looks funny asf. like ps2 character at 10fps
Gw kirain cuman gw aja yg ngeh🗿
When MAPPA took over the only character who didn't look weird to me was Reiner, everyone else had completely different faces 🤣
Well, if you read the manga, that's how they looks like-
This scene happens after a time skip, of course they would look different...This is exactly how they look in the manga too
@@remii4729 The manga looks so bad. I don't get why that is supposed to be a good counterpoint.
Let’s just be happy wit animated the first 3 seasons and did a damn near perfect job. Thanks to wit this anime has top 10 potential and will be remembered forever. I truly don’t like mappas style but at least I can always watch the old AOT.
Wit's use of shadow is lit
AoT fans not complain about the studio swap 4 seconds challenge
Watching the work of mappa.. It feeling like I'm watching a triple AAA game graphics which is not bad but wit studio is so much better
Wit's animation is on another level. Quite disappointed with Mappa's AOT. The series got so much potential. But the one to blame here is not the studio's, neither Mappa or Wit's. Its the producer, for giving such insane short amount of time to animate it. If they're agree with Wit's demand to hv more time, by now AOT could have given more profit and less backlash from fans
Mappa had to literally make new character designs, learn the style of the anime, deal with time and budget constraints, in the middle of a pandemic so yes I agree. If Wit did it, we would probably have to wait until like 2025 or something
I agree. If you watch jujutsu kaisen you'd see what mappa could do with full range and they're also making chainsaw man soon.
Even worse, the producers made that the deadline for the anime in general probs, so wit would’ve also had to do bad too
@@Hyvexx Nah probably only about 2022 or early 2023.
Honestly I don't feel bad for Mappa animation, but for me, Wit is better. Why did they have to change animators?
It took a toll on wit studio
I’m guessing that wit realized what was coming
I know it’s so sad but wit studio is small and lost a lot of money the year season 4 had to be released so they wouldn’t have been able to meet the deadlines.
Wit put their all into season 2 and thought they were getting a long break before working on season 3. That break didn’t happen.
1:05 Wtf it looks like a PS2 game😭