I never personally thought of the CSL Pedals as a replacement for the Elites. I recall them saying in a blog post that the CSL line was meant it be a tier below the Elite. So I guess there's now CSL, CSL Elite, Clubsport and Podium product tiers? It'll be interesting to see if we get refreshes of Clubsport tier products or new ones. And maybe a DD in the Clubsport wheel base tier
My wife just picked these up as part of their black friday deal $200, but I have to wait for x-mas, and I can't wait. I used to have the old CSL elites, and I really liked those too, and always regreted when I had to let them go.
@@noobsimdrivereverybody likes something different. What is there not to get ?! Some people like wasting money by doing tiny upgrades instead of going all out in the firstplace.
Thank you for giving us your perspective on Fanatec's new offer. --- Damn, now Fanatec threw a wrench into my plans. I noticed in the spring that my highly modded T-LCM are starting to fail me. So I planned to upgrade after the summer. Because I race in socks, hydraulics aren't really an option, so I zeroed in on Asetek Forte, Sprints, Moza CRP, and DC Simracing Pedals. All are in the prince range that is acceptable to me. I consider simracing a hobby, and I'm thinking long term when buying so I'd rather pay more up front and be happy for the next 3+ years. Dan Suzuki showed us Asetek Forte is a strange/failed design. Moza CRP are also out, because they don't have EU store. (Taxes and customer support). Now, I have to research if these Fanatec pedals could be my next upgrade. I still prefer DC and Sprints. Sprints are more reputable brand, but DC cost half of Sprints. And DC design is "keep it simple stupid" (same as Sprints). So if anything fails, it could easily be replaced with not manufacturer's parts. Damn, what should I buy, what should I buy...
@@renelammers813 At double the price, the sprints are brilliant from all accounts but Fanatec seem to have nailed it with the V2's and at half the price. That's really impressive.
I received the V2 pedals last week. I upgraded from the standard CSL pedals that come with GT DD Pro - I was using them for about a year. I was a bit sceptical about the V2's before I got them, but what a difference. I love them. I even find the accelerator to be good, especially for finding 70% and smoother acceleration and the like. The brake pedal is the star though.
Getting these soon, so excited. I've seen people swap the gas and clutch for a stiffer throttle, and there's also mods available on etsy for like $60 as well.
I did it the other way around, hated the Clubsport brake. Clutch was good, a throttle is a throttle, brake pedal wasn't conducive for trail braking at all. The CSL Elite V2 make it so easy, should carry a weight penalty for using them. 🤣
I just ordered these v2 to replace my v3 with bpk and damper. I think the feel of these pads will be better and the bigger travel on the brake and the feedback of that convinced me to at least try. In terms of throttle i see thzt there are a lot of aftermarket damper kits available now.
Great vid RC. I have the V1s with LC so your opinion makes me happy that i didn't upgrade to something more expensive. I did have bad trouble with the potentiometer on the throttle though so i bought a hall sensor and now all is good although you do have to get used to a different feel.
I'm in the same boat. I posted a longer comment, then I saw yours. Did you mod the brake on T-LCM? When I bought them, shortly after, I modded them with 3drap elastomer and it transform the feel of the brake pedal. It makes them "how the loadcell should be used/felt". But mine are starting to fail.
Only a few words were said about running these pedals on the floor. Could anyone expand on how well these pedals work in that situation with them up against a wall so they dont move? Would just modding a T3PA pedal set be a better idea in that use case?
Great review. I get a lot out of your well considered insight and demontrations. I also have a question: How do you think the Thrustmaster TLCM pedals with the DRAP Mod? It seems like, for $20~ish US, i can really improve my pedal set as opposed to spending $400~ish on a new set. Of course I can save for a year or so and go all out on one of the Huesinkveld sets. But that's a long way down the road. I just want to improve my braking consistency.
I mate, thank you for the review. I own a csl dd 8nm and a csl pedals set, do you think the v2s worth the upgrade or is bettere to upgrade with something else like a conspit cpp lite or a sim magic p1000? Thank you very much
Anyone know of any mods to upgrade the gas & clutch ? I know the brake pedal is good , but now maybe someone has came up with a better mod then the original.
Side to side sway effects the V1s? I guess I got lucky then. LOL. Even though I modded my current set, I cannot get on with the loadcell of the V1. There's a drop off in break pressure that just kills my consistency. I may be waffling, but I am definitely getting the new set.
1:58 I am curious of what you mean by this as I am currently using the V1 loadcell pedal and I am really struggling to find a consistent feeling on the brake, especially on different tracks
the price of a g923 is twice the price of a mario kart wheelset. price by itself is half the story. the context of where the prices operate is another thing.
not sure if it also possible on the v3s, but with csp v1 you could increase the brake travel by moving the load cell arm down one notch on th pedal side?
I like to drive with socks on, i have the v1 elite and that does a very good job. But without a loadcel. Is it possible to drive a loadcel brake with socks? Or do you need shoes for that because of the higher presure needed?
Hi, so does the V3 pedal without performance kit have less travel than the CSL Elite V2's? And how do they compare in stiffness? I like a softer pedal with a fair amount of travel for trail braking so that's why I'm asking
Elastomer quality on the V1 is crap. Can't even find aftermarket ones now. Fanatec wants an insane amount for replacement ones, if they even they get back to you. My 65s split in 6months.
Thanks for this Video. I make the step from Xbox to Pc and drive with the g920 from Logitech and these Pedals sucks. I wanna buy a entry level load cell pedal set. Would you buy these or is for this price as maximum a better Pedal set on the market? Love your Videos keep it up.
Copy pasting my comment so more people are aware of this: I heard really mixed reviews of this. Some f1 esports drivers received those pedals and they had drifting/grinding issues with the throttle and brake pedal and two of them had to actually retire or couldn't attend f1 league races because of it. Joni Tormala had to retire mid-race in an f1 esports race and Jarno Opmeer couldn't attend the latest WOR because of those brake issues. Happend in the same week IIRC. I'd rather stay away from fanatec when it comes to pedals (except their v3s) but that's just me I guess ---- EDIT: to give further information, the starting point keeps changing of both brake and throttle (doesn't go 0/0) and the break literally starts dragging after some laps. "Forcevsoutput" (not sure exactly what he meant) of the brake pedals feels inconsistent aswell. Time will tell I guess. Nonetheless I really like that they brought back this design. Always looked so much better than the current CSL pedals. I hope the v2s turn out to be solid.
@@randomcallsign Ye ofc or what do you mean? They got them earlier I assume. F1 esports is sponsored by fanatec thus making it mandatory that they have to use fanatec gear. It's in the rules so they had way more time with them before reviewers got them I guess
Thank you for the comment. I've been discussing this with our esports technical team, who have been in contact with a few of the pro drivers who provided feedback or ran into issues, and these were all addressed. For example, Joni reported a brake issue and this was because he was using an old driver. It was solved after updating. We also received reports of the throttle not going back to 0% or not reaching 100%, and this was due to pushing the limits of the manual calibration (setting the min and max too close to the mechanical end points). Since then we have received no further reports and the pro drivers appear to be very satisfied with the new pedals.
@@DomB_Fanatec Wow ty for the comment! Didn't expect to get a reply on youtube. Any idea on Jarnos pedals? He was ranting a lot on stream, discord and tweeted about it and then probabaly had to delete it. Just curious, really want to ditch old ones! :D
@@deutscherspieler1310 Jarno never reached out to us about his pedals. Perhaps he was able to resolve the issues himself, or with his team. We are in close contact with all the F1 Esports teams to offer technical support.
Hi! one small question! i don't hear a lot of noise coming from the throttle and brake, but i hear a lot from the clutch (in second game tested). It is because you press it quicker? or? i'm intrested to buy those, but i really need them to be quiet! Thanks a lot!
Hi sir can i have some advice? I have a ps5 console and im planning to bus these items, Shifter V1.5, Handbrake V1.5, CSL elite Steering wheel MCLAREN GT3 V2, Gran-Turismo DDpro Wheelbase, and CSL elite Redals V2 the latest version of pedal. Will these be conpatible to my Ps5?
If you now choose to experiment with the V3s to try to match the feeling of this brake pedal (with the preload screw and the BPK), could you share your findings please ?
CSL Elite V2's, I just changed from V3's to these, I loved the look of the V3 but the brake pedal isn't very good in my opinion. The clutch pedal is better on the V3 if that's important to you, but if you don't use it often then the V2's clutch is fine. Throttle has maybe more throw. The V2's are all about the brake pedal, make no mistake, this is outstanding, you'd need to spend a lot more money to get better than this, it gives you superb control of your braking, trail braking and brake modulation is so easy with the V2's. Excellent build quality too. The only thing I didn't like about them was the rubber on the throttle, easily removed.
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I never personally thought of the CSL Pedals as a replacement for the Elites. I recall them saying in a blog post that the CSL line was meant it be a tier below the Elite.
So I guess there's now CSL, CSL Elite, Clubsport and Podium product tiers?
It'll be interesting to see if we get refreshes of Clubsport tier products or new ones. And maybe a DD in the Clubsport wheel base tier
My wife just picked these up as part of their black friday deal $200, but I have to wait for x-mas, and I can't wait. I used to have the old CSL elites, and I really liked those too, and always regreted when I had to let them go.
Always loved how the CSL Elites look. They kinda remind me of road car pedals which I like. Might get these to replace my T-LCMs.
I’m considering replacing my tlcm the gas clutch and brake just isn’t realistic enough for me the brake on the tlcm doesn’t have enough travel
@@Touge_SR I agree with you about the travel. But most people add mods to create less travel. I don't get it.
@@Touge_SRTLCMS have the most travel. huh?
@@noobsimdrivereverybody likes something different. What is there not to get ?! Some people like wasting money by doing tiny upgrades instead of going all out in the firstplace.
Bought mine because all the reviews, I couldn't be happier with them.
Completely agree, ive always preferred the CSL LC brake over the v3 ones
1:02 I loved that scene 😂
Thank you for giving us your perspective on Fanatec's new offer.
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Damn, now Fanatec threw a wrench into my plans. I noticed in the spring that my highly modded T-LCM are starting to fail me. So I planned to upgrade after the summer. Because I race in socks, hydraulics aren't really an option, so I zeroed in on Asetek Forte, Sprints, Moza CRP, and DC Simracing Pedals. All are in the prince range that is acceptable to me. I consider simracing a hobby, and I'm thinking long term when buying so I'd rather pay more up front and be happy for the next 3+ years. Dan Suzuki showed us Asetek Forte is a strange/failed design. Moza CRP are also out, because they don't have EU store. (Taxes and customer support). Now, I have to research if these Fanatec pedals could be my next upgrade. I still prefer DC and Sprints. Sprints are more reputable brand, but DC cost half of Sprints. And DC design is "keep it simple stupid" (same as Sprints). So if anything fails, it could easily be replaced with not manufacturer's parts. Damn, what should I buy, what should I buy...
@@renelammers813 At double the price, the sprints are brilliant from all accounts but Fanatec seem to have nailed it with the V2's and at half the price. That's really impressive.
I received the V2 pedals last week. I upgraded from the standard CSL pedals that come with GT DD Pro - I was using them for about a year.
I was a bit sceptical about the V2's before I got them, but what a difference. I love them. I even find the accelerator to be good, especially for finding 70% and smoother acceleration and the like. The brake pedal is the star though.
Getting these soon, so excited.
I've seen people swap the gas and clutch for a stiffer throttle, and there's also mods available on etsy for like $60 as well.
I upgraded from the old CSL Elites to the V3s and i find everything about the V3s better than the old Elites.
I did it the other way around, hated the Clubsport brake. Clutch was good, a throttle is a throttle, brake pedal wasn't conducive for trail braking at all. The CSL Elite V2 make it so easy, should carry a weight penalty for using them. 🤣
I just ordered these v2 to replace my v3 with bpk and damper. I think the feel of these pads will be better and the bigger travel on the brake and the feedback of that convinced me to at least try.
In terms of throttle i see thzt there are a lot of aftermarket damper kits available now.
speaking of v1 hall sensor conversion - these kits do not seem to be on sale today, unfortunately
Great vid RC. I have the V1s with LC so your opinion makes me happy that i didn't upgrade to something more expensive. I did have bad trouble with the potentiometer on the throttle though so i bought a hall sensor and now all is good although you do have to get used to a different feel.
from where did you get the hall sensor? i remember contacting someone who made one a couple years ago but they said they didn't make it anymore
I have the v2’s as well and love them! I use the stock blue spring for the brake … whats the spring he recommends for Better feel? Great vid !!
I have a T-LCM which I had plans to upgrade to the V3s, but now I don't know what to do. :D I guess I will see what will be on sale on black friday.
I'm in the same boat. I posted a longer comment, then I saw yours. Did you mod the brake on T-LCM? When I bought them, shortly after, I modded them with 3drap elastomer and it transform the feel of the brake pedal. It makes them "how the loadcell should be used/felt". But mine are starting to fail.
@@alpha007org No, it's on stock with a red and the black spring.
Only a few words were said about running these pedals on the floor. Could anyone expand on how well these pedals work in that situation with them up against a wall so they dont move? Would just modding a T3PA pedal set be a better idea in that use case?
Great review. I get a lot out of your well considered insight and demontrations.
I also have a question: How do you think the Thrustmaster TLCM pedals with the DRAP Mod?
It seems like, for $20~ish US, i can really improve my pedal set as opposed to spending $400~ish on a new set.
Of course I can save for a year or so and go all out on one of the Huesinkveld sets. But that's a long way down the road.
I just want to improve my braking consistency.
I mate, thank you for the review. I own a csl dd 8nm and a csl pedals set, do you think the v2s worth the upgrade or is bettere to upgrade with something else like a conspit cpp lite or a sim magic p1000? Thank you very much
its a small upgrade
Anyone know of any mods to upgrade the gas & clutch ? I know the brake pedal is good , but now maybe someone has came up with a better mod then the original.
I dont know but Im looking
Side to side sway effects the V1s? I guess I got lucky then. LOL.
Even though I modded my current set, I cannot get on with the loadcell of the V1. There's a drop off in break pressure that just kills my consistency. I may be waffling, but I am definitely getting the new set.
why is it better than the csl pedals with the lc kit? i feel like fanatecs lowest priced pedals offer more adjustibility for mods etc...
1:58 I am curious of what you mean by this as I am currently using the V1 loadcell pedal and I am really struggling to find a consistent feeling on the brake, especially on different tracks
with a price of a whole Logitech g923 bundle i consider this not as Budget Pedals more like semi professional Pedals
the price of a g923 is twice the price of a mario kart wheelset.
price by itself is half the story. the context of where the prices operate is another thing.
What spring and elastomers are you using with your V2 pedal set? and what brake force do you have selected with them?
blue and 60 shore. 60brkf
thank you
not sure if it also possible on the v3s, but with csp v1 you could increase the brake travel by moving the load cell arm down one notch on th pedal side?
I like to drive with socks on, i have the v1 elite and that does a very good job. But without a loadcel. Is it possible to drive a loadcel brake with socks? Or do you need shoes for that because of the higher presure needed?
Any plans for selling the loadcell separate again? I never got a chance to get mine before they discontinued the v1s
No. Stand alone only as of this point.
May have to buy these instead of the v3's
Hi, so does the V3 pedal without performance kit have less travel than the CSL Elite V2's? And how do they compare in stiffness? I like a softer pedal with a fair amount of travel for trail braking so that's why I'm asking
Boost kit for these expected Q4-23 @ $89.99
Elastomer quality on the V1 is crap. Can't even find aftermarket ones now. Fanatec wants an insane amount for replacement ones, if they even they get back to you. My 65s split in 6months.
I want to upgrade from a Logitech g923 to fanatic gear but now I don’t know if schould buy the v2 pedals or the v3!?
Thanks for this Video. I make the step from Xbox to Pc and drive with the g920 from Logitech and these Pedals sucks. I wanna buy a entry level load cell pedal set. Would you buy these or is for this price as maximum a better Pedal set on the market? Love your Videos keep it up.
I would consider these at the price. Probably I would take them over anything else, even if I think they are a bit inflated in price.
I'm pretty sure you're reviewed the csl pedals with hal censors with 3drap elastomers, how do these compare?
Copy pasting my comment so more people are aware of this: I heard really mixed reviews of this. Some f1 esports drivers received those pedals and they had drifting/grinding issues with the throttle and brake pedal and two of them had to actually retire or couldn't attend f1 league races because of it. Joni Tormala had to retire mid-race in an f1 esports race and Jarno Opmeer couldn't attend the latest WOR because of those brake issues. Happend in the same week IIRC. I'd rather stay away from fanatec when it comes to pedals (except their v3s) but that's just me I guess ---- EDIT: to give further information, the starting point keeps changing of both brake and throttle (doesn't go 0/0) and the break literally starts dragging after some laps. "Forcevsoutput" (not sure exactly what he meant) of the brake pedals feels inconsistent aswell.
Time will tell I guess. Nonetheless I really like that they brought back this design. Always looked so much better than the current CSL pedals. I hope the v2s turn out to be solid.
Because of this pedal set that was announced yesterday?
@@randomcallsign Ye ofc or what do you mean? They got them earlier I assume. F1 esports is sponsored by fanatec thus making it mandatory that they have to use fanatec gear. It's in the rules so they had way more time with them before reviewers got them I guess
Thank you for the comment. I've been discussing this with our esports technical team, who have been in contact with a few of the pro drivers who provided feedback or ran into issues, and these were all addressed. For example, Joni reported a brake issue and this was because he was using an old driver. It was solved after updating. We also received reports of the throttle not going back to 0% or not reaching 100%, and this was due to pushing the limits of the manual calibration (setting the min and max too close to the mechanical end points). Since then we have received no further reports and the pro drivers appear to be very satisfied with the new pedals.
@@DomB_Fanatec Wow ty for the comment! Didn't expect to get a reply on youtube. Any idea on Jarnos pedals? He was ranting a lot on stream, discord and tweeted about it and then probabaly had to delete it. Just curious, really want to ditch old ones! :D
@@deutscherspieler1310 Jarno never reached out to us about his pedals. Perhaps he was able to resolve the issues himself, or with his team. We are in close contact with all the F1 Esports teams to offer technical support.
What happened with your recent review of CSR pedals? Can't seem to find it.
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Hi! one small question! i don't hear a lot of noise coming from the throttle and brake, but i hear a lot from the clutch (in second game tested). It is because you press it quicker? or? i'm intrested to buy those, but i really need them to be quiet! Thanks a lot!
Hi, these are as loud as any pedal out there, no matter the brand. They do have rubber stops at the end.
Hi sir can i have some advice? I have a ps5 console and im planning to bus these items, Shifter V1.5, Handbrake V1.5, CSL elite Steering wheel MCLAREN GT3 V2, Gran-Turismo DDpro Wheelbase, and CSL elite Redals V2 the latest version of pedal. Will these be conpatible to my Ps5?
Yed
What's the game for the touge section of the video? Graphics look like AC but the HUD doesn't?
Assetto corsa
How much travel lc make in mm? On stock elastomers?
Would the load cell theoretically fit the v1 if they sold it separately?
technically yes. Remains to be seen if the firmware would support it, IF they sold it seperatly.
The new load cell system requires the new electronics box of the V2, and this box is not compatible with the V1 throttle and clutch pedals.
Ah ok, thanks for the replies guys 😊
@@DomB_Fanatec they could just sell the pedal + box as they did with v2 version for let's say 129,99€ or so...
Does the brake pedal rock side to side on it's bolt like V1's? Had to sell them cause of that crap
Nope
If you now choose to experiment with the V3s to try to match the feeling of this brake pedal (with the preload screw and the BPK), could you share your findings please ?
not possible to replicate. completely different beast.
@@randomcallsign How so? Isn’t it just about spring or elastomer combination?
Poxa faz vídeo em português, sou do Brasil e sou seu fã
Demasiado trabalho para um par de viewd
If money is not a factor v3 clubsport vs these?
That video will be done ;)
@@randomcallsign Hahha my v3 got delivered today so I have 14 days
Ah. It might take more than that. Though I like the V2 brake more.
@@randomcallsign How about the throttle faceplate? I noticed you liked it for heel&toe, but would longer faceplate be better?
CSL Elite V2's, I just changed from V3's to these, I loved the look of the V3 but the brake pedal isn't very good in my opinion. The clutch pedal is better on the V3 if that's important to you, but if you don't use it often then the V2's clutch is fine. Throttle has maybe more throw. The V2's are all about the brake pedal, make no mistake, this is outstanding, you'd need to spend a lot more money to get better than this, it gives you superb control of your braking, trail braking and brake modulation is so easy with the V2's. Excellent build quality too. The only thing I didn't like about them was the rubber on the throttle, easily removed.
299 ?? On the website for me they where 499 ???
299 euros, 299 usd. 499 is in aud
Price increase of 70 Euro and 130 A$
Is this better than TCLM ?
yes
Are these better than tlcm?
yeah, imo
I just got my V3s 4 days ago, can I send them back, get my money back and buy the elite v2s?
Yes, you have 14 days to return the product. Although it's possible that you have to pay for the shipping when you send it back.
theres literally no reason to buy fanatec pedals unless you are on console and have no other option
Why
@Centxe because fanatec don't make good pedals. They arent a pedal company. Save the pennies and buy heusinkveld sprints
Why bother? I mean, everything on EU store is "sold out" and has been like that for at least the last 4 months
Stovk is available
haha..always made me laugh.
The CSL elite v2 are £300 I think….. this is not a budget price!!!! Over £150
is midrange. Reclassify and do the video properly.
No