@@Faceless1andonly dude you should look into supernatural the characters are literally capable of wiping out all the characters from the TVD universe and literally demon dean winchester can kill hope without much difficulty because of the mark of cain and hope wouldn’t even be able to remove the mark because it is made out of god magic like it is so dark like literally dark as hell
It's so insane that then Klaus first appeared we all thought that he was Apex Predator that he was ultimate threat of The Originals but Klaus has since been way surpassed as the ultimate vampire or hybrid with many , hell his own daughter Hope has surpassed him but I'm sure Klaus doesn't mind his daughter Hope being more powerful than him hell I'm sure Klaus is very happy and proud of it.
@Faceless1andonly I know right 😅😂 and of course Alaric became a enhanced Original and that was just in Season 3 of TVD so Klaus was already getting mauled by somebody else and he was still a relatively new character 😂😂
@oxanatarashchuk4598 oh yeah forgot about Mikael 😂😂, yeah Mikael might be slightly more powerful than Klaus because there's a reason Klaus never dared to fight him for 1000 years and some will argue yeah but that's before Klaus activated his werewolf side and became a hybrid which yeah true but I think if Klaus, Elijah and Rebekah had teamed up on Mikael they probably could have taken him but nope they always ran lol
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Upgraded originals also can use magic and have a unseen beast form, I remember Vincent telling marcel he hasnt begun to tap into that unknown power, he also compelled elijah
@@ShockToYoSystem Upgraded Originals can’t use magic, Lucien was being helped by the Ancestors, that wasn’t actually Lucien, upgraded and likely enhanced originals can compel regular originals but you need to weaken their mind first through magic
@@millasboo The thorns is only lethal because of the supervenom and it can’t be used on Marcel, it’s specifically stated to only kill the originals, Marcel’s venom can’t work on himself seeing as it’s embedded in his dna, if the Hollow wanted Marcel dead she will just steal the dagger
Imagine if Rebekah or Freya were original heretics, especially Freya, she would be unstoppable, even Klaus won’t be arrogant, cos he knows his older or baby sister can send him night night for centuries. Freya💜is my favorite original sister and in close second is Rebekah❤️
10:25 that’s actually incorrect they say directly that the enhanced original and upgraded are physically superior to the original’s. The only thing arguably comparable was hybrid klaus and the tribid stuff
@@millasboo Actually Ken outright said he can’t hence why he went to Jen, also in the simulation they just say “you’ll lose” or “he defeats you” they never say he can kill her, just beat her
@@Faceless1andonlyTo be honest they were saying in the simulation that her life force was depleting, going down to percentages. It was just assumed that Ken could eventually kill her given he was a God and the most powerful of the bunch, but Hope is just so durable and powerful that literally nothing besides red oak can kill her.
@ Yh Hope can be taken off the board as the power can still affect her, it just can’t kill her outright, I think Hope said that after she went to Limbo when Ken beat her into a coma. She doesn’t die but enough power can drastically weaken her to the point that she becomes a non-factor and can’t fight, which is likely what the percentage is referring to. Both Ken and Hope said that they can’t kill her without the red oak
the only conflict I have is that the super venom wouldn't work on Alaric. the bite is only lethal to the Originals due to addition of white oak being added along with the werewolf venom, which is why the og originals didn't have a venomous bite. and since the bite lethality hinges on the white oak, Alaric would be invulnerable to it as his immortality isn't tethered to the white oak but to the doppelganger's life
Actually the bite has nothing to do with white oak. Lucien created the bite long before creating the serum with Vincent and Freya. The White Oak like the regular Originals is for immortality. If it was White Oak that made the bite lethal then Freya wouldn’t have been able to create a cure because you can’t dispel the white oak, Kol explained that in season 2, so there’s no way anyone can cure someone with the white oak in their system without forcibly removing it from their body. The cure was also just the blood of members of the 7 original clans merged into 1, which evidently points to the fact that the bite is lethal because it’s the purest werewolf venom you can possibly create and its lethal to any vampire
Also the white oak kills originals in less than a minute the venom takes hours and the way they die look completely different also it’s sort of confirmed by Michael Narducci (who wrote the episode Alaric became an Original and was the showrunner of The Originals) that it’s lethal to even Alaric
@@Faceless1andonly Lucien's werewolf venom only showed the ability to kill regular vampires tho, the first time it was shown to kill an original level vampire was after he became a beast, which involved the white oak also being thrown into the mix. yes the white oak is what gives the original level immortality but it can also take it away
@ because he never used it on an original, he can’t test it on them. He has to capture them first somehow, Lucien wanted to create a supervenom that even bypasses every possible cure, so it bypasses even originals, not to mention we actually know it has nothing to do with the white oak stake because Kol knows how to briefly dispel it and Freya would’ve said it’s white oak and white oak is incurable and kills in less than a minute not hours like the supervenom
Lucien even states to elijah that they are not immune to death at the time we found out he had a cure for werewolf venom also lucien tried to completely eliminate the malrow wolf blood line to ensure his venom can't be cured,lucien only had two reasons why he did not use the venom on the originals first he can't use it on klaus coz he'll also die and if he were to succeed and use it on elijah or rebekah then klaus would just kill him,he wanted to better and stronger than klaus and when he found the prophesy it confirmed his plan was gonna work,the thing about whiteoak is that it is necessarily for the original spell.as stated by lucien "under the shade of the infamous whiteoak tree where esther mikaelson turned each of her children,i want to replicate that spell". Each time an original,enhanced og or upgrade is to be turned the spell is performed at this location.
What about Alaric when he came back from the other side? White didn’t do sh!t to him pre Elena’s death, it just stopped him for a moment and pissed him off
@@Testimony201 I mentioned when he came back from the other side. He wasn’t made using white oak so it won’t affect him. Everything else I said would kill him, is still correct. It’s already confirmed the venom is deadly to Alaric and therefore so is the thorns, magic can kill him, the barrier nearly killed him
Remember that what made the venom really deadly to the originals was the Addition of a white oak bullet by Lucien when the serum was about to be created. I doubt the bite of Marcel, Hope’s older brother would be lethal to her, since white oak doesn’t nothing to her. Yeah it might hurt but it won’t kill her. Plus hope has two werewolf clans venom.
@@Testimony201 It actually has nothing to do with the white oak bullet, the bullet was just required for the serum for immortality as Lucien was replicating Esther’s spell. The venom is just the most powerful form of werewolf venom. If it was white oak then there would be no cure. It’s unknown if it can kill Hope but having genes from 2 clans, still isn’t 7. Hope’s blood also couldn’t cure the bite like what happened with Klaus’ blood
Hope should destroy that red spear permanently and destroy even the ashes. Making her truly immortal. Even with the spear hidden with so much cloaking spear that an entire witch bloodline can’t remove it, she can blitz and manhandle anybody, she’s more ruthless than Klaus and Kol.
They started messing originals up when they started just outright making copies of them and making people superior like how you gonna make someone superior to the people who made the whole species a thing and who was the first ? Like where does that make since obviously it could’ve been people who could’ve fought them but stronger nah was weird
I mean to be fair The Originals were the top dogs for over 1000 years no one could touch them so The Originals finally having people that can challenge them actually make things interesting and actually scary because sometimes now we don't know if The Originals can get out of a situation alive because now that there are vampires/ hybrids that are just as powerful or more powerful than them and now they have to actually try to stay alive
@@roderick8167nah that’s facts I think it just was the fact that they gave that super venom concept and that it could take them out at any moment it was crazy to me and to see marcel bullying elijah was crazy lol
Best vampire lore ever , the scream creator developed the vampire diaries so anyone with a brain knew this show no matter what was going to be very compelling, Damon, Stefan, Alaric, Katherine, rose, Trevor, Elijah, klaus, Kol, Rebecca, Finn, Mikael all of them have soooo much to add to this rich lore given to us via Kevin Williamson the rest was easy to do until they did legacies didn’t have any input from Kevin Williamson and was a joke and not canon to me but Tvd and the originals are sooooo good
I'd like to see spin-off about delena daughter Stephanie salvatore later on future spin-off because Julie revealed that she team are definitely work on new spinoff based on legacies original vampire diaries?
I love the original, my favorite show and it’s the best in tvd universe, I wish they were more specific on the mythology of the vampires. Like the true differences between Alaric upgrade and the beast, other that the venom it’s not clear, because the rules also state that age is a factor in strength but Alaric was automatically stronger than the originals. So any immortality spell can make a vampire stronger than the originals or is it age and how’s that work. Plus can the beast make more beast vampires or is it just one shot serum because of werewolf venom.
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@Faceless1andonly Despite an upgraded original being extra powerful than klaus, klaus blood is the only blood that can cure a werewolf bite. This still makes klaus some kind of superior and special in the TVD universe.
@ Yes Klaus’ blood along with I believe Hope’s blood are the only way to cure a werewolf bite, Klaus was still intellectually superior to them anyways hence why they won
Upgraded originals also can use magic and have a unseen beast form, I remember Vincent telling marcel he hasnt begun to tap into that unknown power, he also compelled elijah
The best show in the tvdu for a reason 🙏🏾
@estek5720 100%
@@Faceless1andonly dude you should look into supernatural the characters are literally capable of wiping out all the characters from the TVD universe and literally demon dean winchester can kill hope without much difficulty because of the mark of cain and hope wouldn’t even be able to remove the mark because it is made out of god magic like it is so dark like literally dark as hell
@@KING-OF_BEASTS Yes I know, I’ve finished supernatural
@@KING-OF_BEASTS Hope can't be killed and magic from different universe is not guaranteed to work it is up to the writers
@@KING-OF_BEASTS
Supernatural fell off after season 5, just became silly
It's so insane that then Klaus first appeared we all thought that he was Apex Predator that he was ultimate threat of The Originals but Klaus has since been way surpassed as the ultimate vampire or hybrid with many , hell his own daughter Hope has surpassed him but I'm sure Klaus doesn't mind his daughter Hope being more powerful than him hell I'm sure Klaus is very happy and proud of it.
@@roderick8167 At one point Damon was the most terrifying being but that drastically changed 😂😂
@Faceless1andonly I know right 😅😂 and of course Alaric became a enhanced Original and that was just in Season 3 of TVD so Klaus was already getting mauled by somebody else and he was still a relatively new character 😂😂
@ 😂😂😂
And then Mikael showed up 😂😂😂
@oxanatarashchuk4598 oh yeah forgot about Mikael 😂😂, yeah Mikael might be slightly more powerful than Klaus because there's a reason Klaus never dared to fight him for 1000 years and some will argue yeah but that's before Klaus activated his werewolf side and became a hybrid which yeah true but I think if Klaus, Elijah and Rebekah had teamed up on Mikael they probably could have taken him but nope they always ran lol
I love ur editing style it’s so unique, pretty and also cool af. As always a good work analysing this great universe.
@@LadiesWhoFight2.0 Thank you so much, really appreciate it
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@@everettparker1313 Indeed and thanks
Upgraded originals also can use magic and have a unseen beast form, I remember Vincent telling marcel he hasnt begun to tap into that unknown power, he also compelled elijah
@@ShockToYoSystem Upgraded Originals can’t use magic, Lucien was being helped by the Ancestors, that wasn’t actually Lucien, upgraded and likely enhanced originals can compel regular originals but you need to weaken their mind first through magic
12:35 It does though Marcel was worried about the thorns and his blood wasn’t a viable option for a cure until a more comprehensive spell was used
@@millasboo The thorns is only lethal because of the supervenom and it can’t be used on Marcel, it’s specifically stated to only kill the originals, Marcel’s venom can’t work on himself seeing as it’s embedded in his dna, if the Hollow wanted Marcel dead she will just steal the dagger
The red oak is able to kill hope but its rarer to find then the white oak
And only one is left, which Hope can permanently destroy and be truly immortal.
Imagine if Rebekah or Freya were original heretics, especially Freya, she would be unstoppable, even Klaus won’t be arrogant, cos he knows his older or baby sister can send him night night for centuries. Freya💜is my favorite original sister and in close second is Rebekah❤️
10:25 that’s actually incorrect they say directly that the enhanced original and upgraded are physically superior to the original’s. The only thing arguably comparable was hybrid klaus and the tribid stuff
@@millasboo Yh I said they were superior
15:31 It can kill her but overtime. They both ran a simulation. The problem is Ken couldn’t it’s just he didn’t have enough firepower
@@millasboo Actually Ken outright said he can’t hence why he went to Jen, also in the simulation they just say “you’ll lose” or “he defeats you” they never say he can kill her, just beat her
@@Faceless1andonlyTo be honest they were saying in the simulation that her life force was depleting, going down to percentages. It was just assumed that Ken could eventually kill her given he was a God and the most powerful of the bunch, but Hope is just so durable and powerful that literally nothing besides red oak can kill her.
@ Yh Hope can be taken off the board as the power can still affect her, it just can’t kill her outright, I think Hope said that after she went to Limbo when Ken beat her into a coma. She doesn’t die but enough power can drastically weaken her to the point that she becomes a non-factor and can’t fight, which is likely what the percentage is referring to. Both Ken and Hope said that they can’t kill her without the red oak
the only conflict I have is that the super venom wouldn't work on Alaric. the bite is only lethal to the Originals due to addition of white oak being added along with the werewolf venom, which is why the og originals didn't have a venomous bite. and since the bite lethality hinges on the white oak, Alaric would be invulnerable to it as his immortality isn't tethered to the white oak but to the doppelganger's life
Actually the bite has nothing to do with white oak. Lucien created the bite long before creating the serum with Vincent and Freya. The White Oak like the regular Originals is for immortality. If it was White Oak that made the bite lethal then Freya wouldn’t have been able to create a cure because you can’t dispel the white oak, Kol explained that in season 2, so there’s no way anyone can cure someone with the white oak in their system without forcibly removing it from their body. The cure was also just the blood of members of the 7 original clans merged into 1, which evidently points to the fact that the bite is lethal because it’s the purest werewolf venom you can possibly create and its lethal to any vampire
Also the white oak kills originals in less than a minute the venom takes hours and the way they die look completely different also it’s sort of confirmed by Michael Narducci (who wrote the episode Alaric became an Original and was the showrunner of The Originals) that it’s lethal to even Alaric
@@Faceless1andonly Lucien's werewolf venom only showed the ability to kill regular vampires tho, the first time it was shown to kill an original level vampire was after he became a beast, which involved the white oak also being thrown into the mix. yes the white oak is what gives the original level immortality but it can also take it away
@ because he never used it on an original, he can’t test it on them. He has to capture them first somehow, Lucien wanted to create a supervenom that even bypasses every possible cure, so it bypasses even originals, not to mention we actually know it has nothing to do with the white oak stake because Kol knows how to briefly dispel it and Freya would’ve said it’s white oak and white oak is incurable and kills in less than a minute not hours like the supervenom
Lucien even states to elijah that they are not immune to death at the time we found out he had a cure for werewolf venom also lucien tried to completely eliminate the malrow wolf blood line to ensure his venom can't be cured,lucien only had two reasons why he did not use the venom on the originals first he can't use it on klaus coz he'll also die and if he were to succeed and use it on elijah or rebekah then klaus would just kill him,he wanted to better and stronger than klaus and when he found the prophesy it confirmed his plan was gonna work,the thing about whiteoak is that it is necessarily for the original spell.as stated by lucien "under the shade of the infamous whiteoak tree where esther mikaelson turned each of her children,i want to replicate that spell". Each time an original,enhanced og or upgrade is to be turned the spell is performed at this location.
What about Alaric when he came back from the other side? White didn’t do sh!t to him pre Elena’s death, it just stopped him for a moment and pissed him off
@@Testimony201 I mentioned when he came back from the other side. He wasn’t made using white oak so it won’t affect him. Everything else I said would kill him, is still correct. It’s already confirmed the venom is deadly to Alaric and therefore so is the thorns, magic can kill him, the barrier nearly killed him
@@Faceless1andonlytrue tho.
Remember that what made the venom really deadly to the originals was the Addition of a white oak bullet by Lucien when the serum was about to be created. I doubt the bite of Marcel, Hope’s older brother would be lethal to her, since white oak doesn’t nothing to her. Yeah it might hurt but it won’t kill her. Plus hope has two werewolf clans venom.
@@Testimony201 It actually has nothing to do with the white oak bullet, the bullet was just required for the serum for immortality as Lucien was replicating Esther’s spell. The venom is just the most powerful form of werewolf venom. If it was white oak then there would be no cure. It’s unknown if it can kill Hope but having genes from 2 clans, still isn’t 7. Hope’s blood also couldn’t cure the bite like what happened with Klaus’ blood
Hope should destroy that red spear permanently and destroy even the ashes. Making her truly immortal. Even with the spear hidden with so much cloaking spear that an entire witch bloodline can’t remove it, she can blitz and manhandle anybody, she’s more ruthless than Klaus and Kol.
@@Testimony201 The ashes would always exist in tiny forms so hiding it would be the only way
They started messing originals up when they started just outright making copies of them and making people superior like how you gonna make someone superior to the people who made the whole species a thing and who was the first ? Like where does that make since obviously it could’ve been people who could’ve fought them but stronger nah was weird
@@PlutoxClipz True but I do think Marcel’s storyline in season 3 was one of the best in the show
I mean to be fair The Originals were the top dogs for over 1000 years no one could touch them so The Originals finally having people that can challenge them actually make things interesting and actually scary because sometimes now we don't know if The Originals can get out of a situation alive because now that there are vampires/ hybrids that are just as powerful or more powerful than them and now they have to actually try to stay alive
@@roderick8167nah that’s facts I think it just was the fact that they gave that super venom concept and that it could take them out at any moment it was crazy to me and to see marcel bullying elijah was crazy lol
@@Faceless1andonlyI could agree
Best vampire lore ever , the scream creator developed the vampire diaries so anyone with a brain knew this show no matter what was going to be very compelling, Damon, Stefan, Alaric, Katherine, rose, Trevor, Elijah, klaus, Kol, Rebecca, Finn, Mikael all of them have soooo much to add to this rich lore given to us via Kevin Williamson the rest was easy to do until they did legacies didn’t have any input from Kevin Williamson and was a joke and not canon to me but Tvd and the originals are sooooo good
I'd like to see spin-off about delena daughter Stephanie salvatore later on future spin-off because Julie revealed that she team are definitely work on new spinoff based on legacies original vampire diaries?
It better be good this time.
I love the original, my favorite show and it’s the best in tvd universe, I wish they were more specific on the mythology of the vampires. Like the true differences between Alaric upgrade and the beast, other that the venom it’s not clear, because the rules also state that age is a factor in strength but Alaric was automatically stronger than the originals. So any immortality spell can make a vampire stronger than the originals or is it age and how’s that work. Plus can the beast make more beast vampires or is it just one shot serum because of werewolf venom.
Please please please do how powerful is Vincent Griffith
id love to seee a vd bout sirelines
@tahaboom4518 I’ll have to think about how I can extend that into an extended video
Bro can you do a vid about teen wolf seices
I probably have to finish Teen Wolf first
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Upgraded original can compel regular originals. What about enhanced original?
They probably can too but like the upgraded originals they would need a witch to weaken the original’s mind first like what happened with Elijah
@Faceless1andonly Despite an upgraded original being extra powerful than klaus, klaus blood is the only blood that can cure a werewolf bite. This still makes klaus some kind of superior and special in the TVD universe.
@ Yes Klaus’ blood along with I believe Hope’s blood are the only way to cure a werewolf bite, Klaus was still intellectually superior to them anyways hence why they won
They can remember marcel compelled elijah to forget everything
Upgraded originals also can use magic and have a unseen beast form, I remember Vincent telling marcel he hasnt begun to tap into that unknown power, he also compelled elijah