DRZ400 Fanboy Rides an XR400
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ค. 2017
- ColoradoDualSport a known DRZ400S fanboy rides an XR400R for the first time. This could very well be the first time CDS has ever been on a decent dirt bike. Both CDS and Hermit give observations and fist impressions of the XR400 and how it compares to the DRZ400.
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The XR400 is the God of dirt bikes. Anyone who's ever ridden one cannot disagree.
It's pretty sweet.
That is true I own one myself
I rode one with my cousin that had a pumper carb exhaust and crf suspension, it was great. I also rode his xr650r with the same mods it was nuts
Evans Automotive and there’s not a bike made that will do it for longer either. I’m trying to find an 85’ XR350 to fix up and put some hot parts on. Cam,pipe,carb,etc, CR suspension. Oh yeh ,all in. Big oil cooler, she’s gonna be a beast.
I’ve owned my XR400R3 or over 16 years now as I bought it from new. My XR has electric start, Mikuni pumper carb, revmax cdi, SRC or brace, IMS wide pegs, 1” bar risers on 7/8 renthals, multiplo handguards, rear rack, hard wired motopressor digital pump, enduristan tail pack, fender pack, it’s fully loaded & I absolutely love it 😍
How'd you get electric start on your xr?
@@legenderekonwheelsthere is a company in US that sells them. Pretty pricey but worth every penny. Just search internet ❤
DRZ400 (which I own) is really good on trails and smoother on the highway. But if you just wanna have hooliganish amounts of fun on trails, then the XR400 is the obvious choice. The front wheel comes up much easier because there are no radiators weighing down the front of the bike, so popping wheelies to get over logs and other obstacles is a cinch. Also I find it that the back tire is more prone to sliding around corners, which makes it a ton of fun to whip around.
The xr400 vs drz400 video never happened :(
Thanks for vids Hermit, just got back into bikes and have bought a pretty tidy 2004 XR400R and getting a Mikuni pumper put on it as didn't like it's flat spot with standard carby as opened throttle although overall power wasn't bad.
Looking forward to some fun on it. My last bike was a old 1986 Yamaha TT600 which was great fun, love the old thumpers.
Cheers again to you and your friends, commentary is good fun and looks like you got some nice riding where you live.
I’ve bought and sold many new bikes ( mostly ktm’s ) but I will never let my plated 03 xr400r go it’s been so reliable and smooth I’ve even taken it on motocross tracks and I held my own pretty well
Dang, I am loving this XR400 project! You just continually tempt me to go out and try to do something like this.
+Jacob Shepard That's what I'm here for.
Nice video! I wish we could still do dual sport conversions here in CA. It would open up so many relatively cheap options to buy and test awesome dirt bikes of the past.
Yeah, that's the down side to living places where they keep outlawing freedom.
DRZ 's suck! I have a crap load of money in mine and would trade it in a heartbeat to get my old 96 XR600 back. I use to think it was so heavy at its 300 lbs but just getting rid of stock exhaust you loose 20lbs. And you want a kick starter. WTF is with everyone needing a electric start? Been kick starting bikes for 50 years, it's not a big deal.
Pretty much preaching to the choir. DRZ is 310lbs and XR600 is 350ish. I like lighter bikes, but I want to try an XR650 and see if it wins me over.
@@HermitDaVlogI know this video is 6 years old and nobody will ever see this comment, but I have a street legal XR650R in Golden you're welcome to any time
If you haven't you must put a 440 kit on the XR, it boosts the bottom and mid range like you can't believe, if you ride hills stock you can't pull off idle on super steep hills w 440 it will pull up any hill in 2nd gear!
Those look like fun relaxing scenic roads. Ive owned several drz400s, last one was a highly modded SM I built up. Great solid bikes. I haven’t ridden in a couple years. Just picked up a mint 2001 xr400r that looked like it was never ridden. (I’m gunna plate it) There’s some fire roads that go up a mountain maybe 8 miles from my house. Don’t care about power anymore as I’m just wanting to cruise. More concerned about how hard it will be to restart when I stop for a quick break. Both are pretty much the gold standard for reliable trail bikes though.
You guys are coming out of metberry in divide Colorado I live right down the street from that trail. It's fun out there.
Yes, a comparison is in order. The most dependable dual sports ever made. Even the XR400 was easy to plate in CA back when they came out.
Agreed.
Too bad we can't do dual sport conversions in CA anymore. I have seen it done, but it sure seems like a hassle these days and there seems to be no official answer regarding the legality.
long live the older bikes and pumper carbs! Love my '92 DR650 with TM40!
YES! Hey do you have any issue with the floats getting stuck on your TM40. It seems I have to drain the bowls and use an extra inline filter on mine or it pisses all over my shop floor. It's brand new. I'm not sure if it's flawed or if that's just how they are.
I have not had that issue but use inline filters as a matter of practice. I have heard many comments from other DR guys about using only top quality gas. Setting the pumper circuit was tricky but it seems just right now. A bit of fuel mileage was traded for the performance though :)
Thanks. I might make a video and make a conversation of it. I haven't had a carb this picky before, but I'm going to keep at it.
I have a solution for the highway problem... Find as much dirt as possible :)
Good bikes to ride as weekender trail blasters rather than larger bikes.
not even sure what to say but, Thanks for the video and Go the XR!
Thanks!
Definitely interested in hearing what you guys think of the two bikes over the next few months, should be fun to watch. I'd like to compare my XR650R to those bikes someday.
No comparison.... 650 pig for life
Nah the XR650L is the pig. The XR650R is like a backwards tardis. Big on the outside and small on the inside.
I take it that means super awesome 😎
hermit, your more than welcome to take my BRP out for a comparison
"the frame feels good"...
I was laughing pretty hard over that comment
How comfy is the seat? Because you need to bring it to St. George and let me ride it.
Jeeesh, no kidding. Look at all these fanboys in the comments that insist if you compare the XR to an E or an S with a pumper it will get blown off the trail.
It's about as comfy as the DRZ stock seat.... and you know what that means.
ColoradoDualSport have you ridden Xena to St George?
+eveRide ADV They actually made the seats wider and more comfortable back then, but it will be getting a Seat Concepts.
I would have stayed for the multi threading conversation...
You're one of the few.
Pumper carb is a must on a 4 stroke. XRs with kits and DRZs have to be the best bikes for dual sport riding for the $ FOR THE $$$
DRZ are fantastic dual sports, and supermotos. But the 400r is a true Enduro.
The answer I've found for that first gear is go faster up stuff🤣 i tried going slow up a hill and she's a lil twitchy slow in 1st gear
Thank you for reminding me... Did they ship my seat concepts seat yet.. checking...
Make sure your wide pegs have shipped too.
not trying to be a hatter or anything but for riding at those speeds does it matter if is a xr400, an gs 1200 or a yamaha dt 50cc?
Hermit,
What year is your XR400? I'm getting ready to sell off my 96 DR350SE to my son and will probably be looking for another dual sport.
BTW, when you do your review please put each bike full of fuel on a scale.
It's a 98.
Phillip Bell SELL? GIVE IT TO HIM. SMH
should have made this into an xr400 vs drz400 video since y'all never actually did one :(
I am now getting a complex, but if you are going to poke fun at me and my wife please use her real name, Mrs G as it is my sister that is Bob Z. Get it right you circus bears.
You tell him, Bob G!
What is this? Bob G can't hang?
a few videos back you mentioned something about convincing ned to buy a new bike....
beta 390rrs would be a great bike to short range dualsport/adventure ride.
I agree. It's on the short list. Probably just after a 300RR and KDX200 project.
have you looked at the swm sr300r or 500r ? the 300 sounds like a drz killer since it should be 6k new
If the XR had electric start & 6th gear it would be the ultimate dual sport IMO. Wish Yamaha would come out with a wr450r...How sweet would that be?
danodbdb what's wrong with kickstart
Electric start is a major issue for me. Yeah I'm lazy, what of it?
yeah but the cams,compression and carb are so differnt its like 5hp more then the S model stock.
I've heard rumors that Yamaha is may be putting out a WR 450 r . One can only hope !
I agree and have said that in a few videos. I think the EPA gets in the way of it ever happening. Maybe some of these smaller brands like Beta or SWM will get more traction and start to be a threat and push them into making more interesting dual sports. That's the only way I see it happening.
Do you have a make and model for the pumper carb?
I don't see the lights and mirrors on the xr400
It is a bit crazy riding 800 miles on a dual sport. That's what KLR's are for.
See, CDS. Listen to LWL he's an expert.
A true comparison would be the kickstart only drz with fcr carb. Much lighter than the xr with more power. Can get the drz under 240lbs with a couple mods and removing unneeded parts
Old post but I need to clear this up this is wrong info no way in hell your getting a drz down to 240lbs according to Suzuki website the drz400e is a porky 304 lbs wet.
The drz400s is 319lbs wet the xr400 wet weight is 277 lbs and 256 lbs dry. So it's not close you will never get the drz400e close to the xr400 unless you take the radiators off and drain the coolant.
My estart xr400 with kickstarter 4 gallon gas tank and a rear rack weighs 295lbs. So it's still lighter than a drz400e. And my xr has a pumper carb and uncorked so it's close to to the power of a 400E but it's lighter.
I love older dirt bike.
Oh me too. So many are so underrated and modern designs have more influences by things I don't care about like motocross, economies of scale and tree hugging.
Agreed.
+1 hillbilly. Newer bikes seem to be a one trick pony
Why did you get the xr?Is the wr lacking certain things your looking for?
Still have the WR, still riding it. This might answer some of your question though th-cam.com/video/ufWCpsRrddE/w-d-xo.html
Well yeah it's going to feel like the XR has more power off the bat because that's how pumper carbs are designed to feel. Put a fcr 39 on the drz and then let's get a comparison 😉
Ridden the DRZE, need to do a proper comparison, but it's not the carbs it's the weight.
Hermit DaVlog the DRZe does have a better carb but I hear it's nowhere near as good as the fcr 39 pumper carb
That thing does rip man! Does Xena roost like that when I get on her? Ps. Log Hop Champ 2017!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No. She hooks up and goes like she's suppose to.
You made that log hop look so effortless!
You could teach Jarvis a thing or two!
isn;t the xr 400 gearbox a wide ratio gearbox unlike the super close ratio drz 400 gearbox?
I don't know. I'm going to look it up because I'm a little baffled by it right now. The XR feels like a closer ratio than the other bikes for some reason.
oh right I had a xr600r and that had a wide ratio gearbox so it was perfect in the trails and wasn't revving too high on the highway which was heart for dualsporting
Please put a pumper carb on Ned's old DRZ and compare them again or get that CDS feller to put one on Xena 🤓
Sadly Need sold the yellow DRZ. I told him it was a bad move.
I rode the XR once last fall before the pumper carb in the Bike vs. Wife video, and I've ridden eveRide's DRZ with the pumper carb. I'll make a video (probably a few) going into more detail, but the pumper carb just adds throttle response. There are bigger differences in the bikes than that, weight being the biggest.
XR400 all the way
What forest is this?
I bet if CDS feller had a few drinks he would admit that your xr400 is a better dual sport than his drz( zina warrior princess)
If you really wanna giggle on the trails get a 2 stroke. Question that I ain't sure I want answered but how does CDS know how a 2x4 feels up the butt? Stay safe
Great suggestion and question. I'll work on both.
Tankerman depends how polished it is.
HAHAHA. STAY SAFE
I loved my XR400, plated, used it commute and it did very well, but just got tired of the tall seat height, 5 speed and kickstart... so I sold it a bought a girls bike. CRF230F.
+Scott Knoch There's nothing wrong with that. It's a perfectly valid life style.
You must be a short arse, the CRF230 is a great little bike, it's just ... small.
Is it true that you and cds feller are in a bunker waiting on the apocalypse?
why cant you take the xr on the highway? i ride mine all the time for long and short rides. 15/44 with 22l lank does 330km
Would 16/45 be the same as 15/44? Does 15/44 make first gear too tall for the trails?
couldnt tell you. 15/44 is good for trails still i think its the stock gearing. takes a little while to get used to going from 13/44 but just use the clutch a little if you need and its still great off road.
+1 tumblemydice I put 70000 miles on a xr400.They are as good as a drz on the road.Way better in the tuff stuff.
king troll wow right on man. would have been rebuilt over that dostance? mines done 13,000km still a baby
My bike has 15/45. Great in the dirt but pavement not so much. It will be interesting to see what gear combo the Hermit comes up with.
Dammit hermit, I actually wanted to hear what CDS said about the CPU.
CDS would say that clock speed matters not core count for single threaded applications.
ColoradoDualSport I almost messaged CDS but I figured he would be reading comments.
Yeah, but he's wrong as usual. Modern languages leverage multiple cores for parallel processing even if it's single threaded. Streams in Java 8 would be a good example of this. At least that's what I read on the bathroom wall of a bar.
Hermit DaVlog You were in a bathroom stall in a bar long enough to read that?
Actually, he's right as always. He answered the question Bob G asked, not the question Hermit made up aferwords. There was no time frame given so I defaulted to the literal. Also from personal experience with game engines yes they may be able to multi thread but the never do very well. Having two cores pinned at 100% while 14 others run 3-5% I don't consider "multi-threaded" I just consider that lazy and a check in a box for marketing.
I bet an old XR 500 R with a kit would rip on the street
i had a new drz400e in 03 and my friend had an xr400 also new. there's no comparison the drz blows it away power wise. the drz killed the xr in enduro here in aus. the fact the detuned drz400s street model is comparable say's it all.
i didn't see any xr's on my last 7000km trip through 4 states and crossing the simpson desert solo. lol. i did see dozens of other drz400e's though.
CDS shouldn't be so hard on himself, he will always look like a circus bear. Stay safe
You're right, as always.
XR650l for even more torque FTW!
Mmmm maybe XR650R. We'll see.
my stock drz400 does 95 easy on the highway.
Well, cool. Any bike can do any speed with the right gears, but if it only weighs 150lbs and has fence posts for forks its probably only a matter of time before you get yourself killed on an interstate.
I'm just saying it's capable. I don't drive like a maniac. Sometimes ya gotta speed pass stupid drivers that cut you off or don't know what turn signals are...
@@Dan-ol7ed the xr is 29hp, stock e is 39 and liquid cooled. People laugh at the drz for being old technology...the xr is even older. These guys are out of their minds..
I dont like the DRZ at any level . It's too heavy, uncomfortable . I had one, but I have a 1990 DR350s, which my opinion is a better bike for single track riding . It's lighter. My year is only a kickstart, just a little under on power, but its torque is good, plus it has a 6speed . And no radiator, and its comfortable compare to the DRZ . You think the DRZ is better than the DR, nah? I dont think so .
That is a S model DRZ. If you had a E model it wouldn't even be a comparison.
True, but it has E gearing.
the E model has like 5hp more stock. thats due to the FCR carb, more aggressive cams and higher compression. The gearing is a very small part of it.
Is this channel still active
Nawh
Make cds put his bike back to stock suspension and gearing and then compare them... Lol
His suspension is stock and his gearing is better than stock, but you're right we need to figure out some good configurations for these bikes and do more comparison.
Funny ego battle begins at 10:21
the 400 is just a little trail bike...the bike you want is the xr650l it weighs the same and has more power everywhere
Um... actually the 650L is almost 100lbs more and the 650R beats it in every respect if you live in a state that lets you convert bikes to street legal.
all talks about riding , didnt mention about engines?
I've had more time to tune and ride but I'm still sorting out what I think of that. With such a weight difference it's hard to comment on the engines specifically because you can't tell how much is power vs power/weight, but I do like the feel of the XR more. It's not as smooth or tractable, it's it is more exciting, especially off the low end.
the xr are more lasting ?
DRZ = Daily Repair Zone lol
Wee...
YOU CALL THAT RIDING?
Why doesn't everyone just quit arguing and buy a KTM.
Yeah, they're only $9,000 more than what I paid for the XR.
Hermit DaVlog yeah but you only need one.
lifewithlurch until it breaks
co8539 it hasn't broken hauling my fat ass around yet.
...'yet'
WHAT A BUNCH OF SHIT. YOU ALL WATCH THESE LOSERS?