Based on your description, it's almost a perfect fit (compared to bl3/monarch/sa6) No need to rush tho, since it's not a limited version like SA6 ultra, you may sit and see how other people react to it as well.
Don't worry, it's not like I'm gone or something. Whenever there's something interesting, I'll most likely, always be there since audio is a long game that I plan to play in life/ with this channel. It's just I'm not prepared to do the same "buy everything that is sub or not even interesting to me and talk about it" kind of trend (you don't see me buying dusk/volare, because they look sub-interesting to the consumer part of me), hopefully in the future I can find a way to do so...? But as of now, I can only afford doing an audio equipment related video either it's so tempting to the point I swipe for it, or it's a review unit that is at least "good". PS Yes, at least two manufacturers backed down when they hear that I'll simply ignore/ give a cold shoulder to the review unit if they are not good in today standard. Well, that's kind of my fault, but I really don't feel like giving attention to something that doesn't even look half-tempting to me.
Pardon, but are these fast in transient speed? The Kato for example are slow and pillowy the way they hit. I’m not talking about amount of bass either. I also have the Alba which are faster than the Kato , if that helps. Thanks so much !
so, yay or nay for bassheads? (example songs would be "Bass Boy - I Love Big Speakers (ft. Techmaster P.E.B.)" and "Béla Fleck & The Flecktones - Flight of The Cosmic Hippo") I find them to be lacking in bass when listening with Zero 2, so I want to find something to upgrade to, that isn't $500+
Someone (a reviewer) said on facebook that the soundstage and imaging of DaVinci is "meh". How do you find it in those regards? Does it have a narrow stage & unprecise imaging?
I don't find any of these problems tho, stage is normal and imaging wise it's as concise as my other daily drivers can be. Maybe it's an eartips problem? I used S&S (M size) on it, and it sounds great. But now I switched to Sancai eartips (M) for better comfort and in ear pressure balancing, sounds even better.
@@catadegenlet me follow up with a more specific question: Does Davinci have a wide, immersive sound presentation that wraps around the head, putting you inside the music (particularly when the volume is cranked up) or does it present music mostly in front of your face at a distance? Hope that makes sense.
@@phetmoz I'd like to say, it almost sound like a pair of headphones with the sancai tips on it, because the bass is warping you inside a ball of sound, and everything sounds slightly bigger than what you would get out of a pair of iem (but still in iem range). In fact, it's meaningless to talk in this way because I'm comparing to other iems on hand, but not headphones. Headphones will always sound like headphones, because of physics. If you expect a pair of iem to sound exactly like headphones, nope, even annihilator won't do that, because it's unnecessary.
@@phetmoz Np, and of course I can simply give you an answer "YES", but please enlighten me how do I give an answer "YES" if every single pair of GOOD iem can do "wide, immersive sound presentation that wraps around the head, putting you inside the music". Without a point of comparison, only someone who doesn't care can give you an affirmative answer.
I see the Blue Archive Symphony (Blue Archive OST Orchestral Cover Album) in the video, Instant like. Davinci will be on my short list together with cca hydro, simgot sm4, and the new tanchjim 4u.
@@catadegen Are the bass so much stronger compared to the Bl03?! I say this because many people think the Bl03 is bass heavy but I think it's simply fantastic.
@@catadegen I still feel that the mid-highs of the Bl03 make it a bit harsh, I'm using it with the cp100 spinfits. I currently use a Dunu Titan S for fps games and the Blon Bl03 as an All-rounder. As I am Brazilian, this cost increases significantly, so I have doubts. One thing I love about blon is the timbre and almost analog-like sound that the midrange has, I can use it all day long, the comfort is simply sublime... And that's what I'm looking for in Davinci. What do you have to tell me about this? Is Davinci still commendable for competitive gaming too?
@@gabrieldasilva3762 if ur happy with the current sound, there’s no rush to upgrade or anything, since it’s not a limited run. And for competitive gaming? Nah, I won’t use things with a lot of bass for competitive gaming.
Hard to pick, this sounds straight forward and studio 4 sounds bigger for female vocal, but if i really have to pick one for female vocal solo (no other fancy elements involved in the track), i'd pick s4.
Thank you! That's a very good question as well, and I'd say DaVinci offers a warm but overall still clean kind of natural sound signature with emphasis on bass quality, on the other hand Orchestra lite offers a typical clean BA sounding kind of neutral sound, with more resolution on the top end. Both are really great sounding sets that I'm willing to put it in my rotation of daily drivers. o/
I don't have a very rigid playlist (you can see in the description in each video, I've written down what I enjoyed listening to, in that specific pair of iem), more like I'm long gone from the day only playing back standardized list of dsd files on my dap, now I most likely listen to whatever I found interesting, but overall, it's among classical, game soundtracks, pops etc.
I have never owned a pair variation so really cannot comment much on that, but based on FR, variations is on the harman/exciting side, but DaVinci is on the smoother side.
Micro-detail wise, it's a downgrade, since SA6mk2 has very strong sheer resolution and attack on notes, but I'd say DaVinci is a much versatile set due to tuning.
@@MatMediaTV I don't have ie200, but comparing to chu 2 from memory, it sounds bigger, bass is more distinct and textured, treble is smoother, vocal sounds more organic, overall a lot more technical as well etc... and because chu2 is a single DD, its hard to compare as well.
@@apothecy4011 let's wait for more comparisons to make such a radical statement, shall we ? a comparison to hype 2 and doscinquos is the bare minimum imo
??? Dusk is arguably the worst of the bunch (sub $500 category of 2024). The hype4 is easily the best and main competitor of the davinci. EM10 is yet to be released but is said to be slightly better than the hype4. There is also the new pilgrims which are also better than the dusks. Main problem with the dusk is people say it isnt even worth the full retail price. The analog cable is terrible and the dsp cable is scuffed… app hardly works on android devices and there is no app for ios still.
@@LocallsYT Yh cable and software may be bad, but that has nothing to do with the iem’s sound. Don’t think it’s a good idea to say dusk is bad when you seemingly haven’t even tried it
@@LocallsYT Have you tried the all the iems you mentioned like the hype 4 and pilgrim? If so, how are they better? I haven’t seen any review that straight up said hype 4 and pilgrim are better than the dusk.
@@Rat0713 just curious, what marketing did crin do except making a single shill video like everyone else who has made a collab does? There are people like z review and hbb who even compare their collab iems with other sets, don’t know why people think crin is doing some devious marketing
I love listening to Rnb and soul. Would this be a good buy? if you have spotify or apple music, could you try listening to Let Me Go by Daniel Caesar? I would highly appreciate it.
The thing is, I have no prior experience on these songs, and the sound signature of this set is so forgiving, it's very possible for me to only have good words on my listening experience. In fact, I did listen to it, and it sounds good, but I feel wrong to say "it sounds good to my ears in the song that im not used to, so it's a good buy".
@@catadegen Fair enough. Thank you for this! It's kinda hard to find people that is in this kind of hobby from my country that's why I rely on reviews most of the time. They love speakers, not much on the HP and IEMs side of this hobby.
Another mediocre V profile? Why can't they release IEMs like the HD650, the HD650 will be anything, except a horrible V profile. The lows and highs are overrated, what matters is the mids and the more in front the better.
This can never stop! Next in line Simgot EM10, hehe
Fantastic review !! I love how it stands out from the rest 🎉🎉❤
Nice showcase on the IEM sizes.
Nice review.
Damn it xD i'm so tempted to pull the trigger on this one.
As a bass lover and treble sensitive, would you say it would fit?
Based on your description, it's almost a perfect fit (compared to bl3/monarch/sa6) No need to rush tho, since it's not a limited version like SA6 ultra, you may sit and see how other people react to it as well.
can wait to be available in our local online shops
why are you not doing audio product reviews anymore? I absolutely love how you review things it's such a unique style. I hope you come back soon.
Don't worry, it's not like I'm gone or something. Whenever there's something interesting, I'll most likely, always be there since audio is a long game that I plan to play in life/ with this channel. It's just I'm not prepared to do the same "buy everything that is sub or not even interesting to me and talk about it" kind of trend (you don't see me buying dusk/volare, because they look sub-interesting to the consumer part of me), hopefully in the future I can find a way to do so...?
But as of now, I can only afford doing an audio equipment related video either it's so tempting to the point I swipe for it, or it's a review unit that is at least "good".
PS Yes, at least two manufacturers backed down when they hear that I'll simply ignore/ give a cold shoulder to the review unit if they are not good in today standard.
Well, that's kind of my fault, but I really don't feel like giving attention to something that doesn't even look half-tempting to me.
Interesting, I probably gonna buy one
Pardon, but are these fast in transient speed? The Kato for example are slow and pillowy the way they hit. I’m not talking about amount of bass either. I also have the Alba which are faster than the Kato , if that helps.
Thanks so much !
@Nightjar726 Never heard of Alba so really cannot comment much on it, but if you mean sound attack speed, I feel like BAs always have the edge.
@ what are BAs? Thank you sir
@Nightjar726 One type of drivers in the earphones, there are mainly dynamic drivers, balanced armature (BAs), planar, and electrostatic drivers.
so, yay or nay for bassheads?
(example songs would be "Bass Boy - I Love Big Speakers (ft. Techmaster P.E.B.)" and "Béla Fleck & The Flecktones - Flight of The Cosmic Hippo")
I find them to be lacking in bass when listening with Zero 2, so I want to find something to upgrade to, that isn't $500+
It's a yay, and possibly a very safe yay as well, since the resolution is there without sharpness.
@@catadegen Fantastic to hear! Will seriously consider getting this, then :D
Thank you so much for answering :)
Someone (a reviewer) said on facebook that the soundstage and imaging of DaVinci is "meh".
How do you find it in those regards? Does it have a narrow stage & unprecise imaging?
I don't find any of these problems tho, stage is normal and imaging wise it's as concise as my other daily drivers can be. Maybe it's an eartips problem? I used S&S (M size) on it, and it sounds great. But now I switched to Sancai eartips (M) for better comfort and in ear pressure balancing, sounds even better.
@@catadegenlet me follow up with a more specific question:
Does Davinci have a wide, immersive sound presentation that wraps around the head, putting you inside the music (particularly when the volume is cranked up)
or
does it present music mostly in front of your face at a distance?
Hope that makes sense.
@@phetmoz I'd like to say, it almost sound like a pair of headphones with the sancai tips on it, because the bass is warping you inside a ball of sound, and everything sounds slightly bigger than what you would get out of a pair of iem (but still in iem range).
In fact, it's meaningless to talk in this way because I'm comparing to other iems on hand, but not headphones. Headphones will always sound like headphones, because of physics.
If you expect a pair of iem to sound exactly like headphones, nope, even annihilator won't do that, because it's unnecessary.
@@catadegen thanks for trying, but you didn't answer my question. 🤷🏻♂️
@@phetmoz Np, and of course I can simply give you an answer "YES", but please enlighten me how do I give an answer "YES" if every single pair of GOOD iem can do "wide, immersive sound presentation that wraps around the head, putting you inside the music". Without a point of comparison, only someone who doesn't care can give you an affirmative answer.
I see the Blue Archive Symphony (Blue Archive OST Orchestral Cover Album) in the video, Instant like. Davinci will be on my short list together with cca hydro, simgot sm4, and the new tanchjim 4u.
As a big fan of the Blon Bl03 I'm looking for a considerable upgrade, would the Dunu Davinci be an upgrade in every aspect?!
Funny enough, a BL03 upgrade is a very accurate description for Davinci, that I never thought of. So yes o/
@@catadegen Are the bass so much stronger compared to the Bl03?! I say this because many people think the Bl03 is bass heavy but I think it's simply fantastic.
@@gabrieldasilva3762 It hits deeper and the bass has more texture for sure. And I think the bass of bl03 is not bad as well o/
@@catadegen I still feel that the mid-highs of the Bl03 make it a bit harsh, I'm using it with the cp100 spinfits.
I currently use a Dunu Titan S for fps games and the Blon Bl03 as an All-rounder.
As I am Brazilian, this cost increases significantly, so I have doubts.
One thing I love about blon is the timbre and almost analog-like sound that the midrange has, I can use it all day long, the comfort is simply sublime... And that's what I'm looking for in Davinci.
What do you have to tell me about this?
Is Davinci still commendable for competitive gaming too?
@@gabrieldasilva3762 if ur happy with the current sound, there’s no rush to upgrade or anything, since it’s not a limited run. And for competitive gaming? Nah, I won’t use things with a lot of bass for competitive gaming.
in afterthoughts: 'thin and BLAND" - blend is to mix ingredients
urghhhh, I f*ed up again, thank you for correcting!
What do you prefer this or the studio 4 for female vocals
Hard to pick, this sounds straight forward and studio 4 sounds bigger for female vocal, but if i really have to pick one for female vocal solo (no other fancy elements involved in the track), i'd pick s4.
So for the pop and EDM songs you listened to, was the sub bass good? I’m trying to find a $200-300 iem for EDM/kpop
It's good, in fact, very good.
Finally! Many crossovers for a marketing. A chifi with 6.5khz deep and 10khz peak wen?
Great review!!! How does this compare to Orchestra lite?
Thank you! That's a very good question as well, and I'd say DaVinci offers a warm but overall still clean kind of natural sound signature with emphasis on bass quality, on the other hand Orchestra lite offers a typical clean BA sounding kind of neutral sound, with more resolution on the top end. Both are really great sounding sets that I'm willing to put it in my rotation of daily drivers. o/
@@catadegen understood...Thank you!!!
sounds like an amazing set, lets wait a year and see if they release something better for cheaper.
Hmm... interesting review. Nice video..
Degen we need your playlist!
I don't have a very rigid playlist (you can see in the description in each video, I've written down what I enjoyed listening to, in that specific pair of iem), more like I'm long gone from the day only playing back standardized list of dsd files on my dap, now I most likely listen to whatever I found interesting, but overall, it's among classical, game soundtracks, pops etc.
Bro can you tell which iem is best for gaming chu2 - zero 2 ?
I’d take chu2.
B3 or davinci for anime songs ?
* i love vocals to death
Tough, but I will pick b3 with spring tips, because female vocal on b3 has more grip and clarity on it.
how do you think these would compare to the mega5ests they look great for the price
I've never owned a pair of mega5ests, so really cannot comment much on that.
Please try out the Timsok Ts-316. It is truly amazing sounding and many people don't know about it.
I have the moondrop variations and be looking for a sidegrade, would these be good or should i get something else for that price or less
I have never owned a pair variation so really cannot comment much on that, but based on FR, variations is on the harman/exciting side, but DaVinci is on the smoother side.
This vs hype 4?
Hype 4 has stronger bass. Davinci is better for the money though. If you want to buy something more expensive than the Davinci, buy DUSK.
I've never owned a pair of hype 4, so really cannot comment much on that.
I'm waiting for mine, it will come here next week. I hope faceplate gatcha will be generous.
hope you come back soon!
the sooner, the better
XD
I have a Dunu SA6mk2, would it be a side grade, up or down grade from that to Da Vinci ?
Micro-detail wise, it's a downgrade, since SA6mk2 has very strong sheer resolution and attack on notes, but I'd say DaVinci is a much versatile set due to tuning.
How big is the nozzle size?
I don't have a metre to measure it, but it's as big, or slightly smaller than the nozzle on monarch.
@@catadegen How would you compare it to chu 2 or ie200... I have those so I can visualize it better
@@MatMediaTV I don't have ie200, but comparing to chu 2 from memory, it sounds bigger, bass is more distinct and textured, treble is smoother, vocal sounds more organic, overall a lot more technical as well etc... and because chu2 is a single DD, its hard to compare as well.
@@catadegen thanks!
vs hype 2 that is a 2DD+2 sonion BA at the exact same price ?
Davinci is the best IEM below $300.
@@apothecy4011is it better than Doscinco's for Metal, Punk, and Rock in general?
@@CesarGonzalez-mx7su yeah. Check out the SuperMix4 as well.
I've never owned a pair of hype 2, so really cannot comment much on that.
@@apothecy4011 let's wait for more comparisons to make such a radical statement, shall we ? a comparison to hype 2 and doscinquos is the bare minimum imo
Wow you listen to yorushika too 😮
How is compared to Hype 4
Unfortunately I've never owned a pair of Hype 4, so really can't comment much oh that.
Wonder how this will do against the Moondrop Dusk, since that set is probably the biggest competitor for da vinci right now
??? Dusk is arguably the worst of the bunch (sub $500 category of 2024). The hype4 is easily the best and main competitor of the davinci. EM10 is yet to be released but is said to be slightly better than the hype4. There is also the new pilgrims which are also better than the dusks.
Main problem with the dusk is people say it isnt even worth the full retail price. The analog cable is terrible and the dsp cable is scuffed… app hardly works on android devices and there is no app for ios still.
@@LocallsYTdon't even bother explaining man, you know how Crin marketing works
@@LocallsYT Yh cable and software may be bad, but that has nothing to do with the iem’s sound. Don’t think it’s a good idea to say dusk is bad when you seemingly haven’t even tried it
@@LocallsYT Have you tried the all the iems you mentioned like the hype 4 and pilgrim? If so, how are they better? I haven’t seen any review that straight up said hype 4 and pilgrim are better than the dusk.
@@Rat0713 just curious, what marketing did crin do except making a single shill video like everyone else who has made a collab does? There are people like z review and hbb who even compare their collab iems with other sets, don’t know why people think crin is doing some devious marketing
I love listening to Rnb and soul. Would this be a good buy? if you have spotify or apple music, could you try listening to Let Me Go by Daniel Caesar? I would highly appreciate it.
The thing is, I have no prior experience on these songs, and the sound signature of this set is so forgiving, it's very possible for me to only have good words on my listening experience. In fact, I did listen to it, and it sounds good, but I feel wrong to say "it sounds good to my ears in the song that im not used to, so it's a good buy".
@@catadegen Fair enough. Thank you for this! It's kinda hard to find people that is in this kind of hobby from my country that's why I rely on reviews most of the time. They love speakers, not much on the HP and IEMs side of this hobby.
this or the studio 4
Never owned a pair of studio 4, can't really comment much on that.
1:30 i dont get it why only positives? Is there really nothing else thats bad
I'm subjective. And it's a blessing 3 with a sound signature as I described in the sound part, at $299, I really have no complaint.
Another mediocre V profile? Why can't they release IEMs like the HD650, the HD650 will be anything, except a horrible V profile.
The lows and highs are overrated, what matters is the mids and the more in front the better.
It’s not even v-shaped in today standard, Harman is v-shaped in today standard.
Dusk better
Lol mega cope
how so?