Andrej Karpathy: This Is Elon Musk's Secret To Success.
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Thank you for not adding background music or b-roll videos
Yes, agreed
At last no soundtracks... Nor stock b-rolls, just what's essential with key written highlights added!!! Great job!
Those are so annoying.
Except for the eye roll😂😂😂😂😂
i prefer it with music tbh
The rowing and steering analogy was brilliant. I recently retired from a company that had too many people steering.
Boeing by any chance?
Federal government and government contractors
u mean throwned away by company
I love it! A CEO which actually works and makes his hands dirty to remove hurdles. So the experts can work best at what they can do best.
Ok, let me call Jensen. Thats power and leadership right there
Jensen can tie Elon's shoes bro
And if Jensen won't help, more engineering power will shift to their own Dojo :)
NVidia's company structure is very flat too
I think the difference is Elon steered his company to create the industry. Like ev wasn't wanted and hyped up until Tesla came along, and people just don't think private rockets can make money until start link is sent to space (maybe it still doesn't , not sure)
Whereas machine learning researchers just found out that GPU is really good at doing machine learning because it requires massive amount of parallelizable but simple calculations just like computer graphics.
Not to discredit nvidia, which invested to develop CUDA (which probably enable the researchers to write ML code on top of it). But I just don't think it was a conscious decision and foresight.
@@sheldon987123
I don't know. If that's the case, Google wouldn't have made Tensor chips. In theory, there's a chip that is specialized for AI. This company called Grok (not X) makes special AI chips. If Nvidia doesn't specialize in AI, that's it.
He likes people to leave meetings if they aren't useful - absolutely!
Yup he always was upfront with it in meetings, unlike how other companies have cultivated the "meetings are cool, people that participate in meetings are cool" idea 😂
I agree with removing non-technical middle managers. I have no idea how anyone thinks having them is a good idea. The only ones I can understand having are project managers
Even for project managers, I would 100% prefer a technical project manager any day. In reality, TPMs are a lot more expensive so the luxury isn’t always there so I get why I often don’t have TPMs on my team.
Yeah i agree. Middle men are so useless most of the time and just bloat budgets. At my company all they really do is nag to see how progress is going, even tho my supes already know. All while the "coordinators" kinda just fuck shit up and eat up my time while doing 0 technical work. And yet they get paid more than the technical workers. Its wiiiiild to me.
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He stands out by not adding any useful information to the conversation. It's wild how much content he creates relative to the understanding of the technical matters at hand. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he spreads misinformation or anything, he just doesn't have anything to add. Yet, he insists on giving monologues in most of his videos (thankfully not this one). "This could happen. This might happen. What if this happens?" is a lot less valuable from him than most others in the community. My opinion is that he needs to continue facilitating conversations and talk less.
Imagine a strong engineer going from working for a company like Tesla to going to work for a company like GM or Ford. It would have to be extremely depressing. I am sure that sort of thing is rare except where the person just was not cutting it at Tesla
I have a friend who was let go from Tesla after 2 years as a fresh grad electrical engineer, then he went off to work at Boeing. It wasn't depressing but it was definitely very different if you get what i'm saying
That's been my impression of Musk. He is certainly not the easiest boss to work with, but he's the boss you want if you want to achieve something groundbreaking.
I can understand why some people call him an asshole, because he really can be one. Imagine you making a stupid mistake, him belittling you in front of a crowd, you'd still think he's an asshole for exposing you like that. It's part of the job as big boss. But it makes sure you don't make that mistake again, and hammers a little humility into you, something a LOT more people could have more of.
A lot of Elon's genius comes down to plain common sense that somehow went lost in the smoke, the rumble, the ratty politics of bloated management.
Yeah because common sense isnt so common in abstract societal systems.
We somehow have thus talent to normalise the most absurd things as soon as we form collectives and no one feels responsible while some people with actaul leverage only pursue narrow self interest or are ideologically blinded.
Lots of politicians and bureaucrats in companies these days. Same reason woke has become so common
@@SleepyPaul Been seeing this "woke" term used a lot. Honest question, what is it referring to?
His genius is unimpeded by greed for wealth and power and he's allergic to BS. All Elon wants is results. He's the model of what the opposite of a politician looks like.
@@willv88Woke is something of a catch-all term for any culturally far-left ideas.
Nice cut editing, direct to the point, and with not distractions. Thank you for that video.
Yeah as soon I pick up that a video is click-bait with some long-winded intro I move on. Nobody is gonna live long enough for that
Thanks for uploading this, I wouldn’t know it otherwise
Let me add, ideas are welcomed and encouraged from anyone, production staff can pitch an idea directly to Elon or to other top management, raise your hand with a good idea at an all hands meeting and the response is simply “good idea, done,” and then it is done, super quickly. Lots of the production workers have degrees in engineering, sometimes advanced degrees, so they are not your average line worker at a legacy automaker. The number of engineers at Tesla far exceeds the number of people with engineer positions.
Where did you get this from?
@@theromanmarcus From working at Tesla, raising my hand with an idea at an all-hands..
@tribalypredisposed that's cool, man.
How long did you work at Tesla?
I recall when Tim Dodd of Everyday Astronaut was conducting an interview with Elon Musk, Dodd mentioned something that eventually resulted in a design change on Starship. Elon will use ideas from anyone if it’s a good idea.
@@Oxibase Yep, I remember that moment in the video well. It is the essence of the Musk lead company advantage. Look how completely 1400's married most autonomous companies are to LIDAR, until death do they part. No divorces allowed. And see how many times Tesla rethought and changed how they were getting FSD done. Now Tesla has stuck with vision only, but I guarantee if I brought them something better they would go for it.
You often hear: "Accept the realities" or "this is how we do things" or similar statements in almost all companies. The real reality is that you can change reality. Maybe not instantly, but over time. Most people in most companies want things to stay exactly the same as they are. But that means the company will lose its competitive edge over time. The only way companies can survive is through changing. Versions of the OODA Loop is required in any industry. The faster you iterate, the better.
Disagree. Change just for the sake of change is a waste of everyone's time. I like to say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", but also "if it's broken, bloody well get it fixed!".
@@2bfrank657 Most technical endeavor are hopelessly broken. People use "this is just how we do things" all the time to describe a dumpster fire that is broken six ways from sunday.
It is not about change for changes sake. It is about adapting to new situations and making constant efforts to achieve your goals. It is about constantly evaluating ideas, techniques, models and goals. Not being stuck in your head.
No one can change the laws of physics
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I'm going to work there this summer and I'm excited and a bit scared. very cool though!
I really hope he comes back to Tesla!
Same!
He quit OpenAI so there's a chance.
When Microsoft was a startup with only 160 employees, Bill Gates argued against "technical inversions," where a programmer works for somebody who doesn't know how to program. Now that Microsoft has over 200k employees, that's difficult to sustain. Tesla has over 140k employees; I hope they can sustain their drive, focus, and flat organization.
They're about to be automated into oblivion. I say less than 100 meat-based employees by 2035.
As an admin I hate it that most IT departments are lead by non-IT people. I wonder why CEOs believe that's a winning strategy. It makes zero sense and is unheard of in many other professions. It's unfortunately but not surprisingly the root cause of many homemade avoidable problems.
@@allesdurchprobiert True. People that cannot program cannot be heading those that do.
I mean Elon himself cannot code but he runs the whole company
@@pradhyumna2173 Actually, I've heard Elon can read code and knows the basics. Anyway, my point is that avoiding "technical inversions" is impossible when a company grows beyond the start-up phase.
What a fun video to gather on how the management strategy works at Tesla. Thanks Farzad!
Where can I get that video ok elon explaining about the rowing team?
Super inspiring
The one thing you didn't mention which is perhaps the most profound of all is Elon's rigid adherence to first principles thinking. An important rule that's a result of that thinking is "never optimize something that shouldn't exist."
Adhering to those principles is extremely difficult which is why most companies don't do it.
Could you come up with an example on how you understand this thought? Because I don't quite get in which environment, people spend time on optimizing or even keeping something alive that should not exists.
@@neozes It's a big problem in engineering in fact Musk talked about it at SpaceX. Coupled with first principles thinking, it's a way of approaching design with a level of rigor not typically seen in most companies.
Email is a great example. There are all kinds of apps to optimize email but we don't use any of them because email is a terrible communication tool. We simply don't use email.
@@neozes Oh, I think this is quite common. One example is to create reports that never end up driving any decisions. Then automate those reports by either reporting software going berzerk in Excel.
Thanks! I thought this is related strictly to coding. However, it also feels like a nobrainer for a broader context.
@@neozes Munro & Associates urge companies to create parts that have more than 1 function/use. Tesla - in contrast to many other companies - actually listen to Munro's advice and implement their suggestions accordingly. Good examples are structural battery packs in EVs, Tesla's octovalve and Tesla's gigacasting machines. Having parts serve more than 1 purpose is also first principles thinking. By merging a structural frame and batteries into a single assembly, you have less parts and less complexity to deal with during manufacturing. The best part is NO part. I guess the steering wheel, brakes and accelerator pedals will be the next victims, inside the robotaxi ;-)
The thing is, this approach is simple common sense. It’s not that Elon’s approach is radically unique, it’s that most companies operate in such a ridiculous manner. We live in the post Jobs era. Everything we need to know is available.
Same in Sweden as a general, if the company goes bad, you blame the workers and even tho the company goes really bad, you praise the leaders, for their commitment for staying due to lack of the workers commitment.
In sweden, being promoted means you work less, due to the hierarchical structure, you make others do your work.
Hey, this is probably the Best summarized version online to why Elons companies are reasonably successful and fast paced, this speaks volumes about the Way he thinks and how the important it is to be efficient to survive. The Efficient Survive.
No matter how much hyper controlling or maniac you can get. The Efficient Survive. Give the man of the microphone a camera.
🤗GREAT REVIEW OF TESLA AND ELON 💚💚💚
When he's out and about talking to anyone and everyone, everyone knows they need to stay on theur toes, too. That's pretty good.
From what I look:
1) He wants his team to work at their best
2) He does everything he can to help them work at their best
This is gem
So good. This is a worthwhile perspective for others to understand. Politicians need to stop pretending they understand the capabilities and limitations of productivity of Elon.
"I want to talk to Jensen" 😄😄😄
Elon Musk is greatest visionary in Globe 😍and wide knpwledge to do best, ..in most fields🌍😍👋
Brilliant
Thank you for including the link to the full interview!
Thanks for uploading this snippet. A lot of signal here.
Legend!
Is this current or from years ago?
just a very engineering ( former engineer ) mindset that's what I see. I think the guy is super driven by his vision and just as a scrum master he is here to remove blocages. And for the vibe that he wants he wants the creativity of the first days of the silicon valley almost passionate.. you know the homebrew club ( where a steve wozniak was ) or the campus like stanford or stuff.
the thing is a lot of people enter tech for the salary. not for the passion so they sit at the office they are not buzzing they are not geeky. The investors and money pressure is taking out the fun the creativity. This can kill the SV and I think Elon understand that logically or instinctually. I don't know.
There's something kinda Captain Kirk-like about the way Musk runs companies.
Code is Truth - Code is Law
Elon is the only person who makes sense
This here is why i cannot sell my tesla stock
Elon was depressed in his youth and that's his biggest motivation to succeed.
"Andrej Karpathy" is an anagram for "Dank Therapy Jar", or if you prefer, "Thy Darker Japan". o/
Ja, prank hard yet?
I worked with an American company where engineers joked management was police and senior management was police to police the police.
he should come back to Tesla
Sem palavras essa entrevista não sabia que trabalha como nosso talentoso brilhante e gigante garoto dos foguetes faz a diferença nesse mundo eterna que exemplo a seguir não adoro seus documentários e muito importante saber o que acontece pelo mundo e que temos seres humanos assim como esse que mencionei nos inspira que história de vida e profissional agora sempre prestígio como forma de agradecer e ainda ter entre nós devemos sempre prestigiar pessoas assim e divulgar para mas amigo conheça seus projetos em prol da preservação contribuindo dessa certa forma sim informação e vida nos liberta sucesso sempre continue assim trazendo novos documentários e incrível que líbero o campo da legenda para poder acompanhar melhor sou do Brasil e so falo o português não sou robô faço aqui a mesma coisa com nosso presidente sempre será
sounds like a really fun workplace (- haha, sounds like I’m being sarcastic: I’m not)
Classic Musk mythologizing: the most banal leadership qualities presented as though they're unique and brilliant.
You’d be surprised how far away leadership is removed from execution even in a $100m company or in any company with more than 100 employees
In germany he has some crazy incompetent sales personal and sales managers in middle management
I'm from Germany. I don't know if it's very different in the USA, but here, actually learning/studying things like management/organisation/leadership etc. is almost unheard of. Managers are only found in big companies and they usually haven't learned it. They were simply promoted or hired AS a manager. The same goes for CEOs. Or current CEO for example is actually a sales person. And it shows. He's not really taking care of the company. He's basically the inofficial head of sales. He sees everything through that lenses, and everything else is neglected.
So I'm not surprised that german managers suck, because they're usually amateurs. But sales? That surprised me!
But I have to ask: Why do you think they are incompetent? What have you witnessed?
@@allesdurchprobiert Well, as an example you can take the fact that large fleet buyers have abandoned Tesla, mostly for the reason that Tesla service doesn't meet expectations (also also due to huge price fluctuations). It has been in the news that Sixt and SAP will no longer buy Tesla. These issues are within the power of Tesla to fix and it would be the responsibility of Tesla sales to identify and escalate any complaints before customers jump ship.
@@Martinit0 ok, thanks for answering!
I've heard about that. Yes, it's a shame. Almost forgot about it.
Nice
Buy high, sell low seems to be Elon The Genius's business model.
IMHO it's just that he has a working brain while most people don't. Everything else is a consequence of that.
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sounds like he's there to get stuff done
Here is the thing. I don't know if he actually suffers from a disease such as autism or not but I can see this as a trained observer. He knows what humanity is up against, most do not and he doesn't really talk about it in detail. He is truly a high functioning gifted person who has a set agenda and that time is ticking, not only for him but all of us. I can also say that everything younghink he believes in, well I'll say it this way, is possibly just a means to an end. Remember that he is human and he absolutely loves his family and if you had family members that close and dear wouldn't you sorta accept their views especially if it doesn't hurt anything, remember the main agenda is that the MAIN. Some of the most brilliantbgifted people walking the planet tend to either be full autistic and very hard to function in public but then even more rare are those who have a touch of this condition but can and do function in society, but I'm talking super duper rare and I believe that may be him. As you can tell I don't know this because it doesn't matter to me as I believe we just need to accept each other at what we are good or bad, not meaning harmful folks of course. So I just enjoy watching him closely to see all the signs that I do and marvel at it. Love y'all and be safe outbthere❤️🙏🇺🇸
He revealed himself that he has Aspergers or high functioning autism or whatever the official term is today.
No wonder he can actually think!
...Please don't call autism a disease anymore. No one needs or wants to be cured. Autistic people suffer a lot 24/7. But not from autism. We suffer from normies and their reactions to us and their unbelievable talent to screw things up needlessly and then acting surprised.
American team has 3 steerers, and 1 rower? Why?
It's an analogy for the stereotypical idea that american companies have more managers than actual workers who actually know what they are talking about.
The key of the startup vibe is the no-VP bullshit, just talk to the one working on the issue
NASA in the 1960s
So this great for making good teams - but how would people learn and improve with this structure? You should have an obligation to train and nurture your field… school can’t teach you everything you need in these jobs
Learning by doing and from your colleagues.
Look up genies 3rd eye
Man!!
That short clip is very insightful for Tesla shareholders !! ❤🎉😮
Buying someone else's invention and claiming it as his own. Excellent strategy.
And today Tesla announces that they are laying off 10% of their workforce 😬. Elon admitted that they got two large too fast and ended up duplicating many jobs.
Secret of elons success- rich daddy.
The guys is a genius and changes multiple industries with first principle thinking. Sad you can see that.
I thought his secret was micro dosing ketamine
Elon is a powerful force 🎤
i like this management style tho. There is no more bullshit and politics.
On Mars - got here early. Isn't worth it.
He was born into unspeakable wealth; the real secret is nepotism. Your Emperor has no clothes.
Very unique 🤦♂️
Anyone else having problem with audio? Sounds like how somebody would talk while choking on someone else's balls...
key to Elon's success: be born to a South African emerald mine baron
The guys is a genius and changes multiple industries with first principle thinking. Sad you can see that.
The influence Elon has on small business owner is catastrophic. In order to do what he does, you need to be Elon or similar. Guess what? most people are not like him.
Most people watch Elon Musk adjacent content for entertainment. Successful business owners aren't copying Musk.
This is why Tesla is a unique organization. No BS. Just efficiency and results. This is one of the mains reasons why they were able to solve the scaling-up issues that lead up to millions of EVs produced.
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Unique is an absolute , meaning one and only one. There are no degrees of being unique. Try an adjective like unusual instead.
Musk is such a conundrum. He does all these brilliant things with common sense and empathy then says really strange things in public.
Hello Jensen this is Elon...
I think you will get the gpu fast with that kind of involvement. Not something you will see at Google, Amazon or other places.
So exhausting. He talks so fast.
Weird to hear her so well.
Kinda miss the unbearable music…
😅
Boss
If Elon is so smart, let him restore the stock price of Tesla, and spent less time doing X that damages his investors’ values.
Not his priority
All completely obvious and common sense. But in a world without common sense it seems like genius. 🙄
Elon musk key to success is trauma and the usefulness of the team or invidual, hire and fire.
Does elon allow lemons on the property/area/near him anymore? Asking for a friend n I live on them eh!?!!6:01Am3/27/2024
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I hope Elon didn’t f up that rowing analogy as much as the video! 1st team isn’t Japanese, 2nd (US team) is a cut and paste job of first team, and not four steerers (coxswains) and one rower. Yikes! Love the streamlined philosophy at Elon’s companies tho.
and this is why he left Tesla ? ;)
scary;)
horrible CEO
So Elon is just like Mary Barra and Jim Farley then 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes, use govt money to build a company, hire smart people while you sit as the head of company. This is like jockeying. The horse does the work, the jockey gets the reward. Or like a pimp, where you get money from other people's work. A very unique leadership it is.
These videos are the kind of crap the 4 steerers on the rowing boat like to watch and idolise.
Cut out the middleman when you want to talk to the people A lot of times there's politics and control games come on talk to the people.
Elon musk 🍑 fan boys
Who says Elon musk is successful?
We all want to see Elon's large hammer.
Recently Musk is kinda becoming quite a toxic persona. He certainly is competent in some areas but it's troubling that he's been getting bit too vocal on topics he has no idea whatsoever.