@@d.o.d724 the video is self titled "how to rip off the dealership - bastard negotiating tactics" it's very clearly calling you a bastard if you do this, how much more obvious could it be?
@@d.o.d724 nope because the shop he was in isn't a dealership You might notice those tactics don't work if you don't have a sales rep that's carefully trying to rip you off, it's all about playing their own greed against them
KENCO! I live on Vancouver Island and can call Kenco my local motorcycle shop. Ken's kindness when I was 18 and just bought my first used shitty motorbike are why I am still riding today at 36. They put 2 hours of labour into fixing many issues and just charged me for parts, which allowed me to keep riding and find my love for motorcycling. An absolute gem of a business. I wish everyone was as fortunate and had a mom-and-pop store like this in their area. Ken and company, thanks for everything you do and FortNine for featuring this great business!
And I thought old time motorcycle shops were a thing of the past. I live 1200 km away, but I visit the Island a couple times a year, and I'm going to Kenco next time!
What the fuck did I just watch, in the best way. My goodness gracious. WHY. HOW..... I mean, my god. I've been a filmmaker for 15 years now, won awards at Venice, Cannes, etc, paid the bills by making short docs for brands, and my god. I'm over here taking notes - thanks for this brand new breath of fresh air, Ryan, sincerely. You didn't have to put this much thought in, and you know it, but you did it anyway. Hats off.
Wonderful transition from the aggressive tactics required to avoid getting ripped off, to a reminder of days fading where those type of conversations weren’t needed so much. Also: that deer was clear paid.
Not even a good paid actor, the deer didn't move until they were in frame. Basically did the equivelant of starting to walk once the camera started rolling to make it seem like they were already walking, instead of walking before the camera reached them.
And thats why he's still there after all these years. No doubt flashier and bigger dealerships have come to the area over time - but they've all eventually faded away because they're missing the kinda magic that Ken has in his shop.
It was a dirty trick to get me rubbing my hands as I learn how to game a skanky dealership - and then to flip the script. Now I'm forced to confront my own greed as I listen to a man talk about the motorcycles that he loves, and of the family business that brings him a modest living. Thank you, I needed that.
Big name dealers are full of the most despicable people on earth who will actively push a poor, financially illiterate family into debt via manipulation and persuasion knowing full well what they are doing, do not feel bad about it, in my years working for a large unnamed car dealership I encountered by far the least intelligent, evil people i’ve ever met, the way they talk about the customers is absolutely disgusting and all of them are like this. Support smaller ones like the one in the video instead! they need the business.
Kenco is in my Dad's neighborhood. I live 1500 km away. In mid September 2024, I rode down for a visit, and came to meet Ken. He was very modest and a bit surprised when I said I recognized him from this video. Great shop. The people are nicer than they appear in this video. I bought a bunch of stuff, even a t-shirt with Ken on it. Kenco is not a "boutique" with premium prices. It's an honest to goodness bike shop with more than fair prices. They don't sell lawnmowers, because they are a bike shop, but also, in Sooke, there are a lot of deer that love to graze lawns. If you're thinking of checking the place out, it's a scenic and twisty ride to get there. Highly recommended!
Are you kidding me with that lovely piano, long zoom-out while they’re talking, outside, outside, outside the weathered-but-proud shop, voices fade, birds chirp, and suddenly there’s a doe in frame that looks over, before returning to its grass munching, while the birds keep chirping and the piano gently concludes … cue black screen and logo !?!? What an epic shot !! ☮️⭐️❤️
Really fantastic for sure. I think the ending has a very clever edit and is actually in reverse though. Sometimes about how the camera movement is quite awkward, and it makes more sense that the deer was eating and stopped to look over at the camera, which then pans away and approaches the shop, rather than the cameraman being able to walk backwards while filming forwards and trying to end up at the perfect spot to pan over without scaring a deer.. in any case it was magical, even if it is movie-magic.
Yeah ! the video was already an amazing one before this last crazy travelling shot with such an unexpected end !!! Man, the ending clearly has some Myiazaki mood, congratulations !!!
I’m 41 years old and grew up just down the road from Ken , I had a flat tire on my Honda z50 when I was 7 I rode my peddle bike down there and grabbed a tube from Ken I think it was 8$ at the time he gave it to me for 5. My father went to school with Ken grew up in the same town. He’s one hell of a guy and I still by all my parts there to this day. Great video.
@@adriandaw3451I guess you must be serious, because he left out one letter, in a long paragraph. Only the word 'buy' , which appeared as 'by'. Seems like a typo. All the rest is perfect. people need to get used to the idea that spelling, grammar, etc are not important in digital media: texting, social media, email. It's unnecessary if you can get the meaning.
What I learned from this vid: Rip off the dealerships by not giving them your business, but instead giving it to people like Ken. As someone raised by a hot rodder in Morristown, TN, I cherish memories of going to Jerry's Hot Rod Shop as a kid and my dad having similar conversations with the owner and fellow clientele. This video brought tears to my eyes. I'm only 25 but this world feels so different now Edit: I haven't cried this much in awhile, and I needed it. Thank you Ryan.
Sure, but how do you FIND Ken? I always want to go local, I always want to support the third generation suit maker, I always want the hardwood from the forest down the road, but finding the sellers is a pain in the neck and ass and balls and teeth.
Small towns die by leaking their economies to big businesses that come in. Shop local whenever you can, so the money that moves around stays within your community!
The heart and artistic level of these FortNine videos never ceases to impress. We had a lot of those small dealerships around here in Massachusetts, years ago. As an early teen in 1972, I bought a brand Yamaha LT2 from Stanley's Motor Sales. It was just a small brick building crammed with motorcycles and motorcycle stuff, Stanley was the only salesman, and yes, guys did go to those dealerships and just hang out. Life just seemed better then. Today everything has to be "maximized"; maximize profits, maximize views. The only thing getting minimized is humanity. Dammit, now I'm gonna be philosophical all day.
@@2bfrank657 It's a good example of something that sounds awful on paper - "sarcastic youtuber gives hardball sales tips, advertises sunglasses, insert pathos here" - and yet, by gum, I felt myself getting emotional at the end there.
Only Ryan F9 can pull off being a total bastard, a sterling gentleman, and a master educator; evolving (yet again) the paradigms of motorcycling in a mere 10 minutes. Absolute masterclass in perpetual legendarianism. Thank you Fortnine.
I bought my first ever motorcycle at Kenco, a Royal Enfield Himalayan. It’s always a real pleasure to stop by and have a chat with Ken. There are not much shop like this nowadays.
I really like how they were in an interview and a friend came up and they just wave during the talk. It just shows how real truthful this interview is.
It's great that you showed the human side of the dealerships. We can't forget that at the end of the day, they're just people trying to live of their passion
Dealers like these are just far and few between these days. The mega superstore dealers stomp them out. You then sit at the mercy of a dealer that has an owner who just wants a bigger boat or another house.
@@Accost2u This 100%. The key is identifying when to be an asshole and when to say "You know what, imma just buy this one for the number it says on the label". We all know that the number of bikes you want is the number you have +1. So why not rip off you local beeg bike dealership AND take one off that customizer next town.
@@Accost2u like every business, restaurants, grocery stores, shoe stores, EVERY business is 99% big business with CEOs, Bord members, and shareholders that want as much profit as possible and no matter what they made last year they want more this year and every year.
My God. I subscribed to the channel, and I don't even have a bike, nor will I be buying one anytime soon. The emotion and intelligence are oozing at every single moment. This is passion right here. What a treat this was, from begining to end. Heartfelt bravo.
This has to be one of your best videos , my Dad owned a dealership for 40 years with his two brothers. They build it from nothing and he worked 6 days a week for forty years. I remember all the ups and downs, and there were plenty of downs. The boys worked their guts out to provide the best service they could to their customers, only to be screwed over again and again by the manufacturers. Thanks for shedding a light on family owned dealers guys
I've known Ken for years. Living in Victoria. He's been part , no! A huge part of the motorcycling community in so many ways. Many riders call Kenco motorcycles their place. And no!! The deer is not paid, but part of the deal as it's been fed and taken care of by the family. Let's not forget the chickens. I'd say without a doubt that Kenco has always been a destination. A place where like Ken says you're welcome to come to shoot shit and have coffee, ask advice etc. and buy stuff with amazing service! Ken is a great guy and an awesome rider as well. And let's not forget his wife who is also a huge part of why Kenco has been with us for so long.. Awesome dealer. There's a certain large island motorcycle company (whoops! It's their name) that could learn EVERYTHING from Ken. Thank you Ken for all you're doing. Iceman!!
The deer did it for me. I wonder if that was planned or it just happened to be there on one of the takes and the cam op went "welp this better be the final take I guess"
Anybody else distantly looking out their window with welled up eyes at the end of this? I came here for motorcycle content and ended up questioning life. WTF? Bro you're a genius. Good job F9 team.
omg yes! i am so glad i'm not the only one lol. very good reminder to support your local shops, they'll be there for you when you're in a bind - unlike the mega retailers!
Yes! As it faded out I found myself murmuring “fuuuuck Ryan that hurts”. Such a great video. And reminds me why I miss BCM Ducati of New Hampshire so badly. Run by an old racer and his spouse, with amazing techs he empowered to do the right thing by customers… it was a great place to just drop by socially even when you didn’t need that inevitable Ducati warranty work. :) Bruce and Susie retired a couple decades back, sold it to some guy who ran it into the ground. :(
Came for the bastard negotiating tactics even though I don’t plan on getting rid of my current motorcycle any time soon, and stayed for the unexpected warm conversation with a family business owner even though I’m not even anywhere near enough to make a ride out to buy anything. I even watched and listened to the end. Such is the magic of Ryan F9.
It’s shown at the start, but you don’t realize its value till the end. The dealer is Kenco Motorcycles in Sooke BC (near Victoria). Never been there, but this garlicky man found his way into my heart.
WTF just happened!? I watch a video about how to get a good deal on a motorcycle and now I am actually crying?! Two guys sitting in a shop chatting bikes. Emotional heft on the end of that one. Standing ovation, truly.
Dude, this wasn’t just educational, it showed that you get it with small business owners and that personalized experience. There is so much to learn from these businesses. I’ll forever be a fan of Fort-nine. God bless!
Sadly enough, I used to have one of those shops near me. He was the owner, the salesman, the mechanic, the everything. He had a parts man that worked the counter and answered the phone. He worked on everything motorcycle for over 40 years. He passed away, shop closed, the building got sold. Time waits for no one. It seems like those were better days.
This dealer is awesome. Went out of their way to help me fix my bike as a traveller. Mechanic loaned me some tools so I could repair in the parking lot, along with some zip ties and wiring connectors. Go give them business, they deserve it.
Beautiful presentation. Got me choked up at the end. Why does the world feel so high anxiety and narcissistic??? The lack of the respect for a human touch. Very well done.
I got directed to this video from a friend, and I gotta give you exactly one compliment that I don't think anyone else has said. Your approach with the sponsor is FUCKING. FLAWLESS. Short, sweet, to the POINT! Doesn't interrupt the video, flows like a charm, and doesn't say 100 things I didn't wanna hear. If everyone did sponsorships with this much grace and brevity, I would never ever skip sponsorship ads. Absolutely masterful work. Good video overall, too!
I didn't even notice the sponsorship, are you talking about the glasses or the shop itself? Because I'm not sure if they were sponsored by the shop, they'd have to disclose it if otherwise
Born and raised on Vancouver Island (Sooke). Ken has been a staple in everything motorcycles for years. This man has done more for the motorcycling community than anyone on island. Huge shout out to Ken and Kenco!! 💯
Sure you have nice cameras, great editing, a budget to blow... But you guys sure can tell a compelling story. Your ability to tell an amazing story is why we all stay
The best video you've done by far. I could listen to your chat with Ken for hours. What a bloke. We need more bike shops like that in the UK. Family owned and full to the brim with random bike stuff.
For those that feel but don’t truly understand this gentleman’s perspective. I run a hydraulic repair shop that my Grandpa started in 1935, we have giant companies call on our customers weekly, we can’t keep all our prices dirt low to compete, but we have a large inventory and a lot of knowledge that gives us enough of an edge to stay in business. Then there’s the internet where most consumers become engineers, once that fails, they come back to us to figure out what went wrong. Sadly, as there’s not a 4th generation willing to continue on, I’m now forced to face the final door closer in the next few years. I saw the look in his eyes when explaining how he’s done it for so long, it brought me to tears as I know what he feels. I pray they are able to keep fighting for years to come, as fighting giant companies is becoming harder every single year.
Waited too long to train the younger generation by at least 20 years... I've come thru many shops and seen this. old heads complaining how they won't be around much longer and that the whole business is at an end. Because in the 90s it was good money and they wanted more money in their pockets so less employees the better turning away potentially good young learners. Then 2008 happened and old dudes retired... Now 2020 happened and old dudes retired... Not enough around to train the young ones anymore. Sounds a lot like "you made ur own bed now sleep in it" kind of deal..
We've had suppliers call ours and customers call our suppliers. Thankfully the mix of good suppliers and customers means most have been headed off and a boss who's not afraid to call out either of the others means we're all good. Like the other reply our oldies are leaving and taking the knowledge with them ( that to be honest they weren't always willing to share with non time served "proper" engineers ) but it's near impossible to find anyone under 30 with the brains to do it and the will to stick around. We've got a couple of good young uns that look like they'll stick and us in the middle with knowledge and experience. Even as a small business on the edge of the country we have a lot of reach and enough going on to be well in the top half dozen of our suppliers customers, and their one, if not the, top player. Who's your giants Albert? And don't keep your prices low, we're keen but we won't do it unless it's worth it, but we're good at what we do, do it right and we're here. Our UK based giants don't bother much down here, or if they do they muff it up and we get to fix it.
I'm working in a printing shop, running big presses. I'm 49, and out of 8 press operators, I'm the youngest one. New generation just don't feel like putting in hard work anymore. They want instant results and high pay. It takes 3 to 5 years to become a press operator.
@@Andriig75 nobody is asking for instant results. Also define "high pay" because maybe you just mean people don't want to work for federal minimum wage for four fucking years when rent for a one bedroom is 1,600 a month... Not including your car payments and food and clothing cost... Wake up to reality my dude.
This is the kind of video that millions of riders want to see. Sitting down with local dealers, showcasing the heart of the community, all in a slickly produced, easy to watch package. Always loved this channel for its charm, but this kind of work is a genuine credit to what we all love. Thank you!
These are short art films, not just youtube videos. I like supporting my local non corporate businesses. Because it's not just a business, it's a community. What a way to make that point!
That cinematic pan out is a walk we all seem to do. We grow away from the honest conversation about life with strangers and make effort to isolate more now then ever. We observe from afar, so still to avoid connection even a deer is unthreatened by our presence, because we are barely even here anymore. Find more mom and pop shops. Groceries, clothing, automotive, anything you can get at big box and online you should try to get from real people. Keep it alive so you can feel alive. ❤
I get that so much. I live out in the burbs, and the only family shop around is the fruit and veg place, meanwhile because the big shops abandoned the city centre for the shopping centres there are plenty of family run shops there now. It’s incredible working in a place as big as the city but the Italian deli owner knows you by name. I wanna live in the city but $$$…
This is exactly the feeling more people should have about the world around them, kind, compassionate and honest. I hope to somehow make it to Kens shop to buy my first bike. It's a bit away from Kansas but definitely after this winter. Passionate vid
This is such a beautiful video and is much needed for the world today. Thank you, Team Fortnine. Not everything is about clever tricks to get a deal at the expense of hurting someone's business, and businesses like these definitely need our support instead. Thank you for doing your part.
Its 1106 miles to this dealership. I've got a full tank of gas, a half pack of smokes, its the weekend,.... and I could use a new pair of sunglasses (and maybe a rear sprocket.) I feel like I should hit the road for an impromptu ride.
Truly. He has everything wrapped up in to these short videos, and it’s hard to ‘keep up’. I can’t explain it! He’s a freaking genius..... I’ll go as far as a candidate for motorcycle hall of fame.
I am yet to see a marketeer that is not only extremely good at his job, but acutually understands that it is not (only) about numbers, but that there are living and breathing people on the other side who want to be dealt with as such. You incorporate a 30 seconds long advertisement into a 10 minutes long video and nobody has the urge to speed forward through it, because you make it so unobtrusive. That is art in my book.
Ken is the man, been going to his shop for over thirty two years now. Always greets you with a smile. helps you out. gives you the best price he can. Thanks for all the good conversations and good times Ken and I know many more to come! Rubber side down!
Been going to Kenco for 33+ years. They've become like family, they really care. Just worked their magic on my new bike. Most trusted motorcycle shop ever.
Not a biker. Probably will never be a biker. But the shot from 8:21 might be the best shot ever I've seen in a TH-cam video. That's like AAA/Hollywood-type stuff. What the hell. I don't care if it's AI or reframed or backwards, that's gold right there.
This is absolute genius film-making! The script is off the wall. So subversive that I needed multiple viewings to catch all the subtleties. It is an extraordinary ode to mom&pop dealership owners and their passion for motorcycling. I would buy from Ken if I weren't on the other side of the continent. The cinematography, the very long shots, editing, and script are second to none. Low-cost effects using lighting and focus changes fit perfectly with Ryan's brisk, but smooth delivery. The transition at 3:18 with the creaking sound effect is hilarious. The interview with Ken is great and informative for us, plebes. The end shot with the deer, accompanied by that melancholic music, leaves one emotional and thinking about the end of an era, corporations and their greed. I am thankful Ryan and his team spoil us from time to time with superb films on a topic I am passioned for.
He evokes laughter, wow’s us with nerdly bike physics and stunt riding, and now he brings a tear to the eye. A master’s greatest masterpiece yet. (honourable mention out to the guy in the deer suit. Rocked it!!)
Yeah but most likely you are not going to negotiate like a bastard with your mom and pop dealer. (I know you were joking). I negotiate like a bastard for cars but not with my local motorcycle dealership (sturgess Cycle in Hamilton), they are good guys. Bigger motorcycle dealerships, I might be tempted though.
I own a bicycle shop and it's not easy but beautiful and this video just did something to my heart and soul that I can't put into words but it will stay with me for a very, very long time. Thank you!
Ma and pa dealers/service shops are the best. They treat you well because their livelihood depends on it, and I will ALWAYS be more than happy to support people like that. Also that thing about newer and more corporate dealers not stocking parts is real. But my local had parts for my 1979 Z50R!!!!!!! Fully expected dude to walk into the back and bang some pots and pans around then say sorry, nothing. But he dug around and found me some brake parts. Thank you Bob, absolute legend.
Damn! You NAILED it! Ryan is the BEST indie on TH-cam. I keep wondering why a big time producer hasn't hired him yet. But every episode is a near perfectly crafted story.
This hits me in the feels. I bought my first motorcycle from a mom and pop shop in Vegas that’s since closed, due to the bigger mainstream shops stomping them out. They never upsold, made an offer that kept them afloat; and that was it. Such a shame those small shops are closing down.
I was really pissed at first when the video set up to exploit Kenco. This shop is riding history. Always honest, always upfront. Free diagnostic advice, straight pricing.... the best. Ryan pulled it around to teach us why we should support rather than exploit these gems of integrity. How to exploit the exploiters backed by profit focused corporations was his first lesson. Why we should bite the bullet and pay a little more to support the heartwood was the second lesson. Harpers Moto is a Guzzi vendor with 'Kenco' integrity. I hope the Nakusp BC Laverda dealer, or his son, is still going..... Please post the name/url of other small/honest specialty businesses that keep our passion viable. Thanks Ryan.
If you're in the Essex kent area of Ontario, Robinson motorcycles has been around since 1958. Great Harley shop. Also shout out to Hudson Honda in Tilbury. They're reasonably priced and both will work on older models
@adamlanglois563 Robinson Motorcycle in Wheatley Ontario. Rode my new to me1980 Kawasaki 440ltd there when I was 17 years old. In February 1983. Oogled the GPZ750 with the digital gas gauge. And spent hours looking at leather gloves, boots, and jackets. Met Larry Robinson, who gave me a very big discount on gloves, a leather jacket, boots, and a windshield before I froze solid. They always treated me like a valued customer. And I kept going back. They sponsored local racers and gave to the community. When I moved to Toronto for work, I noticed that my coworkers' custom Harley had a Robison Motorcycle license plate frame. Which started the conversation of iconic dealerships. Thanks for your comment, you brought back 100's of good memories. Let the good times roll!
Never seen one of your videos before. Man, this takes a 180 degree turn at 5:36. From snarky useful comedy to sweet promotion of supporting local and props to perseverance....and garlic...and rusted old trucks...and Bambi.
As someone who owned a bike shop for a few years, this one brought a tear to my eye. Wish I could give Ken a big ole hug. It's tough, but he's living the dream. Thanks for this video!
It goes both ways. I've been on the receiving end of bastard dealerships as a green customer. Learned my lessons over the years... and paid for them. COVID era was especially nasty... everyone was price-gouging like it's hunting season.
Thanks for doing this Ryan! The big manufacturers have pulled the rug out from underneath Ken on several occasions. He is exactly how he seems in this video. He means it when he says "Come for coffee. You don't even need to buy anything." Ken is a pillar of the motorcycle community on Vancouver Island. If you come to the south Island and you don't stop in to see Ken, you are missing out! We have nothing but respect for Ken and Kenco around here!
I’m 78, retired mechanic in North Carolina, would love to buy a bike from this man but I have gotten wobbly on my feet at times so had to sell my last motorcycle 2 years ago. I understand,respect and love this man and would love to go to Western Canada and pay full retail for the bike I would likely get killed on. Yea I should just that……
One of my older riding buddies who also got me into trucking had the same problem. Just couldn't hold up his bike anymore. He ended up on a trike. He loves it but says it's just not the same.
Thanks for come back. A while back looked at the Russian made Ural with side car very very cool but I really don’t need to be working on it all the time. I hope you do well……
@@southerncross4956 My granddad had an Ural when I was a kid (over 30 years ago) I enjoyed every second of riding with him. He lived in the country, lots of unpaved road, lots of fun. It used to brake often but at the same time it always felt reliable somehow
@@rostfomin Enjoyed hearing from you guys. Do all what you can do while you are physically and mentally sound. Six months ago I was king of the world with ability, knowledge and enough money to do what ever. But Five months ago both lungs got infected, 3 weeks getting over that. 30 days later massive heart attack, what a go that was. But I have to say the 25 crazy minute ride in an ambulance with Earnhardt driving and a Hell Angle looking dud trying to keep me alive in the back while shouting to the driver “ETA?ETA?” while I’m thinking man, I’m in big trouble (which I was) was interesting. The elephant standing on my chest with one leg had me hollowing at times. That ambulance was a roller coster ride latter Earnhardt told me he had to drive on the sidewalk a good bit to get to the ER. Hell Angle gave me aspirin, then nitroglycerin then he said your getting morphine now… I thought cool what will that do well my body got numb but the elegant just laughed. Anyway the ER was interesting too. I’m sorry gone on way to far….ride you bikes all you can, do well my men.
FortNine has been a favourite of mine for years, and I don't even ride motorcycles. Seen him around the community making videos many times. Down an old woodland road, riding the feet first bike down Dollarton, it is always great to see the Soul of our city in these creators. The ending of the video brought me back years to a a simpler time, and a calm summer breeze. Thank you.
That was beautiful, Ryan. I could listen to that good ol boy for hours.. My local shop is now owned by the lad that was the shop apprentice when I got my first bike. We've been friends for many years, grown up together, raised families together.. I've moved away now but I still call in when I'm back home, always a brew going and always time for a chinwag. I hope we never lose these "proper" bike shops. Motorbikes 😎
Whats F9 gonna do with Girish gets the call to go to Hollywood for his unbelievable directing and editing skills? Cause this man is taking informational motorcycle videos and turning them in to art pieces. It's truly incredible.
Beautiful piece. I always tell my wife how gut wrenching is visiting small dealerships here in France. You speak to the owners and you can see without them telling you, that they are there because they love bikes, but that it is a tough business. There eyes reflect a lot of pressure.
I have purchased many items from Ken over the years. All my riding buddies love going to Kenco.....we are very lucky to have him here. In fact I may take a ride up there to pay a visit today. :)
Mr. F9, you really need to make more of this kind of video. That interview was excellent and that last shot was probably the best cinematic scene I've seen on TH-cam
This warmed my heart so much. I lost my great grandpa recently and grouped remember having conversations with him just talking about his life. Thank you Ryan, this brought tears to my eyes.
Excellent contrast video! This made my day. I worked part-time at a mom and pop Harley shop 45 years ago. They sold used and new bikes right alongside each other on the showroom floor. Harley took their franchise because they didn't want to spend a million dollars upgrading their dealership to sell "motorclothes" and other overpriced HD badged paraphernalia.
There's not many shops like this around anymore, which is a pity. There's a similar shop in Marne, Iowa called Baxter Cycle. It's a very old school shop, no games, or tricks, just honest folks. They sell Royal Enfield, Triumph, and vintage British iron. I bought my Himalayan there last year, and the moment I stepped through the door, I felt at home. Sadly, this is a rare occasion these days. Dealerships all look alike, and feel like car dealerships. I had a friend who owned a BMW dealership, Blue Moon Cycle. BMW corporate was always on him to bring his shop inline with the appearance plan they wanted, eventually he told them to piss off. He still has the shop, and is doing quite well selling vintage motorcycles, mostly BMWs and Ural sidecar rigs. Corporations need to keep in mind motorcycles are a passion, not just a product.
If these big maker bike corporations had any brains they would REQUIRE all of their field workers like the salespeople and service trainers and parts suppliers TO BE RIDERS THEMSELVES and arrive on their bikes........................elsullo
Baxter Cycle is the best! I've purchased 3 bikes from them in the past 3 years and they have always gone above and beyond to make sure I am happy with the deal. No bastard tactics required.
It helps when the dealership doesn't have the huge overhead either. These guys build this shop 45 years ago, so not much overhead. Where as a new fancy shop will definitely have more overhead and pressure to make those months payments on the building itself. EXCELLENT VIDEO once again.
I was watching this from the kitchen and just had to stop and take in the ending again. That was absolutely beautiful, remarkable work mate. Thank you all for existing.
This interview is so sweet. In my limited experience I'd say that my home country of Sweden and the great nation of Canada have a lot in common. We're just regular people trying to live the best, most honest life we can. In a world of fierce competition.
5:10 Did anyone else notice that the red tint in the video actually changed to show the contrast between cold, hard negotiation and the warm conversation coming next? This team is a masterclass in visual storytelling. Bravo!
Kenco is the best. My dad took me there in the 80's and my boy and I shop there any chance we get. Ken, Becky, Wayne, Rocky and of course, Ben (the dog) are so valued and love by the community. Thanks, Ryan for appreciating them as much as we do!
A carefully crafted way of saying support the Local Mum and Pa dealership.
They’re all but gone where I live.
@Feraldayasmr not sure Fortnine has any love for the local mom and pop shop as they are the ones forcing them to cut their already slim margins.
@@d.o.d724 the video is self titled "how to rip off the dealership - bastard negotiating tactics"
it's very clearly calling you a bastard if you do this, how much more obvious could it be?
They will rip you off just as fast as the big ones.
@@d.o.d724 nope because the shop he was in isn't a dealership
You might notice those tactics don't work if you don't have a sales rep that's carefully trying to rip you off, it's all about playing their own greed against them
KENCO!
I live on Vancouver Island and can call Kenco my local motorcycle shop. Ken's kindness when I was 18 and just bought my first used shitty motorbike are why I am still riding today at 36. They put 2 hours of labour into fixing many issues and just charged me for parts, which allowed me to keep riding and find my love for motorcycling.
An absolute gem of a business. I wish everyone was as fortunate and had a mom-and-pop store like this in their area.
Ken and company, thanks for everything you do and FortNine for featuring this great business!
Cool, I know where I'm going of I get a new bike.
Our local place!
And I thought old time motorcycle shops were a thing of the past. I live 1200 km away, but I visit the Island a couple times a year, and I'm going to Kenco next time!
what a great comment !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats awesome.
What the fuck did I just watch, in the best way. My goodness gracious. WHY. HOW..... I mean, my god. I've been a filmmaker for 15 years now, won awards at Venice, Cannes, etc, paid the bills by making short docs for brands, and my god. I'm over here taking notes - thanks for this brand new breath of fresh air, Ryan, sincerely. You didn't have to put this much thought in, and you know it, but you did it anyway. Hats off.
This reply is as wholesome as the video is itself. ❤
That ending is possibly one of the most beautiful things you can find on TH-cam!
Bro I had to wipe my eyes. This was one of my favorite videos of all time.
Ryan and F9 never disappoint, fantastic video and great ending indeed.
Wow a deer
My jaw dropped at the transitions. One of the best videos honestly.
Your kidding me with the ening shot. Your photographer needs some praise!
Wonderful transition from the aggressive tactics required to avoid getting ripped off, to a reminder of days fading where those type of conversations weren’t needed so much.
Also: that deer was clear paid.
Not even a good paid actor, the deer didn't move until they were in frame. Basically did the equivelant of starting to walk once the camera started rolling to make it seem like they were already walking, instead of walking before the camera reached them.
Of course the deer was paid, should they rip off their actors too?
@@arquivoengestrutural the deer was even waiting for his cue and everything haha
I was sure deer was a paid actor
But reading these comments made me realise this deer is not the best actor
Venison's dear, isn't it?
Unreal production. A mom and pop powersports dealer stuck in time of an analog era. What a special feeling.
The shop owner is exactly the type of person who should be running a dealership. Great video
And thats why he's still there after all these years. No doubt flashier and bigger dealerships have come to the area over time - but they've all eventually faded away because they're missing the kinda magic that Ken has in his shop.
It was a dirty trick to get me rubbing my hands as I learn how to game a skanky dealership - and then to flip the script. Now I'm forced to confront my own greed as I listen to a man talk about the motorcycles that he loves, and of the family business that brings him a modest living. Thank you, I needed that.
Big name dealers are full of the most despicable people on earth who will actively push a poor, financially illiterate family into debt via manipulation and persuasion knowing full well what they are doing, do not feel bad about it, in my years working for a large unnamed car dealership I encountered by far the least intelligent, evil people i’ve ever met, the way they talk about the customers is absolutely disgusting and all of them are like this.
Support smaller ones like the one in the video instead! they need the business.
Kenco is in my Dad's neighborhood. I live 1500 km away. In mid September 2024, I rode down for a visit, and came to meet Ken. He was very modest and a bit surprised when I said I recognized him from this video. Great shop. The people are nicer than they appear in this video. I bought a bunch of stuff, even a t-shirt with Ken on it. Kenco is not a "boutique" with premium prices. It's an honest to goodness bike shop with more than fair prices.
They don't sell lawnmowers, because they are a bike shop, but also, in Sooke, there are a lot of deer that love to graze lawns.
If you're thinking of checking the place out, it's a scenic and twisty ride to get there.
Highly recommended!
Are you kidding me with that lovely piano, long zoom-out while they’re talking, outside, outside, outside the weathered-but-proud shop, voices fade, birds chirp, and suddenly there’s a doe in frame that looks over, before returning to its grass munching, while the birds keep chirping and the piano gently concludes … cue black screen and logo !?!? What an epic shot !! ☮️⭐️❤️
one minute and forty five seconds. Epic is right.
Welcome to Kenco in Sooke BC....it exists!
Unreal d riding
Really fantastic for sure. I think the ending has a very clever edit and is actually in reverse though. Sometimes about how the camera movement is quite awkward, and it makes more sense that the deer was eating and stopped to look over at the camera, which then pans away and approaches the shop, rather than the cameraman being able to walk backwards while filming forwards and trying to end up at the perfect spot to pan over without scaring a deer.. in any case it was magical, even if it is movie-magic.
Yeah ! the video was already an amazing one before this last crazy travelling shot with such an unexpected end !!! Man, the ending clearly has some Myiazaki mood, congratulations !!!
I’m 41 years old and grew up just down the road from Ken , I had a flat tire on my Honda z50 when I was 7 I rode my peddle bike down there and grabbed a tube from Ken I think it was 8$ at the time he gave it to me for 5. My father went to school with Ken grew up in the same town. He’s one hell of a guy and I still by all my parts there to this day. Great video.
your spelling is hitting my OCD like a sledge hammer.
@@adriandaw3451 nobody cares that you have ocd
Love the comment! Feels good to know people like this and those who appreciate them are still keeping faith in humanity!
Where is this? Is this Kenco???
@@adriandaw3451I guess you must be serious, because he left out one letter, in a long paragraph. Only the word 'buy' , which appeared as 'by'. Seems like a typo. All the rest is perfect. people need to get used to the idea that spelling, grammar, etc are not important in digital media: texting, social media, email. It's unnecessary if you can get the meaning.
What I learned from this vid:
Rip off the dealerships by not giving them your business, but instead giving it to people like Ken. As someone raised by a hot rodder in Morristown, TN, I cherish memories of going to Jerry's Hot Rod Shop as a kid and my dad having similar conversations with the owner and fellow clientele. This video brought tears to my eyes. I'm only 25 but this world feels so different now
Edit: I haven't cried this much in awhile, and I needed it. Thank you Ryan.
Sure, but how do you FIND Ken?
I always want to go local, I always want to support the third generation suit maker, I always want the hardwood from the forest down the road, but finding the sellers is a pain in the neck and ass and balls and teeth.
If you're only 25 and this video has affected you like this, keep at it. You're well on your way to being a fine human being and I'm proud of you!
Small towns die by leaking their economies to big businesses that come in. Shop local whenever you can, so the money that moves around stays within your community!
That wasn't a video... That was a love letter to Ken, his family, and his shop.
I'm not crying, you're crying!
😢, no no it’s just saw dust in my eyes.
We've got to get ourselves
Back to the garden
Crosby, Stills, and Nash
In case anyone was wondering, the ending song is Rikard From - The Old House! So beautiful.
@@ExternalTooth thanks - just the info i was looking for
What a great interview at the end very touching and engaging…I wish it were longer.
That’s what SHE said
@@TerraMagnus What an inappropriate comment AND what you said is fiction.
@@TerraMagnus - I'm not so sure I'd be bragging about that in public.
@@TerraMagnus I thought it was funny....
@@SuHwak not a fan of The Office....
The heart and artistic level of these FortNine videos never ceases to impress.
We had a lot of those small dealerships around here in Massachusetts, years ago. As an early teen in 1972, I bought a brand Yamaha LT2 from Stanley's Motor Sales. It was just a small brick building crammed with motorcycles and motorcycle stuff, Stanley was the only salesman, and yes, guys did go to those dealerships and just hang out.
Life just seemed better then. Today everything has to be "maximized"; maximize profits, maximize views. The only thing getting minimized is humanity. Dammit, now I'm gonna be philosophical all day.
This really went from super sleazy to peak wholesome on a dime
This really went from super sleazy to peak wholesome on a product placement for sunglasses 😎
@@2bfrank657 It's a good example of something that sounds awful on paper - "sarcastic youtuber gives hardball sales tips, advertises sunglasses, insert pathos here" - and yet, by gum, I felt myself getting emotional at the end there.
Only Ryan F9 can pull off being a total bastard, a sterling gentleman, and a master educator; evolving (yet again) the paradigms of motorcycling in a mere 10 minutes.
Absolute masterclass in perpetual legendarianism.
Thank you Fortnine.
And he seamlessly provided an excellent service to his sponsor so we don’t have to pay to watch this. He drives TH-cam as well as he drives a bargain.
...and as he drives his motorcycle (and his viewers *wink*).
Thank you 😊
I bought my first ever motorcycle at Kenco, a Royal Enfield Himalayan. It’s always a real pleasure to stop by and have a chat with Ken. There are not much shop like this nowadays.
I really like how they were in an interview and a friend came up and they just wave during the talk. It just shows how real truthful this interview is.
it's such a simple, but real touch. As big as this channel is, Ryan is still incredibly casual and real, it seems.
It's great that you showed the human side of the dealerships. We can't forget that at the end of the day, they're just people trying to live of their passion
Dealers like these are just far and few between these days. The mega superstore dealers stomp them out. You then sit at the mercy of a dealer that has an owner who just wants a bigger boat or another house.
@@Accost2u This 100%. The key is identifying when to be an asshole and when to say "You know what, imma just buy this one for the number it says on the label". We all know that the number of bikes you want is the number you have +1. So why not rip off you local beeg bike dealership AND take one off that customizer next town.
Mom and pop shops like the one showed in the video? Yes. mega dealerships with a warehouse with hundreds of bikes? No.
This is just wonderful. What brilliant writing.
@@Accost2u like every business, restaurants, grocery stores, shoe stores, EVERY business is 99% big business with CEOs, Bord members, and shareholders that want as much profit as possible and no matter what they made last year they want more this year and every year.
My God. I subscribed to the channel, and I don't even have a bike, nor will I be buying one anytime soon. The emotion and intelligence are oozing at every single moment. This is passion right here. What a treat this was, from begining to end. Heartfelt bravo.
This has to be one of your best videos , my Dad owned a dealership for 40 years with his two brothers. They build it from nothing and he worked 6 days a week for forty years. I remember all the ups and downs, and there were plenty of downs. The boys worked their guts out to provide the best service they could to their customers, only to be screwed over again and again by the manufacturers. Thanks for shedding a light on family owned dealers guys
God bless your family for sticking it out for the little guy! Its a family tradition that we all appreciate.
That closing bit was so good that I almost hate you. Garlic, scenery, DEER. Seriously, take your finger out of my brain! 🤣🤣
Haha, I was thinking just that 😅
No, I didn't choke up at this part. Not me, nope.
I've known Ken for years. Living in Victoria. He's been part , no! A huge part of the motorcycling community in so many ways. Many riders call Kenco motorcycles their place.
And no!! The deer is not paid, but part of the deal as it's been fed and taken care of by the family. Let's not forget the chickens. I'd say without a doubt that Kenco has always been a destination. A place where like Ken says you're welcome to come to shoot shit and have coffee, ask advice etc. and buy stuff with amazing service! Ken is a great guy and an awesome rider as well. And let's not forget his wife who is also a huge part of why Kenco has been with us for so long.. Awesome dealer.
There's a certain large island motorcycle company (whoops! It's their name) that could learn EVERYTHING from Ken.
Thank you Ken for all you're doing.
Iceman!!
The deer did it for me. I wonder if that was planned or it just happened to be there on one of the takes and the cam op went "welp this better be the final take I guess"
that deer was ridiculous
That was probably one of the most beautifully done videos about motorcycles I've ever seen.
Watched it all and I’m not into bikes!
F9 doesn't miss
Anybody else distantly looking out their window with welled up eyes at the end of this? I came here for motorcycle content and ended up questioning life. WTF? Bro you're a genius. Good job F9 team.
Absolutely!
omg yes! i am so glad i'm not the only one lol. very good reminder to support your local shops, they'll be there for you when you're in a bind - unlike the mega retailers!
I mean, who expects this at the end of an F9 video? I teared up. Fuckin' legends.
Same here, got all sentimental and wanted to call someone to say l care about them. Guys a wizard 😊
Yes! As it faded out I found myself murmuring “fuuuuck Ryan that hurts”. Such a great video. And reminds me why I miss BCM Ducati of New Hampshire so badly. Run by an old racer and his spouse, with amazing techs he empowered to do the right thing by customers… it was a great place to just drop by socially even when you didn’t need that inevitable Ducati warranty work. :) Bruce and Susie retired a couple decades back, sold it to some guy who ran it into the ground. :(
Came for the bastard negotiating tactics even though I don’t plan on getting rid of my current motorcycle any time soon, and stayed for the unexpected warm conversation with a family business owner even though I’m not even anywhere near enough to make a ride out to buy anything. I even watched and listened to the end. Such is the magic of Ryan F9.
5:10 I love the change of color of the light when he says from a human light
It’s shown at the start, but you don’t realize its value till the end.
The dealer is Kenco Motorcycles in Sooke BC (near Victoria).
Never been there, but this garlicky man found his way into my heart.
Hey Eric, great to see you here!
WTF just happened!? I watch a video about how to get a good deal on a motorcycle and now I am actually crying?! Two guys sitting in a shop chatting bikes. Emotional heft on the end of that one. Standing ovation, truly.
Âmen, brother...same here😥
Touched me soul🫶🙌
A Vmax being repaired in the shot!
Dude, this wasn’t just educational, it showed that you get it with small business owners and that personalized experience. There is so much to learn from these businesses. I’ll forever be a fan of Fort-nine. God bless!
Sadly enough, I used to have one of those shops near me. He was the owner, the salesman, the mechanic, the everything. He had a parts man that worked the counter and answered the phone. He worked on everything motorcycle for over 40 years. He passed away, shop closed, the building got sold. Time waits for no one. It seems like those were better days.
This dealer is awesome. Went out of their way to help me fix my bike as a traveller. Mechanic loaned me some tools so I could repair in the parking lot, along with some zip ties and wiring connectors. Go give them business, they deserve it.
Beautiful presentation. Got me choked up at the end. Why does the world feel so high anxiety and narcissistic??? The lack of the respect for a human touch. Very well done.
I got directed to this video from a friend, and I gotta give you exactly one compliment that I don't think anyone else has said. Your approach with the sponsor is FUCKING. FLAWLESS. Short, sweet, to the POINT! Doesn't interrupt the video, flows like a charm, and doesn't say 100 things I didn't wanna hear. If everyone did sponsorships with this much grace and brevity, I would never ever skip sponsorship ads. Absolutely masterful work. Good video overall, too!
Agree, i never skip sponsor section on F9 videos and if i wasn't blind as a bat i'd be buying some of those glasses :-)
I didn't even notice the sponsorship, are you talking about the glasses or the shop itself? Because I'm not sure if they were sponsored by the shop, they'd have to disclose it if otherwise
@@ian9033 Flying eyes does prescription lenses also. I have a set, they are amazing!
@@ian9033 they do have prescription lens options, but I'm not going to bother looking at the price for a while now since I fear it'll scare me
The product was part of the story from the first word through the last scene and that script flip in the middle, majestic.
Born and raised on Vancouver Island (Sooke). Ken has been a staple in everything motorcycles for years. This man has done more for the motorcycling community than anyone on island. Huge shout out to Ken and Kenco!! 💯
Got a bunch of gear from Ken when I first started riding 15 years ago, happy to see everything is still similar up there.
Since the early 80’s for me. Still the same.
Sure you have nice cameras, great editing, a budget to blow... But you guys sure can tell a compelling story. Your ability to tell an amazing story is why we all stay
Wow that ending was very touching.
I love mom and pop shops.
This isn't just the best motorcycle channel on TH-cam.
This is ART.
The best video you've done by far. I could listen to your chat with Ken for hours. What a bloke.
We need more bike shops like that in the UK. Family owned and full to the brim with random bike stuff.
For those that feel but don’t truly understand this gentleman’s perspective. I run a hydraulic repair shop that my Grandpa started in 1935, we have giant companies call on our customers weekly, we can’t keep all our prices dirt low to compete, but we have a large inventory and a lot of knowledge that gives us enough of an edge to stay in business. Then there’s the internet where most consumers become engineers, once that fails, they come back to us to figure out what went wrong.
Sadly, as there’s not a 4th generation willing to continue on, I’m now forced to face the final door closer in the next few years. I saw the look in his eyes when explaining how he’s done it for so long, it brought me to tears as I know what he feels. I pray they are able to keep fighting for years to come, as fighting giant companies is becoming harder every single year.
All progress is change, not all change is progress.
Waited too long to train the younger generation by at least 20 years... I've come thru many shops and seen this. old heads complaining how they won't be around much longer and that the whole business is at an end. Because in the 90s it was good money and they wanted more money in their pockets so less employees the better turning away potentially good young learners. Then 2008 happened and old dudes retired... Now 2020 happened and old dudes retired... Not enough around to train the young ones anymore. Sounds a lot like "you made ur own bed now sleep in it" kind of deal..
We've had suppliers call ours and customers call our suppliers.
Thankfully the mix of good suppliers and customers means most have been headed off and a boss who's not afraid to call out either of the others means we're all good.
Like the other reply our oldies are leaving and taking the knowledge with them ( that to be honest they weren't always willing to share with non time served "proper" engineers ) but it's near impossible to find anyone under 30 with the brains to do it and the will to stick around.
We've got a couple of good young uns that look like they'll stick and us in the middle with knowledge and experience.
Even as a small business on the edge of the country we have a lot of reach and enough going on to be well in the top half dozen of our suppliers customers, and their one, if not the, top player.
Who's your giants Albert? And don't keep your prices low, we're keen but we won't do it unless it's worth it, but we're good at what we do, do it right and we're here. Our UK based giants don't bother much down here, or if they do they muff it up and we get to fix it.
I'm working in a printing shop, running big presses. I'm 49, and out of 8 press operators, I'm the youngest one. New generation just don't feel like putting in hard work anymore. They want instant results and high pay. It takes 3 to 5 years to become a press operator.
@@Andriig75 nobody is asking for instant results. Also define "high pay" because maybe you just mean people don't want to work for federal minimum wage for four fucking years when rent for a one bedroom is 1,600 a month... Not including your car payments and food and clothing cost... Wake up to reality my dude.
This is the kind of video that millions of riders want to see. Sitting down with local dealers, showcasing the heart of the community, all in a slickly produced, easy to watch package. Always loved this channel for its charm, but this kind of work is a genuine credit to what we all love. Thank you!
These are short art films, not just youtube videos. I like supporting my local non corporate businesses. Because it's not just a business, it's a community. What a way to make that point!
That cinematic pan out is a walk we all seem to do. We grow away from the honest conversation about life with strangers and make effort to isolate more now then ever. We observe from afar, so still to avoid connection even a deer is unthreatened by our presence, because we are barely even here anymore. Find more mom and pop shops. Groceries, clothing, automotive, anything you can get at big box and online you should try to get from real people. Keep it alive so you can feel alive. ❤
I get that so much. I live out in the burbs, and the only family shop around is the fruit and veg place, meanwhile because the big shops abandoned the city centre for the shopping centres there are plenty of family run shops there now. It’s incredible working in a place as big as the city but the Italian deli owner knows you by name. I wanna live in the city but $$$…
Let's go. This channel is better than Saturday morning cartoons as a kid.
Lol, it really is!
С каждым годом становится лучше как вино..)
No cartoons,, I had to do chores and work Saturdays...
@@kevinbowers3917 with your moms music blasting in kitchen
Yessir!
This is exactly the feeling more people should have about the world around them, kind, compassionate and honest. I hope to somehow make it to Kens shop to buy my first bike. It's a bit away from Kansas but definitely after this winter. Passionate vid
That gave me genuine goosebumps and a tear to my eye at the end. Really well done.
I can literally smell the shop. Glad Ken is still around helping the community.
smell the garlic ?
@@gusseisern1151beat me to it
Using bastard tactics gets you a bastard salesman. Just like stopping by for a social conversation gets you a passionate and social salesman.
This is such a beautiful video and is much needed for the world today. Thank you, Team Fortnine. Not everything is about clever tricks to get a deal at the expense of hurting someone's business, and businesses like these definitely need our support instead. Thank you for doing your part.
if a buisness gets screwed over by its customers that is peoples wallets speaking. Maybe stop being a shitty business and people wont screw you over.
Crazy that you watch fort9. Small world.
This man makes art, plain and simple.
Well-- give the rest of his team credit too. They're all talented as hell.
Its 1106 miles to this dealership. I've got a full tank of gas, a half pack of smokes, its the weekend,.... and I could use a new pair of sunglasses (and maybe a rear sprocket.)
I feel like I should hit the road for an impromptu ride.
hit it
Giver bud
the first thing I did was look up the location to make a ride there.. unfortunately on the wrong end of the country for me, 3000 miles is a bit much..
Git 'er done, Drybread! Love the comment!!!! I am 1,472 from the dealership, 2 packs of Backwoods and would join you for the ride :)
This channel is a gift to the Motorcycle community. Clear and simple. Amazing job, keep it up.
Truly.
He has everything wrapped up in to these short videos, and it’s hard to ‘keep up’.
I can’t explain it! He’s a freaking genius.....
I’ll go as far as a candidate for motorcycle hall of fame.
I am yet to see a marketeer that is not only extremely good at his job, but acutually understands that it is not (only) about numbers, but that there are living and breathing people on the other side who want to be dealt with as such. You incorporate a 30 seconds long advertisement into a 10 minutes long video and nobody has the urge to speed forward through it, because you make it so unobtrusive. That is art in my book.
Ken is the man, been going to his shop for over thirty two years now. Always greets you with a smile. helps you out. gives you the best price he can. Thanks for all the good conversations and good times Ken and I know many more to come! Rubber side down!
Been going to Kenco for 33+ years. They've become like family, they really care. Just worked their magic on my new bike. Most trusted motorcycle shop ever.
Not a biker. Probably will never be a biker. But the shot from 8:21 might be the best shot ever I've seen in a TH-cam video. That's like AAA/Hollywood-type stuff. What the hell. I don't care if it's AI or reframed or backwards, that's gold right there.
I turned 65 yrs.old today. I consider this my best gift! Thx F9.
Happy birthday! ~RF9
This is absolute genius film-making! The script is off the wall. So subversive that I needed multiple viewings to catch all the subtleties. It is an extraordinary ode to mom&pop dealership owners and their passion for motorcycling. I would buy from Ken if I weren't on the other side of the continent.
The cinematography, the very long shots, editing, and script are second to none. Low-cost effects using lighting and focus changes fit perfectly with Ryan's brisk, but smooth delivery. The transition at 3:18 with the creaking sound effect is hilarious. The interview with Ken is great and informative for us, plebes.
The end shot with the deer, accompanied by that melancholic music, leaves one emotional and thinking about the end of an era, corporations and their greed.
I am thankful Ryan and his team spoil us from time to time with superb films on a topic I am passioned for.
That ending gave me inner peace. That was so unbelievably beautiful! 😭
I cannot believe you even convinced a deer to do a cameo. (*chef kiss*)
He evokes laughter, wow’s us with nerdly bike physics and stunt riding, and now he brings a tear to the eye. A master’s greatest masterpiece yet.
(honourable mention out to the guy in the deer suit. Rocked it!!)
5:32 after explaining how to rip off all the dealers “hey so you’re the last mom and pop dealer left!?” 😂
Yeah but most likely you are not going to negotiate like a bastard with your mom and pop dealer. (I know you were joking).
I negotiate like a bastard for cars but not with my local motorcycle dealership (sturgess Cycle in Hamilton), they are good guys. Bigger motorcycle dealerships, I might be tempted though.
I own a bicycle shop and it's not easy but beautiful and this video just did something to my heart and soul that I can't put into words but it will stay with me for a very, very long time.
Thank you!
0:09 rolling up with the kickstand down? Classy
Dismounting on the high-side? Classiest!
If you stay ready you ain’t got to get ready
cigarette butt tossed as litter was the cherry on top
Ma and pa dealers/service shops are the best. They treat you well because their livelihood depends on it, and I will ALWAYS be more than happy to support people like that. Also that thing about newer and more corporate dealers not stocking parts is real. But my local had parts for my 1979 Z50R!!!!!!! Fully expected dude to walk into the back and bang some pots and pans around then say sorry, nothing. But he dug around and found me some brake parts. Thank you Bob, absolute legend.
dude, this is what I've always loved about you, Ryan. You're a story teller
Damn! You NAILED it! Ryan is the BEST indie on TH-cam. I keep wondering why a big time producer hasn't hired him yet. But every episode is a near perfectly crafted story.
Kickstand down while parking is nice shot
This hits me in the feels. I bought my first motorcycle from a mom and pop shop in Vegas that’s since closed, due to the bigger mainstream shops stomping them out. They never upsold, made an offer that kept them afloat; and that was it. Such a shame those small shops are closing down.
I was really pissed at first when the video set up to exploit Kenco. This shop is riding history. Always honest, always upfront. Free diagnostic advice, straight pricing.... the best.
Ryan pulled it around to teach us why we should support rather than exploit these gems of integrity. How to exploit the exploiters backed by profit focused corporations was his first lesson.
Why we should bite the bullet and pay a little more to support the heartwood was the second lesson.
Harpers Moto is a Guzzi vendor with 'Kenco' integrity. I hope the Nakusp BC Laverda dealer, or his son, is still going.....
Please post the name/url of other small/honest specialty businesses that keep our passion viable.
Thanks Ryan.
If you're in the Essex kent area of Ontario, Robinson motorcycles has been around since 1958. Great Harley shop. Also shout out to Hudson Honda in Tilbury. They're reasonably priced and both will work on older models
@adamlanglois563 Robinson Motorcycle in Wheatley Ontario. Rode my new to me1980 Kawasaki 440ltd there when I was 17 years old. In February 1983. Oogled the GPZ750 with the digital gas gauge. And spent hours looking at leather gloves, boots, and jackets. Met Larry Robinson, who gave me a very big discount on gloves, a leather jacket, boots, and a windshield before I froze solid.
They always treated me like a valued customer. And I kept going back. They sponsored local racers and gave to the community.
When I moved to Toronto for work, I noticed that my coworkers' custom Harley had a Robison Motorcycle license plate frame. Which started the conversation of iconic dealerships.
Thanks for your comment, you brought back 100's of good memories.
Let the good times roll!
Man. I never thought I'd get emotional watching an F9 video.
You must be new here! ;)
Never seen one of your videos before. Man, this takes a 180 degree turn at 5:36. From snarky useful comedy to sweet promotion of supporting local and props to perseverance....and garlic...and rusted old trucks...and Bambi.
One of your best videos to date. Honestly, it may be my favorite. What a wholesome dude. Thank you for making this.
Definitely my favorite F9 video but it’s top five TH-cam videos of all time, too.
As someone who owned a bike shop for a few years, this one brought a tear to my eye. Wish I could give Ken a big ole hug. It's tough, but he's living the dream. Thanks for this video!
It goes both ways. I've been on the receiving end of bastard dealerships as a green customer. Learned my lessons over the years... and paid for them. COVID era was especially nasty... everyone was price-gouging like it's hunting season.
Thanks for doing this Ryan! The big manufacturers have pulled the rug out from underneath Ken on several occasions. He is exactly how he seems in this video. He means it when he says "Come for coffee. You don't even need to buy anything." Ken is a pillar of the motorcycle community on Vancouver Island. If you come to the south Island and you don't stop in to see Ken, you are missing out! We have nothing but respect for Ken and Kenco around here!
I just shed a tear.
This guy is maybe one of the best film makers of our generation and he only makes TH-cam videos about motorcycling
Probably the best video I have seen in a while.... .....that ending. So beautiful... ....and so sad at the same time.
I’m 78, retired mechanic in North Carolina, would love to buy a bike from this man but I have gotten wobbly on my feet at times so had to sell my last motorcycle 2 years ago. I understand,respect and love this man and would love to go to Western Canada and pay full retail for the bike I would likely get killed on. Yea I should just that……
One of my older riding buddies who also got me into trucking had the same problem. Just couldn't hold up his bike anymore. He ended up on a trike. He loves it but says it's just not the same.
Thanks for come back. A while back looked at the Russian made Ural with side car very very cool but I really don’t need to be working on it all the time. I hope you do well……
@@southerncross4956 My granddad had an Ural when I was a kid (over 30 years ago) I enjoyed every second of riding with him. He lived in the country, lots of unpaved road, lots of fun. It used to brake often but at the same time it always felt reliable somehow
@@rostfomin Enjoyed hearing from you guys. Do all what you can do while you are physically and mentally sound. Six months ago I was king of the world with ability, knowledge and enough money to do what ever. But Five months ago both lungs got infected, 3 weeks getting over that. 30 days later massive heart attack, what a go that was. But I have to say the 25 crazy minute ride in an ambulance with Earnhardt driving and a Hell Angle looking dud trying to keep me alive in the back while shouting to the driver “ETA?ETA?” while I’m thinking man, I’m in big trouble (which I was) was interesting. The elephant standing on my chest with one leg had me hollowing at times. That ambulance was a roller coster ride latter Earnhardt told me he had to drive on the sidewalk a good bit to get to the ER. Hell Angle gave me aspirin, then nitroglycerin then he said your getting morphine now… I thought cool what will that do well my body got numb but the elegant just laughed. Anyway the ER was interesting too. I’m sorry gone on way to far….ride you bikes all you can, do well my men.
FortNine has been a favourite of mine for years, and I don't even ride motorcycles. Seen him around the community making videos many times. Down an old woodland road, riding the feet first bike down Dollarton, it is always great to see the Soul of our city in these creators. The ending of the video brought me back years to a a simpler time, and a calm summer breeze. Thank you.
you don't ride motorcycles >yet
The Mom and Pop cycle shop interview was inspiring and heartwarming while soul-crushing at the same time.
That was beautiful, Ryan. I could listen to that good ol boy for hours.. My local shop is now owned by the lad that was the shop apprentice when I got my first bike. We've been friends for many years, grown up together, raised families together.. I've moved away now but I still call in when I'm back home, always a brew going and always time for a chinwag. I hope we never lose these "proper" bike shops. Motorbikes 😎
The genuine simplicity of this video....just a guy, his shop, his devotion to it, and the friends and customers show up time and time again.
Whats F9 gonna do with Girish gets the call to go to Hollywood for his unbelievable directing and editing skills? Cause this man is taking informational motorcycle videos and turning them in to art pieces. It's truly incredible.
Beautiful piece. I always tell my wife how gut wrenching is visiting small dealerships here in France. You speak to the owners and you can see without them telling you, that they are there because they love bikes, but that it is a tough business. There eyes reflect a lot of pressure.
I have purchased many items from Ken over the years. All my riding buddies love going to Kenco.....we are very lucky to have him here. In fact I may take a ride up there to pay a visit today. :)
Mr. F9, you really need to make more of this kind of video. That interview was excellent and that last shot was probably the best cinematic scene I've seen on TH-cam
Shows more depth of emotion and what connects us as humans in 10 mins than a 16 week psychology undergrad course! Good on ya Mate!
This warmed my heart so much. I lost my great grandpa recently and grouped remember having conversations with him just talking about his life.
Thank you Ryan, this brought tears to my eyes.
Wow.... your best video yet. Absolutely AMAZING interview and ending.! Wow
Excellent contrast video! This made my day. I worked part-time at a mom and pop Harley shop 45 years ago. They sold used and new bikes right alongside each other on the showroom floor. Harley took their franchise because they didn't want to spend a million dollars upgrading their dealership to sell "motorclothes" and other overpriced HD badged paraphernalia.
There's not many shops like this around anymore, which is a pity. There's a similar shop in Marne, Iowa called Baxter Cycle. It's a very old school shop, no games, or tricks, just honest folks. They sell Royal Enfield, Triumph, and vintage British iron. I bought my Himalayan there last year, and the moment I stepped through the door, I felt at home. Sadly, this is a rare occasion these days. Dealerships all look alike, and feel like car dealerships. I had a friend who owned a BMW dealership, Blue Moon Cycle. BMW corporate was always on him to bring his shop inline with the appearance plan they wanted, eventually he told them to piss off. He still has the shop, and is doing quite well selling vintage motorcycles, mostly BMWs and Ural sidecar rigs. Corporations need to keep in mind motorcycles are a passion, not just a product.
Did you get to see THE ROOM? One of the most spectacular things Ive ever seen motorcycle related.
If these big maker bike corporations had any brains they would REQUIRE all of their field workers like the salespeople and service trainers and parts suppliers TO BE RIDERS THEMSELVES and arrive on their bikes........................elsullo
I've ordered parts for my Enfield from Baxter but never been.
@@Deetroiter Enlighten us, what is THE ROOM...?
Baxter Cycle is the best! I've purchased 3 bikes from them in the past 3 years and they have always gone above and beyond to make sure I am happy with the deal. No bastard tactics required.
Lmao the deer at the end!! Couldn't have shot a more perfect video
Great to see Kenco get some love. Good people and honest service.
It helps when the dealership doesn't have the huge overhead either. These guys build this shop 45 years ago, so not much overhead. Where as a new fancy shop will definitely have more overhead and pressure to make those months payments on the building itself. EXCELLENT VIDEO once again.
I was watching this from the kitchen and just had to stop and take in the ending again. That was absolutely beautiful, remarkable work mate.
Thank you all for existing.
This interview is so sweet. In my limited experience I'd say that my home country of Sweden and the great nation of Canada have a lot in common. We're just regular people trying to live the best, most honest life we can. In a world of fierce competition.
5:10 Did anyone else notice that the red tint in the video actually changed to show the contrast between cold, hard negotiation and the warm conversation coming next? This team is a masterclass in visual storytelling. Bravo!
The quality of these videos are just amazing. You should actually get awards.
What a great ending sequence. Love the content that you and the team produce. Thanks.
Kenco is the best. My dad took me there in the 80's and my boy and I shop there any chance we get. Ken, Becky, Wayne, Rocky and of course, Ben (the dog) are so valued and love by the community. Thanks, Ryan for appreciating them as much as we do!