What’s so great about these moto guzzis is they don’t egg you on to go fast, or want to pass every slow car - they make you actually want to relax and chill cause they’re so enjoyable to ride slow. This makes them a safer bike cause speed is the killer. I love my v7. Love the engine and riding position and feel of the bike.
My son bought the 2021 V7 this summer and I was finally able to take it out for a ride this week. What a nice motorcycle! It is a perfect combination of old school simplicity mixed with enough modern technologies in a rider friendly package that reminds me of how bikes were meant to be: fun, enjoyable transportation. I have a Harley Sportster and a Harley Road King along with a Yamaha SR500 in my garage. All are simple fun to ride motorcycles. This V7 s what I would call a rider's motorcycle. I may well have to add one to my stable. I am constantly amazed at how many people compare bikes like Harleys and Moto Guzzis to modern soulless sport bikes saying the sport bike will blow these others away. They are sadly missing the whole point of riding a motorcycle in the first place. Still, this Guzzi has just enough power and handing to certainly put a smile on your face. And knowing you are not riding just another cookie cutter machine is a rather pleasing feeling. Moto Guzzi did a fine spectacular job wih the upgrade on this 2021 V7.
Different strokes. A relaxed neo classic with character and sports focused bike are just different experiences. Neither is objectively better, just best for a person.
Sports bikes can have character and soul ..depends on the bike, the rider etc. everyone has they’re own opinion on the point of riding motorcycles and are not "missing the point of riding a motorcycle in the first place" just because they don’t share your point of view.
@@gibsonvos5120 Sorry, did not mean to offend. My opinions were just that, my opinions. More importantly is that we all share a common love for the sport of motorcycling regardless of what we ride or how we ride it.
I have just been out on my Guzzi 1400 Eldorado. Down the country roads from Marlow in Buckinghamshire, through Henley and on towards Reading. I had Triumphs for many years so fancied a change. Tried other Triumph, Harley Fat Boy and an Indian Chieftain. Then I tried the Guzzi. I was hooked after 10 seconds. A 240 mile test ride nailed it. I have had the bike for 5 years now. Nothing has ever gone wrong. Twice around Europe and its a bike I will never sell. All the Ferrari owners I pass are always cranning their necks to see what it is.
I'm six-four with a 34 inch inseam and I'm very comfortable on mine. After 55 years of riding, it is in fact the most comfortable motorcycle I've ever owned. Love that seat!
Currently own a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 cc that I have had for 20 years. Once took me 120 miles on one cylinder at highway speed when one spark plug wire crapped out on a Sunday morning with no shops open. At almost 70 years old it has gotten too heavy to maneuver in and out of situations. Purchased a 2013 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone at more than 100 pounds less wet weight. Absolutely love it. Will stay with Moto Guzzi for the rest of my riding life. I have owned BMW, Laverda, Ducati, Moto Morini, Triumph, BSA, Zundapp, Indian, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Cagiva and loved them all for different reasons, but the fact that I can physically handle the weight of a bike that will cruise (illegally) at 85-90 mph for as long as I need, looks good, is reliable and affordable and unique, why shop anywhere else?- -Mike Battle
I understand your view completely. I too am an older rider and my GS is making me appreciate why I've held on to my 78' Bonneville since new. Much to recommend a "ellemental" machine.
@@rodtew7296 I had a "79 Bonneville bought brand new and for about 1 month could not get the smile off my face when I rode it. Then, gradually I found myself packing more tools to take care of "incidents" and finally got sick of the constant maintenance just to be able to travel from point "A" to point "B" with confidence. Ended up trading it for an "82 BMW GS and never looked back to Triumph. --Mike
I've got a 2021 V7 Centenario. It's the bike that brought me back to motorcycling after a 16 year hiatus. Used to ride sport bikes exclusively and I could not be happier to be riding this retro standard now. For me, everything about the machine screams cool.
As a mature beginner, this really seems like a bike steeped in class. At some point I really must try one. I love the corsa edition with the retro racing look
Great to see the V7 reviewed Mark. I have a 2015 V7ii Special as a 2nd bike (also have GS 1200 Rallye)and it's addictive. It'll do motorways no problem but shine in cities, A and B roads. They are fun to ride relaxed but a giggle when you thrash them too. Build quality superb, solid, and no complex electronics. Visceral and full of character. Came across it by accident when researching Street Twins. The tank range 230 miles and shaft drive are big plus points few reviewers mention. And the size, unless you're 6' plus is very user-friendly. Anyone thinking about a Street Twin or RE650 should check them out. I got mine with 3500 miles on the clock in showroom condition for £4750. Yes, the new one has a bigger engine but also more weight so worth checking out earlier models and saving a few grand. Cheers.
@@1990-t1j I did have a problem at 4500 miles, faulty lambda sensor in the exhaust. The bike hadn't been used for a year by the previous owner which may have contributed. Otherwise good as gold. If you are on FB join the V7 group and you'll see owners are very happy. Just got the 6000-mile service, £150. In contrast, my GS has had £3000 of warranty repairs done in 1st year of ownership.
@@GJS-live Thanks. The warranty bill on your GS doesn't surprise me one bit. I did 91,000 miles on an 1100. All sorts of things went wrong with it. I like the sound of these MGs.
Thank You 'GS' for your comments. Very much APPRECIATED. What size engine on your 2015 V7 Please?? 700cc?? (I do not know) Contemplating getting a 2022 V7 Special. Here in OZ, they are asking about $19,000 AUD !!! ( WOW ) Thank You and Regards.
So I've just bought a v7 850 special, and had my first ride( if you don't include the test ride)on a Guzzi in 53 years of riding bikes. Only done 112 miles on it and running it in. It's returning an impressive 73 mpg, and I'm rather heavy. Love the way this bike rides, and the feel of the engine, and the way it cleans up real easy. With all the salt on the roads just now I was expecting to be doing a bit of elbow greasing, but it all washed off the exhaust pipes,barrels,heads and rocker covers, hadn't baked on so I concluded it doesn't get overly hot. It's not a fast bike by today's standards, but certainly entertaining, and I happen to know its capable of going faster than the majority of riders are 😉.
Got one exactly the same apart from those neat mirrors... Had it 6mths 2500mls and absolutely love it...I concur with everything you say Mark , excellent fair review.. Every time I pass it in the garage, lifts my spirts and can't wait for spring. Although with my heated gloves and vest have sneaked out occasionally on decent winter days..( if only we had that kit years ago when I had to commute daily on the bike throughout the year.) Being retro in years myself ( septuagenarian.) the V7 suits me just fine, can comfortably spend hours in the saddle, loads of grunt and handles beautifully loads of character, trickles easily through standing traffic. Looks unique outside the cafe, a proper motorcycle...What's not to like... a cracking bike...
Great vid Mark! After watching this and many other reviews over the last few weeks I tried a V7 Stone today and ended up getting one in the Arancione Rame (orange copper) color as a stablemate to my 2012 Concours. I love my Connie, but she's a big girl and for a while now I've thought how much fun it'd be to have a nice middleweight to throw around on shorter rides, as well as something that flows air better during our hot Central Texas summers. I knew I wanted something other than another inline 4, and I think the V7's transverse V-twin is pretty much the polar opposite character-wise. At first I thought the vibration might be too much "character" for me, but after several miles it grew on me, and in conjunction with the wonderful torque, it really gave me that old school man/machine connectedness feeling. And speaking of torque, even though I expected it from the reviews I'd seen, it pulls even better than I thought it would! My Connie has an ECU flash that greatly enhances the torque at low RPM, and yet the V7 felt darn near as snappy between 2500-3500 RPM! It's very easy to short-shift and still get decent acceleration, which will help with the fun factor as I'm breaking it in. I was also quite surprised at how little wind blast I got even at 70 mph, and that was with my stiffer cool weather textile jacket. Should be even less noticeable with my mesh jacket. The bike I rode and ended up getting was brand new, not a demo, and yet the tranny was smoother than I expected. Clutch pull was ridiculously easy, although like some reviewers I found the friction zone on the wide side. Doesn't bother me though - just adds to the bike's character. And as some have also noted finding neutral required a bit more finesse than with my Connie, but not enough to be annoying. Even if it doesn't become easier I know I'll get accustomed to it since probably half the bikes I've owned have had this issue. Really looking forward to when I bring the little fella home!
They are lovely bikes and work particularly well when ridden in a smooth, mechanically sympathetic way, IMHO. It’s the sounds, the throb, the charms. Enjoy like a nice glass of wine, not a sambuka shot.👍 I am biased though I have one.
Good review about what these Guzzi are all about ; thanks Mark; maid me glad that my brother and I just purchased two 2021 V7 specials yesterday one blue and one silver; I’m 68 and retired now; retro-classic look and easygoing riding characteristics really grabbed us and we’re Italian with a bit of bios
I'm with Michael Oh. I, too, own a 2019 V7 Special and love it for the same reasons. He articulated the magic of Moto Guzzi very well--they really do make safe, lawful riding incredibly enjoyable. The V100 Mandello is right in the center of my radar for an early spring 2024 purchase.
Yeah Guzzi's have always been about the torque, tons of it. Nice to hear the throaty and very recognisable Guzzi V7 sound as well. Although the old carbureter Guzzi's had a legendary sound! Well over here in Italy it's sold very well , esp the Centenario. Great review mate, thanks 👍
Great review. This is a real motorbike, and not a weekend play-thing. I owned a Honda CX500 back in the day, and it was a super machine. The Guzzi is a worthy modern day replacement.
I do not think v7 is "modern replacement" 😊 It is rather "back to old, good days". CB500X is some progress in engine development. If only cb500x has really 500cc engine and drive shaft or belt 🙂
Another great review. Would be a nice bike to have in the garage for leisurely summer rides. I actually think the Stone version is the best looking of the V7s.
Thanks Mark for this excellent review! I'll test ride this bike tomorrow morning! I really like your reviews, which I just discovered. You do them in a very simple and well focused way, and you mention all those things that I find extremely important, but most other testers completely leaves out: How fast is the engine spinning at a certain speed in 6th, fuel consumption, vibrations, and wind comfort. And ease of handling in city traffic. Excellent, go on like this! 👍
Excellent. I bought the Special version October '21, love it to bits. Had two older Guzzis years ago, this is way better than them. The mpg display is next to useless, so I ignore it and just go by the trip odo (i.e., the 'old fashioned' way), and low fuel light to get an idea when to next fill up. Mpg for me so far seems to be high 40's low 50's, depends what sort of roads you're on, traffic etc. Re 'shaft-jacking' and torque reaction - these are things non-Guzzi / BMW people seem to focus on - the simple answer is, you cease to noitce after a short while, then it's never an issue. 😁
Have had over a dozen guzzis over the past 40 years ,currently contemplating selling my california to buy one of these.Alternarively I could sell my carbied dynaglide but I love carbies good place to be in.Ill have to take one for a test ride.
Average fuel consumption at relaxed speeds (country lanes) of my V7 850 Special is about 22 km/liter or 62 mpg (imperial). My tripmeter indicates 33 km/liter, hence is 50% optimistic. I also have a V7 III Special which does about 23 km/liter and on that one the tripmeter is correct.
Thanks for the info ....so maybe the trip computer is a little optimistic on these then ...I'd like to do a proper fuel calculation on these cheers mark
So this is not so great result as some say. I'd say I'm not surprised. This is simple, air cooled engine. The last thing I expect is the it is super economy. So if u ride not in "relaxing" way but just normal (not speeding) consumption will be probably higher than 5l/100km.
Thank so much for the review. I had no idea that the V7 is so good. That engine sound is addictive, and from looking around the bike seems to be very reliable too. Shortlisted!
Thanks Mark, another very thorough informative review and very timely for me as I've just put a deposit on a V7 Centenario. I've been a long time Guzzi fan and the V7 will sit alongside my V8TT and if it turns out to be a good touring bike as well as street bike it will be my replacement for the V85 as my legs seem to be getting shorter as I near retirement!! V85 has proved to be very frugal and reliable so expecting the same from the V7. MG are hidden gems in my opinion offering relaxed laid back riding as well as being able to handle beautifully when hussled along.
I think you’ll love it; good vibes (literally) when relaxed but also great to hustle a bit with very useable performance. 2-3 hours on a naked is enough for me but otherwise very comfortable.
I think from the steering head back it looks lovely.I like the shaft drive a lot.The front end however for me looks unfinished.A second disc would look great.Separate speedometer and rev counter would look much nicer.That speedo/dash being off centre would drive me nuts and stop me from buying one.I really like the way you present your reviews in such a calm manner.Thanks for taking the time.
I've just ordered a new yellow 850 V7, it should arrive in about two weeks. I currently have a 2005 Breva 750 and 2016 V7 ii and think they're brilliant bikes and so much fun to ride.
I had a 2016 V7 for a few years. It was a real mixed bag. The master cylinder cap was leaky. Somehow oil kept ending up in the airbox. One wild day the rear of the shaft drive dumped about half a quart of oil for reasons that were never determined. The ignition had to be re-soldered as the wires just fell out one day. Repairs took forever, parts were slow to arrive. Very few mechanics in town would work on one. All that said, I loved riding the thing and still kinda miss it. Will never buy one again.
Lovely bike - great review Mark. That feel from a Guzzi shaft drive is priceless. Used to love it when I had a California EV. The pistons in those cylinders are huge btw - as I am sure you must have realised 😄
Great vid thanks. I've had an 850 V7 Centenario since July and am loving it. Agree with your findings: grunt (if not outright top-end power but that's fine with me), comfort, relaxed but solid handling, good mpg, plenty of character. Only downside from me is the (very) sudden engine braking if you chop the throttle suddenly, much better to roll it off gently.
I purchased the 850 Stone in black in the autumn. I noticed the sudden engine braking too, but I've got used to it. One thing I've found is a very stiff gear change from 1st to 2nd which disappears when the bike has warmed up. I love it though and it's so solid and well built. Would last a lifetime if well maintained, which is a big appeal in our throw-away age.
I picked up my ne V7 Special yesterday. It's a really simple , but refined motorcycle. It's very easy to ride and handles really well. It's like a a very plush tractor And I mean that as a compliment. It feels strong and the bike is all about the engine. Without doubt a keeper of a bike.
@@markpulling12 yesterday was absolutely freezing on the 159 mile ride home. In the wet and somewhat icy conditions it never gave me cause for concern. The power delivery was smooth and that engine just makes you smile.
Hi Mark. I had a ride on a V7 850 like this round the Gower Peninsula in Wales recently. It really was great fun on the smaller A and B roads, and as you said the weight feels low and its very agile. Riding around on the low end torque is fun. The fact the gear indicator takes a while to change, and the bike has to be rolling, was something new to me. The special version looked pretty amazing.
Hi Neil, thanks, that's interesting. I only really noticed it if I clutched in at a stop without going through the gears ( I know not the best practice) so your explanation solves that mystery. The neutral light was my ultimate saviour.
Guzzis are the business. Reliable, economical, comfortable, practical, simple and perhaps most important they're proper looking bikes. Apart from royal enfield there are no other proper looking bikes out there.
At 6'4" I feel I am being personally attacked by manufacturers; yet another bike I cannot comfortably fit on 😧😢😠😭 Loving the reviews, keep up the good work 😐👍👍👍👍👍
I stopped growing at 6'2" and for me it just fits (knees very close to the cylinderheads). If you have the seat flattened, you won't have a problem though.
At 5'8" I don't fit most bigger bikes. Nearly all adventure bikes and off roaders are way too large to throw a leg over. Think yourself lucky, we can't have everything 😄
I have the v7 special. The twin clocks and wire wheels look much better to me. I used to have a v7 iii special and the new model is a marked improvement. It has a much better engine, suspension, handling, comfort and tyres. There is a recognised problem with the mpg indicator that Guzzi will fix. I have got about 63 mpg in mixed riding over some 5,000 miles. Worthwhile accessories are: Halcyon bar end mirrors (much cheaper and better than Guzzi’s); Hepco and Becker panniers and frames; Pyramid front “Fender Extender”; and a Givi or Motone Customs fly screen.
I purchased the 2021 V7 Centanario this summer. It is a very nice all-around motorcycle. Thanks for nice review of the V7. I love the looks of the retro bikes. The engine has loads of character. The low end torque is awesome. Very happy with the bike.. BTW mine gets 49 MPG (US). The computer indicates about 65 MPG , but my it is about 15 MPG high.
Once broken in 4 to 4500 is the sweet spot. My wife has seen over 100 mph on her V7 II so I wouldn’t call it a slow bike. I’m 6 ft tall and 200 lbs. I have taken her bike on 200 mile day rides. Other than a sore butt requiring more breaks. (She has a gel seat.)I wasn’t fatigued at all. Great mileage. A fun bike and very good looking IMHO. Not for everyone and that’s OK. She has added a Dart screen, Agostini lowered bars, and bar end mirrors. Michelin tires were an excellent change from Pirellis. Stock otherwise. We’re keeping it.
Used to own a V7 Stone and she was a looker and nice engine, however performance wise didn't really do it for me, dissapointed to see single LCD display was dual clock analogue needles that suited the bike. Great review as always thanks Mark.
Great review on a great looking bike. Although I've noticed on these the black Matt paint on the exhausts appear to scratch really easily. I'd go for the special with the chrome pipes. Looks better and probably a bit easier to keep looking nice. Keep up the great reviews, always enjoy watching them. Steve
Way back in time, about 1977 or so my father had a 850T3 which I took out for a ride ocasionally. Well many things have changed over the decades, me included, and I think the new model V7 attracts me a lot. 65 horses is more than enough for all the speed limits in town or on country roads over here in Germany. The comfortable ride and seat hight is what I am looking for. Good fuel economy is welcome. Good review, thanks.
4:56 ''weight quite low down'' , you must explain why to the profane ( not me ). A cx650 was quite top heavy ...Because the transmission of the Honda is located below the crankshaft , not here on the Guz . Would like to know how is the torque managent for the movement of the swing-arm in acceleration . Without paralever like Bmw , does the ground clearance increase in acceleration and is there a risk of dragging the foot pegs if you release the gas at entry of a bend ?
Good review. You captured the feel of it. Lovely bike in town and surprisingly comfortable and composed on longer and faster trips. You quickly find out what it likes and what it doesn't and you'll be rewarded accordingly. That might be what they call " character" and this bike has it.
Great review. I don't have one, although I did go on a fairly long test ride on a used one once. Interestingly, it reminded me of my now long gone '77 Yamaha XS 750 2D in that both were thoroughly enjoyable bikes to ride, with enough character to be entertaining, without being annoying.
You fit the bike very well! Nice review! Thank you and Merry Christmas! Also, I believe it's generation IV not III as you indicated towards the end. :) Cheers mate!
I feel like I am ready for my 2nd bike. Looking for the right one to move on from my 125 cc. I love everything I hear about this Guzzi how it rides well at certain speeds. The look, history of the brand as well I have always been enamoured with Guzzi and I want to be part of this family. How is the clutch and shifting experience. I heard the Guzzi's can be finicky and not the most friendly to slight input error. That they have a character the rider must master, whereas other bikes designs with more forgiveness in mind. Those with experience care to input?
Another bike added to my virtual garage😁....I'd love to try one of these out as I've never ridden a Guzzi. Out of curiosity...what do you prefer Mark...the Interceptor 650 or the Guzzi?....I've an Interceptor but don't let that put you off😃. Another enjoyable review..keep em coming👍
Hi Alan I thought about the interceptor while riding this as it's a similar class bike ...the guzzi is brilliant but probably get an interceptor for £6 k Cheers mark
Hey, I'm getting mine from Dearden, wonderful place indeed 👍🏻 I really enjoyed the review, I've read that the engine is a little lumpy until it has been fully run in then nice and smooth. Your review left me with no unanswered questions so that you again.
@@markpulling12 hey Mark I collected my bike today and mentioned I watched your review and before I said your name they knew you. They spoke highly of you 👍🏻
Great review Mark. Seems like a nice bike with loads of character. Nearly bought a V50 years ago but these look much nicer and more suited to modern roads. Love the all LED lights and good to see italian bikes no longer have the stigma of dodgy electrics!
Infamous Cam Issues. Had Guzzi's all my life; since 1978. Bought a 1200 Stelvio, (6000 miles) cam's went! Piagio (6 month wait for parts) replaced them under recall but charged me for labour, oil and filter. At 8000 miles, cam's went again!! Piago said: "another 6 month wait, and another £380 labour, oil, filter". No chance of purchase refund as others also attempted, by taking Guzzi to court. I decided to leave the Stelvio uncovered in my garden to rust, it's £9000 of rust now, but a very sound reminder to Never buy Guzzi ever again!!
@@tpv59 The members of a UK Guzzi Club took them to court, but owing to a cunning import setup adopted by Piaggio, the Guzzi Owners were unsuccessful. Many, like myself, decided never to buy Guzzi ever again! I still have my classic MK5 Le Mans, but would never entertain a new Guzzi!!
Great bike. The problem is the after sale support from the manufacturer. Horrible. I think even worse than that of Ducati. That is why very few people buy them. I ordered Some accessories in May last year and got them at the very end of the season. Sold it and never want to do anything with Italians anymore. Sad because these are really nice bikes after all.
I’d have a new V7 Stone tomorrow, but only if I could have the normal looking headlamp off the Special Also twin front discs would be essential with the extra power as the single front disc always seemed on it’s limit on the previous version Oh and the twin dials , also off the Special I’d happily tick those option boxes as everything else is Perfect 🏍🙏🏻
I wonder why more bikes aren't shaft drive, much less maintenance. Personally I don't like matt paintwork but overall a nice bike and a great review as always
The paint is much more satin than flat James. It’s actually very nice and also has a pleasant feel/texture to it somehow. Silky. To pinch Marks word the whole bike is very ‘visceral’ including the paint.
Hi, looks a nice bike and the torque is the key these days , the extra 600 £ for some chrome , spot on . Thanks for the video and have A Great New Year .
I'm an old school vespa driver & have been for 30 years now. I'm looking to get a bigger bike & this is one of the ones I'm looking at. I need a comfortable easy bike that I can head off to the Peak District & beyond & it's not going to be hard work. Any advice would be very welcome. Great review.
I always like your reviews. Very real. I like everything about this bike, it completely suits my needs and personality. The stumbling block which keeps me from buying one is the absolute lack of support here in Northwest U.S. Very few dealers (maybe.... one?) .
Put my deposit on one yesterday.I was lucky enough to find a showroom model with 700 euro discount.The v7 special 850 in blue is going to be my next bike (would have been a very difficult decision if they also had the grey one 😅)
Nice review. Absolutely love this motorcycle. Do you think it is too much of power or weight for new rider? I am in my 40s, and really don't want Honda or similar. But this really exciting. Afraid it is not 1st bike material. What do you think?
It's a chunky weight bike ....like you say it's not really first bike material....but if you take it extremely careful you should be ok ...it's the weight that will probably catch you out and you may drop it as you haven't got bike handling skills yet ....yes it's powerful but the throttle works both ways.....I always recommend something like a Honda cb500f as a good starter then you could get the guzzi Good luck cheers mark
I'm sure the cool England climate makes the Guzzi happy, but what about hotter climates in stop and go traffic? Liquid cooled gives no worries, but in high temperatures with traffic jams?
Nice bike prefer these v's to the BM boxer flats they always look tidy don't know if they still do a 1,000 cc bike but if so it would be worth a go I reckon cheers Mark : ) .
Do all the guzzis have leather seats? They do look like a solidly built MC. The V traverse engine is my only concern or question. I have the same problem with the BMWs with their opposing cylinder. Those hot cylinder heads right there where ur legs go, doesn't entice me. Looks unique, but the first time I'd set my pants afire I'd be selling it. Looks cool though. Thanks
What a lovely bike!!!! Guzzi's bikes are so amazing!! Thanx for the excellent review 👍 I enjoy very much. It is my favourite for my age and personality (50 years), to have chill and relax rides with class ✌. Do you thing it is beginner friendly?! Thanx and cheers mate ✌
I’m looking to buy my next bike in spring. I’m 50 and have had decades of bikes. Looking for something unique and nostalgic, this might be the ticket. I live in Wisconsin and there’s a MG dealer near Milwaukee. Gonna check these out.
My fav is the V9 roamer! That next please😉. I think if you are considering something like this gonna have to test the Interceptor first. Money no object a Guzzi for me. I love the fact they gave them 20litre tanks. Edit 4000 rpm 70mph...nice. Ahh some people said the gears were a bit of a negative with the guzzis (from another review).
Some numbers, maybe. The V7 850 produces 80% of its 73Nm at 3000. That is 58Nm. The V7ii (mine) produces 60Nm at 2800, but the 850 is now some 25kg heavier, that's half a hundredweight, or like plonking my 16 stone on the bike instead of your 75kg. Every time they've had to meet more emission standards they've had to move the torque further up the revs. This time they've had to increase engine capacity to keep the same performance, because the weight went up. Yes, they can be ridden in a leisurely manner, the enormously long power band allows that. They're none to fussy about which gear they're in. But they're not slow, that torque can shove the bike from 0-60 in the 5 seconds, which is much the same as a Goldwing. Rather different to a sports bike, an overtake mobile-chicane car can be change up then open throttle. Handling is quite good too. More stable than fast-acting. Good lean angle when you need it. Seems to prefer the rear preload wound down to soft. Ignores lumps and bumps. Doesn't wag its tail and flap about like a barn door like some bikes do.
that seems to be a good bike , for me i would buy the one with twin clocks without that daft wings indicator bits sticking out .. other than that i think more people should buy these ...
Hi Mark! Awesome review, as always. I am looking to bye a retro style bike something with soul and test rode V7 stone, as one contender, great ride, on top of my list.., everything sat nice with me only gearbox not.. finding neutral on that demo was like winning 6 on a lottery.. really annoying, and was missing that dual clocks from special. But because I am all year rider, special with a lot of chrome is out :/ Also RE Interceptor 650 ( also chromed other wise would buy one!), Kawasaki z 650 rs( lowed it but bit too small and modern).. if you know something similar and for all year rider please let me know.
Many thanks for the comment 😃 Ducati monster maybe...I think there is a nice 800 ish size Other than that Vulcan 650 but probably a bit too modern Cheers mark
Would this be a good one for a bucket list trip from Grand Rapids Michigan to Anchorage Alaska and back??? I had to sell my 850T a couple of years ago, so I'm potentially in the market for another Goose.....
Dear Mark, I love your content. Youy are nearly as tall as I am, so seeing you on a bike is a good reference for myself. Is it possible to get the new z650rs for a testride? kind regards Emile
What’s so great about these moto guzzis is they don’t egg you on to go fast, or want to pass every slow car - they make you actually want to relax and chill cause they’re so enjoyable to ride slow. This makes them a safer bike cause speed is the killer. I love my v7. Love the engine and riding position and feel of the bike.
Good post.
Well said Michael ...it makes just 60 mph riding very enjoyable ...just doesn't egg you on like you said :)
yes good point …i feel it’s a complete package compared to one i own the enfield 650 …feel i need to upgrade parts etc
Same here
I have the same feeling on my W800. You just enjoy riding not hurtling.
My son bought the 2021 V7 this summer and I was finally able to take it out for a ride this week. What a nice motorcycle! It is a perfect combination of old school simplicity mixed with enough modern technologies in a rider friendly package that reminds me of how bikes were meant to be: fun, enjoyable transportation. I have a Harley Sportster and a Harley Road King along with a Yamaha SR500 in my garage. All are simple fun to ride motorcycles. This V7 s what I would call a rider's motorcycle. I may well have to add one to my stable. I am constantly amazed at how many people compare bikes like Harleys and Moto Guzzis to modern soulless sport bikes saying the sport bike will blow these others away. They are sadly missing the whole point of riding a motorcycle in the first place. Still, this Guzzi has just enough power and handing to certainly put a smile on your face. And knowing you are not riding just another cookie cutter machine is a rather pleasing feeling. Moto Guzzi did a fine spectacular job wih the upgrade on this 2021 V7.
Thanks Paul great comment ☺️
Different strokes. A relaxed neo classic with character and sports focused bike are just different experiences. Neither is objectively better, just best for a person.
Sports bikes can have character and soul ..depends on the bike, the rider etc. everyone has they’re own opinion on the point of riding motorcycles and are not "missing the point of riding a motorcycle in the first place" just because they don’t share your point of view.
@@gibsonvos5120 Sorry, did not mean to offend. My opinions were just that, my opinions. More importantly is that we all share a common love for the sport of motorcycling regardless of what we ride or how we ride it.
Heck, I've embarrassed sport bike riders with my SSR250 Buccaneer Cafe. It has a whopping 18hp. Key is, don't slow down
I have just been out on my Guzzi 1400 Eldorado. Down the country roads from Marlow in Buckinghamshire, through Henley and on towards Reading. I had Triumphs for many years so fancied a change. Tried other Triumph, Harley Fat Boy and an Indian Chieftain. Then I tried the Guzzi. I was hooked after 10 seconds. A 240 mile test ride nailed it. I have had the bike for 5 years now. Nothing has ever gone wrong. Twice around Europe and its a bike I will never sell. All the Ferrari owners I pass are always cranning their necks to see what it is.
I'm six-four with a 34 inch inseam and I'm very comfortable on mine. After 55 years of riding, it is in fact the most comfortable motorcycle I've ever owned. Love that seat!
I had never ridden a Guzzi, I test rode this model today and liked it so much I bought one.
I just found MG, rode one 10 years ago, now I have 2. Most people have no clue how awesome these are.
Currently own a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 cc that I have had for 20 years. Once took me 120 miles on one cylinder at highway speed when one spark plug wire crapped out on a Sunday morning with no shops open. At almost 70 years old it has gotten too heavy to maneuver in and out of situations. Purchased a 2013 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone at more than 100 pounds less wet weight. Absolutely love it. Will stay with Moto Guzzi for the rest of my riding life. I have owned BMW, Laverda, Ducati, Moto Morini, Triumph, BSA, Zundapp, Indian, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Cagiva and loved them all for different reasons, but the fact that I can physically handle the weight of a bike that will cruise (illegally) at 85-90 mph for as long as I need, looks good, is reliable and affordable and unique, why shop anywhere else?- -Mike Battle
Thanks Mike great comment 😊
I understand your view completely. I too am an older rider and my GS is making me appreciate why I've held on to my 78' Bonneville since new. Much to recommend a "ellemental" machine.
@@rodtew7296 I had a "79 Bonneville bought brand new and for about 1 month could not get the smile off my face when I rode it. Then, gradually I found myself packing more tools to take care of "incidents" and finally got sick of the constant maintenance just to be able to travel from point "A" to point "B" with confidence. Ended up trading it for an "82 BMW GS and never looked back to Triumph. --Mike
@@elisabattle8456 A early, (or late) Triumph is a motorcycle to partner with. If you can't invest in the relationship then you did the right thing.
Just bought a 1989 Mille from USA as my rally Ike in Oz, now considering a V7 as a stable mate.
I've got a 2021 V7 Centenario. It's the bike that brought me back to motorcycling after a 16 year hiatus. Used to ride sport bikes exclusively and I could not be happier to be riding this retro standard now. For me, everything about the machine screams cool.
I agree very cool
Cheers mark
Try riding twistys in 3rd, feet on passenger pegs. 3rd is good to 70mph ez.
As a mature beginner, this really seems like a bike steeped in class. At some point I really must try one. I love the corsa edition with the retro racing look
Great to see the V7 reviewed Mark. I have a 2015 V7ii Special as a 2nd bike (also have GS 1200 Rallye)and it's addictive. It'll do motorways no problem but shine in cities, A and B roads. They are fun to ride relaxed but a giggle when you thrash them too. Build quality superb, solid, and no complex electronics. Visceral and full of character. Came across it by accident when researching Street Twins. The tank range 230 miles and shaft drive are big plus points few reviewers mention. And the size, unless you're 6' plus is very user-friendly. Anyone thinking about a Street Twin or RE650 should check them out. I got mine with 3500 miles on the clock in showroom condition for £4750. Yes, the new one has a bigger engine but also more weight so worth checking out earlier models and saving a few grand. Cheers.
Good post. Has it been totally reliable, G S?
@@1990-t1j I did have a problem at 4500 miles, faulty lambda sensor in the exhaust. The bike hadn't been used for a year by the previous owner which may have contributed. Otherwise good as gold. If you are on FB join the V7 group and you'll see owners are very happy. Just got the 6000-mile service, £150. In contrast, my GS has had £3000 of warranty repairs done in 1st year of ownership.
Thanks ...I wondered what the earlier models were like ,sound great save a bit of ££ cheers mark
@@GJS-live Thanks. The warranty bill on your GS doesn't surprise me one bit. I did 91,000 miles on an 1100. All sorts of things went wrong with it. I like the sound of these MGs.
Thank You 'GS' for your comments. Very much APPRECIATED.
What size engine on your 2015 V7 Please?? 700cc?? (I do not know)
Contemplating getting a 2022 V7 Special. Here in OZ, they are asking about $19,000 AUD !!! ( WOW )
Thank You and Regards.
So I've just bought a v7 850 special, and had my first ride( if you don't include the test ride)on a Guzzi in 53 years of riding bikes. Only done 112 miles on it and running it in. It's returning an impressive 73 mpg, and I'm rather
heavy. Love the way this bike rides, and the feel of the engine, and the way it cleans up real easy. With all the salt on the roads just now I was expecting to be doing a bit of elbow greasing, but it all washed off the exhaust pipes,barrels,heads and rocker covers, hadn't baked on so I concluded it doesn't get overly hot. It's not a fast bike by today's standards, but certainly entertaining, and I happen to know its capable of going faster than the majority of riders are 😉.
Sounds great nick great choice
It certainly will go faster then most riders dare go
Got one exactly the same apart from those neat mirrors... Had it 6mths 2500mls and absolutely love it...I concur with everything you say Mark , excellent fair review.. Every time I pass it in the garage, lifts my spirts and can't wait for spring. Although with my heated gloves and vest have sneaked out occasionally on decent winter days..( if only we had that kit years ago when I had to commute daily on the bike throughout the year.)
Being retro in years myself ( septuagenarian.) the V7 suits me just fine, can comfortably spend hours in the saddle, loads of grunt and handles beautifully loads of character, trickles easily through standing traffic. Looks unique outside the cafe, a proper motorcycle...What's not to like... a cracking bike...
Thanks Ian great comment 🙂
I need those mirrors on mine but they've been out of stock since I bought mine 12 months ago 😬
Guzzi bikes are something special.
The engine, the design (i love how the tank is formed) the character...
One day i will get one of those beauties!
Great vid Mark! After watching this and many other reviews over the last few weeks I tried a V7 Stone today and ended up getting one in the Arancione Rame (orange copper) color as a stablemate to my 2012 Concours. I love my Connie, but she's a big girl and for a while now I've thought how much fun it'd be to have a nice middleweight to throw around on shorter rides, as well as something that flows air better during our hot Central Texas summers. I knew I wanted something other than another inline 4, and I think the V7's transverse V-twin is pretty much the polar opposite character-wise. At first I thought the vibration might be too much "character" for me, but after several miles it grew on me, and in conjunction with the wonderful torque, it really gave me that old school man/machine connectedness feeling. And speaking of torque, even though I expected it from the reviews I'd seen, it pulls even better than I thought it would! My Connie has an ECU flash that greatly enhances the torque at low RPM, and yet the V7 felt darn near as snappy between 2500-3500 RPM! It's very easy to short-shift and still get decent acceleration, which will help with the fun factor as I'm breaking it in. I was also quite surprised at how little wind blast I got even at 70 mph, and that was with my stiffer cool weather textile jacket. Should be even less noticeable with my mesh jacket. The bike I rode and ended up getting was brand new, not a demo, and yet the tranny was smoother than I expected. Clutch pull was ridiculously easy, although like some reviewers I found the friction zone on the wide side. Doesn't bother me though - just adds to the bike's character. And as some have also noted finding neutral required a bit more finesse than with my Connie, but not enough to be annoying. Even if it doesn't become easier I know I'll get accustomed to it since probably half the bikes I've owned have had this issue. Really looking forward to when I bring the little fella home!
Hi thanks for the great comment
Hope you enjoy your guzzi great choice
Best wishes mark
They are lovely bikes and work particularly well when ridden in a smooth, mechanically sympathetic way, IMHO. It’s the sounds, the throb, the charms. Enjoy like a nice glass of wine, not a sambuka shot.👍 I am biased though I have one.
Good review about what these Guzzi are all about ; thanks Mark; maid me glad that my brother and I just purchased two 2021 V7 specials yesterday one blue and one silver; I’m 68 and retired now; retro-classic look and easygoing riding characteristics really grabbed us and we’re Italian with a bit of bios
Nice one John great choice 😚😊
I'm with Michael Oh. I, too, own a 2019 V7 Special and love it for the same reasons. He articulated the magic of Moto Guzzi very well--they really do make safe, lawful riding incredibly enjoyable. The V100 Mandello is right in the center of my radar for an early spring 2024 purchase.
Yeah Guzzi's have always been about the torque, tons of it. Nice to hear the throaty and very recognisable Guzzi V7 sound as well. Although the old carbureter Guzzi's had a legendary sound!
Well over here in Italy it's sold very well , esp the Centenario. Great review mate, thanks 👍
Thanks James 😊
Great review. This is a real motorbike, and not a weekend play-thing. I owned a Honda CX500 back in the day, and it was a super machine. The Guzzi is a worthy modern day replacement.
Oh wow... I had the Cx500 as well, shaft drive. I might get this and do a full circle.
A distant neighbour has a CX500, I see/hear it daily :-)
I do not think v7 is "modern replacement" 😊 It is rather "back to old, good days".
CB500X is some progress in engine development.
If only cb500x has really 500cc engine and drive shaft or belt 🙂
Really good review Mark. Straight to the point and everything we need to know.
Another great review. Would be a nice bike to have in the garage for leisurely summer rides. I actually think the Stone version is the best looking of the V7s.
Me too :)
Thanks Mark for this excellent review! I'll test ride this bike tomorrow morning! I really like your reviews, which I just discovered. You do them in a very simple and well focused way, and you mention all those things that I find extremely important, but most other testers completely leaves out:
How fast is the engine spinning at a certain speed in 6th, fuel consumption, vibrations, and wind comfort. And ease of handling in city traffic. Excellent, go on like this! 👍
Many thanks Mikael 😀
Excellent. I bought the Special version October '21, love it to bits. Had two older Guzzis years ago, this is way better than them. The mpg display is next to useless, so I ignore it and just go by the trip odo (i.e., the 'old fashioned' way), and low fuel light to get an idea when to next fill up. Mpg for me so far seems to be high 40's low 50's, depends what sort of roads you're on, traffic etc. Re 'shaft-jacking' and torque reaction - these are things non-Guzzi / BMW people seem to focus on - the simple answer is, you cease to noitce after a short while, then it's never an issue. 😁
Have had over a dozen guzzis over the past 40 years ,currently contemplating selling my california to buy one of these.Alternarively I could sell my carbied dynaglide but I love carbies good place to be in.Ill have to take one for a test ride.
Guzzi make their owners smile. As none Guzzi owner you notice it. For that reason alone maybe worth considering getting one
Average fuel consumption at relaxed speeds (country lanes) of my V7 850 Special is about 22 km/liter or 62 mpg (imperial). My tripmeter indicates 33 km/liter, hence is 50% optimistic. I also have a V7 III Special which does about 23 km/liter and on that one the tripmeter is correct.
Thanks for the info ....so maybe the trip computer is a little optimistic on these then ...I'd like to do a proper fuel calculation on these cheers mark
@@markpulling12 "A little optimistic". I'll say. My 2021 V7 Stone is currently indicating 82.9 mpg and has been as high as 85 mpg - I wish :-)
So this is not so great result as some say.
I'd say I'm not surprised. This is simple, air cooled engine. The last thing I expect is the it is super economy.
So if u ride not in "relaxing" way but just normal (not speeding) consumption will be probably higher than 5l/100km.
Thank so much for the review. I had no idea that the V7 is so good. That engine sound is addictive, and from looking around the bike seems to be very reliable too. Shortlisted!
Thanks yes it's good value at £8 k
Thanks Mark, another very thorough informative review and very timely for me as I've just put a deposit on a V7 Centenario. I've been a long time Guzzi fan and the V7 will sit alongside my V8TT and if it turns out to be a good touring bike as well as street bike it will be my replacement for the V85 as my legs seem to be getting shorter as I near retirement!! V85 has proved to be very frugal and reliable so expecting the same from the V7. MG are hidden gems in my opinion offering relaxed laid back riding as well as being able to handle beautifully when hussled along.
Thanks Richard sounds great 👍
like to hear your thoughts on your new purchase if it happens ..please
I think you’ll love it; good vibes (literally) when relaxed but also great to hustle a bit with very useable performance. 2-3 hours on a naked is enough for me but otherwise very comfortable.
@@Dreddingbath love the might i say “military styling of v7 . it’s deft one i want to ride very soon 👍
I think from the steering head back it looks lovely.I like the shaft drive a lot.The front end however for me looks unfinished.A second disc would look great.Separate speedometer and rev counter would look much nicer.That speedo/dash being off centre would drive me nuts and stop me from buying one.I really like the way you present your reviews in such a calm manner.Thanks for taking the time.
Ok Trevor 👍 my pleasure
Look up the classic version with twin instruments and other options
Yep. Front looks like product of Asia. This cheap shock, china-like dash, plastic fender. Ther's nothing I like there.
I've just ordered a new yellow 850 V7, it should arrive in about two weeks. I currently have a 2005 Breva 750 and 2016 V7 ii and think they're brilliant bikes and so much fun to ride.
Thanks Carl 😁
I recently bought a Breva as my first Moto Guzzi and I love it - the sound and the character put a smile on my face every time I ride it.
EXCELLENT review.
You have a Very calm voice and nice to listen too.
10/10.
Excellent work.
Thanks very much terry ☺️
I had a 2016 V7 for a few years. It was a real mixed bag. The master cylinder cap was leaky. Somehow oil kept ending up in the airbox. One wild day the rear of the shaft drive dumped about half a quart of oil for reasons that were never determined. The ignition had to be re-soldered as the wires just fell out one day. Repairs took forever, parts were slow to arrive. Very few mechanics in town would work on one.
All that said, I loved riding the thing and still kinda miss it. Will never buy one again.
Lovely bike - great review Mark. That feel from a Guzzi shaft drive is priceless. Used to love it when I had a California EV. The pistons in those cylinders are huge btw - as I am sure you must have realised 😄
Thanks Dennis yes great bike
Best wishes mark
A beautiful retro bike with a lot of character and a nice sound. Well done Mark.
Thanks Louis ☺️ really enjoyed it
Great vid thanks. I've had an 850 V7 Centenario since July and am loving it. Agree with your findings: grunt (if not outright top-end power but that's fine with me), comfort, relaxed but solid handling, good mpg, plenty of character. Only downside from me is the (very) sudden engine braking if you chop the throttle suddenly, much better to roll it off gently.
Thanks jim
I purchased the 850 Stone in black in the autumn. I noticed the sudden engine braking too, but I've got used to it. One thing I've found is a very stiff gear change from 1st to 2nd which disappears when the bike has warmed up. I love it though and it's so solid and well built. Would last a lifetime if well maintained, which is a big appeal in our throw-away age.
I've always fancied one of these as a second bike. Thanks Mark for you superb review 👍
Thanks for the comment 🙂
Long live Moto Guzzi! Thanks for the lovely review.
I picked up my ne V7 Special yesterday.
It's a really simple , but refined motorcycle.
It's very easy to ride and handles really well.
It's like a a very plush tractor And I mean that as a compliment.
It feels strong and the bike is all about the engine.
Without doubt a keeper of a bike.
Hi Trevor I like that saying plush tractor....in a nice way sums it up well
Best wishes mark
@@markpulling12 yesterday was absolutely freezing on the 159 mile ride home.
In the wet and somewhat icy conditions it never gave me cause for concern. The power delivery was smooth and that engine just makes you smile.
Hi Mark. I had a ride on a V7 850 like this round the Gower Peninsula in Wales recently. It really was great fun on the smaller A and B roads, and as you said the weight feels low and its very agile. Riding around on the low end torque is fun. The fact the gear indicator takes a while to change, and the bike has to be rolling, was something new to me. The special version looked pretty amazing.
Haha I'm hopefully going to the Gower sometime next year :)
Yes I saw a special in the showroom
Looked amazing cheers mark
The gear indicator is actually calculated based on the road speed and rpm, hence you need to be rolling with the clutch engaged for it to work.
Hi Neil, thanks, that's interesting. I only really noticed it if I clutched in at a stop without going through the gears ( I know not the best practice) so your explanation solves that mystery. The neutral light was my ultimate saviour.
Guzzis are the business. Reliable, economical, comfortable, practical, simple and perhaps most important they're proper looking bikes.
Apart from royal enfield there are no other proper looking bikes out there.
Another well produced video. Really clear you understand what this bike is all about.
Thanks Chris ☺️
At 6'4" I feel I am being personally attacked by manufacturers; yet another bike I cannot comfortably fit on 😧😢😠😭
Loving the reviews, keep up the good work 😐👍👍👍👍👍
Many thanks
I stopped growing at 6'2" and for me it just fits (knees very close to the cylinderheads). If you have the seat flattened, you won't have a problem though.
At 5'8" I don't fit most bigger bikes. Nearly all adventure bikes and off roaders are way too large to throw a leg over. Think yourself lucky, we can't have everything 😄
I have the v7 special. The twin clocks and wire wheels look much better to me. I used to have a v7 iii special and the new model is a marked improvement. It has a much better engine, suspension, handling, comfort and tyres.
There is a recognised problem with the mpg indicator that Guzzi will fix. I have got about 63 mpg in mixed riding over some 5,000 miles.
Worthwhile accessories are: Halcyon bar end mirrors (much cheaper and better than Guzzi’s); Hepco and Becker panniers and frames; Pyramid front “Fender Extender”; and a Givi or Motone Customs fly screen.
Thanks for that info 😊
Lovely bikes that always grab my attention, the special edition with the wire wheels would be my pick.
Me too peter
I purchased the 2021 V7 Centanario this summer. It is a very nice all-around motorcycle. Thanks for nice review of the V7. I love the looks of the retro bikes. The engine has loads of character. The low end torque is awesome. Very happy with the bike.. BTW mine gets 49 MPG (US). The computer indicates about 65 MPG , but my it is about 15 MPG high.
Thanks yes I've read the computer reads high .... thanks for the comment
Great bike 🚲 cheers mark
Once broken in 4 to 4500 is the sweet spot. My wife has seen over 100 mph on her V7 II so I wouldn’t call it a slow bike. I’m 6 ft tall and 200 lbs. I have taken her bike on 200 mile day rides. Other than a sore butt requiring more breaks. (She has a gel seat.)I wasn’t fatigued at all. Great mileage. A fun bike and very good looking IMHO. Not for everyone and that’s OK. She has added a Dart screen, Agostini lowered bars, and bar end mirrors. Michelin tires were an excellent change from Pirellis. Stock otherwise. We’re keeping it.
Thanks Kenneth sounds great 👍
What Michelin tyres did you choose?
@@punkrockdidi Pilot Activ
@@kennethhancock2433 thx!
Used to own a V7 Stone and she was a looker and nice engine, however performance wise didn't really do it for me, dissapointed to see single LCD display was dual clock analogue needles that suited the bike. Great review as always thanks Mark.
Thanks Dave ...yes nice torque .. Just for cruising really cheers mark
The V7 850 Special has the analogue dials, LED indicators and an "old style" halogen headlight.
Great review on a great looking bike. Although I've noticed on these the black Matt paint on the exhausts appear to scratch really easily. I'd go for the special with the chrome pipes. Looks better and probably a bit easier to keep looking nice.
Keep up the great reviews, always enjoy watching them.
Steve
Cheers Steve ....yes special for me too !
Think I’m in the minority thinking the Stone has the looks over the Special... although I wish the twin dials were available on the Stone.
Way back in time, about 1977 or so my father had a 850T3 which I took out for a ride ocasionally. Well many things have changed over the decades, me included, and I think the new model V7 attracts me a lot. 65 horses is more than enough for all the speed limits in town or on country roads over here in Germany. The comfortable ride and seat hight is what I am looking for. Good fuel economy is welcome. Good review, thanks.
Thanks Tom greetings to Germany:)
My fave reviewer on a bike I recently bought! Happy days.
Thanks Jon great choice
Great video! I just bought a 2066 low millage example. It only gas 2300 kilometres on it. There defiantly a good low budget option.
Why these aren't more popular I don't know.
Excellent review as always Mark! Love this bike!
As always a very good review Mark. You answered all the questions I had about the bike and the other commenters. My next bike. Thank you.
Thanks Adam best wishes mark :)
Great review, and satisfying-looking machine. But I don’t think my OCD would cope with the off-centre dial😳
4:56 ''weight quite low down'' , you must explain why to the profane ( not me ). A cx650 was quite top heavy ...Because the transmission of the Honda is located below the crankshaft , not here on the Guz . Would like to know how is the torque managent for the movement of the swing-arm in acceleration . Without paralever like Bmw , does the ground clearance increase in acceleration and is there a risk of dragging the foot pegs if you release the gas at entry of a bend ?
Great review Mark I've just bought one, very simple and easy and very economical with a bit of character, I've changed the exhausts sounds just right.
Good review. You captured the feel of it. Lovely bike in town and surprisingly comfortable and composed on longer and faster trips. You quickly find out what it likes and what it doesn't and you'll be rewarded accordingly. That might be what they call " character" and this bike has it.
Thanks Thomas yes this bike certainly has character
Cheers mark
Great review. I don't have one, although I did go on a fairly long test ride on a used one once. Interestingly, it reminded me of my now long gone '77 Yamaha XS 750 2D in that both were thoroughly enjoyable bikes to ride, with enough character to be entertaining, without being annoying.
You fit the bike very well! Nice review! Thank you and Merry Christmas! Also, I believe it's generation IV not III as you indicated towards the end. :) Cheers mate!
I feel like I am ready for my 2nd bike. Looking for the right one to move on from my 125 cc. I love everything I hear about this Guzzi how it rides well at certain speeds. The look, history of the brand as well I have always been enamoured with Guzzi and I want to be part of this family. How is the clutch and shifting experience. I heard the Guzzi's can be finicky and not the most friendly to slight input error. That they have a character the rider must master, whereas other bikes designs with more forgiveness in mind. Those with experience care to input?
Another bike added to my virtual garage😁....I'd love to try one of these out as I've never ridden a Guzzi. Out of curiosity...what do you prefer Mark...the Interceptor 650 or the Guzzi?....I've an Interceptor but don't let that put you off😃.
Another enjoyable review..keep em coming👍
Hi Alan I thought about the interceptor while riding this as it's a similar class bike ...the guzzi is brilliant but probably get an interceptor for £6 k
Cheers mark
Hey, I'm getting mine from Dearden, wonderful place indeed 👍🏻 I really enjoyed the review, I've read that the engine is a little lumpy until it has been fully run in then nice and smooth. Your review left me with no unanswered questions so that you again.
Thanks Martin can you mention to the team you have seen my video ..it'll win me lots of brownie points :) cheers mark
@@markpulling12 will do, been dealing with Julie and Nigel so when I go to collect you’ll be mentioned 👍🏻
@@markpulling12 hey Mark I collected my bike today and mentioned I watched your review and before I said your name they knew you. They spoke highly of you 👍🏻
@@nitram_nosnibor thanks Martin yes I get on well with them there cheers for that ... enjoy the bike
Great review Mark. Seems like a nice bike with loads of character. Nearly bought a V50 years ago but these look much nicer and more suited to modern roads. Love the all LED lights and good to see italian bikes no longer have the stigma of dodgy electrics!
Infamous Cam Issues.
Had Guzzi's all my life; since 1978. Bought a 1200 Stelvio, (6000 miles) cam's went! Piagio (6 month wait for parts) replaced them under recall but charged me for labour, oil and filter.
At 8000 miles, cam's went again!! Piago said: "another 6 month wait, and another £380 labour, oil, filter".
No chance of purchase refund as others also attempted, by taking Guzzi to court.
I decided to leave the Stelvio uncovered in my garden to rust, it's £9000 of rust now, but a very sound reminder to Never buy Guzzi ever again!!
WOW !!!
BUMMER.
So Sad to hear this.
As far as you know, has MG fixed the issue??
Regards.
@@tpv59 The members of a UK Guzzi Club took them to court, but owing to a cunning import setup adopted by Piaggio, the Guzzi Owners were unsuccessful. Many, like myself, decided never to buy Guzzi ever again!
I still have my classic MK5 Le Mans, but would never entertain a new Guzzi!!
@@TheChickenLine
THANK YOU for your comment.
GREATLY APPRECIATED.
I am SPEECHLESS at what happened.
SPEECHLESS.
Sincere regards.
Great video, thinking of buying one. Just had a new knee so should be ready to ride after Christmas. Nice video,again .
Many thanks Gary .....speedy recovery on the knee
Best wishes mark
You got about a bit for that review Mark. Several friends of mine have the V7 and love it. Burbles nicely.
Elles sont belles ces Guzzi V7 stone et n'ont rien a envier aux HD ✌️
Great bike. The problem is the after sale support from the manufacturer. Horrible. I think even worse than that of Ducati. That is why very few people buy them. I ordered Some accessories in May last year and got them at the very end of the season. Sold it and never want to do anything with Italians anymore. Sad because these are really nice bikes after all.
Beautiful bike - great review as always. Have a great Christmas, my friend. Not a great biking forecast till next week. Enjoy!
Thanks Daniel ....yes raining Xmas day grrr was hoping for a ride
Have a good one aswell :)
@@markpulling12 Is that the 'grrr' of a V2?? Thanks!
Thanks for the review Mark, I keep toying with one of these to replace my NC750x, similarly laid back but a lot more character.
I’d have a new V7 Stone tomorrow, but only if I could have the normal looking headlamp off the Special
Also twin front discs would be essential with the extra power as the single front disc always seemed on it’s limit on the previous version
Oh and the twin dials , also off the Special
I’d happily tick those option boxes as everything else is Perfect 🏍🙏🏻
The headlight on the Stone is a good light. I ride alot at night and this is one of the only machines that doesn't need auxiliary lighting.
I wonder why more bikes aren't shaft drive, much less maintenance. Personally I don't like matt paintwork but overall a nice bike and a great review as always
Cheers James yes I like shaft drive :)
Shaft drive bikes, more expensive to produce, heavier and a slight power loss over chain drive.
The paint is much more satin than flat James. It’s actually very nice and also has a pleasant feel/texture to it somehow. Silky. To pinch Marks word the whole bike is very ‘visceral’ including the paint.
Yes I understand the silky paint but I prefer a high gloss, all personal taste.
@@jamesbarrie2458 If you want the full gloss paintwork go for the Special.
Great review as always. Any chance of doing a review on a Moto Morini xcape, would love to hear what you think. 👍
I'll send them an email Patrick and see if I can get some demo bikes
Best wishes mark
Hi, looks a nice bike and the torque is the key these days , the extra 600 £ for some chrome , spot on . Thanks for the video and have A Great New Year .
Many thanks you too !
Great review! 70 mpg is amazing. Would get to the S of france for £65! And shaft drive great too…
I'm an old school vespa driver & have been for 30 years now. I'm looking to get a bigger bike & this is one of the ones I'm looking at. I need a comfortable easy bike that I can head off to the Peak District & beyond & it's not going to be hard work. Any advice would be very welcome.
Great review.
Currently own a street twin after having a re int 650. Would love to give this one a go!
Thanks it's a great ride 😊
There's a good review on YT comparing ST, RE650, and this bike. Bennetts I think?
@@GJS-live That was a V7 750, the previous model. Just FYI.
I always like your reviews. Very real. I like everything about this bike, it completely suits my needs and personality. The stumbling block which keeps me from buying one is the absolute lack of support here in Northwest U.S. Very few dealers (maybe.... one?) .
Thanks for the comment Steve ... shame lack of dealers in NW states...is that Montana area ?
Cheers mark
Not that many here in the Uk...
@@markpulling12 Oregon
@@MauriceTarantulas
Same here too in OZ. (Australia)
(VERY SMALL market)
Eventually after all the delays I passed my full bike license. Picking up a v7 classic in a week and a bit!
Put my deposit on one yesterday.I was lucky enough to find a showroom model with 700 euro discount.The v7 special 850 in blue is going to be my next bike (would have been a very difficult decision if they also had the grey one 😅)
Great review Mr P! Really love Moto Guzzi bikes. Which do you prefer, the V85TT or this?
Hi I prefer the look of the v7 but for some: reason I found v,85 nicer to ride ?
Cheers mark
I do like these, great price too. Beautiful machine. Thanks for the excellent review. 👍
My pleasure
Lovely bikes with loads of character, the new water cooled Mandello will be a more modern sports tourer, seriously interested.
Nice review. Absolutely love this motorcycle. Do you think it is too much of power or weight for new rider? I am in my 40s, and really don't want Honda or similar. But this really exciting. Afraid it is not 1st bike material. What do you think?
It's a chunky weight bike ....like you say it's not really first bike material....but if you take it extremely careful you should be ok ...it's the weight that will probably catch you out and you may drop it as you haven't got bike handling skills yet ....yes it's powerful but the throttle works both ways.....I always recommend something like a Honda cb500f as a good starter then you could get the guzzi
Good luck cheers mark
I'm sure the cool England climate makes the Guzzi happy, but what about hotter climates in stop and go traffic? Liquid cooled gives no worries, but in high temperatures with traffic jams?
Nice bike prefer these v's to the BM boxer flats they always look tidy don't know if they still do a 1,000 cc bike but if so it would be worth a go I reckon cheers Mark : ) .
Do all the guzzis have leather seats? They do look like a solidly built MC. The V traverse engine is my only concern or question. I have the same problem with the BMWs with their opposing cylinder. Those hot cylinder heads right there where ur legs go, doesn't entice me. Looks unique, but the first time I'd set my pants afire I'd be selling it. Looks cool though. Thanks
Excellent review of a delightfully chilled bike.
What a lovely bike!!!! Guzzi's bikes are so amazing!! Thanx for the excellent review 👍 I enjoy very much. It is my favourite for my age and personality (50 years), to have chill and relax rides with class ✌. Do you thing it is beginner friendly?! Thanx and cheers mate ✌
I’m looking to buy my next bike in spring. I’m 50 and have had decades of bikes. Looking for something unique and nostalgic, this might be the ticket. I live in Wisconsin and there’s a MG dealer near Milwaukee. Gonna check these out.
Thanks Michael these are great bikes cheers mark
My fav is the V9 roamer! That next please😉.
I think if you are considering something like this gonna have to test the Interceptor first. Money no object a Guzzi for me.
I love the fact they gave them 20litre tanks.
Edit 4000 rpm 70mph...nice. Ahh some people said the gears were a bit of a negative with the guzzis (from another review).
Yes in my mind the interceptor is in the same category ,cheaper I know but the guzzi is lovely
Cheers mark
Thank you Mark for an excellent review! Currently looking to buy One. ;0)
Some numbers, maybe. The V7 850 produces 80% of its 73Nm at 3000. That is 58Nm. The V7ii (mine) produces 60Nm at 2800, but the 850 is now some 25kg heavier, that's half a hundredweight, or like plonking my 16 stone on the bike instead of your 75kg. Every time they've had to meet more emission standards they've had to move the torque further up the revs. This time they've had to increase engine capacity to keep the same performance, because the weight went up.
Yes, they can be ridden in a leisurely manner, the enormously long power band allows that. They're none to fussy about which gear they're in. But they're not slow, that torque can shove the bike from 0-60 in the 5 seconds, which is much the same as a Goldwing. Rather different to a sports bike, an overtake mobile-chicane car can be change up then open throttle.
Handling is quite good too. More stable than fast-acting. Good lean angle when you need it. Seems to prefer the rear preload wound down to soft. Ignores lumps and bumps. Doesn't wag its tail and flap about like a barn door like some bikes do.
Thanks Jeff for the info
Cheers mark
that seems to be a good bike , for me i would buy the one with twin clocks without that daft wings indicator bits sticking out .. other than that i think more people should buy these ...
Definitely Simon it's a great bike ☺️
Fun video! What’s unique about the shaft drive how does it feel ?
Cheers mate
USA
Hi it doesn't really feel any different...but you've got the advantage of no chain to oil or adjust best wishes mark
Hi Mark! Awesome review, as always. I am looking to bye a retro style bike something with soul and test rode V7 stone, as one contender, great ride, on top of my list.., everything sat nice with me only gearbox not.. finding neutral on that demo was like winning 6 on a lottery.. really annoying, and was missing that dual clocks from special. But because I am all year rider, special with a lot of chrome is out :/ Also RE Interceptor 650 ( also chromed other wise would buy one!), Kawasaki z 650 rs( lowed it but bit too small and modern).. if you know something similar and for all year rider please let me know.
Many thanks for the comment 😃
Ducati monster maybe...I think there is a nice 800 ish size
Other than that Vulcan 650 but probably a bit too modern
Cheers mark
Would this be a good one for a bucket list trip from Grand Rapids Michigan to Anchorage Alaska and back??? I had to sell my 850T a couple of years ago, so I'm potentially in the market for another Goose.....
I'd say it would be a dream ride for a trip like that cheers mark
Great review Mark! What was you favorite test ride of 2021?
Hi Pete tracer 9 gt ...I bought one !!
@@markpulling12 fantastic, congratulations that’s an awesome motorcycle! Can’t wait to see your long term owners review video.
Dear Mark, I love your content. Youy are nearly as tall as I am, so seeing you on a bike is a good reference for myself. Is it possible to get the new z650rs for a testride? kind regards Emile
Hi emile is one of the next on the list when it comes out in the new year :)
Best wishes mark
I like that they still put protective boots on the forks. Should keep sh!t away from the seals