JUMPERS KNEE | Doctor's ULTIMATE Guide to Common NBA Injury
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- Ever wonder about "jumpers knee" or patellar tendinopathy? This is one of the most common injuries seen in basketball and so in this video you'll get an easy to understand explanation about this common condition seen in many NBA athletes such as Vince Carter, Derrick Rose, Andre Roberson, Anthony Bennett, Kryie Irving, and so many more!
Thanks as always for watching!
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-Figueroa et all, “Patellar Tendinopathy: Diagnosis and Treatment”, Journal of the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons 24(12):e184-e192, Dec 2016
DISCLAIMER: I have not treated any of the individuals in this video. Content not intended to be taken as medical advice. Opinions represent those of the individual and not my employer
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I had extreme pain in my Patellar tendon area of both knees whenever I did something that would stretch the tendon from aged 15 to 18. I played basketball and volleyball. Bad enough pain that I had to take 4 ibuprofen before every sports practice or game just to be able to function.
Two visits to a doctor and they never gave me a diagnosis of anything, however. They just told me to "strengthen my legs". However, at the time it hurt way too much and I was scares to lift and put my legs under more of a load.
I then went to a chiropractor (yeah yeah, make fun of chiropractors), and in the imaging they took of my knees, they pointed out the apparent damage of that tendon area.
Through working with them, it was discovered that my hips were rotated a certain way that kinked the chain of energy up through my knees. My feet had always been at a 90 degree angle of one another my whole life when I walked, stood, or ran, but I never thought anything of it. The rotation of my legs literally caused exactly what you described in the video with the lateral shifting of the tendon when I bent my legs.
For about a year I went every two weeks to keep adjusting my hips as they literally straightened out when adjusted, but in a few days got crooked again. Over time, I had to go less and less frequently, and my hips stayed in line.
At that point my pain was almost gone, and any lingering pain went away once I got serious in the gym and strengthened my legs after all.
So that's my story. Maybe the doc helped, maybe the chiropractor helped. I dont care
A lot of chiros are quacks but if you find a good one you’re lucky. Mine fixed my hips and my back pain went away for good. People also sleep funny (and also have bad posture like you explained) and getting your hips adjusted clears up most common problems
" My feet had always been at a 90 degree angle of one another my whole life " , I don't understand this ? can u explain that ?
mann search in instagram kneesovertoesguy have a great exercisces for the knee he can help you
I played in a basketball tourney and we played 5 games in like 6 hours and after i couldn't straighten them out and it happens every once in a while but when i straighten it then it feels like something is pulling in my knee
Dude hearing your story, I have a feeling that your a point guard who moves side to side alot or you got flat fee? When you crossover attention to your knees, u can see that it's bending outwards. Or if your a dunker do u land on the heels? If yes to these then you have to relearn all those movements again that puts less stress and prevent knees bending.
If your a dunker try to land on your toes instead of heels
This is a terrible thing to have, I held with for a whole year and one day you might be feeling perfect to go out and play, but then the next day the knee starts to hurt like crazy
Ive had it for over a year and mine just won't heal
It sucks
Facts it sucks
Have they healed
I play through it
My retinas love the thumbnail colors
Hey Doc, please can you make a video discussing shin splints/ stress fractures...
I'm a long jumper and struggling with shin splints. Thanks
And how to recover from them, I'm a basketball player and it's really holding me back
@@amadou6968 same issue here
stress fractures in the tubula, i have a stress fracture currently in my shin, and as a catcher in baseball, its painful
Same bro, same
Adidas boost and specific landing technics got me away from shin splints forever. (I'm a 6"5 guard)
Thank you for finally uploading this one! Been waiting for it.
I am a doctor as well and I suffered from jumpers knee for nearly 3 years. I can definitely say it was a horrible experience not because of so much pain but because of restriction in many everyday activities.
What treatment did you pursue in order to cure your condition Alexander? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
The Subway Alum did you receive feedback or heal your tendonitis
You never fully recovered on knee this injury is worse than a acl tear I swear. If you get this chronic your playing days are over
I received ultrasound-guided PRP treatment and lots of physio with a very experienced physiotherapist.
Good job on becoming a doctor, how did u study with that injury? Did you only study while sitting? Did u ever have a summerjob? Dont u need to stand all day while working there or when yu was a resident or something else
Thanks for the great info! I've been working back from this exact issue with my left knee and now I have a new rehab exercise to do!
I'm 44, I've had it since 16! Concrete and asphalt bball all day long.
Strengthen your legs young people. Squat, press, deadlift and lunges. Those help my knees plus massage and ice.
That's something I will work on.
I've had it for about 4 months and good lord its already frustrating
Are you sure there's no permanent recovery?
Did it ever go away?)
Is it supposed to hurt when I squat
Omg I was wondering about this the other day. Nice. Thanks for the upload.
Thanks Doc I play ultimate disc an have suffered for this condition for at least a few years now, initially is was just under my knee caps an now the pain has moved lower to where the patellar tendon meet the shin bone. Thus far I’ve only applied the PRICE technique in terms of rehab. Anyway this vid was very informative learning about the q angle an the fact that weak quads could be a contributor was eye opening.
I will also be resting rather then pushing thru the pain for now on.
Appreciate it!
Great video! I was a catcher in baseball and goalie in hockey. I’ve had issues with this for 10+ years. Started with a 8 month rehab and was back. Fast forward several years the pain got severe again. I ended up getting injections that didn’t help, in fact one knee got worse and ended up requiring surgery. What I’ve noticed is that the post surgery rehab is brutal. Definitely going to show this video to people asking what’s wrong with my knees.
I needed this video lol, I had this the entire second half of my last basketball season and continued to play on it and it’s now been 2 years and I still will get pain from time to time but not near what it was, and apparently I had it in stage 3 according to this. Now I know what to do when (or if) it comes back. Thank you and great video!
best explanation i found on TH-cam by far. thank you!
Thank you for another great Video Doc! Keep up the great werk!
Thank you Dr. Brian. This is the best explanation out there.
Thanks for the video doc! I've been looking for a good video about patellar tenonopathy for some of the high school athletes that I treat!!
Perfect example of Lander's knee: D Rose and his gymnastically-stiff plants
That's called no-knees
I love how simply descriptive these videos are, love this segment Brian!
Thanks!
I love all your videos! They are soo interesting and easy to understand.
I have watched a lot of videos about this subject these past few days and you are by far the most well-spoken easy to understand person ever! NOW I understand why anti-inflammatory gel wasn't working on my knee. I don't have a tendinitis but a tendinopathy! I appreciated and loved how you explained the differences between them two. I'm very happy I stumbled upon your video. Many many thanks ❤
I have jumpers knee. I hurt my knee last August in basketball, and it's now July. It's extremely painful when going down slopes and stairs. I can't even bend down on my knees without excruciating pain. I can't run or jump. You literally feel like an 80 year old man. I recently started focusing on quad exercises to increase quad strength, as well as taking naproxen. I also take a collagen supplements, as well as l glutamine, protein shakes and fish oil. I've noticed a huge improvement. Hopefully I'll be back to dunking soon.
Hey how are you doing after 1 year??
Hey TheDevinci314. Def appreciate you sharing this. An update would be super helpful. I'm considering going down a similar road, nutrition- and exercise-wise. How are you doin now, three years later? Thanks
can't believe how good this video is. just 100% helpful and point-on. And pace is very good (and fast)
Hi Doc, thanks for the video, unfortunaly I can really relate to this, I was diagnosed with this (i didnt know it was called "jumpers knee") and I havent played basketball for 6 months and I have been doing physiotheraoy. Interestingly, I havent done the exercise you mentioned, I have just done exercises to overall streghten the VMO, to get the kneecap back to place. I also found that a patellar tendon strap really helps out a lot during sports activity ( I still play from time to time). Again, thanks so much for the information (not only from this video), keeo up the good work! You really helped me out (and possibly many others) young players, that want to make it to professional, but at the level I am currently at I dont have an exclusive sports doctor. So, once again thank you so much!
P.s: could you make a video about ligament avulsion ( i had an ankle sprain in which this happened)
I completely agree with your characterization of this as "Landers knee," thanks to my personal experience of repeatedly landing only on my left leg due to bad hitting technique in volleyball.
Omggg I needed this video since like forever!!!!!!
Thank you man you really helped me. I‘m a football player and have the same problem
One of my friends injured his ankle during a 1v1 vs me. He landed awkwardly and as soon as I saw him fall I immediately remember your video on the sprained ankle injury (I forgot which video it was :/ ) and educated him lol all thanks to you I know way too much about knees and ankles xD
from the Uk , had patella tendinopathy for around 4 years managing the pain through professional rugby. recently got PRP injections and has alleviated some pain but not all. This video is probably the best I've seen and id never even began to think about Q angle. Thanks !!
This is the exact video i've been waiting for. THANK YOU!!!
You bet!! Hope you enjoy it!
Brian Sutterer MD I was having inter coarse with a prostitue and her neck cracked is she ok
I swear I was gonna reach out one day and ask you to discuss this
Been dealing with it for years 😂😂
Watchu doin here😂😂
Dom2k yo I really love your vids
Wazzup Dom2k lol
Damn waddup
hi everyone ,if anyone else wants to learn about best thing for patellar tendonitis try Mackorny Treat Bones Blueprint (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now )?
It is a good one off product for dealing with chronic knee pain minus the normal expense. Ive heard some interesting things about it and my m8 got cool results with it.
Great video!! Now i understand more about this problem and oh boy...I have a lots people with patela problems! Great Job!!
Thank you for highlighting the landing part. I'm practicing ballet as a means to reverse sciatica. But now I'm trying to practice it safely and not causing and new problems in the body. My main hobbies are dance(ballet), and martial arts (bjj, kickboxing). It would be great if you dug into those areas. Thank you for the insights.
Excellent video!!! Thank you so much!!!
Thank you for sharing your hard earned knowledge with us. You're doing a great service to the many of us hardheaded idiots who don't visit a physician unless something is critically wrong.
I understand this information is not a substitute for actually visiting a physician. But it does give us a gross idea of what may be occurring and how not to make it worse.
My man, explained it so much better than the doctors I've seen. I've been trying to figure out exactly how to rehab my knee, since the physical therapy was way off. Now I know I need to lower slowly and perhaps assist myself back up. I have quadriceps tendonopathy, but I can run full speed sprints with no pain. If I try to squat, the top of my kneecap kills! It's a very hard disease to deal with.
Love your info! thank you!
I was a Catcher for my Baseball team and a Point Guard, I had a 47 inch verticle jump, once I got to college, my left knee could no longer take knelling so I quit baseball and focused on Basketball, I had Pain in my knee my whole Senior year and played through it, I know now that that ended my professional career before it began, oh well I'll be sure to pass this on! Thanks
I absolutely LOVE the way you explain concepts without being condescending. Thank you for being so thorough also. The images that you show are very good, and helpful for those of us who are visual learners (I would appreciate the images/footage even more if you were able to leave them on the screen longer; it would give me longer to absorb and process. )
Regardless, these are FANTASTIC and very engaging videos. Have a great week!
Thanks so much for kind feedback!!
i surely understand that healing process is vary depending on individual and the stage they are in, but in general, how long its going to take to heal the tendon? and thank you for another great informative video.
I had this because of playing basketball barefoot! Always played to aggressive in my backyard during the summer so definitely lace up! It took me a solid year to fully recover!
My gooood i've had this for years ! I'll try to do what u've suggested
Honestly needs more subs
Hey honesty is the best policy
Can you do a video like this for the ankles?
this man is the goat
Do a vídeo about quad tendinopathy pls! Love from Portugal
Fantastic video. I had a 38” vertical. I’ve learned it’s not the jumping, like u said, but the landing. I do jello for the collagen loss. And kneesovertoes. This vid is awesome thanks. Liked and subscribed.
I had the same issue from my 4th year of college basketball, where I landed wrong after a lazy layup and my left knee started hurting. It never healed throughout the next two years while i continued to play, I'd use knee support, which would prevent the pain while playing but without it i was practically immobile. Cut to almost 1.5 years of not playing basketball through the pandemic, now when i go play basketball, I'm completely healed and i also continue the rehad to strengthen my hip flexures and abductor movements which caused the issue back then. So long break and rest is clearly the one of the ways to let the knee heal, so if you get an opportunity like that be sure to take it and make the most of it.
Another thing that exacerbates this pain for me is having weak/tight abductors. I’ve been strengthening my VMO for a while now and doing some sets of hip abductor exercises before my leg workouts basically eliminate the pain from working out. Still get soreness after the fact sometimes though.
I like your videos before i watch them 😂
Same here! :D
Well I like the videos before he even posts them
Cole Lutz I subscribed to his channel before he even started it, sosuck on that one buddy
SyCo Xota damn bro... props
hypo - low
hyper - high
itis - inflamation
emia - presence in blood
opathy - generalized disease process
yeah i learned a lot in youtube.
Please do patella chondromalacia!
It never goes away ....
Something that helped me get rid of or at least being able to keep the "jumpers knee" in control is using IMS (Intra muscular stimuli) needles for my tractors. The physio for my team gives me this on a regular basis like every third week depending on how much weightlifting and jumping I have been doing. Is this something that is commonly used for treating this condition?
I'm also working on making the VMO muscle stronger + the glutes in general to ease the load from the patella joint.
Thank you for the instructive video!
Yes, this what the people asked for. Thank you so much.
You're welcome!
Thank you. That was a great explanation and so much better than "NSAIDs, tape and back out you go"
Can you do Osgood-Schlatter disease next?
Upinthesky 9 that’s what this is
Fun Guy No
Upinthesky 9 no
Fun Guy they are not the same thing my guy
Fun Guy nvm my fault
Do Hudson-Odoi next! He ruptured his Achilles tendon. How does that affect him in future, especially for someone that's a speedster? Love your vids! Not a med student but super informative! :)
After dealing with patellar tendonopothy for a decade, I completely ruptured my patellar tendon a couple weeks ago at age 24. Worst injury of my life and incredibly disheartening. Watching this video and others like it to help out with a long road to recovery and getting my knee back, thanks doc.
Damn that sucks man i wish you speedy recovery!
I ruptured mine back in april and is the worst rehab i have ever had to do
I've been dealing with it since 2019 and I'm 24 now as well... Wishing for u and everyone else with this gets better
Thank you doc I play basketball and about everything I do is mostly jumping
Thanks for the video, Brian. I learned a lot. I got PT from doing tree work and being out of shape. I want to get better so I can keep on climbing.
While using climbing gaffs, (spurs) sometimes one is in a static position for prolonged periods of time. When it's time to ascend to the next working position, the gaffs sometimes have become stuck too deep into the tree. it takes some effort to pull the spurs out. I'm thinking QT angle. "patience grasshopper", because I wish there was a quick fix.
Interesting you say that. I hope you are fully recovered by now. I came here to look for something for my daughter who is a runner but I can say that 20 years of tree climbing has left me with very tight quads on the outsides. I only realised it gave me knee trouble when I tried to start running again to slow my daughter's long runs down. I am now on the foam roller every day and stretching too. I think the Q angle is going to quite badly out on spikes and I think the quad may also be tight most of the time when in most work positions in a tree just to stabilise the leg. Touch your quads next time you are in a work position. I think it may be this stabilisation that has more of an effect than recovering your spikes from the tree. I doubt I get a gaff stuck more than once a year these days -just keep them sharp and walk up softly- but my quads are way too tight.
Thanks Bryan I got this from hours of running and football and i had no idea about about this I obviously I was a little scared since I’ve seen so many football careers get ruined by knee injuries
I wonder if it’s like catcher’s knee. After fifteen years of baseball specifically at the catcher position my knees are like jelly sometimes lol.
Packer McJabroni I tip my hat to you, I squat for 5 seconds and my knees are annoyed lol and I never played catcher
I think that's more like tennis elbow
i caught a whole year every game every inning and i can’t anymore
Bro I think about that w catchers all the time! You guys are unreal for being able to squat like that for so damn long fam 💯 ⚾️
Im surprised that your knees aren’t literally bulletproof. After catcher of 15 years i hope your legs are like ronnie coleman now
Could you do a video on a ruptured Achilles. Hudson-Odoi from Chelsea just got this injury
Brian, I was just wondering if Patellar Femoral Pain Syndrome (PFPS) is the same as Jumper’s Knee?
Thanks for your info👍🏾
That landing stuff you talking about is what I notice with my JP knees. I get the feeling of if you not bending in too much especially when you are forefoot lander, the tendon is getting damaged more and more
I have the step 1 version of jumpers knee but I've had it for just a little over a year
Ty for the great video! I am puzzled what to do - last week I did more HIIT workouts than usual (indoors and a lot of jumping squats). Previous couple weeks I’d done more skipping but before that did normal HIIT (jump squats etc..). Since this week of increased HIIT my knees feel a bit tender.. they don’t hurt but they’re very sensitive and when I crouch down they feel very tight - what do I do? Apart from avoid HIIT for a week and maybe wait a bit longer to do glute/leg day.... praying this is a one time thing and can heal quickly :( never had this before in my life
Thank you thank you thank you Doc
Well... Thank you for the new workout! I dance but I deal with “lander’s” knee quite often... 💀😭
Thank you!
Great video, could you do a video about Osgood schlatters my teamsate was recently diagnosed with this and is wondering about it
tell him to go to @thekneesovertoesguy on instagram i had osgood schlatters for a year and the exercises he posts fixed me fast. especially the “atg style split squats”
DC and to stretch the quads against the wall like he shoes
I have this. Stretching and a good knee brace has helped a ton. Specifically ones that provide support over the top of the patella. Also don’t jump off of stuff that too high. It can make it way worse.
Hey Dr. Sutterer, any thoughts on trigger points as they relate to this and other types of knee pain?
Love this video
Doc can you do Callum Hudson-Odoi and his RUPTURED Achilles .. thanks 🙏
How long does the average recovery time take
Explained very well! Great content!
Thanks!
Like your videos.
Can you please explain what happend to Robert Wickens back during his crash in the Indy Car race?
Hes recovery goal is to dance on his wedding this summer.
One about quadriceps tendonitis pls doc bro
10/10 on this video as a whole I liked and subscribed just because of this 1 video.what you said at the end is dead on I’m a high jumper and the leg I jump off of is healthy 0 pain but the leg I always land on has extreme pain just walking up steps. Can you please talk about how to fix landing on that leg so I can do so properly? Please read and respond to my comment I need your help!
Can you do Nathan Eovaldi's surgery and process please🙏
Can we hear your thoughts on CTE/concussions as a doctor who is a sports fan? Very curious on your thoughts on money over athlete safety
I’m suffering from this it’s holding me back rn so much couldn’t have asked for a better time to post this
Hang in there! Time is the biggest challenge with it :/
Hi Brian, first of all: your videos are awsome, they've been very usefull for me as a PT student. Second do you think you could post the links of the articles you cite? In your videos.
Greetings from México.
If you just copy and paste the citations you'll be able to find them !
Im a soccer player and I've had this issue a little over a year and I really want to get this fixed.. I've done rest for months.and have done PT for months.. MRI even shows nothing but still extreme pain when I try to play soccer and can feel it at times when going up and down stairs or even standing up sometimes.
i got jumper's knee because im a two foot jumper and land super stiff when doing 1 foot jump layups, got to remember to absorb the landing with your muscles and activate and be intune with your leg muscles
Thanks doc.
Can you do a video on turf toe please
Been suffering from this for 4 years now, injured at 22, now 26, from landing after rebounding a basketball. MRI says tracking issues, along with patella alta and trochlear dysplasia.
I have tried everything except Eccentric exercises. I am now going to buy a board to do squats on.
I will be back in 1 year with my results.
results?
Can you do a Part II elaborating on efficient landing biomechanics versus potential dysfunctional landing patterns? Thanks!!
I'll put it on the list! Didn't think people would be that interested in that part haha
@@BrianSuttererMD actually I think that might be interesting. I also wonder about those people who jump , land wrong and get an ACL tear, a few years ago there were a lot of injuries for NFL players in training camp jumping to catch passes, I forget all the players now but a few of them were fairly big names that were lost.
Honestly I’m currently at a loss, I’ve had this issue for a while now. 2 summers ago I went to a doctor for it and they just said to stay off of it, and so I did for the entire summer. Once I got back to playing volleyball in September, the exact same pain or even worse came back .
I now have a slant board to practice some eccentric squats, hopefully this helps me.
Best thing I did when I had this was trapbar deadlifts, single leg split squats, & calf raises. Make sure you stretch after the workout (hamstrings, quads & calves) & lay off of playing for a little while like completely shut it down
so squat more and rehab regularly. I have a question. can you do a video on the knee problems nba retired players have. Idt it has to only do with all the games they play. Alot of those guys(take kenny smith) never shot without knocking knees and I think that has alot to do with it.
Hey Doc, do you think a knee sleeve with a cushion ring over the patella will help or possibly do damage to the knee cap tracking? Any help is greatly appreciated !
Can you please give more guidance on some more ways ( or exercises ) that can help with the pain?
Could you do a vid on shin splints 😰🤔
Awesome as always👍👍👍
(PRP), actually known as Regenokine...any studys on treating runners knee or Chondromalcia with prp? I have been told that strengthening my VMO's will help.
Prp is different from regenokine. I did a video on regenokine ( titled about the kobe treatment). Prp is mixed, we have the most experience with knee arthritis and prp, seems to be around 50-70% effective and if it works it's usually longer than steroid shot
@@BrianSuttererMD Thanks
I’m working on dunking but I’m 5’8” so I’m probably more susceptible to these injuries. I’ll have to try not to overwork my knees 💪
Isometric holds in legs helps strengthen patellar tendon soooo work on isometric holds
We got the same prob but only things I can dunk
Used to feel like my knee was being stabbed got rid of it within a year. 19 5'8
@@dyterrianrainey4289 WAIT HOWWWW
@@andrewguerra2532 I did squats and other leg workouts but I still have my days if I dunk too much
Hey Brian! Can you do a video on osgood schlatter's decease and how its different with jumpers knee? :)
Are they different?
I'll never forget the day this happened to me. Jumped, knee popped, and now I have a second knee
Hye sir! I wanna talk to you. We have the same problem
Doctor told me I have a partial tear in my ACL and something going in my MCL. This injury occured 2 years ago but in that 2 years I was able to do some strengthening exercises and I was able to play pickups but not at a high level. Last week I reaggravated it and it kinda swolled but now I'm good again. Can someone please tell me what's going on? Do partial tears heal or is surgery the deal?
50 seconds into the video and already straight fax’s