Growing up playing in the '70s and '80s, the game was very different. Coaching in the '10s and '20s, we all need to embrace the new direction. Your videos are invaluable to that end. Keep up the good work.
Thank you. I’m really trying to elevate my beer league skills (no joke) since I started skating well into my 30s. This helps me conceptualize positioning a better
No shame in trying to get better! Especially with how much you gotta drop on beer league. I know the wins and points don't matter, but if I'm going to have a hobby, I may as well work to get better at the skating and the hockey part. Someday...I'll be able to stop on the left side!
On all the beer league teams I have played on, the break out has always been the weakest point. I hear guys say "we need to score more" ... well ... break out better, and you will get a lot more chances.
@@mhicaoidh1amen to that! Used to play in a developmental league with a coach who preached this. Most guys would go back to their teams and keep doing what they’ve always done. Other observations are that beer league wingers rarely go to their points on D zone faceoffs and no one seems to want to screen the goalie.
I’m an intermediate player and these tips make a lot sense! As a winger, boxing and a quick outlet pass to my center is bread and butter. It woks so well and the breakout is fast, which also can lead to an odd man rush if you get a jump into the play.
Used to play right wing as a right winger...and now playing left wing. Yes, it seems to work much better to take the outlet on the forehand....and protect the puck from the pinching defenseman. If I'm pulling the attention of the forecheck on the defenseman, then I often pass the puck back to the defense....giving the defense more room for another outlet. If the pressure is mostly from behind, then I either bounce it off the boards and past the blueline...or feed a breaking out centreman.
Really instructive! I like the idea of the center a bit lower than the traditional ‘up ice’ positioning. Also like the 45 degree pass to the center down low. I hate that some coaches eliminate 1/3 of the ice. We’ll done!!!
Thanks a lot for these videos and i hope more are coming. They are helpful from Pee-Wee to the beer leaguers who want to do better at the local pick-up. Very appreciated.
This is perfect and will be added into our video review this week. Boys are struggling with the pinch right now and I love the concept on the strong side boards
Thanks for telling me I don’t have to hold the goalie’s hand. I thought I was “doing the right thing” by staying near the post. Makes sense to be engaged, helping out, or providing a passing option. Thank you!
You’re welcome…it simply just depends on who has possession and how strong that possession is. Your basically reading if you should be a pass outlet, help in a battle or defend
Great video, agreed about the winger coming up backwards, in today's game thats not resulting in death. also as someone thats been hit a lot, i would rather flop forward than turn into a brick wall and fall back on my head
Excellent video. Thanks and appreciate your excellent coaching style. Any chance you could make a video on a) best practice options for forwards entering the zone and b) positioning and options for forwards and defense to hold the offensive zone?
I agree with all points, except there is one consideration on the center lane pass on the breakout and that is how likely your center is to miss the puck. With my players it happens about 50% of the time unfortunately. I instruct the D to make the pass hard from there so that it is more likely to exit the zone if missed.
The art of catching passes (good & bad passes) has been somewhat forgotten. I think you’ll see alot more information on pass reception theory & training in the near future.
I Appreciate your videos and the time it must take to put them together. The perspective you give; What doesn't work, What does and when. It's much easier to see and remember compared to ~~~~X's - - - - > O's Thank You
Unfortunately I don’t share everything…I do have to protect my lively hood somewhat. Apologies on this I will be sharing a bunch of drills on the coaches site global skills showcase if you want to tune in for that ☺️
On the second oilers breakout, Yamamotos play on the boards resulted in him getting an assist. It just goes to show how a good break out will get you one the scoresheet. Every little play matters.
Great videos. Rather than freezing the frame it would be cool if you could play it in slow motion frame by frame so we get the idea of the momentum of the play as you are speaking about it. Just an idea.
Great breakdown! I agree with you on 3) Winger Positioning. I don’t think that is controversial at all for a smart, efficient team concept. When watching the game, I often see turnovers occur during breakouts as defensemen and wingers are bunched too close together in their DZ, resulting in one player possessing the puck, feeling the pressure from a forechecker and making a desperate pass to that nearby teammate. This usually is an errant pass, into their teammates skate, and is prime for a takeaway. It is making a bad situation worse. The winger creates more space for their team to breakout and balances their team transitioning from offense to defense. My biggest pet peeve watching a game is when a player makes a seemingly lazy backhand pass in a clearing attempt or breakout, which doesn’t clear the DZ and is prone to a takeaway. Advancing the puck efficiently up ice is critical and turnovers on either blue line will cost you more often than not.
Awesome as always! Just one question though, if not in front of the goal, where should the defender be? Behind the goal for the pass or further up between the hash marks? Thanks
Hi Lars, the Weakside D man will always come back towards net front, once he identifies that his partner is not under heavy pressure he will peel off and be a pass outlet below the goal line. If he gets up too high, his partner will not be able to deliver the puck based on the net being in the way (indirect passing can be used, but you can only get so much angle on it)
I found your comment, its the wave of the future, funny because growing up in the 80s/90s, that's how we were taught. Wingers high, Centre is support low. In the Defensive zone, Wingers take D and D take wingers. Thinks of the old table top hockey games, those wingers never came very low.
Great clip as usual. Funny thing is, as a young man I played as a right shooting LW. And this is not boasting, believe me, but on my line I never seemed to have much trouble dealing with a pinching D, and making the right play- even if it was simply to eat it on the half wall. Yet our right shooting RW, would sometimes cause a turnover and our coach would - well let’s just say - the coach seemed like was on him a lot more than he was on me. And back then, I was pretty sure the only difference between me and that RW was that I was playing off wing and he was not. Lol. Yet no one mentioned anything about that. I think it’s clearly easier to keep the puck safe playing off wing, and that + the benefit of having your stick to the middle in the offensive zone was what I’d always appreciated about playing off wing as a young person. 😀
I agree. It’s easier to see the d-man when you are looking toward the hand on the top of the stick. The other way your head is down. In the o-zone you have a better shooting angle. The belief that right handers (and vice versa) should play the ‘right’ side is outdated. Same for d-men.
I hate playing with centres who don't back check or get low one the zone, bc they are always looking for a break out to score...makes the D n wingers work twice as hard just to get the puck out.
Thanks brother. Good stuff. I’m playing at a higher DIV than I’ve been used to - or rather I don’t have the same foot speed that helped me at 22 (now 42) and so have to rely on more hockey IQ. Same boat as those growing up playing Center - but also played lots of D - so the breakout on the boards , as a now winger, is my kryptonite. I either try to chip it past the D which gets blocked - or try to turn and make a flip up the ice and gets blocked. And this is only if there isn’t the center swing you were referencing. Do you advise taking more time with the puck - ie making a play possibly back to the D if I have no support? Or worst case eating it on the wall hoping for some back-up? I feel like I’ve been ‘lucky’ in spinning and throwing a pass across to the weak side (me being near blue line) but don’t always know how its gonna end up lol
Picture the ice cut in half, a line going the length of the ice from net to net. The strong side is simply the side that the puck is on, if the puck is in the corner that the right defensemen plays, he would be considered the strong side defenseman and his partner is on the weak side.
It's just a tag to identify players. For example you have forwards entering a zone in a drill or play - the first forward into the zone (F1) might be the strong side winger. The next forward into the zone (F2) might be the weak side winger. The third forward into the zone (F3) might be the center. Note - This doesn't mean the winger / center is always this number, they just happened to be the x player in this scenario. Now as the drill / play evolves you use the F 1/2/3 tags to show where the players are / go. And for D's you have D1 and D2.
Growing up playing in the '70s and '80s, the game was very different. Coaching in the '10s and '20s, we all need to embrace the new direction. Your videos are invaluable to that end. Keep up the good work.
Excellent pointers! Realy is simple stuff but easy to forget in the heat of the moment.
This is prob one of the most helpful vids I’ve seen so far
Super useful insights and tips for breakouts. Thanks for sharing !
Just started playing a month ago, im in a D league obviously and they have me playing wing. These videos are great man! thank you.
Thank you. I’m really trying to elevate my beer league skills (no joke) since I started skating well into my 30s. This helps me conceptualize positioning a better
No shame in trying to get better! Especially with how much you gotta drop on beer league.
I know the wins and points don't matter, but if I'm going to have a hobby, I may as well work to get better at the skating and the hockey part. Someday...I'll be able to stop on the left side!
@@aaronwhite1786 man 😂😂😂 I’m working that left side every time I touch the ice. Not there yet lol
On all the beer league teams I have played on, the break out has always been the weakest point.
I hear guys say "we need to score more" ... well ... break out better, and you will get a lot more chances.
Same here.
@@mhicaoidh1amen to that! Used to play in a developmental league with a coach who preached this. Most guys would go back to their teams and keep doing what they’ve always done. Other observations are that beer league wingers rarely go to their points on D zone faceoffs and no one seems to want to screen the goalie.
I’m an intermediate player and these tips make a lot sense! As a winger, boxing and a quick outlet pass to my center is bread and butter. It woks so well and the breakout is fast, which also can lead to an odd man rush if you get a jump into the play.
Used to play right wing as a right winger...and now playing left wing. Yes, it seems to work much better to take the outlet on the forehand....and protect the puck from the pinching defenseman. If I'm pulling the attention of the forecheck on the defenseman, then I often pass the puck back to the defense....giving the defense more room for another outlet. If the pressure is mostly from behind, then I either bounce it off the boards and past the blueline...or feed a breaking out centreman.
Really instructive! I like the idea of the center a bit lower than the traditional ‘up ice’ positioning. Also like the 45 degree pass to the center down low. I hate that some coaches eliminate 1/3 of the ice. We’ll done!!!
Thanks a lot for these videos and i hope more are coming. They are helpful from Pee-Wee to the beer leaguers who want to do better at the local pick-up. Very appreciated.
Really nicely done. I like your direct and succinct style.
Thanks for the message Jason
This is perfect and will be added into our video review this week. Boys are struggling with the pinch right now and I love the concept on the strong side boards
Thanks for telling me I don’t have to hold the goalie’s hand. I thought I was “doing the right thing” by staying near the post. Makes sense to be engaged, helping out, or providing a passing option. Thank you!
You’re welcome…it simply just depends on who has possession and how strong that possession is. Your basically reading if you should be a pass outlet, help in a battle or defend
Love the page pal, great info as always. Keep up the good work!
Great video, agreed about the winger coming up backwards, in today's game thats not resulting in death. also as someone thats been hit a lot, i would rather flop forward than turn into a brick wall and fall back on my head
Excellent video. Thanks and appreciate your excellent coaching style. Any chance you could make a video on a) best practice options for forwards entering the zone and b) positioning and options for forwards and defense to hold the offensive zone?
I agree with all points, except there is one consideration on the center lane pass on the breakout and that is how likely your center is to miss the puck. With my players it happens about 50% of the time unfortunately. I instruct the D to make the pass hard from there so that it is more likely to exit the zone if missed.
what route do you have your weak side winger take on the breakout? straight-ish up ice or across (but higher in zone than the center)?
The art of catching passes (good & bad passes) has been somewhat forgotten. I think you’ll see alot more information on pass reception theory & training in the near future.
I Appreciate your videos and the time it must take to put them together.
The perspective you give; What doesn't work, What does and when.
It's much easier to see and remember compared to ~~~~X's - - - - > O's
Thank You
never learned hockey but I am a passionate beer leaguer. those videos are goooold! thank you so much
Your content is always spot on.
I'd love for you to video some of the drills you use to develop wingers breakout skills, handing F3 and pinching D pressure.
Unfortunately I don’t share everything…I do have to protect my lively hood somewhat. Apologies on this
I will be sharing a bunch of drills on the coaches site global skills showcase if you want to tune in for that ☺️
@@eliteicehockeyanalysisnorc1824 understand. I am a member the coaches site is the best one out there.
Very informative, high quality 10 or 11 minutes.
Awesome video. Some great concepts in here.
Wow thank you for this it was very helpfull. Might even show this my coach 😅😅
On the second oilers breakout, Yamamotos play on the boards resulted in him getting an assist. It just goes to show how a good break out will get you one the scoresheet. Every little play matters.
Great videos. Rather than freezing the frame it would be cool if you could play it in slow motion frame by frame so we get the idea of the momentum of the play as you are speaking about it. Just an idea.
Thanks for the message, I should really find a tutor to help with the editing process…I’m still using the same tech I started with 10 years ago👴🏼
Great breakdown! I agree with you on 3) Winger Positioning. I don’t think that is controversial at all for a smart, efficient team concept.
When watching the game, I often see turnovers occur during breakouts as defensemen and wingers are bunched too close together in their DZ, resulting in one player possessing the puck, feeling the pressure from a forechecker and making a desperate pass to that nearby teammate. This usually is an errant pass, into their teammates skate, and is prime for a takeaway. It is making a bad situation worse. The winger creates more space for their team to breakout and balances their team transitioning from offense to defense.
My biggest pet peeve watching a game is when a player makes a seemingly lazy backhand pass in a clearing attempt or breakout, which doesn’t clear the DZ and is prone to a takeaway. Advancing the puck efficiently up ice is critical and turnovers on either blue line will cost you more often than not.
Beautiful Analysis
Awesome as always!
Just one question though, if not in front of the goal, where should the defender be? Behind the goal for the pass or further up between the hash marks? Thanks
Hi Lars, the Weakside D man will always come back towards net front, once he identifies that his partner is not under heavy pressure he will peel off and be a pass outlet below the goal line. If he gets up too high, his partner will not be able to deliver the puck based on the net being in the way (indirect passing can be used, but you can only get so much angle on it)
@@eliteicehockeyanalysisnorc1824 I only now saw your reply. Many thanks!
Can you turn CC on please, thanks!
I found your comment, its the wave of the future, funny because growing up in the 80s/90s, that's how we were taught. Wingers high, Centre is support low. In the Defensive zone, Wingers take D and D take wingers. Thinks of the old table top hockey games, those wingers never came very low.
The pendulum always swings… What’s old is new again just like bellbottoms 😂👍
Great video thank you
Nice video!
Great Video! What do you use to edit the videos? Thanks
Great video!
Another great video!
Great clip as usual. Funny thing is, as a young man I played as a right shooting LW. And this is not boasting, believe me, but on my line I never seemed to have much trouble dealing with a pinching D, and making the right play- even if it was simply to eat it on the half wall. Yet our right shooting RW, would sometimes cause a turnover and our coach would - well let’s just say - the coach seemed like was on him a lot more than he was on me. And back then, I was pretty sure the only difference between me and that RW was that I was playing off wing and he was not. Lol. Yet no one mentioned anything about that. I think it’s clearly easier to keep the puck safe playing off wing, and that + the benefit of having your stick to the middle in the offensive zone was what I’d always appreciated about playing off wing as a young person. 😀
I agree. It’s easier to see the d-man when you are looking toward the hand on the top of the stick. The other way your head is down. In the o-zone you have a better shooting angle. The belief that right handers (and vice versa) should play the ‘right’ side is outdated. Same for d-men.
Great work
Thanks Josh
i need a video for wing on the face off position in the offensive and defensive zones
Great video! what software are you using to draw this up?
I use Onform and coaches eye desktop, not sure if coaches eye is still available but its worth checking into
Great video
What is so important here is that the center should always face the puck and be low until it moves up.
I hate playing with centres who don't back check or get low one the zone, bc they are always looking for a break out to score...makes the D n wingers work twice as hard just to get the puck out.
I need up my game defensive and offensive as a wingers
Thanks brother. Good stuff. I’m playing at a higher DIV than I’ve been used to - or rather I don’t have the same foot speed that helped me at 22 (now 42) and so have to rely on more hockey IQ. Same boat as those growing up playing Center - but also played lots of D - so the breakout on the boards , as a now winger, is my kryptonite. I either try to chip it past the D which gets blocked - or try to turn and make a flip up the ice and gets blocked. And this is only if there isn’t the center swing you were referencing. Do you advise taking more time with the puck - ie making a play possibly back to the D if I have no support? Or worst case eating it on the wall hoping for some back-up? I feel like I’ve been ‘lucky’ in spinning and throwing a pass across to the weak side (me being near blue line) but don’t always know how its gonna end up lol
What does strong side and weak side defenseman mean? Thx 🙏🏼🙌🏼
Picture the ice cut in half, a line going the length of the ice from net to net. The strong side is simply the side that the puck is on, if the puck is in the corner that the right defensemen plays, he would be considered the strong side defenseman and his partner is on the weak side.
What video editing app do you use for adding graphics to your videos?
I use Onform and Coaches Eye, not sure if you can still get the desktop version of coaches eye but it's really simple to use!
Thank you very much for the info !
What's an F3?
It's just a tag to identify players. For example you have forwards entering a zone in a drill or play - the first forward into the zone (F1) might be the strong side winger. The next forward into the zone (F2) might be the weak side winger. The third forward into the zone (F3) might be the center. Note - This doesn't mean the winger / center is always this number, they just happened to be the x player in this scenario. Now as the drill / play evolves you use the F 1/2/3 tags to show where the players are / go. And for D's you have D1 and D2.
Cool