@cobowe Good news! BOSS have released the RE-2 and RE-202 pedals, which are a dead-on sonic re-creation of the old Roland RE-201 Space Echo tape unit. Stack a CE-2W switched to CE-1 chorus mode in front of an RE-2 or RE-202 and Bob's your uncle. Another option with this setup is to parallel blend the chorus and delay with a BOSS LS-2 line selector pedal in A+B mix mode. Total cost: between $480 and $760, depending on which pedals you go with. Still far less than the minimum $1,795 that Reverb sellers are currently asking for functioning RE-301's.
I still have the CE-2 my Mom bought for me in 1985 from Thoroughbred Music in Tampa, FL. It was my only chorus pedal until around 2013. The thing I notice about the CE-2 is that it gives me a bit of a volume boost when it is engaged. But it has always been the best chorus sound I have ever had!
You know you're good mates when someone else turns your volume pot down. Love it. Mick is always conscious of recording levels and Dan doesn't even blink. One mind in two bodies.
I sold my old CE-1 to a local shop and it has been languishing in the pedal case, unpurchased, for some time now.... and I really want to go buy it back now. Thanks a lot :)
Mick so nearly slipped into who can it be now, love it. Those midnight oil tones are unreal too, so underrated in this country. I too stupidly sold a ce2... Well not stupidly, bills needed paying but I'm now very glad there is something to fill the void.
Once again, Dan transcends what I believe is possible. I ALWAYS learn something new. I used to hate chorus, but his older video and this one made me love chorus. His old Chorus Ensemble is amazing! One thing old pedals do great is they make your core tone sound good when you dig in!
I find the brief exchange at 11:18 utterly disturbing...and that sort of mania is a huge reason I love this channel so much. We all need a little analysis. And thanks for the mini-demonstration with the delay to explain chorusing.
+Bruce Johnson Hahahah! Dan and I were having a discussion that relates to this just today. It's to do with the difference of being excited and inspired by something, and trying to demonstrate something that you're not really interested in. We're going to become increasingly disinterested in stuff that doesn't interest us, because neither of us have enough hours left in our lives to devote to stuff that does. (How's that for a sentence?) So yeah, that Totally Impractical Pedalboard challenge is currently riding much higher on the list than 'WTF didn't you include the //insert random chorus pedal here// video. Hooray for being inspired. Yawn to making pragmatic choices.
Another great show guys! I don't play guitar (I'm a bassplayer) but still watch your shows because they're informative, fun and such a labour of love. Keep it up!
Now you nailed the Voice mic volume guys! Some of your last vids were a little hard to hear you talking, but this one, spot on! Tks for another great one! Cheers
I was working while listening to this shootout. Didn't catch what these guys said, but when the sound of the BOSS CE-1 out, I just stop working and came to check which pedal it was. I guess there is indeed something special in the vintage pedal.
Wow CE-1 = instand Cyndi Lauper "Time After Time" tone....so many classics written on that pedal. Really amazing and intelligent video guys, first time viewing, awesome comparisons with the genuine articles. Couldn't think of a better way to do it if I tried, so informative. Thank you!
ianA You can certainly get the same effect for that song through a Ce-1 or something like it. However, the Publison DHM 89 b2 is the rack unit used on Time After Time, and all over the She’s So Unusual record. The engineer did an interview online about it. It’s an amazing unit, and utilizes more of the delay type chorus.
favourite video so far chaps. honourable mention for the old mij pearl ch01 which kicked an analogman bichorus off my board and is my personal desert island pedal.
I was given a CE-2 in 2003 and used to run it with a Cool Cat. One was set fast and the other slower. I wish I had never traded it. The Angel Wing sounds amazing for the money. Can nail those Gilmour, Summers and Lifeson sounds.
Andertons did this with on their channel when they first came out. Only one I remember was the Blues driver which there was basically zero noticeable difference between the waza and the regular standard one (at least on youtube).
There's your next video idea - a pedalboard of amazing but impractical gear (big Boss chorus, tape echo, big box Big Muff, etc.). All the biggest, most amazing, most impractical gear you can find. Slap it all on a Pedaltrain pro.
I ordered my CE-2w today....I can't wait! I personally don't care for the breakup on the original on the CE-1, but the chorus sound of the CE-1 is the best.
This episode will be my happy place for a good while. The Boss CE2 was my gateway into playing guitar simply because my early 80s budget strat knock off had appalling tuning issues and using chorus made the sound much more palatable. Lovely to hear the JC120 in action as well and even today, nothing really comes close to that epic chorus width that the twin speaker setup imparts. Excellent stuff as always chaps.
I used to have the CE2 and loved it, but sold it. I watched this video when it came out and loved the Waza and finally got one this week. I love it and I hear what you are saying about the CE1 with the overdrive thing, but you can get that with other pedals,boosts in to the chorus to acheive that. And Boss pedals are indestructible, I still have a SD1 33 years old.
If you can find a Roland Guitar System GS6 rack unit it contains four different Chorus models including the original CE1, CE2, Chorus Ensemble, and later Roland Jazz Chorus amp models. The GS6 has fully adjustable delay times, depth, speed, panning stereo options and stereo placement options. It can be thought of as Jazz Chorus Amp in rack form. The delay time and reverb section can achieve flanging, through-zero flanging, Leslie Rotary, and Uni-Vibe type sounds. The delay section has panning, e.q. control, types of delay including tape style, and the reverb section is fantastic, including the Spring Reverb model. The effects can be route in various configurations. It's a recommended secondhand purchase for Roland Chorus fans. It also has rotary controls and 64 memory slots. The preamp models are pretty good too.
Excellent episode, even for me being not a chorus fan. That Wazacraft is a gem! Free-the-tone is a very interesting one (everything that guy builds is simply put: superb). Thank you Mick & Dan.
Just found this channel. What a great pair of guys. Really enjoyed the video. No smart ass ego nonsense. Just honest and thorough comparisons as if you're right here in my own living room. Keep up the terrific work, fellas. Greetings from Brisbane.
I cannot answer that without knowing your rig details. But...my CE-2 (Batch#200 *pre-serial number!!* ) sounds better than the Waza imho The Maxon Ambient Stereo Chorus is also worth a look. Brett Kingman has a nice demo on youtube,
Hi Guys - another great show. When I researched for a substitute for my beloved CE1, I found the Retro Sonic CE-1. To me it is "exactly" the same as the old Boss CE1, but without the noise, and running on 9 volt, standard. The guy who made it also supplied a "how to" remove one resistance, depending on if I wanted the original high-cut from the old Boss or a more neutral sound from the Retro Sonic. I haven't heard the new, more grey colored version he is building now, but the first original, came really close, and sounded better than the new Boss products to my worn out ears :-) Ok, is doesn't have the input gain issue, some love ... :-) Another small comment - to my ears, it sound like the Waza has slightly longer delay, than the CE2 ... seems (at least in this video) that the chorused signal is a little longer away from the original signal on the Waza. So the dobbling effect gets a little stronger from the Waza and therefor slightly more crispy?!?! Haven't heard them any of the two in real world - just an impression from you excellent work. All the very best - Soren BTW - Very nice to say hello to you when you visited Copenhagen - cheers S
TC electronics Corona full size pedal with sweetwater CE-2 Redo tone print, Sweetwater Dimension M tone print, the tri-chorus tone prints, and more makes for an affordable and good sounding alternative to dropping hundreds per pedal on wazacraft that ultimately doesn’t sound like the originals they claim to reproduce anyway. How come you guys never do TC stuff? Not a dealer for them?
Now check out the giants of rack chorus: Roland Dimention D, tc electronic stereo chorus/flanger expander and a DyTronics Tri Stereo Chorus or a Fulltone terc!
I have to confess;I really do love chorus,or rather,anything that simulates a Leslie.In the '60(yes,I'm old)it was a Guild RotoVerb.I went through 3,since they were the original gooped-up pedal & could not be repaired.The mid'70s saw a Maestro Phase shifter;3 speeds with ramp up & down.The early '80s saw a souped-up Strat(Lawrence Blades & an Alembic Stratoblaster)with,yes,a Boss CE-1through an EP-3.My Adrian Belew period.Still have the CE-1.Then a soul band,so a Boss CE-3,for it's size.When it finally developed a bit of tone suck,I went to a TC Corona. But now,I've transitioned to a Leslie simulator,a DLS RotoSIM.It produces a very reasonable Leslie,& is tweakable. Maybe a Leslie simulator comparison?
Martin Rotsey also used a CE1 with white strat and twin AC30s especially great on place w/o a postcard and 10 to 1. Cant decide between Jim or Marty as my favourite. Martins best stuff is pre red sails.
I have played every pedal featured here except for Tone City and an original CE-1. The CE-2w is currently on my board. Analogman an amazing pedal, but I wanted a very specific tone. The Boss is THE pedal for the 80's chorus sounds. Running a low gain OD in front of the CE-1 setting nails that sound. I'm surprised the Small Clone wasn't covered more, it is a classic analog circuit that is inexpensive and sounds great.
Never thought I would use chorus, but I got my hands on an original CE-2 from 1979. I set it for more vibe-ish wobbly sound than 80's ballad sounds though. Love it!
I actually can't stand chorus at all. And yet, here I am happily enjoying you guys go on about it for 45 minutes straight. I love what you're doing. And because of this, consider yourselves Patreon-ed!
Hi, guys! I know you guys have not covered this in this video, but it'd be great to get your guys' thoughts on the Strymon Ola Chorus & Vibrato pedal. I think it's one of the least-talked about chorus/vibrato pedals as well as one of the most underrated Strymon pedals and not many videos have covered this pedal as much. Thanks so much to you both. Cheers from California. -David
Great show guys! My pedal board claim to fame is that my Boss CE-2 was previously owned by the guitarist of 90's 1 hit wonder band Stiltskin. Love it to bits. :)
You know, I've shelved my Boss CH-1 Super Chorus for the time being but I'm glad I've hung on to it. You guys always point out cool things you can do with just subtle additions of a pedal's sound to the mix. Thanks as always for another great show.
Oh man I am all over that Waza, I've needed to replace my crappy little plastic Behringer multi-effects for so long and this one absolutely nails it, can't wait to nab this one!
I got my CE-2 after seeing David Lindley and El Rayo-X in the early '80's. He had his set with the Rate at 10:30 and Depth at 2:00 give or take a few minutes. That's where I almost always put it and it's a great rhythm guitar tone. If I were to go out and buy a new chorus the Waza would be my first one to try, but the Free the Tone would be an option if it were in my budget. Keep up the good work guys!
Should have had the Jam Waterfall in this review. Most stunning chorus since the original Roland circuit. It's like a blissful underwater rotary speaker......amazing pedal.
Great vid man. You guys are getting better and better at the demo thing for sure. Your channel is pretty much my "go to" to determine how a pedal sounds, that I've never heard before. Also your gear is very good.....hah....amps, geetars, etc.
I Love Alex Lifeson. That guy is a Monster. He is a Huge CE-1 guy, to get that Huge Sound in a 3 piece. All the guys in Rush are just " Raw Talent " I used to play in 3 piece band, that did tons of Rush & Police and I had an Original CE-2 and and Ibanez Bi-Mode Dual Analog Chorus. ( that Ibanez Pedal was very underrated )
I was actually shocked when I heard that there is a decent number of people who talk trash about chorus. I always figured it was one of the standard effects on basically everybody's pedalboard.
Hey guys, there were some sentences in this show, that made me think - Like the occasional "I got that on my board", "The Chorus that I use" and of course "Not because I'm an idiot, it's because I'm usually singing" - So what we all NEED to know is how your everyday rigs and gigging situations are, which Amps and Pedals do you take to what kind of gigs (...style of music, kind of band, size of venue, temper of promoter...). But maybe this post is redundant because it is all coming along in the "Guitars & Gear"-Videos. Anyway, what a great way to start a lazy sunday with two or three mugs of coffee and listening to you guys tinkering away with some lovely wobbly sounds. Thanks so much and Cheers!
+Thomas Lange Cheers Thomas. Dan has a run of gigs coming up with his band Tin Spirits so maybe there's a show there. Both of our boards change almost daily - to the point where I don't really have one at all - so doing a show would be instantly out of date. If we have projects on the go, maybe we could focus on the stuff chosen, that might work. I tend to do last minute fill-ins and the odd mates reunion for fun; parties, open mics maybe, but aside from that I lost a lot of love for playing live in bands regularly a few years ago. Haven't really put it back together since! Cheers.
Hey guys, love the show and have learnt so much from watching it! I realise that you do feature cheaper pedals in many of your videos but it would be great if for a future video you both choose some of your favourite budget pedals (maybe under £100). This would be great for people like me who love gear but haven't always got tonnes of money to spend! Thanks for all the great stuff guys keep it coming!!!
45 min on Chorus. Reminded of why I love this show. Awesome stuff.
Its awesome!! And i dont even like chorus pedals
Someone always beats me to the comment I want to leave...lol
Very interested in the CE-2w after watching this. Surprised that to me it actually sounded *better* than the original pedals
The face on Daniel when he imagined the CE-1 with a Tape Delay...Priceless!
I used to have a Roland 301
Which is exactly that!!
They are stupid money now
@cobowe Good news! BOSS have released the RE-2 and RE-202 pedals, which are a dead-on sonic re-creation of the old Roland RE-201 Space Echo tape unit. Stack a CE-2W switched to CE-1 chorus mode in front of an RE-2 or RE-202 and Bob's your uncle. Another option with this setup is to parallel blend the chorus and delay with a BOSS LS-2 line selector pedal in A+B mix mode. Total cost: between $480 and $760, depending on which pedals you go with. Still far less than the minimum $1,795 that Reverb sellers are currently asking for functioning RE-301's.
I still have the CE-2 my Mom bought for me in 1985 from Thoroughbred Music in Tampa, FL. It was my only chorus pedal until around 2013. The thing I notice about the CE-2 is that it gives me a bit of a volume boost when it is engaged. But it has always been the best chorus sound I have ever had!
+Ty Barnes Yep - like a low mid kick or something. I like it for that!
You know you're good mates when someone else turns your volume pot down. Love it. Mick is always conscious of recording levels and Dan doesn't even blink. One mind in two bodies.
The demonstration of how Chorus works using a delay pedal was genius!
My missus says it's not a chorus pedal unless it's light blue.
+Darryld1 She is obviously a wonderful woman.
I also rigged her up with a Waza switch and now she also modulates in pitch as well as in time. Who knew?
I knew.
@@Ravensongcalvinbatley Everyone knew except Darryl.
She modulates harder when i activate her flange
How to start my Friday before classes?
With a little bit of Dan and Mick.
My BOSS Me-2 is something else...been rocking with it for the 35+ years of it and it has never let me down
I sold my old CE-1 to a local shop and it has been languishing in the pedal case, unpurchased, for some time now.... and I really want to go buy it back now. Thanks a lot :)
Mick so nearly slipped into who can it be now, love it. Those midnight oil tones are unreal too, so underrated in this country. I too stupidly sold a ce2... Well not stupidly, bills needed paying but I'm now very glad there is something to fill the void.
Yeah absolutely. Listen to the tones on Place Without A Postcard and there is some sick chorus + distortion going on.
Once again, Dan transcends what I believe is possible. I ALWAYS learn something new. I used to hate chorus, but his older video and this one made me love chorus. His old Chorus Ensemble is amazing! One thing old pedals do great is they make your core tone sound good when you dig in!
I love Midnight Oil getting a mention, one of my favourite bands.
For me, this is for sure my favorite episode. I got the Waza and it fits like a glove for me. I love hearing those comparisons between the three.
Question! Do you use the Waza in mono out? Or stereo out? Does it really matter?
I find the brief exchange at 11:18 utterly disturbing...and that sort of mania is a huge reason I love this channel so much. We all need a little analysis. And thanks for the mini-demonstration with the delay to explain chorusing.
+Bruce Johnson Hahahah! Dan and I were having a discussion that relates to this just today. It's to do with the difference of being excited and inspired by something, and trying to demonstrate something that you're not really interested in. We're going to become increasingly disinterested in stuff that doesn't interest us, because neither of us have enough hours left in our lives to devote to stuff that does. (How's that for a sentence?)
So yeah, that Totally Impractical Pedalboard challenge is currently riding much higher on the list than 'WTF didn't you include the //insert random chorus pedal here// video.
Hooray for being inspired. Yawn to making pragmatic choices.
Another great show guys! I don't play guitar (I'm a bassplayer) but still watch your shows because they're informative, fun and such a labour of love. Keep it up!
Ahh that makes me so happy.. Everytime I play through my chorus pedal I always play the intro to the crowded house song Don't dream its over.
That was in this. But I think Simon cut it. He was bored of endless 80s references and felt like we’d made the point.
The first pedal I bought with my first ever paycheck in the 80's was a CE2 and it's still on my board today. Love it.
Oh my god! Both of your faces at the prospect of the CE-1 with a Tape Delay. I'm impressed that you didn't stop filming right then and go and play!
Now you nailed the Voice mic volume guys! Some of your last vids were a little hard to hear you talking, but this one, spot on! Tks for another great one! Cheers
the CE - 1 will always be the best for me, not only for the chorus but the level control as well
My God, I love that JC-120 clean chorus tone; simply sublime.
I was working while listening to this shootout. Didn't catch what these guys said, but when the sound of the BOSS CE-1 out, I just stop working and came to check which pedal it was. I guess there is indeed something special in the vintage pedal.
you guys should totally do a live show! with special guests and house band everything!
+Mark Mai That would awesome. Maybe one day, if funds and time ever allow!
Wow CE-1 = instand Cyndi Lauper "Time After Time" tone....so many classics written on that pedal. Really amazing and intelligent video guys, first time viewing, awesome comparisons with the genuine articles. Couldn't think of a better way to do it if I tried, so informative. Thank you!
ianA You can certainly get the same effect for that song through a Ce-1 or something like it. However, the Publison DHM 89 b2 is the rack unit used on Time After Time, and all over the She’s So Unusual record. The engineer did an interview online about it. It’s an amazing unit, and utilizes more of the delay type chorus.
Dan, I also like the fact that it sound like you have an od when you dig in
Yep, it’s a massive part of the CE1 sound
favourite video so far chaps. honourable mention for the old mij pearl ch01 which kicked an analogman bichorus off my board and is my personal desert island pedal.
Can't stop watching your show.
finally know how to what to look for in a guitar pedal.
All this chorus, and not one Johnny Marr riff. ;-)
That has got to be punishable by law somewhere...
Heaven knows I'm miserable now.
Seriously!! Marr made chorus sound so cool
little did they know...
Mmmmmm.....So many delicious chorusy tones! I really need that new CE-2 Waza.
Just received a CE-1 from VRM Effect and came all the way back here to enjoy myself with chorusy episode. HAPPY DAYS!
Love the snippet of Echo Beach!
I was given a CE-2 in 2003 and used to run it with a Cool Cat. One was set fast and the other slower. I wish I had never traded it. The Angel Wing sounds amazing for the money. Can nail those Gilmour, Summers and Lifeson sounds.
Love to see more comparisons between original BOSS products and the Waza Craft stuff.
+John Falk Good news John, we have most of them now so expect that to start happening. :0)
Andertons did this with on their channel when they first came out. Only one I remember was the Blues driver which there was basically zero noticeable difference between the waza and the regular standard one (at least on youtube).
I've watched this twice now...I just ordered a Waza! WAZZZAAAAA! Thanks guys! I'll buy a tee-shirt next!
There's your next video idea - a pedalboard of amazing but impractical gear (big Boss chorus, tape echo, big box Big Muff, etc.). All the biggest, most amazing, most impractical gear you can find. Slap it all on a Pedaltrain pro.
+Adam K We love this...
That Pedal Show Yeah! Get to it, fellas
Korg Miku Stomp Pedal!
dont forget an enormous old echoplex
Ronan Adam, I agree! Tiny pedals that are amazing like the TS mini and the Ditto. Really good, usable mini pedals.
I ordered my CE-2w today....I can't wait! I personally don't care for the breakup on the original on the CE-1, but the chorus sound of the CE-1 is the best.
Would really like to hear the TC Electronic Stereo Chorus/Flanger (SCF) on the show some day.
Once again great show. This is becoming a dangerous $150 / week habit. Brilliant playing. Thank you.
I think with a GE-7 after you could easily make your CE-2W sound exactly like the original. Maybe a boost before to get the CE-1 grind?
Ok, that's it... I'm subscribing! A channel dedicated to guitar effects pedals? HELL YEAH!
This episode will be my happy place for a good while. The Boss CE2 was my gateway into playing guitar simply because my early 80s budget strat knock off had appalling tuning issues and using chorus made the sound much more palatable. Lovely to hear the JC120 in action as well and even today, nothing really comes close to that epic chorus width that the twin speaker setup imparts. Excellent stuff as always chaps.
+Simon Godfrey LOVE that approach to chorus. Superb!
I used to have the CE2 and loved it, but sold it. I watched this video when it came out and loved the Waza and finally got one this week. I love it and I hear what you are saying about the CE1 with the overdrive thing, but you can get that with other pedals,boosts in to the chorus to acheive that. And Boss pedals are indestructible, I still have a SD1 33 years old.
The CE-1 sounds soooooooo good!!!! Bloody fantastic!
If you can find a Roland Guitar System GS6 rack unit it contains four different Chorus models including the original CE1, CE2, Chorus Ensemble, and later Roland Jazz Chorus amp models. The GS6 has fully adjustable delay times, depth, speed, panning stereo options and stereo placement options. It can be thought of as Jazz Chorus Amp in rack form. The delay time and reverb section can achieve flanging, through-zero flanging, Leslie Rotary, and Uni-Vibe type sounds. The delay section has panning, e.q. control, types of delay including tape style, and the reverb section is fantastic, including the Spring Reverb model. The effects can be route in various configurations. It's a recommended secondhand purchase for Roland Chorus fans. It also has rotary controls and 64 memory slots. The preamp models are pretty good too.
These two are very well-versed on Canadian artist. Respect.
Echo Beach!!! 🤘
The slight overdrive on the original CE-1 would drive me crazy.
That's part of the CE-1 sound. If you're playing through a pair of cranked Marshall amps, the overdrive helps.
A video on some Univibe pedals would be cool.
Excellent episode, even for me being not a chorus fan. That Wazacraft is a gem! Free-the-tone is a very interesting one (everything that guy builds is simply put: superb). Thank you Mick & Dan.
bloody love this channel guys,keep up the great work!!!
Just found this channel. What a great pair of guys. Really enjoyed the video. No smart ass ego nonsense. Just honest and thorough comparisons as if you're right here in my own living room. Keep up the terrific work, fellas. Greetings from Brisbane.
+Sixth Sanctum Thank you! Dan is from Brisbane y'know. Greetings to all down under!
"One day we've got to set that (Boss CE-1) up with the tape delay (the Echoplex?)"
PLEASE DO IT in the future!!!
Cheers
That and the Electric Mistress.
Mick’s expression at 3:58 is great! I love that crunchy CE-1 and it sure seemed to surprise the hell out of Mick!
I am wishing you had included the Red Witch Empress Chorus. I do love to see that you included the Chase Bliss.
Set the alarm early to get some work done and have a coffee. Thanks for providing the backing track to my morning.
i watched the video of your session at CPH guitar show it was great, hope you will go there again next year !
Man, as much as I dig Chorus, I don't dig it. Then you play it and make it sound great again. That Boss Waza pedal is sick!
Jim Mogine is genius, he used chorus so well .... .....” short memory “ what a great track
So much love for the jazz chorus amp
Every time I put on chorus I play "Come As You Are" too, it's a habit. Chorus is probably my favorite pedal after Reverb.
Just got my 1981 MIJ black label CE-2 (METAL screw on battery cover, none of this rubber sleeve nonsense).
It's soooo beautiful.
+Matt Gilbert Mmmmmmm. Nice find that man!
I sold mine... doh!!! should i get a waza?
I cannot answer that without knowing your rig details.
But...my CE-2 (Batch#200 *pre-serial number!!* ) sounds better than the Waza imho
The Maxon Ambient Stereo Chorus is also worth a look. Brett Kingman has a nice demo on youtube,
+That Pedal Show indeed!
I have been a CE-2 fan but the Callisto is something that might put a smile on your faces :)
Thank you. One surprise is that at least a short demo of the Waza in STEREO.
Hi Guys - another great show.
When I researched for a substitute for my beloved CE1, I found the Retro Sonic CE-1. To me it is "exactly" the same as the old Boss CE1, but without the noise, and running on 9 volt, standard. The guy who made it also supplied a "how to" remove one resistance, depending on if I wanted the original high-cut from the old Boss or a more neutral sound from the Retro Sonic. I haven't heard the new, more grey colored version he is building now, but the first original, came really close, and sounded better than the new Boss products to my worn out ears :-) Ok, is doesn't have the input gain issue, some love ... :-)
Another small comment - to my ears, it sound like the Waza has slightly longer delay, than the CE2 ... seems (at least in this video) that the chorused signal is a little longer away from the original signal on the Waza. So the dobbling effect gets a little stronger from the Waza and therefor slightly more crispy?!?! Haven't heard them any of the two in real world - just an impression from you excellent work.
All the very best - Soren
BTW - Very nice to say hello to you when you visited Copenhagen - cheers S
Dan absolutely KILLING echo beach! Best intro ever.
TC electronics Corona full size pedal with sweetwater CE-2 Redo tone print, Sweetwater Dimension M tone print, the tri-chorus tone prints, and more makes for an affordable and good sounding alternative to dropping hundreds per pedal on wazacraft that ultimately doesn’t sound like the originals they claim to reproduce anyway. How come you guys never do TC stuff? Not a dealer for them?
You had the depth cranked on the angel wing. It actually does a pretty passable ce-2 sound
Thanx for all the great videos you 2. I have learned so much, and continue to be educated and entertained by you guys.
+Sean Mahoney Thank you Sean!
Great video guys! I'd love to see you do a video about how to get "that sound" from some iconic amps: Vox, Supro, Marshall, etc.
I'd love to see you guys tripping with an organelle! Awesome video as usual, cheers
Now check out the giants of rack chorus: Roland Dimention D, tc electronic stereo chorus/flanger expander and a DyTronics Tri Stereo Chorus or a Fulltone terc!
please never stop.
Hey Daniel, Wosa from Guitar Crazy Sydney. Saying Hello and thanks for the shoutout! Love the show!
+WosaMusic cheers Wosa!! :)
love your show. I have an old Ibanez CS9 Chorus from the 80s but sadly its dead. just like the music . RIP
I have to confess;I really do love chorus,or rather,anything that simulates a Leslie.In the '60(yes,I'm old)it was a Guild RotoVerb.I went through 3,since they were the original gooped-up pedal & could not be repaired.The mid'70s saw a Maestro Phase shifter;3 speeds with ramp up & down.The early '80s saw a souped-up Strat(Lawrence Blades & an Alembic Stratoblaster)with,yes,a Boss CE-1through an EP-3.My Adrian Belew period.Still have the CE-1.Then a soul band,so a Boss CE-3,for it's size.When it finally developed a bit of tone suck,I went to a TC Corona.
But now,I've transitioned to a Leslie simulator,a DLS RotoSIM.It produces a very reasonable Leslie,& is tweakable.
Maybe a Leslie simulator comparison?
Martin Rotsey also used a CE1 with white strat and twin AC30s especially great on place w/o a postcard and 10 to 1. Cant decide between Jim or Marty as my favourite. Martins best stuff is pre red sails.
9:20 finally I think I have understood how it works..thank you guys!
Just picked up the Waza. Will work it into my GigRig soon.
I have played every pedal featured here except for Tone City and an original CE-1. The CE-2w is currently on my board. Analogman an amazing pedal, but I wanted a very specific tone. The Boss is THE pedal for the 80's chorus sounds. Running a low gain OD in front of the CE-1 setting nails that sound. I'm surprised the Small Clone wasn't covered more, it is a classic analog circuit that is inexpensive and sounds great.
It is nice to see that great tone smile... That is what love is all about.. lol
Guys you play brilliantly
Cheers mate :)
The Electromatic! Congrats, Mick. That's a beauty.
+Adam K Just spoke to me. Sounds sooooo good with gain.
Never thought I would use chorus, but I got my hands on an original CE-2 from 1979. I set it for more vibe-ish wobbly sound than 80's ballad sounds though. Love it!
I actually can't stand chorus at all. And yet, here I am happily enjoying you guys go on about it for 45 minutes straight.
I love what you're doing.
And because of this, consider yourselves Patreon-ed!
+eDWICHt Thank you so much!
Waza Chorus is the best to my ears. However since the Seymour Duncan Catalina chorus has a blend knob as wlel, that is the one I went with.
Hi, guys! I know you guys have not covered this in this video, but it'd be great to get your guys' thoughts on the Strymon Ola Chorus & Vibrato pedal. I think it's one of the least-talked about chorus/vibrato pedals as well as one of the most underrated Strymon pedals and not many videos have covered this pedal as much.
Thanks so much to you both. Cheers from California.
-David
Great show guys! My pedal board claim to fame is that my Boss CE-2 was previously owned by the guitarist of 90's 1 hit wonder band Stiltskin. Love it to bits. :)
You know, I've shelved my Boss CH-1 Super Chorus for the time being but I'm glad I've hung on to it. You guys always point out cool things you can do with just subtle additions of a pedal's sound to the mix. Thanks as always for another great show.
Oh man I am all over that Waza, I've needed to replace my crappy little plastic Behringer multi-effects for so long and this one absolutely nails it, can't wait to nab this one!
I got my CE-2 after seeing David Lindley and El Rayo-X in the early '80's. He had his set with the Rate at 10:30 and Depth at 2:00 give or take a few minutes. That's where I almost always put it and it's a great rhythm guitar tone. If I were to go out and buy a new chorus the Waza would be my first one to try, but the Free the Tone would be an option if it were in my budget. Keep up the good work guys!
+Paul Honeycutt Spoooky - I was listening to that record just yesterday! (Mick here)
Well, now you know how to set your chorus when you try to cop those licks through your Dumble. ;-)
I have the ce-2 and ce-2w they are both great :)
Should have had the Jam Waterfall in this review. Most stunning chorus since the original Roland circuit. It's like a blissful underwater rotary speaker......amazing pedal.
+Jon Leon we've just got one in :)
Rocking the "Echo Beach"! :D
Great vid man. You guys are getting better and better at the demo thing for sure. Your channel is pretty much my "go to" to determine how a pedal sounds, that I've never heard before. Also your gear is very good.....hah....amps, geetars, etc.
+Bill's Studio thanks Bill :)
If only you guys played some RUSH with that distorted CE-1. ;)
I Love Alex Lifeson. That guy is a Monster. He is a Huge CE-1 guy, to get that Huge Sound in a 3 piece. All the guys in Rush are just " Raw Talent " I used to play in 3 piece band, that did tons of Rush & Police and I had an Original CE-2 and and Ibanez Bi-Mode Dual Analog Chorus. ( that Ibanez Pedal was very underrated )
great video lv thd chours sound but the sound you got with the tele omg to die for .keep up the great work guys
I was actually shocked when I heard that there is a decent number of people who talk trash about chorus. I always figured it was one of the standard effects on basically everybody's pedalboard.
Hey guys, there were some sentences in this show, that made me think - Like the occasional "I got that on my board", "The Chorus that I use" and of course "Not because I'm an idiot, it's because I'm usually singing" - So what we all NEED to know is how your everyday rigs and gigging situations are, which Amps and Pedals do you take to what kind of gigs (...style of music, kind of band, size of venue, temper of promoter...). But maybe this post is redundant because it is all coming along in the "Guitars & Gear"-Videos. Anyway, what a great way to start a lazy sunday with two or three mugs of coffee and listening to you guys tinkering away with some lovely wobbly sounds. Thanks so much and Cheers!
+Thomas Lange Cheers Thomas. Dan has a run of gigs coming up with his band Tin Spirits so maybe there's a show there. Both of our boards change almost daily - to the point where I don't really have one at all - so doing a show would be instantly out of date. If we have projects on the go, maybe we could focus on the stuff chosen, that might work. I tend to do last minute fill-ins and the odd mates reunion for fun; parties, open mics maybe, but aside from that I lost a lot of love for playing live in bands regularly a few years ago. Haven't really put it back together since! Cheers.
Hey Dan! I also love the ce-1 and crowded house XD
Hey guys, love the show and have learnt so much from watching it! I realise that you do feature cheaper pedals in many of your videos but it would be great if for a future video you both choose some of your favourite budget pedals (maybe under £100). This would be great for people like me who love gear but haven't always got tonnes of money to spend! Thanks for all the great stuff guys keep it coming!!!