I’m sure EVO and the release of Street Fighter 6 is only driving demand up and up. I’m hoping to snag one of these and save some money on an older Fight stick.
I think it would be hard for companies to make sure their products supported everything, especially when there are new controllers and technologies being developed constantly. You can't blame playstation for not being able to predict what controller will be used 10 years from the time they create a system.
@@cremonsterno that’s not really a good argument let me explain my point. My understanding is these controllers are just controllers that Sony is aware of most of these controllers are just ps4 controller Sony could easily allow them to be used if they wanted too my fight stick is a ps4 controller on the inside basicly but it doesn’t work on ps5 and I’m pissed
This is a business if Sony allows all controllers to play on their systems then you won't by there products for the PS5 and future own game consoles sony knows what there doing
This would be pretty nice for the 8bitdo Arcade Stick since you can switch to the left and right stick for World Tour mode unlike my PS4 Hori Stick only having a dpad input.
The Madcatz TE sticks have this as well. The TE2 for PS3/PS4 does not need this adapter. And as the other reply said, you can hold down HP and use the LP/MP to turn left/right, or LK/MK to look up/down.
As you said most officially licensed PS4 sticks work fine, Its the fightpads where the issue occurs. The PS4 madcatz fightpads don't work and the older fighting commanders do not work either
I own the xbox one, switch, ps4 and ps2 brook converters. I can confirm these are an absolute godsend. Playing cvs2 on my ps2 using my xb360 madcatz stick is 👌
Wait, what?! That's awesome. If I can use my 360 MCTE sticks on the One or Series that would save me a ton of money and give me time to upgrade to newer sticks.
@@sonyx5332 with stick it has to be wired. Wireless with other controllers does work, BUT I've had issues such occasional lag and disconnects. Keep it wired.
This Wingman looks like a absolute godsend for me someone who is still using my Mad Catz TE-S 360 stick. Well done Brook! You have saved me a lot of money!
I’m not seeing a couple of the controllers listed on this thread, but I see no reason why they wouldn’t have a firmware update that will add compatibility in the near future. Could even send them your specific controller or name of controller for them to be able to work on it, I’d imagine a deadline they set themselves up for would be for combo breaker.
@@kaibaman9651 I just presumed because the list I seen states that the Xbox 360 Mad Catz TE is compatible with this adapter so I would have thought that my Mad Catz TE-S which is basically the exact same stick just in a different case would work with this adapter. I really hope that it does as I don't really want to buy a new stick for SF6, T8 etc when my good old TE-S Is still working fine and has never missed a beat in all the time I've owned it. *if Brook read this comment please make sure that the 360 TE-S is also compatible, thank you very much! 🙏
Found their support for some range of controllers a bit patchy; for instance, the Wingman for the Xbox Series X and certain old Mad Catz sticks (e.g. TES+). Don’t assume they support all Mad Catz sticks.
Thinking of using a DIY controller with Brook board (i have ps4 audio wireless board). With the Brook Wingman FGC, I don't have to buy the UFB with PS5 upgrade, so that would be awesome. However, until I finish it, I thought of using the DualSense. With this converter, I could use my good ol' Hori Fighter Commander (the old one without analog stick).
Thank you for pointing this out! I wanted to use my MPress for SF6 and was surprised it didn't work. This is definitely cheaper than what it would cost to upgrade the board in the MPress after talking to Paradise about it
As a PC player, I think needing a hardware converter for a controller that's literally just 16 or so switches is pretty bonkers. It's designed for the previous iteration of the same product, and connects through USB, how hard can it be?
Sony and their bullshit proprietary stuff including controller drivers.
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It's intentional. Sony wants to tightly control what peripherals you're allowed to use. It's not that they _can't_ allow you to use a simple box with buttons; it's that they don't want you to.
as a PC player who has recently moved to a city with a local scene this is what has kept me from showing up. I've got a knock off hitbox that my PC sees just fine, but I didn't opt for the one that is compatible with the PS4 which is what everyone uses in the FGC as I didn't forsee moving to a city where it'd matter. I realize investing in a bunch of gaming laptops adds a layer of complication and investment, but boy do I wish the FGC would get off of PS4. Anything can plug into a PC.
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@@G0rgar FWIW, there's now a $5 option you can install in your controller to get PS4 compatibility. GP2040-CE, look it up
I've been using a Wingman XB on my Xbox Series X for the past 2 years. I'm able to use my PS4 and PS5 controllers on my Xbox and they even work wirelessly and have rumble. I can also use pretty much any other controller that I want, and the firmware is constantly being updated to add new controllers. These Wingman converters are such amazing tools to give more freedom of controller choice to console players.
I'm sort of regretting buying my Qanba obsidian II. I Wanted a native ps5 stick for all manner of ps5 games so I bought the Obsidian but really I prefer my Qanba dragon. It's all modded and nice and just needed this adapter to be usable on ps5 games on my PS5. Sigh.
@@DjGo99 when you plug it in and try and play a ps5 game like the new ninja turtles game I believe it just says it's not a ps5 controller and to plug one in. It may be different when playing fighting games but I want a stick that plays all games as arcade sticks are fun for all types of game (shoot em ups, beat em ups etc).
I guess this will be available in my area around 2 to 3 months from now. I'm pretty sure this should work also on any direct input controllers or like controllers made in using pi pico rp2040.
Man they got this thing out kinda late… some people be freakin out right now cuz they need one of these for the open beta in 2 days! Thankfully my Victrix is arriving just in time this week…
PS5 Explanation: - DualShock 4 and aftermarket pads don't work for PS5 games because Sony wants people to experience DualSense features (haptic feedback and adaptive triggers). - Legacy Support on PS5: It's based off Developers to include legacy support for specific genres of PS5 games. Most PS5 fighters should support all officially licensed PS4 arcade sticks just like PS5 racing sims should support officially licensed PS4 steering wheels and flight sims with flight sticks/HOTAS. - Brook Wingman Converters: Brook's flagship converters that converts the market's most popular inputs, Dinput and Xinput. Almost all USB based peripherals use either signal. Wingman series has replaces their single compatible Super Converter series. - Brook Wingman, Fusion and UP5 addon all do the same thing, they emulate the PS4 legacy support feature meaning that you can only use these items for PS5 fighting games. - Razer Raion is the only known PS4 controller/pad that is recognized under the legacy support for some unknown reason. Great for padhacks (stripping down a controller to it's PCB) and pad players. I've been using my salvaged Fighting Edge (RAP4 PCB) since I got my PS5, I just got myself a new fight stick and replacing the RP2040 Pico Pi PCB with a padhacked DualSense PCB (my launch PS5 controller that has left analog drift and PS button doesn't work like 98% of the time).
I've played on the same Qanba Q2 Glow stick since 2013 (Xbox360/PC), and used a USB Brook convertor for several years to use it on PS4. Will be playing SF6 on PC so no convertor required anymore (Gotta love PC). Anyway definitely recommend brook convertors.
Ditto. This is the most important thing to find out and I'm a little disappointed there was no input lag testing done in this video. I used a brooks converter before and there was definitely noticeable input lag. (360 -> PS4 conversion.)
@@AngelicRequiemX you really need the appropriate equipment to lag test, so it's probably good Nihongo didn't bother. Too many youtubers try less accurate tests like just hitting two buttons at once or slowing a camera, and it's not worth it imo when you are concerned with milliseconds. The usual fgc data scientists will put this converter thru the paces to help people out.
I use the wingman for xbox and its great. I love not having to worry about controllers! I don’t know how the ps5 version works but can you disconnect ps3/4 controllers after the pair and use them wirelessly?
Gonna order this simply to use ds4 on ps5 games. Haven't got a fight stick yet but im interested in a mayflash f300 elite as i want it for PlayStation and switch, this will pair nicely with it i reckon.
I actually have a PS5 compatible SnackBox Micro but I recently bought a used SFIV era TE stick (the ones from 2009). It was in great condition and I could not resist. I regretted selling mine and I still want a regular stick around because I play SFIV in the arcades and don't want to get used to leverless for that game, so if I play IV at home I play on stick. This is such an awesome dongle, crazy that I can use a 2009 Xbox 360 stick on a PS5. Love the OG TE style.
Does this version of the wingman help with improving input delay? I’m using a PS5 victrix pro FS and was wondering if using one of these would be redundant or would actually improve the experience playing on PS5 (and PC if I choose to for other fighting games).
This adapter is amazing! I was able to resurrect my Hori FS3 (which has been in the cupboard since my PS3 broke years ago) and now I can play any fighting game on the PS5 with no problem. Thanks for the tip 👍
I just got into box controllers. thank goodness I got a ps5 upgraded board for mine but I think I'm gonna grab one of these to carry around just in case
If you are more tech savy, the same company makes a Universal Board for your arcade stick. If it plays games and has a USB, you can set your stick up to play on it. Its as simply as holding as button when you put it in to switch to the different profiles for consoles.
The UFB isn't compatible with the PS5. The UFB-UP5 upgrade only has the stick look like a legacy PS4 controller on a PS5. UFB Fusion has compatibility with the PS5, but only certain games.
@@KetsubanSolo Wow, you're right. If I plugged my stick into a PS5 right now, it can only play PS4 games for some reason. Another reason to not get a PS5, its just a PC anyway. I got one of those.
I'm using my home made Zero Pi controller with modded Happ buttons on Street Fighter 6. It works on PC, though I would need an adapter for PS4 since my bro wants a PS4 Pro for Street Fighter 6. Edit: Just got a PS5. Now need an adapter to use PS3 or Switch controllers on PS5.
I want to get a mixbox, but finding one with PS5 compatibility is not only difficult, but EXPENSIVE. Thanks to Brook, now I know there's an option that will save me a TON of cash. And @NihongoGamer, thank you SO MUCH for your videos. You've done so much for not only me, but gamers everywhere with your videos. I don't know if you hear this enough, but you are very appreciated and admired. Cheers!
good review.... but you didn't remove a doubt from me: this controller i could use it to play (AL PC) with quake\serious sam and similar? I mean, I could move the character with the stick, and at the same time manage viewfinder \ weapon change and shooting with the MOUSE? Thank you
I have the ultimate and it does the same but doesn't have that compatiblity with many USB controllers but can't say the same for this one since it hasn't been fully tested
@NihongoGamer I have a few 360/PS3/PC sticks that worked for me over the past few generations. With the help of Brook’s PS3 to PS4 and 360 to XB1 adapters, I’ve been able to avoid buying another pricey stick. What was cool is that *_some_* PS4 games detected a “Legacy” controller and would allow a PS3 stick to work with the game without an adapter(even when playing that PS4 game on a PS5). What was is cool about the XB1 adapter is that it also works for series X. Unfortunately that is not the case with my PS5. Will this new PS5 adapter work with PS3 sticks? What if you daisy chain a PS3 to PS4 adapter to this new PS5 one? Again, I’m just trying to avoid buying another expensive fight stick. I’d rather buy an adapter and a bunch of games then waste more money on another fight stick🤷🏻♂️
I know this is months late, but Brook put out a list of compatible sticks with the Fusion adapter and it includes basically every single licensed stick for 360 and PS3. So yes, it should work if your stick is Mad Catz/Eightarc/Qanba/Hori and even the Sega Virtua Stick is compatible.
@@Doyoulike4 thanks for the reply. I found out pretty quickly my stick would work with this adapter. Unfortunately, I was a bit disappointed that for some weird reason the adapter only works with fighting games (unlike the Xbox one adapter which works with all Xbox 1 & Series consoles and all games). Not sure how that’s even possible, but I decided to hold off on getting one. Hopefully an adapter that’ll work with all PS5 games will become available.
@@wolfgangpuff7030 Yeah so sony in their infinite wisdom decided to make legacy support only be required for fighting games, whereas microsoft uses the same controller code for xbone and series so a xbox one controller works for all series, but for sony ps4 stuff only works for fighting games. Even the Brook UP5/UFB Fusion is hooking onto the ps4 legacy support, not actual ps5 compatibility.
Funny that you made this about a Brook Wingman. I just grabbed the XB2 because we're in the middle of moving and I wanted to bring a small console so I grabbed my Xbox Series S. I dislike Xbox controllers so I got the XB2 so I can use my PS5 controller.
Thanks for the video. I'm hoping to get my HORI SF6 working along side my xbox ELite controller for World Tour mode. Still working on it. No luck so far.
Wait months for this to be in stock or just buy a new stick. Yeah I’m ordering a new stick lol. But I do love brook products. Been using one for years but I can’t wait months.
Still waiting on an all-purpose Brook Wingman PS5 adapter like what's on offer for Series X and Switch on down, but I've gotten plenty of use for my other adapters from them and yeah, they're quality.
Nothing has changed. It’s the same situation as before. Officially licensed PS4/PS5 controllers and arcade sticks work fine. That includes Victrix, Madcatz, Hori and Qanba sticks. However custom sticks and unlicensed 3rd party sticks like Etokki won’t work. There was also an issue using Brook PCBs as they weren’t officially licensed. To remedy this first Brook released an adapter that plugged directly into the PCB that added PS5 support and now they have PCBs that offer native PS5 support. So unfortunately this is nothing new.
Bullshit! So, why the hell not I can't use my Hori Fight Commander gamepad controller for Guilty Gear Strive PS5 version. And that controller is officially licensed by PlayStation.
I'm getting 2 of these :) One for my PS3 Madcatz Fightstick TE and the other for my 360 Madcatz Fightstick PRO. I'm still getting the Hori Fighting Stick OCTA for PS5 but the SF6 version :D
i'm extremely curious how they achieved this as the PS5 controller protocol is very secure with many people trying to crack it, unsuccessfully. but they seem to have figured it out!
That's wild, I have so many brand new in box PS4 controllers I just can't use because of their strict rules on PS5. Even if I don't play fighting games that device alone is gonna be highly sought after.
I wonder if a dualshock 4 would work on ps5 games with this. Could be useful for multiplayer games. Edit: nice just got to that part of the video. Thanks for showing that. Could be useful.
@@frankbauerful i doubt that's hardwired in if it let's you use a dual shock 4 or a third party controller for a fighting game it will work for all games.
@@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu Unfortunately not. As a matter of fact officially licensed PS4 fightsticks do not work with all PS5 games. It is a concession by Sony that fighting games for the PS5 can enable a compatibility mode that supports officially licensed PS4 fightsticks. Brook products have never been officially licensed but they found a way to appear as a licensed fightstick. But this only gives them access to games that support the fightstick compatibility mode.
I just got the PS5 about 2 months ago when I could finally find it at Walmart. I also already owed an 8bitDo Arcade stick for the Nintendo Switch. I just received the Wingman FGC today in the mail, but it won't let my arcade stick work on the PS5. I updated the software and it still won't work. The Wingman continues to blink blue every 2 seconds, but it won't stay solid blue when I plug in my arcade stick. This is really frustrating. Is it possible that Sony keeps updating PS5's as they come out so that unofficial equipment won't work with their newer PS5's?
I got a brook because i normally play on pc/ps4 but i got a few fighting games for switch. I didnt want to rake out 200 for a switch one or cheap out on a lower quality stick. Works amazing! Plug and play! ❤
Is there something like this for the Hori Fighting Commander? (PS4, PS3, PC) I hate the Commander Octa and bought a whole fight stick just for SF6 tournaments but I would love to just stick to my tried and true.\ EDIT: It probably does but it's SOLD OUT ALREADY! Fingers crossed for June.
Sadly I already bought my Hori Fighting Stick Alpha, but at the very least it's useable for both PC and PS4 and PS5 natively, so it feels not that bad.
Does it work wirelessly? I bent my old Hori Tekken 6 wireless stick dongle and it’s been broken ever since. Would love to fire it up again after all these years
Sold out everywhere already! There is definitely high demand for this product.
Hurry! They're doing a Wave 2 right now!
I already bought a PS5 stick.. but will still be picking one of these up when I can.
I’m sure EVO and the release of Street Fighter 6 is only driving demand up and up. I’m hoping to snag one of these and save some money on an older Fight stick.
It's crazy that a product like this has to exist, but props to Brook for stepping up! I'm mainly playing on PC, but my locals will need these for SF6
I think it would be hard for companies to make sure their products supported everything, especially when there are new controllers and technologies being developed constantly. You can't blame playstation for not being able to predict what controller will be used 10 years from the time they create a system.
@@cremonsterno that’s not really a good argument let me explain my point. My understanding is these controllers are just controllers that Sony is aware of most of these controllers are just ps4 controller Sony could easily allow them to be used if they wanted too my fight stick is a ps4 controller on the inside basicly but it doesn’t work on ps5 and I’m pissed
Shame on Sony for not just allowing controllers to work.
I mean it's Sony do you expect anything less?
sony sale all consoles to us at a lost they have to make the money back from games and controlers etc
This is a business if Sony allows all controllers to play on their systems then you won't by there products for the PS5 and future own game consoles sony knows what there doing
@@rickster7373 ?
@@rickster7373 sluuuurp
This would be pretty nice for the 8bitdo Arcade Stick since you can switch to the left and right stick for World Tour mode unlike my PS4 Hori Stick only having a dpad input.
World tour mode lets you use a button on your stick to turn the camera with the stick without changing any settings on you physical arcade stick
The Madcatz TE sticks have this as well. The TE2 for PS3/PS4 does not need this adapter. And as the other reply said, you can hold down HP and use the LP/MP to turn left/right, or LK/MK to look up/down.
As you said most officially licensed PS4 sticks work fine, Its the fightpads where the issue occurs. The PS4 madcatz fightpads don't work and the older fighting commanders do not work either
It also works on wireless controllers. Once you have it paired up via USB you can unplug and be good to go.
I own the xbox one, switch, ps4 and ps2 brook converters.
I can confirm these are an absolute godsend.
Playing cvs2 on my ps2 using my xb360 madcatz stick is 👌
Wait, what?! That's awesome. If I can use my 360 MCTE sticks on the One or Series that would save me a ton of money and give me time to upgrade to newer sticks.
Any input lag? I really like to always use cable rather than wireless for the ultimate lowest lag. 🤷♂
@@sonyx5332 with stick it has to be wired.
Wireless with other controllers does work, BUT I've had issues such occasional lag and disconnects. Keep it wired.
if my controller is for ps3, can i used in my ps5 if i put the converted?
This Wingman looks like a absolute godsend for me someone who is still using my Mad Catz TE-S 360 stick. Well done Brook! You have saved me a lot of money!
I have a Mad Catz TE 360 and a PS3 version, do you think they would work using this device?
@@kungfuk1d697 I have looked at the compatibility list and I think they will work.
I am still using my qanba Q4 raf
I’m not seeing a couple of the controllers listed on this thread, but I see no reason why they wouldn’t have a firmware update that will add compatibility in the near future. Could even send them your specific controller or name of controller for them to be able to work on it, I’d imagine a deadline they set themselves up for would be for combo breaker.
@@kaibaman9651 I just presumed because the list I seen states that the Xbox 360 Mad Catz TE is compatible with this adapter so I would have thought that my Mad Catz TE-S which is basically the exact same stick just in a different case would work with this adapter.
I really hope that it does as I don't really want to buy a new stick for SF6, T8 etc when my good old TE-S Is still working fine and has never missed a beat in all the time I've owned it.
*if Brook read this comment please make sure that the 360 TE-S is also compatible, thank you very much! 🙏
Found their support for some range of controllers a bit patchy; for instance, the Wingman for the Xbox Series X and certain old Mad Catz sticks (e.g. TES+). Don’t assume they support all Mad Catz sticks.
Thinking of using a DIY controller with Brook board (i have ps4 audio wireless board). With the Brook Wingman FGC, I don't have to buy the UFB with PS5 upgrade, so that would be awesome. However, until I finish it, I thought of using the DualSense. With this converter, I could use my good ol' Hori Fighter Commander (the old one without analog stick).
Thank you for pointing this out! I wanted to use my MPress for SF6 and was surprised it didn't work. This is definitely cheaper than what it would cost to upgrade the board in the MPress after talking to Paradise about it
The dualsense 5 hurts my hands so being able to use a dualshock 4 on ps5 is actually huge for me
Back when they made good products.
Very tempted to pick this up for the sake of using the DS4 controller. The dual sense hurts!
It's a good thing every single Xbox one stick still works on series x/s and you aren't forced to buy something extra to make it work 🙃
unfortunately this does you know good if you want to show up to locals, everything is always going to be playstation.
that's the main reason why i buy this game on Series X instead of PS5.
yeah but everyone uses a Playstation not a xbox so who cares
To bad half the fighters are not on Xbox
As a PC player, I think needing a hardware converter for a controller that's literally just 16 or so switches is pretty bonkers. It's designed for the previous iteration of the same product, and connects through USB, how hard can it be?
Blame sony for building the hardware in a specific way to force people to buy new controllers more widely not just around the fgc.
Sony and their bullshit proprietary stuff including controller drivers.
It's intentional. Sony wants to tightly control what peripherals you're allowed to use. It's not that they _can't_ allow you to use a simple box with buttons; it's that they don't want you to.
as a PC player who has recently moved to a city with a local scene this is what has kept me from showing up. I've got a knock off hitbox that my PC sees just fine, but I didn't opt for the one that is compatible with the PS4 which is what everyone uses in the FGC as I didn't forsee moving to a city where it'd matter. I realize investing in a bunch of gaming laptops adds a layer of complication and investment, but boy do I wish the FGC would get off of PS4. Anything can plug into a PC.
@@G0rgar FWIW, there's now a $5 option you can install in your controller to get PS4 compatibility. GP2040-CE, look it up
Glad I got you in my recs again love your content, hope you're well 😊
I've been using a Wingman XB on my Xbox Series X for the past 2 years. I'm able to use my PS4 and PS5 controllers on my Xbox and they even work wirelessly and have rumble. I can also use pretty much any other controller that I want, and the firmware is constantly being updated to add new controllers. These Wingman converters are such amazing tools to give more freedom of controller choice to console players.
does the Wingman XB work from Xbox to PS5?
@@bbysak The XB only works on Xbox. But it lets you use PS5 and PS4 controllers on Xbox.
Do you know if any converters or the Brook works for using a hit box on an Xbox series
Just pre-ordered this lol. Not worth spending another $200 for a ps5 stick this will do.
I'm sort of regretting buying my Qanba obsidian II. I Wanted a native ps5 stick for all manner of ps5 games so I bought the Obsidian but really I prefer my Qanba dragon. It's all modded and nice and just needed this adapter to be usable on ps5 games on my PS5. Sigh.
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@@stevenross-watt8640 isn't the dragon ps5 compatible since it's a officially licensed product ?
@@DjGo99 when you plug it in and try and play a ps5 game like the new ninja turtles game I believe it just says it's not a ps5 controller and to plug one in. It may be different when playing fighting games but I want a stick that plays all games as arcade sticks are fun for all types of game (shoot em ups, beat em ups etc).
@Steven Ross-watt I'm using my Qanba Obsidian in SF6 no problem
Thank you for making this video, I been asking about this in twitch chat and people act like they don’t have a clue. Thanks so much man!!
As a custom stick maker, Brook is unrivaled.
I guess this will be available in my area around 2 to 3 months from now. I'm pretty sure this should work also on any direct input controllers or like controllers made in using pi pico rp2040.
Just pre-ordered a Wingman FGC. Once I get it, I'll test it out with the Pico Fighting Board to see how it handles GP2040-CE firmware.
@@domaug early tests have shown that they work with Brook adapters
Man they got this thing out kinda late… some people be freakin out right now cuz they need one of these for the open beta in 2 days! Thankfully my Victrix is arriving just in time this week…
PS5 Explanation:
- DualShock 4 and aftermarket pads don't work for PS5 games because Sony wants people to experience DualSense features (haptic feedback and adaptive triggers).
- Legacy Support on PS5: It's based off Developers to include legacy support for specific genres of PS5 games. Most PS5 fighters should support all officially licensed PS4 arcade sticks just like PS5 racing sims should support officially licensed PS4 steering wheels and flight sims with flight sticks/HOTAS.
- Brook Wingman Converters: Brook's flagship converters that converts the market's most popular inputs, Dinput and Xinput. Almost all USB based peripherals use either signal. Wingman series has replaces their single compatible Super Converter series.
- Brook Wingman, Fusion and UP5 addon all do the same thing, they emulate the PS4 legacy support feature meaning that you can only use these items for PS5 fighting games.
- Razer Raion is the only known PS4 controller/pad that is recognized under the legacy support for some unknown reason. Great for padhacks (stripping down a controller to it's PCB) and pad players.
I've been using my salvaged Fighting Edge (RAP4 PCB) since I got my PS5, I just got myself a new fight stick and replacing the RP2040 Pico Pi PCB with a padhacked DualSense PCB (my launch PS5 controller that has left analog drift and PS button doesn't work like 98% of the time).
I've played on the same Qanba Q2 Glow stick since 2013 (Xbox360/PC), and used a USB Brook convertor for several years to use it on PS4. Will be playing SF6 on PC so no convertor required anymore (Gotta love PC). Anyway definitely recommend brook convertors.
Already pre-ordered for my hitbox. Nice!
Want to see some in depth number Stat testing for input lag if there is any from the Wingman.
yeah i'm curious about this too
Ditto. This is the most important thing to find out and I'm a little disappointed there was no input lag testing done in this video. I used a brooks converter before and there was definitely noticeable input lag. (360 -> PS4 conversion.)
@@AngelicRequiemX you really need the appropriate equipment to lag test, so it's probably good Nihongo didn't bother. Too many youtubers try less accurate tests like just hitting two buttons at once or slowing a camera, and it's not worth it imo when you are concerned with milliseconds. The usual fgc data scientists will put this converter thru the paces to help people out.
I use the wingman for xbox and its great. I love not having to worry about controllers! I don’t know how the ps5 version works but can you disconnect ps3/4 controllers after the pair and use them wirelessly?
Thanks! Bought one, hoping it will work with my PS3 stick
Gonna order this simply to use ds4 on ps5 games. Haven't got a fight stick yet but im interested in a mayflash f300 elite as i want it for PlayStation and switch, this will pair nicely with it i reckon.
Just remoteplay, then connect any controller to your remoteplay device. I use Deck+Chiaki
I actually have a PS5 compatible SnackBox Micro but I recently bought a used SFIV era TE stick (the ones from 2009). It was in great condition and I could not resist. I regretted selling mine and I still want a regular stick around because I play SFIV in the arcades and don't want to get used to leverless for that game, so if I play IV at home I play on stick. This is such an awesome dongle, crazy that I can use a 2009 Xbox 360 stick on a PS5. Love the OG TE style.
Does this version of the wingman help with improving input delay? I’m using a PS5 victrix pro FS and was wondering if using one of these would be redundant or would actually improve the experience playing on PS5 (and PC if I choose to for other fighting games).
Isn't vitrix pro PS5 certified anyway?
I have the brooks X1 wingman for xbox, my Madcatz TE xbo 360 works like a champ on the xsx
This adapter is amazing! I was able to resurrect my Hori FS3 (which has been in the cupboard since my PS3 broke years ago) and now I can play any fighting game on the PS5 with no problem. Thanks for the tip 👍
I just got into box controllers. thank goodness I got a ps5 upgraded board for mine but I think I'm gonna grab one of these to carry around just in case
If you are more tech savy, the same company makes a Universal Board for your arcade stick. If it plays games and has a USB, you can set your stick up to play on it. Its as simply as holding as button when you put it in to switch to the different profiles for consoles.
The UFB isn't compatible with the PS5. The UFB-UP5 upgrade only has the stick look like a legacy PS4 controller on a PS5.
UFB Fusion has compatibility with the PS5, but only certain games.
@@KetsubanSolo Wow, you're right. If I plugged my stick into a PS5 right now, it can only play PS4 games for some reason. Another reason to not get a PS5, its just a PC anyway. I got one of those.
Thanks for explaing what that white controller is that came along with my ps5. I had no idea what it was until you explained it.
How universal is it? I have an 8bitdo Arcade stick that I use on my PC. I'd love to use it on PS5 if this adapter will do it.
I'm hoping this will work for the qanba q1. That's been my go to controller since ps3. Really didn't want to drop a lot just to play sf6 casually.
Bro I just check today.. No bueno😭😭
I'm using my home made Zero Pi controller with modded Happ buttons on Street Fighter 6. It works on PC, though I would need an adapter for PS4 since my bro wants a PS4 Pro for Street Fighter 6.
Edit: Just got a PS5. Now need an adapter to use PS3 or Switch controllers on PS5.
I want to get a mixbox, but finding one with PS5 compatibility is not only difficult, but EXPENSIVE. Thanks to Brook, now I know there's an option that will save me a TON of cash. And @NihongoGamer, thank you SO MUCH for your videos. You've done so much for not only me, but gamers everywhere with your videos. I don't know if you hear this enough, but you are very appreciated and admired. Cheers!
good review....
but you didn't remove a doubt from me:
this controller i could use it to play (AL PC)
with quake\serious sam and similar?
I mean, I could move the character with the stick,
and at the same time manage viewfinder \ weapon change and shooting with the MOUSE?
Thank you
Very interesting ! Perhaps you could compare this WINGMAN with a MAYFLASH MAGIC-S Ultimate ?
I have the ultimate and it does the same but doesn't have that compatiblity with many USB controllers but can't say the same for this one since it hasn't been fully tested
Will be using the fighting edge but want to get one for my other sticks
Perfect - I just ordered that device, im excited ;)
Can you use a whole PS4 controller? I saw somewhere only the dpad works? Do the thumbsticks or their clicks work?
Thanks for this video! Now I'll be able to use my Mix Box on Street Fighter 6!
I had a Hori Real Arcade Pro N Hayabusa that would disconnect every 5 min. I recently switched to the Hori Arcade Alpha and now have 0 issues.
@NihongoGamer I have a few 360/PS3/PC sticks that worked for me over the past few generations. With the help of Brook’s PS3 to PS4 and 360 to XB1 adapters, I’ve been able to avoid buying another pricey stick. What was cool is that *_some_* PS4 games detected a “Legacy” controller and would allow a PS3 stick to work with the game without an adapter(even when playing that PS4 game on a PS5). What was is cool about the XB1 adapter is that it also works for series X. Unfortunately that is not the case with my PS5.
Will this new PS5 adapter work with PS3 sticks? What if you daisy chain a PS3 to PS4 adapter to this new PS5 one? Again, I’m just trying to avoid buying another expensive fight stick. I’d rather buy an adapter and a bunch of games then waste more money on another fight stick🤷🏻♂️
I know this is months late, but Brook put out a list of compatible sticks with the Fusion adapter and it includes basically every single licensed stick for 360 and PS3. So yes, it should work if your stick is Mad Catz/Eightarc/Qanba/Hori and even the Sega Virtua Stick is compatible.
@@Doyoulike4 thanks for the reply. I found out pretty quickly my stick would work with this adapter. Unfortunately, I was a bit disappointed that for some weird reason the adapter only works with fighting games (unlike the Xbox one adapter which works with all Xbox 1 & Series consoles and all games). Not sure how that’s even possible, but I decided to hold off on getting one. Hopefully an adapter that’ll work with all PS5 games will become available.
@@wolfgangpuff7030 Yeah so sony in their infinite wisdom decided to make legacy support only be required for fighting games, whereas microsoft uses the same controller code for xbone and series so a xbox one controller works for all series, but for sony ps4 stuff only works for fighting games. Even the Brook UP5/UFB Fusion is hooking onto the ps4 legacy support, not actual ps5 compatibility.
Damn I've been waiting for so long for an adapter like that that i decided to buy an official ps4 stick aswell
Funny that you made this about a Brook Wingman. I just grabbed the XB2 because we're in the middle of moving and I wanted to bring a small console so I grabbed my Xbox Series S. I dislike Xbox controllers so I got the XB2 so I can use my PS5 controller.
Great video! I have a PC only Fightbox B1 Mini. Can I connect this controller on a PS5 using this adapter?
Thanks for the video. I'm hoping to get my HORI SF6 working along side my xbox ELite controller for World Tour mode. Still working on it. No luck so far.
im more interested on your fight pads. any links where to find it? thanks..
I'm using the xbox wingman XB2, it's great.
6:25 You can use the DualShock 4 wireless too
Wait months for this to be in stock or just buy a new stick. Yeah I’m ordering a new stick lol. But I do love brook products. Been using one for years but I can’t wait months.
(Tries to use perfectly fine controller)
PS5: ah hell nah
(plugs in random $20 flash drive)
PS5: "Perhaps I treated you too harshly"
What’s the input lag like when using one of these adapters versus getting my Hitbox modded?
What good is this adapter if its NOT AVAILABLE ANYWHERE?????!?;??????????
Nice video! This is works on 8bitdo pro controller 2?
If you plug in an Xbox controller using that adapter will it work?
Brook also makes an adapter so you can use PS3 or PS4 controller wireless on PS2 and they work great.
Great video! Im going buy one, Nihong do you know if ps3 generation madcatz arcade stick work with the wingman?
I ordered the official SF6 Hori stick even though I still have my SFV stick and a FightBox, LETS GOOOO
Still waiting on an all-purpose Brook Wingman PS5 adapter like what's on offer for Series X and Switch on down, but I've gotten plenty of use for my other adapters from them and yeah, they're quality.
I bought a snack box micro xl 2023 version cause it solves a lot of problems I have with my hitbox and it’s ps5 compatible
Ive been using Brook XE for my arcade stick and fight pad which are for xbox. Will the FGC convert those over to ps5 like it did for ps4?
Thank you for the video. I want to play on my DualShock 4, I will pick this up!
Thanks for the video, really helpful. How's about input lag? What do you think?
I don't even have a PS5 yet and I want one of these now! You could use it for all kinds of purposes. Really great video! 👍🎈
I Tested it with my PS3 FightPad controller and it works
Thank you so much, got my preorder in because of your video. Just came in now for the sf6 beta. Dude you rock.
Brook is the GOAT. I have a collection of their adapters
Nothing has changed. It’s the same situation as before. Officially licensed PS4/PS5 controllers and arcade sticks work fine. That includes Victrix, Madcatz, Hori and Qanba sticks. However custom sticks and unlicensed 3rd party sticks like Etokki won’t work. There was also an issue using Brook PCBs as they weren’t officially licensed. To remedy this first Brook released an adapter that plugged directly into the PCB that added PS5 support and now they have PCBs that offer native PS5 support. So unfortunately this is nothing new.
Bullshit! So, why the hell not I can't use my Hori Fight Commander gamepad controller for Guilty Gear Strive PS5 version. And that controller is officially licensed by PlayStation.
What’s your opinion for Hori fight stick?
My quanba drone worked perfectly fine I haven tried my quanba crystal but I hope it works
I'm getting 2 of these :) One for my PS3 Madcatz Fightstick TE and the other for my 360 Madcatz Fightstick PRO.
I'm still getting the Hori Fighting Stick OCTA for PS5 but the SF6 version :D
i'm extremely curious how they achieved this as the PS5 controller protocol is very secure with many people trying to crack it, unsuccessfully. but they seem to have figured it out!
Still working or sony blocked this by patch?
That's wild, I have so many brand new in box PS4 controllers I just can't use because of their strict rules on PS5. Even if I don't play fighting games that device alone is gonna be highly sought after.
Can the wingman be updated so it isn’t made unusable by ps5 updates?
I wonder if a dualshock 4 would work on ps5 games with this. Could be useful for multiplayer games.
Edit: nice just got to that part of the video. Thanks for showing that. Could be useful.
FIGHTING GAMES only! The adapter will not allow you to play other types of games with legacy controllers.
@@frankbauerful i doubt that's hardwired in if it let's you use a dual shock 4 or a third party controller for a fighting game it will work for all games.
@@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu Unfortunately not. As a matter of fact officially licensed PS4 fightsticks do not work with all PS5 games. It is a concession by Sony that fighting games for the PS5 can enable a compatibility mode that supports officially licensed PS4 fightsticks. Brook products have never been officially licensed but they found a way to appear as a licensed fightstick. But this only gives them access to games that support the fightstick compatibility mode.
I just got the PS5 about 2 months ago when I could finally find it at Walmart. I also already owed an 8bitDo Arcade stick for the Nintendo Switch. I just received the Wingman FGC today in the mail, but it won't let my arcade stick work on the PS5. I updated the software and it still won't work. The Wingman continues to blink blue every 2 seconds, but it won't stay solid blue when I plug in my arcade stick. This is really frustrating. Is it possible that Sony keeps updating PS5's as they come out so that unofficial equipment won't work with their newer PS5's?
Did you ever get the 8bitdo stick to work?
Finally Brook came to rescue the FGC. Sony is being difficult for no reason.
I got a brook because i normally play on pc/ps4 but i got a few fighting games for switch. I didnt want to rake out 200 for a switch one or cheap out on a lower quality stick. Works amazing! Plug and play! ❤
Do PS3 sticks work with this?
Well now… this would’ve been useful if I didn’t already buy one…
Thanks man! You always answer questions I haven’t asked yet. Totally going to preorder this 🤓
I shoulda just bought it on pc. i love having to spend 60 on the game and then 60 MORE TO GET MY STICK TO WORK AGAIN :(
Would this adapter also make a ps5 pad work on ps4 ? Os does it only work one way
I have a PS3 Qanba Glow that I wad thinkin of replacing to play tekken 8 but no need! This feels like it's a "buy now before they ban it" type thing
Didn't even fully watch the video and I already clicked the "buy" button xD
Is there something like this for the Hori Fighting Commander? (PS4, PS3, PC) I hate the Commander Octa and bought a whole fight stick just for SF6 tournaments but I would love to just stick to my tried and true.\
EDIT: It probably does but it's SOLD OUT ALREADY! Fingers crossed for June.
I have a mayflash F300, should that USB work? 😮
Sadly I already bought my Hori Fighting Stick Alpha, but at the very least it's useable for both PC and PS4 and PS5 natively, so it feels not that bad.
That laugh when he got the ps4 controller to work was gold.
Does it work wirelessly? I bent my old Hori Tekken 6 wireless stick dongle and it’s been broken ever since. Would love to fire it up again after all these years
Might be a dumb question, but will your Dualshock 4 charge through the Wingman FGC?
Hi. Does it works with official hitbox ?
Just out of curiosity. Since this works so well. Do Xbox controllers work?