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- Would wearing two blockers lead to more scoring? The NHL might think so! In their research into increasing scoring, they've thrown around crazy ideas like bigger nets and making goalies wear two blockers!
But is wearing dual blockers really detrimental? Let's find out together!
What do you think about the NHL's "scoring problem" and do you think 2 blockers is the solution? Let me know in the Comments below!
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There’s no need for more goals in the NHL, it almost seems as if they don’t care about the GOALTENDERS!!!
TheTendy 1 or penalties
league per game per team averages are over 3 for the first time in over 20 years. goals are up, they need to relax
The need for more goals in hockey is such a ludicrous idea. I love games focused on goalies playing really well. Whenever I have the chance, I sit right behind the net ❤️
If they make us wear 2 blockers then I’m gonna use 2 sticks
knew that was a full right blocker when I saw the unboxing, nice job flipping the video
Ha, all you FR guys are super perceptive!
I’m full right. almost impossible to find colored waffle or mitt. So i’m stuck looking like frosty the snowman with my all white everything.FR probs
this reminds me of one of the first times I ever played goalie for my team. one of the craziest games of my life. we only had enough players show up for 2 extra men, so we were dead tired the whole time, and winning. then our goalie decided to get in a fight with 5 minutes left in the second period. I volunteered to stand in the net with the stick, trapper and blocker, and play it out until we could get to the end of the period. craziest game ever. we actually started to lose our lead by the end, but then buddy from the other team attacked the ref and the police were called and that was that. good times.
how can you play goalie with no waterbottle
Hahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂
How hard was it not to turn your hand to catch the puck???
I was worried about that, but I think I only turned my hand out once...
My thots exactly!
I’ve seen this our other goalie was in she at some point lost her stick and out of Instinct used her empty blocker hand to catch the puck it nearly broke her hand. It was a bruised mess for weeks and she had pain whenever a puck would hit her stick for even longer.
Coach: Shoot Blocker Side
Me: WITCH ONE
Ha, totally!
I’ll stop playing and probably watching if the new standard is two blockers. The NHL has to stop messing with the game. There’s enough goals and a nice save is just as exciting as a nice goal.
They already messed up the record books by awarding the goaltender a win from a shootout win. It should be a tie after OT!
Thanks for your comment! Don't even get me started on how they've already fundamentally changed things. Like how some games are worth 3 points instead of 2?
I think they should go back to leg pads with no knee stack. I think it's cheating just like having too much curve on your stick
double blocker is dumb, leave the goalies be, I prefer the intense 2-3 goal games, having too many goals just isn't that exciting, this isn't basketball its hockey.
Double catchers is fun .. check out kaukalopallo! Was very popular here in Finland a few years back (i moved here from Canada a couple years ago) I've tried a few times, really helps develop mobility/movement skills as well as balance..
I really appreciate your experiments. This is a Very interesting video, and I love the on ice talking.. amazing. Thank you!
IMO a 2-1 or 1-0 game is way better then a 10-8 game
Ryan B basically a lacrosse game when it reaches 10-8 😂
Jerry Utt that’s a touchdown and extra point with a field goal vs. touchdown and 2 point conversion
Dude, I loved this vid! Every week I look forward to seeing what you are sharing with the rest of us. Keep it up.
You're the guy I have a question for.. When I was growing up as a goalie 75/85.. we cut the angles down we stayed up on our skates Of course there were reasons that we went down a deke or in traffic trying to see the shooter in a screen.. When the puck was in the corner we would hug the post standing. It would cover the whole side Unlike todays goalies covering post on knees causes the the goalie to leave top corner open near there noggin.... Now a goalie on his knees trying to catch a shot to the top corners has to locate and reach up..its quicker for a goalie standing to move left or right with glove or blocker And now you have secondary body parts to back you up Shoulders elbow etc.... I Watch nhl goalies game after game giving up goals on ave. 2 a game just being in the wrong position on their knees... May I ask when did this kneeling position become state-of-the-art norm.....ty .. Sit back and watch a few games and and it'll blow your mind..love your show... ps. I know back in my time seventies and eighties there was the other extreme goalie the floppers gerry cheevers Eddie G etc.. If you are lucky enough to be able to be consistent as a flopper It was exceptable by management. But the majority of goalies couldn't handle that type of style....
Awesome stuff Wayne 🤘🏻 2 blockers sounds like a horror movie for goalies lol
Ha, that's what I though it might be when I first stepped out on the ice!
😂😂😂👍🏻
If they are really serious about creating more goals, they should reduce the height of the thigh rise on the top of the pads, and eliminate the thick landing pad on the medial knee side of the pads. I quit playing in 2001 due to age. My pads were typical for the mid-90’s; they had a protective pad on the medial side of each knee, but you couldn’t close the 5-hole and slide laterally like goalies can now. Watch games in the 1990’s and see how goalies had to play, compared to how they play now.
3:54 look at the bench 😂
I thought I heard on 6DMM podcast that back in the day before the curved sticks there were goalies that played with two blockers and at least back then it was kind of an advantage, but the play is totally different now
I think you're right that early goalies basically wore more heavily padded player gloves. Then again, shooter really couldn't get the puck much higher than knee height!
That guy on the ice grabbing the other guy's stick at 3:56 hahahah no doubt all in good fun
Ha, I didn't even notice the shenanigans on the bench! I think they are cousins!
The NHL doesn't have a scoring problem and the trapper has been apart of the game forever and shouldn't be removed.
It's great seeing another goalie as short as me playing!
During the alumni game at the winter classic in philly 2012 a goalie had a blocker on both hands but one had a miniature glove in it. He could turn his wrist over anymore so they made a hybrid.
Id have been worried about the first skate with a second blocker, being in a stress situation and turning my hand over to catch the puck - breaking some fingers. Great experiment. Changed my thoughts about the idea.
Thanks for your comment! I did intentionally choose a skate where I thought there wouldn't be any howitzers for this reason. But I was more aware of turning my hand over!
You are braver than me. I would totally have the blocker facing the wrong way. My muscle memory is set to present the inside of my left arm in most daily situations.
At the 2:50 mark you mention the "old school instinct" to move the body out of the way; not sure I agree. Unless you're deliberately going for a windmill-type save, if a goalie has to move their body away to get the glove into position, I'd suggest that their C/A is too bulky and doesn't fit right.
At 3:36, as you move left, it looks like you're opening your blocker up and exposing your palm before the shot was taken, like you would with a trapper.
As for the NHL's approach to handcuffing goalies, before we get to 2 blockers, I think they might opt for a modified trapper that can't close (like Lundqvist's) paired with a shallower pocket--that would allow easy covering of the puck but would also create more rebounds if the trapper's face were more rigid and it doesn't require re-raining the catching arm muscles.
Finally, you are able to talk way more coherently during a game than I can. Thanks for the interesting video.
Great points as always! Interesting with trapper modification. That'd be one way to do it!
One thing I wanted to touch upon that didn't make it into the video was body mechanics and range of motion with regards to how we utilize our different gloves. And also the effects of blocking vs reacting. For me personally, I still struggle with that "moving my body out of the way" to get my hands on shots (as a grew up with no formal training). But all of that could be a whole different video!
It's funny with exposing my palm, I deliberately kept my solo blocker hand in a fist in an attempt to disrupt my muscle memory. It actually worked out pretty well as I think there was only 1 or 2 times I caught myself turning my palm out!
As always, thanks for your thoughtful insights!
I can guarantee 2 blockers will increase scoring.... less stoppages in play and more rebounds can only lead to more goals.
@AKN Born I don't recall advocating for it...
This is at the Flynn rink in Andover
Ryan Losolfo dude I have seen u on so may vids
Philips
Oh Phillips academy
Interesting theory... As for NHL Scoring, LEAVE THE GOALIE ALONE! More shots should lead to more scoring. I've been saying for YEARS, add a SHOT CLOCK to the game. Once in the offensive zone, it counts down. Would force more shots, maybe not so much time wasted in the zone looking for that perfect shot.....
Not a bad idea
Great point about a Shot Clock! There say how they don't want hockey to be like soccer and a shot clock would definitely speed up the game. I'd be interested in seeing the NHL test a shot clock! Thanks for your comment!
That sounds terrible. Players have enough to worry about while on the attack. Plus goalies would cheat for the shot more way more. Teams also rarely stay in the offensive zone for more than 20 seconds anyway. The game isnt broken or needs to be fixed.
@@zachbell2485 Maybe just a shot clock on the powerplay?
I agree with some of your points Zach Bell, the game isn't broken, and if they left it alone, I'd be fine with it. However, that colossal DB Bettman insists on keeping up changes. With that in mind I suggest a shot clock. Changes to goalie equipment have not had the desired effect, and I believe further changes would not create said changes. I think the shot clock should be 15 or 20 seconds. The theory being it would put an end to the ceaseless cycling and searching for the perfect setup. There would be A LOT more shots on the goal with scrums for rebounds. A built in sense of urgency. As a goalie, it sounds like hell honestly, but the game overall would be more exciting IMO if the theory pans out.
Ringette goalies sometimes wear two blockers. I prefer wearing a catching glove, but I throw the ring with my blocker hand by whipping my stick under my catching arm and picking it. You get used to grabbing with a blocker since you don’t freeze the ring, you have to throw it
In my opinion (as a goalie) I feel like it is a safety hazard to have two blockers. When you try and freeze the puck with your hand, it will be completely exposed to hacks and slashes. It is what forwards are supposed to do. But just think of how many broken hands there will be every year when people are hacking at an unprotected hand. They would have to make a big change to the design for it to work.
Fleury are you the real Fleury
The Almond 🤦♂️
Nathan DeRoche
I know
The Almond lol
Found your channel from this Vid... sub'd. Great content. Keeper 4 Life!
Why would a former NHL goalie advocate for getting rid of the trapper in the first place. Makes no sense. Thanks for the video.
First of all, look at the comments for the unboxing video, I called this video out. I also love that you mentioned InGoal Magazines podcast, I listen to it too, and I love it! Third, I never considered all the new stick handling possibilities that would come with 2 blockers. Interesting insight. Overall though, I agree with you, two blockers is not the answer to the made up "scoring problem" in the NHL
Hey bud, too bad you aren't playing anymore to try it but.. i recently tried kaukalopallo here in Finland.. it's played on ice with a ball and shorter sticks .. and for us goalies the main difference is using 2 catching glove and no stick! Most fun ice had on the ice in so long! Reminded me of my old ball hockey days 😁 Really helped me strengthen my foot movement and mobility also!
3:40 Give your defenseman a beer for that!!!
I tried two blockers as well, but I would put it forward to cut the angle, just as I would with a catch glove. But in order to keep to square to the puck, I had to bend my wrist in an unnatural way, and it was not comfortable at all. Ended up returning to a normal set up real quick.
Sandugash if they ever seriously decide to do two blockers, they’d have to switch the catching hand blocker to be on the palm side, that would ease up on the wrist, it would have to be completely redesigned I think haha
Great points! It was strange because looking back, I had a hard time positioning the solo blocker and then I realized that my primary blocker position is related to my stick positioning, so it was like a mental block figuring out how to hold the solo blocker. Thanks for your comment!
@@fischerthompson1916 Good point But then if I understand well what you are describing, stickhandling would become even much harder than with a catcher.
*Scoring chances and back and forth action is what makes hockey exciting, not the number of goals. That's why OT is so exciting, cause 3 on 3 is fast back and forth action with quality chances after quality chances.*
If the NHL keeps pushing more scoring I’m just gonna start watching the KHL. I think we’ve already hit the sweet spot and should keep it steady from here.
The ideal way to use a second blocker would be to have the non-stick hand using a field hockey blocker, the blocking side is on the palm so it's a more natural position.
Dude, that blocker save would have totally been a sick glove save windmill!!! Good video though, especially trying to debunk the myths. Keep up the awesome work man.
This is great ! I don’t even watch hockey but since you’re talking and playing makes it way more interesting
The need for more scoring in hockey is completely motivated by Money.
its interesting. I think a lot of goalies cheat to their stick side subcouniously, because they like to make glove saves. It would certainly change how goalies play (Im not advocating it, just discussing). Personally, I always found it harder to score high stick side, maybe due to this.
Just under 11 minutes...great save! Had to watch it 3 times! Now...if 2 blockers was just the way things were I’m pretty sure we’d just adapt. No way I’d be happy giving up my glove, though. It’s always been the strongest part of my game.
great video, maybe next game try and use two gloves, would be hard to hold a stick though. also how tall are you? seem pretty small for a goalie such as myself
Just came across your channel. Fantastic! I look forward to more
Thanks so much!
This is amazing!!! I have thought of this before and I’ve always wanted someone to do this.
Thanks so much!
Dude's just monologuing while playing, absolute legend
Hockey players at my drop in are so cocky and judgemental and it makes me feel anxious/ like an imposter which is probably the same for all goalies so having the balls to play with two blockers is awesome
That was an awesome video! I love it!
Thanks so much!
Love your videos, adds a new perspective to hockey
I don't see a scoring problem anymore. In tonight's 12 games, the average goals per game is 5.42. That's plenty.
Totally agree!
I'd feel so bad for all the goalies out there if the NHL randomly decided to make them wear 2 blockers. It's already hard enough when they decide to change pad sizes and stuff. You practice your whole life a certain way only to get screwed by equipment changes. What about goalies with a hot glove hand? Now their skill they worked so hard to earn is worthless
It's like making a picture in baseball always throwing straight or something. Removing the field goal kicker in football. I guess! 😳
I listened to the podcast this week, what I thought I heard was that Ranford thought that today's goalies might as well have two blockers on since the catching glove is so stiff and so large, goalies are just dropping and blocking anyway.
If anything make the leg pads narrower. Huge pads where 6’5 goalies just slide around on ice and block shots is ridiculous. Narrow leg pads and force them to skate. Chest protector should avoid injury and reduce pain but otherwise be very taught. A max jersey size should accompany chest protector. Same thing, trapper should prevent injury not be any bigger than that.
I think it is more about less whistles
Next try it with two catch gloves!
The one glove save is often what triggers the desire to be a goalie in the 6-7 year old kid that tries it for the first time. My goalie son that’s bantam still remembers that one glove save he made when he put on the pads for the first time at 7.
Also players have so any opportunities to be creative and make plays and goals worthy of highlight reels and big celebrations. The nice glove save is often the only way for goalies to show off a little and get crowd reactions. I think it’s important to keep that.
Great point! There really is no other feeling than a great glove save! I mean, there's a reason it's always the goalie's defining moment in Hollywood, right! Thanks for your comment!
Wish the drop ins at my rinks had referees
Refs are definitely great to have!
In my opinion (and maybe Im biased because I’m a goalie and think shutouts are the most exciting) but high scoring games get really boring really fast! I just watched a Midget A state final and it got to 5-0 in the first period! That effected pace of play SO MUCH. The losing team was out of it, they all quit trying, and the winning team let off the gas so not to run up the score. My beer league game was more exciting!
I could also see 2 blockers leading to more injuries for defense and goalies alike, mostly goalies. With added rebounds, there will be more scrambles in front of the net which leads to pushing a shoving and usually someone being pushed on to the tendy. Ask Rask about that.... or really any goalie...
Stop punishing goalies for getting better at stopping the puck. Maybe it’s not the one stopping the puck.... Maybe, just maybe, it’s the ones shooting it?
I totally agree! There's really nothing more exciting than a close play off game, where you know that the next goal could win it! Especially in a low scoring game! Otherwise, it feels like basketball... Thanks for your comment!
Also means more rebounds which means tired players and more bad line changes both leading to more mental mistakes that would lead to more goals. Could probably lead to more icings as well.
Do you find it distracting when you film yourself and talk through a game. You seem pretty focused on game and with the talking to us during video. Im very impressed.
I actually have an mp3 player and earbuds i put in my helmet so during games that i cant get my head in the game, i turn up the tunes and helps me relax.
Thanks for asking! I've actually been working on this for a while now. When I first started, there was no way I could talk and focus on the game at the same time. And even now, if the play is intense and my puck focus is high, it's challenging. As this was a fairly relaxed skate, it was easier for me to do both.
How's your injury status and hockey status overall? Playing again soon?
IDEA
*TWO CATCHING GLOVES*
Ha, that is an idea...
@@VOGoalie I would love to see that video
Good idea for a video. I can't believe people didn't mention it.
The NHL doesn’t have a scoring problem. The fanbase and the NHL are simply unwilling to accept that goaltending is an athletic position now. Goalies should not be penalized by the league for their skill, you don’t see people saying “let’s take away Connor McDavid’s stick and make him play with a mini-stick, to make the league more fair”.
The counterargument to this is probably that Gretzky without the benefit of any modern sports science (so using the same 1980s workouts/diet, and playing pretty much the same way he did back then) would still be a top center in the NHL.
Meanwhile the best goalie from the 1980s would most likely make it to the AHL at best without a totally new technique.
Also, making McDavid play with a mini-stick would be an unfair comparison. More accurate would be making him play with a WOODEN stick. You know, exactly like the MLB does in pro baseball. So there's actually a precedent to making athletes use inferior equipment in pro sports, and that is all the NHL has done to goalies this season: Making them use pads that are normal sized pre 2000s.
Absolute mad lad
More scoring? Call more penalties, and hand out harsher punishments for dangerous plays. That'll cut down on concussions, and either increase the number of powerplays, or increase the speed of the game. To me it seems obvious, yet the NHL seems determined to keep stripping goalies of more and more equipment.
I totally agree and think there are other ways to promote scoring and/or a faster paced game. It's just easier to target goalie equipment. And as it has historically been done in the past, there's even less barrier now.
Nice video. Good concept to test out.
That's like making the goal bigger in soccer / football. Been fine fore 100+ years
Maybe we will see Ringette Goalies getting spots on NHL teams... Check out Ringette, you use a blocker on both hands so you can pick up the ring. My son plays both, watch for him when the NHL makes the big change. LOL
This was awesome! Unique video
awsome video. IT would definately be awkward to have to wear 2 blockers, i say to the "scoring problem" its up to the players to get better and find better ways to score, another thing too is that the nhl has evolved defensive strategies so much over the years , that has lead to the lower scoring in todays game,
Great point about the evolution of defensive systems. Maybe the NHL should blame the Trap!
Cool vid man! I hope the NHL keeps the glove, I mean I'm happy when my penguins keep er to a low score game!! Like we need more excuses why the gosh darn puck went in!! Really cool video though love your stuff!!
Thanks! I think the NHL really can't implement such a dramatic change, but it was definitely fun to play around with it!
How would the goalies stop play easy
I enjoy a tight game with great goaltending.
I really don't think so!!!! But tenders are pretty adept at adapting!!!
Who’s your favorite goalie? Mines Martin brodeur. Well... I am a devils fan. But yeah what’s your favorite goalie?
you mentioned having a medical condition limiting your play... i myself have a medical condition too, i started out playing goalie playing standard stick in right hand and glove in left... but in 2004 i was injured in Iraq giving me problems and loss of range of moment in my left arm, so when playing goalie it left my whole left side wide open, so i went to full right with my blocker and stick in my left hand and glove in my right and have actually been able to up my game in many ways... better stick handling for one because i play out as a righty so it feels more natural to handle the puck as a full right... also most goalies are not full right so i find them shooting right into my glove side thinking they are going blocker side... it was hard ar first to switch but was able to do it
Wow, thanks for sharing! Glad to hear that you were able to make the transition! Maybe I'll have to try this myself and "journal" how it works out! Thanks for your comment!
Nice saves towards the end
I don't know if you still watch for these comments but I'd be afraid of reaching out to catch the puck with an unprotected hand. IMO the stick kind of keeps that blocker in position but without the stick you can easily rotate that hand out to a natural catching position, which would be bad even on the weakest of shots. Watching this video is going to give me nightmares.
Im trying to figure out what the nhl is after. No one likes a breakaway-fest. The last team with the puck should not be the winner. It sucks because goaltending is a major part of the game. It seems like if they really want more goals (stupid idea anyway) increase the size of the net or make the scoring zone an arc to increase the challenge to cover. We should be finding a way to improve the capability of the tools not make it more difficult. Finally, it should be hard to get a goal. That way, there's something worth celebrating
Thanks for your comment! I think the NHL has plateaued with how they can "increase" scoring. My personal opinion would be to move to Olympic size rinks, but that will never fly. It's like mobile phones, there were huge advances then they peaked and now any changes are small by comparison.
I don't know if making it bigger would help. Making it smaller would create a challenge. I don't know if you have ever done a 3v3 on 1/3 ice, but it is intense. Exhausting but intense.
What mic do you use when you’re in net?
normally lights cause seizures but those lights on the scoreboard having a seizure
Amazing video
I really like this guy
I just got my full time Stinky Socks goalie jersey. Glad to see you got a legit goalie number while I got the most obscure number possible. Smh. Still a nice Jersey tho.
Nice! The single jersey is nice to have, although it is a little big... My number is only 3 away from Officer Bob's!
StinkySocks?! Are you in MA?
Let's see an in the bag video please.
Just looks hard to score on you
Was hoping you would use 2 sticks :'D
Ha, how would I paddle down!
@@VOGoalie Idk man maybe try paddle up?
Sooooo, do we get a video with 2 full right gloves????🤔🤔🤔
I've thought about it, but have a feeling that I would just be terrible...
VOGoalie but think of the windmills! #DoubleWindmillWednesday
There’s a ref in our league that would have NOT let you play that way. Lol. Seriously! Funny that ref was clueless.
Ha, my league is fairly relaxed so I don't think it was all that noticeable!
I don't think that there is a goal scoring problem in the nhl. There is a problem inside uncle Gary's head
interesting. by the way, which mic do u use to attach on your mask/chesty? 😬
Thanks! I have a video coming up where I talk about all my camera and audio gear, so stay tuned!
VOGoalie Cool 😎. Will do. Thanks :)
Didnt somebody use 2 blockers in the alumni game a while back? I think for the Blackhawks?
That was hilarious but informative
More saves=more excitement and that is what the nhl should do.
Agreed! Thanks for your comment!
So all and all how do you like the g3 blocker over the g4 blocker ?
I actually prefer the G4 blocker. I like the side wall design better as well as the reduced inner wrist pad design. The G4 blocker definitely has more mobility.
VOGoalie ok, I commented on your last video when you unboxed the blocker. I just bought the g3 sr leg pads and the g3 pro blocker. Just wanted to get your input on the difference between the two. I have the g4 sr catcher and really like it, I got the g3 gear just because I needed new gear and it’s what I could afford if I wanted new pads and blocker. Keep the videos coming it’s always good information for us goalies out there. It was your videos and one other guys videos that got me to go with warrior gear.
The G3 line is also great! When looking at Warriors latest lines, the G3 was the biggest leap in improvements over the G2. And actually, I could probably just swap out a G4 blocker palm in my G3 and that would suit my preferences!
Lets go back to 80 and 90s equipment then and same i have eye pressure issues and cant wear contacts or get surgery so i got the nickname blind jedi by the guys ... but i agree with the comment below me the game is fine as it is and we did not need to make the size change in gear