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- Are Goalies the Worst Skaters on the team? We've all heard that goalies just don't or can't skate. But is that really true? Let's bust this myth and find out together!
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Biggest myths are that goalies are flaky/weird and when I started playing, everyone said that goalies need dull skates because of the shuffling.
So true! Maybe I'll do a video on Goalie Quirks! Thanks for your comment!
Depends on the goalie I liked mine sharpe so I could move more freely but if you get the right sharping you can shuffle side to side no problem with really sharpe skates.
some G's skate sharp & some dull
I like them dull, but not too dull. Like a “slow defenseman” dull. Too sharp is hard to stop and too dull is too hard to get an edge
Goalies are weird. Every goalie I know including myself is weird lol. If you ever meet a goalie who is super out-going, life of the party type, he probably is a sucky goalie lol.
goalies usually are one of the best skaters. not me tho
Ha! Too funny!
Same here. I’m a weak skater but I can move around the crease just fine. I can skate obviously, I’m just incredibly clumsy. Even off the ice. I’ll be standing and for whatever reason, lose balance and have to catch myself. I do it on the ice as well. Kind of funny to watch 🤷♂️😂
Same here
I'm not a good skater, but I am great at goalie skating 😆 crossovers and outside edge turns are not my thing but moving in my crease to get a save. That I can do
Same
I'm not the best skater to be honest I used to play forward and I couldn't keep up, but now that I'm a goalie anytime I play out during a pickup game or something I feel like I'm flying and am way more agile and quick on the ice.
Sweet! Who knew goaltending makes you a better forward! Thanks for your comment!
@@VOGoalie you do know Patrik Laine was a goalie most of his junior years 😊
Totally explains why Laine is so good!
Goalies are fantastic. I love the way they skate and slide about!
Goalie dance is amazing too. Haha.
I’m a god awful skater. I’m great at falling though so butterfly suits me perfectly. Hahaha
Ha! Just wait until I do my Goalie Stick Handling video and see how awful I am at that!
😂
I got to meet the cat with my father at the forum in la back in the day. He spent nearly an hour talking to me and my dad... God bless hockey... thank you bud for the videos..
One of my favorite quotes is from the great Jaques Plante who said his favorite "saves" were the shots that hit the posts because that meant he was playing his angles so well, that's the only thing the shooter could aim at.
My brother was a power skating instructor and made me skate as hard as possible....in my prime in Jr's I was beating some forwards/defense during the skating drills not to mention beating the other goalies by 1/2 the sheet of ice ... thank you Bob wright for all the instructions and work!
Great point! I think power skating for all players is one of the easiest way to improve your overall play! Thanks for sharing!
Honestly man. I LOVE watching your videos. I love how you give in depth insight of everything goalie ! All my life I've always been a forward. And occasionally a defenseman. Only time I tried goalie was when I was a kid at street hockey. And now, largely due to your great videos, I have the desire to try out goalie on ice.
All this to say that you are doing a great job man ! Keep it up !!
Thanks so much for your kind words! Converting a forward is the ultimate compliment! Actually, if you do take up goal, your experience as a skater can be beneficial as you have a different perspective on how plays develop having been in their skates. Hope you take the plunge and let us all know how it goes!
Biggest myths are that goalies don't do anything, they just stand there and waits. All my friends says that phhhhh.
I remember my high school coach 40+ yrs ago telling me if I wanted to make the NHL I had to become both an excellent skater AND puck handler! I didn't have enough all-out talent to get near that far. But he was absolutely correct.
Thanks for sharing! Funny how things that sounded crazy back then turned out to be totally true!
Myth: goalies are pretty much nuts.
I just found your channel. You have a great audible voice. You should be in radio or broadcasting somewhere. Great content with some interesting goalie perspective points of view. Looking forward to checking out the rest of your content. New subscriber here. Keep the videos coming.
Just read your "About" tab comments and it all makes sense...lol.
Ha, totally! While my channel isn't VO specific, I do shoot most videos in my studio (mostly because all my audio recording equipment is already permanently set up...) Thanks so much for your comments and for subscribing!
I would agree with your aggressiveness philosophy, as a smaller goalie my skates are rarely not at the top of the crease 😂 being a smaller goalie I also cant go down a whole lot because I leave the top of the net open
Good goalies are typically one of the best skaters on the team, regardless of how specialized the skating is; growing up I would skate out during practice with all of my teams--I could get into a forward skate and not look like a fish out of water, but none of the forwards could do anything with a goalie boot on.
I’m not a strong regular skater. When I put on regular player skates the rocker really messes with me. I can’t do a cross over to save my life. That said I 100% agree that we have specific movements that are specialized. My edge control, butterfly pushes etc. are all very solid and I find that as I’ve gotten better over the years It occasionally causes me to be a little slide happy as well. I think tossing a gopro in the net is a great way to check technique as well as identify areas that can be improved.
Great point, the rocker on a player skate can throw off your overall balance and stability. And hey, if you can actually butterfly push I'm all ok with being Slide Happy. I mean, it's not called Slide Sad! Thanks for your comment!
This is my first video I have ever seen by you and I already subscribed. That’s a first for me!
Thanks! You just made my day! #VOGSquad
In the beginning the best skater on the team was made goalie. As a kid my coach talked my parents into having me take figure skating lessons to improve my skating. It's also where I learned to fight....kids are mean
I started playing Goalie 4 months ago, which means I started learning to skate 4 months ago as well xD
I wouldnt say im a great skater now but I self taught myself all the skating and goalie movements i do now without amy teachers or any fellow goalies to help out. Just give it time and itll come!
Awesome! Welcome to the Club! When it comes to skating, like Jurassic Park, Goalies find a way! Thanks for your comment!
One myth I didn’t see and have heard, is “they got all the padding… they’re the safest”… maybe I’ve heard that too many times and as a goalie myself, tell that to my nearly broken blocker hand, my 3 times broken ribs, many concussions, many times near blown out knees from pucks and pulled groins and too many (even 1 is too many) cup shots. Thankfully I’ve always worn a goblet so no skates but plenty of pucks to throat and fractured clavicles too… and sticks there along with through mask… I’m done. I love this channel lol. Teach ‘em!
Just revisiting this, what hollow you running in this video? I picked up some new to me skates (x900) and they were cut at 1/2 and man was I slide happy!
I use 5/16" which is pretty deep but helps because I weight in at about 175lbs without equipment.
@@VOGoalie your a savage. I can barely shuffle how long does it take to get used to? I love the b-fly pushes and telescoping but can barley t-push with this cut.
Goalies don’t have to be the fastest in a straight line, but we are typically the most controlled skaters. We also tend to have explosive power. It’s just the way the position works. The days when you put the fat kid or the kid who couldn’t skate in net are long gone. As an added tidbit I keep my skates super sharp. 7/16” radius and I get them sharpened at least once a month. (Very tempted by buy a Sparx sharpener for my work room)
I was also super tempted by a Sparx! As we as goalies always strive for consistency in every facet of our game, having a consistent and regular sharpen would be awesome!
VOGoalie Yeah I agree completely. I am so picky about my skates that I drive an hour one way passing several other places to get my skates sharpened by goalies rather than let someone else touch them.
Nope, as a goalie you have to be the best skater on the ice...
Yeee
*Goalies definitely need to know how to skate, but their skating is specialized (as mentioned in the video) and quite unorthodox, as doing the butterfly is as well... You don't need the same explosive power that skaters need when they go forward, you don't need to know how to skate backwards fast or do 180° transitions like a defensemen or do crossovers. But you definitely need to know how to move laterally quickly, T pushes, shuffling, sliding around on your knees, etc. It's honestly not all that similar... I knew this one guy who joined a beginner team. To be frank, he couldn't skate very well at all. He looked like he was running on ice and wobbling his arms all over the place trying to stay balanced. Then we found out he grew up playing in net (somehow he did that before being a skater, cause usually it's the other way around) but he just wanted to try out being a skater to see what it was like. But when he went in net, he was pretty darn good and his lateral movements were on point.*
Thanks for your comment! You make some great points! For me, I'm so accustomed to the stability of goalie skates, that I look like Bambi on Ice with the way player skates are rockered! Funny you mentioned crossovers! I remember having to do them in skating drill back in HS both forward and back and then never doing them ever again since!
I got called a fish out of water
Hey, as long as your a fish that's flopping like Hasek, it's all good! Come to think of it, if I was a dead fish laying across the crease, I'd still probably stop 90% of the shots I face... Thanks for your comment!
And man if I could slide like you , I'd be showing those gnarly skills off too. #slidehappy
Instant sub! It's like watching Guillame Duclair, if he had a positive attitude and work ethic and actually gave good advice. Seriously though, glad to see TH-cam finally getting some more quality goalie-related content.
Ha, thanks so much!
Plus as a gate keeper, you are skating for an entire 60 minutes a game and not the average 13 minutes for a player on the bench... Goalies are the best athletes on the planet bar none...
Great point! I'd like to consider myself an above 40 something year old athlete! Thanks for all your comments! And who doesn't like Felix Potvin!
Sometimes my team is short and the defense has to "Iron Man" it and play the whole game. I just scoff and remind them that I do that every game. If they're still not convinced how difficult it is I'll let them play a game in net.
Coming back to this I'm always amazed by how deep of a stance you have and how you can move so quick in.
Thanks! I try to get as low as I can which makes it quicker for me to close the 5 hole!
@@VOGoalie I actually am hoping that I will improve my Mobility because I got a rocker profile done on my skate blade I'm going to be testing it out here in a few hours.
I'm not used to that flatter 28 foot profile goalie skates.
Epiphany moment came when I was watching this: th-cam.com/video/DuUz0eATgiQ/w-d-xo.html
I just didn't know what to ask for when getting profiling done.
@@VOGoalie I can't c-cut in stance worth a damn just makes it extra difficult.
Its time to come out of retirement Goalie Jedi style. Like Luke Skywalker. We need you
Hahahaha. Slide happy. Nice shirt. Yes we do skate, just not the way some people think
Ha, totally! And people are so confused when I go to public skates with my Step Steel Extremes! "Are those speed skates?"
@@VOGoalie i would get the same question when I had mine on my old Bauer's Lol
When I was in high school, I always became slide happy towards the end of practice. Just comes with the territory I suppose 🤷🏻♂️😂 awesome video man 👊🏻
Thanks! You rock!
My opinion on slide happy, if you make the save, it works
I hear potential for a new shirt: Slide Happy
Totally! Great idea for the second collection!
Some good advice, enjoyed this vid.
Thanks! I hope it helps some!
The better the skater the better the goalie. That being said, trying to compare goalie skating to that of a forward is like going to compare a formula cart driver to MotoGP. They are not the same thing. The movements are not the same, the positions are definitely not the same and the mentality is significantly different. Look at our gear compared to their gear. There is not one piece of equipment that can be used for both positions. Even the cup is different. Point being, if we compare each other in their area of expertise, we'll get killed. If they try to compete in our area of expertise, they'll make it about 10 minutes before being completely exhausted and good luck with the butterfly.
Your voice is so nice to hear
Omg thank you I didn’t think you’d even see this from how old it is I’m 16 and I’m thinking about starting to play
Im not the best skater but I am wicked fast and wicked talented with high speed moves. Yet I prefer goalie position over my old defence position
I was a player for 15 years. Transition from it to goalie is hard as hell. Always feel daunted when watching video and being a rink rat of both skills and lack of physicality.
I think a lot of it is goaltending used muscles and mechanics that are so different from regular skating, it can feel foreign at first. But with time and repetition, things should get easier. Thanks for your comment!
I'm not very good at slide happy, nor do I skate well. Fun, fun , fun, until I learn to slide happy.
No worries! It'll come with practice! Keep at it!
Nice video 😊 I have heard a old saying that goalie is the best skater in the team. What ever players do, goalie does it in goalie gear
Totally! Every so often a skater friend will try playing goal and then they gain a better appreciation of what it takes to move in our gear! Thanks for your comment!
What other equipment do you use to keep the cam in the net? Like a holder?
Hey, thanks for your question! I just use my GoPro in the waterproof case it came with on a helmet mount strapped to the back bar using Velcro Self Wrap. I'm actually planning a "Behind the Scenes" video where I'll go into my camera setups. Stay tuned!
@@VOGoalie Please do. I am very interested in seeing a video of the setup of your go pro. Thank you.
I'm working on my slides
Hey sweetie, I’m a 12-year-old and in my goalie pads I can do crossovers both ways and backwards. I think my skating abilities in the middle.
Stinky Socks... MA hockey represent!
Old school goalies that stand on their feet or crouch a lot, may actually start off as wingers.
Only thing I disagree with you on here....Goalies should always strive to be the best skaters on the team. It won't be on displace in the same way, but knowing your edges will help so much for the specialized skating. Take the Hinge motion. I do not know players that can pull hat off. Most goalies don't not know how to do that correctly.
If a goalie were to skate out, they should have the ability fundamentally play defense without missing a beat based on their skating ability alone. Stick work is a different story.
How do you get a low stance
Thanks for your question! The best way to get a low stance is 1) work on your leg and lower body strength as it takes more energy to maintain a low stance and 2) get your skates sharpened as a sharper skate/deeper hollow will help you grip the ice in a low stance and prevent slip outs.
VOGoalie thank you 🙏
I keep hearing the opposite.
My son is a goalie. I never played hockey. So, I’ve been relying a lot on the advice from my son’s coaches, and they keep telling me that goalies are always the best skaters, so I need to get him as much ice time as I can.
That's great to hear! It' means that in today's game, there's been a shift in the perception of how important a goalie's skating ability is! I think the myth really is two fold. The casual fan may not understand how important skating is to the position, while those who play the game actually understand. It's also a generational thing. If you watch pre 90's NHL clips, goalie's skating ability seems to be severely lacking. But it's great to know today's goalie youths will be great skaters! Thanks for your comment!
VOG, what cut do you use on your skates?
5/16" hollow on 4mm steel
Actualy 99% of the shot that go wide dont go in cause sometime there may be a miracle bounce off the boards and go in
Also t pushes and t slides
goalies are one of the most important players in hockey lol
I wonder if there is a more scientific way to track a goalie’s skating ability. I mean it’s all about be able to travel a couple of feet as fast as possible and then stop on a dime. Some sort of pedometer maybe? But then again. Butterfly slides, getting up 100 times or more all take leg strength and Cardio which would need to be measured a different way.
Thanks for your comment! I'm sure a group of researchers with the means could devise some form of measurement, but as a VO talent, I think my strengths are just talking about it!
I started playing tendy about 2 months ago. I am a very strong skater when playing Defence. Took me about 5 ice times to T-push good and shuffle to track pucks. Oh and I was also GASSED after 10 mins my 1st tendy ice time HAHA. Its is MUCH more tiring then I thought :) and HOT
Thanks for sharing your experience and welcome to the club! Great perspective from a former skater!
What do you sharpen you skates to???
I have 4mm steel that I get cut at 5/16" hollow. Thanks for asking!
I played in the 70s and 80ⁿs. Goaltending mechanics today are completely foreign to me. However I can't argue against this sliding as it really does seem to take away shots along the ice. One thing I will never agree with is modern goalies won't stand against the post when the puck is in the corner. Hawks won the cup in Philly for that reason.
So true. And Rinne has been victimized that same way in some high stakes games. I think with those low corner plays, the idea is that today's game is so fast, goalies feel like they can get down fast enough for low shots, so instead, make the shooter beat them up high. The problem is every player nowadays can snipe top shelf. Or they don't actually seal the post and the puck squeezes through. But hey, that's what Bettman wants right! But you're right, shots from extremely low percentage areas should never go in! Thanks for your insight!
Is 18 to late to start hockey. I have always loved hockey but i cant skate. I was just wondering if im already to late to learn.
Hey Man, it's never too late to start something new! I started new things in my 40's! If you're brand new, I would start with getting skating down first before diving full into playing goalie in a game, but if it's your passion, you can definitely take steps to get there! Grab a pair of goalie skates and hit up your local public skate!
Thank you for the advice. I think i will give it a try!
Slide happy in G4s. Sounds smooth. Hey VOG how do you set up your camera and do you use any additional protection?
Sliding is so easy in the G4s it's hard not to slide all the time! With my GoPro, I'm using just the case the Hero 4 Black came with but swapped out the back for the open non waterproof back for better audio recording. For mounting, I have a knockoff helmet mount strapped to the center post with Velcro One wrap. Thanks for your comment!
@@VOGoalie that's so dangerous, I will try it with my cheap GoPro knock off. I just feel they will aim for it. :)
Gives me more incentive to make every save! Actually, if they're aiming for the camera, their shots are more along the midline, in theory making saves easier!
@@VOGoalie never thought of it that way!
Goalie can skate you’re the one exception
Thanks... I think?
@@VOGoalie 🤣🤣🤣
Goalies can be the best skaters on the team.
Goalie myth, goalie is easy, you just stand there
Ha, I get that all the time! Sounds like a good myth to bust! Thanks for the suggestion!
VOGoalie haha hate when players say this to me
Cant play anymore and so bummed my hips are shot from the split saves...
Im actually a roller hockey and dek hockey goalie. I have actually speedskated before and can skate really well on inline roller blades, but on ice, i bust my ass without pads on. Lol
Myth ive heard is that goalies are the weakest guys on team.
Love ur vids
Thanks man! Mad props for speedskating! My bro was into it for a while and the first thing they said was "You must've played hockey because you take too many strides!" Thanks for your comment!
I think goalies today have to be some of the best skaters.
For sure! I know I'm always working on my skating in an effort to improve my game! Thanks for your comment!
You skate well bruh
I play a hybrid style as far as skating goes.
I always found that question to be irrelevant. If one of the Oilers goalies can skate better than Connor McDavid then I would suggest that he might be playing the wrong position. The skating skills required of a goalie are so totally different from what is required of a forward or defenceman I find it impossible to compare. For sure though, you can’t be a good goalie unless your goalie skating skills are top notch.
Thanks for your comment! For sure, in today's game it's like comparing apples to oranges when it comes to specialized skating. Suffice it to say, I think everyone today agrees that skating is a super important part of modern day goaltending! And if anyone skates as good as McDavid, well, they'd be the NHL's fastest skater for sure!
The biggest mith I have ever heard is golyes are in fit
I can skate but not very well, will not be able to play in my league but I'm a damn good goalie, that can move, cut angles, and come out if needed.
Thanks for your comment! Maybe the vernacular should be goalie movement rather than goalie skating. Thanks for sharing your experience!
I don’t think goalies need to be the fastest skaters but most good goalies are really good on their edges.
Great point! Edge work is super important. Thanks for your comment!
*What's a hinge movement? I've never heard of that term.*
My understanding is it's when you recover back to the post and swing your body parallel to the goal line. As if you make a save in the butterfly at the top of the crease then recover back to the RVH but then immediately want to go post to post.
When I was a player my coach said to me I have to be one of the best players (from the skating) and then he will let me be a goalie. So from my perspective goalies are better skaters than some players. You have to overthink because goalie skates are heavier than player skates.
PS: Sorry for my bad english. I come from Germany😉🏒🇩🇪
Thanks so much for your comment and insights! Sounds like your coach was right on! I think more goalies would benefit from skating out before committing to playing goal. Thanks for sharing your experience and your English is great!
@@VOGoalie thank you so much! And you're welcome!😊
No we are NOT!
Gotta be good on our feet
To maneuver ourselves
What do you use to mount your camera?
Thanks for asking! I'm currently using my GoPro Hero 4 Black in it's factory housing on a knock off helmet mount. the helmet mount has a slot for a strap, so I run a length of Velcro Self Wrap through it and around the center bar. Easy to install and remove (although the camera is hung upside down so I correct it in post).
I'm slide happy
Ha! I'm starting to think that I am too! Thanks for your comment!
Isn’t the stereotype that goalies are the best skaters on the team? I’ve never heard of the opposite
Super interesting! Indeed, I think that maybe today, the idea that the goalie is the best skater is believed by the majority. From my perspective, growing up with the game in the 80's & 90's, I feel like the perception was opposite. What does everyone think? Thanks so much for bringing up this great topic for conversation!
Best skaters on the ice hands down
I would like to play hockey but my mom said no... not stopping me from starting with it next season tho.
Thanks for your comment! Even if you're not playing right now, there are lots of things you can do to prepare. Go public skating to work on your skating. Watch online videos to help understand the fundamentals and principles. Do off ice training to work your core muscles and stretches to increase flexibility. Take this opportunity to do work now that will immediately pay off once you start playing. Thanks for your comment and good luck!
I will, what mussels should i stretch?
Check out Maria Mountain's Channel for goalie specific training here:
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Wayne I use all pro equipment
You'd be amazed how many d***heads think I can't play. Then I lace up as player and they're like 🤯damn dude.
Ha, it's because player gear feels like wearing nothing at all... nothing at all... nothing at all! Thanks for your comments!
The biggest myth is that goalies are lazy.....
I used to be an offender and I'm a lot faster then some skaters
Love your stance super aggressive and slide happy maybe but in that the more you move the more they watch you to see open net and if you can keep there eyes moving your doing your job and i wish i could be slide happy to conastanlty keep the net shut down like that but i usally have pretty good d in front
Thanks for your comment! I'd take good D over sliding any day! lol! Sounds dreamy!
No...... they should be one of the best skaters!!!! I was a Right Winger before I made the jump to Goal!!!! We play all year round, so I get a lot of ice time as well I play for a couple teams.
that goalies are lazy
I am one
goalies are the best skater
Im insanely by far the fastest skater on my team lol
When I play goalie I’m okay at skating
Ha, thanks for sharing! Your name totally made me chuckle!
I’m a big red wings fan bruins suck
VOGoalie what is your favorite nhl team
Ha, I'm from Boston so... no worries though, it's all good!
VOGoalie that’s funny
biggest myth-goalies are wierd
Ha, funny you mention that! Check out my video on that very topic!
Goalie is awsome
You got that right! Thanks for your comments!
I am a stand up goalie
Goalies need to be good at technical skating. t pushes side shuffles forward and backwards. Having said that doing all those things is a lot easier in goalie skates. The way they are made low ankle wider blade and tip of blade in the rear helps keep you from falling back wards. Also using specific goalie sharping is always a good thing. I use 5/8. But free skating is not or skating the length of the ice is not something we as goalies need to do. Unless the other goalie calls you out 😛
Great points! I go 5/16 on my steel and if I go to a new sharpener, they always ask me if I'm sure... Then I think to myself, if I'm asking for a specific hollow, I'm pretty sure I know what I like! Thanks so much for your comment! And if I ever get called out by the other goalie, I'll forever think of how my skates made me faster!
Btw you should do I video on a rent a goalie. As a former rent a goalie I made some good money for playing the game that I love. What’s your thoughts on it. I mean for all we have to do and how much goalie equipment is it’s nice to know we can make some of it back.
Goiles have to be good at skating
Agreed! Thanks for your comment! #VOGSquad
Do you like Felix Potvin?
in my opinion Im the best skater LOL hahahaha maybe bias
No they should be the best skater