PSA: Hitbox has confirmed that the Cross-Up is now compatible with the WingmanFGC. I had a very early product sample without the latest firmware during the making of this video. Also now available on Brook’s Amazon shop: amzn.to/3oBfv77
Can you use two Brooks simultaneously for the second player? Let me clarify I want to build an arcade machine and I want to use two arcade controllers for both players can I use a second brook device for the second controller
Thanks for sharing your results, starting at 2:07! This is the exact fightstick model (Madcatz SF4 TE) I own for PS3. I hated using it on PS4, because you had to also have your PS4 controller on at the same time with the fightstick plugged in. Plus, my PS4 controller would turn off automatically after 10 mins as a power saving function.
I am definitely adding this to my collection as I prefer custom controllers that use different PCBs. Also at that price I don't need to buy individual UP5 daughter boards for each UFB I have (already own 2). I am also glad it works with the pico board as my travel size mixbox uses a pico board and I normally bring the ps4 wingman to use it on the PS4 and now I can bring the fgc one. Also I love that they call it the wingman fgc and embrace that branding for the community.
Tito Joe Knee hitting us up with the Brook tech news... The Sega Saturn tribute controller was definitely the "wtf I can't believe this worked" moment.😂😂😂
I already have two of my stickless controllers that work flawlessly on my PS5, the new 2023 model of the Snack Box Micro, and the Hori Real Arcade Pro N, but I’m still going to cop this because Brook makes quality products and I would like to have this just to test out my controllers on my PS5.
Awesome.. still have 2 fightsticks hanging around as "decor" from PS3 days.. was thinking of upgrading the motherboard at first, but this seems to be the better option and possible success rate in having those working, I'll be looking into scooping this up in the near future.
Now let's see if Sony is going to continue their cat'n'mouse game of issuing Playstation updates that block Brook products and require firmware updates by Brook like they did on PS4.
It’s just business. Sony obviously has an intrest in people buying Playstation controllers and Playstation licensed products. So businesses like Brook has to play catch up and there’s no changing that situation.
@@frankbauerful Nintendo is the 100x more overprotective and anal about their IP than Sony and MS. It's just this one thing Nintendo isn't bitchin' about :)
It's gonna be interesting since they now own EVO and they explicitly allow Brook Adapters to be used in the tournament rules (as in they refer to them by name).
Thank you!! I missed out on getting the internal PS5 pcb for the og snackbox micro and it's a big ??? as to when they'll be back in stock, so I'm happy to hear this is a great option for ultra low latency connectivity to PS5! Be well! -KPB|Camyoin
not too sure why mine wasn’t working, maybe it has to do with the different modes you can set the crossup to. It’s still very early and I’m sure they are fine tuning the firmware
2:41 I wasn't able to get the Brook Retro Board to work with the Wingman FGC. I'm going to retry the Retro Board with the Wingman FGC on the PlayStation 5. I just tested it on the PlayStation 4 with the retro board and got it to work, so it makes no sense for it to not also work on the PlayStation 5.
Bro I'm mad happy that brook listen to us son this video confirmed I kept sending emails to them like they need to do a converter for people that don't have the money to buy new arcades next to play on PS5 It's not fair that everybody has to just jump right over and buy a new stick I mean there's options but they're not cheap so when I seen this that's definitely confirms that they were listening to me and to others thanks a lot for this vid JF
Of course right after I just dropped $135 on the snack box ps5 pcb because I wasn't sure if brooks would have these ready in time for Evo Vegas it comes out. I swear man every new console generation forces us to spend $300-$500 on new controllers because of one console maker wanting you to use their stuff. I'm still looking forward to the day all tournaments are run on PC to avoid this archaic system of console making with using only their special peripherals.
@@drftr6073 True but those snack box PS5 PCBs are already sold out, so it was buy it now or maybe be one of those people asking to use someone's PS5 pad because Brook hadn't announced a date yet and it's unknown when another batch of PCBs are coming in. Junkfood even made an announcement if you want to be able to play SF6 at Evo you'll want to get this batch as they weren't sure there would be another batch in time for Evo. When stuff is shipped over seas it can be 2-4 months before another shipment comes in so I bought it, although I might have waited if Brook had said something earlier. That said it will probably be 2 months before these wingmans are even available and that's if there are no snags in production/shipping (they are hoping for May/June). Luckily supply chains aren't as jacked up but I can't tell you how many times 2 month deliveries became 4-6 months on over sea supplies in the last 3 years.
Still a good purchase, converters are more of a utlitily - especially if you have a bunch of old controllers than you dont want to spent money on upgrading. If the micro is your main controller, you made a wise choice to update it. All my main sticks have Brook's UFB + UP5 PS5 Mod so i dont have to worry about compatibility when I head out to events.
Nice! Not sure if the raspberry pico results cover this question, but should this be compatible with PCBs running GP2040? Like the Flatbox rev 4 for example? Excited to grab my own when this comes in!
The PS4 hori commander is so much better than the PS5 version its ridiculous. The pad is better and the top side buttons (R1 R2 L1 L2) aren't so huge that they take up the entire topside of the controller. Im always getting wrong inputs because I accidentally hit them. I'm gonna have to get this so I can go back to using the ps4 version. Thanks for the review!!
Hello good evening, I have a hori alpha xbox controller, I'm using this adapter, but the touch button is missing, because the xbox arcade doesn't have it.
Brooke converters are crazy man, i got one with a PS3 TE fightstick and i've been having more fun dicking around with the converter than actually using the stick LOL, Logitech Chillstream? Works. Wierd bootleg PS2 to PS3 converter with a stinky bootleg PS2 cont? no problem. Wii Classic controller > Wii mote > 8Bitdo adapter > Wingman? somehow still works like a charm.
Thanks for this! This will come in handy for whenever I use a PS3 stick on my PS5! Will this allow sticks that require a controller to be connected to the stick (i.e. MayFlash, MadCatz (EGO and TE3), and PXN) to bypass that restriction?
So what exactly is the difference between this and the XE 2? I've tested it on both the PS5 and PS4 with numerous different controllers and had pretty much no issues. What advantage does this have? Is it just more fightstick/hitbox compatibility or something?
Will I be able to use the Wingman FGC on a PS4 too? I got a gp2040 based hitbox and I can't use that on a PS4, so it will be cool if this is a single solution for PS5/PS4
Do you think it would be better to get upcoming fighting games on PC or PS5? MK1, SF6, future Tekken? I don't play tournaments, just wondering if the PC versions of fighting games have caught up to consoles or if the ports are junk.
It should, but they’ve optimized it since launch so I would still make sure it’s running on the latest firmware. Also a version 2 is dropping soon that supports all ps5 games (not just fighters).
For the brook wingman series. There are different firmware modes you can use which change the colors to indicate the differences. Really doesn’t matter though.
Is it true there’s no analog stick support on Xbox series x controller? I preordered already for my hitbox but there’s no way I want to get used to that dpad.
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Jonyfraze always has the best fgc related tech videos. I'm definitely buying one of these.
awesome video , straight to the point and the testing of the peripherals on point.
I appreciate the quick intro and right to the good stuff too.
PSA: Hitbox has confirmed that the Cross-Up is now compatible with the WingmanFGC. I had a very early product sample without the latest firmware during the making of this video. Also now available on Brook’s Amazon shop: amzn.to/3oBfv77
Was this the ps5 version of kof15 I have a nacon controller is it gonna work
Cool
Nice
Nice
Can you use two Brooks simultaneously for the second player? Let me clarify I want to build an arcade machine and I want to use two arcade controllers for both players can I use a second brook device for the second controller
Awesome! I was hoping for something to get my 1st gen snackbox micro. Thanks Fraze for trying it out!
I got to give you props for this. The Nintendo Switch controllers was the look for me.
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Excited!! Can't wait to pick this up
Very informative. Especially glad to know that this works with the Hori FC4.
Thanks for sharing your results, starting at 2:07! This is the exact fightstick model (Madcatz SF4 TE) I own for PS3.
I hated using it on PS4, because you had to also have your PS4 controller on at the same time with the fightstick plugged in.
Plus, my PS4 controller would turn off automatically after 10 mins as a power saving function.
I am definitely adding this to my collection as I prefer custom controllers that use different PCBs. Also at that price I don't need to buy individual UP5 daughter boards for each UFB I have (already own 2). I am also glad it works with the pico board as my travel size mixbox uses a pico board and I normally bring the ps4 wingman to use it on the PS4 and now I can bring the fgc one. Also I love that they call it the wingman fgc and embrace that branding for the community.
Damn indeed. That means I can use a Sega Saturn controller on this thing. Possibly the best D Pad of all time. This is a day one purchase for me
Tito Joe Knee hitting us up with the Brook tech news...
The Sega Saturn tribute controller was definitely the "wtf I can't believe this worked" moment.😂😂😂
just had my Wingman arrive and it worked perfectly on my old fightstick with the original PS3 Brook PCB.
I already have two of my stickless controllers that work flawlessly on my PS5, the new 2023 model of the Snack Box Micro, and the Hori Real Arcade Pro N, but I’m still going to cop this because Brook makes quality products and I would like to have this just to test out my controllers on my PS5.
Awesome.. still have 2 fightsticks hanging around as "decor" from PS3 days.. was thinking of upgrading the motherboard at first, but this seems to be the better option and possible success rate in having those working, I'll be looking into scooping this up in the near future.
Much easier too than opening it up and all that.
Great...i just recently place my order for Up5, an adapter to play Ps5 natively for Brook Universal Fightboard.
It's honestly fantastic
Sold. Coming in the mail. Thanks
This is just what I am looking for! I have a stick with an old Brook P3/P4 pcb in and have been worried I'm going to have to buy a brand new stick.
So sick. I can't wait to snag one of these
Sick video. I didn't know brook adapters worked with PC only sticks
So it works with fightsticks that only works on PC too?
Now let's see if Sony is going to continue their cat'n'mouse game of issuing Playstation updates that block Brook products and require firmware updates by Brook like they did on PS4.
It’s just business. Sony obviously has an intrest in people buying Playstation controllers and Playstation licensed products.
So businesses like Brook has to play catch up and there’s no changing that situation.
@@epicon6 Microsoft isn't being so aggressive and Nintendo doesn't try to prevent 3rd party devices at all. Sony is uniquely being shitty here.
@@frankbauerful Nintendo is the 100x more overprotective and anal about their IP than Sony and MS. It's just this one thing Nintendo isn't bitchin' about :)
It's gonna be interesting since they now own EVO and they explicitly allow Brook Adapters to be used in the tournament rules (as in they refer to them by name).
I missed the opportunity to pre-order CrossUp. I feel lucky that I did.😂
Yaaaaaaaaaaaay. I've got every ps4 stick and I definitely wanna keep using em on my ps5 without swapping pcbs. Dope
Definitely buying this
Thank you!! I missed out on getting the internal PS5 pcb for the og snackbox micro and it's a big ??? as to when they'll be back in stock, so I'm happy to hear this is a great option for ultra low latency connectivity to PS5! Be well! -KPB|Camyoin
Very informative. Thank you.
Don't know if it has been already addressed, but the video is unlisted. Great video, didn't expect the Saturn to actually work, nice surprise there.
Yeah it’s by design, Brook wants it to release publicly at a certain time.
I just seen a Twitter Post from Brook with the HitBox Crossup working on multiple PS5 games.
not too sure why mine wasn’t working, maybe it has to do with the different modes you can set the crossup to. It’s still very early and I’m sure they are fine tuning the firmware
@@jonyfraze hopefully it was a firmware issue. I can't wait for this to come out. 👍👍
Thanks for sharing the good news! :)
I was looking to see if the MadKatz controller worked……and it does!!! 😮😊
might need to get one if this will work with my hitbox running a zero pi
Thank you, this is amazing!
2:41 I wasn't able to get the Brook Retro Board to work with the Wingman FGC.
I'm going to retry the Retro Board with the Wingman FGC on the PlayStation 5. I just tested it on the PlayStation 4 with the retro board and got it to work, so it makes no sense for it to not also work on the PlayStation 5.
Fraze doing the lords work
Great video 💪
Brook always comes through clutch. 💯
So pumped for this. Appreciate the update man 😊
That’s cool for the non modders or Xbox console users
Bro I'm mad happy that brook listen to us son this video confirmed I kept sending emails to them like they need to do a converter for people that don't have the money to buy new arcades next to play on PS5 It's not fair that everybody has to just jump right over and buy a new stick I mean there's options but they're not cheap so when I seen this that's definitely confirms that they were listening to me and to others thanks a lot for this vid JF
Great video! I was wondering when they were gonna release the PS5 version
Keep In mind this is for fighting games only
@@jonyfraze oh I know! I got the ps4 version still on my PS3 marvel vs Capcom 2 te stick lol I just went and upgrade to the obsidian stick.
Thanks dude !! This is exactly the video I was looking for.
My dream is to use the Manbaone controller on my ps5 via wingman adapter for ps4 games.
Of course right after I just dropped $135 on the snack box ps5 pcb because I wasn't sure if brooks would have these ready in time for Evo Vegas it comes out. I swear man every new console generation forces us to spend $300-$500 on new controllers because of one console maker wanting you to use their stuff. I'm still looking forward to the day all tournaments are run on PC to avoid this archaic system of console making with using only their special peripherals.
brother, evo is in august...
@@drftr6073 True but those snack box PS5 PCBs are already sold out, so it was buy it now or maybe be one of those people asking to use someone's PS5 pad because Brook hadn't announced a date yet and it's unknown when another batch of PCBs are coming in. Junkfood even made an announcement if you want to be able to play SF6 at Evo you'll want to get this batch as they weren't sure there would be another batch in time for Evo. When stuff is shipped over seas it can be 2-4 months before another shipment comes in so I bought it, although I might have waited if Brook had said something earlier. That said it will probably be 2 months before these wingmans are even available and that's if there are no snags in production/shipping (they are hoping for May/June). Luckily supply chains aren't as jacked up but I can't tell you how many times 2 month deliveries became 4-6 months on over sea supplies in the last 3 years.
Same bruh lol 😂
Still a good purchase, converters are more of a utlitily - especially if you have a bunch of old controllers than you dont want to spent money on upgrading. If the micro is your main controller, you made a wise choice to update it. All my main sticks have Brook's UFB + UP5 PS5 Mod so i dont have to worry about compatibility when I head out to events.
Nice! Not sure if the raspberry pico results cover this question, but should this be compatible with PCBs running GP2040? Like the Flatbox rev 4 for example? Excited to grab my own when this comes in!
Yeah the pico runs off that firmware if I’m not mistaken.
@@jonyfraze great to hear! Thanks for the quick response and awesome vid! Fun to see some parts of your collection as well 🙏
The PS4 hori commander is so much better than the PS5 version its ridiculous. The pad is better and the top side buttons (R1 R2 L1 L2) aren't so huge that they take up the entire topside of the controller. Im always getting wrong inputs because I accidentally hit them. I'm gonna have to get this so I can go back to using the ps4 version. Thanks for the review!!
I have a mayflash f500 elite and just use a magic system pro ultimate for ps5
Will Brook FGC compatible with controllers like PS3? 3:19
Just wanna get this straight before I buy one. An Xbox Controller worked perfectly fine on a PS5?
Yes. I used a series s controller and my older madcatz 360 pad
Hello good evening, I have a hori alpha xbox controller, I'm using this adapter, but the touch button is missing, because the xbox arcade doesn't have it.
Brooke converters are crazy man, i got one with a PS3 TE fightstick and i've been having more fun dicking around with the converter than actually using the stick LOL,
Logitech Chillstream? Works. Wierd bootleg PS2 to PS3 converter with a stinky bootleg PS2 cont? no problem. Wii Classic controller > Wii mote > 8Bitdo adapter > Wingman? somehow still works like a charm.
That’s crazy.
Amazing man! Thank you so much for this info! 👌🏻🤝🏻
Did you get a chance to test brook wireless fighting board(wired)
Yes it works
Praise Da Lordddd.... i was waiting so patiently
I need that
Thanks for this! This will come in handy for whenever I use a PS3 stick on my PS5!
Will this allow sticks that require a controller to be connected to the stick (i.e. MayFlash, MadCatz (EGO and TE3), and PXN) to bypass that restriction?
It works with the generic zero delay board?
Hi, I got a Brook FGC, but my Retro-Bit Saturn pad is not connecting to my PS5 what should do?
Use the command for “home”. From my memory I believe the start button becomes the shift key.
@jonyfraze with the retrobit saturn pad u tested did u have to remap any buttons
No but since there’s no “home” button you have to press the combo command
For some reason when i press the c button it doesnt hit heavy punch it seems like certain things werent mapped correctly
useless in India it's cost converter 6000₹ and you can buy decent joystick 9k to 15k for ps5
Obviously do that then 👍🏼
🦊 Amazing video as always brother! Thank you for the incredible content as always! 💪🏻🦊
I was ready to order one but the wireless one in development you mention at 1:48 is worth the wait for me.
Wired better nah for less input lag
ps4 madcatz shadaloo street fighter 5 version works?
The TES+? If so yes.
Can you plug a Keyboard to this adapter and then remap it? So that for example I press A it would register as Square?
Not 100% sure but I’m leaning towards no.
Some reason my Blue Xbox Series X/S is not working at all with the adapter. Just blue blinking on the converter. Any clue why?
The Wingman FGC is wired only. So make sure it’s connected to via the cable. Try updating the firmware?
Firmware updated but still having issues with it connecting. Possibly Microsoft/brooks removed the support? @@jonyfraze
Does the PS4 Controller (DS4) left stick work on the PS5 FGC Games ?
Sup Lionheart, yes the analog directions work. Just Tested on KOF15 for you.
Nice thanks !
I wonder if it work with diy fighting sticks
It should depending on what PCB you use.
My Q4raf doesn’t work :[
So what exactly is the difference between this and the XE 2? I've tested it on both the PS5 and PS4 with numerous different controllers and had pretty much no issues. What advantage does this have? Is it just more fightstick/hitbox compatibility or something?
You can’t play PS5 games with the XE2, only PS4 titles running on the PS5.
@@jonyfraze Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.
Just to clarify this would be compatible with the wireless fight board as well as long as I'm wired?
Yes
@@jonyfraze gratitude as always there has never been a question you did not answer 🙏🏿 🐐'd
the dual shock 4 does work wireless
Not when connected to the wingman fgc. There no bluetooth connectivity in the Wingman FGC and cant be paired to it.
Will I be able to use the Wingman FGC on a PS4 too? I got a gp2040 based hitbox and I can't use that on a PS4, so it will be cool if this is a single solution for PS5/PS4
Yes
Can you check if the Mortal Kombat 9 arcade stick for ps3 works with MK11 ps5 version? thanks
I don’t own it sorry
@@jonyfraze ok thanks
I want to ask, this is for PS5 only or can I use it on PS4 as well?
Works on ps4
Will this work on the Brooks ps4 AUdio fight board i used it to make a Hitbox 3:41
Yeah just not wirelessly
Does Mixbox work with the Wingman FGC converter?
yes because they are using Brook PCBs internally.
Do you think it would be better to get upcoming fighting games on PC or PS5? MK1, SF6, future Tekken? I don't play tournaments, just wondering if the PC versions of fighting games have caught up to consoles or if the ports are junk.
Quite the opposite, PC is now the standard. All of the pro Fighting Game players have switched to pc.
@@jonyfraze thank you for the insight!
Could you please tell me if it works for Mortal Kombat 1?
yes it does.
Madcatz fightstick pro working with wingman?
Yes all madcatz sticks from 360/ps3+ Gen work
@@jonyfraze thanks, i will go route conversion kit to hitbox layout and wingman.
Doesn't the magic pro s do the same thing?
No clue but Brook is the only converters allowed in major tournaments
@@jonyfraze oh wow for real? I didn't know that. Shit I'ma have to grab one now🤔. Thanks for the info👍
Does the converter work straight out of the box, or did you have to connect it to a pc to firmware update it??
It should, but they’ve optimized it since launch so I would still make sure it’s running on the latest firmware. Also a version 2 is dropping soon that supports all ps5 games (not just fighters).
@@jonyfraze
Thanks for the speedy reply, much appreciated.
Ola amigo es compatible con.el.panel táctil porque hay unos que no funcionan tengo razer phanter y me gustaría que funcionara para poderlo comprar
Sometimes brook maps TP press to share.
So I have a hori nintendo switch arcade stick can I use this to play diablo 4 on ps5 or no?
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Brook states this is only for fighting games but people have had some luck using it on other genre titles. Not too sure about Diablo.
Do you need one wingman per controller or can you use a usb splitter when playing with two controllers for local vs battle?
One per controller.
@@jonyfraze thanks bro 😎
mine doesnt glow blue; its red.. does that mean anything
For the brook wingman series. There are different firmware modes you can use which change the colors to indicate the differences. Really doesn’t matter though.
hi, this key work with the leverless stick RAC J800B ??
I believe it does
What about with a zero delay board?
Haven’t personally tested but I’ve heard some reports it does work
Anyone know if the betop thorn work on ps5 using this? I really like the look of that fightpad
Does it works with the Mayflash f300 elite ?
Yes it should
What people have been wating for is for sonny to not be scumbags and let us use our old hardware
Why does this video not show up in search results or your main channel feed?
Yeah it’s by design, Brook wants it to release publicly at a certain time.
@@jonyfraze 👍👍👍👍👍
Mine was working fine up until I realized there’s no touchpad on my fightstick.
try hitting share, brook usually maps TP to share for their converters
It's still not working for some reason. Switched to an Xbox One controller to check and that didn't solve anything either. @@jonyfraze
Is it true there’s no analog stick support on Xbox series x controller? I preordered already for my hitbox but there’s no way I want to get used to that dpad.
But this new realease also goes on ps4 and pc,right?
Yes
Does it convert a Logitech steering wheel from Xbox to PS5?
No Brook has another solution for that
Anyone know if it works with the fight box b1 pc?
Wingman is compatible with the panel 2 player behind you ? I have a Xinmotek controller bus stick, should be great if it works with them
It only works for 1 player.
@@jonyfraze 1 player on 2 players panel ?
Thx
@@bernardpeur1802 One Wingman per Player. You cannot plug a 2 player controller into the wingman.
@@jonyfraze thx alot
This adaptor works with the Haute 42 Hitboxes?
Should work on the pass through slot for sure as well as a standard adapter
Thanks bro, I still on ps4. I have the brook for that. I like ps4, I only like Xbox controllers tho, now I can get a ps5. I only play COD tho😔😣😢😥
I still got my madcatz te2 for 360 / PC, does this make it compatible with ps5 ? (sf6)
Yes
When does this drop?