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There have been multiple large poker controversies over the past decade. This video will break down all of the poker controversies in just 55 minutes!
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What's the biggest scandal in the last decade of poker?
My 8 year old son beating me off of pocket aces with a low strait run out with 2/3. Or him bluffing me off my pocket k.
Mike postle commiting grand theft robbery on live television and still got away.
Postle for sure. Robbi close second
Postle for sure !
the biggest scandal?... to me is that nobody gets punished for cheating
Gold misunderstood that they were splitting 😂
Karma he didn't have same success after
People should question his integrity
He doesn't have any
IDK why phones are even allowed at a card table.
Yeah they shouldn't be
@@PokerBoomYT well actualy, there is "sort of" a simple anser to this. because nowdays people are so un social and intervert and (here comes the main reason) so god damn ADHD that hey cant handle not doing sometihng for hour, let alone a full day. iwe been a live player for 24 years and i hate people using any electronic device on table even now that i only play a homegames 80% use them and im like, (u could have stayed home to do that and blaah blaah) but im "old" generation of poker. it was called a gentlemans game then, now its called "i use anything to f up the opponent as long as i get my money". Just the way i see it now (most days).
Definitely should go back to the old rules where you have to get up from your seat to go on your phone.
Still to this day can’t believe not one person said hey you notice Postal keeps looking at his phone? I’m going to sneak behind him see what’s going on
If i didn't know what was going on but you showed me 10 consecutive hands of his i'd say " He keeps looking down at his crotch, what's down there anyway", WHAT ? ! his phone "?! 5,000 have watched this video, you should have at least 1,000 likes !
For sure. Put it (back) on the rail.
Exactly
Yes, and that tells me that it was a way more coerced effort than one or two guys. These scams just keep popping up. Hans Neiman also cheated in chess. I'm 100% sure about this. Yet so many take up for him. Without the public, you have no poker tournaments. The organizers are not hosting one because they are such sweet people. They are doing it because they make a fortune at it! It takes the public's support though. They can't even guarantee that everything is fair. There are corrupting spirits at work literally everywhere now. Everything that is made is suddenly double the price and last 20% as long as before. Long story short, these cheating scandals are a very organized effort with many in on it and making it nearly impossible to prove it. Like seeing someone's hole cards. There are only one source that that information goes to! That is so easy to track down, but strangely no one mentions this because it is a coverup from people higher up than the ones organizing a poker tournament.
until you suspect it's cheating then it is just a guy looking at his phone
Gold is just the worst.
Gold is the worst but his Main Event run was the craziest I've ever seen.
The chess master Zhou there's also a lot of speculations about her all-time highest rating. The rumor is that some of those tournaments are rigged to artificially increase her rating.
That's pretty much most chess grandmasters now lol. It's equivalent of undefeated boxing records and is a big problem in chess.
Who gives who money to buy into a tournament is nobodies business but the two involved parties.
Agreed. No issue here.
You would think so, but the tournament wants to know because in some cases it can be used as a form of cheating. There is a case where someone paid one or a number of players entry fee, the player paying the fees said that if they ever go heads up, the other player will auto fold regardless of the hand they have, which is basically giving him free chips, if the time arises. It did when they both was on the same table, so basically the tournament is saying it is ok, as long as it does not involve one player getting an unfair advantage over anyone else.
Lol yea, except they could be cheating together.
Well it literally broke rules so no... not true lmao
OK i would never cheat, HOWEVER, if i was to cheat i'd just play my regular game and then when the flush card or straight card hit the river , THEN i'd peek . postle couldn't even allow himself to take a beat! it's more than just stealing money, he crushed souls and ruined peoples confidence in themselves, unforgivable !!!
Robbi if she did cheat and was even halfway smart about it she should've stuck with the story she thought she had j3
I think she mistook her hand as being J3 but then changed her story during the hand cuz she was embarrassed by the mistake.
Whack that Postle cheated at low stakes for 250K 😂😂😂
The constant text full screen highlighting the script is really obnoxious.
Then go away
U produce the video then
So CLEARLY Postle was looking at something in his lap so have someone walk up behind him or the player next to him look over
Regardless of whether Gold was backed or not. He’s my least favorite player to watch. The way he patronized players during his WSOP win, drove me nuts. The most annoying player in history.
A polygraph test lmfao what is it 1960
He should give her money back first.
The Jack four hand anybody who legitimately won that money would have never given it back
Unless hou are looking for tik tok fame. By yourvlogic this mrans Mike Postle is innocent. He didnt return anything but Robbi did.
I don’t see how having a backed casts any doubt on your winning as a player nor why it’s even controversial.
3:06 JFC! Controversy, not his life story!
I normally dislike recycled content. But these videos are always beautiful. Great editing, suitin voice. Keep it up! 🤌🏽
I appreciate that!
15:40 “that’s for all the cheating you’ve done” -Legend
Robbi has not been through big ups and downs, she was a low end player at best playing against some big cash game players, I think they even explained that she was a last minute entry and given money so she had some chips to use during the game. Every high end player would accept an amateur to the table if they had the money to lose, they basically see then as cash machines because lower end players lose their nerves and fold to a big big raise or have too much money to worry about only having a small percentage to win a hand (too loose).
I wouldn’t trust Jamie Gold to pay me back $10…
How did that lady with J 4 cheat?
There is no evidence of her cheating. It's just that the play she made, and the things she said afterwards were kinda suspect. The play itself is weird, and when she's trying to explain her thought process it doesn't make any sense. A lot of people suspect her of cheating, other people think she just made a really bad play and got lucky.
What about Schindler? Never said how he cheated, he doesn't pay with a hat mask or sleeves, does he have x-ray contacts or something? 😂
How is the Jamie Gold thing even anything. I don’t get it
You savage for that outro lmao
There should be NO technology allowed at the tables. Phones should be put aside. No ear buds or any tech in the pocket. Patted down before we get to the tables
Games would be better too, people would be forced to socialize and open up
So if you get suspended from a online poker site, what keeps the suspended player from getting a guy or girl to enter the tournament, and the suspended person from sitting next to the guy or gal and tell them how to play a hand. Your invisible on a computer.
"you're"
... buddy , come on you should know this by now!
😉
@@AmbitiousAngel You messed up your punctuation.
@@AmbitiousAngelNo space needed after "buddy" if there's a comma following the word.
*go all-in with nothing*
*get called by slightly better nothing hand and lose*
"YOU CHEATED!"
Really weird, like he got caught lacking
If Robbi is gonna cheat why would she do it on a coin-flip call? Just doesn’t make sense.
so Postle just dominated everyone and they couldn't believe it... real inclusive sport
45:42 i would have never figured her for a straight up scam artist haha. she looks so unassuming 😂 her apology was basically an excuse for lying lmfao
I mean is it that crazy she put him on a busted straight/flush and called with a j4. I mean there is a such thing as rich suckers that arent always going to play ny the book and sometimes it works.
Brad Booth
39:55 "I was born in China, raised there until the age of 3" is such a weird sentence
Disqualify and ban the cheater, instruct the dealer, where‘s the problem?
These poker players are always winning thousands of dollars a hand, but they can't afford to pay a $10g buy-in on their own?
on the J4 hand wouldn't that mean that robbie KNEW the river card? i mean garret had tons of outs, if i knew his hand i don't think i could call.
Not necessarily. If she just knew that it was a flip, folding would be -EV. It’d be like having money in the middle, and your opponent betting to try to make you fold a river coin flip in which you have slightly better odds
@@vlet5995true but if you had that info you would have much better spots than a coin flip. I don’t think robbi knew the cards. It’s just so bizarre it doesn’t make sense whether she was or wasn’t cheating.
Against his actual hand she is an appreciable favorite and the call is profitable, but not knowing his hand she should frequently be a dog against his range of hands.
she's an airhead with a ton of money. not completely unfathomable she'd make a stupid ego call with jack high. i've seen worse, albeit not for as much money.
There are systems designed to just tell you what seat will win that hand without knowing what the other person has so she could have known she would win without knowing how much equity Garret had in the hand
Mr Gold was just Mr run good.
He should be in jail
It’s safe to say J4 ruined HCL for good. They tried to bring it back but no one wants to get involved with their bullshit anymore.
Bro HCL is doing very well still.
They regularly have nose-bleed games going on with no issue.
Even more than that: AFTER the scandal (8 months after at least) they had a few days where EVERY player on the table had to sit with 1 million dollars minimum.
@@AmbitiousAngel for the first day yes but every day after was 500k.
I don’t see the scandal
The third one just seems like a bad call that got lucky. I don’t see where the scandal is.
Gold is a snake , in the AA vs. KK hand against sammy Farha he tried to squeeze every nickel from sam he could get but when he realized the jig was up he begged for mercy, btw sammy kinda blew that hand by his reverse acting.
You shouldn’t be allowed to play under an alias.
Boski up on ACR cheating every damn night
Yes! Boski is an a-hole
how so?
@@kevdawg55 watch him up on twitch….. and just compare his live results vs online results. He plays with his nose open live. He scraps data and uses it in real time online. But it’s ACR I know it’s the wild Wild West. We all know Phil Nagy is a “stand up” guy right??? 😂 😂 😂
Yea how so? I am friends with Boski and have never seen him do anything unethical. If anything he makes sure games are run fairly and cares about the integrity of the game.
The most you could say about him that I would agree with him as that he can be a nit sometimes. Guess what though, that isn't against the rules. I do the same thing sometimes to increase my win rate.
So what exactly has Boski done that is unethical?
@@Haanski dude he scapes data and uses it in real time….. he use to glitch on his show screen now u can see him looking down at a separate tablet or phone. Of course if ur friends with the guy ur gonna say he’s squeaky clean but come on man
There was no debating whether postle was cheating or not.... it was clear as day
Yeah
If someone wins 250k playing 2-5 and 1-3 in a year...that's pretty obvious
Lol 30 million dollar suit
Jamie Gold is not a guy to trust.
Anyway Ms. Zhou endup gave the ticket to her boyfriend who is the owner of the poker promotional youtube called ECGAB. At the end she end up giving the ticket to her boyfriend/coach ayway. ECGAB account is fictitious.
Mike Postle didn’t cheat. Mike Postle is a poker god 😂
When Garrett saw that J-4 he was so dumbfounded he immediately started having flashbacks to his blindside on Survivor: Cagayan...
Gotta love a survivor reference
@@PokerBoomYT **agrees in Llama**
lol
Angelina Jolie has committed to playing robbie in the movie !
So he won you see 👀 it So whats the problem About Goldman
Why the fuck would gold need someone to put up 10k for him? How is he a gambler and doesn't have 10k
This is what i don't get either. He'd been playing and playing well for several years before 2006, so why would he even need someone to front him the 10k? And even if they did and he went back on his "deal" with his backer... who cares? That's between Gold and his backer, has nothing to do with how the play was at the tables does it? I mean did he cheat when playing the WSOP that year or is this "controversy" just over the agreement or non-agreement between him and some other dude? I mean, if he didn't cheat and he won it fair and square, then the contract with the backer is just other news and they can settle it or not.
Pros have backers all the dammed time to avoid variance. He wasn’t very good before the wsop main win he had and this video has incorrect bullshit thru the entire thing. First off, it’s not only legal and not in the rules whatsoever, to have backers. It happens for literally thousands of players each WSOP. Gold was still very much an amateur player at the time and had most of his money at that juncture tied up in his production company-which was his full time job before this tournament. The video shows several highlights but all of those were AFTER his main event win and he was extremely bad in the high stakes episodes he was on. It was commonly known that he was a big target for the cash game hustlers back then.
Bro every single poker player has backers, even today. You think they put their money up? Shows how much you know about the gambling world, stay away if you think like this. You'll literally lose your life with this mentality.
Not saying that Gold was right to not split his winning but you are a moron for thinking that backers aren't everywhere😂😂😂
@@poppadoc. "Lose your life", why would he exactly?
PS: the're plenty of tournament pros that don't have backers, especially online.
Robbi's device was in her "privates." The shit she found fascinating or unique during the course of the stream didn't really click with how poker works. Those signals were sent down low!
Lol "Gold's incredible poker skills"? He's a whale. I'm pretty sure he's punted off everything he won.
Postle
J4o is very close though
chan the man... mr. cool goat and terminator on close 2nd.... fuk gold
what is controversial about jamie gold ripping someone off? he's a reality TV producer and degenerate gambler, it's to be expected.
😂 that’s for all the cheating you did😂 goof
I gotta be honest the Jamie gold thing is so gd stupid yeah he’s a dick for trying to screw his friend out of money but how does that cast any doubt on him cheating in the game
Why is the Jamie Gold thing a scandal? Sure, the backing arrangement may have had issues, but there was no cheating in the game, so I dont get why the backing stuff matters in terms of actual playing / cheating / getting an unfair advantage controversy.
It's similar to Chris Ferguson stealing from thousands of people. Jamie just stole from one. Do you want to play poker against a thief?
@@jim0084 What that guy does on his time has nothing to do with me. What he does with his own money or who he doesnt give it to has no bearing on the game being played.
@@jimmyplenderleith9471 You didn't answer the question 😂
Your ducking him
what I always find funny is during the Garrett Jade hand, Ryusuke a known scammer/cheater is sitting at the table haha
Ryusuke wasn't at the table, but known cheater Phil Ivey was.
@@snowmonkey4863 Ryusuke was at the table
@@antzooma Ah yes, the guy who got staked and didn't pay people back... just like Tom Dwan.
How does Ryusuke being at the table during J4 warrant a comment but Phil Ivey doesn't?
Jamie Gold and Greg Raymer were two of the luckiest winners of the poker championship. Neither of them have zero skills. They won by nothing but luck.
1st
Hell yeah
Garrett couldn’t handle having his soul taken. I can’t take him seriously unless he gave the money back to her.
Postle, folded QJ off suit because the straight was out there. Is great fold considering cheating now? The person who said " i don't see how he folded that hand" the reason they are not a professional poker player 😂💯
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Robbi was ahead of Garrett the entire hand and called his bluff I don''t get the controversey He went all in with air
I dont get it either
She was actually behind the entire hand, and he didn't have air, he had an open ended straight flush draw. The controversy starts with the fact that her play is very bad. Best case scenario she was facing a coinflip (which was the scenario they were in), worst case scenario she is losing the vast majority of the time.
A bad play on its own is not necessarily controversial, but her explanation after the hand definitely made it controversial. She said she called because she thought he had Ace high, but she isn't beating Ace high, so that explanation makes zero sense.
There is no evidence of her cheating, so I don't think it's okay to claim that she cheated. However, she definitely lied about how she played the hand, which fueled the controversy. I think there is a real chance she misread her hand and was embarrassed to admit it.
@@mark5071 he went all in with air.
@@mark5071 no Mark whether it be on the flop the turn of the river and each of those points. Her hand was best. He went all in. He had nothing he was on a drawer. She had him beat. This is a guy who thinks he’s a genius and he wasn’t. Plus poker is basically a game that’s 90% luck anyway I don’t see what the big deal was. She thought he had nothing she was right.
@@nycitylifeandhistoryEvaluating who is ahead or behind is not about who can make the best hand in that moment, unless you're on the river. Pre-river it's about who has the most chance to win the hand based on the potential run-outs. You have no idea how poker works, which is fine, but you can either try and understand what my comment meant, or choose to be ignorant. If it's the latter, don't waste your time, because I certainly won't either.
Robbi had the best hand. Period. I have made lots of calls like that
Facts I don’t understand this one at all tbh
Well you’re a cheater or a terrible player
@@joshjaco221 No, you are just not a level that you can understand
@@MegaJman72you’re still losing to so many bluffs bozo
@@joshjaco221 Name calling? Typical, you clearly don't understand any aspect of the game
Robbi misread the hand, she thought she had J3 and was bluff catching with bottom pair. You can see her expression when she looks down at her cards once turning them over, but she was too embarrassed about it so tried to play it off as deliberate. It's just so obvious, and when you add that it's the only hand anyone has ever been suspicious about her playing and it being such a bad spot to call if you knew the cards, the situation should have never blown up.
she cheated. it’s blatantly obvious.
I don’t think she cheated. She’s just a bad player and has always been a bad player. You can’t play bluff poker vs bad players because they don’t know when to fold. Garrett has to learn that!
Fr she’s calling a raise with J4 off, like in what world is a pro calling with that. It’s clear she’s an amateur playing and caught a pro on accident 💀
"it's blatantly obvious"
Explain how, there's a delay so it had to be someone there. Who was it? How did they do it? And why that spot.
We'll wait.
bs she was in on cheating dont know what kind of help she had but...
Gold is one of the most unworthy winners of the World Championship. The fact that he cried and begged Farha to not bet his AAs all in when Gold had a losing pair of KKs should just tell you a lot about the guy. But before that, this bullshit of him backing out of an agreement to pay his share of the payout. Chan didn't need to coach him. Gold got the cards. No talent when you keep hitting. And i dont know about you guys, but i dont like the talking during a hand. So, Gold, Kassouf, and Martin Kobrehl are not good for the game.
Still confused why Robbi was accused
Then you’re invited to my home game 😂😂😂
Because woman called a famous man’s bluff of course she was cheating right
It honestly just seems like some of these are just people so mad that someone else won. Nobody likes to lose but being crybabies about it is so laughable like a 5 year throwing a fit they couldnt buy candy at the store
i know Robbie's gonna be here and i will say they definitely didn't cheat
So this garret guy was just a big cry baby. He is pathetic.
46:00 B GFYS