Neil DeGrasse Tyson Podcast Turns Into HEATED Debate
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- Destiny reacts to Neil DeGrasse Tyson's debate on the PBD Podcast
Date: 10 Jan, 2022
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You should watch the episode with Kyle Kulinski on PBD
@@soapchin px c
Destiny as a Veteran that left the army because of the Vac I'll tell you the vaccines we recieve at basic training were tested for MORE than 9 months I'm not willingly to take a vaccine that's forced on us with lest than a year of testing. That's how me and MANY of my brothers that departed felt about it.
debate Marcus Aurelius
I hate that the vaccine became a political debate.
a hurricane became political during that time too. SMH it the weather and disease, forces of nature.
but you know mother nature is clearly a lib
Kind of what happens when you make it mandatory for a lot of the country. Should've just let the facts of the vaccine prove itself.
It didn't though... It was the political reaction to the pandemic that became a political debate, not the vaccine. Cranks who don't want to be vaccinated have always existed, what is new now however is trying to close down the entire world economy and getting people fired for disagreeing.
Anything science related for the foreseeable future. If 90% of scientists agreed on anything, skeptics won’t go for it
Keep your mind open but don’t let your brain fall out. Someone apparently never told the anti-vaxxers the second part.
No random streamer drama? Not redpill drama? A rarity that is deeply welcomed back
dont jinx it
True
I mean, Steven talking about drama and predicting everything correctly.
Here it's regurgitating the same topic that was settled 2 years ago!
Oh yeah this is high quality react-andy content we know Destiny is capable of
@@Vulpes_Shinbi god I wish it was settled
Leave it to PBD to say he's a stats guy only to follow up with anecdotes lmao
LOL
I like PBD sometimes but damn he’s been very anecdotal lately look at andrew tate arrest reaction
PBD is the ideologue here, arguing from a libertarian framework.
The dude runs a Pyramid Scheme idk how he has such a big following LOL
@@luck9837 Still nothing beats social security as the biggest pyramid scheme ever made
I always love the people that say “I’m a stats guy, I watch baseball” it will never not make me laugh
We should drag these people to observe the trials and see what they say. I bet they would still be in denial. "If I cant see it then I dont believe it."🙈🙈🙈🙈 They do something like this even if the evidence is being produced right in front of their eyes multiple times.
Neil is clearly a man’s name. Respect.
But Destiny is a woman's name.
Mr Pickles... checks out also. Carry on.
miss pickles
BAAAAEEEETA! 😂
Tyson is clearly a chicken’s name. Delicious
"I am a stats guy. I like baseball. So my question is why did AOC come to Florida on vacation?" This sentence is a pretty good TLDR of the disconnect between these two speakers.
i love baseball im a stats guy. why did the NBA have their finals in Florida?
That actual rat brained mfer is proof you don't have to be smart to be rich. Meritocracy is a myth
This is a good example of how a conservative thinkers' brain functions. Specifically that it does not function.
Because they want to impose their draconian policies on the ppl they control but they still want to go on vacation in paradise…
@@__-bz7wh I like the part where you didn't claim to be qualified enough to debate the guy you don't agree with. Maybe you should become the person you expect him to debate.
bro wouldn’t know what an NFT is if it slapped him in his command line
Salama lil buddy. Miss him so much 🤣
Love it. Keep the memes flowing.
TECHNOLOGIST
i still have sinner's trip to africa bbc video on my playlist to pump iron to.
That's the first Destiny vid I watched and hahahahahaha
One thing I find irritating about PBD is that he'll make these blanket assertions as if they're throwaway comments then quickly try to move on with a "but...". It was nice to see Neil Degrasse Tyson's penchant of constant interrupting actually being used for the powers of good for once.
Gotta be infinitely skeptical to spite the libs
Those type of people are frustrating as hell to talk to.
all research no thinking
Every time liberals are forced to admit they don't believe in their own stated principles, the world becomes a better place.
@@Hooga89 Very nondescript and meaningless comment. Thank you
No its questioning the institutions who have lied to its citizens for half a century. Majority of Americans have blind trust both on L and R. If this was 2003 under Bush, the left would have been anti vaccine. NDT is full of shit and is nothing but a persona.
"I'm a statistic guy." 10 seconds later: "look at where NBA hosts their game. That's a statistic". AMAZING
The politicization over the last 2 years followed previously by AOC 😭😭😭😭😭 god it's like they just straight up lie.
The pandemic has made it very clear that most people don't understand how they reach a conclusion. The amount of people who don't realize they're engaging in motivated or emotional reasoning is mind boggling.
Guy only mention NBA and blm to race charge the debate
@@Loengrinn pandemic? We have been lamenting these propped since at least 2016….
“Trump is a Russian agent!”
“Black Lives Matter!”
It’s just the latest idiocy…..
Actions speak louder than words, bucko!
PBD: I’m a stats guy.
**gives nothing but anecdotes**
😂😂😂😂😂
@@Xoustus NGT "im a scientist"
*gives nothing but strawmen*
@@radfield6089 this ain’t it, chief
@@MrProofMan it is what it is, chief
@@radfield6089 what strawman?
absolute nightmare blunt rotation
Hahaha, V good comment
His chat is unironically "I'm not smart enough to know this so you must be wrong".
Too be fair, listening to destiny's description of mRNA vaccines he might as well be as dumb as his chat.
It really is fucked, we all have an enormous wealth of information through the internet at our fingertips. But it seems there will always be large amounts of people who systematically arrive at the opposite conclusions, it’s really depressing.
@@sumbigdumkunt they purposely don't look. A lot of people prefer remaining wilfully and blissfully ignorant of how they can do better, because that might mean doing something about it.
@@bibsp3556 shit ik im clapping myself with my dumbass anime pfp, but u saying that with a joker pic gives off sOcIeTy vibes lmao. I agree with u, just made me smile a bit
i think 80% of it is just his community trying to piss him off imo
Destiny is absolutely right about the military vaccines, honestly I have no idea what vaccines they gave me besides flu, anthrax and polio. God knows what else I have.
The difference is the military vaccines have been established for years,compared to a vaccine that was created in a couple of months..And the only reason these vaccine pushers are so debatable such as ""Destiny'" as millions of others was fear based in the moment=I took mines so you take yours and join me in this experiment.
Aids
@@tcritt who knows man 🤷♂️😂
Autism :')
@@astrodude9146 omfg i laughed at this shit. Bruh you probably good, isn't the reason why they give military every vaccine is incase they get shipped to fucking Africa where every disease known or not known to man can still be found to this day?
The crazy thing is that he wasn't strictly defending the vaccine, he was defending the scientific process as he always does.
That process blatantly failed because people, officials and other scientists are dummies and both don't understand science or risk.
What part of the scientific process includes the social contract?
@@douglasede9300 the desicion making process
... which was thrown overboard in it's entirety when it came to the development of and messaging around the vaccines. If you think any part of that was up to the usual intellectual and ethical standards of science, you're a fool.
@The Freemason Gamer lmao 😂 fuck every scientific discovery it’s all propaganda there’s just no possible way to prove it yourself. Congrats bro big brain shit
6:36 The "DOOD!" got me lol. I've never seen NDT like this xD
He’s a hack
@@Adam444Tv Get outta town
@Taotl NDT? I have no opinion on him. I haven't seen enough of his content.
His podcast Startalk is pretty comfy
@@aliothspectranet5678 Thx for the intel; I'll check it out.
I have a PhD in evolutionary genetics and in the middle of my second year as a professor at an R1. As a result, past two years have been filled with family, friends, and random people who know what I do asking me about these issues....it's just not worth it to keep engaging with the hardcore skeptics where we are now. Most are just looking to get a rise out of you.
I have my issues with how the science communication was handled during the pandemic, but ultimately a drop in the ocean looking at the situation as a whole. The whole thing was fucked the moment political leaders decided to make managing transmission and vaccination wedge issues.
explain how a vaccinated person can get infected if they're already vaccinated?
Tell me mr. PHD man.... is it safe to take poorly tested drugs like this vaccine was at the time?
@@ronswanson1410 Exactly the feeling.
Covid Vaccines became a political issue exactly because of the scientific communication. The politicians simply capitalized on preexisting resentment. This entire mess could have been avoided by less arrogant, more honest science communication
@@theurbanegentleman4550 I disagree. Almost from day 1, partisan tv networks were against lockdowns, wearing masks and eventually devolved into "fire Fauci"
How do people consider that dumpster fire a documentary?? And is it true that the creator of that “documentary” is selling protein blocking necklaces?
Could be good for people that like to eat a lot of pre workout
@@dddaaa6965 i like drinking it, does it still apply? (genuinley curious)
@@mercurial1025 dunoo (not a scientist)
@Taotl it’s about money & political pressure (on both the left AND the right) it’s not that complicated. That doesn’t mean the government is conspiring against the country to kill them with sketchy vaccines, turn them gay and trap them inside forever😂 all politicians and government officials are greedy money hungry slobs, they’re not interested in killing off their customers (tax $)
Stupiders??
this goes back to what neil first said , the person who wins the debate is the one who's more charismatic and connects with the audience better not necessarily the one with the facts
It's like if a software developer put together a large-scale application very quickly. They would say that it's tested and be certain there are no bugs (side effects). But any experienced engineer knows that things put together so quickly will not stand the test of time, meaning the vaccine looks very sus from an engineering perspective. Neil should understand that we should be skeptical of things built so quickly, people say "it works fine" all the time everywhere. He sounds like a speaker for a Dictator, he needs to tell the truth and say "The vaccine is the best solution we have. Based on the science we understand it should work fine, take it at your own risk".
That’s who wins the debate, according to the dummies. A reasonable person will see through that.
And here I thought winning a debate meant someone had the the more logically consistent arguments, huh. Guess it's about "facts" now.
Thinking a out wining or losing betads is low iq debates are for an exchange of ideas
@@robchrisaustinsteve the majority of people arent reasonable.
It took me into my 30s to realize I cant just say things bluntly because Im factually correct. People unfortunately dont work like that.
Being blunt aka being an asshole.
Same here. Even doing tons of internet research won't get you to a 100% conclusion. It's why we have experts who study one specific thing their entire lives, to hopefully make society function better
@@Silverwidows Hate to burst your romantic bubble but most of the people who study one specific thing their entire lives at an academic level don't do it to make society function better they do it to have a job that pays better and has more status and privilege than working at Walmart full-time.
@@Hooga89 which is fine
@@Hooga89 the original comment was talking about why society has experts, not about the specific personal motivation for becoming an expert
A video not about redpill? Is this real life?
No.
I like how PDB let Kyle, Destiny and NDT dunk on them for 3 weeks straight. God speed.
Might as well invite all three of them onto the podcast all at once just to put the final nail in the coffin.
What is pdb
@@micahchildress554 Patrick Bet-David. The dude talking in the podcast
@@micahchildress554 a grifter from Iran
@@mrtambourineman6107 He's a hundred millionaire... What's the "grift"?
Destiny looks vaxxed as FUCK
Using the NBA as an example of where it's safest.... This must be the guy who needs Ja Rule in a crisis
It’s simple - Orlando is second only to Las Vegas as a convention destination. Orlando had the infrastructure to meet the demands of the NBA bubble - lodging for players and personnel, places to practice and hold team meetings, existing space to hold games, etc. That’s why the NBA bubble was in Florida. Not because of Desantis or his handling of Covid. All of those spaces were unused during Covid, and were available for the Bubble.
Neil The Grass Titan is a strange man
Dwayne the rock Johnson vs Neil the grass titan
Vs Mike "the iron" tyson
@@Zgembo121 a silly little guy, if you will
@@theoldhermit2601 silly little guy, insanely smart and definitely has a mans name.
@@theoldhermit2601 just a wacky little jester
I thought I came up with that phrase. I guess multiple discovery is a thing.
Get Neil on the stream Destiny.
I don’t listen to Destiny because he’s the smartest man in the room. I listen to Destiny because he thinks he’s the smartest person in the room.
based
I have to admit, I thought this was a "is a girl's name" setup. 😄
Hahahaha me too
He is the smartest man in the room. Here he's the only man in the room.
Honestly considering how much smarter destiny usually is than everyone else in the room I feel pretty confident in saying that he almost never flexes on people and peacocks his intelligence.
After months of Factorio gameplay. The only thing I understand is conveyer belts.
Same. My brain has only ever decided to internalize him laying down conveyer belts. And him flying around the map.
Some specific techniques scientists use to work with mRNA include:
Polyadenylation: This is the process of adding a string of adenine nucleotides (poly(A)) to the 3' end of the mRNA. This helps protect the mRNA from degradation by exonucleases.
Cap addition: This is the process of adding a modified guanine nucleotide, called a 7-methylguanosine cap, to the 5' end of the mRNA. This protects the mRNA from degradation by endonucleases and also helps with translation by recruiting ribosomes to the mRNA.
RNA stabilization reagents: Scientists can also use reagents that protect the mRNA from degradation by binding to it and protecting it from nucleases. These include ethanol, ethanolamine, and guanidine thiocyanate.
Cold storage: mRNA can be stored at low temperatures, such as -80°C, to slow down the activity of nucleases and prolong the stability of the mRNA.
Reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR): This is a technique that allows scientists to make multiple copies of a specific segment of RNA by converting it to cDNA, which is then amplified using PCR.
In vitro transcription: This is a technique that allows scientists to make large amounts of specific mRNA by using a DNA template and an RNA polymerase enzyme.
ok
Aint nobody reading that lil bro , do something productive with your life
@@Siikayy Just means you weren't the target audience, lil bro.
I’m guessing that they combine these techniques in some fashion to ‘harden’ the RNA right?
You forgot greed, profits, lies, delusion, group think, fear. People do not change their minds on this issue. It doesn't matter how many young people are mysteriously dropping dead or experiencing heart problems. Yeah I'm a tin foil hat 🤠
The segment/ tangent about understanding and using the English language, was spot on and appreciated.
Facts: never before seen method of vaccination, approved by the fda for general public MANDATE after a mere fraction of the level of scrutiny applied to any other drug, mind you that level of scrutiny as already critized for being too little. The amount of trials required to become accessible to the general public has been cut in the last few decades resulting in something like 60% of all drugs in America either being pulled from the market or having a black label warning ( like may cause cancer or fucking kidney failure etc ) within 10 years of being approved by the fda.
Ps the fda altered the way its funded around 10 yrs ago from being 100% publicly funded to getting the majority of its funding though an application fee paid by the pharmaceutical companies who develop the drugs. To top it all off its to be expected that virtually all of the fda board members and employees to have worked, or go on to work in the private sector, so in other words the companies that make the drugs that they are there to scrutinize.
We have words specifically to describe reduced risk, a number of words in fact.
When we explicitly do not use those, we are intentionally trying to send a different message than what we mean.
"This STOPS that, means that "this," prevents "that," from happening.
If "this," only lessens the chance, and you don't want to specifically say "lessen the likelihood," you can say mitigate, reduce, limit, etc etc. Saying "stops," is intentionally not saying what it actually does because it's more convincing.
Seatbelts don't stop death in car accidents, it reduces the risk of death, I have literally never seen or heard anyone in my life say seatbelts STOP death or injury in a car accident, they have always said it reduces the risk of fatal injury and then go on to explain exactly what a seatbelt does and what it would prevent, and even go on to explain what harm a seatbelt could cause too and how to avoid that harm.
Similarly, the vaccine doesn't STOP the spread, it mitigates it, sayin "STOP," is being intentionally manipulative and then using this argument Destiny keeps using is essentially the social gaslighting of being like "well obviously what we said isn't what we meant, you should have known when we say something we don't mean that and it obviously means something else that we just intentionally chose not to say, and all the people saying the same intentionally misleading thing all had the same idea of not meaning exactly what was said, you're just crazy or stupid to think people mean what they say when they speak words in the English language."
No it doesn't mitigate the spread either it doesn't do anything at all for the spread it was never even tested for transmission it doesn't work that way the CEO of Pfizer before he stepped down just admitted this recently on video it's not that hard to find
@@Dino2GunZ whether it does or doesn't wasn't the point.
Destiny and others are arguing under the pretense it does mitigate the spread, and are arguing that saying stops is the same thing, that is the behaviour I'm talking about.
These silly word games don't matter and you are misusing the terms despite trying to be so pedantic.
@@usucdik I'm not using word games, that's kind of the point, people are trying to be intentionally indirect in what they mean so that it hold more weight, that is a mind game. To point out the gaslighting being done of saying using intentional words to hold more weight and then saying that's not what is happening and the words being used do mean the thing they explicitly do not mean, is not being pedantic, it's recognizing manipulative behaviour, obviously people trying to be manipulative are going to be angry and attempt to be further manipulative once they are called out as you are doing, it just makes it all the more clear of the intention behind the actions being malice rather than stupidity.
THIS absolutely. They are gaslighting hard. I completely disagree with Destiny on this (and I enjoy his content). People have been so gaslit that they are forgetting the narrative at the beginning. People absolutely believed they couldn’t/wouldn’t get it if they got the shmot. Media, leaders, experts, doctors, they were all telling people that it stopped it. Everyone around me at the time believed that. Saying, “everyone knows that they really meant...” now, doesn’t cut it for me. People were hysterical and when that shmot came out they held onto that like it was Jesus Christ himself saving they ass.
Common sense told me and should have told others that there’s NO way they could make that claim honestly. If they meant something else they should have been aware of the people taking them at their word and clarified, cause people WERE believing that. That even further caused my skepticism.
Free food if you take it-red flag
Chance to win a million bucks if you take it-red flag
Commercials nonstop on tv, especially targeting the black community -red flag
Might as well been a dude in a van with no windows offerin candy to kids at the schoolyard.
Did I take a chance on trusting my intuition, yes, am I mad about it, nope.
Destiny is correct, it did reduce transmission...by 1ish% according to ARR...
and the proof is there, everyone kept getting it and spreading it even after 2,3,4 shmots.
If you’re a male under 40y/o you have a higher risk of heart probs from the thing, and there’s a lot of excess deaths due to “unknown causes” lately, just sayin.
Does neill not know that the emergency use testing protocol isn't as stringent as standard FDA study protocol?
At the time of administering vaccines and placing restrictions around vaccine status there was NO solid data that any of the available vaccines reduced the spread of Covid in any meaningful manner and in fact today we now know, as Pfizer and government have finally admitted, that the vaccine is not great at reducing the spread of Covid at all.
That's the entire crux of the argument: if me getting the vaccine is only for my benefit - because it significantly reduces the chance that I'll die or be injured due to covid - why would we make that mandatory in public spaces? A person who is vaccinated should not be concerned about the vaccine status of someone else.
He clearly does and that was his entire point about thousands versus millions and public health initiative
We haven't been under emergency status for a whole year now and guess what, vaccines are still perfectly viable
Why was Destiny taking Schizo call-ins during this video??
watch it
Lmao you ain’t even seen it
I watched it live, it was driving me crazy!
@@darkfeign I believe the in Fandom name is shizuary
Cause it’s content
Like to point out that the mRNA isn’t the issue or what’s causing issues it’s the spike proteins. It’s been suggested in studies that the spike proteins are attaching to specific tissues (pericytes) found in the heart and other parts of the body. The spike proteins then can release chemicals that causing Inflammation after attaching to this tissue . It’s also suggested that they can also stay in the bloodstream after it detached from the mRNA. Other claims that the spike proteins are “pooling” in other areas of the body as well causing issues as well.
you get a whole hell of a lot more spike proteins in your body with the "natural immunity" route.
@@lucasorion the myocarditis and heart inflammation in healthy people is only happening as a result of vaccination, NOT covid infection. Additionally, antibody dependent enhancement has been shown to worsen the body's covid immune response effecitveness with each additional dose/boosters. For anybody who isn't old or highly at risk it doesn't make sense to get the vaccine, especially multiple times per year
I don’t think that’s true, why is their more? The issue isn’t how much their is it’s how your body deals with it, and how they interact with the body. The spike proteins you would get from just contracting Covid is different than the spike proteins we have in the vaccines, they are synthetic. Studies are showing that the lymphatic system isn’t removing these synthetic spike proteins as if it would with naturally accruing spike proteins. When we create these spike proteins we are kinda guessing as to their structure, we don’t know how they should be folded or if we even have them folded correctly. We simply understand a basic idea of structure and interaction between the spike proteins and cells. This is probably why the lymphatic system is having issues cleaning them up. The body has evolved millions of years with these viruses and their protein structors. we introduce something new to the body that has not naturally occurred before and we are seeing issues. What’s most interesting though is why is it only some people and not all having adverse reactions. Why are some minor and others major. Why are some not all all from what it seems. Could it be that some of these people already had clots and the inflammation from pooling is causing the small clots to become issue? Is the vaccine creating the clots and inflammation? This we don’t know.
@@ProFrybagmRNA vaccines produce spike proteins identical to the other ones because they literally use the same mechanism as COVID itself. Synthethic spike proteins are a thing, mRNA is another thing.
AntiVax Chatter: "I believe at face value random pseudoscience conspiracy theories that scare me"
Destiny: "This is how mRNA vaccines generally work"
AntiVax Chattery: "You're not a leading authority on the subject with a deep complicated understanding so you can't have an opinion, especially one that counters my own opinion that I just made up!"
AntiVax Chatter: “Fauci and the government claimed that the vaccine would prevent the spread. They now claim that they never said that, and that everyone was going to get the virus. Mandating the Vaccine should be my body, my choice.”
NDT: “Nuh-Uh”
@Taotl It's difficult to make an easily defeatable strawman about any of that though.
Vaxxers as of late: No one ever said that vaccine stopped spread of Covid.
All of these comments just show me you guys have no idea what normal everyday conservatives think. Step outside of the discord for a bit. You're doing the thing. Just label them "antivax" and ignore em' they're stupid. Alright cool, keep doing it i guess, but it's probably the reason they still hold onto some semblance of political power every other cycle.
@Taotl I actually think the problem stems from most skeptics really not being skeptic so much as knee jerk reactionaries, who would will just purposely go against the grain on any major initiative that the scientific community or mainstream media or academia throws their support behind
I love all the people that say "you're wrong or missing so much" but they can't say what that is.
Republicans are the type to trust the 1 in 10 dentist that recommend toothpaste instead of the other 9.
yep thats why the rich celebrities here in california have their own grocery stores that sell those 1 in 10 toothpastes while the rest of the masses have their toxic 9 out of 10 toothpastes?
@COCK no one ever said rich people were inherently smarter
@@greenboarder89 more like rich people are willing to spend money on dumb shit. Like 500 dollar orange juice.
And democrats are totally fine with taking away constitutional rights, what's your point?
Well, I'd like to hear why that 1 dentist doesn't recommend it.
I feel Destiny's frustration. I can hardly stand to listen to this. These dodos only cling to this debate still to have a gotcha moment with some "lib".
This manlet is so cringe
Dude walked right into the smoking analogy with smoking free zones
It would be a good analogy. If the jab noticeably helped in reducing transmission
@@AnonymousFO sorry you didn’t notice. There’s some studies you can find showing the reducing of spread. Anyway regardless of that, I’m glad the Hospital workers in my family are at lower risk than they were before the vaccine slowed the insane rate of people coming into the hospital to spread it to them and everyone else.
@@AnonymousFO it does, and you should research it
@@theblackdeath10 show me your research…I’m curious. I’ve seen when spread was highest most Americans had already been vaccinated which would put what you claim into doubt
@@lancethompson5403 That's because the vaccine was being distributed amidst a global pandemic. It's not a binary... The vaccine isn't 100% foolproof protection against transmission. The vaccine mitigates the risk of transmission by allowing your body to fight off the virus faster, meaning less symptoms and less overall time spent infected.
But hasn't the vaccine efficacy been significantly lowered since the initial studies?
That's the nature of any vaccine for a virus with strong transmission capabilities. The more hosts it has the more chances to multiply and mutate. The nature of the virus dictates the long term efficacy of a vaccine, not the vaccine itself.
Maybe because
a) the virus becomes more adapted to the human body and therefore less and less dangerous
b) the virus changes more and more from the version the vaccines are designed to fight
yes, and anyone who’s surprised would also be shocked to find a wanted poster of someone only describing their outfit likely means the wanted person is going to change their outfit very easily when you could’ve included their face in the poster to require the wanted person get a face change.
Probably because it ran rampant.. there is what 15 different versions in China alone?
@@myronwilliams3340 are you implying China wasn’t forceful enough against Covid?
14:00 straight up nailing it. Having done work on RNA the mere fact they managed to get mRNA into a lipid nanoparticule without any contamination or significant degradation is a technological marvel
Are you one of the Kraut and tea scientist.. Everything's so simple until it's not. Lab assistants are scientists, until they are not.
@@SlyNine PhD researcher in microbiology immunology and molecular biology so I’d say I classify as a scientist
@@camelloy Describe to us what you did during the PhD
Totally
Jesus…exactly the retard bad faith comments destiny was referring to showing up in the responses to you 🙄
Doctor pbd says they didn't test enough....Based on ????????????
Still waiting...
It's sad that this discussion is a thing when it's just going through the same tired talking points we went through over year ago. The comment section for the original video is just pathetic.
been a lot of information that came out recently that wasn't available a year ago that even Neil was afraid to talk about you should probably look into it
@@Dino2GunZ Heard nothing new in this video. Direct me to specifics.
Being vaccinated ensured that you have a lower viral load in the event that you do catch and transmit covid to someone else. What this means is that, statistically speaking, vaccinated people got less sick and passed on a lower viral load to other people, who in turn became less sick.
Also Destiny you can’t say in 1 breath that vaccine stop transmission and next breath say not 100% thats what we call in the English language a contradiction lol smh Destiny if your gonna speak on language then at least use the right words smh
I'm here to get out of my ecco chamber.
This one however seem to be more dangerous and dogmatic.
PBD is only competent when it comes to running mlm schemes these discussions are above his weight class to be honest!
I wish more people saw this. People see a rich man and thinks that he must be smart in all aspects of life
can you buy me some lego
Degrassi Neal Tyson
Brother of Fidel Mike Tyson
cali and new york lied about their numbers
Is COVID more dangerous than the vaccine for my 10 yr old? My healthy 10 yr old
mrna vaccines do not stop transmission.
Yes, let's all take medical advice from the blue-haired guy that flunked out of college.
He acts so confused about the mechanism of blood clots post-vax when there are several studies demonstrating marked increases of endothelial inflammatory markers immediately following mRNA vaccination. Destiny should really stick to debating politics while cracked out on Adderall.
COVID wrecking people's cardiovascular systems is why they "died suddenly".
I think you make a lot of poor arguments here
Most of these cell processes are covered in your highschool bio course... I don't understand why people act like DNA and mRNA are some kind of sci-fi magic
Because they failed to retain any of the knowledge they received. They learned the facts through write memorization that would be on the test, from the study guide. The school system prioritizing standardized testing in pursuit of funds does a major disservice to the youth and future of this country.
and being fired for not taking a vaccine was aslo discuss in highschool ,right?
The dunning-kruger effect is knocking. You don't even know what you don't know. It's a common practice to bend the truth just so students can comprehend a concept. Don't go thinking your high school education gives you the slightest clue about this.
Just so we're clear. I'm not making an argument about who's right. But reading through this crap it's clear you guys can't seem to grasp the concept of logic. Yet you're talking down to people.
@@SlyNine Delusional.
this fanbase and destiny r so botted its unbelievable, no critical thinking just holding a shield in front of a broken kingdom, wake tf up
Come on, bro, you can't do pure irony like this. It's just not fair.
Listen, can you offer a more useful criticism? Why is it so hard to include what Destiny is wrong about along with your insult?
Just take a moment and say, "Destiny is wrong about X. He's got no critical thinking." Otherwise, how is anyone supposed to think critically about anything you're saying?
@@jenispizz2556i think he's being sarcastic. And if not, god help him
You take one person with a right-wing - OAN, Fox News mentality and debate an American astrophysicist, author, and science communicator who studied at Harvard University, the University of Texas at Austin, and Columbia University. From 1991 to 1994, he was a postdoctoral research associate at Princeton University. It's Albert Einstein vs. Donald Trump. It's 'Tickle Me Elmo' vs. Isaac Asimov.
This sounds like SNEAKO and Destiny debating in 30 years
its a good time to be an anti-vaxxer
8:40 is where destiny loses me every time this topic comes up. That is literally exactly what was said, by almost every public health official in the country at the same time. He needs to stop playing word games.
All I can do is promise you that no one understood that like that. There WAS reason to think the vaccine would reduce the spread and there's even more reason to believe that's the case now. When people called to STOP the spread, I promise you NO ONE believed they were literally talking about completely halting the spread of the virus.
If a politician is talking about stopping crime or something, NO ONE thinks they mean there will be zero crime for example. Sincerely.
He acted like it was just another one of a Biden’s gaffes, when it was literally stated by his press secretary, Fauci and every talking head on CNN and msnbc e.g. Rachael Maddow and the Cuomo brothers
Yeah he's smoking crack there.
It is funny destiny a dropout with no education saying Robert Wallace Malone American physician Education
University of California, Davis (BS)
University of California, San Diego (MS)
Northwestern University (MD) is stupid and he knows more is comedy gold.
Poor Neil. The man is an astrophysicist, but not at all a debate lord. Ugh
Still did a thousand times better than this host
How much has Destiny looked into the effects of spike proteins on the body? Found months after vaccine.
Sounds fake. Which sources push this?
I have given thousands of vaccines of literally every type.... I've had to put in more data for vaers for these vaccines than for anything else in the last 15 years combined. Anecdotal for sure but definitely odd and I know we pulled a few flu vaccines for less. Also time is extremely important for these studies which weren't properly done no matter what anyone tells you. At minimum it would have taken 2-3 years to do it properly with all hands on deck.
Yeah right, you just want to kill my grandma
@@cole9731 I think you've confused me with Cuomo 😂
Yet they all got FDA approved like any other vaccines. Doesn't matter if you disagree or always think "well... it should have been longer!" The testing was done, and the really funny part is it did take a couple years, which is why the government explicitly allowed emergency use of the vaccine since early trials seemed totally fine.
@@usucdik you trust the FDA? 😂 FDA-approval does not guarantee safety. Big Pharma funds FDA reviews of new drugs, creating a conflict of interest. The agency is too focused on approving drugs to appease Big Pharma and it lacks the proper authority and funding to protect the public. In fact, the FDA has made some pretty huge blunders that have ended in irreparable damage and even death. In reality FDA CDER does not test drugs, although the Center's Office of Testing and Research does conduct limited research in the areas of drug quality, safety, and effectiveness. It's fairly clear you didn't know any of this though and the fact the company isn't liable for damages is a new phenomenon so you have to ask yourself. Why would they do that? Adequate testing most likely wasn't done opening them up to liability creating a need for this strange deal. You also probably weren't aware typically a new vaccine takes 5-10 years to develop and test appropriately.
@@tiraud105 YOU claimed they had to put in the time. So uh... good job pretending like the FDA approval doesn't mean this. Always another excuse with you guys.
"It's fairly clear you didn't know any of this though" - yet you said nothing that refuted or even contradicted anything I said, except maybe some conspiracy theory nonsense where you pretend you can simply disregard anything you want because money exists.
But yeah, as I said, always an excuse. And a shifting goalpost! So no more 2-3 years? Oh, right, that actually happened, so now you gotta say 5-10. Then when that rolls around you'll say it was fake somehow or actually needs 15 years of vetting.
I used to like Patrick, and now I have unfollowed his channel. I don’t know how got in bed with conspiracy theorists and all the nonsense stuff.
I would pay money for a Tyson vs Candace Owens debate 😂
That's like putting a super computer up against a potato.
@Brødan Fr I like potatoes too
@@hassansyed5036 Neil is not a potato! Stop it!
Mike would destroy her head
Me too, she would destroy him.
Ladies and gentlemen: 40:25 is the first time the viewer realizes that Adam from Valuetainment is actually in the studio 😂
Calling Patrick Bet David bad faith is ridiculous. I agree with your over all point but that and this "Trump whataboutism" when I guarantee you have no clue about his opinions on Trump are what's truly bad faith.
I love how PBD is trying to tell Neil degrass Tyson how testing works
Hang on, at 37:42 the claim is that 29 ATHELETES suddenly had heart failure pre COVID, and then as a condemnation he claims that post COVID 1500 people had sudden heart failure , but is it me or do those represent vastly different groups?
So this is either an example of misspeaking or gross misrepresentation.
Patrick Bet David is actively running a MLM scam fyi. And yes I know MLMs aren't inherently a scam but, he's lying to people telling them they're gonna make bank and they end up making less than McDonald's worker's...
MLM's are inherently scams, fight me.
What's the scam?
@@dangerfar his MLM business. PHP agency. It's a "life insurance" agency. At least that what they're portraying to the public and the government in order to stay legal. But it's really just a pyramid scheme with "financial services" being the "product".
There is a Coffeezilla episode on it.
"when do most vaccine side effects appear" but this isn't most vaccines, this is the first major rollout of an mRNA vaccine. Lipid nanoparticles being fragile seems irrelevant, as the main concern is the spike proteins that are produced from the mrna process, the process that is activated is the concern not the initial form of the particle. And we do see an increased risk of myocarditis as a result, so it seems like the hesitation was somewhat justified. Why not allow people to be cautious and make a personal decision rather than mandate these vaccines when it is using a new technology that isn't time tested? Why not have a targeted rollout targeting the most vulnerable, elderly, overweight etc. To many it seems that the profitability of a mass vaccination influenced the policy decisions.
The vast majority of people that refused the vaccine also refused masks. They do not care at all about the science. They cared because of political beliefs. Please go ask any contractor that refused the vaccine why they did so. When you say "To Many" you are referring to people that regurgitate very specific talking points from influencers. Not everyday working class people. Where the fuck were any of you talking about any of the multiple prescriptions that are illegal in other Countries but are given out in the states? Oh that doesnt give you the right attention and now that vaccines are done none of you have said a fucking peep about them. Doesn't give you any views and likes talking about Bactrim.
@@Onthebrink5 calm down you are making a ton of assumptions and generalizations. Also your logic works against you. Most people only wore cloth masks when the studies clearly showed that only n95 masks were effective. Then there were tons of people wanting to prolong school closures despite the science showing clearly that children were not at threat from the virus. There were hysterical people on both sides that ignored the science. I wore a mask, but when I developed heart soreness right after taking the first shot, I decided it was not worth risking any more shots in case the shot was responsible. People might’ve forgone the vaccine for any number of reasons, some simply were opposing what they saw as authoritarian measures invading their bodily autonomy. As a young healthy person with a strong immune system, who was aware of the risk of myocarditis in young men and with a potential bad reaction to the first shot I made the choice not to get any more. I always vetted the information I was receiving with scientific papers and studies published in reputable journals. When I got covid I was sick for only 2 days. Im pro vaccine, even these mrna vaccines, however they are completely unnecessary for young healthy people and especially children. But for the elderly, immune compromised, or overweight people, these vaccines do wonders at reducing hospitalization and death. All of these conclusions are based on the best science I could find.
Once again; capitalism poisons society.
"And we do see" - not really. That is the whole problem with your side. Very little data, much conjecture.
"and make a personal decision" - it's not personal when the risk is getting lots of people sick, and accepting this sort of ignorance only leads to more problems when you choose to not comply with things that are good for everyone. Just look at how we've already dealt with issues like measles outbreaks because more than a few people think they are simply choosing for themselves, i.e. denying science and acting out of fear and ignorance.
"Why not have a targeted rollout..." - hey, buddy... THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. Nothing you said here was a worthwhile argument.
@@usucdik There are multiple studies and data that show myocarditis as a side effect from the vaccine. And the data shows covid has a very low lethality in healthy young adults and children. Data shows cloth masks being vastly ineffective. This is strong solid data from institutes in countries around the world that even the CDC acknowledges. It's not conjecture.
But the risk of spreading the virus is there regardless if you have been vaccinated or not. This is also backed up by strong data. The vaccines reduce spread, but not by a significant amount, and the virus spreads to a degree regardless of vaccination, that leads to the inevitability of everyone being infected at some point of another. So yes it absolutely is a personal health decision, the vaccine can protect you from more severe outcomes, but it wont prevent the inevitable outcome that everyone will be infected.
No it was not a targeted rollout, it was mandated in many jurisdictions that all adults be vaccinated, lest they lose rights to access public settings, and worse lose their jobs in many industries. This is authoritarian and unjustified. It's not backed up by science.
All of that is objective fact. It's not based on one side or another. I'm pro-vaccine, I think they saved a lot of lives. But it's pathetic that some have bowed to authoritarianism to own the conservatives.
PBD has become a know it all without a single fact to back up his claims.
Destiny still plugged in to the Matrix? I'll check back next year
Facts yo!!! He'd be great if he would wake up already!
3:16 pivotal debate fork for Tyson. Couldn't he have said to "people in the military lose their job" with "when there's a mass hospital overload you're gonna have staff that get infected, and eventually dead marines and veterans. Then forfeited territory. Military medical is coming home regardless."
Thank you for taking one for the science/healthcare team by educating people 😫🙏🏼
Should be science/healthcare team that does it, not to hide and let misinformation run rampant and let someone else untangle it.
@@RP-dy5mu The fuck do you expect? Scientists and medical professionals are good are science and medicine. They're not influencers.
Praise $cience
@@RP-dy5mu we've tried. People rather listen to social media stars instead, so at least Destiny's doing a service.
@@purpleamber1 go take another 2 boosters just to be sure wouldn't want you to get pregnant and raise another npc
So your whole 5 min rant about stopping transmission of virus aged poorly, fluent in English or not. Man all of these points didn’t make it 4 months the fragile mRNA. Time to start questioning your sources if the science after three years ages out in 4 months. Drip drip drip
We're dealing with an unprecedented level of willful ignorance. In the past when people were ignorant they had good reason, they didn't have so much access to information.
At around the 14 min mark: I worked as a kilo chemist developing one of the precursors to the mRNA vaccine and fragile is the right way to describe it. We worked day and night (me on nightshift) because it was only stable stored cold in a buffered solution, and the purification step had to be in an unbuffered solution. If we left a 4L container of the stuff on a rack overnight unbuffered, 30% of it would be gone the next morning.
Not anti vax in the least bit but you’re missing the whole point of this (speaking to the beginning of the video) . . . Those vaccines that the military take have been tested for years and years, the covid vaccine hasn’t/wasn’t tested for years and years. THAT’S why PBD was skeptical about it. Bringing up other vaccines would be a strawman, no?
You can’t wait years and years during an outbreak of the thing your making a vaccine for genius. It’s extremely unlikely a vaccine with suddenly cause problems 20 years down the line but be perfectly fine before that.
Yes
That is actually not true at all. In some cases the military was the first human testing target.
You're also just using this as a red herring, since these people are CLEARLY acting anti-vax about this one vaccine, and it is almost entirely political in nature that drives them this way.
Oh so they do double blind placebo testing ? Oh the companys can be held liable for negligence? Oh yeah.. 😂
Its so nice to look back on this and know the people were right. It was the flu, and yall got played.
😊😊
Imagine being stupid enough to be in the military and then complaining about being forced to do things
Destiny can’t even get the research completed to launch his space probe, and we’re supposed trust his understanding of the intricacies of immunology??
😋
I almost died from 1 shot of the Pfizer . Mini stroke- Peri myocarditis - global hypokenesis of the heart as a result (destroyed my heart pretty much) 30 year old extremely healthy male before that one and only jab. 12 months in bed. Used to work out/ do kickboxing/mma for 25 hours a week . Peak of the « reaction » was 4-5 months after the shot. I honestly love destiny and listen to him to almost reassure myself that I made the right choice and won’t get more damage in the longer term, but it is the biggest regret of my life. A lot of people around me got messed up by those « vaccines » aswell. Been a rough year for me
Yeah me as well. First I had severe nerve damage then pericarditis. I knew better than to take the shot, but did it for work. It’s not “growing an extra arm in five years”, it’s dire effects following vaccine. There is no social contract and we should have let the virus run its course. So don’t tell me about the “science” when I have lived the backlash. I have never had a health issue in my life and nothing but issues since.
sorry that happened to you. but also, please understand that the same thing that put you through so much hardship is also the same thing that saved both my parents from covid.
@@jeremygonzal8603 your parents would have been fine. If they didn't get the first strain of COVID and only got it after the vaccines came out statistically there's a 99% chance they would have been absolutely a-okay.
The vaccine definitely saved my brother so I ain't complaining. I didn't take it because I knew I had some underlying diseases and the vaccine might make it worse. The vaccine itself isn't dangerous but if you are already a market of underlying conditions you might want to give the vaccine a second thought.
The vaccine is quite dangerous. I never had a health condition in my life. Two shots later nerve damage and myocarditis.
“That’s what the tests were for” No, no, fuck no. They literally admitted they never tested for this …
to be fair, i think it was pfizer who admited they tested on 8 mice. apparently the budget wouldn't be enough for 10. and that was enough to say it's safe
What are you referring to?
@@teoteo3522 transmission, Pfizer admitted they never tested for the transmission prevention of these vaccines.
@@jdeli5655 Lol, if thats true (pls give linkzzz), they are unbelievably dumb/corrupt. Like the whole reason people were FORCED to take that shit is because you were less likely to kill grandma.
@@teoteo3522 i think some European commission questioned some big wig from Pfizer or CDC and it was a shit show... basically they didn't test the vaccine at all
Yeah Typhoid Mary had it rough... Like, you're just working as a maid and people are dying around you... Then you start having these people like accusing you of being diseased (even though you don't feel any symptoms and the idea of being asymptomatic was non-existent yet and on top of that I think being 'diseased' kind of had a big stigma around it) and they're like harassing you for samples of urine and stuff... And then you just keep going as a maid avoiding these weird people, meanwhile more people die around you until you finally gotta be like "Welp, I guess they were right..."
@Destiny How about the off-target effects of the Spike Protein... 25:50. What a stupid comment, whoever that was.
Destiny is acting exactly like the people says he can't stand how ironic
How so?
He is acting that way so much that I can't even pick out a single example to put in my generically vague comment!
The people saying chronic myocarditis is common are dumb as bricks. Chronic cases are 10-15% of myocarditis cases. 10-15% for an already rare disease (0.5-3.5% of heart failure hospitilizations are from myocarditis).
What was the mortality rate of covid again.
@@SlyNine from the resources I've seen, overall for the US, its been 1.1% of Covid cases have been fatal, ie. 101m+ people have died from Covid in the US so far.
@@nicholasjacobs6605 I think you mean thousand not million. (101+m would be almost a third of the pop)
I think the myocarditis issue has more do to with the fundamental lack of integrity surrounding covid's discussion by the polical and pop scientific community rather than a real significant side effect which would withdraw the drug from the market.
@@link10909 Sorry meant 1.1m, I was a little tired while typing.
Defending "not forced" by saying you only lose your job, can't go to your friends, family, school or a store and comparing it to a military breach of your home is next level delusional.
Can't go to your friends, family, or a store? Wtf are you talking about?
And the small amount of dumb people who were working federal jobs and didn't wanna get vaccinated, were free to find work elsewhere if they wanted to be dumb.
They weren't forced. No one forced them to be dumb
@@gregorsamsa1364 I'm not from USA so I don't 100% know how the lockdowns happened there, but in my country you couldn't visit a store unless you had a proof of vaccination and if they caught you hanging out with friends you would get fined.
Grow up
@@johnnyflannigan136 you dont think thats extreme?
We never had a rule about needing a vaccine to go outside in the USA.
Destinys worst takes are on vaccines. Its cringe to hear him talk about "the military takes vaccines, so whats the big deal with this vax?" As if their at all comparable.
Destiny Literally knows nothing about Science. Debate a Scientist who disagrees with you please
grow some balls and say what he doesn’t know
"If you look at stats, you'll see statistics about Florida. I go to California and they say, why did the NBA go to Florida ???" Can't beat that solid gold logic! 🤷🏾♀️
During the pandemic, I got to a point where I could only chuckle when people with little to no scientific knowledge thought they schooled me with baseless claims about the pathogen & vaccine. I mean, I only studied microbiology, immunology and biochemistry among other STEM courses but what do I know 🤷♂
Edit: Wow, I didn't expect PBD to take such a big L here
PBD is such a pseudo intellectual. He acts like he’s the shit
Soooo get the shot and I won't get covid, right? Or were you just here to stroke yourself off with accomplishment bragging?
Debates are about arguments, not your diplomas.
@@jboss1073
You are correct but when one who knows little to nothing about of the scientific method tries to disprove trivial/logical notions with no peer reviewed studies is not making a solid argument
@@TheNewSchoolGamer There are no templates for dismissing novel arguments. We have to analyze each one individually. Otherwise you're just being racist towards arguments.
How is this still a conversation
13:15 this happens because they don’t have any slight understanding of “correlation doesn’t imply causation” just lump it all together because it fits with my “skepticism”
So you mean the same not-understanding of "correlation doesn't imply causation" that our mainstream media and major political class committed to whenever the discussion was about the Covid-death rate? (dying from or with Covid)
What is the absolute risk reduction from these “vaccines”?
this might be the first fair critique I've seen from you vaccine NPC's