「The Operating System to overtake SteamOS? Bazzite OS」
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2025
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Yeah no music this time. I forgot it.
Maybe I'll upload the music version as a patreon bonus.
is the performance better than steam os with cryo utilities 2?
I wish more creators would forget the music.
We've been working on this for such a long time, thank you for going in depth and learning how it works.
This container pattern is just making it's way to desktop linux after years of being relegated to the server room --- and now we all get to enjoy Fedora's work and build the client stuff we all want.
It's going to be an exciting six months, and we're hoping to integrate the new Fedora installer as soon as it's available, which will be much simpler and easier to use for everybody!
While trying to create a SteamOS alternative you guys created the closest thing to my dream desktop distro I have ever seen in the linux space in my 2 years using linux, I've always wanted an immutable KDE Plasma distro with an arch and nix container pre-set up. You guys should be proud of yourselves, basically my only complaints with it are extremely minor nitpicky shit like how the implementation of GRUB could look a bit prettier with a theme and that I can't use it in Ventoy but I'm not sure if the latter is a technical limitation or not.
@@WMan37 latter is technical but may improve soon, former is certainly possible and I'll look into it
I'm excited to try it on my rog ally.
@@WMan37 Yeah, all those things are fixable. We don't have that level of deep knowledge about how to modify the Fedora installer. We're more cloud experts that are gaming nerds and that's a different skillset. We're hoping to get their attention and see if we can find volunteers with the right skills who can help out.
@@JorgeCastro @OneQuarterLife Either way, you all are doing great so far, keep up the good work.
I definitely need a video on this running on ROG Ally. Specially covering the emulation part and battery performance.
This is fantastic. Thanks for spreading the word.
I'm thinking that I'm eventually going to move off of the Steam Deck for a handheld system with more power and a larger screen, but the thought of having to move back to Windows was EXTREMELY unappealing. Looks like this is going to solve that issue nicely!
Very happy that the Steam Deck has forced Linux into a wider audience.
Android did this a decade ago
@@LeandroMartinscg Android ptobably was useful by commiting in the Linux kernel, but it's useless from user experience
I think this would be great on one of those AMD mini PC's... it would be like running a mini gaming console!
thats what i do.. its an awesome little gaming console. great for kids
Just a little info:
Your resolution was fine, it was just scaling the UI to make it usable on a touch screen. KDE (the desktop Steam OS uses) is basically a “windows-like” interface, and doesn’t work that well for touch screens because everything is smaller.
I'm pretty interested on how this fairs on a desktop PC. I see that it works on most GPU vendors (Nvidia, AMD, and Intel) that's pretty big. This might be the best Linux distribution to recommend to anyone coming from Windows and doesn't want to worry about terminal and all that nonsense.
I'm using PopOS atm and just about everything works flawlessly for me (AMD CPU/AMD GPU), used to use Linux Mint and vanilla Debian back in the days. Bazzite on PC would make a great alternative as well.
this is how to yes, garuda os gnome edition, pop-shell package and turn it on in extensions (its a tiling manager and you WILL thank me for this) then go to the AUR and build gamescope-session-git, now you have a full desktop os with tiling and a chimeraos(gamescope steamos) session to log into and it uses the steamdeck version of big pic so it is fully working just like on the deck complete with decky, installs on almost anything with 4 gb ram or moar, no need to even bother with steam os, this is meant to use as a daily driver and is not some stupid consoleized immutable crap, if you want that just install chimeraos
Hey I'm on steam deck using bazzite deck trying to run a egpu setup, it's seeing my rx 6600 but Games are either running with the van Gogh apu or something else is going wrong, but i can't install all ways GPU because it's say that /bin is a read only file system, I've tried export-gpu but nope, any help on how to install all ways GPU or any other way to make it use the rx 6600?
Thanks for the Ventoy comment: it was my first go-to as well!
Very tempting, especially with SteamOS 3.5 taking so long. Curious about benchmarks. I know there was a CPU security mitigation patch recently added to the Linux Kernel that might harm Steam Deck performance so would be curious if this performs better of worse that current unpatch SteamOS.
You can disable the mitigations if you want, kargs are easily set with rpm-ostree and maintained through updates.
steam os is immutable and is shit for a daily driver, garuda os pick any desktop and build from the aur gamescope-session-git, now you has a real steam os that is usable
it still sucks that they were allowed to advertise it has having a certain performance and then a year later be like HAHA NOPE. like I get why, but it's still really shitty and somewhat false advertising.
I had eyes on holo ISO and Chimera OS, And I've even tried Fedora 38. This might be the one I'll stick to if the features are in line with what's available on DeckOS And it works on a standard desktop setup which I have plans for building next year
chimera is not ideal on deck. the steam app is bugged in desktop
@@seeincn4044 I haven't tried it out myself, but iirc Chimera is GNOME, and I had issues on Bazzite-GNOME + Wayland + Steam. Perhaps go back to X11 and see if that helps.
I built an all AMD setup and put Chimera OS on it and it's been super awesome. It's basically replaced our living room Xbox and has become our family console.
I was thinking about instaling holo ISO or Chimera os but this might work on my low an laptop I think so
i do wonder if there is a difference between steamos 3.5 (i run the beta now) and this distro version in game performance and the like.
The installer needing internet is not a fault of Fedora.
Fedora offers both fully offline (Fedora Workstation) AND network installer (Fedora Everything).
The Bazzite team elected to use the network installer, because it actually saves data.
Well, installed it yesterday, tried to do a dualboot with clover like on SteamOS and clover said "no thank You". Thank God I did a backup with Rescuezilla and now I'm restoring it, I will stick with SteamOS and Try just to install WinDeckOS with this setup.
Don't see enough of a difference to leave Chimera OS but it's nice that we have options
Great vid keep it up! Would love to see a ROG ALLY installation guide as well :)
I'll stick with steam OS on my Deck, but this looks awesome for an actual PC!...especially considering it also supports Nvidia cards!
Thanks for bringing this OS to light!
Yeah, I would stick to Steam OS for the deck myself too but definitely considering installing it on my desktop or one of my laptops.
nah broski you got it all wrong, this is how to yes, garuda os gnome edition, pop-shell package and turn it on in extensions (its a tiling manager and you WILL thank me for this) then go to the AUR and build gamescope-session-git, now you have a full desktop os with tiling and a chimeraos(gamescope steamos) session to log into and it uses the steamdeck version of big pic so it is fully working just like on the deck complete with decky, installs on almost anything with 4 gb ram or moar
I just generally don't understand what the benefit of going through all that is. Is it that this gives more performance and/or stability? or is it new software features? Or does it give greater game compatibility? What is this for??
Numerous steam os community features pre-installed, numerous features exclusive to bazzite, latest software, and the ability to install any packages you need and keep them between updates
@@OneQuarterLife But does it play games better?
probably also simpler support for accessories that steam OS may not give access too.
I'm installing right now!!!!
would love to see some comparisons to holoiso
As much as I wanna try this distro, I'm afraid of what'll happen if I replace SteamOS with this. Maybe I should try installing it on my laptop instead. 🤔
Nothing bad will happen, worst case you can always reinstall SteamOS!
I'm swapping over because the damn brick wouldn't wake up from sleep mode, constantly having to hard shutoff and turn it back on. Once it goes to sleep again, I'd had to rinse and repeat.
A video comparing fps between steamos 3.5 and this os? Could be cool
Thanks for making this video!
To get started, you'll need to get started.
Thanks for the tip of not using ventoy was driving me crazy
So I managed to get all the setting within cryo utilities activated and working as they should but the options that don’t apply you have to go and make those changes manually especially since it change from a swap file to a swap partition which to my understanding is a better way to go in comparison the rest of the memory changes can be done manually as well
Set! A! PASSWORD!
Don't skip setting a password.
If you're creating a sudo user, give them a password. Do not advise people to not set a password.
This is how you break things.
Very curious. I might consider installing this OS on my old laptop since it supports Nvidia GPUs.
I’m gonna use it when I get my hands into the future Legion Go
I would personally stick with SteamOS on my Deck just because of official support, but I totally want to build an HTPC with Bazzite with a Vega 56 I have laying around to replace it as a living room console PC and leave the deck exclusively as a portable.
how is the game performance to steamos 3.5 ?
I get this during the installation loading screen I'm on steam deck lcd
following error occurred while installin g the payload. This is a fata
eror and installation will be aborted
The command 'ostree container image deploy --sysroot-/mnt/sysimage
--image=/run/install/repo/bazzite-deck-stable --transport=oci --no-
signature-verification' exited with the code 1
I'm not actually getting the prompt to download the special version of grub from Rufus. Can't imagine why and I don't know how to 'feed' it this grub version
It's a bummer Bazzite doesn't seem to have the USB dual-role controller driver, or at least doesn't have whatever it needs to actually switch to the peripheral role and use MTP.
The instructions to disable DRD are so you can actually boot from installation media, since the Deck WILL NOT see your bootable media if you have DRD on.
I actually haven't tested to see if DeckMTP works but I've heard it works so long as your deck has Firmware 115 or 118, NOT 116.
Hey, i gotta know. Can I use usb wifi adapter on this Bazzite OS? Bcoz my steam deck wifi and bluetooth module has burnt and cant function so i had to use usb wifi adapter to connect to the internet. But only on windows..i cant get my usb wifi adapter to work on the stock Steam OS.
Fedora's installer is such a PITA, hopefully they (Fedora) will remedy it in future releases.
Same as a lot of people here. Would love to know how this one works on the Ally 🙏
Great video!
Can you install Bazzite OS to a flash drive and run it on a desktop PC that way rather than replacing your OS install?
yes
Thank you!@@dreamyuki
Bullexcrement online speedless, progressless instaler is not fedora fault. That specific thing is exclusively bazzite thing. They went out of their way to cut not only the base fedora os but also all the distrobox things out of iso file. My guess is doing so would guarantee latest arch version for distrobox without the usual outdated arch update bs.
Sry I missed this one when it came out. D
oes this allow me to use printers in Desktop Mode?
This has been unsupported feature in SteamOS and I don't see anything about a fix in 3.5.
It does have printing support out of the box yes.
Is it possible to install bios updates? Thanks
Yep! You can disable them if you want too.
I don't have a Steam Deck, I just want the latest SteamOS for my PC.
Yup, I'm installing! Goodbye kde
Just the fact that it supports android already sell for me. This is really interesting
Does it mean i get regular Steam OS Updates and on top Updatet Extra Features with this OS
Can i use a 512gb internal hdd as the bootdrive? And then install bazzite on the same drive ?
Question. Can you play all steam games or just the ones that are available for the steamdeck?
Not having a deck I couldn't say if the deck is artificially restricted but with bazzite you can play any game that will run with wine/proton/etc as you would on any other desktop linux.
what do I select when installing on ROG Ally? I guess not Bazzite Deck...should I select the first one?
I have a problem that’s the one I try to install but get this error on selecting it
error:
error:
/../grub-core/disk/ef1/ef idisk.C:581: invalid buffer alignment -1342541376.
7/grub-core/loader/1386/ef1/1inux.c:258:you need to load the kernel first.
Press any key to continue..
can you install without physical keyboard?
For the ally, does it support sleep and TDP control?
I haven't tested it on the Ally yet but I certainly plan on doing so.
Thanks for the guide. Were you able to connect your controllers to it? I am having problems connecting my keyboard and Ps4 controllers.
My Basilisk hyperspeed mouse connects just fine but the controller and keyboard keep disconnecting. Thanks.
I haven't had any issues with controllers personally. For me it's basically the same experience as regular old SteamOS. Pair and play.
@@HiTechLoLife Thanks for replying. I honestly don't know how to resolve this issue. I might have to do a fresh install.
So if say I wanted to switch to Linux on my desktop computer would this be a reasonably beginner friendly Linux distro? Or are there better alternatives than this for a desktop pc?
I'd say bazzite is one of the top distros in terms of beginner friendlyness. It's based on Ublue which is already made to be as beginner friendly as possible.
It's very beginner friendly as a linux distro, little to no under the hood tinkering is required to set it up. It pretty much gives you access to Android apps and the ability to use controllers like the Xbox controller right out of the box.
Does it have an immutable/read-only file system that wipes 3rd party installs when you update? Thats a common complaint about SteamOS (and not inherently bad) but im curious if this is any different. The wording on the Bazzite release announcement doesnt make this clear to me.
Bazzite uses rpm-ostree under the hood, which is a hybrid package manager, so you can add anything you want directly to the image and it'll persist across reboots.
@@JorgeCastro thanks, that's super useful to know. On one hand, the idea of having the system more protected is nice but on the other, reinstalling the OpenVPN plugin, xone drivers and a few other things have been moderately annoying. I got used to making scripts and saving them in a folder to save myself time for the next SteamOS update lol
@@tomferrier6143 Yeah, some stuff just makes more sense to have in a base image. All the Universal Blue images include support for xbox controllers, openrgb, wooting keyboards, even yubikeys lol) out of the box. No need to do any of that by hand. And then you'd just install openVPN and that will persist through reboots so you should be good to go.
So temped to install it on my main pc, I'll wait little.
Is there still suspension? Can you dual boot both this and steam OS?
Bazzite has been updated and really doesn’t have the issues mentioned
That is fair. I guess I'll have to cover it at some point once more
You should. The desktop issue is gone, tdp just works, everything just works and the overall os does feel faster
@@HiTechLoLife
Is bazzite fully functional on Rog ally?
Does it support the pause-and-resume capability like steam deck?
Yes
hey question! does Bazzite Os Run Games The Same In Game Mode as desktop mode? this is a big issue i have with the steam deck ,and its quite..annoying :/
I'm pretty sure it's the same throughout
@HiTechLoLife so desktop mode will run like game modes performance unlike steam os? :0
i have installed it on my ally... the problem is now in desktop i can't access the virtual keyboard but in gaming mode it works
can anyone help me ?😢
You need to turn Steam on to access the virtual keyboard
I don't really get the need to use this on Steam Deck. It isn't a big enough change to warrant such a process for 99.9% of steam deck users. Steam OS is consistently upgrading and patching Steam OS with features, and the mods available give you plenty of new gimmicks to play with. Gnome, I am sure, can be installed as a DE in DE Mode, likely with less headaches like wiping device, etc. This of course is an assumption that linux is linux, but admittedly, I have yet to see anyone report that they have done it. That seems like the largest noticeable major difference to the normal end user. I also kinda cringe at Fedora being the bones of the distro. Kind of a rocky distro to use lately, but everyone will make their own minds up with that. That being said, I have tried a number of different OS's, mostly gaming centered and featured, from Fedora, Arch, SUSE, and Debian/Ubuntu. In my experience lately, a stable gaming platform for me has been on Debian/Ubuntu and Arch (likely thanks to Valve input) OS's than others. I really want to love some of these other systems like Nobara and Regata, but in the end, there was always a point I got to that something just doesn't work or gets unstable, while things just seem to plain work on distro's like Steam OS and Pop OS, etc. That all being said, I love the idea of an OS like this available for OTHER devices like the ASUS. Linux gaming is the future, if you like it or not, and honestly, the Steam OS experience I prefer over the ASUS windows experience anyways. Awesome way to run linux on those type of devices, likely to their advantage. However, if you want a linux based PC handheld gaming device, you prob should have went for the Steam Deck anyway. LOL
I don't get your point other than "Most Steam Deck users don't want to reinstall". GNOME isn't really possible to install on the Deck because of the immutable FS and upgrade system. The mods that work on SteamOS also work on Bazzite. The "Constant updates with new features" also apply to bazzite, in fact moreso as system updates come sooner. How is Fedora more rocky than arch? I've used Kinoite (The distro this is based on) for over 6 months and it's 100x more stable than Arch, especially when it comes to updates.
All I want is an os that allows all the anti cheats so I don’t have to use windows
That's ultimately on the developers of those games and anti-cheat solutions.
great video, saved for later... you lost me @1:16 😅
Is this Immutable? That's the main reason I stopped using Chimera.
In a sense yes. But you can still layer native packages to the image with a simple command (rpm-ostree install ) and they'll survive between updates. Immutable isn't really the word. It's more or less considered "atomic."
If you don't want troubles better stay with steam os ;-D and benefit from full valve support. If something happens to your steam deck with these changes, it wont be covered by the guarantee. Steam os will also get the newest linux kernel if valve has tested it enough for the next update. Bazzite OS is in the best case experimental. And if you stay on this os you will miss all important future steam os updates of course. Steam OS is especially developed for the steam deck, so there won't be a better operating system for it.
Does this support anticheat now? So we can play games online?
Not any more than SteamOS
@@SneeziLoki The anti-cheat is more of a Linux issue than a steam deck issue. It's more than likely that the anti cheat makers will have to support Linux. Though for me personally I hope they don't. I would never want something like anti-cheat installed on my system at the kernel level, poses more risks to security than it solves.
This work on laptop with rtx 3060 gpu?
You'll have to select the version that comes with Nvidia drivers. It SHOULD work but I haven't tested it on a gaming laptop myself.
Anyone have experience with this and an old surface pro 6?
What about windeck
IMHO Gnome is spelled Genome. I dunno though. Felt like it.🤔
would this work on Lenovo legion go?
I just got the device today so I'm not certain. I'll have to try it out at some point.
Amazing video
If it only works on the original drive I have to skip until they find a fix.
It does as long as it's not the 64GB Drive.
The eMMC Drive was the only one that apparently exhibits issues.
@@HiTechLoLife ah ok, so if I installed my own 2 TB drive I'm good then
Was gonna try it in a VM but it was not happy
Should work in a VM, the devs test it in a VM and I've personally used it in one before.
@@gecked8560 it took like an hour or so of tinkering but I got it working
i told you how to yes before anyone else so why not enjoy life baka
afaik only blue archive jp server works
But this system used in Chinese devices like rog and lenovo so now steam deck will losing their system after it can be in other devices
Great video. 1 main question.
Can u play the anti cheat games on it like fifa. Cod etc?
for this you need windows
@devilsword eish ja and windeck.
Would have thought this sorts that issue out.
@@cameronweston1038 well it that damn destiny and cod anti cheat wich they doesnt want it to work with linux. I mean, even halo mcc and infinite works on steamdeck...
I mean that's 1000% up to the game developers to make anticheat work on Linux or SteamOS and it seems they don't care enough to.
True
Why phisical kerboard is required? I don't have phisical keyboard and I want to install bazzite 😔
I tried Bazzite OS, it was glitchy as hell.
Aftermarket lmao
Turn close closed captions on. Turn the volume off. This dudes voice is unbearable.
ppl who choose a diff os usualy choose windows bcs alot of games just wont run on linux and thats mostly the only reason other then that there is 0 reason to switch
You lost all credibility the moment you said "you have to connect to a wifi". Even Android's grammar check doesn't want me to post this.
Side note: cut your nails dude
Have no interest in fedora, unfortunately. Arch or nothing.