One of These $71K Top Trim Trucks is a No-Brainer Buy: Is It the New Ford F-150 Hybrid or Ram 1500?
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The active park seems like more work than actually parking.
Until you clip another vehicle with your bumper while doing it manually.
If the truck has to move forward after it has started reversing into a space, something wasn't set up correctly.
looks like a good way to get people honking horns while you take over a minute to do a simple parking maneuver
over 1 min to park for both even though both have surround view cameras. I can park it way faster manually
@@Furious321
Not really.
Longer 4 door trucks can't turn that sharp and require a pull ahead.
Doesn't matter if it's the computer or a driver.
He started the test with the truck perpendicular to the open spot.
A driver would have already angled the truck to the left while moving forward before going into reverse.
7:10 Most people in my neck of the woods with $70k trucks use them for their business and afford it through the write off.
Not a good investment for the average person. That's a lot of money!!
@@bjhutchings9 WRITE. OFF.
Can’t write off the whole truck . Still need to make the monthly payment. But yes around me I see a lot of “work trucks” that are high trim levels.
@@chachifeere you write of what you payed that year unless you pay it in a year witch is possible
70k should buy a dually that you can use for commercial purposes. 70k on a half ton is beyond stupid.
The best bargain option on the Ford is the $750 for the 7.2 kw generator that you could use to power your house during a power outage assuming you are set up for that. You can pay more than that for a similar power portable emergency generator and that portable generator noisier.
@Jonathan Spier The truck generator will absolutely power the essentials of your house. Without a slow start system it won’t run the AC, but 7000+ watts is more than enough to run computers, TVs, and almost everything else if you have natural gas for your furnace and oven. We have everyone home and the furnace fan is running for air circulation, computers are going, and our current consumption is 2500 Watts. The PB would have no trouble.
If you have all electric appliances, you may run into issues. The truck could run many of them at normal running draw, but that surge draw on electric dryers and that might overdo it. But if you just needed a couple days of power in an emergency and can do without running your dryer or AC, the truck is plenty.
Word...my power was shut off for weeks last year due to the failure of PGE to provide reliable power, I use my RV diesel generator, this would be a better option for sure, and I have 2 honda portables I use,
@Jonathan Spier Honda’s inverters at that power $1500. They can be left at the site but need a gas can too. Left at site without protect, gone in 60seconds😭
For the same price as that f150 you can get a midrange f250 with more capability and still have money left over for a 7+kw Honda generator.
@Jonathan Spier Reaching a bit, ain't ya? People have already demonstrated the truck powering homes in Texas during the outages.
The payload on the Ram is only 1000 lbs. With 4 people in the cab it doesn’t leave very much to haul in the bed.
The ram boxes put a big dent in the payload, but having them I can't imagine going back to a regular bed.
It’s 1200 to 2300 pounds depending on the engine and level of trim you get the truck in. If you plan on hauling more then 1200 pounds use a trailer.
Me and my 3 boys would overload the Ram.
@@Duddey9 1200? The one on the video is 1000.
@@WaspMedia3D The payload all depends on the trim level of the truck as well as what power train it has. www.mattblatt.com/blogs/3086/trucks/ram-1500-payload-towing-capacity/
The price point should've gone to the ford. Just the fact that you have that onboard generator. Pays for itself. Generators alone are not cheap and the fact that you dont have haul one around. Is a big plus and yes you can power your home with the generator. During the winter freeze here in texas. Ford owners ran their homes for up to 3 days with the generator. Fridge, TV, fans lights and all.
Still needs gasoline to run. Gas is not free.
Great test, except you should have split the point on the price.. $100 isn’t enough to warrant a stage win.
Yes especially they were basing it off value. When the Ford is over performing The Ram in performance fuel economy and towing and loses out on value over $100? The scoring was designed to come out as a tie
@@howiekearney I agree somewhat but also 99% of these trucks will never tow near max, most don't care about fuel economy and many won't even use them as a truck (ram limited and I never use the bed or tow besides jet skis i just like trucks) so alot is simply objective I chose the ram due to the reclining rear seats and ac rear seats not offered in the Ford as I do alot of trips with friends to the beach
@@russellf4285 personally I think the ram has the nicer appearance and interior. I'd rather they rate those and score a point for RAM then the stupid$100 difference in price and parking. Don't you agree?
@@howiekearney i do agree and maybe throw a point the rams way for the air suspension because it's ride is great
@@russellf4285 exactly they didn't even mention it did they? Mind you I think they both have a great ride.
I like both trucks, but the power, payload/towing, generator etc. Have me sold. Love the generator. Being able to use power tools in the middle of a field of what not would be nice.
I love my RAM but gotta hand it to Ford on this one.
As much as I love me some rams/dodges, ford offers more payload/towing and $71k seems more justifiable with it's full hybrid system. They're both awesome trucks that I'll never be able to afford. :)
They made a mistake in the towing. Ram's eTorque V8 can tow 12,750 lbs.
@@newrides it's very possible, honestly. It all depends on if it has 3.92 or 3.21 rear gears. Unfortunately 3.21s drop the tow rating quite a bit
I'm 27 seconds into the video and I can already tell you I'll take the Ford all day, every day, and twice on Sunday. I'm not biased at all
lol, when someone qualifies their comment with "I'm not.....", it always means they are.
Lol of all the viewers you got just 18 likes, clearly the other 1000 people don't agree
The "Killer Feature" that nails it for FORD F-150 being the winner is the 7200 Watt onboard generator option!
In Texas, during that Winter 2021 severe cold snap, Ford made this truck available for locals to power their households and 7200 watts FULL LOAD for between 24 hours to 36 hours per fuel up can EASILY power the average U.S. household of Fridge/Freezer, Microwave, TV, Desktop Computer Systems, laptops, routers, Satellite TV system, phones, lights and 150 watt space heater!
That feature alone when bought with an ELECTRICAL SHUNT CIRCUIT BOX allows you to SAFELY reroute the truck power BACK INTO your home during any power outages so that your truck becomes an AWESOME home generator!
That one feature of 7200 Watt on-board quiet generator option alone makes the Ford F-150 the CLEAR WINNER in my opinion!
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For those of you not familiar with the capabilities of this 7200 watt power supply option, one of my Northern Canada friends went up to his northern Alberta and Northern British Columbia winter lake/river ice fishing expedition area for almost THREE FULL MONTHS with one of the first F-150's with the 7200 watt power option that came to Canada!
He bought himself an in-bed fuel tank (250 litres - 65 gallons) that allowed him to run his space heater, microwave, 55 inch flatscreen 4K TV, x-Box gaming system, Satellite Internet/TV system, portable fridge/cooler, his laptop and phones and a long-range shortwave/VHF radio for 4 to 6+ hours per day for WEEKS ON END! He only had to go into town for a fill-up TWICE.
Many modern appliances are VERY efficient so that 7200 watts will last a LOOOOONG TIME if you use them for between 4 to 6 hours per day !
He stayed in his -40 Celcius and colder insulated tent for three whole months with it's fancy inflatable bed, couch and full portable country kitchen by merely changing the river or lake he went ice fishing on. That Ford F-150 7200 watt generator option kept him safe and sound away from the crazy Covid pandemic world all that time without a hiccup even in the coldest North Canadian Winter! He enjoyed all of life's modern comforts FOR THREE MONTHS in the middle of winter and merely had to get some local fuel and food TWICE during that entire time period! My friend and his faithful companion dog both looked very well-rested, well-fed and very comfortable when they finally did come back to the big city after those three months!
For Armageddon and the Zombie Apocolypse, that F-150 is a REAL good bargain to keep yourself comfortable in times of crisis!
Again, I ALSO SUGGEST buying a SAFE TRUCK-TO-HOUSE electrical SHUNT circuit box and an extra 250 litre in-truck-bed fuel box to allow you the range and power supply option to last WEEKS at a time if you get the most power-efficient appliances and personal electronics!
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I wish I was part of this crew. Not sure if you guys have more fun testing the vehicles or trolling one another. 😂
That applies to the whole TFL portfolio. 😎
I don't remember my high school guidance counselor bringing this up as a career destination. 🤣🤣
This is what makes this channel great!
That was very generous to call that a tie lol
Stops the fanboi brand types from unsubscribing.
Guys, you guys are to be congratulated, I'm a big fan of the channel .. I love truck drivers, my favorite is the f150 raptor.
As a Brazilian we do not have all large trucks in our market, only RAM ...
I lived in the USA for 01 year and I miss these giants ...
Yes, but you have lots and lots of Fuscas! 👌
As an American, I love American trucks but wish we had more small vehicles on the market personally. Parking lots are packed enough as it is and a crew cab truck is hard to park and especially un-park in tight parking lots. Especially Walmart.
I just bought a 2021 Ram 1500 LongHorn. The same color but with the Black and Saddle interior.
Nice man!!
Best looking interior. Love the Black and saddle Longhorn
Congratulations!
You mean the "Light Mountain Brown" color?
Congrats. You will love it 👍
I know it's a different package for more towing on the ram just can't wrap my head around a 71k truck being able to tow as much as a Colorado
Its not a package its simply a $99 option for the 3.92 gears which wouldve made towing capacity over 10,000. Id still rather tow 7000 lbs in a 1500 than a colorado lol
@@The_Draque- I'd seriously worry about towing 6k in most half tons. It isn't the tow weight, it's the hitch weight.
Consider a 7k trailer probably has about 1000-1200 on the tongue to be safe for sway. Then add passengers, normal gear you have under the seats, gear you are taking for that trip and everything else. You could easily be several hundred pounds over weight which makes trailers act funky. Almost no way to be within weight limits on even the beefiest half ton. Not to mention stopping is severely compromised.
The ram boxes really effect towing capacity numbers. But as an owner of them I wouldn't go back
I have a 16 1500 with the 3.92s and air ride and it will pull around 12,500.
@@Duddey9 - again it isn't the TOW rating that is a problem. It's the amount you can tow, it's PAYLOAD. If you had a properly loaded 12.5k trailer hooked up your truck the tongue should be, at a bare minimum, 1250 lbs (10%) Most trailers, especially rv's, are set up to have about 13-15%, or up to 1875 lbs in your case on the tongue. Don't forget air bags do NOTHING to add to your ability to tow heavy except return the truck to level which helps with headlights and a tiny bit with nose dive under heavy braking.
Now add your weight, your significant other and kids if applicable, all gear like a generator, tie downs, etc, add gas (yes gas as the payloads are calculated using dry weight), add everything in your glove box, under the seats, etc. Pretty easily to get 600lbs there alone. Now your total payload is about 2475. I'll bet your truck is rated at no more than 1200lbs so you're over DOUBLE what you should be.
Most half tons that have high tow ratings are maxed out at way under that number in the real world.
But continue to think you can tow that much if you want but don't cry if you get into trouble in high winds, something breaks or you have to stop suddenly and you can't.
I have a 1 ton ram diesel srw and I wouldn't tow much more than 14k without major concerns.
Great video! A little irked that a $100 MSRP price difference got the RAM a point when other items like towing/payload or MPG which are way bigger long term issues than $100 were also only worth a point. If you got the 3.92 rear on the RAM to make it more comparable, I suspect that would bridge $100 easy.
I doubt these trim levels get worked that hard lol
@@jeepindave5464 Quite a few contractors, loggers, farmers and ranchers here, have top-tier trucks and beat the shit out of them.
@@prorider6997 yeah ive seen that, but i still think that's the exception and not the norm. And that's usually more the HD trucks.
I agree with the above that $100 MSRP difference hardly seems worth issuing a point over when the other categories are much more important. I can't get over how slow the RAM was in the 0-60 test and how small the payload is (obv that's trim/option specific so could be improved). It may not be haulin' hay, but I do think a lot of these top-tier trucks are getting a workout hauling boats, campers, and other toys. As spec'd, those RAM numbers would be a non-starter for me--no way I could get my family, dogs, camping supplies and the tongue weight of my boat down anywhere close to 1000 pounds.
Yup, should have been a tie...or at least compare what options and all the features you get for the price....best bang for your buck...1 point for $100 sounds like their trying to keep FCA/RAM happy lol
When it comes to diesels, I'm a Cummins guy! However, if I had to downgrade to a half ton, I'd get a Ford! They have better engine choices and trims!
Love them both but would get the Ford, love that 26 mpg and the reclining seats!.. a truck that ‘parks better on it’s own’ is a ridiculous selling point.. if you can’t reverse a truck you shouldn’t be driving one.. technology these days is more and more just catering to people’s laziness.. great video as always, cheers guys...
Ford gets worse mileage if it’s used as a truck.. lol
@@samsonreynolds3728 so does every truck dumb point
70k , heck, I got my 2021 F350 Drw Lariat Ultimate for 72k
Half tons are ridiculous now. Paid 35k for a 2020 ram 1500 big horn value back in September of 2020. Brand spanking new and my buddy got a 2021 ram 2500 tradesman that has basically all I have on my big horn value minus the cloth seats for 39k. It has the 6.4 hemi so no diesel but I’d rather gone with the gas 2500 over my half ton. I’m a die hard Ford man and would take a f350 or 250 over a ram 2500 or 3500 any day because it’s always been my dream but the Fords are 10-15 grand more and I’m not knocking that 6.7 power stroke but I’ve heard of it being a nightmare sometimes. The 6.7 Cummins is a tried and tested and true engine that’s been out since 07. But I’ve gotta agree with you 71k for a platinum half ton vs a lariat f350 for 72k. I’d rather have the lariat. Same way for the dodge. A long horn 1500 just like they have in the video here in Kentucky is 69 grand and you can get a long horn 2500 for 70. I’d rather get the 2500.
It's crazy how much the ram box reduces payload. I know on power wagons it take almost 400 off your already low payload
Air suspension!
Roman may be “electrified” vs Andre being “E-torquified”, BBUUTT, Andre is electrified in real life!! Haha.
I admit I have a 2021 F150, FX4, Lariat , Sport, Hybrid 7.2 kw and I love the truck! It’s my 2nd one as the first was totalled when a texting driver ran a red light. I was unhurt except for being a bit stiff for a few days (and that’s while recovering from back surgery!). Th truck rolled over on it’s roof. There was a fibreglass canopy on back as well. My MSRPin CANADIAN dollars was $83,500. I paid less than $80,000 for it, mostly because of a 30 year friendship with the owner of the dealership.
The acceleration is just as it appears here, fast! Faster than my 2019 Raptor SuperCab this truck replaces. I bought an 8,000 lb (loaded up) travel trailer. Said I would never tow that much weight with a 1/2 ton many times on these TH-cam channels. Turns out I was wrong. Towing, stopping, crosswinds,,,, all very acceptable. The power is significant and not as hard on fuel as I thought, depending on the wind and hills. I live in the mountains in Alberta, Canada. I owned a Ram in the early 80s, and one in 2020 (1500 Classic Express). Two very similar outcomes. I will probably wait another 40 ish years before I buy another. My experience only. I have friends that swear by their Rams. I only swore ABOUT my Ram!! Haha. I backwoods camp so I love the 7.2 kw. It runs everything in my trailer. As a generator it’s so much quieter than the “quiet” smaller gas generators. If it starts up at night it may wake you, I sleep through it mostly. You are not going out in the middle of the night to fuel up when winter camping. I have owned one since mid January 2020.
Either truck is very nice to drive. At 22 mpg the Ram is doing very well also!! I only just think the interior of the F150 favours comparably to the Ram. Both are very nice now but different enough to be affected by bias or personal needs/preferences. I would be very happy with either interior.
Both trucks are very expensive and luxurious. The price is high when. First seen, but the content and technology is impressive as well. Not like 20 years ago when the Lariat was the top of the heap for Ford and the Laramie was for Ram!! Hahaha.
Objective, entertaining, and fun. The absolute best car channel on TH-cam! Spasibo!
Truck channel and reviews since they do realistic real-world testing anyway. I like Donut Media best when it comes to car culture.
Objective??? Giving a point for value to the RAM because it's 100 dollars cheaper with worse fuel economy, performance and towing hardly seems objective to me. Entertaining yes, but the comparison was designed to come up with a tie. Nothing objective about it.
Not an Apples to apples but ultimately brand loyalists will go with their favorite. Both are great trucks
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Would like to see them get the most basic HD work trucks you can get from big 3 and do comparisons.
They did when the Ford 7.3 came out. They used Gas 3/4 tons. 7.3 Ford came out on top, the 6.6 Gas came 2nd but not far behind, and Ram with 6.4 came third. The older 6.0 Vortec beat the 6.4 on the Ike as well. This was their results.
I’d guess they don’t test basic trucks as the majority of folks are looking for some upscale. Where would they start with motors and transmissions? Naturally aspirated 6 cylinder and 6 speed transmission? Too many variables. Although, I personally can’t afford the most upscale vehicle model either…
@@kenwelsh4189 I think work trucks are hard to find right now too.
@@paulmadkow9143 I don’t disagree. Trucks of any type are hard to get at the moment. Ford has thousands of trucks sitting on lots waiting for chips at the moment. Prices of used trucks are very close to new sales prices. Soon enough they will break loose.
1:33 The problem is, one (not in all cases, but in most cases) doesn't have $71k in one's pocket. One will rely on the bank loaning $71k.
And if you have good credit, like me, you get 0% financing, which means you pay nothing for the loan.
@@daveyjones777 You also need to factor in the interest you'd make by investing that $71k instead of paying cash. You can easily make 3%/yr. with very little risk.
Does decibel check perfect time to buckle your seat belt i the sound decibel were the same
One of the top 3 feature in the Ford should have been the self driving feature coming out in the fall.
Love the videos Tfl
71K, unbelievable! Great video!
Drone footage is a nice add guys, looks professional
Sure the Fords bests the Ram in towing, 0-60, and fuel economy. That would change a bit if the Ram you tested had the 3.92 axle ratio (a mere $95 option). But, you just cant deny that everything about that Ram is better looking and more premium feeling.
Love to see this review, I recognize the 0-60 and parking lot they used from when they first started doing reviews
Very well done video, in the end it seemed like you were trying to speed it up and I didn't care for that but very well done video guys!!!
Lol… one of the best, objective and funniest reviews…. Keep it up @TFL 👍👍👍 from 🇨🇦🇨🇦
No objectivity here. It was designed to be a tie. Let's see the Ford scoring on best performance best fuel economy and Best towing is weighed the same as the ram scoring on $100 cheaper and an auto park feature based off one sample that no one is likely to even use.
@@howiekearney hmm 🤔 actually now that u have said it, u seem to be correct.
Warranty needs to increase as price increases. To many stupid gadgets, especially after covid era build- things will be breaking and poorly built
Yes since they are designed to have a 150k mile life span, it would be nice to get a 5/150 powertrain warranty. Keep the bean counters in check as well, but the cost of a truck would probably increase another 25k. I saw the new f150 master cylinder is a 2000 dollar repair job.
@@normcheers1726 yeah and people don’t think about things like that after purchasing a couple vehicles that comes into play
@@christopherbrown1391 my 2020 powerstroke has a 7yr/170km warranty(7yr/105k miles) could have gone to 250km(155k miles) for 2k more. Best part is only thing I have to pay for is tires. EVERYTHING ELSE IS COVERED.
@Jonathan Spier Nowadays with enough care you can get a normal everyday driver up to 300-400k miles before the thing finally gives out. I'm pretty sure there are a few times that someone was able to get a car up to 500k miles before it finally died out. Meanwhile, diesel semi-trucks can run for about 1 million miles, though they are typically meant to last 250k miles shorter than that at 750k miles. I'd like to see an electric semi last for 1 million miles with just occasional servicing, especially in a cold climate.
@@jnk26 huh? Brakes are covered?
The guys forgot a lot of key features: The Ford F150 Platinum also comes with: 1) Active Drive Assist 2) Over the air updates 3) Messaging Seats 4) A more advanced, 5 camera system including truck bed cam | The Ram's key feature over the F150 is the air suspension .
What are messaging seats?
@@XploreAz they have air bags in the seat that inflate and deflate to give a massage. It helps on long road trips to help get blood moving in your legs and backw
@@brysonrodden5112 Yeah and it's actually is a lot nicer to have than you would think. Once you have them it's difficult to go back.
@@brysonrodden5112 I know. I was just messing with you because you said “messaging” seats, not “massaging” seats.
@@XploreAz Spelling Police
As a long time gm truck owner I went to ram but I do like the hybrid ford. As an owner of a hybrid car in the past they are a great option.
The F150 wins on the power of the engine alone
And almost everything else related to using it as a truck as well
Anyone else notice "I think you're cool" on the ford instrument cluster
That is the song playing on the radio.....
The build quality and R&D that goes into Ford is apple to oranges compared to Ram. If a Ranger has more payload than a Ram and Sierra 1500,that says a lot.
Absolutely love the videos. The only thing that I wish wasn't such a disadvantage for naturally aspirated engines is being a mile above sea level! Obviously TFL can't control that but it would be cool to see the difference without the disadvantage.
That's real world testing for ya
Well, using that analogy the f150 should be hampered with a 6 cylinder vs a big ole V8 hemi. Even on lower elevation the hemi would have been lucky to pick up a second on the 0-60. It’s pretty but they gave it way way too much credit. TFL is doing all they can to boost Ram/Fiat reputation. Ram can’t get better if they give it credit for not doing enough. A pretty dash and big screen ain’t enough.
Nice job! Thanks!
will be fun to see how high these go now that we are in the world of inflation. 6 figure trucks here we come!
In two years $70k is going to be price of base truck.
A rise in prices was coming reguardless. I was wondering how long Ford and Ram would continue to give us S-Class luxury and technology for C-class prices.
Its already happened. Ram has slashed all incentives and rebates on Rams. So Rams are now 4k-6k more expensive than a few weeks ago
@@The_Draque there is a trick with the “incentives and cash back” deals. They actually boost your interest rates. It’s actually a dealer scam. The only folks who benefit from it are those who have a 800+ score because they’re locked in the lowest rate possible. I had a 1.9% rate and when they added the incentives I somehow jumped to a 4.9% still trying to figure out how that works.
@@Si7encer_ i always just refinance with a credit union after a few months to get a really good rate
Ram more points because the f150 was like $200 more? I’ll pay the $200 for the generator
good cause without the generator it's a useless truck
Any day.
@@THESLlCK A useless truck? Your idodicy has no limits, does it?
@@JoeJacksonGT3 give mommy her phone back and ask for some lead in your milk
Slick Mike the Ford can tow more, is faster, and gets more mpg what more do u want
Great video Gents!
2 great trucks! GM who?
Yep the 3.21 in the Ram kills the 60 second time. My 2021 Laramie 5.7 with the 3.92 is a rocket out of the hole in comparison.
what is a 3.92? sorry
If I have to wait over a minute in a parking lot for some dude letting his truck auto park before I can drive past I would lose it. The tech needs to accomplish it faster, it's not there yet for mass consumption.
Shit most people I see take longer than these trucks did.
You have way too much stress in your life if waiting for someone to park affects you that much.
@@chashint1 Yeah. Why so impatient to get into the store or wherever?
You should time yourself parking backing up. Most people in a truck like this take much longer than a minute. Or they just get lazy and double park.
Good video, should have matched the ram with a 3:55 or 3:92 rear ended to match more closely with the Ford 3:73...
3:21 to 3:92 would have made a lot of difference in towing and 0-60
whats the story with the rusting axels on the new 2021 fords? will they be addressing this or covering parts under warranty ?
70,000 omg! Looks fun though!
The thing with towing is that you have to tow a trailer because towing 11,000 pounds isn't the same as stopping and controlling 11,000
Right. Just because a truck can pull x amount of weight in a straight line doesn't mean it can really handle it. If I were going over 10k anyway I'd kind of want a 3/4 ton for extra stability. Most people who buy half-tons don't tow that much if not rarely tow at all.
@@private6549 most 3/4 ton I see don’t haul shit either tbh
@@aron6998 They still have the capability to do so. Just because a lot of the owners don't work them that much doesn't mean they can't handle it. Besides, a lot of 3/4 ton owners daily drive their rig and when you see them not doing any kind of work it's probably just a commuter drive.
@@private6549 nah I have friends that buy 3/4 ton and 1 ton that never haul anything they just like them
@@aron6998 Well, that isn't the case for me. I know guys that haul and tow heavy crap with them. A few Ram 2500s and Silverado 2500s and an F-250 in my neighborhood that are constantly towing stuff. My father uses his 3/4 ton for hauling heavy loads in the bed, often 1k+ pounds.
Both nice trucks. I have a ram with 3:91 gears. Wonder how that would have stacked up on the towing and speed test.
I absolutely love what Fiat has done with Ram/Chrysler/Jeep. They drove the quality of interiors so far ahead of the completion that in a period of 4-5 years revolutionized the truck interior expectations.
TFL truck has done the same thing in truck review exceptions. TFL is absolutely my go to channel for information.
Wait. So you’re telling me if the Ram had four 250lb men inside that it would be maxed out?? Throwing anything in the bed would mean it’s overloaded??
Yeah agree makes no sense, my F150 has 2800 lb payload, 2016 5.0L
haha you can still put shit in the bed with 4 adults riding & it will pull it with ease!
@@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman pull it, yeah, but it will be overloaded. Meaning you could damage the truck since the payload is based around axle load capacity. So doing so would be stupid and dangerous. Buy the right truck for the job, and in most every case a RAM isn’t it, at least until you get into the 2500 where RAM still builds a truck for work. The 1500 has become a truck for guys that want a truck but won’t ever actually use it as one.
Just need too tell my wife to be 120lbs to save payload....
@@Vulnox i have a '96 Ram extended cab long wheelbase 1500 5.9 360 with 425,000 miles thats been pulling my 18,000lb landscaping trailer {with me & 3 guys inside} for 25 years with no issues other than brakes, tires, battery etc! My other Ram is a '95 single cab 5.2 318 that pulls my roofing & siding trailer & it has just over 285,000! Before that I had an '86 F150 5.8 351 that went thru 3 trannies & 2 rear ends & the ford was rated higher in towing but here it is 25 years later & the Rams are still pulling strong so I have bought the right truck since this is my 8th Dodge in 40 years, had a few 70s/80s Chevy box bodies but they were just for driving & cruising where the Dodges always were the work trucks
71k for 1/2 tons! The bottom is gonna drop out on these things soon if they continue with these ridiculous prices!
Does anyone use the parking assist feature? My Pacifica has it and I tried it once for fun... to so long and effort is so much easier to park manually using the excellent cameras.
I have my windows tinted dark and I do enjoy using it at night even with the surround camera's and honestly once you get used to it where to stop it's very quick on the ram probably another 20 sec plus quicker than the vid shows
@@russellf4285OK cool. Do you have a RAM? Makes sense that using it often will get you better results.
@@jal316 yes I have a 2020 ram limited first ram tbh always been Chevy or ford for me but so far I love it
You got alot more with the f150 for the same price range, amd you get the on board generator.
So for 71k I can have a truck that parks itself but takes a minute longer than I would take and doesn’t do as good of a job. Thats a heck of a value deal.
With that being said if anyone can’t park a vehicle themselves but have 71k to spend, they should use public transportation and invest the cash in silver bc if you can’t park you shouldn’t drive
So these trucks take a minute to park themselves, you being able to park a minute faster doesn't really make sense.
You gave Ram a W for a $100 difference? Sure sounds like you’re reaching boys.
Hey TFL. With the current market I find myself, unfortunately, in the market for a F250 7.3 or the 2500 6.4. (I don’t have an application that will require or ROI the diesel) I have access to the partnership plans for both Ford and Ram. The Ford is the “Ford x-plan” and the Ram is the CN number 1% below invoice deal. In normal times a person can negotiate at least as well or better but would your experience tell you that right now that will be the best deal option?
I am currently researching a replacement for my 2013 F150 Lariat EB. I'm looking at both the Ford F150 EB/PB or the Ram 1500, so this review is helpful. However, it didn't help me make a decision. Help....
Here as a gm guy waiting for them to step up there interior game......
Couldn’t agree more, Chevy/GMs interiors in their trucks are so cheap looking and ugly. The center stack and screen are just bulbous and the screen is dwarfed by the two large vents plastered on each side.
They need to step up overall with quality.
Honestly the Denali, AT4, SLT, High Country and LTZ need it as they are supposed to be the fancy trims But the interior is fine for LT, SLE and below.
@@foxwithshades7080 In my opinion the current GM interior is work truck grade at best. If you've spent anytime in a new RAM or Ford mid grade truck it's hard to argue that. Again in my opinion.
Waiting for them to fix the exterior also.
How about how the Ford’s rocker panels won’t rust away in 5 yrs like the Fiat. Win for Ford yet again!
Agreed. I’m a GM fan and although they bashed Ford for going Aluminum , that was a smart move. If I had to buy a new truck today (and had the money to burn) I’d go Ford just for that. Way too much salt up here on the roads.
Hi!! Drove my ram for 10 years no rust!!!! It’s all about maintenance. Do t know what this Chevy guy is talking about but they are piece of shit and by far the worst out of the bunch. Fords are just ugly interior but great looking truck. Thanks
@@thecretanbull4784 yea if you actually just take care of your truck and don’t neglect it you won’t have to worry about rust. and if you wanna use it for real truck things the aluminum ford is worthless. i’ve seen people put a hole in the bed backing through mailboxes on the job site
@@jeffersondavis6699 I love how you two start out by sounding sounding chill, then go straight into dogde fanboys so quickly.
The ram has towing option but pulls 4000 less pounds?
Cuz it sucks
You guys tie to keep both manufacturers happy so you can keep driving their trucks. Ford F150 Power Boost wins. You can't give points for price for $100. Speed test in Sport mode but did you also manual shift? The 7.2 KW feature is worth double points!
When I get my 2021 Ford F-150 with the max towing package 3.5l ECOBOOST v6 (lariat or XLT sport ) you guys can do a towing and mpg loop with my truck even going up to Moab because I’m also getting it with the fx4 package
Get the Lariat if you want 4A. Not available on XLT.
Great video. Doesn't the the 5.7 Hemi require mid-level gas? Typically in our area South Carolina that's 20 to 25 cents more per gallon.
no not required.
Rating on my 2020 ram 1500 Sport with 3.9.1 axel is 771 kg or 1700 lbs combined occupants and cargo straight up Hemi. I’m getting 13.2 l/100 or 17.5 avg mpg.
That brown leather
Longhorn interior is one of best. King ranch is a very close second.
Longhorn and King Ranch are the best
@@gordonn9995 the Tundra 1798 and Titan Platinum Reserve at nice too but the Silverado High Country is complete garbage as far as the cowboy interiors go.
The Fords parking system works really good. The reason why it won’t back all the way into a parking spot is because it’s program to leave enough room for the tailgate to drop in case you need to load anything. So it in a way it’s smart , but also a pain if you don’t need to load anything.
nice, I did not know that
A hot cup of coffee and TFL videos. Life is good!
I was expecting the Hybrid to be on the 30+ MPG range. To have a V8 at 22 MPG and the V6 at 26 MPG on a 23 mile loop with 4 mpg difference is a little disappointing.
Well since were talking on 6k+ lbs trucks is to be expected mpg is not their strength on Gas engines, my money will always go on Diesel for the best durability, towing and range.
Now if you want speed above else then get the Ram TRX for the smiles per gallon :)
No one mentioned how they started the parking thing from 2 different positions
Just trying to manufacture a point for the Ram for entertainment purposes,..... Just like the $100 difference in price.... Like c'mon that only works if optioned identically. These trucks aren't close PB all day.
Please if u can't park your truck or back up with a trailer dont buy a truck. Buy a Ford focus something u can handle.
Nothing wrong with auto backup. Been backing up trailers for over 30 yrs and sometimes after a long drive, it's nice to let my Ram backup my trailer. The park assist though, I agree, waste of money.
@@troygorniak6197 you can back a trailer. Alot of people cannot I see it every year at the boat ramps. These people need to learn that basic task when towing a trailer and not depend on all these electronic nannies that people depend on to drive these days. People wonder why vehicle are getting so expensive all the nannies don't help the price.
I really think that if your doing a truck comparison test it needs to also feature a run up the Ike gauntlet. The the biggest value I derive from TFL is the real world towing tests.
Great review
Wait, so for just a hundred bucks more, you get more horsepower, torque, faster acceleration, a hybrid, and a generator. Yea, gotta go with the F150. You get a lot more for your money with the Ford.
The parking assist for normal parking is kinda dumb🤣 I understand the parallel parking but just backing in a spot😂
It all come down to personal preference. Ram came out with a killer interior in '19, Ford followed it up in '21. I'm a Ford man so that's what I bought. I went with the fully loaded F150 King Ranch 4 X 4 FX4 with the 3.5L Ecoboost engine. Was a little more expensive than the Platinum here, but I'm OK with that. It's my daily driver while my '19 Mustang GT sits under the carport until I feel frisky!!! LOL
Ram's eTourque V8 can tow 12,750 lbs. The base V6 tows 7,xxx lbs. That is a big difference.
Love Both trucks but man 1k payload is painful for a half ton
It all depends on what you want the truck for. The Ram would be a great highway cruiser and family vehicle. Again, it all depends on what you want it for.
Exactly how much is half of a ton? 🤣😂
@@billjamison2877 the new F150 is also a nice highway cruiser. Yes maybe the Ram rides better due to the rear coils but it’s close. No denying Ram is nice but their trucks have gotten too heavy.
When I shopped both trucks similarly equipped locally I could get over 10 k off the ram and struggled to get $2000 off the Ford so the ram ended up being $8000 less.
I see the same argument with GM trucks and let’s be honest here. If the biggest selling feature is “how much discount can I get?” Then features and quality are meaningless.
That should tell you just about everything you need to know about the two trucks. During a time when demand is at an all time high, one keeps selling with hardly any discounts, while the other is still giving them.
And there’s a very good reason for that. FCA is buying market share because the product is inferior.
Ford has had to pay out 10s of millions in recalled vehicles & lawsuits! they have had over 100 lawsuits & 20 millions vehicles recalled in the past 20 years which is the worst among American cars!
@@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman I have been into the auto industry for over 30 years and I can tell you that it is so much kept out of view that your head would spin. What I mean is, it almost impossible to keep count of '"Avoided" recalls and lawsuits and GM wins running away in that category. Several mechanics have exposed the fact that GM changed the part numbers on several parts to avoid recalls and lawsuits. GM has lobbied "lied" before congress for several years to avoid recalls so severe that it would bankrupted the company just like GM did in 2008. There is a pretty good book on how Mary Barra got the top spot at GM by getting GM out of the recall and lawsuit fiascos and helping GM sell it's soul to the government just to stay afloat.
what was the gear ratio on the Ford? vs Ram?
You should do a video racing the new ram Cummins’s with 1000 ft lbs torque and the regular 6.7
How does the Ram have a towing package and only can tow less than 8k pounds? You would think a tow pkg would include a good towing gear ratio.
The options on that truck weigh alot and brings down the capacity. I just got my 21 crew cab 4x4 offroad 6.4 ft box ecodiesel, if I ordered the ram box it would of dropped my tow capacity down to 9300lbs. So I got it without the ram box and my tow capacity is 10,000 lbs and cargo capacity is 1550 lbs.
@@troygorniak6197 what options weigh that much? And still, like I said how can it have a tow plg and that crappy towing gear ratio? Doesn't make sense. Usually a tow pkg gives you the towing gears.
@@troygorniak6197 That’s no excuse. The Ford has a battery pack and generator.
Because the Ram can either get the deep rear end gears for a little more towing and give up fuel economy or keep the fuel economy and give up the extra towing capacity. The new Powerboost does both. Also the "Ram Boxes" knock off some of the payload. Top of the line "Limited" and "Platinum" trucks usually don't have the good tow or payload numbers of the work trucks, Ram work trucks have much better numbers than this test Ram but then again, so do Fords.
It has a low towing capacity and payload capacity for multiple reasons. The first one is the ramboxes which put a huge dent in the numbers. The 2nd one is the gear ratio. The 3rd one is because it's a top of the line truck, and I've never seen a luxury truck that had a high towing capacity because all of the features weigh the truck down. A base model truck with a hemi and the 3.92 gears is rated for 12750 pounds towing and about 2300 payload. Pretty good numbers.
I’m a die hard Chevy guy but I would probably take the ram... the 2021 ram is a great looking truck.
pick slightly different trucks, axle ratios and stuff like that, and do the 0-60 at sea level or anywhere close to it and im pretty sure this would be very different. also would be curious on what the OTD price was on each one.
they tied, so it really a no brainer?
Both good trucks. Can't go wrong with either.
I think both trucks are a "no brainer" cuz if you pay that much you have no brain
Ram all day but I’ll take the cattle interior. Fords are nice maybe just the standard eco boost or V8, that Hybrid seems like a nightmare in the long run.
Right. It is for short-term buyers who are environmentalist. I'd rather have the EcoBoost for fuel economy because it will also be more reliable and not as much of a hassle to repair.
The hybrid feature on the f150 is certainly useful and a cheap option, but what about maintenance and reliability after 5 or 10 years? I wish you would cover that in a video? I keep my vehicles for many years and miles.
My Frontier has none of these features but it will still be running when both of these are in the local junkyard
The Ram Longhorn is a imitation King Ranch but what is new, all the truck brands copied the King Ranch. Props to Ford for getting this whole luxury truck trim thing going. There not be a Denali, Longhorn, 1794, or High Country if it were not for Ford getting this whole thing started in the 90's with the Eddie Bauer F150.
So the Ford is better at everything that’s cool.
Like the Ford F-150 with the hybrid.
Always good an fair test
Does the RAM have an app?
Can you start it from your phone like you can the F150?
They've had that since 2014 I believe
Yes it’s called Uconnect like $14.99 a month
@@Duddey9 my Ford app is free.
@@henryford2736 I mean I understand that but what do you get with it being free? Just able to lock and unlock the vehicle and start it? With Uconnect you are paying for a form of on star like GM has as well as a monthly vehicle report and are able to track the location of the vehicle for $14.99
@@Duddey9 my app does all that. It gives me fuel and mileage to empty, tire pressure, oil status to next oil change. Alarm monitoring and truck position. You can schedule service and get alerts of any recalls. Earn points for service. It does lot more than lock/unlock and start.