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They probably can too but like the upgraded originals they would need a witch to weaken the original’s mind first like what happened with Elijah

I probably have to finish Teen Wolf first

@@lordodinaesir7643 Which mythology problem? The Gods one, you can try to explain it but I assure you it’s a plot hole also Sebastian being alive, you can try to explain it but I assure you it’s a plot hole, the afterlife dimensions Yh no

@@lordodinaesir7643 1. Jen claimed the reason Ken came to her was specifically because of his fear of Malivore’s memory wipe ability, Ken himself stated that a few of the Gods were consumed, if they were consumed then Jen will know that the ability doesn’t work on them so wouldn’t assume the reason why Ken is coming is specifically for the memory wipe ability

@@lordodinaesir7643 2. Sebastian’s plot is pretty simple he should be dead, he was in Mystic Falls for over 480 years meaning he would’ve been there during the Mystic Falls magic purification spell, he’s a vampire so he should be dead, I know you might say he was underground but so was Stefan and Elena and the spell still worked on them

@@lordodinaesir7643 3. With the afterlife dimensions there’s too much stuff to go through in the comments

@@loveatfirstglow24 I did mention both having monotonous issues because the writers refuse to change characters but unlike Damon, Stefan regular character archetype is the exact same as almost every main character/good guy, Stefan becomes a great and entertaining character when the show leans into his more darker side but the show just refused to explore that like past season 3 and just make his character basically a non-factor outside of Elena and then they began a thing with Caroline and his character and his story became strictly Caroline, which is an insane drop off from Stefan vs Klaus in season 3

@ they definitely handled his character unjustly but I still think he’s the best. I like nice guys so that never bothers me. I find it hilarious when people say Damon had the most growth and I’m like when. Everyone just have different opinions, no problem.

@ Oh I never said Damon had the most growth, Damon also falls into the same category as Stefan too 1-note, pretty much all of the main characters were mishandled

@ I never said you did. I don’t agree with your assessment of Stefan but it’s your page and you’re entitled to your opinion.

Actually the bite has nothing to do with white oak. Lucien created the bite long before creating the serum with Vincent and Freya. The White Oak like the regular Originals is for immortality. If it was White Oak that made the bite lethal then Freya wouldn’t have been able to create a cure because you can’t dispel the white oak, Kol explained that in season 2, so there’s no way anyone can cure someone with the white oak in their system without forcibly removing it from their body. The cure was also just the blood of members of the 7 original clans merged into 1, which evidently points to the fact that the bite is lethal because it’s the purest werewolf venom you can possibly create and its lethal to any vampire

Also the white oak kills originals in less than a minute the venom takes hours and the way they die look completely different also it’s sort of confirmed by Michael Narducci (who wrote the episode Alaric became an Original and was the showrunner of The Originals) that it’s lethal to even Alaric

@@Faceless1andonly Lucien's werewolf venom only showed the ability to kill regular vampires tho, the first time it was shown to kill an original level vampire was after he became a beast, which involved the white oak also being thrown into the mix. yes the white oak is what gives the original level immortality but it can also take it away

@ because he never used it on an original, he can’t test it on them. He has to capture them first somehow, Lucien wanted to create a supervenom that even bypasses every possible cure, so it bypasses even originals, not to mention we actually know it has nothing to do with the white oak stake because Kol knows how to briefly dispel it and Freya would’ve said it’s white oak and white oak is incurable and kills in less than a minute not hours like the supervenom

Lucien even states to elijah that they are not immune to death at the time we found out he had a cure for werewolf venom also lucien tried to completely eliminate the malrow wolf blood line to ensure his venom can't be cured,lucien only had two reasons why he did not use the venom on the originals first he can't use it on klaus coz he'll also die and if he were to succeed and use it on elijah or rebekah then klaus would just kill him,he wanted to better and stronger than klaus and when he found the prophesy it confirmed his plan was gonna work,the thing about whiteoak is that it is necessarily for the original spell.as stated by lucien "under the shade of the infamous whiteoak tree where esther mikaelson turned each of her children,i want to replicate that spell". Each time an original,enhanced og or upgrade is to be turned the spell is performed at this location.

@@audrajurgela2985 Yh hence why I tend to refer to the villains in The Originals as “Ozai-type villains”

@@JayR-lu1gp Yh

@@GenesisRoquez Lizzie is a heretic but when I grouped them as the heretics, I was more so referring to the coven “The Heretics” in season 7, Kai would also be a heretic

@@shariyahdiamondofficial97 Which version of Limbo, there’s only one Limbo

@Faceless1andonly just like they said it was only one prison world then Bonnie made a new one for Kai and then in legacies lizziie Joe made one for him and then hope for they friend the wolf

@@shariyahdiamondofficial97 Limbo and the prison worlds are different dimensions, prison worlds are created by the Gemini coven and a Bennett witch, Limbo had always existed and look very different

@@shariyahdiamondofficial97 He was in the Salvatore compound as Caroline stated Stefan owned the mill, there’s no way Stefan never digged it for maintenance stuff or any Salvatore for that matter digged there for maintenance issues in over 100 years, also he should be dead due to the mystic falls purification spell, even if he’s underground as we saw Stefan and Elena begin dying even when they were in the tunnels

@@PlutoxClipz True but I do think Marcel’s storyline in season 3 was one of the best in the show

I mean to be fair The Originals were the top dogs for over 1000 years no one could touch them so The Originals finally having people that can challenge them actually make things interesting and actually scary because sometimes now we don't know if The Originals can get out of a situation alive because now that there are vampires/ hybrids that are just as powerful or more powerful than them and now they have to actually try to stay alive

@@roderick8167nah that’s facts I think it just was the fact that they gave that super venom concept and that it could take them out at any moment it was crazy to me and to see marcel bullying elijah was crazy lol

@@Faceless1andonlyI could agree

@@oxanatarashchuk4598 Exactly

In TVD Bonnie basically made Klaus killable, even a stake to the heart will be enough to kill him at that, Elijah told her to bring him as close to death as possible, I was just going off of Rebekah telling Elijah if he ever wanted to rip out Klaus’ heart and see how long it grows back

@@millasboo Actually Ken outright said he can’t hence why he went to Jen, also in the simulation they just say “you’ll lose” or “he defeats you” they never say he can kill her, just beat her

@@Faceless1andonlyTo be honest they were saying in the simulation that her life force was depleting, going down to percentages. It was just assumed that Ken could eventually kill her given he was a God and the most powerful of the bunch, but Hope is just so durable and powerful that literally nothing besides red oak can kill her.

@ Yh Hope can be taken off the board as the power can still affect her, it just can’t kill her outright, I think Hope said that after she went to Limbo when Ken beat her into a coma. She doesn’t die but enough power can drastically weaken her to the point that she becomes a non-factor and can’t fight, which is likely what the percentage is referring to. Both Ken and Hope said that they can’t kill her without the red oak

@@millasboo The thorns is only lethal because of the supervenom and it can’t be used on Marcel, it’s specifically stated to only kill the originals, Marcel’s venom can’t work on himself seeing as it’s embedded in his dna, if the Hollow wanted Marcel dead she will just steal the dagger

@@millasboo Yh I said they were superior

@tahaboom4518 I’ll have to think about how I can extend that into an extended video

@@LadiesWhoFight2.0 Thank you so much, really appreciate it

Same. Hope is my favorite character

@@everettparker1313 Indeed and thanks

@@roderick8167 At one point Damon was the most terrifying being but that drastically changed 😂😂

@Faceless1andonly I know right 😅😂 and of course Alaric became a enhanced Original and that was just in Season 3 of TVD so Klaus was already getting mauled by somebody else and he was still a relatively new character 😂😂

@ 😂😂😂

And then Mikael showed up 😂😂😂

@oxanatarashchuk4598 oh yeah forgot about Mikael 😂😂, yeah Mikael might be slightly more powerful than Klaus because there's a reason Klaus never dared to fight him for 1000 years and some will argue yeah but that's before Klaus activated his werewolf side and became a hybrid which yeah true but I think if Klaus, Elijah and Rebekah had teamed up on Mikael they probably could have taken him but nope they always ran lol

@estek5720 100%

Actually you are supposed to like both like with The Originals

@ as I said, that was mostly joking. I actually agree with that, in any story both are important

@@kingkashi5151 Pretty much spot on 🎯

I agree

@@talon532 dessicate and outright kill are drastically different, Dahlia would’ve outright kill Mikael if she could as a deterrent

It had a lot of great episodes, so it wasn’t trash

@@stephaniepage4334 I’m not sure tbh but it’s unlikely

The CW has been closed and basically bankrupt so I doubt it’ll happen. Unless Julie sells the show to another company.

Thank you!!! 👏🏾 I've been saying this for years, with TVD Universe we established Witch, Werewolves, Vampire, Hybrids, and Ghost to an extent with witches ghost and the other side, then Legacies went an fucked it up with stuff Like Genies, Phoenix, Dragons, zombies, Demented Angel's that eat people, etc. Sprinkle in that teen drama, add a supernatural school and here you go bs. I loved Tvd Bonnie is my all time fave and the originals I loved Elijah, Klaus, Marcel and Aya. And I was like what the hell, I already detest Julie Plec but I was like did she just give up on this?! Did she think she could make a Joss Whedon Verse.Like Hope, Girl you are NOT Buffy, none of yall are Spike, Angel, Willow, Xander or Cordy

Not just that but they tried to be like Hercules as well adding Greek gods and shit lmao 🤣😭