I faced this choice 2 weeks ago. I chose the V2 because it is as good as the V3 in stock condition. I don't need adjustable pedals (you only set them once anyway), the vibration motors are nice but I see it as a gimmick. The brake pedal is very adjustable to suit my needs. I have absolutely no regrets.
I've been looking into getting a pedal upgrade from my logitech pedals. This video really helped me get out of the v3 hype, which I do not have enough money for if I ever want to get any other sim racing gear. Keep up the good work.
You forgot to mention the vibration motors on V3. Using it with simhub is a blast. Specially on trottel and rear tyres loosing traction. In you video they don't work and the one for brake is upside down. Loosing the leverage. V3 is still superieure imo. I bought it for €299 on black friday with free performance kit. Great value.
Are there any tutorials you know of on how to use the V3 with Simhub. I've only used it with fanalabs and feel the motor strength is bit week or not giving info often enough.
I'm using the CSL Elite V2. I don't drive manual cars so I use the clutch pedal as the accelerator. The bumpstops can also be swapped between clutch and gas pedals, so you can have a firmer gas pedal with short travel. The brake pedal has great feel.
I'm pretty sure the V3s just aren't worth the 420€(with BPK) askingprice anymore. But with the current sale and both of them at the same price, they are a really good pedal set for the money you spend ,which can hold up for years.
When I first went to fanatec 3 years ago I got the V3's, I'm old and was getting knee and hip pain from my ankles being to close together when left foot braking even after spacing them as far as I could. So I got the CSL elite pedals with load cell and haven't looked back and have no intention of going a higher quality pedal set. Now the new ones have upgrade sensors I'll probably upgrade to them when my potentiometers crap em selfs
I've the original CSL Elites and its loadcell position was a terrible decision. Glad they fixed it for the V2s - but of course, no upgrade path other than buying a whole new set. As a matter of curiosity, would the newer V2 brake pedal fit into the older Elites?
i kind of have an advantage here because i got my V3's for £150 (2nd hand) and bought a performance kit so iirc £200 in total. I still prefer the look of the V3's over the V2's as to me they look more solid and more professional, just my opinion though so please dont witch hunt me lol
I went from the original csl elite pedals to the v3 and I can honestly say I preferred the csl elites, imo the brake was just better, granted the clutch and throttle are better on the v3s
I agree, i just bought the clubsport pedals and was on csl elite with load cell and the brake on the csl feels much better. Im still waiting for the performance kit for the v3 but i don't see how it will make that much of a difference to push it over the CSL its just making it softer or harder and the problem is the amount of pedal travel on the v3 its too linear where the CSL has a mushy start and then can get as hard as you like so it feels like a real car. In a real car the first 20% of the brake pedal is soft unt you start actually getting hydraulic pressure, just like the CSL feel. I think the foam insert of the brake performance kit for the clubsport might fix it but ill wait and see, i have a feeling i will be selling the clubsport or modding it so i can use the csl brake instead
Thx for this review. I have the base pedals w/o the clutch or the load cell. I was going to buy the load cell but might give the V2 another look. Are there any other brands that work well in the Fanatec ecosystem that aren't super expensive? I have the CSL DD for PC/PS
I was running the CSL pedals with load cell and upgraded to the Elite V2 pedals - the difrerence is huge, specifically in terms of feel, balance and especially threshold and trail braking. It was a harder decision for me because I had the full load cell CSL setup, but if you haven't got the load cell for yours yet, I'd suggest going straight to the Elite V2s instead.
@@randomcallsignDo you think it’s worth choosing V3 for $299 with a full set of elastomers and damper, for this amount are they better than V2? Is it really impossible to adjust the brake there in the same way as on V2 using these additional rubber bands?
Doesnt it bothers you a little that when the pedals come back on the V3, they just kinda slam into another aluminium piece? i was expecting some form of cushioning, they are also louder than the T-LCM i had before. Also the original brake and throttle spring are maybe for people who could use it on the floor? Even the T-LCM throttle was a bit harder than V3 default one, changed it for the stronger spring now, have to test it, but damn the red one looks way better. Didnt feel the need to change the clutch one tho.
Based on this and other reviews of the CSL V2's I will probably go with those. Are there any other pedals from other brands in that $200-$400 market that would be better than the CSL V2's?
I'd love to see a comparo with the regular CSL LC pedals too. I don't think there's a single comparison video out right now where somebody compares the CSL LCs to the ELite V2s. It'd be nice to hear just how different the two pedal sets are, and how worth it it would be to upgrade.
If You own csl lc's already and enjoy some diy-ing, it might be worth investing some time and money to modify the hell out of them. Their simple construction makes them perfect for all kind of mods (changed all springs on mine, added vibration motors, dampening rod on throttle, dual stage clutch, progressive brake with spring, changed plates) but when buying new... considering that's only 100 euro difference between elite's v2, csl lc's are not worth it.
@@BurtSampson Can totally recommend RaceSimEngineering guy, all stainless steel, all tight and smooth, theres some adjustability to that kit. Not cheapest but well designed and does the job making pedals a lot heavier and less bland and boring. Bite point and heavier clutch is cool, makes it more realistic and immersive. Dont have any experience with 3drap mod, I went harder route just buying "few" different die springs, elastomers, washers and spacers from some industrial suppliers. With a lot trial and error I eventually found the exact brake feeling I was looking for. Another cool idea is little project with arduino, vibration motors and simhub to add vibrations like in v3's ;) Lot of hassle, but also lot of fun and satisfaction 'upgrading' your equipment and getting more out of it ;)
Im gonna be honest here my mind wanted the v3s due to look but after using the v2s no way would i get the v3s. V2s I adapted to day 1 meaning they fit me. The brake was so so easy to adapt to and get consisten with so much so i was beating my best laps day 2 when comparing to my p1000s. Idc about looks when function and performance I get is better. Im not looking at my pedals when im playing lol. Its one of the best pedals of any price range ive used for trail braking. Ill never upgrade until they break lol get it? Until the break? Hahahaha yeah corny i know.
If price weren’t an issue, would you still take the CSL Elite V2s over the V3s? (I’m looking at the upcoming Black Friday sale that knocks $100 off the V3s)
That sale makes me don't want to buy the Elite V2 because they are now as expensive as the V3 :) That is why you put everything on sale in a product line or nothing :)
Hey folks. For those who have experience with both pedals, can you tell me which of the two can be configured in a way that requires less mechanical force to reach 100% brake input? The website states that the CSL can be configured with up to 10kg, but there's no information about the Clubsport. Thanks ;-)
I have both. Csl elite v2 are better in all aspects except the clutch pedal feeling. V3 doesn’t worth the money any more. Brake is far better on CSL elite v2
Mr. random callsign, I watched this video 5 times already as Im planning to buy either of these 2 and im still undecided. Which one would you buy, a used set of clubsport v3 or brand new csl elite if I can get them for the same price? Awesome channel btw.
Any V3 users that just use socks? I am wondering what you've decided to use for the BPK. I'm currently on 2 green and I think it is too stiff for when I am just using socks. But I'd like to hear what other people use, thanks.
Is it worth going from the full v3 (bpk znd damper) to the v2? I find the v3 making too much noise (metal) and are the v2 modifiable to 2 pedal as well?
@@randomcallsign Somehow I was convinced they had potentiometers on the clutch and throttle haha Well there's a ton of different improvements to be made as you said as well
@@ConanTheBavarian The Clubsport pedals always had haleffect sensors on the clutch and throttle (and always a loadcell brake) since the first version got released (which I still own), the V2 added the clutch bit point feel and damper on the brake. Than the v3 improved the loadcell (broke often), ease of adjustment with custom made dampers and a higher resolution output, and the loadcell sensitivity is now adjusted via the tuning menu rather then the potentiometer previously.
I bought these pedals and my loadcell failed after about 6 months and fanatec has not responded to my service requests for 2 weeks now. Fanatec customer service has been so bad in my experience I will not purchase anything from them again. I would advise everyone against buying these or any other product from fanatec. I will update this post with comments if anything changes.
After waiting 3 weeks and a half for a response from fanatec they have said they will be shipping me a replacement loadcell free of charge. While the wait for a response was far too long the resolution is fair and I can say that I’m satisfied with the end result.
V3 are old and shouldn't even be on the market anymore. They have such strange offerings: LC for 200 with loadcell, 300 V2 and old outdated V3. If you need the pedals to connect to the Fanatec Base, then it's a hard choice. If you need them only for the PC, and you're willing to spend 300 EUR, I would look at DC Simracing Pedals. They are "cheap" Sprints, with good design choices and they look "hardcore equipment".
Do you think it’s worth choosing V3 for $299 with a full set of elastomers and damper, for this amount are they better than V2? Is it really impossible to adjust the brake there in the same way as on V2 using these additional rubber bands?
Which one is your choice?
csl v2
Clubsport V3! Because I already own them XD
Csl v2
CSL v2
Have both, prefer the CSL v2
I faced this choice 2 weeks ago. I chose the V2 because it is as good as the V3 in stock condition. I don't need adjustable pedals (you only set them once anyway), the vibration motors are nice but I see it as a gimmick.
The brake pedal is very adjustable to suit my needs. I have absolutely no regrets.
I finally ordered my sim rig! Rseat p1 green
I’ve been racing at my desk for 3-4 years 😂
TY for this. The video helped me out quite a bit, with the V2 and V3 pedal set being heavily discounted on Black Friday on the Fanatec website.
Which did you go with?
I've been looking into getting a pedal upgrade from my logitech pedals. This video really helped me get out of the v3 hype, which I do not have enough money for if I ever want to get any other sim racing gear. Keep up the good work.
I love my V3s. Personally use them without brake performance kit. In my opinion they perform quite realistic, compared to my real cars.
You forgot to mention the vibration motors on V3. Using it with simhub is a blast. Specially on trottel and rear tyres loosing traction. In you video they don't work and the one for brake is upside down. Loosing the leverage. V3 is still superieure imo. I bought it for €299 on black friday with free performance kit. Great value.
Are there any tutorials you know of on how to use the V3 with Simhub. I've only used it with fanalabs and feel the motor strength is bit week or not giving info often enough.
I'm using the CSL Elite V2. I don't drive manual cars so I use the clutch pedal as the accelerator. The bumpstops can also be swapped between clutch and gas pedals, so you can have a firmer gas pedal with short travel. The brake pedal has great feel.
I'm pretty sure the V3s just aren't worth the 420€(with BPK) askingprice anymore. But with the current sale and both of them at the same price, they are a really good pedal set for the money you spend ,which can hold up for years.
Fair assessment
Yea I just bought the V3 for 199 with the Podium Bundle
I bought the podium and v2 extra better brake
v3s because the theottle throw. feels amazing
I got my barely used Clubsport V3's for 150€ 2 days ago so for that price they're more than worth it for me!
Who else bought the csr elite pedals with load cell and clutch for €$150. Those where the days man. Absolutely awesome pedal set imo.
I did. Upgrade came free with the csr when bought with the shifter back in the day
@@randomcallsign I'm searching to buy it back. My brother in law wants a cheap simrig. Lol if i can buy one under 100 it's a win.
When I first went to fanatec 3 years ago I got the V3's, I'm old and was getting knee and hip pain from my ankles being to close together when left foot braking even after spacing them as far as I could. So I got the CSL elite pedals with load cell and haven't looked back and have no intention of going a higher quality pedal set. Now the new ones have upgrade sensors I'll probably upgrade to them when my potentiometers crap em selfs
My back started to hurt as well. I lowered the pick of the brake pedal on Fanatec software and I don't have to push as hard anymore. Pain is gone now.
I pick v3 because 3 is more than 2. Which means they must be better. Numbers don't lie.
My main issue with v2 is all 3 pedals look the same. The accelerator should look different.
I've the original CSL Elites and its loadcell position was a terrible decision. Glad they fixed it for the V2s - but of course, no upgrade path other than buying a whole new set. As a matter of curiosity, would the newer V2 brake pedal fit into the older Elites?
I would like to know that as well
i kind of have an advantage here because i got my V3's for £150 (2nd hand) and bought a performance kit so iirc £200 in total. I still prefer the look of the V3's over the V2's as to me they look more solid and more professional, just my opinion though so please dont witch hunt me lol
Imo: If you need a clutch take the V3. If you don‘t need a clutch take the V2.
Can you take the clutch off?
@@CatTrashRacingdo your research
Why?
With the v3 being 40% off on blackfriday sale it was a nobrainer, but your comparison helped
I just ordered the V2 pedals
I went from the original csl elite pedals to the v3 and I can honestly say I preferred the csl elites, imo the brake was just better, granted the clutch and throttle are better on the v3s
Have u done the performance kit? For the brake pedal?
I agree, i just bought the clubsport pedals and was on csl elite with load cell and the brake on the csl feels much better. Im still waiting for the performance kit for the v3 but i don't see how it will make that much of a difference to push it over the CSL its just making it softer or harder and the problem is the amount of pedal travel on the v3 its too linear where the CSL has a mushy start and then can get as hard as you like so it feels like a real car. In a real car the first 20% of the brake pedal is soft unt you start actually getting hydraulic pressure, just like the CSL feel. I think the foam insert of the brake performance kit for the clubsport might fix it but ill wait and see, i have a feeling i will be selling the clubsport or modding it so i can use the csl brake instead
Yes, this kit can fix oll your problems. Do you try it?
how did you go after the BPK? do you prefer the V2 or V3's?
Get the V3’s you’ll save money in returning the V2’s after you feel the throttle 😮💨
Thx for this review. I have the base pedals w/o the clutch or the load cell. I was going to buy the load cell but might give the V2 another look.
Are there any other brands that work well in the Fanatec ecosystem that aren't super expensive?
I have the CSL DD for PC/PS
For PS you need Fanatec in a Fanatec wheel base
I was running the CSL pedals with load cell and upgraded to the Elite V2 pedals - the difrerence is huge, specifically in terms of feel, balance and especially threshold and trail braking. It was a harder decision for me because I had the full load cell CSL setup, but if you haven't got the load cell for yours yet, I'd suggest going straight to the Elite V2s instead.
@@randomcallsign Thx!
@@RiyadEmeran Thx!
@@randomcallsignDo you think it’s worth choosing V3 for $299 with a full set of elastomers and damper, for this amount are they better than V2? Is it really impossible to adjust the brake there in the same way as on V2 using these additional rubber bands?
Doesnt it bothers you a little that when the pedals come back on the V3, they just kinda slam into another aluminium piece? i was expecting some form of cushioning, they are also louder than the T-LCM i had before. Also the original brake and throttle spring are maybe for people who could use it on the floor? Even the T-LCM throttle was a bit harder than V3 default one, changed it for the stronger spring now, have to test it, but damn the red one looks way better. Didnt feel the need to change the clutch one tho.
Thanks
Based on this and other reviews of the CSL V2's I will probably go with those. Are there any other pedals from other brands in that $200-$400 market that would be better than the CSL V2's?
Simforge pedals
@@slobry Ow those do look like great value. Time to do some more research, thank you.
My pleasure, i would highly recommend those!
I'd love to see a comparo with the regular CSL LC pedals too. I don't think there's a single comparison video out right now where somebody compares the CSL LCs to the ELite V2s. It'd be nice to hear just how different the two pedal sets are, and how worth it it would be to upgrade.
check the last part of the video
@@randomcallsign roger
If You own csl lc's already and enjoy some diy-ing, it might be worth investing some time and money to modify the hell out of them. Their simple construction makes them perfect for all kind of mods (changed all springs on mine, added vibration motors, dampening rod on throttle, dual stage clutch, progressive brake with spring, changed plates) but when buying new... considering that's only 100 euro difference between elite's v2, csl lc's are not worth it.
@@kowalski3892 Yea, I've been looking at the Race Sim Engineering throttle mod, and the 3drap Elastomer Brake Mod.
@@BurtSampson Can totally recommend RaceSimEngineering guy, all stainless steel, all tight and smooth, theres some adjustability to that kit. Not cheapest but well designed and does the job making pedals a lot heavier and less bland and boring. Bite point and heavier clutch is cool, makes it more realistic and immersive. Dont have any experience with 3drap mod, I went harder route just buying "few" different die springs, elastomers, washers and spacers from some industrial suppliers. With a lot trial and error I eventually found the exact brake feeling I was looking for. Another cool idea is little project with arduino, vibration motors and simhub to add vibrations like in v3's ;) Lot of hassle, but also lot of fun and satisfaction 'upgrading' your equipment and getting more out of it ;)
Im gonna be honest here my mind wanted the v3s due to look but after using the v2s no way would i get the v3s. V2s I adapted to day 1 meaning they fit me. The brake was so so easy to adapt to and get consisten with so much so i was beating my best laps day 2 when comparing to my p1000s. Idc about looks when function and performance I get is better. Im not looking at my pedals when im playing lol.
Its one of the best pedals of any price range ive used for trail braking. Ill never upgrade until they break lol get it? Until the break? Hahahaha yeah corny i know.
If price weren’t an issue, would you still take the CSL Elite V2s over the V3s? (I’m looking at the upcoming Black Friday sale that knocks $100 off the V3s)
That's hard. At the same price the experience is better on the v3 but the brake on the V2 is better. So depends on what you want.
@@randomcallsign is the brake better on the v2 as opose to the v3 stock break or with the bpk
V2 is better
That sale makes me don't want to buy the Elite V2 because they are now as expensive as the V3 :) That is why you put everything on sale in a product line or nothing :)
CSL works for me.
Hey folks. For those who have experience with both pedals, can you tell me which of the two can be configured in a way that requires less mechanical force to reach 100% brake input? The website states that the CSL can be configured with up to 10kg, but there's no information about the Clubsport. Thanks ;-)
So the V3's are in dire need of an update. I was going to wish list some features here, but that would be pointless.
I have both. Csl elite v2 are better in all aspects except the clutch pedal feeling. V3 doesn’t worth the money any more. Brake is far better on CSL elite v2
I confirm that.
Mr. random callsign, I watched this video 5 times already as Im planning to buy either of these 2 and im still undecided. Which one would you buy, a used set of clubsport v3 or brand new csl elite if I can get them for the same price? Awesome channel btw.
Csl v2
@@randomcallsign Thank you very much for the reply. Your advice will help me tremendously. Awesome channel btw.
Any V3 users that just use socks? I am wondering what you've decided to use for the BPK. I'm currently on 2 green and I think it is too stiff for when I am just using socks. But I'd like to hear what other people use, thanks.
I'm using the hardest setting for my v3s with the curved pedal faces, I've never had a problem while wearing socks.
Is it worth going from the full v3 (bpk znd damper) to the v2? I find the v3 making too much noise (metal) and are the v2 modifiable to 2 pedal as well?
In Australia, the price difference between those two are less than 30 USD. Would you still choose V2 over V3 if the price is similar?
Yes
What spring and elastomers are you using with your V2 pedal set? and what brake force do you have selected with them?
blue and 60 shore. 60brkf
what are your thoughts on the v3 inverted from factory are they better than these both?
What socks are u using ?
With Black Friday deals, V3 All the way!
Pretty sure Fanatec are close to revealing ClubSport V4s with hall sensors tbh
the V3 already have hall effects.
love your username
@@randomcallsign Somehow I was convinced they had potentiometers on the clutch and throttle haha
Well there's a ton of different improvements to be made as you said as well
@@ConanTheBavarian The Clubsport pedals always had haleffect sensors on the clutch and throttle (and always a loadcell brake) since the first version got released (which I still own), the V2 added the clutch bit point feel and damper on the brake. Than the v3 improved the loadcell (broke often), ease of adjustment with custom made dampers and a higher resolution output, and the loadcell sensitivity is now adjusted via the tuning menu rather then the potentiometer previously.
Can I ask what slipper like shoes are you using. Thanks
Water shoes
Should u buy it?
I bought these pedals and my loadcell failed after about 6 months and fanatec has not responded to my service requests for 2 weeks now. Fanatec customer service has been so bad in my experience I will not purchase anything from them again. I would advise everyone against buying these or any other product from fanatec. I will update this post with comments if anything changes.
After waiting 3 weeks and a half for a response from fanatec they have said they will be shipping me a replacement loadcell free of charge. While the wait for a response was far too long the resolution is fair and I can say that I’m satisfied with the end result.
The problem is that fanatec is the only company with playstation compatibility, so if you want to play gt7 you are stuck with them
Can they be used without fixation on the ground??
they can. but you need to lower the sensitivity and use very little force
So CSP V3 or Moza CRP?
Ps5 compatible?
You should get neither
V3 are old and shouldn't even be on the market anymore. They have such strange offerings: LC for 200 with loadcell, 300 V2 and old outdated V3. If you need the pedals to connect to the Fanatec Base, then it's a hard choice. If you need them only for the PC, and you're willing to spend 300 EUR, I would look at DC Simracing Pedals. They are "cheap" Sprints, with good design choices and they look "hardcore equipment".
V3 are overpriced a lot..
V2 Looks Like toy
Both are junk
Why?
@@edwinvandenberg3633 V3's are difficult to adjust. Weak springs on the CSL's that can't be changed
What about the regular csl pedals . What are you thoughts about them
@@interestingvideos4046 Not a fan across the board with Fanatec stuff but they are very basic but ok
Do you think it’s worth choosing V3 for $299 with a full set of elastomers and damper, for this amount are they better than V2? Is it really impossible to adjust the brake there in the same way as on V2 using these additional rubber bands?