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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- If there was such a thing as a 'standard issue pedal set', this is it.
Cheap, simple and maybe a bit generic, but at least what you see is what you get.
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#iracing #simracing
0:00 Intro
0:57 Round-Up
2:18 Overview
4:50 Tuning Kit
5:58 Driving
8:58 Comparisons
10:51 Conclusion - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
*Pro Tip:* For people that don't use the clutch pedal... If you don't like how the throttle pedal has zero resistance, you can use the clutch pedal as the throttle, instead. Additionally, if you don't want the longer 'throw' of the clutch pedal, you can swap the "rubbers" between those two pedals --- So now, you have a throttle pedal with shorter travel that has resistance that makes it easier to modulate the accelerator.👍
EDIT: These pedals are also on Fanatec's Black Friday sale for 199.99 (normally 299.99) ...
They could charge $10 more and add a fking spring to the throttle. If fanatec wants to stay in the sim market for more years they have to up their game and stop overcharging for crap.
@@stonecold91 I changed the clutch with the throttle but haven't exchanged the rubber stops yet. Did you? If so, any thoughts? Thx!
@@magalha05843 These are how I am running my current pedals, yes. Works 100% as intended.
@eagletrippin I changed the clutch with the throttle but haven't exchanged the rubber stops yet. Did you? If so, any thoughts? Thx!
@@magalha05843 The rubber stops, yes. Carefully, gently remove them with some pliers -- shouldn't take too much strength to pull them out. Just remember you'll need to recalibrate them in the Fanatec software.
Even though I'm not totally interested in these pedals specifically, I still enjoy watching your reviews regardless, thanks Danny!
Thanks very much, your view is much appreciated. To be honest I waste far too much time doing exactly the same with other people's reviews on stuff I'll probably never have
Review is spot on for the general idea I have of this pedal set, but I thought the ease of tuning and customizing the brake pedal over the V3 was underappreciated.
You can change the brake bushings in line 1/10 of the time it'd take you to change the elastomers on the V3. And besides the time, with the V3 there's also the hassle.
I was pretty much settled on buying the V3 until Fanatec released the CSL V2
I just ordered them, couldnot resist the black friday deal
Bonsoir,ai acheté ce pédalier Csl V2 au Black Friday,ai ouvert le colis,ne m'attendais pas à un produit de cette qualité pour le prix, solide, belle finition et facile à pour changer les élastomères,ne regrette pas mes sous.😻
Great review pal. I have the same pedals and you pretty much covered it all. The overall experience from when I ordered, to me setting up the pedals, was exceptionally German and efficient! 😂
I ordered all of the components for the sim rig on the same day - Fanatec pedals arrived first and were probably packaged the nicest!
thanks for the review I've been watching all you equipment reviews I trust what you have to say - I've been wanting to dip my toes into the sim racing world for a while now - finally decided to go for it and chose these pedals to go with my DD+ and McLaren wheel and prime cockpit. Just need to find a good seat and I'll be ready to join the sim racing world :))
They're $199 right now. Go for it.
@@VictorRomano
Yeah I know, I ordered them at the time of my pre order of the DD+ @ €299 the order won't ship till it's complete, so I've asked them seeings they are still at only order stage if I can have the, €100 taken off the order... Obviously we all know how efficient Fanatec customer service is these days, so lord only knows how long I'll be waiting for a reply or if I even get one.
Great review! And even better there’s a great Black Friday deal for them!
I was deciding on my first load cell pedals earlier this year and considered at first the thrustmaster tlcm but a friend talked me out of them. Then I looked at the CSL pedals, shortly after that I watched a lot of reviews of these CSL elite v2 pedals and decided that was the right way to go.
It is a complete game changer in my racing consistency and feel for the braking, it is worth every penny of those 300e. I run it with the blue spring and softest polymers just as they came from the factory, because I don't have any preference yet. I have it setup at about 40% and I mitigated the soft throttle spring by swapping clutch and gas pedals. I don't use the clutch much right now but I will in The near future as I just got my first H-pattern shifter. I may have to ti change the distance of gas to brake for better heel and toe. I might try harder polymers early next year.
I am so happy I went for this set as every review still says they are a great entry into the segment and I am sure I will be happy with them for years to come.
Thanks for your feedback, considering to upgrade from Logitech to these. Have fun! 😁👍
@@pewq4691Did you make the switch? I think Danny Lee has this one totally wrong, sure the clutch pedal is only "fine" but none of those fancy clutches amount to much with the bite point feel, if it isn't exactly in tune with the games bite point, what's the point? The gas pedal is good enough to give good throttle control but its all about the brake pedal. To quote other sim racers "Fanatec nailed it" I had a set of Clubsport V3's and the brake pedal on that even with the upgrade kit damper and uprated springs is well vague. I tried many pedals from all the big names up to around a £1,000, none of them are significantly better than the CSL Elite V2's brake pedal. What they do have is greater adjustment. That said if your pedal tray has tilt you should be ok. Had mine since a little after launch, truly an outstanding brake pedal paired with perfectly fine clutch and responsive throttle pedal. Nothing standard about them.
@@oktc68 Nah, got a PSVR2 instead. Absolute gamechanger. Fanatec really needs to get their act together with their management and shipping services 🤦♂️
Hey Danny. Great video. You have a new subscriber! Can’t believe I missed your channel.
Thanks for the sub, mega appreciated!
Man what a good review this was. I had one of these and upgraded to a higher end one, but still watched everything just because of how well and criticality thought this was. And just to add something, I upgraded to a much higher cost pedal just because while I had this one I went into the ‘your pedal has to be stiff’ theory and didn’t give the softest elastomers a proper go. Of course I won’t go back to using this, but if I could go back I’d never had upgraded and this pedal would be the last thing I’d upgrade in my gear list.
Thanks man, appreciated
Hi Danny~ May I ask for a quick advice? Ignoring the price difference, how is this Fanatec CSL Elite V2 Pedals compare with Heusinkveld Hltimate (non-plus version)? Will you also go fo this CSL Elite V2? Thanks a lot!@@dannyleeracing
I'm gonna get them, such a good deal right now!
They're respectable at 300, absolutely brilliant at 200
I got these around March and instantly got faster. I need a new chassis to deal with the pedal flex tho 😅. Nice video like always
Heads up they are on a $100 dollar discount right now for black Friday! 300 -> 200 USD
Great video Danny. Really don’t know whether to pick up some V3s second hand, or take advantage of the Black Friday with these???
These
I just bought the v3s did I do the rite thing. I love them so far. Couldn’t decide between v2 and v3.
I bought these pedals as an upgrade from my CSL. These pedals are the best budget pedals avaible if you ask me! I hated the load cell till I got used to it! Standard issue in moving into a load cell lol. These pedals are fantastic tho! I just needed to move into proper braking and this did it.
Load cells always cause that 'oh god, what is this' feeling when you first try one! Thanks for dropping a comment
I've toyed with upgrading from my CSL to these for a while. I already have the blue spring mod from ebay for the CSL which feels great so I am not sure the upgrade will add much. No doubt I'll get a pedal upgrade at some point this year.
I do wonder if you can remove the pedals from the main base and attach them individually to the rig's pedal plate
These were good pedals. One thing no one mentions is that pedals that are angled back this far really need to be used in a more upright driving position. If you try to use them in a low seating position you can by tilting the whole pedal set towards you however the problem no one mentions is that your heels then rest on a slope as opposed to a flat surface. Doesn’t seem like a big deal at first, however over the course of a race I found my heel would slide down the heel rest and result in me pushing lower on the face of the brake pedal than I was at first. That means less leverage and less brake force being applied and making me miss the corner from under braking. This happened so much I had to make a makeshift heel rest to stop my heel from sliding down all the time. I’ve seen others do similar things so I’m sure it’s not just a problem I experienced. If you want your pedals level with or higher than your seat base I’d say look elsewhere.
Regarding the brake initial travel, could you put the 2no springs in with a spacer in between to increase it 🤔.
I have the oedals and still watch the review even though i k ow the outcome lol. The pedals are great and brake control is very accurate and simple. I know if i get a real stiff upgraded pedal.om going to regret it. Also very somid i bought mine used and previous owner used rhem for years. They still work loke brand new
I just bought the fumula 2.5x wheel today on sale for €199 absolute bargain plus the gr2 base slide for dd pro only €19. Unbelievable value
I started with the CSL and went to the V2 and have been extremely happy with them. I agree with the overly light throttle and what I did was swapped the clutch pedal and rubber (for the travel) since I don't use the clutch.
That's great to hear, I half-considered doing it myself....
@@dannyleeracing super easy! Thanks for the detailed review.
How does the V2 throttle compare to the CSL one? Lighter?
@@ViaticalTree it felt exactly the same. The clutch on the V2 feels just right as a throttle pedal
hi. is it like g29's throttle?
Have you ever tried the clubsport V3 to compare the two?
I've the V3 but I've heard many say these feel better. Not sure whether to sit on mine, change to CSL V2 or wait for the potential of a new clubsport V4 or CSL elite v3
If you already have the V3's then there's no real reason to 'downgrade', I'd stick if I were you!
I feel like my brake is too stiff, despite having the lightest config
Was this planned or just random that they had a deal on them? Very good timing otherwise haha
Have had these pedals for some months now:
For drifting, throttle is WAAAY to easy to press in. Im a tall guy And just the weight of my foot presses the throttle in. So I get tired in my legs keeping my feet at zero throttle. So any throttle control is very hard.
Today I swapped the throttle and clutch pedals over and it’s a new world! I can live with a very soft clutch. But I expected more from Fanatec to be honest. Didn’t expect to have to modify it to get it drivable 😅
These pedals are 199.99 right now for black friday!
have these and really like them, though ive not tried any other pedals
jus got these and yes they taste like cake
Crumbly
are these better then simforge i cant decide between this two
Hi Danny, how do these stack up against the H Sprints? Is worth saving that bit more 🤔
I'd say that the H sprints are not MASSIVELY better for outright ability, but they are much better for build, customer support and customisation. The H sprints are great to use, but not double/triple the cost great unless you have the absolute ability to require such precision.
These go for 200 on black friday right now, at least in the eu
If the spring is stiffer on the clutch pedal, would it be possible to swap the clutch and throttle spring? Good review.
It's probably doable, but I haven't tried it myself. Hang around long enough and a viewer is bound to comment with the answer!
you just put the clutch pedal to the right side and the clutch pedal to the left. Swap the rubber stoppers too. No need to deal with the springs.
@@vb_matic4166Thanks! Is the difference in spring stiffness very perceptible? Thanks again.
@@vb_matic4166 I have swapped the gas with clutch as well, kept the stopper, gives a slight increase in pedal travel, so maybe more sensitivity? It was a great idea to do the swap, the gas feels so much better. I have yet to properly use the clutch but it will be coming soon since I just got a H-pattern shifter so I can now give heel and toe and manual clutching a proper go. Hope the extra extra softness wont be too terrible.
Sold my V3’s last week for MSRP. Bought these today for $200 dollars cheaper because of Fanatecs Black Friday deals. Result 😊
That's the beauty of selling Fanatec stuff, it always sells easily and not far off full value
@@dannyleeracing and the buyer will know I’ll ship it far quicker than Fanatec will 😂
Have you tried the moza srp pedals? Debating between the 2
@@AKtoTok I’m currently PS5 only so need console compatibility
Hello, i just recently recieved these pedals and i had a question: is it nornal that the brake has like 0 travel distance? I was under the impression that the load cell would add pressure as the brake travels further down, but as it stands i cant even tell how much pressure im putting because it feels like im pushing against a pedal that is just frozen stiff.
Im using the blue spring and the 65 thing-a-ma-gigs which to my understanding are the softest options, and i set the sensitivity to 15% cause its the only way can hit 80% break pressure without pushing myself off my seat lol.
Are you sure you're talking about the CSL Elite V2 pedals? The CSL Pedals have a VERY stiff brake pedal with the load cell kit, but these Elite V2's are quite different!
@@dannyleeracing hey ty for responding, yeah im sure its the v2 pedals. After a few days ive gotten slightly more used to them and since bumped the brake force up to 25%, but yeah they are stiff as a board with almost no travel distance. Do you suppose its perhaps a faulty set?
@@KarimBoctorAwad Hey, same here. CSL Elite V2. I guess I didn't do enough researching. Travel distance is 0, without a rig there is no point in having them. I thought It was ok since it had different elastomers, but they are all even stiffer.
And if you decrease your BRF to a lower value (like below 25%), it just means that now you brake on even smaller distance/pressure difference, so it's even harder to modulate.
I've tried them on a rig, and I think I'll be able to get used to them, but I still really miss a little bit of travel. I'm looking into some softer elastomeres/springs. And most of the pedal cams of GT and rally cars I watched had quite a bit of travel, so I don't think you could say they are more realistic.
So, no. I don't think you got a faulty set (unless we both got one) :)
@@Kommitr thank you so much for this insight, that is really good to know. I highly appreciate it
The main thing I wonder is if it's worth an upgrade from the first generation of CSL Elites. My original CSL Elites are 3 years old now and the elastomers are getting pretty worn. I've been hanging out for a new Clubsport (configurable for 2 pedal set up) or Podium level release from Fanatec but now that there is a Black Friday deal for these I might just bite the bullet. Frustrating that Fanatec doesn't offer any kind of product road map to indicate future releases
If you're in love with your current set, then the V2 would be a good replacement. If you're wanting more customization, look elsewhere.
I have the exact same situation as you and finally grabbed these on bf sale… can’t wait until they arrive
Is the throttle pedal stiffer than that of the CSL pedals?
Não, é igual, eu tenho os CSL e os V2…talvez um pouquinho mais rígido mas pouca coisa… pedias v2 são TOP…
As the v2 and 3 are on sale, which would you consider the better buy v2 @200 or v3 at 3 ?
The V3 bundle currently on sale has almost everything you'd want, so if you were planning to spend 300 anyway then opt for the V3
Thanks for the feedback looking forward to trying it
Standardly likeable? It's well beyond the standards for $300 not a single pedal set in that range competes with these. The brake is so good out of the box and even 1k dollar sets need more adjustments to feel as good and im not the only one who says this lol.
The travel is nice on the brake the old csl wasnt at all it needed that spring im happy with there choice!
Originally had the CSL load cell pedals and always felt that I could not warm up to them well and was slower than I was without the load cell upgrade. I decided to give these CSL elite v2s a shot and I have been much more consistent and the adjustability has made it even easier. A friend of mine has the clubsport v3s and I felt that for what they are asking it is too much and the elite v2s are perfect. Nice review as always!
Good to hear opinions, thanks for chipping in!
What is the stand of the screen called i need a stand for my screen so i dont need to sit just infront of my desk
Danny did you post this now on purpose because of the BF sale? Cheeky.
It was scheduled for 6PM later today, but then I saw them go on sale, leapt up from the sofa shouting 'ZOINKS' and posted it. Jammy/lucky that I just had it ready.
@@dannyleeracing haha legend! It's all about that grind/algorithm!
Sounds like someone knows what's going on sale and when, or at least what :-)
32 seconds in, and i'm already leaving the video..... I have to find a Victoria Sponge now, It looks so good.
It's our curse
Personally I prefer the V2's to the Clubsport V3's, (although the V3's clutch pedal is better than the V2's) the brake pedal is much better, allowing for precise braking.
you can always swap the clutch and throttle over for a stronger throttle
ordered mine early September still have nothing.
According to you, how do they compare to thrustmaster t-lcm?
Never had the T-LCM's so I couldn't comment, but eyeballing it I would consider these a safer bet just by looking at how the LCM's are built. Would be cool to have some to test out eventually to answer that question
@@dannyleeracing Thrustmaster should wake up and send you some of their gear. 😴
I bought these pedals as an upgrade from my CSL and the only thing a mis is the spring on the throttle. It's to soft in my opinion.
It would be better with a stiffer throttle for sure, it's in the ballpark but it would be nice to have the option to adjust!
Just a warning, I bought these pedals in nov black friday, recieved them in early jan and the load cell brake died after about 10-20hours use.
Iv'e been waiting over a month for fanatec to answer their support ticket.
I'm not the only one this has happened to, many of us are in the same boat.
That's a shame, man - parts go wrong, stuff sometimes breaks, but they GOTTA answer their tickets quicker
@@dannyleeracing parts do go wrong but it's happened to a load of us with the exact same symptoms, seems they sent out a dodgy batch around black friday.
what would you recommend, clubsport v3 for $300 or elite v2 for $200? Now I use regular csl with load cell sensor
How much stiffer is the throttle compared to the normal csl pedals?
I'd say they're the same, almost zero difference in stiffness, but they DON'T clunk at the backstop like the CSL's do.
@@dannyleeracing would you recommend buying the elite V2 or buy the LC to the CSL and an ebay mod to make the throttle on the CSL stiffer?
@@TTMScissors I'd say it depends on whether you're going to upgrade again anytime soon. If it's gonna be your set for years to come, go for the Elite V2's - they're on sale right now aswell for 33% off.
@@dannyleeracing ok thanks 🙏
@@dannyleeracing do you think the Clubsport V3 pedals could get a discount? Because if the get i’ll buy them instead
Now with these on sale is insane for only 199.95 USD
Just snagged them. Last thing I needed
There are aftermarket mods that solve the issue for the throttle n clutch
3DRap? Or are there others, too?
Should i buy these or the tlcm?
I'd go for these - even though I've not yet tried T-LCM pedals, from what I have seen and heard the CSL Elites seem the better choice
These on the Black Friday sale for today only. $100 off.
Uploaded because the black Friday sale?
Was planned to go up today, just lucky that it coincides with their sale. If I was less lazy it'd have been up yesterday
@@dannyleeracing perfect timing 😅
@@MIMCKMedia Suspiciously good, that's half the problem. This was dumb luck!
they're still shipping faulty load cell brakes on these for some reason in 2023 and 2024. after finding the issue goes back to initial launch i think this is unacceptable. it seems they are pretending the issue doesnt exist and have not appeared to at least increase QA on this component
What's the issue? I've seen reports of some of the load cell shafts snapping (see Jarno Opmeer), is it something different to that?
@@dannyleeracing mine never worked out of the box, just unresponsive. firmware is up to date and I've tried connecting to wheelbase as well as direct to pc. I haven't heard back from fanatec in 2 months
@@jasenhenry 2 months is totally unacceptable - you submitted your ticket 2 months ago and haven't heard anything back since? What region may I ask?
@@dannyleeracing i sent an email two months ago. however my ticket was opened last tues. im not expecting a speedy response, if at all. already contacted my credit card to exercise buyer protection. this is an avoidable hassle. im in US
It's completely avoidable, this has been a real winter of discontent for Fanatec customers affected by this stuff. They've gotta fix it for good or they'll be no more. I hope you get a fast resolution either way.@@jasenhenry
biggest problem of this pedals is the elastomers, this are going to be dead, and brake will start "feeding brake input" without any force after 3-5 months of use
I swapped the elastomers with hard metal springs and now the brake force stays consistent, a bit unrealistic feel with the springs but i am all about laptimes and consistency
you should ask jarno opmeer about biuld quality😂😂😂😂 they are btw now on sale only for 200 euro
Oh yeah 😂
Context for people: Jarno Opmeer, an F1 esports pro, broke two sets of Elite V2s. He must have the leg of an ox!
@@dannyleeracing do you feel like it is easy to break? I've seen some people reporting that they destroyed the brake pedal easily, and it got me a bit worried. Couldn't skip the 200 Euro sale though, finally upgrading from the G27 :)
Hated these peddles 🤷🏻♂️
Why? Iv the v3s love them.
not enough details to use this as a credible opinion.
@@Django45 true lol I just don’t like them
@@wallyedmonds8199in what way
They probably hated you too because you called them peddles.