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Pretty sure Ethan's numbers are wrong but not that far off. Jews are 3.4% of the US population but consist of marginally more than 50% of hate crime victims. Perhaps Ethan has numbers that include the recent uptick that I don't.
There is overwhelming evidence that the system instituted by the Israeli government against the Palestinian people meets the UN definition of apartheid. In effect, Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory constitute one territorial unit under full Israeli control. Palestinians constitute around half of the total population (inside Israel and in the oPt), yet under Israeli law, and in practice, Jewish Israelis and Palestinians are treated differently in almost every aspect of life: housing, education, health, employment, family life, residence, and freedom of movement. Dozens of Israeli laws and policies institutionalise this prevailing system of racial discrimination and domination. Segregation is carried out by implementing separate legal regimes for Jewish Israelis and Palestinians living in the same area. In the occupied West Bank, Jewish Israeli settlers living in illegal settlements are governed by Israeli civil law, while Palestinians also living in the West Bank are governed by Israeli military law. In Israel itself, there exists no ‘Israeli’ nationality shared by all citizens, Jewish and non-Jewish alike. Rather, citizens are divided into ‘national’ categories of ‘Jewish’, which affords them a set of rights and privileges above the other categories, or ‘Arab’ with comparatively restricted rights and privileges. This separation was reiterated when Israel passed the Nation State Law in 2018, essentially codifying decades of discrimination and enshrining two classes of citizens in law. Israel carries out various acts that are prohibited by the UN Apartheid Convention including: Forcible transfer of Palestinians to make way for illegal Israeli settlements. Preventing Palestinians from returning to their homes and lands (including millions of refugees living in exile). Systematic and severe deprivation of fundamental human rights of Palestinians based on their identity. Denying Palestinians their right to freedom of movement and residence (especially, but not limited to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip). Murder, torture, unlawful imprisonment and other severe deprivation of physical liberty. Persecution of Palestinians because of their opposition to apartheid.
Its more like, its a common trait for men to be somewhat "aggressive" and calling that emotional would be to say that men lose their normal logical thinking when they act aggressive, which just isn't the case. It would be called emotional from a females standpoint, because anger doesn't "help" them in a survival sense and is an emotional response rather than a logical one. @@mq7wn
@@mq7wnit is crazy! The red pill people will use the same argument. “Women Are emotional bc they cry.” And then the red pillers show anger or yell at guests. Like anger is an emotion too dude!
@@alejammi cause they were never friends you think hasan would defend ethan or throw him in front the bus when time came..actually we can see what he did. they were allies due to circumstances, and ethan is realizing he had friends who criticized him but cared about him and traded them in for allies that enable you, until your no longer useful
And he constantly shits on people because of what their viewers do as well. But apparently other people are accountable for their viewers but hasan is an exception
Hasan and his community are such clowns. Those people who write "based" in the chat after the Hamas statement clip are the same ones who have a mental breakdown if somebody misgenders somebody. His community is exactly what I think represents the "Queers for Palestine" movement.
to be fair to hassan even if he doesn’t deserve it, he is differentiating zionism from judaism, and he believes the current zionist structure to be unjust so rectifying that with what he perceives to be a solution that collapses the “apartheid” structure wouldn’t be antisemitism, it would be anti zionism and therefore saying “from the river to the sea” isn’t antisemitic, though in practicality i don’t think it works i don’t think most people using the phrase are calling for the death of jews or the ethnic cleansing of isrealis. they are calling for an unrealistic solution where palestinians and isrealis live in one state and have equal rights in peace with eachother
Ethan is so careful with his wording, underlining time and time again that he's just trying to be realistic about the situation. How is he being bad faith? What does good faith look like to these people?
@@miri745 Sure but like I said he made his bed. He didn't give other people grace when they were trying their best, so now he's in the position, it's no surprise people aren't spilling tears over him.
I feel bad for Ethan. He's literally right yet his own community is so condescending towards him, ignores everything he says and tries to feed him instagram propaganda. I would love for him to talk to Destiny. This community has sadly been far more supportive of him than his own.
At the start of the video, it highlighted someone getting banned for supporting Ethan. I feel like if that clip can be sent to Ethan, he can question Hasan. So you can't get your moderators to ban people who are wrongfully calling me a racist. But your moderators can ban people who are in support of what I am saying? Incredibly funny that Hasan claims to not be able to control the chat when he is completely willing to control them against Ethan. Clearly Hasan no longer thinks of Ethan as a friend (if he ever did), but does not want Ethan to know that, and wants him to still think of them as friends so he can milk the friendship to gain ground in the argument.
The one guy just said "Ethan is making a lot of sense here" and got permabanned lmao. If that isn't lowkey controlling how your viewers see you idk what is.
Didn't Hassan make some points about the n-word saga and how it was reprehensible that destiny was standing a moral position over his friend's personal feelings? Did he try to make some point about how being an ideologue and having what might be the technical moral position is not a good reason to disregard others feelings? I could be making this up but I keep having this feeling That was a claim of his at some point...
Hasan on empathy. Ethan: Please can you just empathize with me. Hasan: I am, by educating you and telling you your wrong. ___________________________________________________________ Also Hasan Ethan: Your mods are sending antisemetic and disgusting things to me. Hasan: You need to empathize with their feelings, they're just emotional you need to suck it up.
More than anything, this is the most egregious thing I've seen Hasan do. All Ethan was asking for was Hasan to show the tiniest bit of empathy for what he said and he does nothing, he let's his fans say the most vile shit to Ethan. Left his FRIEND to wolves. If you cant show some empathy for a 'friend' how could i expect you to have any at all.
Making his friend cry and then insinuating he's a pussy and needs to be handled with the "kiddie gloves" 5 minutes later is so abusive, it makes me cringe to call it abuse but god damn that is fucked. Also Hasan claiming he experienced daily bombings growing up in Turkey is wild, not to mention the "you fell for my trap card" smirk he does when says it, trying his hardest to dunk on his Ethan. I pray everyday that Sam Hyde will be able to complete his promise
I'm curious about those bombings because wasn't he a literal rich kid who played fucking polo as a kid? And I'm pretty sure Turkey wasn't like that. There were more bombings in fucking Italy.
Saying he experienced daily bombings or at the same rate as Israel/palestine is fking wild. I live in Greece which is a neighbouring country to Turkey and that’s just plain wrong. He probably saw them on tv 2-3 times
It's weird too. I went to Turkey around this time as well. No one ever told me there was any civil unrest, any bombings, anything. My understanding is that Turkey was actually fairly stable and prosperous at the time he was growing up there and only became more violent since then, but even then, it's still fairly tame by middle Eastern standards. This is kind of like arguing that I experienced daily planes being flown into towers because I lived in America during 9/11. I mean, I didn't technically live in America at the time, but even if I did, it makes no sense to say that you experienced daily bombings from Istanbul if they are going off on the other side of the country. Just kind of silly. If Istanbul was getting bombed all of the time, I would have seen it when I went there, or at least, the after-effects.
Kinda crazy that Hasan will pretend that he can't manage his community when he treats Destiny like Voldermort, never mentions his name, bans all discussion and refuses to respond to his content. Feels like Hasan is just waiting for Ethan to burn his bridge so he can mask off shit on him relentlessly like he has done to others
Aren’t twitch streamers responsible for their chat as well? If they say enti Semitic things and hasan refuses to do anything about that that can be bannable
@@darkgardener9577that's projection. The Democratic party and lefties in general cannot stop eating each other. Hasan just a tankie and so is his audience.
the correct pronoun is allies, they were never friends and thats why allies as a term exists, cause allies means your together against an enemy until said alliance is no longer needed
lol what do you know about their friendship, I hope they stay strong despite the differences in opinion that they are allowed to have. And talking about enemies, I'm pretty sure Destiny has called Hasan every name possible, he probably does it daily. Thank god Hasan is not as big of a baby and doesn't react to the stalker.
@bojan353 you're right, his energy is much better spent poorly representing Trans issues and then going on a transphobic tyrade against a Trans chatter when they give valid criticism, claiming he hopes every day is as miserable as today is for them.
Ethan: Trying to explain how using a small group of people as tokens doesn't change the meaning behind a slogan Hasan: "OMG Ethan stop doing that, you're making yourself look horrible right now" as a dog whistle to his audience to start calling Ethan racist
hasan is so shady. still not sure if ethan realizes it or not. feels like ethan is giving hasan so much benefit of the doubt, and hasan gives none in return.
Omg that's Sooo true! He literally did that, and he didn't even had to explain why ... That's bc he is not a 'debate pervert', he doesn't arguments, just a group who will bully you to agree with him 👍👍👍
Border? You mean militarised wall armed with AI controlled machine guns. The most brutal border on the whole entire planet? So extreme even republicans have struggled to cross that line? That border yes?
It’s so sad Ethan gets treated like this, they literally lived in Israel, it must be really sad to see someone you thought was a friend running defense for those calling Ethan racist or a genocide supporter etc in his chat
That’s what happens when you play their game. He is now finding out firsthand why he was warned not to play identity politics. Because you don’t own the ideas the ideas own you.
@@triston5540 facts, ethan was an edgy boy, the trimmed the edge said peterson bad, then said ben shaprio should be the last jew into the chamber to experience the loss due to voting for trump, and not ethan has no friends, cause hasan doesnt care about friends he care about allies. and allies can become enemies real quick...
Imagine being friends with leftists. They're so fake. Impossible to get close with someone whose whole personality is "I have all the right (socially acceptable) opinions! And if you don't, fffffffuckyou!" Every interaction is an endless purity test.
Eh, I have limited to zero sympathy for Ethan, he cultivated this audience and invited this world to him. Just because he has a little more sense than some of the others doesn't mean he's a good guy that did nothing wrong.
@@ranjeetabhardwaj6024 Except it isn. Jews for peace wants to get rid of the state of israel wich would lead to a jewish genocide so its actually the same thing like when jews supported hitler both are useful idiots.
Also the parties involved were a lot closer in moral frameworks because of Christianity than Hamas and the Israelis are. Shit got real bad with the IRA but there was still underlying common ground.
This is the reason Hasan is an idiot. He uses irrelevant and disconnected points to make batshit insane arguments. He thinks because he's bringing up Ireland he had some unique take, but no one else brings up Ireland because it's completely irrelevant
How disgusting his chat is. They were absolutely evil to ethan and then when they were a part of making him cry, they gaslight him into thinking they care. Absolutely EVIL behaviour. His cult is evil.
destinys fans photoshop the chat in hasans stream to push they are racist towards jews and destiny are the reason why ethan believed the shit about the chat which destiny himself believed yet not corrected.. which hasan disproved on stream by showing the chat logs of those in the screenshot. and ya reddit fan deleted the post after
go see any chat when you host someone that they disagree with and you will see that people aren't that much different , it's all about how they see you .
Not evil....standard "progressive" Democrat. IF you don't toe their political line they will do you dirty.....what else do you expect from ethno-socialist who want to genocide the Jews?? They're literally Nazis.
*_What goes around, comes around. He chose this path, and went out of his way to ostracize anyone that warned him not to. He gets absolutely no sympathy from me._*
@@kevindiethat kind of thinking is what creates the never ending cycle that we dislike so much. You have to fall, fail, fuckup and learn in order to change. But it also requires us to accept those who have learned their lesson, to undo some of the damage that's been done. But only when someone's truly learned.
The thing that seems so wack about all this is Hasan taking this "let me teach you the way of the world in Israel and what jews think etc." tone while Ethan is actually jewish and has spent years in Israel. How does everyone think it's appropriate for Hasan to act like he's explaining basics to someone with actual lived experiences
Hasan calling someone else bloodthirsty is CRAZY Also you dont get to act smug when you are putting exactly zero effort into putting forth pragmatic solutions. Hasan is just an edgy teenager with middle fingers crossed over his heart.
Person says something true that could be interpreted as supporting war, somehow: Bloodthirsty! Person says something supporting murders by terrorists: Well, there are 2 schools of thought about this
I honestly do not understand how someone supports him. He's in a conversation with a jew that openly admits that the palestinians are wronged, but he can't get further than pushing for one state (which is a non-starter as pointed out early by ethan) and arguing why jews shouldn't be in their feelings about "from the river to the sea". That's literally the whole conversation. Both of them could have talked to a wall with the same outcome.
As a Jewish person, I can fully empathize with the frustration Ethan feels when other Jewish people or groups are wheeled out to justify an anti-Israel position predicated on the merit of their own Judaism. Your ethnic/religious background doesn't make your position valid, your arguments do.
I don't think anyone needs to be Jewish to understand that if palestinians took control of israel it will be a second holocaust. Those who deny this are in denial themselves or are ok with that.
I can’t stand seeing the Neturei Karta used as some kind of checkmate, if only people knew how insane they are 🤣. Also JVP has been ousted on many occasions to flat out lie about members being Jewish like that one “As a black man” tweet.
There's nothing wrong with what his chat is saying. You're basically arguing that Hasan censor people because people are disagreeing and getting their feelings hurt. You destiny folks only love freedom of speech/opinion and debate when it benefits you guys. Truly moronic.
Ethan is scared an all out war would lead to many dead Isreali's, while forgetting about 10k dead civilians on the Palestine side. Hypocrisy and racism bread out of ignorance. Comedians/entertainers like Ethan should stick to their Howard Stern knockoff podcast and silly videos.
No, in fact it seems like he is unhappy with his own chat about its behavior, but the mods literally can't work fast enough to stop them. If anything he's trying to make it better and assume he paid no attention to it, that wouldn't mean he's accountable for it either
@zacharyleduc5392 what's your definition of "unhinged"? Destiny fans literally don't think for themselves lmao, so glad I left that community. Did he use the word "unhinged" lmao? Personally if I were a multi million subscriber youtuber that's highly successfull I wouldn't be crying about 16 year old discord mods that don't like me.
I think this is all islams fault . This is jihad. Islamic scriptures clearly states islam cannot dominate till the time jew exist. This is literally why muslim have no problem who killed the highest Palestinians in record or china .
Millionaire socialist massively abusing capitalism with non transformative react content, blames everyone and everything while never admitting fault for anything he does or says. That's Hasan in a nutshell. The dude constantly talks about people should be paid for their labour then laughs and defends the fact that he walks away from his PC leaving other people's content playing for ages in which he did 0 labor for and takes all the profit.
I never really thought Hasan was a bad person, he always seemed like a pretty regular guy to me, human flaws and all. But watching him interact with Ethan is really making my opinion of Hasan go downhill. I can't imagine treating my friends that way. He comes off so unempathetic in this conversation, it makes me feel sorry for Ethan. He should dump Hasan, no one should accept this treatment from their friends.
Okay so I think the vast majority of ppl are just regular ppl without some deep seated issues mentally or their ability to feel empathy (including Hassan) but that most ppl also have a capacity to have their empathy towards specific groups or reasoning about specific topics diminished given the right conditions. If you take any person and force them to watch four hours of “moon landing is fake” content every day for theee months, most are going to become skeptical. If you take a regular nice person and make it so all their peers are hateful towards a group and all the content they engage with on the regular day in day out, they’re going to most likely have diminished empathy and negative feelings develops. I don’t know him so I could be wrong but I think Hasan probably has a neurotypical mind when it comes to compassion and critical thought, he’s just spent so much time engaging with politics in a certain way that’s encourage and normalized for him that his mind naturally drifted towards takes that are insane to anyone whose been spared the same process or was more resilient because of an emphasis on self criticism.
Really?? You never though a pro-violence anti-human ethno-socialist who hates Jews, white people and the USA at large wasn't a bad person??? LOL you must be a "progressive" ethno-socialist just like Hasan then. Do you also hate the Jews like him and his Nazi buddies too??
This really does feel like you're watching an ex friend going through an abusive relationship and they are slowly realizing their partner is a piece if shit on their own, because they don't believe what you're saying about them, because they see you as an enemy, when you just feel sorry for them. It's kinda gross how much he gets away with.
Yeah, seems like part of his argument being that "You shouldn't interpret it that way" is very similar to All Lives Matter, which you could interpret 2 ways, but Hasan is arbitrarily choosing the way that makes his side look the best. I realize this happens a lot in politics, its just wild how blatant his level of bias is.
Saying "from the river to the sea" is just a slogan about Palestinians having equal rights is like saying "Arbeit macht frei" was just a slogan about the ability of hard work to empower the individual.
And saying "Sieg Heil" is justified, because the Nazis nowadays aren't really the oppressors. Nobody likes them, they live at societies edge and no one takes them seriously, so they are kind of oppressed. So all Nazi slogans are fine now.
This feels like watching an abusive relationship where the one denies and gaslights the abused over and over again, and the abused one just doesn't understand how they keep getting to this point.
There’s no way I really just read someone in Hasan chat saying “This is why Hasan has a platform and not any of us. Because his immeasurable patience and understanding is far behind our capabilities”….. describing HASAN as even slightly patient or understanding is WILD. Let alone saying he has *IMMEASURABLE* patience and understanding. Seriously how delusional are these people? It’s legitimately concerning with just how warped and absolutely backwards their interpretations of people/events/etc. seem to be.
I agree but how are we sure we don’t see Hasan in a delusional and warped way aswell? Since a majority of this fanbase’s interactions with Hasan are through Destiny’s negative perception of him (even as legitimate his view of him is). Ultimately, I still agree with you but I would just be careful calling one side delusional and not critically examining our own side.
@@mackprime6975 Well tbh I’m not a regular Destiny watcher, just occasionally watch his content whenever a title catches my interest but I digress. Lol The point I’m getting at is that I’ve disliked Hasan long before I watch any of Destiny’s content and one of the main things that’s actually drove to start watching Destiny, were his anti-Hasan videos. Lol So I don’t “dislike Hasan because I watch Destiny”, rather it’s the opposite… I watch Destiny BECAUSE I dislike Hasan.
I was a member of Hasan's dumbass community from 2020 up until a few months ago...trust me you are not the ones with the warped views. I legit feel like I exited a cult because so many things I was blinded by/to are now super clear. Hasan is a manipulator through and through; Am I a dumbass for falling for it? Yea I probably am....that doesnt make him any less dangeous@@mackprime6975
I’m actually quite worried for the Jewish community. Seeing how open and shameless people are with their response to this conflict all while getting nothing but praise is very alarming.
For those who knew what to look for, the silent antisemitism of the left came as no surprise. The open support of terrorist acts by Muslims, neither. At least for most people here in Germany. And now that it is in the open, the german government is forced to deal with what they allowed to grow. Until now, it was easier to suppress the voices that warned about it.
If it helps keep you sane, just remember they are a tiny minority of a minority and they have panic attacks when speaking to other people even over the phone. This is all they can do and their impact in the real world is nil. Hasan's impact in the real world is also nil.
@@user-sk4ds1rg1zI'm not sure tho. He is the most popular and mainstream politics streamer no? The fact that he is so mainstream, and how really big influences don't mind networking with him and then platforming him. given that he is quite literally an extremist, sounds pretty scary to me
@@user-sk4ds1rg1z Even if we grant that is the case for 99.9%, that's still a lot of psychopaths that could continue down the extremist path and enact actual harm in the world. Hasan is a driver of human suffering no matter what the scale. That shouldn't be ignored.
It's dystopian nature is what makes it entertaining. I think Hasan knows he's so empty of actual content he let's those crazy f*cks carry him into a "kind" of relevancy. Also, it provides content for Destiny. It's a win-win.
So, it's actually CRAZY Hasan would use the argument he can't control his audience or influence it at all when every lefty creator has come for Destiny and told him he needs to do a better job controlling his audience.
They ask for liberty when they're weak, because it's according to your principles. They oppress you when they are strong, because it's according to their principles.
Not even a fan of Ethan but Jesus that was hard to watch him find out his "friend" has 0 empathy or respect for him and watching him breakdown. Just disgusting.
Yeah well I saw it coming a mile away. Ethan is not an extremist. He has some really hot leftist takes, but he is no where as bad Hasan and his pure bad faith, hateful delusion.
tbh Hasan doesn't have friends, he has people that he can climb atop of. They're just tools to him, exactly what Destiny was. He always platforms off of others, just a total grifter, and his Discord mods represent his actual beliefs and personality. You have to be a pretty shitty person to foster a community that is just outright toxic and self-destructive lol
*Is it that hard to acknowledge that the slogan, from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free, did in fact originally mean, to take over the whole of Israel, and kill all the Jews there, so perhaps it would be better to use a different slogan ?* That would be like if, make america great again, was originally started by people committing terrorist attacks against minorities, and wanted to kill them all, and then Trump supporters turned round and said, well that's not what we mean now actually. Now we just mean make it great for all people. Okay, well just change the slogan. *If what you now really mean by that slogan, is for a one state solution for example, where they all live in peace, why not say something like* "Jews and Arabs will be free, from the river to the sea" to show that you do not side with the lunatics who came up with the slogan originally. Or don't even involve the sea, part, just come up with a new slogan. Is it really that difficult, or are these people so uncreative, that they can only copy slogans made up by absolute lunatics. *The fact is, most people using that slogan probably do agree with it's original meaning, which is why they haven't changed it*
Yes it really is, but I don't like how Destiny is treating it like a highschool teenage show either, laughing of the situation even hoping for it to get worse. It goes both ways, can't be sitting here laughing of the situation, while calling Hasan disgusting.
Ethan wasn't even taking a hard stance he was just trying to share another perspective because Hasan and his community have been relentless in their rhetoric with no real concept of a pathway forward for peace. He just wanted Hasan to consider a way to peace that could be attainable but Hasan was the one unwilling to engage or help his chat see Ethan as a decent person asking questions.
Hasan cares more about his income than he does about any particular topic. He's not going to say or agree with something that might lose him fans. Honestly, I hope he just becomes a better person... the sooner the better....
@@LeiRaion I agree he's more worried about an optical loss than the feelings of what he views as a stepping stone to securing his income and not as a person and definitely not as a friend.
to an extend, but honestly, Hasan has been insane and irresponsible since the very beginning, when he started out lying about race relations in the US on the Young Turks. Ethan didn't have to invite this aids into his life
As someone who also grew up watching him, i could never imagine putting myself in the situations he does now and it makes it hard to sympathize with the guy.
@@aidanjones4067 true but the empathy still kicks in seeing a guy essentially be bullied in real time and someone pretending to be his friend telling him he deserves it.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 We finally got most of the troops out and Hasan's audience wants them to go back to do more imperialist actions. Despite all of them being opposed to imperialism. You can't make this shit up.
@willo1345 I honestly don't think most of them have fully functioning brains. It makes me sick reading his chat, knowing that there are people that dimwitted and sycophantic
2:15:54 Destiny joking that Hasan is looking up images of the fall of the Soviet Union in order to make himself cry just made me do to the loudest public laugh ive ever had. I couldnt even stop with people looking at me. 😂😂😂
No matter what your opinion on the conflict between Israel and Palestine is, it should be clear for everyone that how Hasan treats his supposed friend was just beyond cruel. I am shocked and feel with Ethan, because even in such a debate/discussion, you would expect a friend to treat you with respect. Really hope Ethan ends contact with Hasan because that was psycopathic behaviour that clearly affects Ethan deeply. Happy he has Hila and two wonderful children.
The way Hasan manipulates Ethan after the chat calls him racist, is actually terrifying. “They’re saying that because of the conflations that you made, Ethan… I can’t stop them from viewing you a certain way if you’re gonna make these comparisons that they’ve heard from actually racist people.”
@@peloleoj691 Do you know what gaslithing is? Hamasabi is *literally lying* to defend his chat and in return saying it is justified to say Ethan is racists. That is Hamasabi painting his "friend" to a very different corner that he really is in, while Ethan tries to clarify what corner he actually is in. Hamasabi lies and manipulates people with bending words to have different meanings to make himself right.
@@RanEncounter bruh, it would be gaslighting to try and convince and huge amount of people that their opinion is invalid because his one friend is offended.
anyone claiming Ethan is crying crodile tears or is a zionist has no idea who he is. This was really hard to listen to. Ethan was so genuine and open. I hope he sees not everyone is aganist him.
Hassan is a narcissist plain and simple. Not your pop culture egocentric ex boyfriend narcissist. We’re talking the boring, toxic, mind boggling narcissist
Evil too. He said he wants forced re-education if socialism took over, so that the forcefully imprisoned People do not dare go back to capitalism. Dude is literally an evil dictator at heart that hides behind trying to be some 'fair' guy. Dunno why people don't slam him to his face more when he's saying he would have them and their family imprisoned for opposing socialism. Literal villain and proves the reason people want to avoid socialism because historically it's ran by people like him.
Agree 100%. He doesn’t learn from his wrongs, he just justifies why it was okay to be wrong. His ego can’t take that he’s constantly wrong, so he lashes out at people that politely disagree with him.
Well we see that more from women now than we do from ex boyfriends so I would say ex girlfriend because every woman my bros date are like that and I warn them every time. About 10 women in and my friend finally took my advice
At this point I've just gone from feeling resentment for Ethan to feeling bad for him. He's been the epitome of good faith when having these conversations, genuinely looking to learn and understand. And he's dealing with the dictionary definition of a monolith; a great stone column that can't cede any optical ground for fear of not being the socialist lightning rod.
@@solosolo8610 I'm sure Hasan may have told you that, but I've seen plenty of what Ethan has said about the conflict, and it's generally coming from a humanistic perspective where he's been able to concede fault on both sides. Whether his points are said by other less reputable people isn't overly important for me, because I can see he isn't saying them with an agenda. This simply cannot be said of Hasan, he's ideologically bound.
I wish Ethan could read this and understand- Hasan is NOT your friend. Tragedy has brought opportunity and Hasan has seized it. Disagreeing with you Erhan is giving him content and has given him an opportunity to have a concrete opinion about something.
Yeah imagine have a difference of opinion on one of the most protracted and complicated political problems in the modern world. I mean how could all these people who agree (broadly) with Hasan be so wrroooooong?
@@drts6955dont slip the (broadly) in there. I can agree that the Palestinians are facing a humanitarian crisis while also not agreeing with most of Hasan's position. (Broadly) i agree with him but (specifically) i think he's pushing for a removal of Israel as a nation and an Arab reunification. It would be fine if he was more open about that, but his dogwhistling goes past the heads of people who are just focused on the wellbeing of Palestinians.
@@satiricgames2129 So what's the issue? That's a genuine question. I haven't heard anything so far (I haven't finished the video yet) to suggest Hasan is being awful to the point that he could not be considered a friend of Ethan despite their disagreement
@@punishedbarca761 What's Arab reunification? So Hasan wants Israel wiped from the map? As opposed to a state where Arabs and Israelis would live in liberal democracy? I do not listen to Hasan but unless there's something I'm missing that is absolutely not the impression I get. Doesn't mean he's right. A lot of these questions are hypotheticals
@@calebsalazar5268bro he was laughing as cops were executed and laughing at that woman being abducted on the motorcycle back to Gaza on Oct 7th the day it was released, hes a psychopath
@@calebsalazar5268 It's literally factual, Hasan thinks all Israelis are a valid target and would be slash is actually celebrating the targeting and murdering of Hila's family.
His chat is actually sickeningly unhinged and he truely wants us to believe he has no control, when the people also spamming the most vile shit are his own mods who he appointed.
While he's trying to explain how the pro palestinian movement as a whole doesn't call for the death of all israelis and jews, his chat is demonstrating exactly the opposite of this claim
He does, especially when he has no problem banning any dissenting opinions, which is a type of soft control. If anything ruins Cenk's campaign, it'll be because Hasan can't keep his commie grubbing fat mouth shut
I wasn't warned but grew up in terrible neighborhoods so I learned to spot those traits pretty fast. Hassan is the type of person you should never associate with even if you agreed with him.
It's so funny how his chat was saying some of the most vile shit during the convo but when Ethan started crying they all started emoting with hearts. Like they actually care.
Lovebombing. They have seen that they have an effect on Ethan and use it to try to emotionally manipulate. Hasan and his mods are unironically trying cult strats
Yeah but they actually might. These two have had weekly streams together for how long (I haven't actually checked but my understanding is that they used to have weekly streams), I can't imagine they don't care at the end of the day.
@@thanatosdriver1938so you’re saying they care about someone who they believe is a racist. Who they just partly made cry, for calling him a racist Yeah no
This entire conversation is hilarious. Ethan tried to explain why one country is a non-starter and why from the river to the sea is hurtfull for jewish people to hear. That's it. That's all he said. These are basically facts. Not even open for debate, but hasan spend the entire time trying to convince that it shouldn't be a non-starter and that jewish people shouldn't feel hurt. Meanwhile ethan conceded every single other point brought up by Hasan. It's honestly hilarious I would expect every single one of my friends to deck me immideately if i talked to them like Hasan talked to ethan and i would thank them for doing it.
I live in South Africa, Im 41 years old, I know apartheid. The ANC didnt target civilians they targeted Government Establishments. And a lot of White South Africans were against apartheid. To compare the ANC to Hamas is disgusting, It makes no sense. These are two completely different things.
Yipp to compare isreal with apartheid is also dumb but these people didn't live through it and they didn't experience that just talk about stiff they dony know i was in school during apparteid and evething that was going on its so stupid to talk like this These people know nothing
Umm what..? You can Google ANC attacks on civilians and a bunch of examples pop up. They’ve even addressed it since. Just cuz you’re from South Africa doesn’t mean you’re not ignorant on your own country’s history
Quite literally of the 71 deaths caused by the MK, the armed hand of the ANC, between 1976 to 1984 52 of them where civilians, the rest being security forces, thats 73% of the casualties
Shame on Hasan for this. This isnt something you do to your friend. He knows ethan's heart yet he keeps twisting that knife in his back. This is who Hasan has always been. Everyone warned ethan about getting involved with his ilk. Just brutal to watch. 😕
@R-502 No, dude. This is cope not consolation. Lots of these people are on my Instagram feed who I met IRL in college. They used to just be standard progressives.
@@Smoughe doesn’t take accountability for his chat even tho it’s heavily moderated and he literally cultivates his chat. He speaks to someone who is his “friend” in an extremely rude way. He can stop his chat from being straight up evil towards Ethan easily but acts like it’s impossible. He’s just a slimy snake. Most my hatred for him is just the fanbase he has created which is extremely toxic
Why not? Hasan is a GOOD PROGRESSIVE COMRADE!!! He was the BEST until everyone realized he is an actual no shit ethno-socialists who wants to genocide the Jews, a no bullshit live in the flesh Nazi. What's even better is all the average Democrats realizing that ....... they are or have ignorantly aligned themselves with actual Nazis.
I feel so bad for Ethan. Having someone you considered a friend and partner turn on you so fast with a complete lack of empathy is truly crushing. Then the guy is sitting here in failing health, and Hasan clearly doesn't give a fuck just because Ethan sympathizes with the Israeli people. From Ethans point of view, it's gotta feel like Hasan is a massive racist and Jew hater. Especially when Hasan's fans ruthlessly attack Ethan and he just goes "Well maybe if you weren't so dumb." He's basically endorsing and enabling his fans to attack Ethan.
it goes both ways, destiny double downed and even when trihex confronted him and said he genuinelly didn't like it, destiny didnt budge. in this context it's the same as hasan turning against ethan for his take and likewise when ethan confronts hasan he doesn't budge@@yellowbrand
its like saying ethan turned against hasan because of his hamas take, you can say that or you can say hasan turned against ethan because of his take, you can spin it however u want depending on ur bias@@yellowbrand
Dont feel bad. Ethan deserves this after years and years of grifting and attacking people for the smallest thing. Jordan Peterson warned Ethan what would happen if he goes grifting to extremist.
Man I miss the days when Hasan was just dragged into discord whenever he had a bad take. Accountability is non existent nowadays, literally nobody keeps his ass in check
Hasan and his community are such clowns. Those people who write "based" in the chat after the Hamas statement clip are the same ones who have a mental breakdown if somebody misgenders somebody. His community is exactly what I think represents the "Queers for Palestine" movement.
So one random jew saying from the river to the sea can represent the group, but a spokesman from Hamas is not the opinion of Hamas? Did I get this right?
@@TurtleChad1nah fam. Decent people can see that Hasan is a bully. There is no place in history where an Islam majority state has been secular, or treated Jews as NOT second class citizens. It’s never happened.
The IDF is too busy destroying a terrorist organisation to care about creating bots, unlike the overwhelmingly amount of palestinian bots I see online . They're literally everywhere@@TurtleChad1
Ethan has pissed me off for many things over the years, but I'm riding with him on this. This poor guy doesn't look well either. I hope he's healthy along with his family as well.
@@oldgrendel you left that part out of your first answer, and it seems the person was asking genuinely. Thank you for explaining, but I think that’s all was necessary 😅
Because that's the audience he cultivated. He was warned by multiple people that he'd eventually step out of line and be eaten alive by his own viewers. He didn't listen.
As someone who follows Ethan, most of his fans are apolitical and want him to just shut up about the whole situation. He just has a very loud minority of Hasan-heads that follow him and make his life a nightmare
kid: dad can we go to the park? hasan: there are many types of parks for example, public parks which consist of regional, national, community and more. People would say parks are typically safe; when parks are used by many people, there are more eyes on the street. Now, in terms of health, children who spend time outside are more physically active and have higher brain activity.
@@junioralvarado629exactly, I can understand the argument that an online personality isn't responsible for the actions of their audience, and I would generally side with that except in extreme circumstances. But Hasan would certainly not take that position for anyone he disagrees with only slightly.
Destiny hit the nail on why hasan was squirming so much around the clip of that hamas leader calling for an isrealian genocide. Because he knew his chat would get called out by ethan, he muddied the clip being played uninterrupted but you can still see his chat agreeing with the terrorist
As an israeli, this comment section is so refreshing to see. I have never seen so many people call out people like hasan on their bullshit! Thank you guys. Seriously.
Maybe this is stupid but if you really are israeli I want to say something. Not all turks are like that or think like that. I am also turkish and I support you really hard. I get if you guys don't trust us anymore but please a lot of turks support you. You just can not see them. Israel and jewish people around the world will win. Never again is now. I know.
@@gozigoz5727 this is far from stupid! Thank you for this comment, i appriciate it a lot. Israelis were really dissappointed from the statements made by the turkish government, bceuase israel has quite a strong connection to turkey. My parents arent even turkish but they went on their honeymoon to turkey! One of my favorite influencers is an ethnically turkish swedish citizen and posted a story about how coca cola should be boycotted for "suppirting genocide". I unfollowed quite a lot of influencers that made my day a while back lately, but i dont mind it much. They made me happy, now they made me sad. Thats life i guess. Anyways, i try not to take it to heart, i cant live without burekas anyways.
@@gozigoz5727 I felt really angry watching ardugan's speech and his supporters after Israel consistently sent aid and military to help when the earthquacke occured, but I am now immedietly calm again and hopeful.
Hasan couldn’t even take the time to tell his chat to chill once. Ethan asked like 10 times if he has moderators not knowing the mods are more insane than Hasan.
Bring Ethan on, rebuild his confidence. Let him know he is not alone and not hated, regardless of whether you agree with his views. If you hadn't propped up Hasan this wouldn't be happening, he wouldn't be a blip on the radar. Like it or not; you have a debt to pay.
And Hasan apparently has no control of what his community says about Ethan....unless they say he is being reasonable, then they are permabanned and the mods can completely get that nonsense outta here.
I feel SO sorry for Ethan. He seems like an actual, genuinely good person who is trying so hard to do and say all the right things and stand by his principles. I used to be a Hasan fan, and after all of this, I'm just disgusted by Hasan. I hope this is a wakeup call for Ethan that Hasan is NOT his friend.
@@lukaswithakay Yep, unfortunately he and others like him didn't fully understand that "choice", and that it could ever come back to bite them like it has.
There is overwhelming evidence that the system instituted by the Israeli government against the Palestinian people meets the UN definition of apartheid. In effect, Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory constitute one territorial unit under full Israeli control. Palestinians constitute around half of the total population (inside Israel and in the oPt), yet under Israeli law, and in practice, Jewish Israelis and Palestinians are treated differently in almost every aspect of life: housing, education, health, employment, family life, residence, and freedom of movement. Dozens of Israeli laws and policies institutionalise this prevailing system of racial discrimination and domination. Segregation is carried out by implementing separate legal regimes for Jewish Israelis and Palestinians living in the same area. In the occupied West Bank, Jewish Israeli settlers living in illegal settlements are governed by Israeli civil law, while Palestinians also living in the West Bank are governed by Israeli military law. In Israel itself, there exists no ‘Israeli’ nationality shared by all citizens, Jewish and non-Jewish alike. Rather, citizens are divided into ‘national’ categories of ‘Jewish’, which affords them a set of rights and privileges above the other categories, or ‘Arab’ with comparatively restricted rights and privileges. This separation was reiterated when Israel passed the Nation State Law in 2018, essentially codifying decades of discrimination and enshrining two classes of citizens in law. Israel carries out various acts that are prohibited by the UN Apartheid Convention including: Forcible transfer of Palestinians to make way for illegal Israeli settlements. Preventing Palestinians from returning to their homes and lands (including millions of refugees living in exile). Systematic and severe deprivation of fundamental human rights of Palestinians based on their identity. Denying Palestinians their right to freedom of movement and residence (especially, but not limited to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip). Murder, torture, unlawful imprisonment and other severe deprivation of physical liberty. Persecution of Palestinians because of their opposition to apartheid.
I love how Ethan has become their villain when he said he's anti Zionist every time they talk about the topic and continues to dissavow what Israel is doing every step of the way. They have no charitability in their body.
“What Israel is doing is bad, and I don’t like Zionism, this is just complicated and you can’t convince Israel to give up their borders” “Zionist. Fascist. Racist. You support genocide.” It’s like pulling teeth bro. There’s just no goddamn nuance left.
Cuz while Destiny has some sociopathic tendencies (like most people with any sort of power) he isnt a full blown one. Now Hasan is, he is just morally lucky and on the good side of things about 60% of the time he cant follow the logic of how he gets to his positions and where they lead when extrapolated while reciting talking points from other people on the same wave length. He is just badempanada with higher self awareness.
Holy shit, Ethan is a saint for enduring this this patiently. Hassan's arguments are clearly untenable and he keep slithering around the hard hitting questions... just props to Ethan, i would've lost my mind if i was in his place.
i feel really bad for ethan . Without taking his point in consideration ( which is a pretty fair point ) , it hurts to see a guy being basically bullied by a person that he tought was his friend . Ethan might not be the smartest or the most informed but he doesnt deserve this treatment .
@@orenju465 he is not straigh up being bullied in the classic way , you know " you are fat , KYS " type of shit . His way is way more subtle , 1 )first of all Hasan is clearly trying to gaslit Ethan , Ethan has been struggling with his understanting of the situation and hasan is desperately trying to make him feel like his ( completely fair point ) is racist and stupid 2) Secondly and most importantly , its fun/sad to see a person like Hasan that bitched a lot about the harrasment that was pushing him to depression or suicide being completly stupid in not understanding that putting the H3 community , his community and himself against Ethan is clearly having a big mental tool on him . I mean we could say that he is not acting like a bully , but definitely he is not acting like a guy that proclaims to be your friend
I don't think he's the most informed but he's definitely smart. Although I think his leftie arc has fucked with his brain to be loyal to a side instead of his own beliefs. Until now, because this is something that is extremely important to him.
I know the feeling, watching people fucking with each other on these online spaces was quite therapeutic for me, cause it made me realize what were the cheap manipulation methods practiced by narcissist people from my own family and friend groups. I'm glad I see it now clearly, but it worries me a lot how common it is. People gaslight each other just to win a fucking argument and they do it like it's nothing.
@@Thorvald9666He's also lying about not being able to moderate them too, dude will insta ban anyone who mentions destiny he could easily do the same for people attacking Ethan he just chooses not to.
Dude Hassan uses genocide so loosely. It's crazy. Anytime people die or are in a bad situation, it's genocidal. You know that term has an actual definition, right?
We, all us ultra-extreme-far REICH wingers.... also known as liberals have been telling him what "progressives" are for years..... like most Democrats who didn't know what ethno-socialism really was he didn't want to listen. Anyone who didn't toe the ethno-socialist hating white males for being born white and male was a RACIST!!! AND A SEXIST!!! Unlike the good progressives who hate white males for being born white and male. The writing was on the wall clear as day for anyone who wasn't chugging the Nazi Kool-Aid. 😉 They're literal Nazis telling him they want to genocide his family and people off the face of the planet and he's STILL DESPERATELY LICKING THEIR BOOTS. How can you feel bad for someone like that?? A Jew desperately sucking Nazi scholong anywhere he can get it isn't worth your sympathy.
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Ethan: *compares Hamas and its defenders to the worst racists*
Hamas Fans: "Ethan is the REAL racist!"
"I like to bridge the gap"... proceeds to throw gasoline on drama
Pretty sure Ethan's numbers are wrong but not that far off. Jews are 3.4% of the US population but consist of marginally more than 50% of hate crime victims.
Perhaps Ethan has numbers that include the recent uptick that I don't.
I hope it is. That show was shit.
There is overwhelming evidence that the system instituted by the Israeli government against the Palestinian people meets the UN definition of apartheid.
In effect, Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory constitute one territorial unit under full Israeli control. Palestinians constitute around half of the total population (inside Israel and in the oPt), yet under Israeli law, and in practice, Jewish Israelis and Palestinians are treated differently in almost every aspect of life: housing, education, health, employment, family life, residence, and freedom of movement. Dozens of Israeli laws and policies institutionalise this prevailing system of racial discrimination and domination.
Segregation is carried out by implementing separate legal regimes for Jewish Israelis and Palestinians living in the same area. In the occupied West Bank, Jewish Israeli settlers living in illegal settlements are governed by Israeli civil law, while Palestinians also living in the West Bank are governed by Israeli military law.
In Israel itself, there exists no ‘Israeli’ nationality shared by all citizens, Jewish and non-Jewish alike. Rather, citizens are divided into ‘national’ categories of ‘Jewish’, which affords them a set of rights and privileges above the other categories, or ‘Arab’ with comparatively restricted rights and privileges. This separation was reiterated when Israel passed the Nation State Law in 2018, essentially codifying decades of discrimination and enshrining two classes of citizens in law.
Israel carries out various acts that are prohibited by the UN Apartheid Convention including:
Forcible transfer of Palestinians to make way for illegal Israeli settlements.
Preventing Palestinians from returning to their homes and lands (including millions of refugees living in exile).
Systematic and severe deprivation of fundamental human rights of Palestinians based on their identity.
Denying Palestinians their right to freedom of movement and residence (especially, but not limited to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip).
Murder, torture, unlawful imprisonment and other severe deprivation of physical liberty.
Persecution of Palestinians because of their opposition to apartheid.
Hassan calling Ethan emotional because Ethan cried twice.
Hassan, you know the anger you constantly display on screen is an emotion too, right?
THIS!!!! idk why people, and it seems like most often men, dont equate anger to emotionality.
@@mq7wnmanipulative people in general. It’s only emotional if someone else is doing it lol
Its more like, its a common trait for men to be somewhat "aggressive" and calling that emotional would be to say that men lose their normal logical thinking when they act aggressive, which just isn't the case. It would be called emotional from a females standpoint, because anger doesn't "help" them in a survival sense and is an emotional response rather than a logical one. @@mq7wn
@@mq7wnit is crazy! The red pill people will use the same argument. “Women Are emotional bc they cry.” And then the red pillers show anger or yell at guests. Like anger is an emotion too dude!
@@CactusBranniganHassan would now all about emotional manipulation
The fact Hasan cannot take accountability for his audience is fucking wild to me.
He does it all the time, he’s the ceo of all caps raging at chat and perma banning people who disagree with him. He just doesn’t care about Ethan
@@LiamLovesMetalyep its funny how he can do it when someone insults or triggers him but won't extend that to his "friends"
@@alejammi cause they were never friends you think hasan would defend ethan or throw him in front the bus when time came..actually we can see what he did. they were allies due to circumstances, and ethan is realizing he had friends who criticized him but cared about him and traded them in for allies that enable you, until your no longer useful
And he constantly shits on people because of what their viewers do as well. But apparently other people are accountable for their viewers but hasan is an exception
I got perma banned faster than light for saying the IDF did not bomb the hospital lol
"We can't be racist because we're correct"
This would get an F in debate class
Debate bros are dumb asf. That does not matter
My position: correct and morally righteous
Your position: Evil and gay
Hasan and his community are such clowns. Those people who write "based" in the chat after the Hamas statement clip are the same ones who have a mental breakdown if somebody misgenders somebody. His community is exactly what I think represents the "Queers for Palestine" movement.
to be fair to hassan even if he doesn’t deserve it, he is differentiating zionism from judaism, and he believes the current zionist structure to be unjust so rectifying that with what he perceives to be a solution that collapses the “apartheid” structure wouldn’t be antisemitism, it would be anti zionism and therefore saying “from the river to the sea” isn’t antisemitic, though in practicality i don’t think it works i don’t think most people using the phrase are calling for the death of jews or the ethnic cleansing of isrealis. they are calling for an unrealistic solution where palestinians and isrealis live in one state and have equal rights in peace with eachother
"But they DO commit 50% of the violent crimes."
Ethan is so careful with his wording, underlining time and time again that he's just trying to be realistic about the situation. How is he being bad faith? What does good faith look like to these people?
Not agreeing with every word.
Ethan made his bed when he treated others in the same manner.
"Good faith" to them is "Complete, unquestioning agreement with everything I say or do"
@@Mr.YasQueen I get what you're saying but in this specific instance he is acting straight.
@@miri745 Sure but like I said he made his bed. He didn't give other people grace when they were trying their best, so now he's in the position, it's no surprise people aren't spilling tears over him.
I feel bad for Ethan. He's literally right yet his own community is so condescending towards him, ignores everything he says and tries to feed him instagram propaganda. I would love for him to talk to Destiny. This community has sadly been far more supportive of him than his own.
Ethan and Destiny will never happen. This community acts psychotic in hopes they end their friendship. I'm sure he's probably aware of it.
Jordan Peterson warned Ethan years ago about the audience he was cultivating. Love him or hate him, Jordan was prophetic.
That's because half his community are Hasan bots.
@@killer3000ad the people who needed to listen to Dr. Peterson the most are the people who mock him.
@@boj353boy I'd much rather Hasan just becomes a better person.
Hasan: i cant control how they view you
Also Hasan: *bans people immediately when Destiny is mentioned*
At the start of the video, it highlighted someone getting banned for supporting Ethan. I feel like if that clip can be sent to Ethan, he can question Hasan.
So you can't get your moderators to ban people who are wrongfully calling me a racist.
But your moderators can ban people who are in support of what I am saying?
Incredibly funny that Hasan claims to not be able to control the chat when he is completely willing to control them against Ethan.
Clearly Hasan no longer thinks of Ethan as a friend (if he ever did), but does not want Ethan to know that, and wants him to still think of them as friends so he can milk the friendship to gain ground in the argument.
The one guy just said "Ethan is making a lot of sense here" and got permabanned lmao. If that isn't lowkey controlling how your viewers see you idk what is.
@@twistedumbrella7537 Its not about gaining ground in any argument its about gaining clout. That is literally all that matters to Hasan
Didn't Hassan make some points about the n-word saga and how it was reprehensible that destiny was standing a moral position over his friend's personal feelings? Did he try to make some point about how being an ideologue and having what might be the technical moral position is not a good reason to disregard others feelings? I could be making this up but I keep having this feeling That was a claim of his at some point...
@@SilverYPheonix No, its not "lowkey", its BLATENTLY controlling how your viewers see you
Hasan on empathy.
Ethan: Please can you just empathize with me.
Hasan: I am, by educating you and telling you your wrong.
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Also Hasan
Ethan: Your mods are sending antisemetic and disgusting things to me.
Hasan: You need to empathize with their feelings, they're just emotional you need to suck it up.
More than anything, this is the most egregious thing I've seen Hasan do. All Ethan was asking for was Hasan to show the tiniest bit of empathy for what he said and he does nothing, he let's his fans say the most vile shit to Ethan. Left his FRIEND to wolves. If you cant show some empathy for a 'friend' how could i expect you to have any at all.
Its even more ironic beause Hasan basically tells ethan he is to emotional to talk about this lol but pro palestinian people aren't.
Making his friend cry and then insinuating he's a pussy and needs to be handled with the "kiddie gloves" 5 minutes later is so abusive, it makes me cringe to call it abuse but god damn that is fucked. Also Hasan claiming he experienced daily bombings growing up in Turkey is wild, not to mention the "you fell for my trap card" smirk he does when says it, trying his hardest to dunk on his Ethan. I pray everyday that Sam Hyde will be able to complete his promise
I'm curious about those bombings because wasn't he a literal rich kid who played fucking polo as a kid? And I'm pretty sure Turkey wasn't like that. There were more bombings in fucking Italy.
Saying he experienced daily bombings or at the same rate as Israel/palestine is fking wild. I live in Greece which is a neighbouring country to Turkey and that’s just plain wrong. He probably saw them on tv 2-3 times
nothing more disgusting than a rich kid cosplaying real life struggles
It's weird too. I went to Turkey around this time as well. No one ever told me there was any civil unrest, any bombings, anything. My understanding is that Turkey was actually fairly stable and prosperous at the time he was growing up there and only became more violent since then, but even then, it's still fairly tame by middle Eastern standards. This is kind of like arguing that I experienced daily planes being flown into towers because I lived in America during 9/11. I mean, I didn't technically live in America at the time, but even if I did, it makes no sense to say that you experienced daily bombings from Istanbul if they are going off on the other side of the country. Just kind of silly. If Istanbul was getting bombed all of the time, I would have seen it when I went there, or at least, the after-effects.
And then continues to nibble on food made by his Father like a spoiked entitled brat.
Hassan, “Do, I care? What do you mean do I care, what a stupid question, of course Zionists don’t care about Palestinians.”
Ethan's wife personally participated in ethnic cleansing
hasan using a whataboutism? no way or is this just a standard deflective answering of a different question he uses?
Base line: he didn't answer the question
It's great watching Ethan realize what everyone else already knew about Hasan in real time.
idk he keeps assuring that he and hasan are good friends
notice.. Ethans both physical and mental health has been collapsing in rapid rate.
@@TespriI’ll say he looks physically better than he has in the past, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s declining again
hissan 🐍 and pokimane are snakes
@@Jahsiah-n woah bro slow down, she might call you a spooky scary incel!
Kinda crazy that Hasan will pretend that he can't manage his community when he treats Destiny like Voldermort, never mentions his name, bans all discussion and refuses to respond to his content. Feels like Hasan is just waiting for Ethan to burn his bridge so he can mask off shit on him relentlessly like he has done to others
Aren’t twitch streamers responsible for their chat as well? If they say enti Semitic things and hasan refuses to do anything about that that can be bannable
@R-502100% Don’t forget “Zionist”
@R-502 As children dump their parents accounts just saying "Based" over and over.
@R-502 Which is funny because Hasan himself is a Capitalist pig in practice lmao
No no, Hasan isn’t simply saying he can’t moderate the chat.
He’s saying the chat is right for what they’re saying. He’s endorsing it.
🤦🏼♀️
The collective is everything, democratic popularity makes it right..... that's the "progressive" way......LOL
This shouldn’t shock you. Him and his fans are on a whole new level of stupid.
@@darkgardener9577that's projection. The Democratic party and lefties in general cannot stop eating each other. Hasan just a tankie and so is his audience.
Who needs enemies when you have friends like Hasan...
the correct pronoun is allies, they were never friends and thats why allies as a term exists, cause allies means your together against an enemy until said alliance is no longer needed
lol what do you know about their friendship, I hope they stay strong despite the differences in opinion that they are allowed to have. And talking about enemies, I'm pretty sure Destiny has called Hasan every name possible, he probably does it daily. Thank god Hasan is not as big of a baby and doesn't react to the stalker.
@@boj353boyyeah, he needs to save his energy to be a screaming baby to his chat and whoever he can have power over. 😂
@@boj353boy yeah because he's too busy "stalking" Ben Shapiro 😂😂😂
@bojan353 you're right, his energy is much better spent poorly representing Trans issues and then going on a transphobic tyrade against a Trans chatter when they give valid criticism, claiming he hopes every day is as miserable as today is for them.
Ethan: Trying to explain how using a small group of people as tokens doesn't change the meaning behind a slogan
Hasan: "OMG Ethan stop doing that, you're making yourself look horrible right now" as a dog whistle to his audience to start calling Ethan racist
hasan is so shady. still not sure if ethan realizes it or not. feels like ethan is giving hasan so much benefit of the doubt, and hasan gives none in return.
All I was thinking about was MAGA😅
@@JustN0tMe How the hell is this akin to maga?
It was a total dog whistle
Omg that's Sooo true! He literally did that, and he didn't even had to explain why ... That's bc he is not a 'debate pervert', he doesn't arguments, just a group who will bully you to agree with him 👍👍👍
The more I see of Hasan, the more I become convinced he's a sociopath.
He's Homelander
@@rb-up6pm very good comparison
@@rb-up6pm turkishhomelander.jpg
he is a moron driven by ideology
He's not a sociopath, he's a middle eastern nationalist. Non-middle eastern deaths do not register as human loss to him.
Dude can’t even convince his own chat to not shit on his friends but somehow he think he can convince Israel to abandon their border
Border? You mean militarised wall armed with AI controlled machine guns. The most brutal border on the whole entire planet? So extreme even republicans have struggled to cross that line? That border yes?
It's not Israel border
@@alexandrahenderson4368
Is it Yomama's border then?
Heard some country was really getting fat. ;)
He does regularly says don't send hate
@@alexandrahenderson4368It is, and no amount of pretending from the left or t3rrorist attacks will change it.
It’s so sad Ethan gets treated like this, they literally lived in Israel, it must be really sad to see someone you thought was a friend running defense for those calling Ethan racist or a genocide supporter etc in his chat
That’s what happens when you play their game. He is now finding out firsthand why he was warned not to play identity politics. Because you don’t own the ideas the ideas own you.
@@triston5540 facts, ethan was an edgy boy, the trimmed the edge said peterson bad, then said ben shaprio should be the last jew into the chamber to experience the loss due to voting for trump, and not ethan has no friends, cause hasan doesnt care about friends he care about allies. and allies can become enemies real quick...
Imagine being friends with leftists. They're so fake. Impossible to get close with someone whose whole personality is "I have all the right (socially acceptable) opinions! And if you don't, fffffffuckyou!" Every interaction is an endless purity test.
Eh, I have limited to zero sympathy for Ethan, he cultivated this audience and invited this world to him. Just because he has a little more sense than some of the others doesn't mean he's a good guy that did nothing wrong.
so he participated and partook in colonialism, apartheid, and supporting a terrorist state? Why are we sad again?
Hasan: I feel like it's important to compare this to other historical events
Also Hasan: YOU CANT SAY THIS IS LIKE WHAT THE NAZIS DID
Lol comparing jews for peace to jews to supported nazis WAS stupid on Ethan's part. And definetly qualifies for false equivalence
@@ranjeetabhardwaj6024He wasn’t saying it was equal. You can compare stuff to prove a point.
@@ranjeetabhardwaj6024 you failed
@@ranjeetabhardwaj6024 Except it isn. Jews for peace wants to get rid of the state of israel wich would lead to a jewish genocide so its actually the same thing like when jews supported hitler both are useful idiots.
I like how Hasan uses Ireland as an example of why the 1-state solution would work. A literal two state solution.
Also the parties involved were a lot closer in moral frameworks because of Christianity than Hamas and the Israelis are. Shit got real bad with the IRA but there was still underlying common ground.
This is the reason Hasan is an idiot. He uses irrelevant and disconnected points to make batshit insane arguments. He thinks because he's bringing up Ireland he had some unique take, but no one else brings up Ireland because it's completely irrelevant
Being of Irish decent it's a really bad comparison
@@MultiSpeedMetal imagine a Third Intifada under those conditions
@marmite_popsicle I might be wrong on this. I'm not strong with Irish history, but I don't think the borders were ever hard closed like Gaza is.
How disgusting his chat is. They were absolutely evil to ethan and then when they were a part of making him cry, they gaslight him into thinking they care. Absolutely EVIL behaviour.
His cult is evil.
destinys fans photoshop the chat in hasans stream to push they are racist towards jews and destiny are the reason why ethan believed the shit about the chat which destiny himself believed yet not corrected.. which hasan disproved on stream by showing the chat logs of those in the screenshot. and ya reddit fan deleted the post after
go see any chat when you host someone that they disagree with and you will see that people aren't that much different , it's all about how they see you .
@@peloleoj691 so that justifies harassment and bullying? it sounds like there's a serious problem with streamers and streaming culture.
Hasan's chat are the most hateful out of all chats, absolutely disgusting people.
Not evil....standard "progressive" Democrat. IF you don't toe their political line they will do you dirty.....what else do you expect from ethno-socialist who want to genocide the Jews?? They're literally Nazis.
Memes aside, I'm actually worried about Ethan's health. It really looks like all of what's happening is seriously affecting him.
*_What goes around, comes around. He chose this path, and went out of his way to ostracize anyone that warned him not to. He gets absolutely no sympathy from me._*
@@kevindiegod that's so cringe though.
@@kevindiethat kind of thinking is what creates the never ending cycle that we dislike so much. You have to fall, fail, fuckup and learn in order to change. But it also requires us to accept those who have learned their lesson, to undo some of the damage that's been done. But only when someone's truly learned.
You mate.@@kevindie
It’s flu season and Covid season. I’m sure it’s just a virus
The thing that seems so wack about all this is Hasan taking this "let me teach you the way of the world in Israel and what jews think etc." tone while Ethan is actually jewish and has spent years in Israel. How does everyone think it's appropriate for Hasan to act like he's explaining basics to someone with actual lived experiences
Lived experiences only matters if your skin is dark
@user-gc1wj8tt2p you hit the nail on the head. Imagine a slider where you change the color of your skin and as you get darker you get more buffs
If it was a different group he wouldn’t. Leftists pick and choose who is bad and good based on what their hive mind decides for that month.
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p ding ding ding!
Hasan calling someone else bloodthirsty is CRAZY
Also you dont get to act smug when you are putting exactly zero effort into putting forth pragmatic solutions. Hasan is just an edgy teenager with middle fingers crossed over his heart.
Person says something true that could be interpreted as supporting war, somehow: Bloodthirsty!
Person says something supporting murders by terrorists: Well, there are 2 schools of thought about this
I honestly do not understand how someone supports him. He's in a conversation with a jew that openly admits that the palestinians are wronged, but he can't get further than pushing for one state (which is a non-starter as pointed out early by ethan) and arguing why jews shouldn't be in their feelings about "from the river to the sea". That's literally the whole conversation.
Both of them could have talked to a wall with the same outcome.
i honestly don't understand why someone does not support integration at this point@@leefswgoh7558
I can’t believe I feel bad for Ethan, he seems so genuine and sad here. It’s like he knows this relationship is dead.
from what Ive seen Ethan is generally a pretty sincere and genuine person
Same
@@NixVichenever would I thought I would ever see this comment
@@NixVicheHe's not. Trust me, Ethan has been 10+ years on the internet.
@@kamikazelombardo way to generalize. I think you’re wrong. But hey, opinions are like asses.
As a Jewish person, I can fully empathize with the frustration Ethan feels when other Jewish people or groups are wheeled out to justify an anti-Israel position predicated on the merit of their own Judaism.
Your ethnic/religious background doesn't make your position valid, your arguments do.
To top it all off, most people in JVP (amongst others) aren't even Jewish.
im an aussie jewiish leftits and yup
I don't think anyone needs to be Jewish to understand that if palestinians took control of israel it will be a second holocaust. Those who deny this are in denial themselves or are ok with that.
Isn't that what Ethan *is* in this weird relationship with Hasan?
I can’t stand seeing the Neturei Karta used as some kind of checkmate, if only people knew how insane they are 🤣. Also JVP has been ousted on many occasions to flat out lie about members being Jewish like that one “As a black man” tweet.
Because of conversations like this, Hasan is 100% accountable for what his unhinged chat believes.
There's nothing wrong with what his chat is saying. You're basically arguing that Hasan censor people because people are disagreeing and getting their feelings hurt. You destiny folks only love freedom of speech/opinion and debate when it benefits you guys. Truly moronic.
Ethan is scared an all out war would lead to many dead Isreali's, while forgetting about 10k dead civilians on the Palestine side. Hypocrisy and racism bread out of ignorance. Comedians/entertainers like Ethan should stick to their Howard Stern knockoff podcast and silly videos.
No, in fact it seems like he is unhappy with his own chat about its behavior, but the mods literally can't work fast enough to stop them. If anything he's trying to make it better and assume he paid no attention to it, that wouldn't mean he's accountable for it either
Did you miss the part where the mods were being just as unhinged?
@zacharyleduc5392 what's your definition of "unhinged"? Destiny fans literally don't think for themselves lmao, so glad I left that community. Did he use the word "unhinged" lmao?
Personally if I were a multi million subscriber youtuber that's highly successfull I wouldn't be crying about 16 year old discord mods that don't like me.
In fairness to Hasan, it took him almost 5 minutes to blame American foreign policy. That’s got to be a record for him.
Credit where credit’s due
To be fair americans have donated shit ton of money to Israel and has literally been the puppet for Israel since after ww2.
Giving our tax dollars to Israel is American policy, wym?
I think this is all islams fault . This is jihad. Islamic scriptures clearly states islam cannot dominate till the time jew exist. This is literally why muslim have no problem who killed the highest Palestinians in record or china .
Millionaire socialist massively abusing capitalism with non transformative react content, blames everyone and everything while never admitting fault for anything he does or says. That's Hasan in a nutshell. The dude constantly talks about people should be paid for their labour then laughs and defends the fact that he walks away from his PC leaving other people's content playing for ages in which he did 0 labor for and takes all the profit.
I never really thought Hasan was a bad person, he always seemed like a pretty regular guy to me, human flaws and all. But watching him interact with Ethan is really making my opinion of Hasan go downhill. I can't imagine treating my friends that way. He comes off so unempathetic in this conversation, it makes me feel sorry for Ethan. He should dump Hasan, no one should accept this treatment from their friends.
Okay so I think the vast majority of ppl are just regular ppl without some deep seated issues mentally or their ability to feel empathy (including Hassan) but that most ppl also have a capacity to have their empathy towards specific groups or reasoning about specific topics diminished given the right conditions. If you take any person and force them to watch four hours of “moon landing is fake” content every day for theee months, most are going to become skeptical. If you take a regular nice person and make it so all their peers are hateful towards a group and all the content they engage with on the regular day in day out, they’re going to most likely have diminished empathy and negative feelings develops. I don’t know him so I could be wrong but I think Hasan probably has a neurotypical mind when it comes to compassion and critical thought, he’s just spent so much time engaging with politics in a certain way that’s encourage and normalized for him that his mind naturally drifted towards takes that are insane to anyone whose been spared the same process or was more resilient because of an emphasis on self criticism.
Really?? You never though a pro-violence anti-human ethno-socialist who hates Jews, white people and the USA at large wasn't a bad person??? LOL you must be a "progressive" ethno-socialist just like Hasan then. Do you also hate the Jews like him and his Nazi buddies too??
Hasan !! Most of the muslim think this way or is far more extreme not less.
Don't expect to eradicate terrorism without eradicating is-lame.
Seems like a sociopath to me. He latches onto people to reach a larger audience or to ease his boredom. Then he does this.
I'm in the same boat but my opinion of him is literally in the trash now especially after the willymacshow debate
What Hassan is doing to Ethan, the brazen way he’s treating him, is legitimately emotional abuse.
A reason he's still single.
Lol 😂.
Pretty much lol
Why the witch hunt language? If that is your standards for what constitutes abuse then you could go after Destiny too
@@RedrumZombiesI was just about to say that lol!
This really does feel like you're watching an ex friend going through an abusive relationship and they are slowly realizing their partner is a piece if shit on their own, because they don't believe what you're saying about them, because they see you as an enemy, when you just feel sorry for them.
It's kinda gross how much he gets away with.
As sad as it is, Ethan acted like this towards his old friends as well. It karma at this point
he cant keep getting away with this.
Yeah, seems like part of his argument being that "You shouldn't interpret it that way" is very similar to All Lives Matter, which you could interpret 2 ways, but Hasan is arbitrarily choosing the way that makes his side look the best. I realize this happens a lot in politics, its just wild how blatant his level of bias is.
@@brotbrotsen1100100%
Saying "from the river to the sea" is just a slogan about Palestinians having equal rights is like saying "Arbeit macht frei" was just a slogan about the ability of hard work to empower the individual.
And saying "Sieg Heil" is justified, because the Nazis nowadays aren't really the oppressors. Nobody likes them, they live at societies edge and no one takes them seriously, so they are kind of oppressed. So all Nazi slogans are fine now.
And "They will not replace us!" just means we're all going to live together and Noone has to go.
This feels like watching an abusive relationship where the one denies and gaslights the abused over and over again, and the abused one just doesn't understand how they keep getting to this point.
There’s no way I really just read someone in Hasan chat saying “This is why Hasan has a platform and not any of us. Because his immeasurable patience and understanding is far behind our capabilities”….. describing HASAN as even slightly patient or understanding is WILD. Let alone saying he has *IMMEASURABLE* patience and understanding. Seriously how delusional are these people? It’s legitimately concerning with just how warped and absolutely backwards their interpretations of people/events/etc. seem to be.
Bunch of indoctrinated kids. Pretty sad
I agree but how are we sure we don’t see Hasan in a delusional and warped way aswell? Since a majority of this fanbase’s interactions with Hasan are through Destiny’s negative perception of him (even as legitimate his view of him is). Ultimately, I still agree with you but I would just be careful calling one side delusional and not critically examining our own side.
@@mackprime6975That fact we’re reflecting on that question, is a sign we’re not the warped ones.
@@mackprime6975 Well tbh I’m not a regular Destiny watcher, just occasionally watch his content whenever a title catches my interest but I digress. Lol The point I’m getting at is that I’ve disliked Hasan long before I watch any of Destiny’s content and one of the main things that’s actually drove to start watching Destiny, were his anti-Hasan videos. Lol So I don’t “dislike Hasan because I watch Destiny”, rather it’s the opposite… I watch Destiny BECAUSE I dislike Hasan.
I was a member of Hasan's dumbass community from 2020 up until a few months ago...trust me you are not the ones with the warped views. I legit feel like I exited a cult because so many things I was blinded by/to are now super clear. Hasan is a manipulator through and through; Am I a dumbass for falling for it? Yea I probably am....that doesnt make him any less dangeous@@mackprime6975
I’m actually quite worried for the Jewish community. Seeing how open and shameless people are with their response to this conflict all while getting nothing but praise is very alarming.
For those who knew what to look for, the silent antisemitism of the left came as no surprise. The open support of terrorist acts by Muslims, neither.
At least for most people here in Germany. And now that it is in the open, the german government is forced to deal with what they allowed to grow.
Until now, it was easier to suppress the voices that warned about it.
The only silver lining of this is that the antisemites are exposing their true beliefs
i won’t let anything bad happen
holy shit thank god, we have the man that would simply intervene @@illuminatiop745
@@illuminatiop745 thank you shpinman
Looking at Hasan's chat is really scary, like its so far into the deep end its insane.
If it helps keep you sane, just remember they are a tiny minority of a minority and they have panic attacks when speaking to other people even over the phone. This is all they can do and their impact in the real world is nil. Hasan's impact in the real world is also nil.
@@user-sk4ds1rg1zI'm not sure tho. He is the most popular and mainstream politics streamer no? The fact that he is so mainstream, and how really big influences don't mind networking with him and then platforming him. given that he is quite literally an extremist, sounds pretty scary to me
@@user-sk4ds1rg1z Even if we grant that is the case for 99.9%, that's still a lot of psychopaths that could continue down the extremist path and enact actual harm in the world. Hasan is a driver of human suffering no matter what the scale. That shouldn't be ignored.
@@SiojaTkeIt is crazy how normie streamers stream with left wing Nick Fuentes. And i think Hasan is way worse than Fuentes.
It's dystopian nature is what makes it entertaining. I think Hasan knows he's so empty of actual content he let's those crazy f*cks carry him into a "kind" of relevancy. Also, it provides content for Destiny. It's a win-win.
This is worse than anything Keemstar has ever done to Ethan.
Yep. Oh well. Ethan asked for this 💯
Ethan needs to wise up
truth
He needs to realize that the people he is aligning himself with see him as nothing but a tool to further their own politcal narratives.
We need a serious Ethan vs. Leafy 2 hour debate on this.
So, it's actually CRAZY Hasan would use the argument he can't control his audience or influence it at all when every lefty creator has come for Destiny and told him he needs to do a better job controlling his audience.
No surprise honestly. Hasan will leverage whatever he can to play to his audience, so rules only apply when it serves his cause.
They ask for liberty when they're weak, because it's according to your principles. They oppress you when they are strong, because it's according to their principles.
Not even a fan of Ethan but Jesus that was hard to watch him find out his "friend" has 0 empathy or respect for him and watching him breakdown. Just disgusting.
Yeah well I saw it coming a mile away. Ethan is not an extremist. He has some really hot leftist takes, but he is no where as bad Hasan and his pure bad faith, hateful delusion.
tbh Hasan doesn't have friends, he has people that he can climb atop of. They're just tools to him, exactly what Destiny was. He always platforms off of others, just a total grifter, and his Discord mods represent his actual beliefs and personality. You have to be a pretty shitty person to foster a community that is just outright toxic and self-destructive lol
*Is it that hard to acknowledge that the slogan, from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free, did in fact originally mean, to take over the whole of Israel, and kill all the Jews there, so perhaps it would be better to use a different slogan ?*
That would be like if, make america great again, was originally started by people committing terrorist attacks against minorities, and wanted to kill them all, and then Trump supporters turned round and said, well that's not what we mean now actually. Now we just mean make it great for all people. Okay, well just change the slogan.
*If what you now really mean by that slogan, is for a one state solution for example, where they all live in peace, why not say something like* "Jews and Arabs will be free, from the river to the sea" to show that you do not side with the lunatics who came up with the slogan originally.
Or don't even involve the sea, part, just come up with a new slogan. Is it really that difficult, or are these people so uncreative, that they can only copy slogans made up by absolute lunatics.
*The fact is, most people using that slogan probably do agree with it's original meaning, which is why they haven't changed it*
Yes it really is, but I don't like how Destiny is treating it like a highschool teenage show either, laughing of the situation even hoping for it to get worse. It goes both ways, can't be sitting here laughing of the situation, while calling Hasan disgusting.
Yeah why is Hasan so condescending I cannot
Ethan wasn't even taking a hard stance he was just trying to share another perspective because Hasan and his community have been relentless in their rhetoric with no real concept of a pathway forward for peace. He just wanted Hasan to consider a way to peace that could be attainable but Hasan was the one unwilling to engage or help his chat see Ethan as a decent person asking questions.
Hasan cares more about his income than he does about any particular topic. He's not going to say or agree with something that might lose him fans.
Honestly, I hope he just becomes a better person... the sooner the better....
@@LeiRaion that feels as pointless as hoping that kim jong un becomes a better person soon
@@LeiRaion I agree he's more worried about an optical loss than the feelings of what he views as a stepping stone to securing his income and not as a person and definitely not as a friend.
Sounds like the peace talk between Israel and Palestine
Ethan's mistake was trying to imply that Hasan didn't have absolutely perfect knowledge and the completely correct take on a topic
Hasan’s chat calling Hamas a “resistance group” is mind boggling 😂
based resistance group paying out families for jihad.
it is a resistance group. also a terrorist group. also an extremist group.
They are a resestence group whos soul goal to resest the ocupation even in a violant barbaric way necessary.
It can be stretched that way, the open-air prison analogy isn't denied by either side
"I can't control what my chat says"
*permabans people who agree with Ethan*
"Israel and Russia aren't the same" - the guy who spent the last hour talking about nothing but South Africa and Ireland
Man as a guy that grew up watching Ethan it hurts to see him go through this and Hasan to be so callous.
Cold, too.
to an extend, but honestly, Hasan has been insane and irresponsible since the very beginning, when he started out lying about race relations in the US on the Young Turks. Ethan didn't have to invite this aids into his life
He made his bed. Not our fault that it's not comfortable.
As someone who also grew up watching him, i could never imagine putting myself in the situations he does now and it makes it hard to sympathize with the guy.
@@aidanjones4067 true but the empathy still kicks in seeing a guy essentially be bullied in real time and someone pretending to be his friend telling him he deserves it.
It's horrifying pausing and reading Hasan's chat throughout this conversation
Lol it's so insane
An endless horde of edgy communist teenagers
Ethan: "What Intervention could the u.s. do to disband the country?"
Hasan Chatter: "SEND IN TROOPS!?!"
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 We finally got most of the troops out and Hasan's audience wants them to go back to do more imperialist actions. Despite all of them being opposed to imperialism. You can't make this shit up.
@willo1345 I honestly don't think most of them have fully functioning brains. It makes me sick reading his chat, knowing that there are people that dimwitted and sycophantic
2:15:54 Destiny joking that Hasan is looking up images of the fall of the Soviet Union in order to make himself cry just made me do to the loudest public laugh ive ever had. I couldnt even stop with people looking at me. 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
No matter what your opinion on the conflict between Israel and Palestine is, it should be clear for everyone that how Hasan treats his supposed friend was just beyond cruel. I am shocked and feel with Ethan, because even in such a debate/discussion, you would expect a friend to treat you with respect.
Really hope Ethan ends contact with Hasan because that was psycopathic behaviour that clearly affects Ethan deeply. Happy he has Hila and two wonderful children.
The way Hasan manipulates Ethan after the chat calls him racist, is actually terrifying. “They’re saying that because of the conflations that you made, Ethan… I can’t stop them from viewing you a certain way if you’re gonna make these comparisons that they’ve heard from actually racist people.”
That terrifies you? Yellow much?
omg it is actually terrifying 😢 literally shaking
can you name one thing in the thing you mentionned that is wrong or terrifying.
@@peloleoj691 Do you know what gaslithing is? Hamasabi is *literally lying* to defend his chat and in return saying it is justified to say Ethan is racists. That is Hamasabi painting his "friend" to a very different corner that he really is in, while Ethan tries to clarify what corner he actually is in. Hamasabi lies and manipulates people with bending words to have different meanings to make himself right.
@@RanEncounter bruh, it would be gaslighting to try and convince and huge amount of people that their opinion is invalid because his one friend is offended.
anyone claiming Ethan is crying crodile tears or is a zionist has no idea who he is. This was really hard to listen to. Ethan was so genuine and open. I hope he sees not everyone is aganist him.
frogan was a self-proclaimed h3 fan too lmao
@@oldgrendel She's muslim so some inherent bias is expected. She's also a Hasan simp. She ain't a bad person at all though.
@@oldgrendel frogan sounds like a frog too. a frog in a well.
Frogan is not a friend of the show. She’s friends with AB.
Hassan is a narcissist plain and simple. Not your pop culture egocentric ex boyfriend narcissist. We’re talking the boring, toxic, mind boggling narcissist
Evil too. He said he wants forced re-education if socialism took over, so that the forcefully imprisoned People do not dare go back to capitalism. Dude is literally an evil dictator at heart that hides behind trying to be some 'fair' guy. Dunno why people don't slam him to his face more when he's saying he would have them and their family imprisoned for opposing socialism. Literal villain and proves the reason people want to avoid socialism because historically it's ran by people like him.
Agree 100%. He doesn’t learn from his wrongs, he just justifies why it was okay to be wrong. His ego can’t take that he’s constantly wrong, so he lashes out at people that politely disagree with him.
Hes also a Psychopath. There was a video that surfaced of him laughing at a cop getting shot
No, he is a Jihadi
Well we see that more from women now than we do from ex boyfriends so I would say ex girlfriend because every woman my bros date are like that and I warn them every time. About 10 women in and my friend finally took my advice
At this point I've just gone from feeling resentment for Ethan to feeling bad for him. He's been the epitome of good faith when having these conversations, genuinely looking to learn and understand. And he's dealing with the dictionary definition of a monolith; a great stone column that can't cede any optical ground for fear of not being the socialist lightning rod.
Well said
that is ridiculous Hasan has ceded and tried to take into account MANY optical grounds
Don't feel bad for the Jew who licks Nazi boots.....the little ethno-socialist fan boy Ethan deserves everything he's getting.
I've seen Ethan's arguments and he's literally on the side of the modern day Nazis he's not arguing from good faith
@@solosolo8610 I'm sure Hasan may have told you that, but I've seen plenty of what Ethan has said about the conflict, and it's generally coming from a humanistic perspective where he's been able to concede fault on both sides.
Whether his points are said by other less reputable people isn't overly important for me, because I can see he isn't saying them with an agenda. This simply cannot be said of Hasan, he's ideologically bound.
I wish Ethan could read this and understand- Hasan is NOT your friend. Tragedy has brought opportunity and Hasan has seized it. Disagreeing with you Erhan is giving him content and has given him an opportunity to have a concrete opinion about something.
Yeah imagine have a difference of opinion on one of the most protracted and complicated political problems in the modern world. I mean how could all these people who agree (broadly) with Hasan be so wrroooooong?
@@drts6955 zero understanding of the issue clearly , the conflict wasn't what the issue was nice try
@@drts6955dont slip the (broadly) in there. I can agree that the Palestinians are facing a humanitarian crisis while also not agreeing with most of Hasan's position. (Broadly) i agree with him but (specifically) i think he's pushing for a removal of Israel as a nation and an Arab reunification. It would be fine if he was more open about that, but his dogwhistling goes past the heads of people who are just focused on the wellbeing of Palestinians.
@@satiricgames2129 So what's the issue? That's a genuine question. I haven't heard anything so far (I haven't finished the video yet) to suggest Hasan is being awful to the point that he could not be considered a friend of Ethan despite their disagreement
@@punishedbarca761 What's Arab reunification?
So Hasan wants Israel wiped from the map? As opposed to a state where Arabs and Israelis would live in liberal democracy?
I do not listen to Hasan but unless there's something I'm missing that is absolutely not the impression I get. Doesn't mean he's right. A lot of these questions are hypotheticals
Kinda crazy that if Hassan and Ethan weren’t “friends”, Hassan would basically be calling for the death of his wife
Not the biggest Hasan fan but saying he’d call for the death of Hila is just stupid lmao 💀
@@calebsalazar5268 obviously not directly, that would be the end result of his rhetoric
@@calebsalazar5268bro he was laughing as cops were executed and laughing at that woman being abducted on the motorcycle back to Gaza on Oct 7th the day it was released, hes a psychopath
@@indirect977 as much as you want to paint him in a bad light, i just highly doubt he is seriously advocating for the death of every Israeli.
@@calebsalazar5268 It's literally factual, Hasan thinks all Israelis are a valid target and would be slash is actually celebrating the targeting and murdering of Hila's family.
To me the craziest part about this whole conversation is the amount of people in Hasan's chat that see this as a crystal clear Hasan-win.
just goes to show the level of brain rot hasans community holds. ignorance is bliss or something like that.
I watched it on hasans youtube and the comments section was so brutal towards ethan and calling him a Nazi. I thought i was going crazy.
@@doeeyes2Hasan fans are actual morons. Not surprising
His chat is actually sickeningly unhinged and he truely wants us to believe he has no control, when the people also spamming the most vile shit are his own mods who he appointed.
Yeah, I think his mods are a huge part of this what has become a nasty toxic community.
While he's trying to explain how the pro palestinian movement as a whole doesn't call for the death of all israelis and jews, his chat is demonstrating exactly the opposite of this claim
He loves his chat, he agrees with them & they say what he can't say
He does, especially when he has no problem banning any dissenting opinions, which is a type of soft control.
If anything ruins Cenk's campaign, it'll be because Hasan can't keep his commie grubbing fat mouth shut
Literally every single of of them holy shit!!
Hassan literally displays every abusive personality trait that my mom warned me to look out for.
I wasn't warned but grew up in terrible neighborhoods so I learned to spot those traits pretty fast. Hassan is the type of person you should never associate with even if you agreed with him.
@@Tespriexactly. Because the second he can use you for gains he’ll destroy your life if necessary.
It's so funny how his chat was saying some of the most vile shit during the convo but when Ethan started crying they all started emoting with hearts. Like they actually care.
Lovebombing. They have seen that they have an effect on Ethan and use it to try to emotionally manipulate. Hasan and his mods are unironically trying cult strats
Yeah but they actually might. These two have had weekly streams together for how long (I haven't actually checked but my understanding is that they used to have weekly streams), I can't imagine they don't care at the end of the day.
@@thanatosdriver1938so you’re saying they care about someone who they believe is a racist.
Who they just partly made cry, for calling him a racist
Yeah no
They're glad they're breaking him. Shitposters and psychopaths
@zvk3059 what's wrong with calling racial slur enjoyer Ethan Klein a racist
This entire conversation is hilarious. Ethan tried to explain why one country is a non-starter and why from the river to the sea is hurtfull for jewish people to hear. That's it. That's all he said.
These are basically facts. Not even open for debate, but hasan spend the entire time trying to convince that it shouldn't be a non-starter and that jewish people shouldn't feel hurt.
Meanwhile ethan conceded every single other point brought up by Hasan. It's honestly hilarious
I would expect every single one of my friends to deck me immideately if i talked to them like Hasan talked to ethan and i would thank them for doing it.
I live in South Africa, Im 41 years old, I know apartheid. The ANC didnt target civilians they targeted Government Establishments. And a lot of White South Africans were against apartheid. To compare the ANC to Hamas is disgusting, It makes no sense. These are two completely different things.
Yipp to compare isreal with apartheid is also dumb but these people didn't live through it and they didn't experience that just talk about stiff they dony know i was in school during apparteid and evething that was going on its so stupid to talk like this
These people know nothing
Umm what..? You can Google ANC attacks on civilians and a bunch of examples pop up. They’ve even addressed it since. Just cuz you’re from South Africa doesn’t mean you’re not ignorant on your own country’s history
@@syedhamza6017 thank you white man from a different country telling us what happened
@@EmperorDxD lol. this actually made me laugh.
Quite literally of the 71 deaths caused by the MK, the armed hand of the ANC, between 1976 to 1984 52 of them where civilians, the rest being security forces, thats 73% of the casualties
Shame on Hasan for this. This isnt something you do to your friend. He knows ethan's heart yet he keeps twisting that knife in his back. This is who Hasan has always been. Everyone warned ethan about getting involved with his ilk. Just brutal to watch. 😕
Looking at Hasans chat gave me cancer. Those are real people existing right now in the world, unbelievable.
@R-502 No, dude. This is cope not consolation. Lots of these people are on my Instagram feed who I met IRL in college. They used to just be standard progressives.
@@realmcafee Every single one? Damn bro, das crazy.
I don't think i'll ever be able to forgive destiny for bringing hasan into this world
Was it really he who did that?
@@TheMastermind729yes, Hasan used to be an orbiter
what do you find so bad about him?
@@Smoughe doesn’t take accountability for his chat even tho it’s heavily moderated and he literally cultivates his chat. He speaks to someone who is his “friend” in an extremely rude way. He can stop his chat from being straight up evil towards Ethan easily but acts like it’s impossible. He’s just a slimy snake. Most my hatred for him is just the fanbase he has created which is extremely toxic
Why not? Hasan is a GOOD PROGRESSIVE COMRADE!!! He was the BEST until everyone realized he is an actual no shit ethno-socialists who wants to genocide the Jews, a no bullshit live in the flesh Nazi. What's even better is all the average Democrats realizing that ....... they are or have ignorantly aligned themselves with actual Nazis.
hasans manipulation tactics will be studied at universities. these convos are borderline abuse
His abuse is sick, WATCH IT
Borderline? This gave me flashbacks to how some people in my family treated me until I grew up, went to therapy, and stopped talking to them lmao
If dude didn’t cape for Bernie and wasn’t semi attractive, nobody would care
@@superfarfulThe idea that if MrGirl was a bit smarter, and a bit less mask off he could’ve become the next Hasan is horrifying
@lukaswithakay I was doing the steven crowder ring camera video meme but I agree Mr girl is an unhinged psycho
I feel so bad for Ethan. Having someone you considered a friend and partner turn on you so fast with a complete lack of empathy is truly crushing. Then the guy is sitting here in failing health, and Hasan clearly doesn't give a fuck just because Ethan sympathizes with the Israeli people. From Ethans point of view, it's gotta feel like Hasan is a massive racist and Jew hater. Especially when Hasan's fans ruthlessly attack Ethan and he just goes "Well maybe if you weren't so dumb." He's basically endorsing and enabling his fans to attack Ethan.
to be fair destiny did the same thing to trihex but this topic obviously feels more serious
@@shadowtale123 correct me if im wrong but it was trihex who turned against destiny because of his n word in private take
it goes both ways, destiny double downed and even when trihex confronted him and said he genuinelly didn't like it, destiny didnt budge. in this context it's the same as hasan turning against ethan for his take and likewise when ethan confronts hasan he doesn't budge@@yellowbrand
its like saying ethan turned against hasan because of his hamas take, you can say that or you can say hasan turned against ethan because of his take, you can spin it however u want depending on ur bias@@yellowbrand
Dont feel bad. Ethan deserves this after years and years of grifting and attacking people for the smallest thing. Jordan Peterson warned Ethan what would happen if he goes grifting to extremist.
Its sad to see how Ethan is being emotionally guilt tripped by all hasan community
*"The more I see of Hasan Piker the more I grow convinced that he's a genuinely evil person..."*
-Bilbo Baggins
I love how even disagreeing in any way with Hasan in his chat or discord nets you an instaban, but he can't moderate his community at all.
someone in dgg just got banned for entering it no reason at all.
@@ThaNarc"Source? I made it the fuck up!"
@@e.d.5766 tyr dipshit
Except this isn’t even remotely true at all lol
@@e.d.5766 Hasan's subreddit literally autobans people who are dgg members. I wouldn't doubt he also does this on stream or discord.
I'm so sad for Ethan. He seems like such a good friend and he definitely doesn't deserve to be spoke down to like this man.
Don't. Ethan is a POS too. They both deserve each other
I feel for him too. He hasn't yet hit the wall. It's gonna be really bad later.
Brother he brought it on himself, this is the people he fostered in his community. It is what it is, he is getting eaten up by his own people
@@MichaelHeyra yep. Eat the rich
@@killermiller1980As a jew I have to agree, he brought this on himself
Man I miss the days when Hasan was just dragged into discord whenever he had a bad take. Accountability is non existent nowadays, literally nobody keeps his ass in check
Hasan and his community are such clowns. Those people who write "based" in the chat after the Hamas statement clip are the same ones who have a mental breakdown if somebody misgenders somebody. His community is exactly what I think represents the "Queers for Palestine" movement.
Only destiny his boogie man can do such a thing
So one random jew saying from the river to the sea can represent the group, but a spokesman from Hamas is not the opinion of Hamas? Did I get this right?
The gaslighting is insane. Hasan is literally Eric Cartman.
IDF bot spotted
@@TurtleChad1nah fam. Decent people can see that Hasan is a bully.
There is no place in history where an Islam majority state has been secular, or treated Jews as NOT second class citizens. It’s never happened.
@@TurtleChad1lol hamas bot spotted
Hasan dick ridder spotted@@TurtleChad1
The IDF is too busy destroying a terrorist organisation to care about creating bots, unlike the overwhelmingly amount of palestinian bots I see online . They're literally everywhere@@TurtleChad1
"I can't control what people think of you" *permabans anyone who starts agreeing with him*
Ethan has pissed me off for many things over the years, but I'm riding with him on this. This poor guy doesn't look well either. I hope he's healthy along with his family as well.
lol, hes dealing with a dermatology issue
@oldgrendel how does that explain his voice?
@@bravingbrivatebrian bro, watch the podcast lol, he was recently sick and had a throat issue on wednesday.
its ok, having uninformed opinions is fun!
@@oldgrendel you left that part out of your first answer, and it seems the person was asking genuinely. Thank you for explaining, but I think that’s all was necessary 😅
@@Michael-kp4bd yeah, my bad lol
Ethan started to understand that his “friends” are only using him as an a political tool and nothing else
Jordan Peterson was riiiight. (Just saying)
how is it that Destiny's community is more sympathetic to Ethan than his own
because leeches arent a community.
wow yeah
Because that's the audience he cultivated. He was warned by multiple people that he'd eventually step out of line and be eaten alive by his own viewers. He didn't listen.
As someone who follows Ethan, most of his fans are apolitical and want him to just shut up about the whole situation. He just has a very loud minority of Hasan-heads that follow him and make his life a nightmare
trauma bonding
Hasan is so fake and disingenuous. I feel bad for the fact that Ethan thinks he’s his friend
Notice how Hasan constantly calls him Ethan by name when getting cornered and defensive, what a passive-aggressive diva.
Why is that an issue?
@@thanatosdriver1938it's patronizing the way Hasan's using it, like he's trying to diminish Ethan's position straight out the gate
I feel so sorry for hasans future kids. IMAGINE the amount of manipulation that’ll happen to their brains.
kid: dad can we go to the park?
hasan: there are many types of parks for example, public parks which consist of regional, national, community and more. People would say parks are typically safe; when parks are used by many people, there are more eyes on the street. Now, in terms of health, children who spend time outside are more physically active and have higher brain activity.
@@pedestrian_0 hasans fans: HES A GENIUS
He’s not going to have kids. He needs to keep all his money probably doesn’t see a “need” to add that to his life.!
@@vincentmartino9122 lucky for them
It's seems it's okay for muslim to support islamic terrorist but it's wrong if you support the counter terrorist.😢
It's so insane how people can be allergic to accountability
Right?!? Ask the people who are justifying Israel killing civilians
my favorite thing is that he would 100% ask other to take accountability
Actually it makes perfect sense.
When your career is on the line,
it makes sense
@@junioralvarado629exactly, I can understand the argument that an online personality isn't responsible for the actions of their audience, and I would generally side with that except in extreme circumstances. But Hasan would certainly not take that position for anyone he disagrees with only slightly.
People can have bad takes. People can say aweful thing's.... but being a bad friend is a grave sin and a far more important mark on ones character
Destiny hit the nail on why hasan was squirming so much around the clip of that hamas leader calling for an isrealian genocide. Because he knew his chat would get called out by ethan, he muddied the clip being played uninterrupted but you can still see his chat agreeing with the terrorist
As an israeli, this comment section is so refreshing to see. I have never seen so many people call out people like hasan on their bullshit! Thank you guys. Seriously.
we got you
Israel is an apardheit state. fuck Netanjahu.
Maybe this is stupid but if you really are israeli I want to say something.
Not all turks are like that or think like that. I am also turkish and I support you really hard.
I get if you guys don't trust us anymore but please a lot of turks support you. You just can not see them.
Israel and jewish people around the world will win. Never again is now. I know.
@@gozigoz5727 this is far from stupid! Thank you for this comment, i appriciate it a lot. Israelis were really dissappointed from the statements made by the turkish government, bceuase israel has quite a strong connection to turkey. My parents arent even turkish but they went on their honeymoon to turkey! One of my favorite influencers is an ethnically turkish swedish citizen and posted a story about how coca cola should be boycotted for "suppirting genocide". I unfollowed quite a lot of influencers that made my day a while back lately, but i dont mind it much. They made me happy, now they made me sad. Thats life i guess. Anyways, i try not to take it to heart, i cant live without burekas anyways.
@@gozigoz5727 I felt really angry watching ardugan's speech and his supporters after Israel consistently sent aid and military to help when the earthquacke occured, but I am now immedietly calm again and hopeful.
Ethan honestly tried to have a human relationship with a grifter psycopath bless his heart
Wouldn't be the first time. _Cough_ Trisha _cough_
EXACTLY
Hasan couldn’t even take the time to tell his chat to chill once. Ethan asked like 10 times if he has moderators not knowing the mods are more insane than Hasan.
When you know that Frogan used to be a mod for him, then you understand why the monsters are allowed to speak their filth. 😢
i dont see what hasan said that is so crazy
Ethan is being deprogrammed. I hope this wakes him up to the audience and “friends” he has fostered that do not share his values or support him
Unfortunately I don’t think he will survive it.
Ethan becoming woke. 😱
Bring Ethan on, rebuild his confidence. Let him know he is not alone and not hated, regardless of whether you agree with his views.
If you hadn't propped up Hasan this wouldn't be happening, he wouldn't be a blip on the radar.
Like it or not; you have a debt to pay.
Like it’s destiny fault for something he probably didn’t see coming at all
So Hasan basically just blames Ethan for all the shit talking that's going on against him. Nice friend, huh.
And Hasan apparently has no control of what his community says about Ethan....unless they say he is being reasonable, then they are permabanned and the mods can completely get that nonsense outta here.
I feel SO sorry for Ethan. He seems like an actual, genuinely good person who is trying so hard to do and say all the right things and stand by his principles. I used to be a Hasan fan, and after all of this, I'm just disgusted by Hasan. I hope this is a wakeup call for Ethan that Hasan is NOT his friend.
Nah. This is the chickens coming home to roost. Ethan made his choices.
Ethan is an emotional man. A good man? Definitely not. An entertaining one that’s for sure.
Don't feel bad for him, it's the first time he can't weasel his way out of a situation he created
@@lukaswithakay Yep, unfortunately he and others like him didn't fully understand that "choice", and that it could ever come back to bite them like it has.
Don't forget he doxxed the wrong people and didn't care.
Not Hasan comparing Israel to South Africa and stating they were allies. He is beyond poisoning the well. He's vile.
There is overwhelming evidence that the system instituted by the Israeli government against the Palestinian people meets the UN definition of apartheid.
In effect, Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory constitute one territorial unit under full Israeli control. Palestinians constitute around half of the total population (inside Israel and in the oPt), yet under Israeli law, and in practice, Jewish Israelis and Palestinians are treated differently in almost every aspect of life: housing, education, health, employment, family life, residence, and freedom of movement. Dozens of Israeli laws and policies institutionalise this prevailing system of racial discrimination and domination.
Segregation is carried out by implementing separate legal regimes for Jewish Israelis and Palestinians living in the same area. In the occupied West Bank, Jewish Israeli settlers living in illegal settlements are governed by Israeli civil law, while Palestinians also living in the West Bank are governed by Israeli military law.
In Israel itself, there exists no ‘Israeli’ nationality shared by all citizens, Jewish and non-Jewish alike. Rather, citizens are divided into ‘national’ categories of ‘Jewish’, which affords them a set of rights and privileges above the other categories, or ‘Arab’ with comparatively restricted rights and privileges. This separation was reiterated when Israel passed the Nation State Law in 2018, essentially codifying decades of discrimination and enshrining two classes of citizens in law.
Israel carries out various acts that are prohibited by the UN Apartheid Convention including:
Forcible transfer of Palestinians to make way for illegal Israeli settlements.
Preventing Palestinians from returning to their homes and lands (including millions of refugees living in exile).
Systematic and severe deprivation of fundamental human rights of Palestinians based on their identity.
Denying Palestinians their right to freedom of movement and residence (especially, but not limited to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip).
Murder, torture, unlawful imprisonment and other severe deprivation of physical liberty.
Persecution of Palestinians because of their opposition to apartheid.
Jeez Hasan is the absolute WORST person! Ethan is going through it and he can’t even be kind.
I love how Ethan has become their villain when he said he's anti Zionist every time they talk about the topic and continues to dissavow what Israel is doing every step of the way. They have no charitability in their body.
Yeah, but he doesn't think all Israelis should be deleted, so he's not progressive enough for Hasan and his followers.
“What Israel is doing is bad, and I don’t like Zionism, this is just complicated and you can’t convince Israel to give up their borders”
“Zionist. Fascist. Racist. You support genocide.”
It’s like pulling teeth bro. There’s just no goddamn nuance left.
Having Hasan's chat on screen is actually toxic to my health I think, I'm pretty sure I can feel myself get sick looking at these freaks.
Hasan fans really are some of the most vile people. Actual bullies who need to do some serious self-reflection if that's even possible for them.
I agree, it's sickening.
Hasan treats a friend in despair like a debate opponent. He seems like a genuinely horrible person, how was Destiny ever friends with that guy?
Cuz while Destiny has some sociopathic tendencies (like most people with any sort of power) he isnt a full blown one. Now Hasan is, he is just morally lucky and on the good side of things about 60% of the time he cant follow the logic of how he gets to his positions and where they lead when extrapolated while reciting talking points from other people on the same wave length. He is just badempanada with higher self awareness.
this man is not Ethan's friend, I feel like this is one of the main takeaways of this conversation
@@frankmerker630 Absolutely. It's a shame everyone except Ethan seems to realize this.
Holy shit, Ethan is a saint for enduring this this patiently. Hassan's arguments are clearly untenable and he keep slithering around the hard hitting questions... just props to Ethan, i would've lost my mind if i was in his place.
@@Mr_tumnus i guess you'd have to check hasans vods
i feel really bad for ethan . Without taking his point in consideration ( which is a pretty fair point ) , it hurts to see a guy being basically bullied by a person that he tought was his friend . Ethan might not be the smartest or the most informed but he doesnt deserve this treatment .
In what way is he bullied tell me
@@orenju465 he is not straigh up being bullied in the classic way , you know " you are fat , KYS " type of shit . His way is way more subtle ,
1 )first of all Hasan is clearly trying to gaslit Ethan , Ethan has been struggling with his understanting of the situation and hasan is desperately trying to make him feel like his ( completely fair point ) is racist and stupid
2) Secondly and most importantly , its fun/sad to see a person like Hasan that bitched a lot about the harrasment that was pushing him to depression or suicide being completly stupid in not understanding that putting the H3 community , his community and himself against Ethan is clearly having a big mental tool on him .
I mean we could say that he is not acting like a bully , but definitely he is not acting like a guy that proclaims to be your friend
I don't think he's the most informed but he's definitely smart. Although I think his leftie arc has fucked with his brain to be loyal to a side instead of his own beliefs. Until now, because this is something that is extremely important to him.
Hasan: I can't control my audience to stop them calling you names Ethan.
Also Hasan: Bans any mention of Destiny on his Discord.
I think Ethan needs to understand that Hasan cares more about his numbers and viewership than he ever has about friendship.
Well, Hasan also hates the jews so...
“It doesn’t matter what Hamas’ goals is”
200 IQ Hasan
As someone who grew up with narcissistic parents, this hits home.
I know the feeling, watching people fucking with each other on these online spaces was quite therapeutic for me, cause it made me realize what were the cheap manipulation methods practiced by narcissist people from my own family and friend groups. I'm glad I see it now clearly, but it worries me a lot how common it is. People gaslight each other just to win a fucking argument and they do it like it's nothing.
@@GiltleyRage It's always "Im not the problem, you are the problem." That fact Hasan refused to tell his chatters to chill infuriates me.
@@Thorvald9666He's also lying about not being able to moderate them too, dude will insta ban anyone who mentions destiny he could easily do the same for people attacking Ethan he just chooses not to.
Islam and peace can never exist together.
@@UreTriggered If Christianity can modernize, so can Islam.
Dude Hassan uses genocide so loosely. It's crazy. Anytime people die or are in a bad situation, it's genocidal. You know that term has an actual definition, right?
I agree with you, but I’m pretty sure that’s another word that the left are trying to redefine, like racism.
Hassan doesn’t really live on earth, it’s easy to throw around words like that when you live and breathe cognitive dissonance like he does lol
Are you insinuating that currently theres no genocide againts palestinian?
@@Haqqulyaqin-99Are you insinuating that Ronnie Radke was doing better in escape the fate than he is currently doing in falling in reverse?
@@iaqh the casual answer zionist do. It convince me that zionist is loosing their braincells.
i feel so bad for ethan someone needs to explain to him what hasan really is
We, all us ultra-extreme-far REICH wingers.... also known as liberals have been telling him what "progressives" are for years..... like most Democrats who didn't know what ethno-socialism really was he didn't want to listen. Anyone who didn't toe the ethno-socialist hating white males for being born white and male was a RACIST!!! AND A SEXIST!!! Unlike the good progressives who hate white males for being born white and male. The writing was on the wall clear as day for anyone who wasn't chugging the Nazi Kool-Aid. 😉
They're literal Nazis telling him they want to genocide his family and people off the face of the planet and he's STILL DESPERATELY LICKING THEIR BOOTS. How can you feel bad for someone like that?? A Jew desperately sucking Nazi scholong anywhere he can get it isn't worth your sympathy.