Jim Cornette Reveals His Ballot For The 2017 Wrestling Observer Hall Of Fame
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anyone else listening to this as they fall asleep right now?
Christopher G Freaking crazy, but yes. Cannot sleep, figured Corny and the post office playboy could help.
Not today but other bits while falling asleep
I listen to Corny shoots while I’m trying to sleep, cooking, long drives. I could listen to his stories all day.
Listen to jim and Brian every night while I try to go to sleep lol
Yes i am
Sputnik Monroe isn't in the WON HOF? what in the hell
Prepare your shit storm for when it happens, Jimmy. Kenny's going in.
I think the most legitimate point on here is that people like Goldberg or Trish, who are great in their own right, should not be put in any Hall of Fame before Guys like Junkyard Dog or Curt Hennig.
People like the biggest star in the compnay and damn near business or a romanced overselling jobber to the stars
Quit frankly...the Hall of Fame should be a place for the elite and truly elite. There is plenty of mediocrity in there.
Any more info about the Brody/Curry match?
Brody felt that Curry was too old (and small) to sell for, so he was extremely unprofessional -- quelle surprise! -- sold nothing and worked extremely stiff.
I always prefered the PWHF method of inducting its members. They break it down into two pioneer wrestlers, pre-TV wrestlers like Farmer Burns and Tom Jenkens, two early TV era, Lou Thesz and Junk Yard Dog, two modern era, post 80s names like Hulk Hogan and Stone Cold Steve Austin, a women's, an international, a tag team, and non wrestling categories, manager, referee, and executive. It always gives a good variety and actually gives a reason for the old guys to get their recognition. Plus it inducted Sky Low Low, the first midget popular enough to get a macro version of himself. Suck that Mascarita Dorada.
Did they just say Perfect is in danger of being dropped? Curt Hennig. Mr. Perfect. That has to be wrong. He's obviously a Hall of Famer easily.
What be the black image awards?
So everyone gets in?
As a kid I thought Pedro Morales was the most boring wrestler of all time
Looking back at the matches you can find of Pedro Morales, I never understood his mass appeal, except for the Spanish etc crowd. He was good, but, not that good to me.
I have wanted Bill Dundee in the WWE hof for years, but, hey, it’s the wwe, they do stupid things.
I was listing to Jim Cornette pod cast and thought I’d check you’re the wrestling observer hof.
Much to my surprise, I couldn’t find Bill Dundee. I understand wwe making such a sorry mistake,
but had always considered The Wrestling Observer legit.
Any H.O.F. is not legit, and doesn’t mean anything if they leave out competitors like Bill.
What are the reasons you feel Bill doesn’t qualify ? Is it his personality ?
Listen, I am from Tennessee, and am an extremely qualified pro wrestling historian.
AJ Styles ???? Kenny Omega ?????? Give me a break.
Bill Dundee -
Booker - A+
Performer - A+
Teacher - A+
Writing Finishes - A+
He carried every match he has ever been in, including , Billy Robinson, Nick Bockwinkle, Nelson Royal, Tony Charles, Jerry Lawler, Dutch Mantell, Austin Idol.
Heal or Face
Who do you think was telling the Midnight Express Jim Cornette, and the Rock & Roll express what to do ??
It was Bill Dundee. Anyone who thinks Bill Dundee doesn't need to be in all HOF's, is seriously showing their deficiency in wrestling history knowledge .
Network Essentials Well said man. It's been long overdue
a lot of people are hung up over his size. i don't see his size as a negative, especially when the people buying the tickets don't seem to have an issue with it.
Network Essentials
Excellent observation!! Being from Nashville, and watching from late 70's through the early 90's, Dundee and Lawler with Fargo and Jarrett as mentors are WRONGLY being left out.
Network Essentials
Realistically though he's not going to be in all Hall Of Fames especially for promotions where he never wrestled though conceivably he could get in WWE's at some point.
Realistically ? Ahamed
That's the kind of lack of knowledge, I'm talking about, Bill Dundee only worked , Nick Gulas / Jarrett, Jim Crockett, Jim Barnett, Verne Gagne , Bill Watts, Fritz, Danny Hodge, Buddy Fuller, Eddie Graham , not sure if you understand that, but it's pretty much every Federation, Alliance, or Association who has ever promoted a professional wrestling match, on this planet. Except Vince Jr.
Realistically ? Ahmed that's why if any HOF that leaves out people like him, realistically dont have any credibility .
Because it shows a complete lapse in knowledge. Google a few of those names, Ahmed
AJ doesn't draw money? reigns doesn't draw money? rollins ambrose, balor don't? gotta disagree with jim. some of those guys sell tickets. people go to see them. and if they don't. they all sell a FUCK ton of merch.
AJ obviously dominated TNA, you can almost argue he dominated New Japan and now he's dominating WWE. He's been a professional wrestler since 1998. It's not like he's some new guy who was just trained, be's been around for 20 years.
But he didn't draw any money. That was Jim's point.
@@cptnmrgnkid I don’t know, I think his merch numbers say that he kind of was/is a draw…
I'm thinking how do you get the Four Horsemen into the won HOF? It has to be the Tully & Arn team! Yeah they changed the line up often but this team is the one everybody remembers. Its like asking who do you put in for the Midnight Express? There were 4 that people remember! Do you go Dennis & Bobby or Bobby & Stan or all 3! and do you just ignore Randy?
Jimmy Hart was huge in the WWF during Heenan's time.
i don't know if i'd agree that jimmy had a bigger career in memphis than he did in wwf. not downplaying his memphis run, but he worked big events in wwf..
and yes heenan was the main event heel manager in wwf, many of his guys worked hogan throughout his time there..
sorry for the multiple comments, not trying to blow anyone up, i promise. but hart's wcw run is hugely overlooked. he was part of some main event angles there, just a shame no one cared about hogan in the years prior to his heel turn to the nwo..
all true, but as a performer and entertainer, he worked in front of a lot more people with wwf. more people know the name jimmy hart based on his work in wwf.
tim mutohfan true. I can see arguments for both sides. Based on your name, you are a fan of Keiji Mutoh. What about that? Keiji Mutoh or Great Muta? He's more known worldwide for being Great Muta, but he has arguably accomplished more under Keiji Mutoh.
You know. I think I've heard of a couple of those guys. But at the other end the spectrum. I wouldn't hold my breath. But I think two maybe even three members of the godfather's ho train aren't in yet.
Cornette says nobody draws money! Jesus Christ! If I generate $2 million in merchandise with just my name on it and my action figure sells half a million, plus I'm featured on a show that generates $200 million from TV, I'm a WAY bigger draw than the guy that sold out Memphis, Evansville, Louisville every week. Cornette thinks Sears in the 70's was bigger than Amazon today...
phillip martin I’d be willing to bet that Cena generates that type of money off merch sales. I know business is hurting right now but let’s not pretend they aren’t drawing any money
78bcat what's wrong with Sears?
Sorry WeCoolWeCool, Cena's been drawing up until this very day. Not only until 2011, even though you have this odd insecure hate for him, he draws more than anyone has in 15 years after Stone Cold retired. Hate him or love him, he sells out arenas.
Sorry 78bcat, but other than Cena and Lesnar, there isn't a wrestler that if they do a live show in your area, that most fans who can't go, go "damn, I can't go and I'm gonna miss so and so", they'll only do that for those 2. People will buy tickets just to go see them. There were a lot of guys who used to be able too that. Taker, Stone Cold, Rock, Triple H, Flair, Steamboat, etc. Not even Shawn Michael's could draw in the 90s. Says a lot, right? Yeah
No...not really. The insecurities are actually manifesting from for inability to face reality here, mark. Cena draws like MySpace draws. He's not the show anymore and hasnt been for a very long time.
Styles is HOF all day. I hope he gets a run in aew.
Is Mr Wrestling 2 seriously not in the HOF? He’s way before my time but any wrestling fan over the age of 25 knows who he is. Very odd that he’s not in
im socked it took so long for MiSu to get based on his impect on things wider than pro wrestlling she should habb een ion one of th first clsees cuase of this the same with sakuraba
Ragnarok was disappointing!
Gow 3 nine plus bosses!
Ragnarok had five bosses! That counts king and queen!
RAGNAROK IS A MESS! From a story telling pov.
I WILL DEBATE ANYONE ON THUS MATTER!
KRATOS IS SO UNDER POWERED.
U CANT EVEN HYPERION GRAPPME A BISS WITH NO FN ARMOR! TOOK OUT THE RUNIC VERSION!
SOOOOOOOO WEAK!!!
Or Bill Dundee, a HOF without those names, looses all credibility, that HOF means nothing without those names
Network Essentials
How does it "loose" credibility exactly?
Oh, come on...I like Dundee, but there's no way he's a "no-brainer" HOF. That's like saying the Baseball HOF has no credibility because it doesn't have Dave Parker in it, and I'm not sure Dundee's HOF case for wrestling is as strong as Parker's for baseball.
pronkb000 The Cobra is a hall of famer damn you! 😁
The only Hall of Fame that really matters. WWE hof is such a joke I'm surprised Donald Trump isn't an inductee. Oh wait...
Knocks Trump but calls people "queers", quite the person to throw stones.
Hahaha playing the "I'm not homophobic, I have gay friends!" excuse, You making quite an account of yourself.
Wishing death on people now too? I bet you have a wonderful life, so wise and enlightened
Lol I can tell you think very highly of yourself and 'wise' and 'enlightened' are your favorite words. But I hate to break it to you buddy but you're neither of those things. And yeah I wish death on anybody that supports trump. No different then a mosquito dying.
Cornette just demonstrated why the WOF HOF doesn't matter. At least WWE recognizes huge draws like Slaughter and JYD. The WOF HOF inducted AJ Styles, someone who couldn't draw flies to week old garbage.