Mike sillinger played 1000 games and had over 500 points in the nhl, and a dozen teams wanted him on their squad throughout his career, and captained multiple squads. Doesn't sound too embarrassing to me
@@darthandeddeu Are you claiming that he had a no trade clause in those contracts? I'd say being traded so many times can be embarrassing, as it's a hassle and generally a negative. That has little to do with his formidable NHL career however.
Doug Soetaert has a Stanley Cup ring. Something a lot of goalies can't say. Mike Sillinger earned $17.5 Million during his career. Not so embarrassing.
I think there's plenty of beer league players who would have loved the chance to play over a 1000 career NHL games, even if it did mean moving around as much as Sillinger. It's a lot of relocating, but hardly something to feel bad about.
Sillinger was a fine hockey player ,and 17 years in the NHL????!!! thats not embarrassing to me .most NHL players can only wish they have a 17 year career
@@KDill29 having 50,000 in reserve is more than most people. I’m sure you wanted to seem self deprecating but there are people living pay cheque to pay cheque. Food for thought.
Ken Daneyko played 20 seasons, won 3 Stanley Cups and even has his jersey number retired. He was a stay-at-home defenceman who was never relied on for his offense. I am positive he's not at all embarrassed by how many games he played between scoring goals.
Mike Sillingers record I don't find that embarassing, he didn't get traded because he was that bad because than he wouldn't have played that manny games. But I agree that moving that much must have been a pain for him.
One of the funny things about hockey is how often players get traded. It seems like it happens more in hockey than any other sport (and no, I don't have statistics to back up that intuition)
I have to point out that at 01:51 the photo which is announced as the 1944 New York Rangers shows Red Wing players. But otherwise very good. How about most NHL games or seasons for a player to never taste the playoffs?
The second segment is very weird, because it says that Ken McAuley allowed 16 GA, which would break the previous record and also doesn't match the game breakdown 2 in 1st + 5 in 2nd + 8 in 3rd is 15 (which would also match the first record)...sooooo...what?
I gotta eagerly (and frankly humorously) bring it up. Not only did the Devils have three own goals like you displayed but they also had three washed goals in a game and this was vs Toronto and fans were furious that game
You mentioned the 74-75 Caps setting the record for worst ever season and Greg Joly setting a record for worst plus/minus in a single game. So it is a little surprising you never mentioned that in that same year Caps defenseman Bill Mikkelson set an all time record for worst plus/minus in a season with a an all time low of a -82. Now, a lot of that had to do with playing on a team that gave up well over 200 goals more than they scored. But considering that there's been some historically awful teams since then, it's surprising that no one has come close to that record since it was set 48 years ago..
On the one hand, plus-minus is really a team stat, not individual. On the other hand, any player who's given a plus or a minus is one of only five guys on the ice, so he owns at least 20% of that team stat. What makes plus-minus valuable is that it kinda sorta confirms what we suspected about a given player. The players who we know are good will have a high plus-minus, and the players we never think about have low (or negative) plus-minus.
Here is a record ( I think) Scored a goal while not on the ice. Risto Siltanen flipped the puck into the air and G.T. lost it in the lights. GOAL. Risto was on the bench having completed the line change
The 1944 NY Rangers are an embarrassment? Try any Ranger team since they were first established. The whole organization is an embarrassment…… and this is a non-biased opinion…… LET’S GO DEVILS!!! 😈
Here’s another one: Guy Charron, who played for the Habs, Red Wings, Scouts, and the Caps. He played in 734 regular season NHL games, without ever appearing in a single playoff game. An embarrassing NHL record.
That's NOT embarrassing, that's simply very unlucky - I am pretty sure he did not chose to lose all possible games to deny himself post-season. I am pretty sure his teams helped with that too.
Soetaert. He led in 15 goals in one game. Believe in was January 1962, Don Simmons of the Leafs allowed 11 goals in 11- 0 lose at home to the last place Bruins. Leafs played in Chicago the following night, Simmons in net, Leafs win 2-0. Leafs won the Cup three months later. That Washington team was absolutely horrid. Expansion team and also decimated by WHA signings. Tom Williams was the captain of the Caps during this tenure. After losing nine days, the Caps won. Williams went to his locker, and brought out tin foil miniature Stanley Cup. One time after another long streak, he gave a "motivation" statement to this teammates. "Boys, we are good team, we're just in the wrong league."
I don't know what the reasons were for Sillinger go be on that many teams, but looking at his points and games played, I'm not sure you can say it is embarrassing. Those games played and points are respectable honestly. Adding to that the fact that he was captain and assist captain on some occations would also suggest that he wasn't a bad player or teammember.
J J Daigneault set the record with 10 NHL teams, Vancouver, Philly, Montreal, St Louis, Pittsburgh, Anahiem, Islanders, Nashville, Phoenix, Minnesota (only 1 game). The record was tied in 2018 - 2019 when Lee Stempniak played 2 games for the Bruins making it his 10th NHL team
The goaltender for the Quebec Bulldogs got scored on 16 times against the Habs in 1920, which is the record for most goals in a game by one team. Those 1944 New York Rangers played in Detroit one game and got lit up 15 to 0. Managing 9 shots on goal with their own goaltender stopping 43 of 58 that Detroit peppered his crease with. Ten players scored for Detroit, with one hat trick by Sid (forget his last name) in the largest shutout ever in NHL history with it also being the largest margin of victory. Oh yeah, that game was only 2-0 DET after one period, and that hat trick was performed within the last 8 minutes of the contest.
Mike Sillinger's 9x trade episode reminds me of my dumb little sister being transferred to different schools after 1 or 2 years. The difference is simple. Sillinger has an incredible work rate, while my sister couldn't answer a simple Math or Algebra question
Well there is mixed signals here since both goalies gave up 15 goals, but the 2nd record was the score, not the # of goals given up. However he did incorrectly say the Rangers gave up 16 goals, when it was 15. 15-0 is still the worst loss in NHL history as Minnesota lost 15-2.
When the Devils scored their third own goal, it sure looks like the puck was hit with a high stick (i.e. well above the goal crossbar. Shouldn't that play have been whistled dead right there?
No, because nobody else touched the puck afterwards. Play is only blown dead if the offending team touches the puck after the high stick. If the opposing team touches it, play continues. You can't score a high stick goal on your opponent, but you can on your own team hahaha
The problem with the 1975 Washington Capitals was the whole team. Especially at that time in the n.h.l., first year expansion teams then were beyond awful and took AT LEAST 3 seasons to become competitive, usually more. Calling Greg Joly the next Bobby Orr , playing for a first year expansion team was highly shortsighted on management’s part.
The Red Wings goalie only had to make 9 saves for his first shutout, as his team won 15-0? He could have had a zero percent save percentage, and his team still would have won! It's been said that no one player can make an entire team bad, unless it's the goalie. Here, even the goalie wouldn't have been able to.
To be fair, I don't think that second "own goal" should have been ruled an own goal. It was more of a deflection of the glove. If it did get scored as an own goal, I think that was a mistake.
How about a list of "Best players to never make it in the NHL" (excluding Soviet era players)? First to come to mind: Jody Gage, 16 pro seasons in the AHL (1980-96), over 500 goals and 1000 points, but only 67 NHL games.
Funny how Marty Brodeur had an "iconic" own goal in the 2003 Stanley Cup finals.. AGAINST THE DUCKS! What's up with New Jersey own goals against Anaheim? lol
Daneyko looks at his three Stanley Cup rings and laughs at you. Defensive defencemen prevent goals and win games, they don't score goals (see also: Rod Langway: 51 goals in 19 seasons, 2 Norris Trophies, 1 SC, Hall of Fame). Three own goals, and not one of them on an empty net delayed penalty. Yikes.
"relax and be happy, knowing he's a solid contributor to his team".... with a plus/minus of -56 over 2 seasons. lol I may need to watch that segment again, though, as I'm not clear on how he played for 12 teams but only got traded 9 times.
I have heard many different stories on Kirk McLean and his wife, Leslie's breakup. BUT Kirk was never the same .. A broken spirit, who can bear. So very sad. Keenan got him traded and it was a win.
McLean, the last true stand-up goalie in NHL history. Sure, his career record is under .500, but you don't take a team to the Stanley Cup Finals by being a stiff, and starring one of the best series ever.
So wait what’s the record for most goals allowed? You said the first goalie gave up 15 and that was the record but then you stated the Rangers goalie gave up 16 goals back 1944. So which is the record? And I think your math was off in that Red Wings/Rangers game. You said Detroit scored 2 in the 1st, 5 in the 2nd and then 8 more in the 3rd. That’s only 15 goals. Make this make sense
Isn't your first record actually less than following one? I mean, 15 goals allowed is still less than 16 goals allowed, right? P.S.: Jágr played on 9 teams... ending as second greatest of all time. So, that's not that bad.
Ken Daneyko was an enforcer not surprised he didn't score a lot let's look at some of the other enforcers like Bob Probert and such and see their scoreless goalscoring is not what made Daneyko great
But they kept their number 1 goalie fresh for a 3-2 win in LA a few days later 😂 It really wasn't Soetarts fault anyway, team gave up 5 on the PP, and 2 Shorty's.
Interesting video, but you should more videos to show what you're talking about, instead of talking about it and adding unrelated images and slides. Except for the old records, for which you obviously didn't have the proper vids :P You showed Habs for a while when talking about Rangers-Wings.
Dude, you’re completely butchering “Jolly”. That’s not how it’s pronounced at all, and you even spelled Joly as “Jolly” at one point 🤣 You need to research a bit better.
that makes Crosby, Malkin, Letang Maroon, Kane, Toews as bad as Daneyko because they all have 3 Stanley Cups. So why are they still playing in todays nhl?
I mean in a way I feel like I don’t blame the coach who allowed the goalie to give up 15. I would just hope he talked to him after the 2nd period where he had already given up 10. If I’m the goalie i definitely feel hung out to dry by my team, but maybe if the coach comes over and is like “hey man I know it’s not all on you but I’m thinking of pulling you” the goalie himself is gonna answer. I would hope the coach did that.
Mike sillinger played 1000 games and had over 500 points in the nhl, and a dozen teams wanted him on their squad throughout his career, and captained multiple squads. Doesn't sound too embarrassing to me
Not just that, he had the choice of where to go.
He played the modern business of hockey before it was a thing.
@@darthandeddeu Are you claiming that he had a no trade clause in those contracts?
I'd say being traded so many times can be embarrassing, as it's a hassle and generally a negative. That has little to do with his formidable NHL career however.
Doug Soetaert has a Stanley Cup ring. Something a lot of goalies can't say.
Mike Sillinger earned $17.5 Million during his career. Not so embarrassing.
I think there's plenty of beer league players who would have loved the chance to play over a 1000 career NHL games, even if it did mean moving around as much as Sillinger. It's a lot of relocating, but hardly something to feel bad about.
Sillinger was a fine hockey player ,and 17 years in the NHL????!!! thats not embarrassing to me .most NHL players can only wish they have a 17 year career
and that's 17.45M more than me...
@@KDill29 having 50,000 in reserve is more than most people. I’m sure you wanted to seem self deprecating but there are people living pay cheque to pay cheque. Food for thought.
Ken Daneyko played 20 seasons, won 3 Stanley Cups and even has his jersey number retired. He was a stay-at-home defenceman who was never relied on for his offense.
I am positive he's not at all embarrassed by how many games he played between scoring goals.
This is what happens when people post on things they know little to nothing about.
What happens when people think stats and goals are everything to the game of hockey
When Tom Laidlaw was on Rangers his own teammates used to laugh when he scored. Stay at home d man. I had a #2 Laidlaw jersey.
He's prolly a leafs fan. Detached from reality.
Daneyko was a very under rated player. Mean if you are trying to get to their net.
Fun fact: Mike Sillinger is the dad of Cole of CBJ.
This! Also, Cole was born in Columbus, which makes the story even better. I bought Cole's jersey, hopefully he doesn't move around like his dad
We all knew that
Daneyko did get a hell of a nice consolation prize, though: 3 Stanley Cups and a jersey retirement.
The 1992-93 Sharks were even worse. They lost 71 games (84 game season)
Mike Sillingers record I don't find that embarassing, he didn't get traded because he was that bad because than he wouldn't have played that manny games. But I agree that moving that much must have been a pain for him.
Suitcase Sillinger
One of the funny things about hockey is how often players get traded. It seems like it happens more in hockey than any other sport (and no, I don't have statistics to back up that intuition)
Mike Sillinger had the Letter on his uni... that carries value.
I have to point out that at 01:51 the photo which is announced as the 1944 New York Rangers shows Red Wing players.
But otherwise very good.
How about most NHL games or seasons for a player to never taste the playoffs?
The second segment is very weird, because it says that Ken McAuley allowed 16 GA, which would break the previous record and also doesn't match the game breakdown 2 in 1st + 5 in 2nd + 8 in 3rd is 15 (which would also match the first record)...sooooo...what?
I gotta eagerly (and frankly humorously) bring it up. Not only did the Devils have three own goals like you displayed but they also had three washed goals in a game and this was vs Toronto and fans were furious that game
How's playing on many teams embarrassing? All those teams saw value in your game.
Yeah and he got to experience the different franchises
Sillenger sitting at home pissed at not collecting one of every jerseys
The Bruins scored 3 shorties on the same penalty kill against Carolina in like 1:36 or so
I was going to post this but you beat me to it
I think that Mikes record is amazing. He played over 1000 and has all those jerseys and memories.
You mentioned the 74-75 Caps setting the record for worst ever season and Greg Joly setting a record for worst plus/minus in a single game. So it is a little surprising you never mentioned that in that same year Caps defenseman Bill Mikkelson set an all time record for worst plus/minus in a season with a an all time low of a -82. Now, a lot of that had to do with playing on a team that gave up well over 200 goals more than they scored. But considering that there's been some historically awful teams since then, it's surprising that no one has come close to that record since it was set 48 years ago..
On the one hand, plus-minus is really a team stat, not individual. On the other hand, any player who's given a plus or a minus is one of only five guys on the ice, so he owns at least 20% of that team stat.
What makes plus-minus valuable is that it kinda sorta confirms what we suspected about a given player. The players who we know are good will have a high plus-minus, and the players we never think about have low (or negative) plus-minus.
If you count Toronto and New York twice, Dominic Moore tied Sillinger.
Here is a record ( I think) Scored a goal while not on the ice. Risto Siltanen flipped the puck into the air and G.T. lost it in the lights. GOAL. Risto was on the bench having completed the line change
Nathan Horton scored a goal while not even in a game
The 1944 NY Rangers are an embarrassment? Try any Ranger team since they were first established. The whole organization is an embarrassment…… and this is a non-biased opinion…… LET’S GO DEVILS!!! 😈
Over 1,000 games played for Mike Sillinger and one of the most respected players of the era.
Doesn’t sound like an embarrassing career.
agreed, to me it also means 12 teams wanted him to accept the trade
Here’s another one: Guy Charron, who played for the Habs, Red Wings, Scouts, and the Caps. He played in 734 regular season NHL games, without ever appearing in a single playoff game. An embarrassing NHL record.
ron hainsey was at like 900 before winning with the pens in 2017
That's NOT embarrassing, that's simply very unlucky - I am pretty sure he did not chose to lose all possible games to deny himself post-season. I am pretty sure his teams helped with that too.
at 8:04, the phrase "the Devils put that behind them" was so fitting; I guess they were referring to the puck with "them" being the goalie.
Soetaert. He led in 15 goals in one game. Believe in was January 1962, Don Simmons of the Leafs allowed 11 goals in 11- 0 lose at home to the last place Bruins. Leafs played in Chicago the following night, Simmons in net, Leafs win 2-0. Leafs won the Cup three months later.
That Washington team was absolutely horrid. Expansion team and also decimated by WHA signings. Tom Williams was the captain of the Caps during this tenure. After losing nine days, the Caps won. Williams went to his locker, and brought out tin foil miniature Stanley Cup. One time after another long streak, he gave a "motivation" statement to this teammates. "Boys, we are good team, we're just in the wrong league."
I don't know what the reasons were for Sillinger go be on that many teams, but looking at his points and games played, I'm not sure you can say it is embarrassing. Those games played and points are respectable honestly. Adding to that the fact that he was captain and assist captain on some occations would also suggest that he wasn't a bad player or teammember.
Keep up the great videos
Great? Buddy gets shit wrong all the time. He needs to put more effort in
don't stop making them and don't listen to any haters.
Sillinger: Made more stops than Union Pacific... and there was nothing wrong with this guy
Fun fact: Greg Joly scored the last ever goal at the Detroit Olympia.
People were afraid of Daneyko & Pilon, but it wasn't because of their scoring.
They were using their hands for “other purposes” and very effectively lol
Love this channel, always good content :) keep it up!
J J Daigneault set the record with 10 NHL teams, Vancouver, Philly, Montreal, St Louis, Pittsburgh, Anahiem, Islanders, Nashville, Phoenix, Minnesota (only 1 game). The record was tied in 2018 - 2019 when Lee Stempniak played 2 games for the Bruins making it his 10th NHL team
The goaltender for the Quebec Bulldogs got scored on 16 times against the Habs in 1920, which is the record for most goals in a game by one team. Those 1944 New York Rangers played in Detroit one game and got lit up 15 to 0. Managing 9 shots on goal with their own goaltender stopping 43 of 58 that Detroit peppered his crease with. Ten players scored for Detroit, with one hat trick by Sid (forget his last name) in the largest shutout ever in NHL history with it also being the largest margin of victory. Oh yeah, that game was only 2-0 DET after one period, and that hat trick was performed within the last 8 minutes of the contest.
I remember watching that game live. Anaheim won in a shootout. If NJ I’m thinking “okay we were lucky to get that point!”
Mike Sillinger's 9x trade episode reminds me of my dumb little sister being transferred to different schools after 1 or 2 years. The difference is simple. Sillinger has an incredible work rate, while my sister couldn't answer a simple Math or Algebra question
So how does the 1st goalie open the record with 15 goals allowed. When the 2nd story, you say the net minder there gave up 16 goals....
Well there is mixed signals here since both goalies gave up 15 goals, but the 2nd record was the score, not the # of goals given up. However he did incorrectly say the Rangers gave up 16 goals, when it was 15. 15-0 is still the worst loss in NHL history as Minnesota lost 15-2.
GM: "Joly is the next Bobby Orr"
narrator: "and Joly was out of the NHL by age 28."
GM: "told ya"
When the Devils scored their third own goal, it sure looks like the puck was hit with a high stick (i.e. well above the goal crossbar. Shouldn't that play have been whistled dead right there?
No, because nobody else touched the puck afterwards. Play is only blown dead if the offending team touches the puck after the high stick. If the opposing team touches it, play continues. You can't score a high stick goal on your opponent, but you can on your own team hahaha
The problem with the 1975 Washington Capitals was the whole team. Especially at that time in the n.h.l., first year expansion teams then were beyond awful and took AT LEAST 3 seasons to become competitive, usually more. Calling Greg Joly the next Bobby Orr , playing for a first year expansion team was highly shortsighted on management’s part.
Norris Trophy should be given to players like Daneyko who focus on defense, we don't need another Art Ross for most points.
Sillinger played over 1000 games in the big show. That is nothing to be ashamed of.
How is Mike Sillinger playing on 12 team embarrassing? He wore a C or an A for more than 1 of those teams.
Theo Fleury scored a shorthanded hat trick in 1991
I remember one game with the Bruins and the, then, Quebec Nordiques where the Bruins scored a shorthanded goal 2 men short.
The Red Wings goalie only had to make 9 saves for his first shutout, as his team won 15-0? He could have had a zero percent save percentage, and his team still would have won!
It's been said that no one player can make an entire team bad, unless it's the goalie. Here, even the goalie wouldn't have been able to.
1:51
rangers logo lookin a little similar to them red wings logo
Bruins scored 3 short handed goals in a single 2 min penalty kill against carolina
I took my skate off and tried to stab somebody with it. I'm the only guy to ever do that.
Imagine losing a bet on the devils game because of 3 own goals
To be fair, I don't think that second "own goal" should have been ruled an own goal. It was more of a deflection of the glove. If it did get scored as an own goal, I think that was a mistake.
poor Sillinger, he was so talented that he was trade bait for anyone he played for…at least he went to two teams willingly!
How about a list of "Best players to never make it in the NHL" (excluding Soviet era players)? First to come to mind: Jody Gage, 16 pro seasons in the AHL (1980-96), over 500 goals and 1000 points, but only 67 NHL games.
Jim Agnew. ROCK solid tough D man. I would add Andre Pedan, but he played about 50 nhl games. Vancouver too stupid to play him
Mike Sillinger was popular here in Vancouver.
Content has tons of potential, awesome video!
Funny how Marty Brodeur had an "iconic" own goal in the 2003 Stanley Cup finals.. AGAINST THE DUCKS! What's up with New Jersey own goals against Anaheim? lol
I remember watching that Devils game 🙃
Did they end up winning or losing?
I feel like Ray Whitney is another one of those guys similar to Sillinger who had a long career and played for a lot of different teams.
Daneyko looks at his three Stanley Cup rings and laughs at you. Defensive defencemen prevent goals and win games, they don't score goals (see also: Rod Langway: 51 goals in 19 seasons, 2 Norris Trophies, 1 SC, Hall of Fame).
Three own goals, and not one of them on an empty net delayed penalty. Yikes.
Four shg in one game is mentioned but not the hurricanes allowing three in under two minutes? Lame
I got 1 for ya. How about consecutive first round playoff losses.. 😆 Do you have any guesses???
😂👌🏼
I was hoping the Laffs were the answer....they did not fail me.
@@hockeydad6211 you already knew the answer lmao
Didn't Theo Fleury have 3 shorthanded goals in one game? Thought that was the record in a game not 2, unless I heard you wrong in the video?
"relax and be happy, knowing he's a solid contributor to his team".... with a plus/minus of -56 over 2 seasons. lol I may need to watch that segment again, though, as I'm not clear on how he played for 12 teams but only got traded 9 times.
Contract expires, so he signs with another team
Also your ending was beautiful 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
the goal record is incorrect. Allen Pedersen went 273 without a goal
1000 NHL games isnt embarrassing. 1000 games in the AHL would be embarrassing.
Soetaert won a cup in 1986
I have heard many different stories on Kirk McLean and his wife, Leslie's breakup. BUT Kirk was never the same .. A broken spirit, who can bear. So very sad. Keenan got him traded and it was a win.
McLean, the last true stand-up goalie in NHL history. Sure, his career record is under .500, but you don't take a team to the Stanley Cup Finals by being a stiff, and starring one of the best series ever.
The gifs are unecessary
Lee Stepniak comes close. 10 different teams. 6 trades.
So wait what’s the record for most goals allowed? You said the first goalie gave up 15 and that was the record but then you stated the Rangers goalie gave up 16 goals back 1944. So which is the record? And I think your math was off in that Red Wings/Rangers game. You said Detroit scored 2 in the 1st, 5 in the 2nd and then 8 more in the 3rd. That’s only 15 goals. Make this make sense
Isn't your first record actually less than following one? I mean, 15 goals allowed is still less than 16 goals allowed, right?
P.S.: Jágr played on 9 teams... ending as second greatest of all time. So, that's not that bad.
Jagr played for 9 teams that makes him embarassing?
why is ther little to no volume in this video.
Ken Daneyko was an enforcer not surprised he didn't score a lot let's look at some of the other enforcers like Bob Probert and such and see their scoreless goalscoring is not what made Daneyko great
Hey the leafs hold a very embarrassing title of being the only team to ever lose to a Zamboni driver 😂
Pulling the goalie isn't about telling the goalie they're all to blame. Letting a goalie sit in net for that many goals is beyond pathetic as a coach.
But they kept their number 1 goalie fresh for a 3-2 win in LA a few days later 😂
It really wasn't Soetarts fault anyway, team gave up 5 on the PP, and 2 Shorty's.
Rangers '44 wartime one game record excusable.
Jagr played for 9 Teams and we can the KHL and the Czech league's. I'm just bring a stat nazi right now lol Thanks for the video bud.
Interesting video, but you should more videos to show what you're talking about, instead of talking about it and adding unrelated images and slides.
Except for the old records, for which you obviously didn't have the proper vids :P
You showed Habs for a while when talking about Rangers-Wings.
The Rangers lost 15-0, not 16-0
If you're name is Smith all is possible XD
Sefan noesen is not a defensement
crybabies in these responses
It's pronounced Stefan Noesen(Knee-son).
Seeing NJD struggle felt good as an NYR fan.
Buddin??
can't pronounce (or spell) Joly's name ? how emabarrasing.
PLEASE just show hockey not the other ANNOYING CRAP on your videos.Your videos would be better.
Dude, you’re completely butchering “Jolly”. That’s not how it’s pronounced at all, and you even spelled Joly as “Jolly” at one point 🤣
You need to research a bit better.
Player as bad as Daneyko wouldn´t play in todays nhl.
that makes Crosby, Malkin, Letang Maroon, Kane, Toews as bad as Daneyko because they all have 3 Stanley Cups. So why are they still playing in todays nhl?
This is a hot take. Daneyko was a good defenseman
I mean in a way I feel like I don’t blame the coach who allowed the goalie to give up 15. I would just hope he talked to him after the 2nd period where he had already given up 10. If I’m the goalie i definitely feel hung out to dry by my team, but maybe if the coach comes over and is like “hey man I know it’s not all on you but I’m thinking of pulling you” the goalie himself is gonna answer. I would hope the coach did that.