Phenomenal video. I purchased Powerboost about two months ago. I live on a ranch in Texas. Here are my thoughts, I was a little disappointed that getting 24 mpg is rare, BUT this is because a lot of the driving is at 70 mph and you aren’t getting the benefit of the electric motor. However , when I am in town I usually get 24mpg plus. Also, it’s Fast ! I tow a Travel trailer that is around 7k loaded and barely notice it. I swear it’s still 0-60 in 9 seconds or so. Also, I use the 7.2kw onboard all the time. I drag out welders, I power compressors, even to wash or fill up tires on the truck itself, I simply roll out my power washer or compressor and power them with the truck, no fooling with extension cables. I power the camper on quick over nights while traveling and the most fuel I’ve ever used was 1/8 tank, that was in 95+ degrees running the AC full time. It is, the best vehicle I’ve ever owned. I’m in love!
Apart from Alex' puns and other examples of his sense of humor, the main reason I subscribe (and send a few bucks each month to support his channel) is that I nearly always learn something when I watch one of his videos. Not living "off grid" and not being a "truck guy" I'm about as likely to shop for a half ton pickup (hybrid or non-hybrid) as a fixed wing aircraft or a 60 ft yacht. Nevertheless, I'm much better informed about the designs of hybrids and EVs in general after watching his videos. (Sometimes repeatedly.) And in this case I'm far better prepared to understand the choices Ford designers and engineers made in the forthcoming F-150 Lightning. Kudos, Alex. It was well worth investing 25 minutes in watching the video about a vehicle I'll never consider purchasing.
Same, not in the market at all for a truck but I love the in-depth stuff. Alex on Autos and Savage Geese are the only car reviewers I really watch b/c of that
I accidentally left my professional decibel meter at the office. That is the funniest sentence I’ve heard all week thank you Alex! That pretty much sums up everything you are very logical and systematic.
As a fan of Alex on Autos, I pay close attention when Alex says, "off the grid", because my spidey senses tell me that "off grid" may soon become a recurring feature for all of us.
Once governments introduce central bank digital currencies and know every single transaction you do, how much, when and where won't matter where you live.
Good point, even the mill in the Explorer hybrid (3.3 V6) would be pretty nice, or could do a 2.3 Ecoboost hybrid pairing if such a combo could eek out that bit ore with it.
Ford continually develops and has always been a leader in that regard. Not to say the Tundra is bad in the slightest, but it’ll never have the same bells and whistles or cutting edge improvements like Ford can offer.
This is Alex at his best. As a PowerBoost hybrid owner with the 7.2 generator, I found this to be a sensational video. Thank you, Alex. Over my first 7k miles, I am at 21 mpg, about 60/40 split between street and highway. My prior F-150 had the 3.5 and 10 speed combo, I ended at 17.1 mpg over 22k miles, so I'm happy with the fuel savings so far (no towing).
@@michalp2362 so far no issues with the hybrid system, up to 8k miles now. One of my key fobs died which was annoying after only a few months and the intelligent adaptive cruise (not Blue Cruise, they haven't done the OTA yet for that except for testers) is pretty glitchy. That isn't unique to the PowerBoost of course, so overall I am very happy i chose this engine. Down to 19.8 combined with the cold weather and more idle time, but i just had a short trip where i averaged 24.8 over 70 miles even in low 30s temps.
I have this hybrid truck with 3.73 rear end and over 12,000 miles on it. No problems yet and I’ve settled into 21 mpg average with mixed driving. I see 23-24 mpg on some shortish trips as well as 18-19. Usually see 21.something. I have towed my 16 foot 3200 lb box cargo trailer and mileage is about 10 mpg. Tow anything with any vehicle and mpg will be a sad story. My 2016 2500 Ram Cummins diesel saw 11 mpg towing the same trailer but got 17 to 21 mpg when not towing and of course no generator feature. All in all, I’m very happy with the quieter and more comfortable ride of the hybrid F150 as well as the 7.2kw power feature.
For anybody that’s curious, I have an F-150 hybrid and average 20-21 mpg doing city driving in Florida. You definitely have to be gentle on the throttle and manipulate the car into going electric as often as possible. On flat ground, I’ve found that the car just will not go into full electric past 55 mph, but it’s great for when you are waiting at stop lights or coasting to a stop. Alex is right that the transition between gas and electric isn’t really the smoothest, and at low speeds, the 10-speed transmission can feel a little clunky and annoying at times because of constant gear shifting. Overall, I would still recommend it. It’s a great truck and has no issues towing.
@@joeurway2840 once in a while, we tow a 28 ft camper, and we got about 7-8 mpg. Really not the best compared to a diesel, but the truck’s value really shows when you’re not towing and instead are hauling stuff in the bed getting great mileage
@@JustDoinFlorida That sounds right. I occasionally tow 7x16 dual axle cargo trailer that has 7 foot interior height (kinda tall) and I get 10-11 mpg. I did have a 2016 Ram 2500 Cummins diesel which returned… wait for it… 10-11 mpg pulling the same trailer. The diesel pulled the trailer effortlessly, even in mountains, but with more engine noise and roughness. The 3.73 rear end on my F150 PowerBoost really helps with the towing effort.
Powerboost, Ecoboost, and Ford's keypad entry, are reasons I will probably stick with the F150 next time around. I love that the Tundra finally got more gears and a turbo-6 and I'm always jealous of the roll down rear window, but Ford's generator mode is next level
If Ford could get battery cost and weight low enough, a PHEV with a high-voltage pack that supports DCFC and 20 - 30 miles of range would up level up the F150 yet again. Drivers could get most of the benefits of an EV while still retaining the ability to low long distances when needed. Add four-wheel steering as a sweetener for Alex.
Agreed. For long distance towing, it's going to take a while to replace internal combustion from both a battery chemistry and charging infrastructure perspective for a full EV, but if you have a plug-in hybrid version of this exact truck that can do an average commute (or even half of it) on battery only, that's a big deal. We either use our Silverado for local errands, ~120 mile highway runs round trip lightly loaded, or long distance towing with a travel trailer. If we could do the errands on battery only and a 1/4 of an unloaded highway run on battery only, that's significant.
I’d love a PHEV F-150. Unfortunately the market just doesn’t seem to want PHEVs. I spend a lot of time answering questions about my Chevy Volt or Pacifica Hybrid, but most people don’t get it. “Only 60 km of electric range, and you have to put gas in it too? What good is that?”
What Dylan said, 100 times over! Same with our Honda Clarity, people don’t get that we only put gas in it once every two or three months UNLESS we take a road trip, and then we CAN take a road trip of ANY distance we want. It’s wonderful and yet people seem to resist “getting it”.
Nice. This is what a hybrid is all about - added functions. A few people have done videos about sleeping in a Toyota Sienna minivan with automatic heating or automatic cooling, and a hybrid is uniquely capable of doing that. It becomes less of a driving thing and more of an all around utility thing. Being able to plug a microwave into your truck is cool as hell and any person who works remotely or camps can appreciate that.
Might be a little premature considering reliability of either of these yet to be proven (along with resale value). Toyota also hasn't released fuel economy for Tundra hybrid yet.
I'm riight with you. I just ordered my first F150 Powerboost last week. This is a much nicer package than the Tundra, and the Tundra is butt ugly to boot.....
When Toyota engineers were asked why they're not equipping the new Tundra with a large inverter like the F150, they said people wouldn't use it that much. With that logic why have a 4WD version? Yeah, after 12 years driving a Toyota, I'm switching to a Ford hybrid.
@@Interesting_Placebo Agrred. Toyota TELLS their customers what they want. Ford LISTENS to what their customers want. A recent example of this is the Ford Maverick. How many years have customers been asking for a compact pickup truck like this? Another example is Ford's choice of engines in the F150, which of course includes a V8 along with all the other choices.
Yep, I’m convinced. Next truck will be the F150 Powerboost. No doubt about it. I had a 2012 3.5 Ecoboost and loved how it ran and trailered. I’ve made a few iterations since then. I now own a diesel motor home and tow behind it a PHEV Jeep Rubicon. Love the plug in hybrid Jeep, but my back tells me it’s time to move on to a smaller trailer and truck combo.
Good video. I have now owned my 22' PowerBoost Hybrid 8 months. I have a 7000# Airstream. The F150 is my only vehicle. I previously owned a 2017 F150 Plat Eco 10 speed, a 2015 6spd and an '09 8Cyl. F150. This one is certainly the best one so far. Also, there has been a major improvement in towing. I towed in Helen, GA area in the mountains with my camper and the truck was amazing. I set the cruise and it held it in the mountains gearing down, etc. The F150 can tow and use transmission and brakes effectively. I have also benefited overall about 2mpg from my 2017 and 4mpg from the 2015 6spd using calculation at the pump. I still get the same mpg towing which I expected. I haven't used the 7.2kw generator yet. Oh, and my truck had two minor recalls- windshield wiper motor (no problem found) and parking light flicker (reprogrammed).
I have a reservation for the 2022 F-150 Lightning and plan to tow my 8500 pound camping trailer with it. The rest of the time it will let me commute and run errands gas free.
I'm hoping Ford gives us the 2.7 hybrid as an option. I rarely tow even 3000 lbs so I would enjoy the improved fuel economy. If that does not happen in the next 1 1/2 years I may have to consider other options which I expect will surface as time goes by. Thanks for the video.
@@JulezWinnfield Born and raised in Steeler country about 35 miles north of Pittsburgh. However, now live in GA. Go Dawgs! (still a Pitt & Penn State fan though).
I would love to see this hybrid with the 2.7T and I am excited to see what Ford does with the upcoming Ranger hybrid and what they may do with adding a second motor to the rear of the Maverick for electrified AWD. It is really nice having F-150 as a workhouse but it can be even better to keep operating costs lower while keeping range high for 13 hour hauling days.
Always enjoy watching Alex’s videos for the accuracy of information presented. So many reviewers don’t do any research beyond press materials provided, and frequently even get those wrong.
Getting 24mpg in a full sized truck city and highway is great, especially when we’re outsourcing gas production to the Middle East again. I’m excited for mid sized trucks to catch up. Hopefully we’ll see a 30mpg tacoma and ranger sometime soon.
Instead of relying on oil from Middle East, how about we, as a country, take on the challenge and lead the way to not rely on oil period, instead? That sounds a lot more positive an outlook than the one you gave.
@@FARFolomew I think we may be trying to do that. Seems like a lot of push towards renewable energy. Certainly some smaller countries that might be "leading" but given our country's size, i think we're doing decently in that regard to reduce our dependence on foreign sources.
When you were doing the driving test portion of the video, I was saying to myself, why doesn't Ford offer this hybrid with their 2.7L Ecoboost. That would make a lot more sense from a practicality standpoint then you could possibly get 26-27mpg and still have plenty of towing power for 99% of people who buy f150s. Great content Alex! Always enjoy your videos
Thanks for this video Alex. Really good showing of the hybrid abilities and what the inverter can do. This has been my favorite F-150 model (on paper) since it came out.
We have a powerboost and it’s a great truck! I’ve gotten as high as 37 mpg’s doing 50 mph on the Natchez Trace Parkway! Total 63 mile trip average was 29 mpg’s! Interstate driving 75-80 mph = 22 mpg’s. Oh, it’s a 4x4 too!
Wow!!! Amazingly detailed video. Thank you for the excellent deep dive and comparative data. No other automotive channel gets into the weeds like this.
Being a current owner of the 14" F150 in a super crew cabin and a 6ft bed, I do have the 5.0 liter option with the trailer/tow package, E-brakes in a 4x4. I too tow trailers up to 6,000 lbs +/- regularly but my thorn with the F150 is,... to get the higher towing capability in the same cabin configuration I really would have to go to a F250 which becomes a gas guzzler. I wish,if Ford is going to advertise towing "up too" that this marketing also includes F150 Super Crew with a long bed in 4x4 in 3:55 gears. On long road trips, the F150 drives so much more nicely than a F250 when both are unloaded. Super interested in this new Hybrid but I really gain nothing in towing like a 9000k trailer with better fuel economy.
I'm not sure what your point is, you say you'd need to get an F-250 but then say that the F-150 is capable enough in the right trim. So are you just wanting Ford to advertise more openly? Because a new 5.0 or 2.7 equipped Super Crew 4x4 6.7" bed is definitely possible to find that can tow 10-13k rated pounds.
Alex, Other than 'a cast of thousands', this video is on par with anything Cecil B. DeMille ever produced. Since I have NO questions left about the F-150, I wonder how often you change the oil in your stationary generators?
Disagree about the (non) engine braking statement. Just finished a 3,000 mile run towing a 6000# trailer, all of it around, up and over the Rockies. 6-7% grades were the norm, scales at trip's beginning showed total weight was 12,000#. I consistently found that using the cruise control to set a down-hill speed would, automatically, result in the truck gearing down to maintain the set speed. I never used manual downshifting. This gear-controlled engine braking never failed us, altho' we might be in 4th or 5th gear at times, based on speed set.
I couldn’t help but notice he said this while towing in Normal Mode. If he was in tow/haul mode he would have had the benefits of the engine breaking. Granted towing in 7k in our Powerboost on the highway in tow/haul especially in the mountains your mpgs are going to dip below 10.
a really nice and different take from the normal reviews out there. thank you for showing how you ACTUALLY use it instead of what the manufacturer says
F-150 with the v8! Because, v8 rumble! But, the Hybrid is a supper cool truck. I like virtually everything about it. But I would lean more toward the Lower more utilitarian spec model Andre purchased on the TFL site. I think his truck is about the ideal F-150.
F150 hybrid is definitely a perfect truck to me..great engine combine with hybrid system is topnotch..my only concern is the affordability..I wish ford will offer this system in maverick truck.
I am a first time viewer of this channel. What a great find, and what a wealth of knowledge. Thank you for this information, and I look forward to checking out some of your other videos. (Also, I purchased a fx4 powerboost last month and took it through mountains, rain, snow, freeway and suburbia. I am very happy with this truck.
Very cool review! The main reason for me not getting a F150 hybrid is that it comes only in the Limited trim here (Canada) with a starting price of $97k. This is nuts.
Huh? I just ordered an F150 hybrid in Lariat trim here in Canada for a whole lot less money than $97K. You can also get the hybrid in as low as the XLT trim in Canada which is considerably cheaper than the Lariat trim. Better check your facts again....
Truly a fascinating take on a pickup. I really enjoyed your unique perspective! Nicely done and could sway a lot of folks to buy this truck, if they live in areas where electric power loss is possible. All other pickup manufacturers are playing catch-up
I read that Ford worked with Toyota in developing the hybrid system. If this is true I would trust it to last. I had a Prius that I drove 170,000 miles with zero problems.
The F150 Lightning is definitely the spotlight stealer, but honestly the F150 Powerboost hybrid is the gem of the lineup - you get compact SUV MPG and still retain everything in the regular F150 gas and more - namely the fact you can tow something and still retain somewhat decent range, whereas the Lightning is a great daily but would struggle to better 100mi between charges in the same situation.
The Santa Cruz Mountains really are that lovely. Several state parks preserving redwood groves are in the area, and the hills are covered with second-growth redwood forests that are beautiful, too.
As always, I love the detailed reporting and extra information Alex...you are the best! Still have my Accord Touring Hybrid and the wife's Ridgeline (both rock solid with not a squeak or rattle). 👍 Plus, I have started to gather Renogy Eclipse Monocrystalline solar panels and have a Bluetti AC300 w/two B300. And also I still have my two (2) places in line for the Ford Lightings (no word from Ford yet)...but I keep thinking I might just take two aspirin and see if the Ford Lighting times two (2) x $100 deposits goes away. Actually that Rivian looks so impressive. Okay I could talk vehicles all day long. 😇 Thanks again for all you do!
I could really see this being a huge deal with people with pull campers. having power to run the camper litteraly anywere and still have enough physical power to tow a nice small to medium size camper, would be nice to see if they can do something like this with power on the SD for people with huge campers
Great video Alex. You do a fantastic job explaining the power situation for people who don’t normally think about it. (Although this video looks more like an excuse to show off all your gear 😝)
Alex and followers...if Ford also offered the Hesvy Duty Payload package on this Power boost it would be perfect for me. The HDPP gives you about 2500 pounds parade in a mid xlt crew 4 wheel drive 6.5 bed. With the added weight of the hybrid system you would have maybe 2200 pounds? Not sure of the Wright penalty here. But it would be an awesome rig.
I wish ford would make a plug in hybrid with a larger battery. Here is why, if I can have a EV range of 100 miles, 85% of my driving will be EV only. But when I need the 1100 mile road trip from CLE to ORL we make twice a year.. we’re covered and when we need to see the grandkids once a month CLE to DAY.. we can. Here is my dream hybrid.. GMC 1/2 ton diesel hybrid with a batter large enough to give me 100-150 miles with Rapid charging plug-in. You’d cut my fuel use by 90%. That would be a good “greenie” compromise with a man who builds and remodels residential and commercial buildings.
Alex, i LOVE the setup for your house!! I worked on backup generators for 8 years and would love to check out how everything is set up in person! I live in the Bay Area as well.
Although the V6 EcoBoost may not offer as good engine braking as the V8 it definitely has better acceleration in the mountains at altitude compared to the V8
Will an electrician be able to tie into the main breaker panel and run a connection to where the truck will be in order to power the home during a blackout in a storm or blizzard?
Good video, but you fell a bit short on the towing portion in regards to engine braking. Had you used "tow/haul" mode you'd find the engine braking you're looking for. As detailed as this video is, you need to dig a little deeper in the functions of the truck. I own one (Powerboost w/ max tow) and tow regularly with it.
I don't usually actually thumbs up videos but did on this one. fantastic review and learned a lot. you can tell you went to great pains to bring this review to a finished product. and what an amazing property in the redwoods. how many acres?
@@pryme2013 it's treat for him i'm sure, coming from Texas range to mountain forest, i drive from Baton Rouge to Houston all the time and so flat and boring, i just went to LA 2 weeks ago so i can drive favorite winding roads :) , rented 4runner and went on Thomas Mountain, then back to CA-2, hwy 27 , hwy 1, finally something else then flat
Was just wondering if going downhill loaded as you were and using light braking, wouldn't that be just regenerative braking rather then hydraulic braking?
May have missed this, but did Alex put the truck in Tow Mode? I'm curious because I had heard the truck won't go into EV mode with the Tow Mode engaged. Also, I wonder if the engine downshifting would have been more aggressive when in Tow Mode.
Alex just wanted to show us his toys. I for one am here for it
Gotta justify the write off…
Absolutely
@@butkusrules08 I’m genuinely interested how you can write these items off? Pickup, generator, pump, fill trailer.
Phenomenal video. I purchased Powerboost about two months ago. I live on a ranch in Texas.
Here are my thoughts, I was a little disappointed that getting 24 mpg is rare, BUT this is because a lot of the driving is at 70 mph and you aren’t getting the benefit of the electric motor.
However , when I am in town I usually get 24mpg plus.
Also, it’s Fast !
I tow a Travel trailer that is around 7k loaded and barely notice it. I swear it’s still 0-60 in 9 seconds or so.
Also, I use the 7.2kw onboard all the time. I drag out welders, I power compressors, even to wash or fill up tires on the truck itself, I simply roll out my power washer or compressor and power them with the truck, no fooling with extension cables.
I power the camper on quick over nights while traveling and the most fuel I’ve ever used was 1/8 tank, that was in 95+ degrees running the AC full time.
It is, the best vehicle I’ve ever owned. I’m in love!
Apart from Alex' puns and other examples of his sense of humor, the main reason I subscribe (and send a few bucks each month to support his channel) is that I nearly always learn something when I watch one of his videos. Not living "off grid" and not being a "truck guy" I'm about as likely to shop for a half ton pickup (hybrid or non-hybrid) as a fixed wing aircraft or a 60 ft yacht. Nevertheless, I'm much better informed about the designs of hybrids and EVs in general after watching his videos. (Sometimes repeatedly.) And in this case I'm far better prepared to understand the choices Ford designers and engineers made in the forthcoming F-150 Lightning.
Kudos, Alex. It was well worth investing 25 minutes in watching the video about a vehicle I'll never consider purchasing.
Same, not in the market at all for a truck but I love the in-depth stuff. Alex on Autos and Savage Geese are the only car reviewers I really watch b/c of that
Well said. Alex was my "go-to guy" for my last 3 car purchases and he's been spot on.
So true!
I accidentally left my professional decibel meter at the office. That is the funniest sentence I’ve heard all week thank you Alex! That pretty much sums up everything you are very logical and systematic.
As a fan of Alex on Autos, I pay close attention when Alex says, "off the grid", because my spidey senses tell me that "off grid" may soon become a recurring feature for all of us.
Once governments introduce central bank digital currencies and know every single transaction you do, how much, when and where won't matter where you live.
Give me a Transit van with that hybrid system and I’ll be one HAPPY camper!
1000% agree! There are allot of fleet / work applications as well, much more useful and available sooner than all electric with no range restrictions.
Good point, even the mill in the Explorer hybrid (3.3 V6) would be pretty nice, or could do a 2.3 Ecoboost hybrid pairing if such a combo could eek out that bit ore with it.
I would be very surprised if the hybrid Transit in some form isn’t a thing sometime in the next 5 years.
@@ATH_Berkshire makes sense, just weird how quiet Ford is about the EV Transit that is technically already on sale.
Tundra Hybrid just cannot compete even though the F-150 Hybrid is about a year old!
Ford continually develops and has always been a leader in that regard. Not to say the Tundra is bad in the slightest, but it’ll never have the same bells and whistles or cutting edge improvements like Ford can offer.
7:14 Not a Ford fan, but have to admit they know their customer's needs.
I have the Limited F150 Powerboost. It’s an amazing truck!
I still havent used all the features of my Truck after 9 months..EXCELLENT ReVIEW!
This is Alex at his best. As a PowerBoost hybrid owner with the 7.2 generator, I found this to be a sensational video. Thank you, Alex.
Over my first 7k miles, I am at 21 mpg, about 60/40 split between street and highway. My prior F-150 had the 3.5 and 10 speed combo, I ended at 17.1 mpg over 22k miles, so I'm happy with the fuel savings so far (no towing).
I really want that truck but I’m a little afraid about the reliability of such a complex machine. Have you noticed any issues with yours?
@@michalp2362 so far no issues with the hybrid system, up to 8k miles now. One of my key fobs died which was annoying after only a few months and the intelligent adaptive cruise (not Blue Cruise, they haven't done the OTA yet for that except for testers) is pretty glitchy. That isn't unique to the PowerBoost of course, so overall I am very happy i chose this engine. Down to 19.8 combined with the cold weather and more idle time, but i just had a short trip where i averaged 24.8 over 70 miles even in low 30s temps.
I have this hybrid truck with 3.73 rear end and over 12,000 miles on it. No problems yet and I’ve settled into 21 mpg average with mixed driving. I see 23-24 mpg on some shortish trips as well as 18-19. Usually see 21.something. I have towed my 16 foot 3200 lb box cargo trailer and mileage is about 10 mpg. Tow anything with any vehicle and mpg will be a sad story. My 2016 2500 Ram Cummins diesel saw 11 mpg towing the same trailer but got 17 to 21 mpg when not towing and of course no generator feature. All in all, I’m very happy with the quieter and more comfortable ride of the hybrid F150 as well as the 7.2kw power feature.
For anybody that’s curious, I have an F-150 hybrid and average 20-21 mpg doing city driving in Florida. You definitely have to be gentle on the throttle and manipulate the car into going electric as often as possible. On flat ground, I’ve found that the car just will not go into full electric past 55 mph, but it’s great for when you are waiting at stop lights or coasting to a stop. Alex is right that the transition between gas and electric isn’t really the smoothest, and at low speeds, the 10-speed transmission can feel a little clunky and annoying at times because of constant gear shifting. Overall, I would still recommend it. It’s a great truck and has no issues towing.
I have the same truck and very happy with it. Out of curiosity, what are you towing and what sort of mpg are you seeing while towing?
@@joeurway2840 once in a while, we tow a 28 ft camper, and we got about 7-8 mpg. Really not the best compared to a diesel, but the truck’s value really shows when you’re not towing and instead are hauling stuff in the bed getting great mileage
@@JustDoinFlorida That sounds right. I occasionally tow 7x16 dual axle cargo trailer that has 7 foot interior height (kinda tall) and I get 10-11 mpg. I did have a 2016 Ram 2500 Cummins diesel which returned… wait for it… 10-11 mpg pulling the same trailer. The diesel pulled the trailer effortlessly, even in mountains, but with more engine noise and roughness. The 3.73 rear end on my F150 PowerBoost really helps with the towing effort.
Powerboost, Ecoboost, and Ford's keypad entry, are reasons I will probably stick with the F150 next time around. I love that the Tundra finally got more gears and a turbo-6 and I'm always jealous of the roll down rear window, but Ford's generator mode is next level
The new Tundra is also missing recovery/tow hooks. Total deal breaker for me.
I got a 2022 tundra platinum and it is buggy.. no auto 4wd which was a big miss… I am eyeing the Powerboost
If you haven't done a video on living off the grid, how you came about to that decision, what did you do to prep for it, can you do a video on it?
He has showed his battery collection before.
Yes I had no idea, definitely would love to watch a video on that!
Check out his Mountain Garden channel. He explains a lot more.
If Ford could get battery cost and weight low enough, a PHEV with a high-voltage pack that supports DCFC and 20 - 30 miles of range would up level up the F150 yet again. Drivers could get most of the benefits of an EV while still retaining the ability to low long distances when needed. Add four-wheel steering as a sweetener for Alex.
What you describe is exactly the vehicle I am waiting for, although I can do without the 4-wheel steering :-)
This is what I thought Toyota was coming out with. A Tundra prime would be my next vehicle for sure
Agreed. For long distance towing, it's going to take a while to replace internal combustion from both a battery chemistry and charging infrastructure perspective for a full EV, but if you have a plug-in hybrid version of this exact truck that can do an average commute (or even half of it) on battery only, that's a big deal. We either use our Silverado for local errands, ~120 mile highway runs round trip lightly loaded, or long distance towing with a travel trailer. If we could do the errands on battery only and a 1/4 of an unloaded highway run on battery only, that's significant.
I’d love a PHEV F-150. Unfortunately the market just doesn’t seem to want PHEVs. I spend a lot of time answering questions about my Chevy Volt or Pacifica Hybrid, but most people don’t get it. “Only 60 km of electric range, and you have to put gas in it too? What good is that?”
What Dylan said, 100 times over! Same with our Honda Clarity, people don’t get that we only put gas in it once every two or three months UNLESS we take a road trip, and then we CAN take a road trip of ANY distance we want. It’s wonderful and yet people seem to resist “getting it”.
Nice. This is what a hybrid is all about - added functions. A few people have done videos about sleeping in a Toyota Sienna minivan with automatic heating or automatic cooling, and a hybrid is uniquely capable of doing that. It becomes less of a driving thing and more of an all around utility thing. Being able to plug a microwave into your truck is cool as hell and any person who works remotely or camps can appreciate that.
I would definitely get the F-150 Hybrid over the new Tundra Hybrid
Might be a little premature considering reliability of either of these yet to be proven (along with resale value). Toyota also hasn't released fuel economy for Tundra hybrid yet.
I'm riight with you. I just ordered my first F150 Powerboost last week. This is a much nicer package than the Tundra, and the Tundra is butt ugly to boot.....
When Toyota engineers were asked why they're not equipping the new Tundra with a large inverter like the F150, they said people wouldn't use it that much. With that logic why have a 4WD version? Yeah, after 12 years driving a Toyota, I'm switching to a Ford hybrid.
@@Interesting_Placebo Agrred. Toyota TELLS their customers what they want. Ford LISTENS to what their customers want. A recent example of this is the Ford Maverick. How many years have customers been asking for a compact pickup truck like this? Another example is Ford's choice of engines in the F150, which of course includes a V8 along with all the other choices.
@@Interesting_Placebo no 6 seat option in the new gen Tundra too
Alex had way too much fun filming this video. Let's do all the electrical things! Always a good video.
I just bought my hybrid truck I have been a Ford fan for over 50 years and I love this truck
I didn't know it was possible to "live off the grid" in Silicon Valley. I guess you learn new things everyday. You've just inspired my new goal!
the area between San Jose and Santa Cruz is pretty remote and wooded
@@ackables I'm not that far from him. I've driven those roads a few times
Yep, I’m convinced. Next truck will be the F150 Powerboost. No doubt about it. I had a 2012 3.5 Ecoboost and loved how it ran and trailered. I’ve made a few iterations since then. I now own a diesel motor home and tow behind it a PHEV Jeep Rubicon. Love the plug in hybrid Jeep, but my back tells me it’s time to move on to a smaller trailer and truck combo.
Good video. I have now owned my 22' PowerBoost Hybrid 8 months. I have a 7000# Airstream. The F150 is my only vehicle. I previously owned a 2017 F150 Plat Eco 10 speed, a 2015 6spd and an '09 8Cyl. F150. This one is certainly the best one so far. Also, there has been a major improvement in towing. I towed in Helen, GA area in the mountains with my camper and the truck was amazing. I set the cruise and it held it in the mountains gearing down, etc. The F150 can tow and use transmission and brakes effectively. I have also benefited overall about 2mpg from my 2017 and 4mpg from the 2015 6spd using calculation at the pump. I still get the same mpg towing which I expected. I haven't used the 7.2kw generator yet. Oh, and my truck had two minor recalls- windshield wiper motor (no problem found) and parking light flicker (reprogrammed).
With Everything happening at the house, I don’t know how you have time for AOA. That’s a ton of work in a world where no one wants to work lol
I have a reservation for the 2022 F-150 Lightning and plan to tow my 8500 pound camping trailer with it. The rest of the time it will let me commute and run errands gas free.
Sweet! I just leased a Powerboost for 24 months and have my reservation in for a Lightning as well. My RV is a little lighter than yours.
I'm hoping Ford gives us the 2.7 hybrid as an option. I rarely tow even 3000 lbs so I would enjoy the improved fuel economy. If that does not happen in the next 1 1/2 years I may have to consider other options which I expect will surface as time goes by. Thanks for the video.
Go Stillers!
Why not get a smaller truck if you don't tow much?
@@baddriversofcolga Good point. I'm continuing to look at all options.
Are you from the 'Burgh?
@@JulezWinnfield Born and raised in Steeler country about 35 miles north of Pittsburgh. However, now live in GA. Go Dawgs! (still a Pitt & Penn State fan though).
I would love to see this hybrid with the 2.7T and I am excited to see what Ford does with the upcoming Ranger hybrid and what they may do with adding a second motor to the rear of the Maverick for electrified AWD. It is really nice having F-150 as a workhouse but it can be even better to keep operating costs lower while keeping range high for 13 hour hauling days.
Great job Ford. Now can you implement this on the Expedition? Please make it hybrid or EV!
Need to the run the AC in my camper while traveling.
Make a El expedition electric 💡⚡
@@jghall00 you can. The inverter is supposed while truck is going down road.
@@Astrand1 I know, need the PowerBoost on an Expedition.
Always enjoy watching Alex’s videos for the accuracy of information presented. So many reviewers don’t do any research beyond press materials provided, and frequently even get those wrong.
Getting 24mpg in a full sized truck city and highway is great, especially when we’re outsourcing gas production to the Middle East again.
I’m excited for mid sized trucks to catch up. Hopefully we’ll see a 30mpg tacoma and ranger sometime soon.
Instead of relying on oil from Middle East, how about we, as a country, take on the challenge and lead the way to not rely on oil period, instead? That sounds a lot more positive an outlook than the one you gave.
@@FARFolomew I think we may be trying to do that. Seems like a lot of push towards renewable energy. Certainly some smaller countries that might be "leading" but given our country's size, i think we're doing decently in that regard to reduce our dependence on foreign sources.
Thank you for demonstrating the generator system....I just built a mobile barber shop, I can store my gen away and use the power out the back! 💈
this is the best detailed explanation I've come across relating to this F-150 Hybrid.
Love mine so far. 2021 lariat. If you buy one take the pirelli tires off wear fast and suck in heavy rain. Hydroplane everytime.
When you were doing the driving test portion of the video, I was saying to myself, why doesn't Ford offer this hybrid with their 2.7L Ecoboost. That would make a lot more sense from a practicality standpoint then you could possibly get 26-27mpg and still have plenty of towing power for 99% of people who buy f150s. Great content Alex! Always enjoy your videos
Thanks for this video Alex. Really good showing of the hybrid abilities and what the inverter can do. This has been my favorite F-150 model (on paper) since it came out.
We have a powerboost and it’s a great truck! I’ve gotten as high as 37 mpg’s doing 50 mph on the Natchez Trace Parkway! Total 63 mile trip average was 29 mpg’s!
Interstate driving 75-80 mph = 22 mpg’s. Oh, it’s a 4x4 too!
Wow!!! Amazingly detailed video. Thank you for the excellent deep dive and comparative data. No other automotive channel gets into the weeds like this.
Being a current owner of the 14" F150 in a super crew cabin and a 6ft bed, I do have the 5.0 liter option with the trailer/tow package, E-brakes in a 4x4. I too tow trailers up to 6,000 lbs +/- regularly but my thorn with the F150 is,... to get the higher towing capability in the same cabin configuration I really would have to go to a F250 which becomes a gas guzzler. I wish,if Ford is going to advertise towing "up too" that this marketing also includes F150 Super Crew with a long bed in 4x4 in 3:55 gears. On long road trips, the F150 drives so much more nicely than a F250 when both are unloaded. Super interested in this new Hybrid but I really gain nothing in towing like a 9000k trailer with better fuel economy.
I'm not sure what your point is, you say you'd need to get an F-250 but then say that the F-150 is capable enough in the right trim. So are you just wanting Ford to advertise more openly? Because a new 5.0 or 2.7 equipped Super Crew 4x4 6.7" bed is definitely possible to find that can tow 10-13k rated pounds.
If you had a boat & trailer weighing 10,000lbs, for short distance towing infrequently, what truck would you buy?
Alex, Other than 'a cast of thousands', this video is on par with anything Cecil B. DeMille ever produced. Since I have NO questions left about the F-150, I wonder how often you change the oil in your stationary generators?
Disagree about the (non) engine braking statement. Just finished a 3,000 mile run towing a 6000# trailer, all of it around, up and over the Rockies. 6-7% grades were the norm, scales at trip's beginning showed total weight was 12,000#. I consistently found that using the cruise control to set a down-hill speed would, automatically, result in the truck gearing down to maintain the set speed. I never used manual downshifting. This gear-controlled engine braking never failed us, altho' we might be in 4th or 5th gear at times, based on speed set.
I couldn’t help but notice he said this while towing in Normal Mode. If he was in tow/haul mode he would have had the benefits of the engine breaking. Granted towing in 7k in our Powerboost on the highway in tow/haul especially in the mountains your mpgs are going to dip below 10.
a really nice and different take from the normal reviews out there. thank you for showing how you ACTUALLY use it instead of what the manufacturer says
With a passion for mountain biking, your off-grid living in hills sounds amazing !!!
I just had my f150 hybrid and I loved it
I have a 2022 PB. It does have engine braking, but only when in “Tow/Haul” mode. Great video with great explanation!
F-150 with the v8! Because, v8 rumble! But, the Hybrid is a supper cool truck. I like virtually everything about it. But I would lean more toward the Lower more utilitarian spec model Andre purchased on the TFL site. I think his truck is about the ideal F-150.
It is a sweet truck isn't it?
F150 hybrid is definitely a perfect truck to me..great engine combine with hybrid system is topnotch..my only concern is the affordability..I wish ford will offer this system in maverick truck.
I received shipping notification of My 2022 king Ranch Powerboost F150 super crew 4x4 in antimatter blue, I’m so pumped! Just a couple more weeks.
I am a first time viewer of this channel. What a great find, and what a wealth of knowledge. Thank you for this information, and I look forward to checking out some of your other videos. (Also, I purchased a fx4 powerboost last month and took it through mountains, rain, snow, freeway and suburbia. I am very happy with this truck.
Very cool review! The main reason for me not getting a F150 hybrid is that it comes only in the Limited trim here (Canada) with a starting price of $97k. This is nuts.
Huh? I just ordered an F150 hybrid in Lariat trim here in Canada for a whole lot less money than $97K. You can also get the hybrid in as low as the XLT trim in Canada which is considerably cheaper than the Lariat trim. Better check your facts again....
This it the absolute best review video on TH-cam for this truck. You did a phenomenal job.
Truly a fascinating take on a pickup. I really enjoyed your unique perspective! Nicely done and could sway a lot of folks to buy this truck, if they live in areas where electric power loss is possible. All other pickup manufacturers are playing catch-up
I think it's only Toyota that is trying to catch up. And they're really trying to. The others aren't doing anything at all.
Or you could buy a $1000 generator.
I read that Ford worked with Toyota in developing the hybrid system. If this is true I would trust it to last. I had a Prius that I drove 170,000 miles with zero problems.
The F150 Lightning is definitely the spotlight stealer, but honestly the F150 Powerboost hybrid is the gem of the lineup - you get compact SUV MPG and still retain everything in the regular F150 gas and more - namely the fact you can tow something and still retain somewhat decent range, whereas the Lightning is a great daily but would struggle to better 100mi between charges in the same situation.
What a beautiful place you live in, Alex.
The Santa Cruz Mountains really are that lovely. Several state parks preserving redwood groves are in the area, and the hills are covered with second-growth redwood forests that are beautiful, too.
As always, I love the detailed reporting and extra information Alex...you are the best! Still have my Accord Touring Hybrid and the wife's Ridgeline (both rock solid with not a squeak or rattle). 👍 Plus, I have started to gather Renogy Eclipse Monocrystalline solar panels and have a Bluetti AC300 w/two B300. And also I still have my two (2) places in line for the Ford Lightings (no word from Ford yet)...but I keep thinking I might just take two aspirin and see if the Ford Lighting times two (2) x $100 deposits goes away. Actually that Rivian looks so impressive. Okay I could talk vehicles all day long. 😇 Thanks again for all you do!
The Tundra hybrid may be similar, but only the Ford has the 7.2kw utility output.
So stupid of toyota to not offer an inverter
In Wisconsin the biggest threat is losing your furnace blower and having all your pipes explode. I would love a truck like this!
Alex just became my favorite reviewer
Alex gave one of the best, if not the best overview that I have ever seen. Totally Outstanding!
I could really see this being a huge deal with people with pull campers. having power to run the camper litteraly anywere and still have enough physical power to tow a nice small to medium size camper, would be nice to see if they can do something like this with power on the SD for people with huge campers
1:10 I see your notes and can imagine your first reaction when seeing Toyota’s new sandwich hybrid system lol!
What a great review! I owned both the powerboost and a tundra hybrid and the drive systems were almost identical
Ford did a really good job with this truck
Thanks Alex, I wanted an in depth look at the F-150 hybrid battery system and you served it up.
You are a trusted source, I think you should do a video series on your off grid ways/processes!
Great video Alex. You do a fantastic job explaining the power situation for people who don’t normally think about it.
(Although this video looks more like an excuse to show off all your gear 😝)
Another comparison. Alex's well pump is 240V so it'd take two Tesla Powerwall 2 energy storage systems to back it up.
The fact that Toyota left the 7.2kw inverter off the new Tundra makes me consider Ford for the first time.
Great technical details
Very well done video! I ordered a powerboost which is scheduled to start production tomorrow! cant wait!
Damn i wish they make f250 with generator
Very nice job Alex. Interesting perspective on the whole truck buying process. 🤔
needs better fuel economy but what an improvement 30% is
Alex and followers...if Ford also offered the Hesvy Duty Payload package on this Power boost it would be perfect for me. The HDPP gives you about 2500 pounds parade in a mid xlt crew 4 wheel drive 6.5 bed. With the added weight of the hybrid system you would have maybe 2200 pounds? Not sure of the Wright penalty here. But it would be an awesome rig.
I wish ford would make a plug in hybrid with a larger battery. Here is why, if I can have a EV range of 100 miles, 85% of my driving will be EV only. But when I need the 1100 mile road trip from CLE to ORL we make twice a year.. we’re covered and when we need to see the grandkids once a month CLE to DAY.. we can.
Here is my dream hybrid.. GMC 1/2 ton diesel hybrid with a batter large enough to give me 100-150 miles with Rapid charging plug-in. You’d cut my fuel use by 90%. That would be a good “greenie” compromise with a man who builds and remodels residential and commercial buildings.
Even though you didn’t say it Alex, based on the numbers, this thing can bacon.
Damn, if it can tow my 9500 lbs trailer and mini excavator combo, I’d definitely trade in my 2018 Powerstroke to get some good mpg’s.
Alex flexing right now.
12 videos in the past 2 weeks!!😃
F150 is cool and all, but we need a review of your Kubota. Those small things can tow a surprising amount of weight
If you put the truck into tow mode, it does have engine braking and its nearly as good as my 07 3500 ltz duramax.
Fascinating and informative video. Well done!
At these hybrid prices, Ford is reaching a point where fewer and fewer people can afford them.
Holy cow you live out there!? I thought that was just a spot you take the cars to the test drive!!!
Alex, i LOVE the setup for your house!! I worked on backup generators for 8 years and would love to check out how everything is set up in person! I live in the Bay Area as well.
I'm sure Alex makes a habit of inviting random TH-cam commenters into his home. 😖😖
Imagine you tow a Tesla, plug to charge it by this F-150, and let Tesla rolling with its highest regen!
Although the V6 EcoBoost may not offer as good engine braking as the V8 it definitely has better acceleration in the mountains at altitude compared to the V8
This is the ultimate truck in 2023
Will an electrician be able to tie into the main breaker panel and run a connection to where the truck will be in order to power the home during a blackout in a storm or blizzard?
Yes, it’s called a generator interlock switch
@@Sentra1985 wauuuuu impressive
Very good video packed with information. Sure would be nice if Ford would add this Powerboost system with a Superduty with the 7.3 Gas V8!
Good video, but you fell a bit short on the towing portion in regards to engine braking. Had you used "tow/haul" mode you'd find the engine braking you're looking for. As detailed as this video is, you need to dig a little deeper in the functions of the truck. I own one (Powerboost w/ max tow) and tow regularly with it.
Great usability perspective type of video
I don't usually actually thumbs up videos but did on this one. fantastic review and learned a lot. you can tell you went to great pains to bring this review to a finished product. and what an amazing property in the redwoods. how many acres?
He mentioned 13
@@tallll70 nice!
@@pryme2013 it's treat for him i'm sure, coming from Texas range to mountain forest, i drive from Baton Rouge to Houston all the time and so flat and boring, i just went to LA 2 weeks ago so i can drive favorite winding roads :) , rented 4runner and went on Thomas Mountain, then back to CA-2, hwy 27 , hwy 1, finally something else then flat
Looks when apocalypse happens I’m moving to Alex house. Just that 2cyl Diesel engine will draw lots of Californian zombies.
Very informative video thank you! I love my powerboost
I did not know you lived off grid. This was a really cool video.
I don't care what it does brand new. I care what it does 5 years from now. Which it won't.
Was just wondering if going downhill loaded as you were and using light braking, wouldn't that be just regenerative braking rather then hydraulic braking?
May have missed this, but did Alex put the truck in Tow Mode? I'm curious because I had heard the truck won't go into EV mode with the Tow Mode engaged. Also, I wonder if the engine downshifting would have been more aggressive when in Tow Mode.
Very good and informative. Looking into getting a hybrid F150
JIS
Yeah. I would interested in less powerful but more efficient hybrid with the Power Board.