I bought a Behringer UC200 a couple of weeks ago to see what it is like..subtle...not as wild as my old Guyatone pedal but v good for price.vibrato more than chorus really but good.
So, electro harmonics was the big winner in the last couple ones of these, but dropped the ball big-time today. Sounded pretty awful. Strymon however has been consistently in the top one or two, and that doesn’t even include all the extra features each of their pedals comes with. I’d say while they are the most expensive, they also do a pretty good job of justifying the expense. Today’s big winner, however, is the Behringer. Super affordable and sounded great.
Edit: Need to clarify that i'm not having a moan, just thought it should be known. When Lee was turning the JHS knobs and NOTHING changed, that was because it was actually in loop four, not three! And it was in vibrato mode!!!!!!!! Sucks bc i own and love the JHS chorus and I want others to love it too. Dropped the ball on this one, guys :( Still good to hear them all, if not in the order you intended haha
@@briandevlin269 It was a funny order to put them in but still a shame. I hope they pick up on it and correct it somehow in the video, or even just acknowledge it!
On the JHS 3 Chorus you guys had the vibrato setting on the whole time. The toggle switch in the up position is from vibrato, and down is chorus. That's why Pete thought it sounded weird. FYI.
Thats JHS's fault. Don't have a switch that is blank in the up position and "vibe" in the down position. On a chorus pedal, blank should be chorus. More so dont name a setting the name of a completely different type of effect. So regardless of them getting it wrong, JHS got it wrong when they made the casing.
Honestly it's pretty irresponsible to do these shoot outs without know how to use a pedal. Kinda makes it a sh#t out not a shoot out. I just watched the JHS demo video where he clearly says toggle down for Chorus.
@@iceman10129I don't disagree with you, but It's irrelevant whose fault it is. On the other hand, It works like any toggle switch would or any light switch in your house where down is off and up is on. It probably would been better to move the toggle down 1 cm and put the vibe decal above it for more clarity.
@@briandevlin269 Mistakes happen. Not a big deal. At the end of the day, these shouldn't be taken to heart. Anderton's is much a content creator as they are a music retailer these days. This just for fun. I just wanted to point out the mistake. That's all.
CE2 waza is $350 in Oz. Vintage CE2 is around $500. Since '84 ive never had ANY pedal break down on me ...boss HM2, Ross Distortion, Some Flanger/Feedbacker thing, George Denis Wah, Zoom G2, Dunlop Crybaby Wah, Joyo American Sound, NU>X Plexi Crunch, Boss SD1, Boss GE7. ...currently wondering if my ZoomG2 does a warm chorus equal in nice-ness to the CE2w? I avoid the Zoom a bit coz its overly complex (this is why i liked the CE2 original 2 dials only (simplicity), but if i find the time to set the parameters on the chorus options on the Zoom, then i can just store it on a bank, and its set it n forget it.
@@AKJ828i.e. his signal is absolutely drenched with reverb. Capos and studio manipulation of the speed of the guitar track are essential to his tone on studio albums.
Just a suggestion... maybe name the pedals A B C. Etc... instead of 1 2 3 ....so there less confusion when he’s placing them numerically first to worst... instead of “pedal 8 is number 1” you’d have pedal H is number 1” ....all the numbers get confusing for Pete, and us....
Moog MF-Flange good for Jet Flange after Distortion but it's a rare pedal, ThorpyFX Camoflange good for shimmering cleans, Donner Jet Convolution (or Mooer E-Lady) can do both pretty well and has an internal trimpot to adjust time, when you're in doubt just get the Donner it's dirt cheap and does Deluxe Electric Mistress sounds.
I’m loving this series. It’s a shame about the mix up with EHX and JHS as neither were given a chance as they were not tweaked correctly. The Small Clone with the depth switch engaged and rate turned down is a great sound.
I wondered why the Small Clone sounded like my JHS 3 in vibe mode, turns out it's because that's exactly what happened! Slight loop order issue. Easily done, but I feel bad for JHS and EHX not getting a fair crack at this one! The JHS 3 is really nice. That Boss Waza is seriously great sounding.
when they tried to get the "last train home" tone, lee was saying he thought the tone city sounded closer to the original ce-2 than the ce-w. i've not played any of those pedals, but thought headphones i thought the same
@@sebastiencomeau3048 - I now use Li-Ion batteries for my whole pedal board, both for analog and digital pedals... It's eliminated any chance of grounding issues.
@@widescreennavelI thought it was metal zone? Lol actually that made me afraid of distortion pedals for 20 years. I only used boss when I was a kid bc I thought they were the only good ones. Ibanez seemed like a cheaper knockoff there wasn’t all this variety. Chorus is that only Boss I still use and D2.
@@danielhenry4614yes it is utilized by a number of guitarists, idk if it's that common due to scarcity which is the main reason behind the ridiculous price but it is an amazing dry signal boost/preamp. It is most famously used by John Frusciante starting even before joining the Chili Peppers and to this very day and it is considered one of three must-have effects if chasing his tone no matter what era of his you are trying for along with the Boss DS-2 and a Muff style fuzz.
MXR is the best with the low mid and high EQ versatility. I have tried a million chorus pedals. Meistersinger is very nice too with the blend control. MXR is my fav.
Ditto man. I find it remarkable that Andertons are producing content far more interesting than traditional broadcasters BBC 2 and 4 as an example. For relatively little money.
Maybe because its a family operated company, Lee has almost total control, its not so formal and you feel somehow connected, and they are always up to date with the latest gear. You have to like guitar stuff though.
Other people have comment about these issues already, but when the Small Clone gets "demo'd" at 15:20, the JHS pedal is the one activated, and JHS pedal is also in vibrato mode! I love this series and think it's such a good way to compare pedals, but also mistakes like that kind of undermines the whole point--maybe now someone won't buy a Small Clone because of how it "sounds" here, even though they are actually listening to a JHS chorus in vibrato mode. (I have a Small Clone that I love, and I was wondering why it sounded so different here, until I read the comments...)
Yeah it’s really strange that this experienced professional pedal tester didn’t notice that. I noticed immediately that it didn’t sound like a Small Clone at all, and he even twisted the knobs without the sound changing. Like how? Either he was half asleep or his ears aren’t very good.
I love the format of these videos, but it’s slightly frustrating when a good pedal gets shafted because the loop order is mixed up. You guys should use colored patch cables.
@@noahrobinson1913 I'll check that out, but I'd have to pay import fees on that if I can't find a place in the UK that sells them. Still not as much as the Boss obviously, but yeah, I'll most likely end up with the CE-2W just so I can try out a Waza reissue before Boss release the HM-2W that I'm super excited for haha.
My old MXR yellow box chorus died. I bought a Behringer, but its really too subtle. My favorites were the Angel Wing and the Strymon, so for $50 vs $ 300 its an easy choice. I'm sure the Strymon can do more , but just for the normal range use the Angel Wing was unbeatable.
Nice you had a _real_ cheapy in there. Shame you didn't do that with the "Tube Screamers" too. AND ... Behringer plastics do not break, everyone says they will but there is no evidence for it (but don't clean them with isopropyl alcohol as it dissolves the print I found (doh !)). Thanks, rankers.
It's been said before but it's pretty poor form that the JHS and the EHX got mixed up. They couldn't tell the knobs did nothing? Pete said the EHX almost sounded like a vibrato... maybe because he was actually playing the JHS in vibrato mode... *facepalm*. I'd love to see this re-done or corrected since those were two of the pedals I was most interested in. Happy to see the Behringer's Boss CH1 performed well though, for Boss' sake... ain't got no time for 'made in china' these days.
The funniest thing about Pete's expression "standing still but still moving" was that he basically explained how chorus works lol. Splits the signal in two then adds vibrato (moves) one side.
Anyone else put the Angel Wing top? First time I've played along with one of these and I put them all in the correct order besides Tone City at number 1 and Boss at number 2... Guess I know where the value for money is!
@@DerekHartley I have the Golden Plexi and I love it, absolutely brilliant for what you pay! Was going to buy a Boss chorus pedal but now I'm not so sure
I tested Waza one and ut amplifies signal like volume and also change guitar tone a bit much. Ive compared it in the same time with Julianna and she doesnt influence tone and volume so much. Boss has definetly stronger effect but Julianna is more musical to me if you properly set up her then its paradise. Im not stating that Boss is bad at all only that I have chossen base on musicality.
I like how the behringer does clones of a boss pedals(ultra chorus cloning super chorus) and many people say don't buy behringer and that they are noisier pedals yet in this video the noise floor sounded lower on the behringer than the boss. The mxr was extremely quiet tho, nothing came close to that
I read somewhere that Slash did not use chorus on Paradise City.... although it does sound like it. COOL TRICK... if you have a delay pedal, turn the delay time all the way down and the effect level up - this can give you a very cool chorus-like effect thats somewhere between chorus and reverb. Thank me later! 😂
That wil give you a Slap- or a Haas-Delay, depending on HOW short the shortest delay time of your pedal is; EXCEPT your pedal offers modulation, then you can do what you describe and basically use the modulation/chorus section of your delay pedal without (or at least very little) delay. I do that with my Malekko Ekko 616 all the time and prefer it to the various chorus pedals I (now) used to own.
I don't see the issue with Behringer being plastic. I have three of them, an out of production od400, a digital delay, and the tube screamer clone. I've had them for a decade and gigged them all the time. They always work and sound great. I'm a big guy and I've never destroyed one. Its not super thin plastic. I think its such an idiotic thing to be like...this disqualifies it.
The behringer 808 clone is epic for the money... josh at jhs a/b’d it against an original vintage 808 and it was honestly the most indiscernible difference I’ve heard between any TS style pedal lol
I'm not a big guy and am not rough on my gear. Really wish my Behringer bless overdrive had held together better. It sounds fantastic but the hinge in the for switch is cactus.
Personally I think people should have a my first pedalboard using Behringer, they have a single row($179Usd) and double row board($220Usd) with power supply and patch cables included and are in their own hardshell case - So TBH that is a great deal, Almost all the Behringer Pedals are $25 and you can get them on sale for $18 sometimes. I think I priced a full set $300Usd+Pedal board which puts you at around $500 grant it you are missing a couple effects, but when you are at the early stages I don't think you need them.
who else watches this, hoping that the pedals they already own do well in the blindfold test, only to feel miserable when you see your pedal coming in second last?
I had a Berhinger Ultra Chorus about 15 years ago that cost me £15. I sold it as I turned into a pedal snob and thought it was awful purely because it was cheap. How wrong I was... genuinely regretted selling it
Good catch! I love the video series, but they really need to catch stuff like that! I think it's pretty unfair to pedal makers to have a video go up like this and have their pedals sound bad simply because it's on the wrong setting (or because it's not even their pedal being played!). Kind of ruins the point of a shootout like this! When the pedals are all set correctly though, I do love the series
@@thomasbuchanan6235 correct. But when Pete said he didn’t like the sound because there was too much dry signal in there for his taste Lee didn’t even think to turn that knob a bit further towards “v” in order to adjust the mix for a bit more wet signal! 🤦🏼♂️😡 That continuous sweep of the mix is one of the big strengths of the Julia, or if you ignore it possibly one of the weaknesses because then you’re just leaving or chance whether you like the sound or not.
The key to the Small Clone, maybe more than any other as it has limited controls, is dialling in the sound. You seem to pick the odd spectrum rather than the beautiful warm spectrum - shame, as it's such a landmark example
I have one, and it’s ok. It’s a more mild chorus unless you max the knobs, even then it doesn’t sound that good. for that 80’s sound youre better off with a CE-2
Sound-wise, most Behringer pedals are actually pretty good (most being effectively circuitry-clones of older pedals, usually BOSS ones) - it's the build quality you have to watch out for. The UC-200 in particular is basically a BOSS CH-1 Super Chorus in a plastic box.
And I actually don't think they are as fragile as many people seem to think. I have a nice board with some expensive pedals, a Tone City tremolo (sounds great and has a volumeknob, wich is really nice!!) and this Behringer chorus that I really like. I know the video that Josh made about Behringer and he's right! Well, he usually is!! 😉
Sucks the lag knob on the Julia got overlooked. It’s exactly what Pete was looking to change but because capt didn’t know that, it just sat there sounding bad.
I also wanna point out the captain had it on the sine wave, not triangle wave. I prefer using the sine wave, but it would sound more like other choruses on triangle!
Chorus is simple, rate n depth only others just and extra features. If its sounds bad on the 2 settings it is bad. Just like speaker no such thing as need to breakup etc..if its sounds bad it is bad. Even it is break in will not drastically change everything
@@Mwhbmnabjms The fact that you'd rather have every pedal being simple doesn't mean all of them should be. I'm not a huge fan of the Julia but it's nice to see that it has more options that allow it to sound different. Yeah, the CE-2 sounds good, but it's only THAT sound, which probably gets boring pretty quickly.
@@Artec619 you got me wrongly, what I meant is other than the 2 knob rate n depth is just an extra features , it will not make a huge difference. If u trying out chorus pedal to set it rate n depth is the important part..if its sounds bad then it is bad. The extra features don’t make the huge difference. The main sound is important not the extra knob features.
I think you need to give JHS an apology, you didn't use it right at all, it wasn't even in the chorus setting! Loads of people are now going to think it's a crap pedal when in reality you just butchered the demo...disappointing from you guys
I was thinking the same thing, it’s a completely different pedal with the vibe function turned off. I think it would have been more in line with the other pedals if vibe had been turned off. I own this pedal, and several other JHS Series 3 pedals, and this is probably my favorite of the bunch.
It would be really cable intensive but it would make SO MUCH MORE SENSE for Pete to have control of the quartermaster and Lee to control the pedal controls... Then Pete can switch back and forth to compare at will (obviously still going through each one individually to start with) and then he can more easily know which pedal needs tweaking a certain way. At the moment there seems to be a lot of confusion which pedal is active or getting tweaked
The Julia is hard to set because it's so tweakable. Set the lag at three, the wave form to triangle, and you wouldn't be saying it doesn't sound like a chorus. Honestly, you should take a little time to try to get a similar sound from the pedals. This one and the JHS, too.
I love my MXR Analog great pedal does exactly what I need super solid construct like all MXR.Strymon is to me the high end pedal winner .And the Boss always souds great .
12:25 He's absolutely right about that MXR analog chorus imo. It's very polite, and I like that because I've had chorus pedals that color the tone way too much, but the MXR doesn't color your tone. It's just great.
Had it and loved it for a couple of years, but after rebuilding my board, I noticed some tone suck. Did some troubleshooting and discovered it was the Analog Chorus causing the issue. Did some research and found that many people had the same issue with it. Super unfortunate because I agree with your comment, but it really darkens the tone, even when disengaged.
@@fatninjacatmatt yep, just removed it for the same reason and sold it on, actually I had the Zakk Wylde one which is the same thing. It makes a big difference in particular when in bypass mode. It became even more obvious when I started using stereo with it.
As some commented earlier, MXR is a great sounding chorus when ON but it does suck tone when OFF, at least mine did. Got rid of it eventually. If MXR did a better job with bypassing this thing when OFF it would be a serious all-time contender for top 3, IMHO.
@@JosipAngeloBorovac I have never noticed what you're describing. I wonder if it might be because you're running it in front. I always run all my effects - minus drives, gates, and wahs - through the loop, including my MXR chorus.
If you look closely they didn't have that pedal on when they said they were using it. If you trace the cords they mixed the medals up. And I saw another comment mentioning that they may have not had it on a chorus setting.
Having got one of these the other day, it is a little confusing that the Vibe switch appears to be upside down! I do agree, though that it has got a beautiful chorus sound; shame they didn't pick up on that.
I think when Pete said the Julia sounded like it had too much clean signal, it was because the mix knob was at 12 which meant it wasn’t full chorus so he was right.
Dearly beloved... We are gathered here this day to discuss this thing called... standing still but moving.
Which is what happens on planet earth every day. You stand still, and you are flying through space at unholy rates ...
Reminded me of „Running to stand still“, by U2...
Electric words- Standing still but moving and it means forever...
@@brocluno01 Vito just igl
Wahwahwahwah
Pete died inside when he realised he’d put JHS last
That was good too. How about a wah shootout if you continue these challenges?
I bought a Behringer UC200 a couple of weeks ago to see what it is like..subtle...not as wild as my old Guyatone pedal but v good for price.vibrato more than chorus really but good.
Here's my blind rating:
Loop 2 - 8 of 10
Loop 6 - 8
Loop 8 - 7
Loop 1 - 6
Loop 3 - 6
Loop 7 - 5
Loop 5 - 5
Loop 4 - 4
boss is the boss, love it !
First question Pete should always be, any Electro Harmonix pedals Lee?
So, electro harmonics was the big winner in the last couple ones of these, but dropped the ball big-time today. Sounded pretty awful. Strymon however has been consistently in the top one or two, and that doesn’t even include all the extra features each of their pedals comes with. I’d say while they are the most expensive, they also do a pretty good job of justifying the expense. Today’s big winner, however, is the Behringer. Super affordable and sounded great.
Can we all have a moment of silence for all the jokes that Danish Pete didn't make this video?
Edit: Need to clarify that i'm not having a moan, just thought it should be known.
When Lee was turning the JHS knobs and NOTHING changed, that was because it was actually in loop four, not three! And it was in vibrato mode!!!!!!!! Sucks bc i own and love the JHS chorus and I want others to love it too. Dropped the ball on this one, guys :( Still good to hear them all, if not in the order you intended haha
Dropped the ball indeed. Learn how to use a pedal before you put out a video!
@@briandevlin269 It was a funny order to put them in but still a shame. I hope they pick up on it and correct it somehow in the video, or even just acknowledge it!
get this comment to the moon! i mean to the top!
Indeed. Follow the cables (for anyone else who was initially confused by the pedal placement vs loop number)
I concur!
New Anderton's YT genre- literally torturing Pete for our amusement.
On the JHS 3 Chorus you guys had the vibrato setting on the whole time. The toggle switch in the up position is from vibrato, and down is chorus. That's why Pete thought it sounded weird. FYI.
Thats JHS's fault. Don't have a switch that is blank in the up position and "vibe" in the down position. On a chorus pedal, blank should be chorus. More so dont name a setting the name of a completely different type of effect. So regardless of them getting it wrong, JHS got it wrong when they made the casing.
Honestly it's pretty irresponsible to do these shoot outs without know how to use a pedal. Kinda makes it a sh#t out not a shoot out. I just watched the JHS demo video where he clearly says toggle down for Chorus.
@@iceman10129 lol wtf is this stuff. people love tp in blame on anything else but not reading instructions
@@iceman10129I don't disagree with you, but It's irrelevant whose fault it is. On the other hand, It works like any toggle switch would or any light switch in your house where down is off and up is on. It probably would been better to move the toggle down 1 cm and put the vibe decal above it for more clarity.
@@briandevlin269 Mistakes happen. Not a big deal. At the end of the day, these shouldn't be taken to heart. Anderton's is much a content creator as they are a music retailer these days. This just for fun. I just wanted to point out the mistake. That's all.
The Boss is just “the” chorus. I agree. I also would love a flanger shootout.
to me its always a toss up between the mxr analog and boss
Tc electronic stereo chorus flanger
Boss is boss. Everyone chases boutique pedals and wastes a ton of money but it always comes back to boss.
Tbf that boss chorus ain’t cheap.
I’ve never had a Boss pedal break down.
Your post is completely wrong. The Boss waza craft is absolutely a boutique pedal. Only the Strymon Ola costs more than it new.
CE2 waza is $350 in Oz. Vintage CE2 is around $500. Since '84 ive never had ANY pedal break down on me ...boss HM2, Ross Distortion, Some Flanger/Feedbacker thing, George Denis Wah, Zoom G2, Dunlop Crybaby Wah, Joyo American Sound, NU>X Plexi Crunch, Boss SD1, Boss GE7.
...currently wondering if my ZoomG2 does a warm chorus equal in nice-ness to the CE2w? I avoid the Zoom a bit coz its overly complex (this is why i liked the CE2 original 2 dials only (simplicity), but if i find the time to set the parameters on the chorus options on the Zoom, then i can just store it on a bank, and its set it n forget it.
Agreed. I love boutique companies, and I love what they do. But my pedalboard is 90% Boss haha.
The star of this video is that tele, it sounds absolutely incredible
“Who would want a chorus to sound like that?”
Laughs in Mac Demarco
If he used chorus instead of vibrato
@@dorgsan he uses Chorus, but he tales away all of the dry signal so it sounds like vibrato.
He said this in a interview
@@cjo3730 you’re eight and I’m not arguing but its still achieved with a chorus pedal and not a vibrato.
Thats what he did with his old old pedalboard mate, he don't use chorus he uses a tc shaker vibrato now.
@@AKJ828i.e. his signal is absolutely drenched with reverb. Capos and studio manipulation of the speed of the guitar track are essential to his tone on studio albums.
Just a suggestion... maybe name the pedals A B C. Etc... instead of 1 2 3 ....so there less confusion when he’s placing them numerically first to worst... instead of “pedal 8 is number 1” you’d have pedal H is number 1” ....all the numbers get confusing for Pete, and us....
do FLANGERs please. What really is a great sounding flanger? more Jetty? transparent and subtle? versitile?
JETTY all the way.
Moog MF-Flange good for Jet Flange after Distortion but it's a rare pedal, ThorpyFX Camoflange good for shimmering cleans, Donner Jet Convolution (or Mooer E-Lady) can do both pretty well and has an internal trimpot to adjust time, when you're in doubt just get the Donner it's dirt cheap and does Deluxe Electric Mistress sounds.
Jet jet jet!! Whooooooosshhhhhhhhhh
Boss is so hard to beat overall.
If they had put the Boss Dimension in there it would have been no contest.
Lee not changing the lag or waveform on the Julia was killing me lol.
Thought the exact same thing
That’s because the white noise gets unbearable when the lag gets turned up on this pedal
@@bryanj386 Weird, I don't experience that at all on my board?
I’m loving this series. It’s a shame about the mix up with EHX and JHS as neither were given a chance as they were not tweaked correctly. The Small Clone with the depth switch engaged and rate turned down is a great sound.
Precisement
DC-2/DC-2W is my favorite. Mr. Black and Past FX also make some great chorus pedals.
I see Pete and chorus...I press like...
I wondered why the Small Clone sounded like my JHS 3 in vibe mode, turns out it's because that's exactly what happened! Slight loop order issue. Easily done, but I feel bad for JHS and EHX not getting a fair crack at this one! The JHS 3 is really nice. That Boss Waza is seriously great sounding.
I like the background phase of the JHS, this was a great shoot and a real eye-opener for me. The Small Clone is a great pedal as well
Maybe use letters (A-H) for the pedals next time, makes it less confusing. Anyway, I really like this format!
Great idea!
Loving these blindfold shootouts! Cheers Captain and Pete!!
We've got a Klon shootout coming next... Now that's going to be a good one!
@@andertons I think it would be fitting to use tele Troublemaker for that one.
Nice @@andertons!
Bah. The JHS Show has already done it. Sneak preview: they all sounded the same.
Surprisingly, the Angel Wing was the one I liked the most. Shout out to the Behringer pedal... a perfectly usable chorus.
when they tried to get the "last train home" tone, lee was saying he thought the tone city sounded closer to the original ce-2 than the ce-w. i've not played any of those pedals, but thought headphones i thought the same
Agreed. I'm now intrigued by the Angel Wing. I'll be on the lookout for that one.
Only thing I don't like about the Angel Wing is it doesn't take a battery.
@@sebastiencomeau3048 - I now use Li-Ion batteries for my whole pedal board, both for analog and digital pedals... It's eliminated any chance of grounding issues.
@@MarcCoteMusic how?
Classic Andertons video when there is a glaring mistake that virtually invalidates the whole video 😅
To me Chorus = Roland = Boss, so I've got the CE-2 Waza, and mostly use it on the CE-1 mode.
Pierre, I agree! You really hear it here, better than Strymon with all those knobs and whistles!
for me, chorus is tc scf haha
@@widescreennavelI thought it was metal zone? Lol actually that made me afraid of distortion pedals for 20 years. I only used boss when I was a kid bc I thought they were the only good ones. Ibanez seemed like a cheaper knockoff there wasn’t all this variety. Chorus is that only
Boss I still use and D2.
I just purchased one do you get volume increase when the ce1 mode is turned on
@@danielhenry4614yes it is utilized by a number of guitarists, idk if it's that common due to scarcity which is the main reason behind the ridiculous price but it is an amazing dry signal boost/preamp. It is most famously used by John Frusciante starting even before joining the Chili Peppers and to this very day and it is considered one of three must-have effects if chasing his tone no matter what era of his you are trying for along with the Boss DS-2 and a Muff style fuzz.
MXR is the best with the low mid and high EQ versatility. I have tried a million chorus pedals. Meistersinger is very nice too with the blend control. MXR is my fav.
God, I'm loving this series. And really want to see how deep it goes... Like a clean boost shout-out, compression, etc...
clean boost shootout! 🤣
CE-2 has always been my favorite. That and the yellow stereo chorus from MXR. Love those two.
The MXR analog chorus has been on my board longer than any other pedal
I used to own half a dozen original MXR pedals! I bought them new when they came out who knew they'd be worth so much now.
Im sitting here snowed-in, in corona lockdown with evening curfew, but no matter what, theres always a video from Andertons to watch.
tickin those 3 boxes means your dutch like me . andertons need a nobel prize for getting people tru hey
@@CunningStuntsGoFast You got that right, Andertons heeft behoorlijk wat Nederlandse fans zo te zien. Groeten uit Groningen
@@maacrl idd , they helped me trough all the lockdowns and even made me buy gear i did not even know i needed ) gr vanaf de veluwe
Ditto man. I find it remarkable that Andertons are producing content far more interesting than traditional broadcasters BBC 2 and 4 as an example. For relatively little money.
Maybe because its a family operated company, Lee has almost total control, its not so formal and you feel somehow connected, and they are always up to date with the latest gear. You have to like guitar stuff though.
“Sometimes you go too deep and it’s painful, you’ll break something.”
LOL, the Cap is packing a hog.
Thanks for tuning in to another Andertons Blindfold Challenge.
Make sure to comment below on which chorus pedal was your favourite? 🤘
Quartermaster pedal order listed below:
1 - Julia, 2 - Angel wing, 3 - JHS, 4 - EHX, 5 - MXR, 6 - Boss, 7 - Behringer Ultra Chorus, - 8 Strymon
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12:57
Pete: "Who would use that?!"
John Scofield: "Hold my beer..."
That tele is incredible...
Other people have comment about these issues already, but when the Small Clone gets "demo'd" at 15:20, the JHS pedal is the one activated, and JHS pedal is also in vibrato mode!
I love this series and think it's such a good way to compare pedals, but also mistakes like that kind of undermines the whole point--maybe now someone won't buy a Small Clone because of how it "sounds" here, even though they are actually listening to a JHS chorus in vibrato mode. (I have a Small Clone that I love, and I was wondering why it sounded so different here, until I read the comments...)
Yeah it’s really strange that this experienced professional pedal tester didn’t notice that. I noticed immediately that it didn’t sound like a Small Clone at all, and he even twisted the knobs without the sound changing. Like how? Either he was half asleep or his ears aren’t very good.
Small Clone is the outlier here. It is more like a spinning speaker simulation than a true chorus. Great pedal, but a little different.
That Angel Wing rules. 45 pounds for what sounds identical to the Waza on the final settings - no brainer.
I love the format of these videos, but it’s slightly frustrating when a good pedal gets shafted because the loop order is mixed up. You guys should use colored patch cables.
I have the berringer chorus and its amazing. All the berringer pedals I own are exceptional
Been looking at chorus pedals the last couple of days, it's kinda spooky that this shows up today.
It's almost like we know... Hope this video helped with your choice!
@@andertons Yes it did haha, I was looking at the Boss CE-2W, the last clip where Pete played it sold me on it so I'll get that one ASAP haha.
@@dildicus8625 depending on price point joyo makes a ce2 clone so you can test it out before you pull yhe trigger
@@noahrobinson1913 I'll check that out, but I'd have to pay import fees on that if I can't find a place in the UK that sells them. Still not as much as the Boss obviously, but yeah, I'll most likely end up with the CE-2W just so I can try out a Waza reissue before Boss release the HM-2W that I'm super excited for haha.
@@dildicus8625 You won't be disappointed with the CE-2w.
My old MXR yellow box chorus died. I bought a Behringer, but its really too subtle. My favorites were the Angel Wing and the Strymon, so for $50 vs $ 300 its an easy choice. I'm sure the Strymon can do more , but just for the normal range use the Angel Wing was unbeatable.
Nice you had a _real_ cheapy in there. Shame you didn't do that with the "Tube Screamers" too. AND ... Behringer plastics do not break, everyone says they will but there is no evidence for it (but don't clean them with isopropyl alcohol as it dissolves the print I found (doh !)). Thanks, rankers.
One of mine did after I had a heater on near the pedal on the floor. Whole top just cracked off. 💔
@@ishancooper You cooked it. Same thing happened to a Boss pedal I owned when I dropped it in the fires of Mount Doom.
@@Twirlyhead Haha True!
I love using the Boss CE-1. It's great for playing covers of 90's acoustic songs.
It's been said before but it's pretty poor form that the JHS and the EHX got mixed up. They couldn't tell the knobs did nothing? Pete said the EHX almost sounded like a vibrato... maybe because he was actually playing the JHS in vibrato mode... *facepalm*. I'd love to see this re-done or corrected since those were two of the pedals I was most interested in. Happy to see the Behringer's Boss CH1 performed well though, for Boss' sake... ain't got no time for 'made in china' these days.
The funniest thing about Pete's expression "standing still but still moving" was that he basically explained how chorus works lol. Splits the signal in two then adds vibrato (moves) one side.
My beloved MXR Chorus lost... I need to stop betting on these episodes...
They didn't use the proper set up for the eq. I think MXR is the best.
Pete's new love song tittle:
"I'm standing still while being polite."
Anyone else put the Angel Wing top? First time I've played along with one of these and I put them all in the correct order besides Tone City at number 1 and Boss at number 2... Guess I know where the value for money is!
Honestly you really can't go wrong with a Tone City pedal. Great sound and solidly built. And of course the price can't be beaten.
@@DerekHartley I have the Golden Plexi and I love it, absolutely brilliant for what you pay! Was going to buy a Boss chorus pedal but now I'm not so sure
Can't argue with the value, that and the boss sound great! I recently got the Bad Horse from tone city and I'm really pleased with it.
Angel Wing sounded great!
In the least shocking new ever. The Boss CE-2 wins. Greatest chorus ever.
I tested Waza one and ut amplifies signal like volume and also change guitar tone a bit much. Ive compared it in the same time with Julianna and she doesnt influence tone and volume so much. Boss has definetly stronger effect but Julianna is more musical to me if you properly set up her then its paradise. Im not stating that Boss is bad at all only that I have chossen base on musicality.
Messed up a bit on this one. Surprised nobody noticed.
I like how the behringer does clones of a boss pedals(ultra chorus cloning super chorus) and many people say don't buy behringer and that they are noisier pedals yet in this video the noise floor sounded lower on the behringer than the boss. The mxr was extremely quiet tho, nothing came close to that
Ahh yes Pete, ear blindness, there should be a word for that...
What?! Say it louder please. I'm a little ear blind.
Comparing the noise floor was damn smart. Nice one Lee.
This would be a good start for all pedal shootouts.
Also very good content right there! Several seconds of near perfect silence, with growing tension: Will one of them be loud?
@@ardiris2715 I agree with you. They should do it in every episode.
I read somewhere that Slash did not use chorus on Paradise City.... although it does sound like it. COOL TRICK... if you have a delay pedal, turn the delay time all the way down and the effect level up - this can give you a very cool chorus-like effect thats somewhere between chorus and reverb. Thank me later! 😂
from what I have heard, slash had the original Roland Dimension rack unit used on Paradise City without him knowing.
That wil give you a Slap- or a Haas-Delay, depending on HOW short the shortest delay time of your pedal is; EXCEPT your pedal offers modulation, then you can do what you describe and basically use the modulation/chorus section of your delay pedal without (or at least very little) delay. I do that with my Malekko Ekko 616 all the time and prefer it to the various chorus pedals I (now) used to own.
I don't see the issue with Behringer being plastic. I have three of them, an out of production od400, a digital delay, and the tube screamer clone. I've had them for a decade and gigged them all the time. They always work and sound great. I'm a big guy and I've never destroyed one. Its not super thin plastic. I think its such an idiotic thing to be like...this disqualifies it.
Yeah, I have a few. It's very solid / nice feeling plastic. Almost feels like metal coated in plastic. Also, behringer is stereo out too!
Behringers come with three years of warranty too!
The behringer 808 clone is epic for the money... josh at jhs a/b’d it against an original vintage 808 and it was honestly the most indiscernible difference I’ve heard between any TS style pedal lol
I'm not a big guy and am not rough on my gear. Really wish my Behringer bless overdrive had held together better. It sounds fantastic but the hinge in the for switch is cactus.
Personally I think people should have a my first pedalboard using Behringer, they have a single row($179Usd) and double row board($220Usd) with power supply and patch cables included and are in their own hardshell case - So TBH that is a great deal, Almost all the Behringer Pedals are $25 and you can get them on sale for $18 sometimes. I think I priced a full set $300Usd+Pedal board which puts you at around $500 grant it you are missing a couple effects, but when you are at the early stages I don't think you need them.
relic guitar.....you intentionally buy damage....smart
but...you pay a premium for it. genius
Seeing as the Behringer is a clone of the boss ch1, boss gets 1st and 3rd place.
who else watches this, hoping that the pedals they already own do well in the blindfold test, only to feel miserable when you see your pedal coming in second last?
Pretty sure to give the MXR a better change, you need to make the High and Low Needs to but up to 10 since they are "cut" parameters
What's next "The ultimate blindfold, blindfold challenge"?
Brilliant comparison, I bought the UC200 on the basis of this, and it's every bit as good as it sounds in the video! Thanks!!
The Behringer is a great analogue clone of the Boss. Suits me at home. Love it.
Absolutely
I had a Berhinger Ultra Chorus about 15 years ago that cost me £15. I sold it as I turned into a pedal snob and thought it was awful purely because it was cheap. How wrong I was... genuinely regretted selling it
poor thing..now you need to spend a lousy 30 instead,,,as if you lost the hope diamond.,..they are crap beginner budget pedals
@@danieljester7752 the Chorus isn’t. 🤡
@@danieljester7752let me guess, youre going through your pedal snob phase
The Walrus was in full vibe mode!
JHS and EHX where reversed.
Apart from that, great video.
Good catch! I love the video series, but they really need to catch stuff like that! I think it's pretty unfair to pedal makers to have a video go up like this and have their pedals sound bad simply because it's on the wrong setting (or because it's not even their pedal being played!). Kind of ruins the point of a shootout like this! When the pedals are all set correctly though, I do love the series
the walrus was on dead center, which is chorus
@@thomasbuchanan6235 correct.
But when Pete said he didn’t like the sound because there was too much dry signal in there for his taste Lee didn’t even think to turn that knob a bit further towards “v” in order to adjust the mix for a bit more wet signal! 🤦🏼♂️😡
That continuous sweep of the mix is one of the big strengths of the Julia, or if you ignore it possibly one of the weaknesses because then you’re just leaving or chance whether you like the sound or not.
Lee is often shitting the other guy down, interrupting him and not allowing him to finish statements. Why?
The key to the Small Clone, maybe more than any other as it has limited controls, is dialling in the sound. You seem to pick the odd spectrum rather than the beautiful warm spectrum - shame, as it's such a landmark example
I run mine with the depth switch up and the rate set low, haven't found anything else that matches it yet.
Really tempted to get the tone city pedal from this demo. Seems to do everything for basic mono chorus and sound good.
I’ve had a ton of chorus pedals and always come back to an old CE2.
Uli owns the company that makes everyone’s bucket brigade chips so who really wins 🤷🏼♀️
chi??
Both the Strymon and the JHS are digital. Probably the Julia too. No BB chips there.
The Walrus chorus is AWFUL but the Lilian phaser is very nice.
Chorus is one of my favorite effects, (80s childhood can’t help it), I think I may have to add one of the MXR’s to my arsenal!
I have one, and it’s ok. It’s a more mild chorus unless you max the knobs, even then it doesn’t sound that good. for that 80’s sound youre better off with a CE-2
Thanks for the info! I had an Arion SCH and really enjoyed it!
mxr is the best in house and for a big stage it is the boss. that is the propper reply..so no more wondering..eye am rite.
Sound-wise, most Behringer pedals are actually pretty good (most being effectively circuitry-clones of older pedals, usually BOSS ones) - it's the build quality you have to watch out for. The UC-200 in particular is basically a BOSS CH-1 Super Chorus in a plastic box.
And I actually don't think they are as fragile as many people seem to think. I have a nice board with some expensive pedals, a Tone City tremolo (sounds great and has a volumeknob, wich is really nice!!) and this Behringer chorus that I really like. I know the video that Josh made about Behringer and he's right! Well, he usually is!! 😉
These videos are really pointless if you can't be bothered to learn what the knobs of each pedal do.
Sucks the lag knob on the Julia got overlooked. It’s exactly what Pete was looking to change but because capt didn’t know that, it just sat there sounding bad.
I also wanna point out the captain had it on the sine wave, not triangle wave. I prefer using the sine wave, but it would sound more like other choruses on triangle!
Chorus is simple, rate n depth only others just and extra features. If its sounds bad on the 2 settings it is bad. Just like speaker no such thing as need to breakup etc..if its sounds bad it is bad. Even it is break in will not drastically change everything
@@Mwhbmnabjms The fact that you'd rather have every pedal being simple doesn't mean all of them should be. I'm not a huge fan of the Julia but it's nice to see that it has more options that allow it to sound different. Yeah, the CE-2 sounds good, but it's only THAT sound, which probably gets boring pretty quickly.
The captain did know, but you can't change it because then it gives away the price of the pedal, which is the game
@@Artec619 you got me wrongly, what I meant is other than the 2 knob rate n depth is just an extra features , it will not make a huge difference. If u trying out chorus pedal to set it rate n depth is the important part..if its sounds bad then it is bad. The extra features don’t make the huge difference. The main sound is important not the extra knob features.
Relicing is stupid. Trying to buy a guitar some fake history.
Quick..get me a lighter so I can wave it in the air.....great video as always..👍
If there's one thing Pete loves it's a chorus pedal! Thanks for tuning in.
Why not do a test with an overdriven Marshall and the different chorus pedals?
I think you need to give JHS an apology, you didn't use it right at all, it wasn't even in the chorus setting! Loads of people are now going to think it's a crap pedal when in reality you just butchered the demo...disappointing from you guys
I was thinking the same thing, it’s a completely different pedal with the vibe function turned off. I think it would have been more in line with the other pedals if vibe had been turned off. I own this pedal, and several other JHS Series 3 pedals, and this is probably my favorite of the bunch.
Can you refrain from saying "slow and deep" when I'm about to take a swig of water. Nearly choked.
You had the Julia in the wrong setting......
My favorite was actually the Angel Wing, and I had no idea of the price.
Just bought one after seeing this
@@GAFloppa Same. Literally paused the video, bought one, and came back lol. That thing is INSANE for the price.
Why didn't they bring original CE-2?
How about adding rat style distortions to the list, after the klons and fuzzes? can you dig it, gentlemen?
Managed to do a disservice to 3 great pedals because Lee didn't know how to use them, and the Loops seemed to be messed up. Such a shame
It would be really cable intensive but it would make SO MUCH MORE SENSE for Pete to have control of the quartermaster and Lee to control the pedal controls... Then Pete can switch back and forth to compare at will (obviously still going through each one individually to start with) and then he can more easily know which pedal needs tweaking a certain way. At the moment there seems to be a lot of confusion which pedal is active or getting tweaked
The Julia is hard to set because it's so tweakable. Set the lag at three, the wave form to triangle, and you wouldn't be saying it doesn't sound like a chorus. Honestly, you should take a little time to try to get a similar sound from the pedals. This one and the JHS, too.
I have the angel wing I think it’s fantastic for the money
I have not yet watched the video but I am looking for EHX to come in #1 or #2 spots! CoFfEe!!!
"A carousel horse, who is constantly lost
Standing still but always running"
Metal Church - Waiting for a Savior
Wow, majority of these choruses suck. Or don't work as indended IDK. Why Small Clone sounds like a vibrato here?
Check the other comments, the EHX was actually another pedal, they got the order wrong
I like the Angel Wing and the CE-2w best.
I have a CE-2W and felt the same way. If I'd known of the Angel Wing I would have given it a try and maybe skipped the Boss.
I love my MXR Analog great pedal does exactly what I need super solid construct like all MXR.Strymon is to me the high end pedal winner .And the Boss always souds great .
12:25 He's absolutely right about that MXR analog chorus imo. It's very polite, and I like that because I've had chorus pedals that color the tone way too much, but the MXR doesn't color your tone. It's just great.
Had it and loved it for a couple of years, but after rebuilding my board, I noticed some tone suck. Did some troubleshooting and discovered it was the Analog Chorus causing the issue. Did some research and found that many people had the same issue with it. Super unfortunate because I agree with your comment, but it really darkens the tone, even when disengaged.
@@fatninjacatmatt yep, just removed it for the same reason and sold it on, actually I had the Zakk Wylde one which is the same thing. It makes a big difference in particular when in bypass mode. It became even more obvious when I started using stereo with it.
As some commented earlier, MXR is a great sounding chorus when ON but it does suck tone when OFF, at least mine did. Got rid of it eventually. If MXR did a better job with bypassing this thing when OFF it would be a serious all-time contender for top 3, IMHO.
@@JosipAngeloBorovac I have never noticed what you're describing. I wonder if it might be because you're running it in front. I always run all my effects - minus drives, gates, and wahs - through the loop, including my MXR chorus.
Proper demo of EHX small clone capabilities: th-cam.com/video/dC0bnyYoSII/w-d-xo.html
I feel like the JHS chorus didn’t see it’s full potential here. Sounds incredible! I own one myself
If you look closely they didn't have that pedal on when they said they were using it. If you trace the cords they mixed the medals up. And I saw another comment mentioning that they may have not had it on a chorus setting.
It was in vibrato mode… they did not Even hear the chorus
Having got one of these the other day, it is a little confusing that the Vibe switch appears to be upside down!
I do agree, though that it has got a beautiful chorus sound; shame they didn't pick up on that.
@@vkb12357 pedals not medals.
I think when Pete said the Julia sounded like it had too much clean signal, it was because the mix knob was at 12 which meant it wasn’t full chorus so he was right.