This was called "kaleidoscope" its a great movie... He brakes into the playing card factory and changes the card design with his own markings, inableing him to read the cards... Very well done, could stand a modern remake..
The premise of the story is laid out in the Time Life book "The Gamblers". During the 19th century, an Indian tribe bought cards from the local store, marked them, and then returned the cards. Then they invited another tribe to a card game, and I guess had them stop at the store to pick up a deck of "new" cards, just to be "fair".
@@stevenwalker9013.it is.. when I was 22 year old just graduated I got hired by a big company and my first salary was 4 times the last I got, without bonuses and commisions.. I was crazy going out with girls and parties, traveling around the world, meeting beutiful girls everywhere,, but I could save enough to buy 2 apartments in the best places of my city, unfortunatelly I got divoced and I had to split with my ex wife in half.. so my advice is.. no matter if you are rich or poor, as long as you are single, you are in the safe side..!! But, if you get married but buy your stuff under the name of your parents or brothers.. then you will avoid to split your money with your wife.
Some of it is current industry standard, but he only riffles twice before the cut, whereas today we would wash (as he did), riffle twice, strip, then riffle again, and finally, cut. His distribution (sliding the cards) is seen more commonly in the UK and Europe today, but you would be unlikely to see it used in a stud game in the same way he delivers the upcards to the players.
Incredible acting -you just have to watch the facial expressions of the actors to read what is going through their minds. They don't make them like this anymore. 📽👍
@@heleneschenbacher8512 its not really a spoiler because if you watch the movie the first thing that happens is Beatty breaks into the card printing factory to alter the printing plates....so the premise is laid out right at the start of the movie, telling you that now would only be a spoiler if that fact was revealed at the end of the movie..but we know right from the start..so...it shouldn't spoil your enjoyment of the movie at all, it is not a mystery that he is cheating.
I think Eric Porter steals the show far more than Warren Beatty. When I look at Portmer here I realise that he would have been a first class James Bond villain.
Why is it that in every single poker scene in any film, the first person to show their cards ALWAYS loses? You can tell who's going to win any hand simply by who shows last.
Not only does the loser show first, but out of turn - after calling the final raise. I reckon the loser shows first because otherwise the scene loses continuity. If the winner shows first, the scene then needs to explains why the losers shows at all. If the loser shows anyways, after virtually admitting defeat already, the element of "surprise" is lost.
I've never seen this movie, just these scenes on TH-cam. He looks vastly different as a young man but now that I see it, I can't unsee the Professor. "I can promise you one, but not the other"
I LOVE poker scenes! Cincinnati Kid, Rounders, Casino Royals w Daniel Craig--although some reviewers thought it boring! Off topic--Carly Simon’s song “You’re So Vain?” She finally admitted it was written about Warren Beatty! What siblings! Beatty and sister Shirley McClain who thinks she’s been reincarnated a thousand times! Ha!
What about "The Sting"? Of all "poker scenes" from film, the poker scene on the train is my absolute, hands-down favourite!! If you're not familiar with it, here it is... th-cam.com/video/_mrNhIxOGzw/w-d-xo.html
@@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid Are there any poker scenes where the play is correct? Poker seems to be like period transport; film-makers always get it wrong.
@@tooleyheadbang4239 Closest I've seen is "Lucky You". It's a pretty bad movie overall, but the play itself is very realistic. Many of the hands shown are actually based on real life hands.
So Carly Simon finally said who that song was for? And it was Warren Beatty. And yeah he was and still is vain. That’s actually nice to know. I was wondering who was it for. Was it for James Taylor or jagger or Beatty. Thanks for the information
I would love to play in a competition where the players got to choose their own game each hand. "A minimum of ten pounds, a maximum of twenty thousand pounds. Any questions? Then gentlemen the table is right. Seven players." "Mr Jordi?" *"52-card Pickup."*
@@michaelgove9349 it was a thrill I took just 200£ and announced when I lost it I was out.vthey were nice about and I organized lots of deliveries for them. Haha
The title should have been included. It is the movie: Kaleidoscope from 1966. The entire movie is on TH-cam. Look for the Arabic symbols from the uploader. Obviously he doesn't care about copyrights or TH-cam's regulations which is most wonderful.
for rich people it's like getting slapped around when the portier has to show them out.and when that happens being viewed as a poor loser is the fastest way to never again play somewhere.rich like rich who don't cry about minor losses like this.if you do cry then you must not be one of them.do you still wish the portier to show you out?
Considering that a deck can be stacked to ensure a specific person wins the hand no matter where the cut happens, a cut of the stub in the middle of the hand seems an effective means of stopping this.
I just looked up the cast. Blonde woman died, sad. The two poker players are in their late 80s. The blonde looked so good here but really old now. The brunette looks so different when he's older than here. Completely different person. His acting on facial expressions was perfect here.
I think he said "cagnotte" (similar to the "rake" in poker ) In Baccarat, the _cagnotte_ is the fee the Casino takes after every betting round. He probably meant to say "no rake".
wow thankyou so much this has been bothering me for years. I thought it was maybe a French word for blind or ante something of that nature, nice one thanks.@@PSColdFire
Really? I was able to shrug that off as being a cardroom-specific procedure. But when the dealer started hounding the Brit to answer a fackin YUGE raise on the end after like 5 seconds of thought, I started calling "nope" pretty fast. 😂
There are a lot of poker scenes in movies like this one where people face a big bet/raise of more then they have in play and have to find that money somewhere to call. I always wonder if it has ever been that way in real life or if this is just the lack of knowledge of the movie makers. It feels like total bs.
eric wsmith Paul Newman's hustling scene on a train - that was an unprecedented performance and the most realistic poker scene you can see in films. It is my hobby to check how realistic the gambling scenes are in films and The Sting is the most superior by a huge margin.
@@simonpankvelashvili7620 --So of course you looked at the scene in the Sting when Newman was playing with the cards on the train with Redford in slow motion , if you look real close, he was dealing off the bottom , or at least they had some "stunt" hands doing it . It was not easy to see on VHS, but it was real. idk why , some editing would have had the same affect , but it was the real (dirty) deal . Excellent movie
eric wsmith Sure, that was another brilliant scene, but I must reiterate - the poker scene at the train was so close to real life scenes as it gets. I have seen many films with very famous actors, huge budget and big names that are crap from a gambler's point of view - e.g. Casino Royale with Daniel Craig ( all poker scenes). So, "the Sting" is the best in depicting the real life alike gambling atmosphere, the second place goes to Cincinnati Kid (Lancey Howard only). Just when I remember Paul Newmans controlled "uncontrolled" loughter with "you owe me 15 grand, pal" it brings so many personas from my own stories, mostly semi-pro or recreational players, suddenly hitting the winning streak... Not sure who was their consultant but man, he nailed it!
I hate it when movies have poker players pulling out new money, writing checks, or leaving to get more money in the middle of a hand. I've played lots of cash games and they are all table stakes - you can add more between hands but who would play a game in which another player could suddenly bet theoretically any amount?
This would be a normal gentleman's game. It's still actually table stakes since he only called the amount bet. I've played in cash games where this has happened several times. The real issue is where they show a player not having enough to cover a bet so he's forced to fold. That's not table stakes and of course would never be a game to play on unless you had the most money. I've heard people argue that " you can't add money blah blah blah" the truth is there are no laws governing poker games. The rules are enforced by the players or the host. If one player has a lot more than another and announces all in or bets over what his opponent has then the opponent is not obligated to put in more than he has on the table, however if the player says I will cover the bet the option returns to the bettor. Would you like the full call or table just what is on the table. It's a gentleman's agreement, a side bet if you want and no rules prohibit it being done. Neither player can force the other to fold or call more than they have in front of them. Mostly you see it as an angle where a player has only so much on the table but then tries offer to play for more. You limit your risk from coolers while retaining the ability to get maximum value. The rules prohibiting it are there to prevent anyone from being forced to call but they don't actually prevent or prohibit two players from agreeing to play for more. If you watched high stakes poker when it was a show on TV you saw a few times where bets were pulled back or lessened as a courtesy between players. Card rooms and casinos do not allow this because it can be used as collusion. I bet way big so everyone else folds, you call and I offer to play for less. One of us will win but if we are playing together it doesn't matter which. We just don't necessarily want to break each other. In a way allowing a player to match a bet prevents the big stack bullying and buying pots. It prevents that old west idea that i can just bet you out of a pot because you can't afford to call. In a casino I was the bb, utg straddled after losing two coolers in a row, definitely tilted and playing a half buyin. Everyone called to me, I look down at AJ off and think about raising. It's very likely the rest of the table is also aware this player is tilting so I can easily see someone slow playing a big hand. I feel confident the utg is not going to just check so I call instead of isolating. Utg of course jambs for 50 some bbs more. It folds back around to me, last to act. I ask the player if he would like to pull back half and i will call. The table gets all bent out of shape including the dealer who says i can't do that. I calmly inform the dealer and every other player at the table that this is a heads up hand, they have no stake or interest in the hand and they cannot tell the other player or me what we can or can't do. If at the end of the hand he returns part of my money or I return part of his it's not your business or concern and what transactions we make between ourselves is not regulated by you. We can do it later in the parking lot or the next day if we choose and there's not a damn thing you have to say about it. If the utg player had offered to cover me as a side wager between the two of us then what right do any other players have to prohibit that? Ultimately as expected the utg player declined saying let's play for it all. I didn't care so much about the amount of money as much as his reaction to my question. I called and he showed KJ. I won and asked that the next time I asked an opponent a question during a hand, anyone not in the hand should really stay out of the hand. It's like asking how much do you have left and three others replying for the player. STFU, I want his reaction, I have eyes and can count myself. Anyway the rules of private games can vary from the casino but the rules that are enforced even in a casino are only for player protection. There isn't some lawful authority that makes and enforces laws. The gaming commission in states that have one only have authority over licensed establishments. So even though I get what you're saying and I agree that those are the standard rules used in most games they can be altered or varied by agreement. I've played in games with a table minimum, if you drop below something like a half buy in you have to reload, but that's very rare. My real point is, rules are what we agree they are, if you're not involved don't be the cry baby on the sidelines saying " they can't do that" . When your in the hand or it's going to affect the game feel free to challenge the rules or the action. If not, let others live their lives and you live yours, quit thinking you have a right to tell others what to do. Because that's the mentality I get when I hear someone saying that's against the rules. Who gives a fuck, tell me why it's not permissible, a harm caused or how it effects others. It's your job to stand up for yourself, to leave a game you can't beat, to accept you lost or to call when you have the best hand. You don't have to match the bet from off the table but sometimes you might want to. Sorry if I insulted you, I don't know you and I understand what you were saying. I just happen to know you're wrong but it certainly does open up some doors when rules are changed mid game. Clearly in this game it was well within the rules because no one objected. Perhaps it's Hollywood licensing or a depiction of actual games. The fact is you and I were not in the game or effected by the act. Those who were didn't have an objection so why would you?
@@eshootziscrs2868 You wasted a LOT of effort there, sport. The reload depicted in this film would not happen in any regulated table stakes poker game anywhere on Earth today. There were scattered examples of a game structure similar (but not identical) to this in boomtowns of the mid-1800s American west, but that's about it. Your rant is completely out to lunch.
@@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid Oh boy, we have a troll who isn't too bright. You say regulated???? By who, what authority? This is clearly a private game and despite what you might believe in ignorance the rules are what they make them? You didn't seem to notice the "string bet/raise. Most rooms would not Allow that and for a reason that many people don't understand. The player added on to match the stack not buy the pot. Of course this is legal, lawful and clearly allowed in this game. Why do you contradict yourself and insist on displaying your ignorance by attacking me? You had nothing real or useful to say you only chose to address an old post to find an argument. One you are clearly ill equipped to engage in. If this wasn't ok, then the authorities would have come rushing in and put a stop to it. They didn't because THEY DONT EXIST. Here's a question for you. You and I sitting $10k deep. You bet $500, I announce $3,500, you jam before I move my chips. I call. There are only your $500 chips in the middle. Board comes out, you win. I pick up my chips and leave. What happens? Do you think you can force me to pay? Do you think the house has the authority to force me? Will the cops come and make me pay? Would you sue for the money? You figure that out and then tell me all about these imaginary regulations and authorities you dream about. Toodles
You can play with an ante but original rules is no ante and Hi card opens the betting if you want to challenge then go a head lol its just the way it is People moaned at 5 card draw why do i have to put an ante to get dealt bad cards. So when they invented stud poker the Hi card opens the betting people cant complain about putting in money with bad cards lol
@@jeffreypeterson3238 I gotta say as a poker player myself who is hella new to five card stud, even I would easily clean out that dude who is all "the four is gone!" and shit in that game
Yeah, he thought it was a bluff. I think stud is pretty cool in hollywood movies, but in real life it's just garbage hand after garbage hand. Draw is the best imo
Well, as he said, he thought the 4 was gone. Given that, aces over another pair should've won out over anything else. It was a bad misstep, but understandable given the characterization.
I absolutely love the lack of music in this scene. It's so quiet. Just the sounds of cards being dealt and limited dialogue.
I also like the sound of the plaques.
That's a subtle observation.
There's music playing after the 2 minute mark, though.
Film making is a lost art.
@@robertmorris8997 No, it just changed, as it always has.
This was called "kaleidoscope" its a great movie... He brakes into the playing card factory and changes the card design with his own markings, inableing him to read the cards... Very well done, could stand a modern remake..
great scene, but movie sucks
Wow awesome premise
The premise of the story is laid out in the Time Life book "The Gamblers". During the 19th century, an Indian tribe bought cards from the local store, marked them, and then returned the cards. Then they invited another tribe to a card game, and I guess had them stop at the store to pick up a deck of "new" cards, just to be "fair".
So, in other words, all the shuffling of the cards are kind of useless?
Breaks
"So hard to be young and rich all at the same time". I'd like to try it though!
I would take either!! Lol
@@stevenwalker9013.it is.. when I was 22 year old just graduated I got hired by a big company and my first salary was 4 times the last I got, without bonuses and commisions.. I was crazy going out with girls and parties, traveling around the world, meeting beutiful girls everywhere,, but I could save enough to buy 2 apartments in the best places of my city, unfortunatelly I got divoced and I had to split with my ex wife in half.. so my advice is.. no matter if you are rich or poor, as long as you are single, you are in the safe side..!! But, if you get married but buy your stuff under the name of your parents or brothers.. then you will avoid to split your money with your wife.
Eric Porter's facial expressions are priceless.
@Uhhh The chief hood who looks like Napoleon.
@@tonycoxall3561he pretended to be like him
Who's the Asian guy? I've seen him in other stuff.
Warren Beatty is so cool, even when he isn't cheating which, of course, he is.
Thank you.. to whoever.. for not censoring every hand containing a sinful, loathsome,, cigarette :o
How was he cheating?
@@NIK-to3xs Those are first generation X-ray glasses :)
@@NIK-to3xs Did you really not notice the zoom onto the card patterns?
@@billbaggins1688 i did notice that but i have no idea what it's implying, can you elaborate please?
great :) i like the actors game ,i feel the spirit when man lost ,the eyes,the posture the emotions:))) i like it:)
I like the way the dealer deals.
Very posh
agree, wish I could do that
Some of it is current industry standard, but he only riffles twice before the cut, whereas today we would wash (as he did), riffle twice, strip, then riffle again, and finally, cut. His distribution (sliding the cards) is seen more commonly in the UK and Europe today, but you would be unlikely to see it used in a stud game in the same way he delivers the upcards to the players.
Thanks for posting. This is from Kaleidoscope (1966) which he did right before Bonnie & Clyde of which he is best known.
He sucks
He's best known for the best movie he was in, and that was 'Heaven can Wait'.
The actor played a long-lasting role as Sam Ballard QC in the greatest British legal comedy Rumpole, in the 1980s and early 1990s.
Just the way he says it”Check” seems so arrogant and perfect like he could care less, love it!
Instead of complaining about the 4 I'd be wondering how my Ace of clubs turned into Ace of spades. See 4:00 and then 6:18
Amazing catch. Great eye
Good observation, we live in a simulation...
Well spotted.
Lol
Bad editing or a wink and a nod to the audience about how ludicrous the plot was?
I love this Old Genre
Incredible acting -you just have to watch the facial expressions of the actors to read what is going through their minds. They don't make them like this anymore. 📽👍
The dealer has some skills; badass and very deliberate.
The brat lost: the moment he realized he was a side character.
A great scene. Thanks for the video.
Soundtrack of the 60ties .....classic
1966 film. ( September release ) Nearly 57 years ago. Boy how time passes.!!...Great card game...along with the betting tension.
Hard to believe it’s been that long.
Interestingly, the way Beatty cheated is, he snuck into the playing card factory at night, and altered the printing plates.
Oh thanks for the spoiler you jerk! But the glasses are a dead giveaway he was cheating.
@@heleneschenbacher8512 its not really a spoiler because if you watch the movie the first thing that happens is Beatty breaks into the card printing factory to alter the printing plates....so the premise is laid out right at the start of the movie, telling you that now would only be a spoiler if that fact was revealed at the end of the movie..but we know right from the start..so...it shouldn't spoil your enjoyment of the movie at all, it is not a mystery that he is cheating.
The unmistakable voice of the great l Eric Porter.
I shall stand up to him and more!
Take notice of the pictures of Napoleon Bonaparte behind Eric Porter.
why?
Явор Ганев he played Napoleon a few years after this movie.
@@ЯворГанев-е1в It's forshadowing. Napoleon got beat.
@@makeit7579 so did the Eric Porter character. A double Waterloo
That one guy at 1:07 taking a drag on his cigarette looks like the chess player in 'From Russia With Love' - Kronstein.
Beatty looks like a thunderbird puppet
I always thought he was a shit actor... vastly over-rated.
@@FastEddy1959 He is *outstandingly* shitty!
He's more ridiculous than overacted spoofs.
"Bugsy" was atrocious because of him. :(
I think Eric Porter steals the show far more than Warren Beatty. When I look at Portmer here I realise that he would have been a first class James Bond villain.
I agree. He would have been perfect for Casino Royale in the Sixties but instead it was made into a silly comedy.
Yes Kevin,... Porter radiates sophisticated intelligent malice here... All the prerequisites for a good Bond villain or a Professor Moriaty.
He did play professor moriarty - in the TV series Sherlock Holmes with Jeremy Brett.@@robertwilson123
Why is it that in every single poker scene in any film, the first person to show their cards ALWAYS loses? You can tell who's going to win any hand simply by who shows last.
The gambler, rounders, the cincinatti kid, macgruber, were a few exceptions to this
Rounders tho
Not only does the loser show first, but out of turn - after calling the final raise. I reckon the loser shows first because otherwise the scene loses continuity. If the winner shows first, the scene then needs to explains why the losers shows at all. If the loser shows anyways, after virtually admitting defeat already, the element of "surprise" is lost.
@@sgtforge21 love how you included MacGruber
The only two pair I would bet on is Raquel Welch and Ann-Margret.
And I might double down!!
I didn't recognize Eric Porter at first. I've only seen him in one other role, Professor Moriarty in "Sherlock Holmes" with Jeremy Brett.
I've never seen this movie, just these scenes on TH-cam. He looks vastly different as a young man but now that I see it, I can't unsee the Professor. "I can promise you one, but not the other"
@@ballzblue22 Now when Warren Beatty comes in I keep thinking "Ah, Mr. Lincoln... You have less frontal development than I expected."
I LOVE poker scenes! Cincinnati Kid, Rounders, Casino Royals w Daniel Craig--although some reviewers thought it boring!
Off topic--Carly Simon’s song “You’re So Vain?” She finally admitted it was written about Warren Beatty! What siblings! Beatty and sister Shirley McClain who thinks she’s been reincarnated a thousand times! Ha!
You may be interested in a video series I've got planned.
I'm going to review scenes from movies which include poker and/or poker culture.
What about "The Sting"? Of all "poker scenes" from film, the poker scene on the train is my absolute, hands-down favourite!!
If you're not familiar with it, here it is...
th-cam.com/video/_mrNhIxOGzw/w-d-xo.html
@@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid Are there any poker scenes where the play is correct?
Poker seems to be like period transport; film-makers always get it wrong.
@@tooleyheadbang4239 Closest I've seen is "Lucky You". It's a pretty bad movie overall, but the play itself is very realistic. Many of the hands shown are actually based on real life hands.
So Carly Simon finally said who that song was for? And it was Warren Beatty. And yeah he was and still is vain. That’s actually nice to know. I was wondering who was it for. Was it for James Taylor or jagger or Beatty. Thanks for the information
Great connection to Blakes 7 here and from that episode a connection to "Ripping Yarns" Moorstone Manor... Lost on the moor!!
I would love to play in a competition where the players got to choose their own game each hand.
"A minimum of ten pounds, a maximum of twenty thousand pounds. Any questions? Then gentlemen the table is right. Seven players."
"Mr Jordi?"
*"52-card Pickup."*
Oh it is difficult. Some people pick wierd games. I have seen car keys go down at dawn in a basement in Hampstead.
@@jonathanport7427 I've never played "Car keys go down at dawn in a basement in Hampstead" but it sounds a _great_ game.
@@michaelgove9349 it was a thrill I took just 200£ and announced when I lost it I was out.vthey were nice about and I organized lots of deliveries for them. Haha
The title should have been included.
It is the movie: Kaleidoscope from 1966.
The entire movie is on TH-cam. Look for the Arabic symbols from the uploader. Obviously he doesn't care about copyrights or TH-cam's regulations which is most wonderful.
What movie is this?
I wish I had a portier showing me the way out when I bust out on PS.
for rich people it's like getting slapped around when the portier has to show them out.and when that happens being viewed as a poor loser is the fastest way to never again play somewhere.rich like rich who don't cry about minor losses like this.if you do cry then you must not be one of them.do you still wish the portier to show you out?
@@tonynelligan1930 Rich people are all pigs.
I live this soundtrack
had to watch it twice but Beatty couldn't loose.
I can't help it but my main thought is how everything and everyone in that room would have the stench of stale cigarettes
They're doing a remake where Phil Ivey plays Punto Banco - to be filmed at Crockfords in Mayfair
Keith McIntosh why the swith from poker to baccarat though?
Probably because Poker is not played in the best London casinos.
Weird how much taking of the glasses does for his looks!
That ginger guy LMAO "RIZE A HUNDRED"
That hair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ 3:05 "Rise" lol
It's RAISE you stupid fuck not rise!
The most ceremonial way to get kicked out of a poker game
Kaleidoscope?
4:00 the dealer says he has a pair 4's but the scene only shows a 4 and 1 ace ? weird
He sais Raise of 500“ pounds too the pair of 4s. which warren
has
💝😍🐰🎥WARREN
Puuuuuurrrrrrrrrrr
"I had trips."
If you are wearing headphones turn the sound down at commercial break!
Col. Rodans Waterloo.
They dressed up and playing quietly
Considering that a deck can be stacked to ensure a specific person wins the hand no matter where the cut happens, a cut of the stub in the middle of the hand seems an effective means of stopping this.
Angling at poker Level god, signing a paycheck while looking your opponent reaction.
СПАСИБО ЗА ПРОСМОТР 👍,ПОКУПАТЬ НЕ НАДО 👏
*Although only in 360p If you cross Eyes it looks like 4K Today !*
Is Warren Beatty doing like a Hunter S Thompson thing here? Or is he high or something in this scene?
Name the muvie plz?
I just looked up the cast. Blonde woman died, sad. The two poker players are in their late 80s. The blonde looked so good here but really old now. The brunette looks so different when he's older than here. Completely different person. His acting on facial expressions was perfect here.
Holy crap. I commented this when I was wasted drunk. Wow. Can't believe I drank for more than 4 years. I need to drink less.
what film is that?
Watch the whole movie.
No entry, no carrot..
I am gonna do my hair like that from now on....
My friend likes explaining the rules of uno before the game starts...
OMG IT’S JUSTIN HAMMER FROM IRONMAN.
Some really nice camera work.
What does he mean by Caniot at 0:49?. I cant find any reference to it.
I think he said "cagnotte" (similar to the "rake" in poker )
In Baccarat, the _cagnotte_ is the fee the Casino takes after every betting round.
He probably meant to say "no rake".
wow thankyou so much this has been bothering me for years. I thought it was maybe a French word for blind or ante something of that nature, nice one thanks.@@PSColdFire
if you can't afford to lose - DON'T PLAY. The late john Junkin was the porter. Oh! and was Eric Porter doing his best Napoleon impression?
He had a Napoleon complex it looks like, judging by his hairstyle and all the Napoleon paintings in the room.
Am I blind, or does Beatty have one ace and one four showing in that closeup??? Instead of two fours?
So stringbetting is no problem and bringing more money into the hand is allowed?
Anyway, Texas Hold M is a better game for poker in movies
we all just wanna play poker in an old movie. But time travel is only fun when you have money, lol being poor even in the 80s or 90s is fucking hell
was the 4 gone?
💖
Me n the boys on poker night at my place
I cringe to see that dealer gather the deck with the cards facing himself. Other than that, great scene!
Really? I was able to shrug that off as being a cardroom-specific procedure.
But when the dealer started hounding the Brit to answer a fackin YUGE raise on the end after like 5 seconds of thought, I started calling "nope" pretty fast. 😂
Ear plugs is the e answer my friend
7:30 whispering "the 4 was gone."
what is the tile of this movie
The Duke of Lonestock.
Kaleidoscope
There are a lot of poker scenes in movies like this one where people face a big bet/raise of more then they have in play and have to find that money somewhere to call. I always wonder if it has ever been that way in real life or if this is just the lack of knowledge of the movie makers. It feels like total bs.
I didn't get any of that list
_can someone tell me what is the name of this movie please.?_
Kaleidoscope
@@tommym321 : _Tommy, you are wonderful. Thank you so much. Take care of yourself, and stay safe_
Don,t even hold a candle to Paul Newman in the "sting"
eric wsmith Paul Newman's hustling scene on a train - that was an unprecedented performance and the most realistic poker scene you can see in films. It is my hobby to check how realistic the gambling scenes are in films and The Sting is the most superior by a huge margin.
@@simonpankvelashvili7620 --So of course you looked at the scene in the Sting when Newman was playing with the cards on the train with Redford in slow motion , if you look real close, he was dealing off the bottom , or at least they had some "stunt" hands doing it . It was not easy to see on VHS, but it was real. idk why , some editing would have had the same affect , but it was the real (dirty) deal . Excellent movie
@@simonpankvelashvili7620 ,, and yes pissing off your opponent aint a half bad strategy !
eric wsmith Sure, that was another brilliant scene, but I must reiterate - the poker scene at the train was so close to real life scenes as it gets. I have seen many films with very famous actors, huge budget and big names that are crap from a gambler's point of view - e.g. Casino Royale with Daniel Craig ( all poker scenes). So, "the Sting" is the best in depicting the real life alike gambling atmosphere, the second place goes to Cincinnati Kid (Lancey Howard only).
Just when I remember Paul Newmans controlled "uncontrolled" loughter with "you owe me 15 grand, pal" it brings so many personas from my own stories, mostly semi-pro or recreational players, suddenly hitting the winning streak... Not sure who was their consultant but man, he nailed it!
RAYZE
Raaaayyyyyzzzzeee!
The guy sat next to you, has the other four
I hate it when movies have poker players pulling out new money, writing checks, or leaving to get more money in the middle of a hand. I've played lots of cash games and they are all table stakes - you can add more between hands but who would play a game in which another player could suddenly bet theoretically any amount?
This would be a normal gentleman's game. It's still actually table stakes since he only called the amount bet.
I've played in cash games where this has happened several times.
The real issue is where they show a player not having enough to cover a bet so he's forced to fold.
That's not table stakes and of course would never be a game to play on unless you had the most money.
I've heard people argue that " you can't add money blah blah blah" the truth is there are no laws governing poker games. The rules are enforced by the players or the host.
If one player has a lot more than another and announces all in or bets over what his opponent has then the opponent is not obligated to put in more than he has on the table, however if the player says I will cover the bet the option returns to the bettor.
Would you like the full call or table just what is on the table.
It's a gentleman's agreement, a side bet if you want and no rules prohibit it being done.
Neither player can force the other to fold or call more than they have in front of them.
Mostly you see it as an angle where a player has only so much on the table but then tries offer to play for more.
You limit your risk from coolers while retaining the ability to get maximum value.
The rules prohibiting it are there to prevent anyone from being forced to call but they don't actually prevent or prohibit two players from agreeing to play for more.
If you watched high stakes poker when it was a show on TV you saw a few times where bets were pulled back or lessened as a courtesy between players.
Card rooms and casinos do not allow this because it can be used as collusion.
I bet way big so everyone else folds, you call and I offer to play for less. One of us will win but if we are playing together it doesn't matter which. We just don't necessarily want to break each other.
In a way allowing a player to match a bet prevents the big stack bullying and buying pots. It prevents that old west idea that i can just bet you out of a pot because you can't afford to call.
In a casino I was the bb, utg straddled after losing two coolers in a row, definitely tilted and playing a half buyin.
Everyone called to me, I look down at AJ off and think about raising.
It's very likely the rest of the table is also aware this player is tilting so I can easily see someone slow playing a big hand. I feel confident the utg is not going to just check so I call instead of isolating.
Utg of course jambs for 50 some bbs more.
It folds back around to me, last to act.
I ask the player if he would like to pull back half and i will call.
The table gets all bent out of shape including the dealer who says i can't do that.
I calmly inform the dealer and every other player at the table that this is a heads up hand, they have no stake or interest in the hand and they cannot tell the other player or me what we can or can't do.
If at the end of the hand he returns part of my money or I return part of his it's not your business or concern and what transactions we make between ourselves is not regulated by you.
We can do it later in the parking lot or the next day if we choose and there's not a damn thing you have to say about it.
If the utg player had offered to cover me as a side wager between the two of us then what right do any other players have to prohibit that?
Ultimately as expected the utg player declined saying let's play for it all.
I didn't care so much about the amount of money as much as his reaction to my question.
I called and he showed KJ.
I won and asked that the next time I asked an opponent a question during a hand, anyone not in the hand should really stay out of the hand.
It's like asking how much do you have left and three others replying for the player. STFU, I want his reaction, I have eyes and can count myself.
Anyway the rules of private games can vary from the casino but the rules that are enforced even in a casino are only for player protection. There isn't some lawful authority that makes and enforces laws. The gaming commission in states that have one only have authority over licensed establishments.
So even though I get what you're saying and I agree that those are the standard rules used in most games they can be altered or varied by agreement.
I've played in games with a table minimum, if you drop below something like a half buy in you have to reload, but that's very rare.
My real point is, rules are what we agree they are, if you're not involved don't be the cry baby on the sidelines saying " they can't do that" .
When your in the hand or it's going to affect the game feel free to challenge the rules or the action. If not, let others live their lives and you live yours, quit thinking you have a right to tell others what to do.
Because that's the mentality I get when I hear someone saying that's against the rules. Who gives a fuck, tell me why it's not permissible, a harm caused or how it effects others.
It's your job to stand up for yourself, to leave a game you can't beat, to accept you lost or to call when you have the best hand.
You don't have to match the bet from off the table but sometimes you might want to.
Sorry if I insulted you, I don't know you and I understand what you were saying. I just happen to know you're wrong but it certainly does open up some doors when rules are changed mid game. Clearly in this game it was well within the rules because no one objected. Perhaps it's Hollywood licensing or a depiction of actual games.
The fact is you and I were not in the game or effected by the act. Those who were didn't have an objection so why would you?
The rich.
@@eshootziscrs2868 You wasted a LOT of effort there, sport.
The reload depicted in this film would not happen in any regulated table stakes poker game anywhere on Earth today.
There were scattered examples of a game structure similar (but not identical) to this in boomtowns of the mid-1800s American west, but that's about it.
Your rant is completely out to lunch.
@@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid
Oh boy, we have a troll who isn't too bright.
You say regulated????
By who, what authority?
This is clearly a private game and despite what you might believe in ignorance the rules are what they make them?
You didn't seem to notice the "string bet/raise. Most rooms would not Allow that and for a reason that many people don't understand.
The player added on to match the stack not buy the pot. Of course this is legal, lawful and clearly allowed in this game.
Why do you contradict yourself and insist on displaying your ignorance by attacking me?
You had nothing real or useful to say you only chose to address an old post to find an argument. One you are clearly ill equipped to engage in.
If this wasn't ok, then the authorities would have come rushing in and put a stop to it. They didn't because THEY DONT EXIST.
Here's a question for you.
You and I sitting $10k deep. You bet $500, I announce $3,500, you jam before I move my chips. I call. There are only your $500 chips in the middle. Board comes out, you win.
I pick up my chips and leave.
What happens?
Do you think you can force me to pay? Do you think the house has the authority to force me?
Will the cops come and make me pay? Would you sue for the money?
You figure that out and then tell me all about these imaginary regulations and authorities you dream about.
Toodles
eric porter should have be in a bond film blowfelt bad casters to blame
Bedtime story
Interesting hair
Do you know what's the green drink Warren Beatty is having here? Thankyou
Absinthe
Chartreuse maybe or Creme de Menthe - If its absinthe he isn't drinking it properly. Chartreuse is similar
Beatty is drinking Curacao.
@@safromnc8616 whats the right way to drink absinthe?
Good acting antidote.
He chugged that shit daily for his entire inexplicably-existent career.
Покер..Омске..да..долоры..недостолся..
Can Beatty, withis magnifyinglasses, see if the cards are marked and read them?
Yes he can. That's what the glasses are. Read chris mac's comment above your
Thank you. He would not be able to see very far. Lucky the bettor wasitting next him.
Name of movie?
Kaleidoscopy..! An underrated British movie from the 60s.
No Texas Hold Em?!
Not in 1963
If he was sure the 4 was gone then he would have raised because no card other than a 4 beats his aces up.
The max bet was $20,000 which beatty already raised him
Funny how this used to be a high roller game. I play stakes this big every Sunday at the Victoria in London haha!!
There’s no ante, so what’s the point?
You can play with an ante but original rules is no ante and Hi card opens the betting if you want to challenge then go a head lol its just the way it is People moaned at 5 card draw why do i have to put an ante to get dealt bad cards. So when they invented stud poker the Hi card opens the betting people cant complain about putting in money with bad cards lol
@@Au79-q2t stud has an ante
Why was the guy so sure the 4 was gone? There are 3 showing and nobody folded one... I dont get it.
He misread the hands that folded. Thought he saw a 4
@@jeffreypeterson3238 I gotta say as a poker player myself who is hella new to five card stud, even I would easily clean out that dude who is all "the four is gone!" and shit in that game
Because he just got owned for 20grand lol
I have and it is hard
I see
If you lose, you shall pay it with your life.
2 things: I didn't know Rachel Maddow played poker and that guy was in LaLa Land for calling 20k with Aces over Tens
Yeah, he thought it was a bluff. I think stud is pretty cool in hollywood movies, but in real life it's just garbage hand after garbage hand. Draw is the best imo
Well, as he said, he thought the 4 was gone. Given that, aces over another pair should've won out over anything else. It was a bad misstep, but understandable given the characterization.
It appears he was mistaken.
As was I.
Yeah 2-pair is kind of meh in Stud
All you kids out there know who Buddy Holly was? Beatty looks just like him with the glasses.......
It's a heartbreak Holly died too young along with Ritchie Valens