It's time for a change... here's what I had in mind.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- The time has come to retire Skunkworks... Shes had a long and wonderful life but sometimes its just time for a change... so this is what I had in mind.
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"Ain't nobody need 28-cores and 56 threads in their home pc." He says holding the siding to his $1,000 computer case.
i am 3D/VFX artist and i would love to have 64 core or even more PC... as i am freelancer :)
and then uses an 18 core 36 thread 9980xe?
@@MaciekJutrzenka cool
@@MaciekJutrzenka You will get it soon, TR3000 coming
Will make this 3175 obsolete
@@rulik006 yap can't wait to get my hands on it. however there is a bit of shift to GPU rendering nowadays... also i am looking forward to new GPU's from Nvidia wish they could get like 32gb ram ot at least 16gb in base specs.
Do a fully watercooled motherboard. The VRMs, M.2 drives, everything.
could you please make a series of you making your setup / man cave, i think a lot of people would like that and could even learn and take things out of it and use them to there own setup.
Yes! This! There are so many cool things out there you can use or do to make an awesome man cave so it would be cool to see what Jay would come up with for that.
Jay: I wanna get this system perfect because it’ll be my primary system for the next however many years.
Also Jay: Yeah I’ll just let EKWB screw me over and not get a different water block.
dunno why people keep using EKWB after they screwed Threadripper users
What Happened?
@@bobloadmire EKWB released a threadripper cooler that was not designed for the platform. they didn't make a cold plate but just enlarged their generic model and sold it as if it were TR4 specific.. found that the temps were high by about 20 degrees and they did not give refunds to people who purchased them, but instead released an even more expensive model and STILL sells the old one as if it were the TR4 cooler..
@@BikingWIthPanda I bought a EK 60mm radiator for my Rack mounted system, wouldn't dare take risks with their fans so I went with Noctua. I don't care about brands.
If you install Windows 10 with this motherboard you need to disable WiFi and Bluetooth fist in the Bios.
It's a fault in Windows, otherwise it it keeps crsshing when you ty to install it.
Have the same motherboard and had that problem.
When Windows is installed, you can enable WiFi and Bluetooth again in the Bios (if you need it).
@mikes gt agreed - if Windows 10 doesnt do that with the vast majority of mobo's, the fault is with the mobo maker (or bios maker, assuming they are different).
Can confirm this is an issue with this board. We do about 3-4 TR builds a month using these boards at work.
That's interesting. I don't have this board, but I have another that sounds similar, windows crashes on installation no matter what form of media I use, even hung a CD Drive off the side to try it that way. Gonna give this a try and see if it works. I'm at a loss on why I can't get windows on this thing.
@@josephschulte1073 I got this solution by a lot of trial and error.
Allmost threw the damn thing away (LOL)
My laptop was having this problem (dell) and I had to install WiFi drivers first
Since you have so much space try an include a LCD screen in the build that shows the temps/fans/stats etc...
I'd like that but I think he'd find it tacky, said he wants it classy.
You want a distribution block or a custom reservoir made up? Only takes a couple days.
CyberDen Systems I hope he goes for the distribution block
nah pls don't, that shit gets too mainstream
@@squadric7722 using the term "mainstream" is too mainstream
Surprise him and us both!!
@@TheSuperMonkeyman141 that would be cool. He wants over the top. I could do something with a bunch of mixed materials like carbon fiber, copper, brass, nickel etc.
Jay: Nobody needs 28 cores and 56 threads.
AMD has left the chat
Pretty much lol
fuck AMD welcome team Blue
@@rafalbuijs5061 team blue is for people that love getting price gouged for %5 more performance on one task. Airheaded chumps
@@scottyhaines4226 team red is for idiots that think that they need 58 cores for gaming because it is cheaper. AMD is coocking ready they have not the proper thermal disign on there CPU's
@@rafalbuijs5061 you say that but the I-9 9900k is a toaster of a CPU while the Ryzen 7 series and even the Ryzen 9 series all run cooler with less energy consumption than a competing Intel CPU that only goes up to 8 cores and 16 threads max.
I hope you keep Skunkworks on display somewhere as it is a well loved symbol of the channel and how it started.
An Homage to CaseLabs............
@@lotechgreg yes rip caselabs
Just build a separate NAS for the mechanical drives and only put SSD's in this PC!
I was going to say exactly this! /\
Just use Skunkworks for the NAS.
Mechanical drives used as storage in a desktop pc mostly die from frequent startups over many years. If Jay would just hook up those drives to a raspberry pi and leave them idling on a shelf they would last for decades.
@@markm0000 smart!!!
everytime jay makes this kinds of videos, its always a reminder of how poor I am
i dont want to talk about it
How much does he pay for it? I don't mean that facetiously but it seems (and happy to be corrected) most of what he gets is free, as in demo stock. It makes it easy to make super over the top builds when you have to pay for very little of it! Haha
Props to Jay for being successful enough to do it, but dont feel bad about not being able to afford it. I doubt even Jay would pay some of the prices we would have to if he brought them himself ;)
Me watching expensive PC on my less than 200$ phone 😐
@Bitter Clinger it's a bit like watching a car show that has a Bugatti on. We "normies" will never likely be able to sit in one, let alone own one. Doesn't stop me from enjoying the show because it fun to see just how far it can be taken (I mean seriously does anyone need a car that can do over 250mph?! Lol)
@@OhNooJosephJoestar does it do what you need? If so why worry if it costs 200 or 2,000? Most phones are basically the same these days once you get past the labels and marketing hype LOL
Dude make a home Nas for backup files... You don't need it powered up 24/7 to worry about HD failure
Hearing Phil laugh makes me forget all the evil in the world, even if it's only for a moment.
Phil is my Sunshine... since the T Shirt Commercial :-)
Definitely get that case stripped, horrible finish.
Doing a powder coating of something would colour would look good, or get really crazy and get it done in black chrome.
It's kind of ironic that OC3D did a vid earlier Friday walking through that same process. Or, this obviously rushed video is a result of Jay getting inspired by OC3D's TTL.
> Ain't nobody need 28-cores and 56 threads in their home pc
Sure, but once the Ryzen 2 Threadrippers are released, I'm expecting you to do a fun little build ;)
Nah. Dual CPU Epyc 2
@@jaanikaapa6925 Because who needs 128 cores.
Bartosz Bartosiewicz I do. :)
Make all of the tubes diagonal to match with the lines on the motherboard
Jay: They only made 15 of these cases.
Also Jay: I'm thinking of painting this case.
I'm not saying he shouldn't respray the case he can do whatever he wants just thought that was funny
Yea, he is like that.
@Libertarian20XX if you have to ask, you must be new here, lol
this obviously went over your head.
@@goldoryellow6882 there's nothing wrong with customizing hardware but when you're buying something unique most people don't think about making changes to it. It's like adding a ricer spoiler to a Ferrari. Again, there's nothing wrong with painting the case but most people wouldn't because of its rarity.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD The quality of the finish on this case makes the analogy more like he's removing the ricer spoiler from his Ferrari :)
Jay, I think you should do dual loops. It would help fill the space to the right of the board and balance the build if you have two reservoirs. Not sure what your color plans are, but maybe use different color liquids for each loop?
Jay: "I have a nickel backplate"
Me: "ooooooh I wanna be a Rockstar"
Look at this 'graph
"I want a brand new house on an episode of Cribs."
ahahahaha very clever
I pray you don't like Nickelback.
Nickelback plate
Had my HAF 932 for 6-7 years now, still like the way it looks, and all the original fans still work.
Jay: I never had a extreme gaming machine
Skunkworks: Am I joke to you?
Damn it you said it before I did
He said man-cave, not PC
What, am I here to fuckn' amuse you?
If you have electrical crimping pliers, you can thread those screws in to the center of them (usually 6 holes, threaded on one side of the pliers), and cut them to desired length. When you unscrew them from the pliers, the threads are cleaned up.
That Case deserves a Star Trek themed LCD panel. Somewhere. Looks like a BORG Node please go Black and Green for the BORG. 🙌😡
That is the beauty of RGB.
That’s an absolutely ridiculous case... perfect for Skunkworks.
It would be pretty cool if you did a build inspired by the battleships and the models you’ve done and painted in detail from Instagram.
build a computer inside the deck of a model aircraft carrier
I gotta tell ya Jay. Most times I skip other people’s embedded ads. Yours are so genuine and funny, I just let them play. Love your stuff bro.
same here man
I would kill for the Case Labs case from Skunkworks! Just give me the name. 🤣
There is a build in this case, which "PC-Welt" is working on, der8auer was also there in some episodes.
maybe it gives you some ideas :D
Edit: it is german so be aware
sorry aber PC Welt find ich unsympathisch, und die Höllen Maschinen sind so schlecht durchdacht.
@@lukasstadler6594 ich sage nicht, dass die gut sind, aber die haben den platz und so gemanaged und jay sucht noch ideen, vllt kann er deren fehler korrigieren :D
Edit: die sind schon cringy...
@@davidluft9000 Hab auch nich dich geflamed, alles chill aber PC Welt find ich halt echt nich koscher
@@lukasstadler6594 warum genau? :)
To remove vibration, I use thin cardboard like from a battery pack. if you cut it right, you don't see the cardboard and removes any vibration for extremely cheap and it is non conductive.
Jay: This build will take long time.
Post Malone: *Hold my beer* "Jay I need a new PC"
I don't think Jay will be working with Post again he mentioned in another video that he was kinda slighted by Posts complete lack of enthusiasm about a build that probably still haunts Jay's dreams. Now if Terry Crews called up......
@@adamjacobs8606 That's because Post Malone is trash and any content from that project is complete trash. And yeah, Terry Crews is awesome!
Jay, these detailed build videos are 10000x more entertaining than b-roll of a completed build. Really like the direction your channel is going even while being a fan for years. Keep it up!
Jay, Strip the case and have it anodized. Would be 10000% better.
agreed, go balls out with the mods.
you know what would look good? thick matt-black flexible tubing and nothing but simple straight fittings. I'm not kidding, I think that would look really good in this. you don't always have to go ridit, just make sure the tubes have exactly the right lenghts to bend in a nice and consistent way.
If you want that Bling build, paint it Chrome; it'll be smooth and shiny.
and reflective he could use his pc as a lamp
It shall ride eternal, shiny and chrome, WITNESS ME!!
@@Skwisgar2322 that's exactly where my mind went when I read the comment.
That would take up too much ram
@@jacobm2625 What you did there...I see it..
My 909 also blocked off the air for the front rads, and I really wanted to put a 360 rad there, so I used a drill press to drill out holes for 3 120mm holes and was able to open the case up for much better air flow. I then used an MNPCTECH 360mm fan grille up front for a cleaner look. If you need some pictures for reference feel free to reach out.
I'm glad you stuck with SLI. It IS literally JUST an enthusiast thing. An enthusiast with an unlimited budget thing.... While I don't think I'd be buying another card any time soon, it's still something special seeing those two cards in there.
personally I would rather he vertical mount the video cards to show off the blocks.
@@nicodemus7784 Some cases allow you to mount one card horizontally and the 2nd one vertically. Those builds look sick IMO.
it always just seems like such a waste when the block is clear and you cant see the machining.
NVLink SLI is great, I curently have 2 RTX 2080s Super NVLinked + 9900K, or I should say SLI on a budget, lol.
@@Patrick73787 "budget". As much as the Ti is better, is it $500 better? ($1000 for two?)
Tack Cloth. I worked with high end photographic equipment for a while. It's all flat black inside. You touch it, your skin leaves a trace. The only way to clean it is with a tack cloth. Essentially gauze cloth with wax. You can find them in the painting section of any home improvement store.
Why don't you build a custom water cooled Desk-PC? If you really want something extreme.
i feel like everyone would just say he's ripping off Linus forever if he did that
@@AverageScrub Depends if he does something crazy like a custom case with custom loop that has rigid tubing, a reservoir and less than 12 liters... :D~~
Linus hardly was the first to have a desk pc...
Jay building in my dream case what I can't afford. You could call it envy if it wasn't for HP. 🤔 I digress you should paint it high gloss black so the rgb light can bounce from the case to the nickel and vice versa. 😁
For the love of all that is watercooling godliness .... use 5/8" tube and not 1/2"
Hell, go all out, 1".
Pay NASA to send the PC to Pluto with a very long wire for power.
Get the case soda blasted, and then powder coated. You'll have a super smooth finish, and you get a ton of color options. You can toss in metal flake or other effects into the powdercoat too. .
Jay You need to make a Warp Core Reservoir that is lighted like the warp core that pulses faster as the power draw of the processor increases.
now that sounds cool and when it throttles it could start flashing I red and screaming warp core ejection imminent.
That's gonna be a bit distracting, flashing lights always are
Can he add a sound file for the deep bass that goes with WarpCore operation?
Wait for the whole case to make a single bright white flash and vanish😂
I dont want to see skunkworks go because he was there before you announced you were quitting your job. But I understand the change and the need to move forward and I'm sure the new build will be great Jay
Spot on Star trek starship battle/Worf imitation ! Lmao :p
Awesome, That it is going to be another extreme build.
Some tips from a NAS user here, Double sided felt tape is your best friend if you want to significantly reduce noise/vibration from spinning drives, My 5 bay NAS under the tv is almost silent with the only slight noise being the 2 internal fans on the NAS itself.
I feel like Jay doesnt get enough credit for being witty on the fly but trust that I notice it.
I'm looking forward to this build. The longer you take the better the systems look anyways. Takes time to do things right.
17:00 You can look at the design of Höllenmaschine. It's from a German Pc Magazine (PC-WELT). They build a Pc every year that's completely overkill. This year's Pc is called HMX2.
The "dusted" anodize is probably acid etched anodize to hide cosmetic blemishes from the stamping process. Having them stripped then bright dip colored anodized in the secondary color would be really cool. Look for a place that anodizes bicycle rims, they usually do a wide array of colors with organic dyes.
Yes!! I've been wanting to build in this case the moment I saw it pop up. Just cant justify the costs right currently! But cant want to see it finished!!!!!
If you're going to paint the inside of the case and do other modifications, see if you can't find someone with a CNC mill and have them cut holes in those back plates for the RGB and fan connectors!
I would do a glow in the dark interior paint accent with polished nickel and uv led strips; and thermochromic paint on the exterior top and front panels
I think I need to see a build, if not this one, where you use more than one 400mm rad (2x200mm). PS - I really do not understand most of these large cases not supporting 200m fans and rads. Yes, they are niche - but so are large and/or wide cases, so support more setups, damn it. It's like Samsung releasing a niche phone like the Galaxy Note without a headphone jack.
I know only Phobya makes 2x200mm rads (for PC use), but that's fine. Now if only there were more cases that directly supported something like that.
Another great video. Looking forward to seeing the completed build, Jay.
p.s. That Picard/Riker shirt is amazing!
A black and nickel plated (silver) would look cool and classy as you want. I'd go with silver metal piping to complete the look and leave only the reservoir transparent.
If Skunkworks need a place for rest till the end of his days... my home is open for that !!!
double stack rads at the top. fan - rad - fan - rad - fan... like the noctua tower of water cooling. you have so much room between the rad and motherboard it should fit.
When you make a plate for the bottom, make it nickel... so then it looks like one of those gpu's! and that way you can also see the fluid :)
Also jay if you could i would make it right below the lowest gpu and hide all your lower wiring that would clean up the case some too
No rush to build it. Heck yeah I look forward to like 10 parts to this build.
Jay: *retires Skunkworks*
Everyone else: *presses F to pay respects*
....and fail
It looks like you could run the cables for the blocked off graphics card pins between the dual 8-pin power connections, if you take off the water block and connect them first.
You wanna bling that PC then use black chrome. Nice case and component choices. What are you going to do with skunkworks?
Take advantage of the all aluminum front, get something cool cut into it... It'd open up more air flow in addition to the design aspects... Additionally, you should rename it, go for something boat related, which should also be included in the design on the front.
This build needs a 3950X when it comes out and you know it Jay
Lime green, black and nickel plating! Beautiful color combinations.
You should go with a 3900x and upgrade to the 3950x when it comes out! Then you get all the PCI-E 4 goodness!
Isn't 3900X already in his AMD build?
@@budgetbajur Yes but I from the "leaks" the 3950x looks to give the 9980XE a run for it's money. Plus it has PCI-E 4.0 and the possibility of a 7+nm 16 core chip next year fitting on the AM4 platform. Plus less power draw and money. So... I think that it would be the go to choice for an insane home PC.
Something to think about: A custom rigid 4 x 8 pin bridge in front of the cards that could also route to those headers at the bottom with no cables visible.
What about the phantek case for water-cooling madness you showed a few days ago? Kind of disappointed you picked in win. But it is YOUR PC.
Sure, throw in a Nickelback plate. Didn't know you were a fan. ;-)
Those are sold out on QFC home shopping. Would have to eBay that sort of thing, and they can get spendy. They are "collectable" after all.
How the hell we'd wind up like this, and why weren't we able to see the sign that we missed and try to turn the tables.
He first has to eat his dinner off it.
For a front radiator: Why put fans on it at all? Radiant heat and/or airflow from exhaust fans pulling air through it.
first frame -> thumbs up, just for the shirt :D
Possible theme suggestions for this build --- Do an automotive look to match one of your vehicles or do a tribute build in memory of your father with the military colors/logos.
ASUS has nice SLI bridges. The fans rpm should ramp up according to water temperature and not cpu or gpu temp imo. A distribution block would look nice to clean up the loop and cover the empty space on the right of the motherboard. Bykski have nice ones , i am using one in my tou 2.0. , problem is they are usually made specifically for each case model although with minor tweaks they should probably fit.
Cpu and GPU temp still move on a custom loop regardless of water temp. A GPU can jump 10 degrees very quickly once load is applied so it's good to get the fans already working a touch harder as soon as the workload starts. Leaving the fans on low just allows the water to get warm before doing anything.
@@lunchie80 I understand and you have a point but watercooling for me besides being a passion is also about quietness. For this reason i always buy full towers and put at least 2 360 rads. I then usually have fan curves with 800 rpm with water until 30 c and ramping to 1500 rpm when above 40 c. My ambient at the moment is 26c and water never goes above 44c. I rather have a progressive curve/noise than hearing excessive noise everytime cpu or gpu usage is 70 pct as this can sometimes be for a short period of time only and sudden variations in noise are annoying . In this behemoth of a case Jay clearly has enough rad capacity so imo he should use water temp to trigger fan rpm. Cheers
Change water blocks to something you can use the RGB/Fan headers, if you're spending so much time making it perfect, find a block that suits your needs.
given the publicty you give EK why not ask them to send you two new remodeled blocks
You could bifurcate the loop if you had higher diameter fittings and tubing going into and out of the rad, then splitting into standard diameter for the blocks and recombining before going back to the rad. Might also need a non standard pump.
Jay...please switch over to AMD and just plan on using the 3950X when it comes out
Amd sucks!
@@madafact2784 You're handicapped
@@madafact2784 have you been living under a rock for the past 3 years?
First off amd bought out ati years ago. Ati owned arm processors that are being used in cell phones. They said what are we going to do with that, 2nd there driver support is garbage n 3rd they cant even make a gpu to compete with the 2080ti n just an i5 9th gen beats most the ryzen lineup. Learn ur history about amd and why they will never keep up!
Don't feed the trolls, yeah amd is still catching up but there's a reason every Ryzen green gets recommended more and more every gen. Also as for the graphics, Nvidia def has amd beat at the high end, and prob will for a while but mood and low range, i.e. where most people shop, AMD is comparable at worst and better at best
If you're using mechanical drives for storage, put them in a NAS. Keep the systems that you use on a regular basis as SSD only.
Jay, maybe you should have delayed this build a bit due to 32 core TR coming soon?
The cool thing about amd... you don't need a new 3 to 500 board every 6 months with yet another new socket
Make the bottom cover plate with acrylic and have it light up with RGB and start the daisy chain from that location instead.
Why didin't you use the Phanteks Enthoo Luxe 2 you were so stoked about?
Galaxy S7 because they sent him this and he thought it looked good enough for his setup
Cause its Not fitting much/the advertised stuff😪
This case has enough for 2 360 rads the luxe2 only 1. It isn't quite capable of the builds this one can achieve.
@@mistrsynistr7644 Didnt' the Luxe2 have room for 3 or 4 360 rads?
@@patrickshelley09 kinda, you can squeeze one one the back panel and a 240 on the bottom if you really tried, along with the 360 top and front. They pretty much added about an inch on the back and cut out a fan grill on the back panel. Not too much of a size difference between the pro m and luxe 2 though.
Dayum.... Nigga doing good now a days... New house, new studio, 6 figure camaro, $1,000 case for personal use.... Nice bro
@JayzTwoCents
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We all know you're going to water cool this beast because that's what you do, but it would be great to see a full-on SLI build that keeps temperatures reasonable with just air. Can't anyone do that?
Jay makes a video about the death of dual GPU systems. A month later, he makes a video about his new dual GPU system.....
ETA - at least he recognizes his insanity
I was thinking the same thing. Is there any point at all to dual gpu's other than swinging your epeen? nothing uses 2 does it ?
I don't remember if the EK GPU block is glass or water, but either way since the part at the end is solid, you should be able to drill through it to reach the RBG and fan headers on the video cards. You'll have to detach the ends and re-attach the wires to the plug once it's passed through but it's still possible.
Gotta take off a panel to get to the back USB plugs?... I'm out!
nickel plate the sli bridge, nickel plate as much as u can, mod the front pannel for better airflow so u can put the fans right next to it to fit the front rad.....looks like a lot of fun thou!!!!
Shoulda waited for the 3950x :(
or Threadripper 3000 series
"Ain't nobody needs 28 cores and 56 threads"
*uses 64-core Threadripper*
I'm a hardcore Ryzen fan but for something like like this where he's looking for just straight up gaming performance, Intel is still a smidge better. In a build like this where price really doesn't matter he'd take the CPU that's 2x the price even for 3-4% performance increase
Supermicro H11DSi-NT. 128 cores, 256 threads, 2 TB ram. Go big or go home.
@@duckrutt That's the most useless shit I've ever seen for a consumer to buy
It's "black", Jay also mentioned "satin" and "gunmetal gray".. while you're at it.. just add a tapered red stripe and you'll have the "A-Team" Van / PC Case.
u should use alphacool helix reservoirs and make it look like the resident evil breifcase that had the virus/anti virus :P
Definitely think a custom reservoir would look fantastic in that case. I've had an idea of a waterfall or weir with splash pool look which would work really well in that case as you could remove one of the drive cages, for ages. Must be a way to do it so that it doesn't introduce lots of air into the system.
You should sign BeQuiet screwdrivers and give them away.
Custom (LARGE) distribution plate that integrates the double pump array sounds like fun.
I'm not loving that case. Sure it's rare (And expensive)... but looks gimmicky to me. Skunkworks had class, this case just doesn't. IMHO
Why not just build in a server chassis, have it in a short rack and use said rack as part of your desk? That's what I did and it works amazing. I have so much more room on my desk and there was enough space in the rack to throw together a small NAS to put in with my PC so I have dedicated mass storage for my home office
Ooow. I was looking forward to RYZEN in skunkworks. Disappointed ☹️
With the IPC improvement of zen 2, you'd think that he'd wait until threadripper with zen 2 came out since it would most likely be dominating on the hedt platform. Also the fact that he has pci-e Gen 4 storage, amd currently is the only providing support for Gen 4.
It's not hard to change later. I'm sure gear will be supplied from vendors. It's a few hard lines and a new waterblock otherwise(probably also given to him)
Now he can make multiple videos off one build...
@@mattnordsell9760 Maybe he already has the chip. PCIE-4 is just a waste of money at this point.
You could make the bottom blanking plate titanium coated so it reflective and car man cave style but doesn't take away from the nickel on the gpus as in the same orientation and you could might be able to just remove a drive case to allow the pass through so you don't have to drill the case
What if he
Builds an absolute monster of a machine
Goes on to play Minecraft with Ray Tracing on
Or play Minesweeper in 8k.
@@CheesyMcBeard with Ray tracing on
We’ve seen wrapped cars. But what about wrapped pc chassis? I would recommend a Damascus steel wrap (if the wrap would be able to take ~90- 120 f) should be possible since sun does beat quite hard on car wraps and this is obviously a water cooled low temp build.
IMO, this really needs a 28core, 56 thread cpu. ;-)