whatever coming from RE could not be trusted too much, i was using a gt 650 for the past 3 years and it was always sick whenever there is a rain, i changed the wiring kit 2-3 times completely, all the electronics including abs failed several times, now using a 390 adv for 6 months and its very reliable and fun
As a owner of Bs3 Himalayan I can attest to the fact that electrical suck IN Re bikes. No wonder people sell their bikes in just 6 months ( those who can afford to shell out extra money to buy new bike). I'll be moving to triumph 400x once the 2nd lot of bikes are out. Till then will have enough data points.
Moving from comfortable Interceptor to 390 please comment on the comment that it is unbearable from home to highway or off road in India or any heavy traffic....Appreciate response...on low speed experience of 390
@@gopirsterHi, Adv 390 is excellent in city as well as off-road. It is a great all rounder. U hav made an excellent choice. Pls check my channel to know more about my experience with the 390.
Hello, I own the Adv-x and got a mileage of 33 to 36kmpl for my zanskar trip with gear changing at 6 to 6.5k rpm. It all depends on how we ride the bike and how much of the unnecessary breaking we use.
Im not a RE fan rather I love ktm. But Re has done something that deserves claps. If it works as it says on pen and paper then ktm should think again and not only ktm but all the bike companies who are planning to leave a mark or want to capture the adv market of India. Salling is all about customers desire fulfillment. And RE Himalayan has topped the exam with the highest percentage as it seems till now. Being a rider im happy that the market is getting more competitive. I hope soon i will see some new adv from other companies too.
Sorry for the disagreement with your review, go for ktm only if you want a rough machine and refinement is not your Requirement. 390 is so buzzy at occasions and the low end torque irritates you at such a level at the price you pay it’s not worthy. I don’t understand why it’s even compared to it. It has failed to be a adventure and a duke.
I agree with you. I own a 250 Adv, not the 390. However, this engine is one of the most unrefined engines I have come across in this segment. It is as you described, quite rough and unpleasant to ride most of the time. It's all fun in a buzzy vibe manner or lethargic, no middle ground unless you meticulously stick to around 4.5k rpm range.
@@DhanilVira I own one and did Assam to banglore in 4 days riding it for 48 hours continuously with small breaks once, the buzz on foot pegs too much irritating, the engine oil consumption is also high. The clutch feel goes diminishing with the climbing kilometres. And if you are in ghats or traffic low end torque and that tft console and entire front section doing belly dance due to high vibrations my god would make rethink few who are completely new to it
This segment is really heating up!!! 🔥🔥 But i'll hold onto my A390 for longer. I've just fallen in love with this bike😍 It's just what i needed. Pure fun, nimble, agile, go anywhere ability and incredibly comfortable for touring. Ticked all my boxes☑️
@@aksharma4393 A lot of videos you might see on TH-cam pertaining to this issue are for bikes before 2022. Its not comfortable crawling below 2k rpm but it won't die either. And if you really like to dwell in those lower rpms, KTM isn't for you.
Ktm 160, 200, 250, 390, 590, 790, 990, is Always For Teenage, YoungAge But RE Really For GENTLEMEN, GENTLEWOMEN, This HM 452 Looks is So Dam Good Looking, From Seating Posture If you See Tank, The Vertical Circle Speedometer, It Looks Dam GOOD, Feel LikeA Gentleman, A Machoman.🔥🔥🔥💪💪💪
This is the comment I was looking for. Literally no-one is talking about it, like there is a new Duke out there, so there must be a new Adventure 390 coming. Right?
Adv 390 and himalayan 450,. New himalayan is way better than old version and just wow... Iagree.. But the heavyness(less weight than old himlayan in pappers, but in real its heavy).. For a city commute, easi flickablety.. Ofcourse anyday ktm adv.. Its easily flickable and power to weight ratio is just incredible! New himalayan is abeast ofcourse.. But in real it feels heavy!! Itz all about handling i felt
@@harshalshetty9865Horse power is a function of rpm at which peak torque is produced. Lower the peak torque rpm. Lower the Bhp. Long strikes produce at lower rpm! Look at any such engine like R18, bonnie of triumph or old Street twin 900. Even, new BSA 650 !
But what about the vibrations it produces at higher speeds.... Even above 100 kmph.... The whole bike starts vibrating.... For a longer run it gives u fatigue....
Nice comparison brother. Is it just me or somebody else also feels that Himalayan 450 in black with golden rims (cause the black engine and black back and front fender complement it length) the looks longer than Himalayan in White 🤔🤔
Here's the thing. The 44 bhp on a ktm engine will take you to 100 in 6seconds. Whereas a 40 bhp engine of Royal Enfield won't be as refined as the KTM. It will take 11 seconds to reach the same speed. But if that doesn't bother you and you want Torque then go for RE
While I agree with the power delivery part; I don't agree with the engine being refined. May be it is because I shifted from a Suzuki to a KTM, but KTM engines are nowhere near refined.
If 0-100 time is what you're after, an adventure bike should not be what you're looking for. You've got your priorities wrong. The Himalayan has better mid range, and much better suspension travel, and ground clearance. That makes it a better offroader, and will most likely make it a better tourer. Put a little thought into it.
The Himaliyan 450 is a very Top Heavy and can cause riding fatigue and maneuverability issues. KTM 390 adv scores better there. 20 kg lighter and better weight management makes maneuvering and cornering more easy
What about the low end torque problem of Adv 390 ? That is the most annoying part when u use it in a City. Every time u r not going to use it for touring. My requirement is 40% City and 60% Touring Highway.
Low end torque problem is major concern when rides in city. Its annoying in low speeds and required excessive gear shifting, also has vibration in low speeds. The engine heats crazy in city. I own 2023 model and covered 9000 kms so far. Its outshine highways and trails. Hope this helps
On a daily basis on city rides, you will hate it for the gear shifts and the heating in heavy traffic and the wide handlebars don't help either. But, you will love it for the view it offers in city traffic conditions and the power ready for overtakes given that you're in the right gear (otherwise be ready for a sluggish engine).
What about the low end torque problem of Adv 390 ? That is the most annoying part when u use it in a City. Every time u r not going to use it for touring. My requirement is 40% City and 60% Touring Highway.
@@hindustanmachinery2569 dont know about the low end torque, but they will be using the same engine that is there in the new version of 390 Duke. So as per the engine characteristics and specs there wont be much of a difference.
@@clickbaitpro Himalayan 452 is gonna be better in terms of low end torque. Cheaper in Price... Excellent Low end torque.... Support for Google maps .... Long stroke higher cc engine..... It's gonna be a deal changer for bikers looking for ADV bike. KTM needs to improve in those terms.
When you normally mount the mobile on mobile holder for maps it is on full time right ..atleast now it’s inside the bag ..what’s the real issue on that..
Really bewildering how people are following the herd for Himalayan, while I liked its test ride, rejected it for the poor quality, after sales and long wait and glad I bought KTM 390 Adv Rally/spoke wheels, with more power and electronics it looks, feels and rides much better and safer than Himi 450!
452 has more torque at 3000 rpm with top speed of 150 kph and cruising speed of 130 it will be best bike on mountains, off-road, city, were a person mostly ride speed under 80 and 100 were adv feel most stress or uncomfortable the thing is compromise topspeed 25 kmh for Himalaya less than adv i.e 150 and 175 respectively or compromise first 80 kmh on adv 390 and enjoy rest
There's no much comparison of a RE 🦣 with an Adv from World class Motorcycle manufacturer like KTM 😁. But yes it's a great update on the outgoing himalayan
I own a classic 500. Its a good MC. But it is best till 80kmph. After that it vibrates as if all its parts will fall apart. Although i have taken it till 125 once just to test, but its not at all made for those speeds. So whats the use of having that much bhp or torque if it cannot be used. I guess thats y they discontinued classic 500. I will definitely buy Himalayan replacing my Classic 500. But will wait for the second lot and ownership reviews.
damn you... you either speak in hindi or english .. speaking in both I cannot understand... I consider your posting only for north Indians. very bad you...
The only most stupid thing in Himalayan is the casting with mobile screen on, it makes no sense! Always these people did something most stupid that you can’t came out if it!
Tubeless spoke wheels are under BIS certification. Its a long process of Bharat Sarkar. They can export those but not sell here till cleared. But be rest assured it will be available very soon. And who knows may be RE deliberately holding it back to keep the talk and interest going for its bikes.
Wow, you have put on a lot of weight. I can't unsee it, now that i have noticed it. Honestly it's a distraction, i wasn't able concentrate on the bike.
The quality of RE socks brother RE is surviving only because of its pricing it is badly built with poor electrics and that throws dependability in the trash bin pls do t compare it to a KTM 390 the himalayan is dull poorly built machine surviving on buying frenzy by cheapos
whatever coming from RE could not be trusted too much, i was using a gt 650 for the past 3 years and it was always sick whenever there is a rain, i changed the wiring kit 2-3 times completely, all the electronics including abs failed several times, now using a 390 adv for 6 months and its very reliable and fun
Electricals are jugaad😂
As a owner of Bs3 Himalayan I can attest to the fact that electrical suck IN Re bikes. No wonder people sell their bikes in just 6 months ( those who can afford to shell out extra money to buy new bike).
I'll be moving to triumph 400x once the 2nd lot of bikes are out. Till then will have enough data points.
Moving from comfortable Interceptor to 390 please comment on the comment that it is unbearable from home to highway or off road in India or any heavy traffic....Appreciate response...on low speed experience of 390
Thanks for clearing the confusion ❤
@@gopirsterHi, Adv 390 is excellent in city as well as off-road. It is a great all rounder. U hav made an excellent choice. Pls check my channel to know more about my experience with the 390.
Hello,
I own the Adv-x and got a mileage of 33 to 36kmpl for my zanskar trip with gear changing at 6 to 6.5k rpm. It all depends on how we ride the bike and how much of the unnecessary breaking we use.
Im not a RE fan rather I love ktm. But Re has done something that deserves claps. If it works as it says on pen and paper then ktm should think again and not only ktm but all the bike companies who are planning to leave a mark or want to capture the adv market of India. Salling is all about customers desire fulfillment. And RE Himalayan has topped the exam with the highest percentage as it seems till now. Being a rider im happy that the market is getting more competitive. I hope soon i will see some new adv from other companies too.
Sorry for the disagreement with your review, go for ktm only if you want a rough machine and refinement is not your Requirement. 390 is so buzzy at occasions and the low end torque irritates you at such a level at the price you pay it’s not worthy. I don’t understand why it’s even compared to it. It has failed to be a adventure and a duke.
BS6.2 compliant 390 adv has the buzziness looked after
Yeah KTM ADV x is not an adventure , it's just an another duke on Adv chasis.
I agree with you. I own a 250 Adv, not the 390. However, this engine is one of the most unrefined engines I have come across in this segment. It is as you described, quite rough and unpleasant to ride most of the time. It's all fun in a buzzy vibe manner or lethargic, no middle ground unless you meticulously stick to around 4.5k rpm range.
@@DhanilVira I own one and did Assam to banglore in 4 days riding it for 48 hours continuously with small breaks once, the buzz on foot pegs too much irritating, the engine oil consumption is also high. The clutch feel goes diminishing with the climbing kilometres. And if you are in ghats or traffic low end torque and that tft console and entire front section doing belly dance due to high vibrations my god would make rethink few who are completely new to it
I prefer Himalayan for its accessories, low end torque, all rounder bike and service reach,
Adv in terms of look, power and reliability
This segment is really heating up!!! 🔥🔥
But i'll hold onto my A390 for longer. I've just fallen in love with this bike😍
It's just what i needed. Pure fun, nimble, agile, go anywhere ability and incredibly comfortable for touring. Ticked all my boxes☑️
Is it ride-able at low rpms.
Does need to be Run at high RPM like RC390 ?
@@aksharma4393 A lot of videos you might see on TH-cam pertaining to this issue are for bikes before 2022.
Its not comfortable crawling below 2k rpm but it won't die either.
And if you really like to dwell in those lower rpms, KTM isn't for you.
Ktm 160, 200, 250, 390, 590, 790, 990, is Always For Teenage, YoungAge But RE Really For GENTLEMEN, GENTLEWOMEN,
This HM 452 Looks is So Dam Good Looking, From Seating Posture If you See Tank, The Vertical Circle Speedometer, It Looks Dam GOOD, Feel LikeA Gentleman, A Machoman.🔥🔥🔥💪💪💪
Dumbest comment in the whole comment section coming from a RE fan boy. NOT A TRUE motorcycle enthusiasts !!
Lol 😂😂
Wtf?,,,,,whats wrong with you mann
😂😂😂 nice joke
Now as Duke has new 399cc engine n other updates
KTM Adventure versions with the updates...
Wen Will it be in the market...
I am waiting for the upcoming ADV 390 with the new engine, less weight more fun on off road
This is the comment I was looking for. Literally no-one is talking about it, like there is a new Duke out there, so there must be a new Adventure 390 coming. Right?
@@PRAG3 I don't see it coming even in 2024
Will have to wait till 2025
@@ashwin2263 Yeah, we have to wait. Until I gain some more height for that motorcycle.
@@clickbaitpro 😂😂
What size are the front and rear sprockets/how many teeth? Are the sprockets and chain heavy duty or standard on the Himalayan 450.
Adv 390 and himalayan 450,. New himalayan is way better than old version and just wow... Iagree.. But the heavyness(less weight than old himlayan in pappers, but in real its heavy).. For a city commute, easi flickablety.. Ofcourse anyday ktm adv.. Its easily flickable and power to weight ratio is just incredible! New himalayan is abeast ofcourse.. But in real it feels heavy!! Itz all about handling i felt
very well said straight to the point it helped me to decide my next bike
thank you
The retired UCE 500 also produces 40Nm of peak torque
I own tbts 500 44nm torque i suppose
But only 27hp
yes but torque is chefs kiss @@harshalshetty9865
@@harshalshetty9865Horse power is a function of rpm at which peak torque is produced. Lower the peak torque rpm. Lower the Bhp. Long strikes produce at lower rpm! Look at any such engine like R18, bonnie of triumph or old Street twin 900. Even, new BSA 650 !
But what about the vibrations it produces at higher speeds.... Even above 100 kmph.... The whole bike starts vibrating.... For a longer run it gives u fatigue....
Nice comparison brother. Is it just me or somebody else also feels that Himalayan 450 in black with golden rims (cause the black engine and black back and front fender complement it length) the looks longer than Himalayan in White 🤔🤔
True that . Lets wait for the pricing. Everything depends on pricing for the New Himalayan.
Here's the thing. The 44 bhp on a ktm engine will take you to 100 in 6seconds. Whereas a 40 bhp engine of Royal Enfield won't be as refined as the KTM. It will take 11 seconds to reach the same speed. But if that doesn't bother you and you want Torque then go for RE
here's the answer. lol
While I agree with the power delivery part; I don't agree with the engine being refined. May be it is because I shifted from a Suzuki to a KTM, but KTM engines are nowhere near refined.
If 0-100 time is what you're after, an adventure bike should not be what you're looking for. You've got your priorities wrong.
The Himalayan has better mid range, and much better suspension travel, and ground clearance. That makes it a better offroader, and will most likely make it a better tourer.
Put a little thought into it.
Himalayan 450 does 0-100 under 8 seconds similar to dominar
KTM adv 390x and Himalayan 450 is an accurate comparison
Non of these, always wanted Yamaha to launch the Tenere, didn’t happen, now saving for the Transalp 750
Heard all sold out already
@@VaibhavGandhi not taking now, not have enough but since it is launched in India it is here to stay.
Planning for middle of 24
I am 5’11” with a 32” inseam. I sat on the KTM 390 Adventure, and I was on my tippy toes. It was a little tall for me.
Is it worth buying the 1st batch or wait??
Please answer
Please wait.for at least a year,
After all its RE they need couple of years to fix all issue
Don’t buy.
Wait for tubeless rims, because technology looks new, but RE dealers will have no clue to service this. Those are dumb fucks.
Hold on.
always wait no matter what the brand
Who will buy it everyone waits... They tested it rigorously.. So may be wait for 2nd lot which takes a. Month or so.. Am getting mine in 2nd lot
RE Should Bring The Tubeless Spoked Wheels As A Accessory For Top Model People Will Go Crazy For That Hope It Will.
The Himaliyan 450 is a very Top Heavy and can cause riding fatigue and maneuverability issues.
KTM 390 adv scores better there. 20 kg lighter and better weight management makes maneuvering and cornering more easy
Now we have the CF Moto 450 throwing its hat in the ring. So glad to see this class growing!
"pricing is what matters the most, then comes purpose and everything else..."
Can't believe I heard it from a journalist/publication.
Nice maan if someone is getting confused between those machines then he will have better idea to buy one of these
What about the low end torque problem of Adv 390 ?
That is the most annoying part when u use it in a City. Every time u r not going to use it for touring. My requirement is 40% City and 60% Touring Highway.
Low end torque problem is major concern when rides in city. Its annoying in low speeds and required excessive gear shifting, also has vibration in low speeds. The engine heats crazy in city. I own 2023 model and covered 9000 kms so far. Its outshine highways and trails. Hope this helps
On a daily basis on city rides, you will hate it for the gear shifts and the heating in heavy traffic and the wide handlebars don't help either. But, you will love it for the view it offers in city traffic conditions and the power ready for overtakes given that you're in the right gear (otherwise be ready for a sluggish engine).
not just close to X interms of price but if lower then it will kill the market like triumph did
Ktm will update adv 390 with new engine and chasis and slant rear monoshock which will decrease seat height and same time increase ground clearance
What about the low end torque problem of Adv 390 ?
That is the most annoying part when u use it in a City. Every time u r not going to use it for touring. My requirement is 40% City and 60% Touring Highway.
Yes! I heard that too! Waiting for 2024 adv!
@@hindustanmachinery2569 dont know about the low end torque, but they will be using the same engine that is there in the new version of 390 Duke. So as per the engine characteristics and specs there wont be much of a difference.
@@hindustanmachinery2569 That's a problem of short stroke, high compression engine's in general but new 399cc duke improved upon that
@@clickbaitpro Himalayan 452 is gonna be better in terms of low end torque. Cheaper in Price... Excellent Low end torque.... Support for Google maps .... Long stroke higher cc engine..... It's gonna be a deal changer for bikers looking for ADV bike.
KTM needs to improve in those terms.
Loved the explanation
When you normally mount the mobile on mobile holder for maps it is on full time right ..atleast now it’s inside the bag ..what’s the real issue on that..
Excellent video🎉
I was just waiting for this video .
when we can expect delivery of Himalayan
If purpose matters the most and not the pricing, which one would you pick up?
Himalayan, IMO, will be 2.65L ex-showroom Delhi !
2.6L would be a great price
2.5L will be surprising
Since previous Himalayan was 2.15L ex
@@abhishekk1433 previously model ex showroom was 2.2L, so 30 to 40k hike sounds reasonable
@@abhishekk1433 previously Himalayan was over priced so idk 2.6 is reasonable
You have to keep ph on all time and keep it on charge. Whats the benifit? Better use phone for navigation.
Can you make a similar 452 vs g310gs?
Sure!
Really bewildering how people are following the herd for Himalayan, while I liked its test ride, rejected it for the poor quality, after sales and long wait and glad I bought KTM 390 Adv Rally/spoke wheels, with more power and electronics it looks, feels and rides much better and safer than Himi 450!
452 has more torque at 3000 rpm with top speed of 150 kph and cruising speed of 130 it will be best bike on mountains, off-road, city, were a person mostly ride speed under 80 and 100 were adv feel most stress or uncomfortable the thing is compromise topspeed 25 kmh for Himalaya less than adv i.e 150 and 175 respectively or compromise
first 80 kmh on adv 390 and
enjoy rest
Engine kiska refined hai ?
KTM is better. Good ground clearance, suspension is from WP. Even if we go tippy toe, it is great.
The only drawback thing is spoke wheels I don't want to walk with my bike in the middle of the trip
The most torquey single in india still is cgt535
Keep it up Bro.
There's no much comparison of a RE 🦣 with an Adv from World class Motorcycle manufacturer like KTM 😁.
But yes it's a great update on the outgoing himalayan
When Honda will releaee their adventure tourer.. ,?
There is already one called african twin but not in this category check it out
Want to buy this.........just have to convince the Home minister on why i need Three Motorcycles
i bougth it
You told ktm is SHARP as a teacher I like sharp students 😂😂😂😂😂😂
waiting to see some more competion, so will wait for xpulse 400 before thinking about buying anyone of these. hahaha
Off road, the new 452 will paste the 390. I should know. I used to have one.
Good information bro .....always tolk what you like ....and it is parfect for indian viewers....bro
Hindi -english mix is the best video .....❤❤
When will ktm 390 adv lounch in 2024?
Bidirectional quick-shifter very important for a touring motorcycle, in that aspect Himalayan not so much touring compared to adv 390 sw!
How is bi directional quick shift imp for touring? What?
if you something lacking(Quality,Realibility) in your bike kindly buy any bikes from above mentioned brands .
Adv 390 is Adv 390🤟🤟...RE always trust issue🤣😂
Yeah stales when you go off-road
11:24 per jo jump liya hai bas vahi reason hai me 390 😂
How about HDx440
Hello sir,
Aap na in dono bike ki drag race karbao tab samajh ne me aur Jada bhetor hojayga ❤❤❤
Chapris have ruined the brand image of KTM.
No one can beat 390 at this range
2.69Lakh Ex Showroom is a little overpriced . at this price Duke390 Adv. X is a better pick .
what about the yezdi ADV? and the re himalayan rally version?
Thanks
Waiting for scram 450
So 390 is more for highways and himalayan is more for off-road.
I can see the weight gain or loss.
East or west. Ktm 390 is the best 😊
I think u missed traction control
Bro ..u mean wit KTM u do not need navigation...yenna rascal..
Classic 500 had 42 Nm torque
It was a sweet machine.
I own a classic 500. Its a good MC. But it is best till 80kmph. After that it vibrates as if all its parts will fall apart. Although i have taken it till 125 once just to test, but its not at all made for those speeds. So whats the use of having that much bhp or torque if it cannot be used. I guess thats y they discontinued classic 500. I will definitely buy Himalayan replacing my Classic 500. But will wait for the second lot and ownership reviews.
In my tbts 500 no vibes till 100. I use motul 5100 and service regularly... I am not planning to sell this as RE no longer producing thumpy engines
If RE give tubeless tyre stock then how gonna charge you extra later😂
Eager to see 450 headlight performance and modification after installing auxiliary light
Waiting for the hero xpulse 400
damn you... you either speak in hindi or english .. speaking in both I cannot understand... I consider your posting only for north Indians. very bad you...
The only most stupid thing in Himalayan is the casting with mobile screen on, it makes no sense! Always these people did something most stupid that you can’t came out if it!
No tubeless makes no sense to go to Himalayan. It’s a big deal breaker
Tubeless spoke wheels are under BIS certification. Its a long process of Bharat Sarkar. They can export those but not sell here till cleared. But be rest assured it will be available very soon. And who knows may be RE deliberately holding it back to keep the talk and interest going for its bikes.
Mera to dono pe he pair nhi aayega kyun ki main 5ft 7in hooh mere liye 2024 duke hi sahi rahega but mera man tha himalayan 450 leneka 😢....
Himalayan with low seat option is good for you. I am 5'6" and I am confident I can ride the standard Himalayan
@@H7.MotoTech Is it available for himalayan 450 or old himalayan ?
@@adarshabiswas7252The new Himalayan has the option for seat adjustments 805 mm to 845 mm.
Ktm adv 390 V is small seat variant but no spokes
@@adarshabiswas7252 It is available for the New Himalayan, old Himalayan seat is already at around 805 mm which is accessible.
3.10 to 3.30 lakhs
Not gonna buy plastic even after giving 1Lkh more than Himalayan
Looks of ADV390 could be better
Without tubeless no touring
Always Himalayan
Compare gs 310
I think you have upgraded your cc's from 400 to 800 😂
Still not as torque as continental 535
Tbh the voice quality of this video is bad ad
All model KTM exhaust are bad sound 💯
Himi 😮
KTM achi ni hai but (*paisa Mila hai*) who achi hai.
Re is isn't reliable. KTM is way ahead.
Biased for RE, looks like a paid review.
Thank God Chapris don't buy RE.
Wow, you have put on a lot of weight. I can't unsee it, now that i have noticed it. Honestly it's a distraction, i wasn't able concentrate on the bike.
I prefer ktm 390 because of looks
👍👍👍
This channel is kinda boring now
this guy needs to do some excercise NGL
The quality of RE socks brother RE is surviving only because of its pricing it is badly built with poor electrics and that throws dependability in the trash bin pls do t compare it to a KTM 390 the himalayan is dull poorly built machine surviving on buying frenzy by cheapos
Sounds like a biased review!!.
cant stand your commentary, you need to talk more slowly..