Moto Guzzi V7 III - can character overcome faults?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ธ.ค. 2023
- An owners experiences with a Guzzi V7 Carbon edition. Overall the bike is a hit but, there are a few issues to resolve!
The bike is a 2019 Limited Edition V7 III Carbon and has now covered 5,700 miles.
See my first impressions video in this link!
• Moto Guzzi V7 III - Re... - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Currently own a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 cc that I have had for 20 years. Once took me 120 miles on one cylinder at highway speed when one spark plug wire crapped out on a Sunday morning with no shops open. At almost 70 years old it has gotten too heavy to maneuver in and out of situations. Purchased a 2013 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone at more than 100 pounds less wet weight. Absolutely love it. Will stay with Moto Guzzi for the rest of my riding life. I have owned BMW, Laverda, Ducati, Moto Morini, Triumph, BSA, Zundapp, Indian, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Cagiva and loved them all for different reasons, but the fact that I can physically handle the weight of a bike that will cruise (illegally) at 85-90 mph for as long as I need, looks good, is reliable and affordable and unique, why shop anywhere else?- -Mike Battle
Hi Mike, yes the accessibility and physical ease of use of the V7 is a big advantage. 👌
I have owned four moto guzzis since 1979.. I have owned one or the other of these machines continuously up until 2021 when I sold my last moto guzzi Norge..
they’ve never left me stranded. I do all my own work except for two stroke, crankshaft, rebuilding, and cylinder boring. I don’t have the tools for that, but I can handle just about anything else, having been a motorcycle mechanic at three different dealerships, Honda, Yamaha, suzuki, and Kawasaki were sold at those dealerships.
When you buy a moto Guzzi you get A machine made to a standard, not to a price. But they do have electrical problems. Whoever their electrical supplier is, they need to rethink that at moto guzzi .. I can’t explain what a thrill it is to see your oil light come on at 1 o’clock in the morning while you’re doing 80 miles an hour on the interstate by yourself.. Only to find out after pulling over, and removing the valve cover, using a flashlight, and starting your bike to see if you are getting oil through the engine from the oil pump. Only to find out that it was a switch called the oil sending unit failed. I’ve had oil sending unit failures on my first moto , Guzzi, and on my last one.. I believe they are using the same oil sending unit’s that were on my 1979 SP 1000, they are using the same part on the Norge that I had until 2021.. I had that same part, fell on my guzzi V11 sport..
Another port, that is weak in the electrical department, are the relays..
it sounds like the machine in this video has the same relays that I had in my Norge and in my V 11 sport which was a 2004..
it’s been explained to me that when you turn the key on, that circuit that feeds the start relay already has 8 A of draw on that circuit even before you touch the start button.. there are too many parasitic draws on that one circuit to supply enough power to close the switch in the start relay. There is a fix you have to do yourself. On my Norge it was the yellow wire to the start relay. Cut that wire and feed the start relay directly from the positive terminal on the battery. That fixed it on my Norge…
those start relays are 10 amp relays… A member of the mgoc national owners club in the United States, was advertising in the newsletter that he would sell relays for the start problem. A dealer supplied OEM start relay was about $45. And it didn’t fix the problem. This moto guzzi owners club member was selling 30 amp Chinese replacement relays for three dollars. I bought a half a dozen of them, and I was handing them out to friends of mine that had the same issues at the West Virginia moto guzzi rally, which was held every memorial day weekend for decades. i was there 1987 -over 750 moto guzzi’s from all over the country there… what a change since then, I was at the same volunteer Firemans picnic ground that the rally has been held for decades just this past memorial day weekend here in 2023. There were just two of us there… that virus from China sure made major changes..
anyway, those electrical problems, which, when it comes to something like this happening with an Italian motorcycle, it’s just politely called a quirk..
I love moto guzzis.. The most beautiful motorcycle ever made is the 1986 moto guzzi, Lario, 650.. Pictures do not do it justice..
when you own a Guzzi, you always have to have other machines, Japanese machines that are as reliable as a Toyota Corolla. You know it’s gonna get you there, you know it’s always going to start, you know if you ever see one on the side of the road, it’s either out of gas, or the owner is taking a nature break. They just don’t break down. Japanese motorcycles don’t wear out. They are neglected to death..
I have nearly 300,000 combined miles on just my 4 moto guzzis..
never had a breakdown. At the same time, I would not want to ride one from where I live to Sturgis which is 1600 miles one way and then back 1600 miles. I have found them always to be a bit cramped. I am 5‘10“, 30 inch inseam. They seem to be made for someone around 5‘6“ tall, maybe a 28 inch inseam…
I love the handling. I have three videos of my Norge in action when I first got a GoPro camera that my kids bought me. my Norge, in those three videos from that one ride was totally stock, except for handlebar risers.. I just love the way Guzy‘s have such effortless low end grunt and you really don’t have to keep them spinning. I love the heavy flywheel which has the side effect of slow shifting gearbox.. can’t be helped, you have to give the flywheel time to slow down between shifts..they say a guzzi is propelled by a flywheel that is kept spinning by the internal combustion engine…
As perfect as Japanese motorcycles are, and they are perfect, they are lacking one thing. A soul. A moto guzzi has a soul.. they are living breathing things. Whereas, Japanese machines are just souless / perfect things..
That's really interesting Jody, many thanks for your comment 👍
Great for touring. I’ve taken mine many times from Hull to Bantry with zero problems.
I haven't ridden in Ireland for (literally) decades! Must do again, maybe 2024.
I love your sense of humour Sir !
Cheers Peter! Not everyone does 😀
my wife would disagree with you.. she finds my humor, sarcastic
@Jodyrides you'd better watch in secret then 😉
Very interesting thank you, I’ve got a V7 special on order arriving in January
I'm sure you will love it Andrew.
I have v7 stone, and i can watch these v7 videos over and over again. That look, that sound aaaahhh...
It is a unique sound
i feel your pain with the suspension, only now realising how spine jarring my Bellagio is after riding the Tiger. Exhausts sound awesome and the screen blends in nicely to the style of the bike.
The screen does indeed blend in Miles. I'll be interested to see how the Hagon parts improve the ride.
Sounds good, looks good
Cheers Steve.
I have a R1200R too for some years and now a V7 Carbon for some months! They complement each other so well! I love both these fabulous machines!
The R1200R was a good bike, I had it for 2 and a half years but sold it in August to buy a new V100! See my V100 video 💗
@@blueyondermoto yeah, now I am on the Guzzi Hype and definitely need to test ride the V100 one day!
@@edcgadgets-de you should, you will most likely love it.
Hagon suspension is a good upgrade along with those progressive springs
I'll let you know how it works in the spring (no pun intended) 😀
I own aV7 850 Special such a beautiful bike Iove it.. every ride is a lovely experience :) I've owned many bikes over my 30+ years riding exp and the Guzzi ticks all my boxes.. :) Pete
I think we're on the same page Pete!
Looks sick
🤮😜
Hi. I have a V7 850. Living in Devon. I’ve been to Belgium and France twice. NC 500 in Scotland, Skye and Mull. Lake Djstrict and Wales as well as Devon and Cornwall. A couple of soft panniers and a dry bag and find it great for touring. Never any issues. Enjoy.
Thanks Lizard Lost. I too went to Skye in June 2022, at least i think I did, as I couldn't see it for the mist and rain 😀
I agree with you about the suspension, adequate but not great..very hard over bumps. I have the same Carbon dark model from 2018 and have done 16,000 miles with loads of smiles. Had to tighten the gear lever bolt which loosened from vibration but no other mechanical or electrical issues. Starts every time. Plenty enough torque even in 5th and 6th gear. Its a great B road bike. Biggest improvement in handling was switching the original Pirelli demon tyres to some Conti RA 3s. Not a scratchers bike for sure...more of a gentleman's roadster. You can still lean it over to the edge of the tyres in the twisties if you are not doing crazy speeds. Some Agostini pipes gave it a lovely sound. A DNA filter + fuel controller took away some slow speed lumpiness. Plan to keep it a long time. Safe riding and thanks for the review.
You're welcome! Strangely, the hesitant starting has disappeared as mysteriously as it started.
We have a Matt black V7III with a Mistral Exhaust and the bike has been flawless but it’s also the most fun bike we have. So much character. This bike gives us the most fun above the other bikes we have.
Isn't it strange, it's not powerful, not "modern" with lots of fancy trinkets, but it's the most fun! Mistral exhausts are on my "wants" list!
Thanks for your comment 🇭🇺
@@blueyondermoto believe me te Mistral transforms the bike. And indeed. We also have a r1200gs 2014 and that one is ridiculously quick, brake phenomenal. Electronics suspension and much more. It outperforms the V7 is every way and still the V7 is the bike which brings a smile on our face. Basically, the GS is to good, to easy. Sounds strange but it is.
@@motorcyclistfromholland8856 I know exactly what you mean. Greater satisfaction from having to work to get the reward.
@@blueyondermoto that’s exactly what my wife said….she mostly drives the V7
A good review by someone who knows what they are talking about 👍 Unlike Freddie Dobson who hasn’t got a clue on how to review bikes
Many thanks for that comment. 🙂
My V7 III Carbon (dark) is no. 538. For me, the most important improvement on handling and overall riding behavior was getting rid of the original Pirelli Sport Daemons and mounting better tires (almost any other does better). I recommend Conti RoadAttack 3 ( now 4). I changed the rear shocks to Bitubos with preload (ONE adjustment ring 😅) and rebound adjustment, which improve riding behavior on bumpy roads and at higher curving speeds as well as making the bike much better when riding with a rear passenger. If you look for a sound more resembling older Guzzis (i.e., the true Guzzi sound😊) install slip on exhausts from Agostini (which I did) or Mistral. I agree that the seat is not the most comfortable, but it should be forbidden to change that wonderful Alcantara part. I was in Mandello (you MUST go there at least once for making a picture in front of the factory gate with the red color exactly matching the cylinder covers and front Brembo caliper!!) this summer (am living near Munich), and it was just pure joy; absolutely sufficient torque and power for any pass in the Alps, rode about 300 km per day for four days. No problems at all. The little insufficiencies (mine has none): remember this is rather a piece of art than some ordinary bike. Enjoy it. All the best with your bella moto, and thank you for the video Alan! Cheers from Germany
Thank you Sapphire, yes the Alcantara seat will, it is too nice to look at, I'll put up with a bit of numb bum! Mistrals are being considered. Enjoy Bavaria and the Alpine playground!
Hey sapphire, I hope you read my message, I am from Munich too and have a V7 Carbon as well, I would love to meet you for a ride and photo shoot of the bikes! Please respond :)
And I have quite similar modifications, ZARD exhaust and Bitubo WME rear shocks :D and some other nice bits!
Great bike..I have number 253. Fitted Agostinis too for a great sound. Did the same tyre switch and RA3s lasted an impressive 16,000 km. Switched to Metzler Roadtec 01s as the RA4s were not available. Now have 26,000 happy km riding twisty country and mountain roads. Safe riding.
@@edcgadgets-deServus, gerne, aber wie verabreden? (sorry, in letzter Zeit war ich abwesend)
Helpful!
I'm glad you liked it. 👍
So, I fancy the V7 50th Anniversary. Your review (similar age...) inspires me to find one!
They're bikes that get under your skin!
@@blueyondermoto Bu 😀t, I own an Indian Scout & an Aprilia Tuono 660 Factory already? What do I dump? Don't Answer!
@@DCGULL01 ....I've got 3 bikes in the garage. There's your answer 😄
@@blueyondermoto Best answer EVER! Haha
that is a lovely bike indeed
Thank you for your comment. 🙂
To solve the starting issue....Look and see if they are running the current for the starter solenoid through the start button. If they are wire in a relay so the starter button only has to energize the coil of the relay 30 and 85 and the main current for the solenoid goes through the main contacts 86 and 87(to starter solenoid). I have had to do this for my 1992 volvo that was eating ignition switches and my neighbors emergency generator both were maybe it will start maybe it won't. Manufacturers are trying to save money and their switches aren't up to the task. the relay will fix, and your start button will work for a long long time. I would use a 30 amp relay. Hope this helps. You needed to learn about relays anyway..... I drive a 2004 moto guzzi california. Love that thing! If you already have a relay (i doubt) I suspect it is slowly dying. Bosch brand is better than some other generic one. Relays and plug are inexpensive.
A great comment Fred, many thanks. I shall have to give this a try.
Could you maybe try to explain this for non-native English speakers in a more simple non-technical way ? I try to understasnd it but fail so far... :)
Sure....the start button on the grip energizes the solenoid on the starter. The contacts in the starter button are having difficulty with that much current (I am guessing but lets say 15 amps). To make it easier on the contacts you can use the start button contacts to just energize a relay maybe one tenth of one amp. 30 power from start button 85 ground (start button now just energizes tiny coil in the relay) This means those contacts for the start button last for ever and the load contacts in the relay 86 power + and 87 to starter solenoid carry the 15 amps. Did that help? Relay is just an electrical switch that uses a tiny current to switch a big one....Contacts in relay are made to handle a big current so they last a lot longer. They are also easily replaced (just plug new relay in) if they ever go bad. @@janvanhaaster2093
I am sorry was going by memory and memory isn't what is used to be.....85 + and 86 - are the coil for the relay 30 is +power and 87 is out to solenoid. I also looked at wiring diagram for my moto guzzi and I do have a start relay. So quite possibly replacing that relay will fix start problem....bosch makes high quality relays.
@@fred463 thanks Fred
Hi there,my Guzzi 750 v7 has the same starter issues, I checked the side stand cut out switch.Make sure the plunger is free. 😊
Thanks Gerald I'll do that.
The issue with the starter switch is common on the 750 and the new 850 models and apparently is all to do with how and where you press it, yes, it's your fault. Having said that they are correct. Test it yourself, firm press at the end on the button not near the base. I have a 2019 V7 model and have just done a run to the sun in January covering 2348 miles and it was so comfortable, my longest day was 403 miles, just stopping for fuel. I am really impressed with the V7 (750cc version) that I have. It's a great for touring long distances and locally.
I'm not pressing the starter any differently to when I first got the bike, so it's unlikely to be that, but I'll try it!
@@blueyondermoto I know what you mean, I think it may be a bit of flex in the actual plastic, my friend had a brand new 850 and it did it in the first week, we took it back and fortunately it did it for them. I think it is a fault of some description; design or material, but the way you press it does make a difference, that's all they could say.
Bought a MG V7 Special a couple of months before you bought your bike. Yep......starter button issue but has now gone away. Yep.....rusty exhaust header bolts. Been from Scotland to Le Mans twice with a decent roll bag on the back. Yep....B roads is its forte, but it handles M74, M6, M42, M40, A34, M3, M27 in the rain with ease. Just make sure your heated grips are working.
I think the previous owner tried adding to many "extras". Yes, a good roll bag is on my list. Which have you gone for?
Just found you and great feedback. I will follow you with interest
I have a 2023 V7 850 and I have to be honest - I do not have the starter issue at all (maybe fixed on 850?) as soon as I thumb the start button the motor starts without any delay. What I would say is that I'm not so sure about the tyres. They are arrowmax street smart and seem very nervous in the wet - especially when crossing white lines! what are your tyres and do you find them okay? I use matt polish on the tank and put several applications on it. The gear indicator is next to useless - however fortunately I change of engine/box feel! - Ditto the fuel gauge (oh yeah there ain't one). Would be interested to know what fork oil you use and where you got the pro rate springs from?
I ride regularly ride from Lichfield to Nottingham to see my son - so if you see a nice bright yellow V7 stone carrying a 60+ rider coming - it's probably me - so don't forget to wave :-__🤣!!!
P.s My son's girlfriend is Italian and her family home is just 20 miles or so from the Guzzi Factory! so as far as she is concerned I can do no wrong - she don't however appreciate the Enfield Classic bullet that is also in the garage tho !!
Now here's a weird (and typically Guzzi) thing. The starter has cured itself! Maybe it's very sensitive to the battery being fully charged as I've not done anything else.
I'm running Avon Road rider tyres which are OK, nothing more. They are however decent in the wet. A lot of riders use Bridgestone BT46, so I may try them at some point.
The front springs are Hagon. I'm afraid I don't know the oil used off the top of my head.
I'll look for Stone! Happy riding.
Lovely stylish bike and the V9 roamer, the small niggles don't matter.
Agreed
They do matter if you can’t get it started 😢
Hello from Italy! I have a V7 II, year 2015, absolutely fantastic! Same problem with the start button, the mechanic put some spray on it and told me to press it "hard" when starting... so I pressed it deeper and it didn't give me any more problems.
Bye!🤙 (ah...can I ask you what jacket you're wearing?)
Hi, thanks for your comment! The Jacket is a Merlin Yoxall II in Blue.
I bought it from the Sportsbikeshop in the UK. See link attached. I also have a short video which I'm giving you link for. I find Merlin clothing to be (on the whole) very good.
www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/501357
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I owned a carbon dark awesome bike I really like the bike. Still bothers me today that I got rid of it, The only problem I had with it was the clutch and the cable kept getting tight and I eventually broke a clutch cable within 5,000 km and soon after the shifting got so hard I broke a shifter replacement parts are a the butt nobody could tell me what the problem was. I did go a little bit of a tour on it , road for 14 hours straight once with you stopping for gas. but I found it wasn't big enough to carry enough to go on anything longer than a three or four day jaunt. Now looking at a 2024 v85 TT travel I think that'll be my next bike.
I've not toured on mine yet jps. I don't have any issue with changing gear other than the clutch engages VERY early. The V85TT is a great bike.
I've never owned a Guzzi but always liked them for their original style. I find them a bit odd but in a good way. Now I am seriously considering adding a V7 850 to my garage. That bike ticks all of my boxes except one.
The only thing that worries me is that single plate dry clutch. It just happened that all my bikes for the previous 15+ years had multi-plate wet clutches. I live in a big city where traffic congestion is a regular daily thing, a lot of stop and go, a lot of clutch slipping while doing low speed maneuvers. And according to some people having a dry clutch is not optimal when riding in such conditions while many others say that's not a big deal.
I see many V7 owners here and, I guess, I am asking everybody for advice. Should I be concerned about that, or am I overthinking it?
Thanks for your input.
Yes you're probably overthinking. I've got a Honda and had other Hondas and a BMW recently and I can't say its significantly different. My particular V7 has a very early take up clutch, but so did my S1000XR.
My 2004 1100 moto guzzi has the dry clutch and even though I have been doing a lot of low speed maneuvers (u turns) that require slipping the clutch and I have to slip it up all the way up my driveway (it is treacherous). I haven't had any problems with it. I haven't needed to adjust it either. They are pretty robust. I bought a clutch pressure plate and throw out bearing for my volvo 240 because it had over 275,000 miles and I figured clutches don't last forever. Well 240 had 486,000 miles when it was totaled and still didn't need clutch. Clutch PP and throw out bearing still sitting on shelf. Bought another 240 volvo. I may wear out before it does 70 in Jan.
I rode a Guzzi around London for 21 years and had no problems with a dry clutch.
Given that cars have a single plate dry clutch and manage perfectly well in traffic I wouldn’t worry.
I had a Norge with an intermittent starting problem. The issue turned out to be the ground cable to the block. Needed a scuff at the bolt
That's an interesting thing to check. Thanks for the comment.
"Italian electrics". 😄
Mate you come from the country that gave us Lucas, Prince of Darkness. Cheers.
Very true :)
V7 iii owner myself, to be honest it does nothing spectacularly however it’s more than the sum of its parts. I have a few bikes and use a humble SV650 for the commute which to be honest knocks the V7 into a cocked hat on virtually every front. However the V7 looks great.
The SV is an extremely under the radar bike.
Bah, pourquoi l'avoir acheté ? Il faut la revendre.
Way back I had a bike that was very annoying to start - all checked out - shop insisted all ok.
After a while (because you know something is wrong when it’s wrong) … took to another shop that fitted a more powerful battery.
Problem immediately solved.
Yes, it needs sorting.
Rear dampers looked to me to be adjustable. A gold-coloured nut with a flat-headed stud through the middle looks to me like a needle valve with a locking nut. You should be able to dial out the bounce.
My advice would be to do it after you've been out riding for a while (an hour would do), so then the damper oil will be at its operating temperature.
You dial those dampers in hot, she'll feel a bit stiff when you start your ride, but as the oil warms up they'll drift into adjustment, and then she'll be spot on for the rest of the ride.
You can (should) do the same with the front, if there's damping adjustment.
No damping adjustment on the front. Rear shocks preload only. Yes, you can adjust the shocks, but it's not straightforward.
@@blueyondermoto That's a shame 😔
Ther urban myth that itslian rlectrics are problematic is just a myth. I've owned a Guzzi Mk 2 le mans & Le mans 1000, an Aprilia Falco and a Benelli Amazonas. The Benelli was the youngest of these bikes and all the relays were made of soluble metal but the other bikes had no electricsl problems. The old Guzzis used the same Bosch looms as BMW did in the 80s. Some of the switch gear on those was a bit iffy but never failed. Replacements are cheap and easy to fit. If your bike has never faiked to start you don't have a problem. On the suspension you'll probably find one of the nuts is a locking nut so if you take the load off the rear shocks and use a decent sized flat screwdriver blade to hold the adjusting ring in place you should only need one C Spanner to release lhe locking nut and then once that is not interfering use the same spanner to adjust the preload. Once adjusted. Hold it in place as before and tighten the lock nut. The bike looks lovely in those colours..
It's very smart.
I mean the Japanese have been demonstrating how to build a reliable bike for something like 50 years now, there's no excuse not to have copied that part.
i own a v7 carbon whith the chrome tank same problem with the start button i think it is a voltage problem when the bike is in use its fine it only happens when its been stood in the garage starting from cold voltage drop maybe,, i agree on the seat and have changed mine as the original is to thin i felt i was sat on the floor, also agree on the shocks they are very poor if you are carrying pillion ..also where did you get the fender extender tried three before i got one to fit one thats on is for a bobber
jeff,,
The extender was on when I bought the bike Jeff. My hesitation on the starter is pretty much all the time, if you read the comments a lot of contributors are saying it's the relay and there is a work around. I've not done that yet. The Hagon shocks and progressive springs are waiting to be fitted!
I own V7 II Racer and for the starting delay i experience the same, i do not see it as a problem though since my V7 also never let me down and always starts.
Is it the "character" Chris?
maybe it is, also i only realised this was not the standart while watching your video. Being the second owner of the bike i just somehow assumed it was normal@@blueyondermoto
Hagon dampers with rebound and damping will do the trick.
I think so Richard, I'll do an update video when it's fitted and tested.
I own a V7III Special and a V7III Milano. I did have a starting problem with both, but only once after I had give them a clean and subsequently dried with a 'dog-dryer'. Did not experience any problems with starting after that. I changed the rear shocks of the Milano with Hagons and both front and rear shocks of the Special with YSS. Actually I don't feel much difference between the two, though the YSS's are more expensive. I also own a V7 850 Special and both seat and especially suspension are a big improvement over the V7III. The seat of the V7 850 (it's wider) fits on the V7 III. I own many bikes and the V7s are among my favourites. The only real gripe I have is with the traction control: it's horrible, but when disabling it there is a bright orange warning light on the dash, which I like even less.
Hi Eddy, that's really interesting. Clearly there are some good reasons to move up the new model. I must admit I do like the 850 Special and 850 Corsa.
I own 0009/1921 V7III Carbon Dark. It has been flawless for over 10,000 miles.
Hi Dave, mine is #659.
@@blueyondermoto , I have made many changes to mine over the years which helps my wandering eye from letting it go.
• Full cartridge front suspension.
• Adjustable Bitubo shocks with red springs.
• Sato Racing rear sets.
• LSL aluminum clubman bars
• Mistral short mufflers
• Moto Guzzi 1/4 Fairing.
• Napoleon Bar End Mirrors
• Cafe seat for 2012 V7 Racer.
• Moto Guzzi engine guards
• LED lights mounted on engine guards
I add the following items with the stock seat when going on a tour.
• Moto Guzzi Rear Luggage Rack
• Hepco & Becker C-Bow mounting system.
• Moto Guzzi leather saddlebags mounted on C-bow brackets.
My longest one day ride is 250 miles, but I can do that day after day on the two lane “B” roads I enjoy.
@Dave-sw2dm a photo would be good Dave, I think we would all like to see this bike! Sounds fantastic.
@@blueyondermoto , where would I need to post the photos to be able to link them in the comments?
@@Dave-sw2dm facebook.com/AlanatBlueyonder
What about seat vibes? Another review I saw and the guy complained about vibration coming up through the seat.
No seat vibes for me, but it's a pushrod v twin if you let the engine lug, it will vibe and at certain speeds it will vibe. It's what they do.
Yes, thats the spirit, buying a brand new bike and changing many of the vital parts befor using it. Brings back the old days of getting screwed by the manufacturer with unsuitable parts. Adding insult to (financial) injury you have to pay extra motorists tax money (at least here in Austria) for the parts you never gonna use and pay VAT again when buying the good stuff. Very good for the economy... ;-) BTW i enjoy riding my Royal Enfields with OEM parts.
A couple of things to correct you on. Firstly, it's not a brand new bike. It's a 2019. Also, OEM parts are sourced to a price by the manufacturer, this often means they are a compromise on quality against price. Many manufacturers expect, almost encourage their brand followers to upgrade and customise their products.
Enjoy your standard Enfield.
I fully agree with you, The issue with most modern consumer goods roots in the unsolvable dilemma between what the technician wants and what the (cost-) controller allows, the result is often a mediocre product. Thinking of that i will upgrade my Enfield with a "top of the line" drivechain rather than the abhorrend OEM part.. :-D Happy new Year!@@blueyondermoto
We used to just add thicker oil and a bit of spring to the fronts no big deal
That's great. Thank you for your comment.
regarding starter delay id be looking relay
Yes that seems to be a common thread on the comments about it. I may do that change.
My Dad's 86 & has been telling me about crappy Italian electrics my whole life, but this brand in particular...Is the only Italian brand that has my attention!!! 👍😎
Have you still got your V100 aswell Alan? 🤔
I have and I love it.
I own California 1100 EV welcome to the club.
Thanks Richard. The California is lovely bike.
Cruzzi 🦅 Guzzi
My starter button does the same thing.
If you read the other comments, it's a very common issue.
I seriously considered a V7 but there is such poor support over here in the U.S.
That's a shame Steven,as they are lovely bikes to ride. Can I suggest you join (if you haven't already) some of the V7 Facebook groups. There are lots of owners in the States on these.
@@blueyondermoto The closest dealer is in Seattle Washington. I live in Salem Oregon... I have heard horror stories of indifferent dealers and parts unavailability. My mechanical skills are limited so maintenance would need to be done by a dealer. With so few Guzzis in this area I don't think a local mechanic would be familiar with it's workings. In the end, it killed the idea of ownership.
@stevenmiller184 what a pity Steven. Hope you find a great alternative 👍
This bike is one of the best looking in the market and it's tempting. But for the price you can get a bike that handles perfectly and accelarates faster than a Honda Prius.
It is a great looking machine, very Italian.
erm, Honda doesn't make the Prius. Toyota does.
It's all about smiles per mile, something you can't list on spec sheet. The way a Guzzi engine delivers is unlike anything else and you either get it or you don't. You have to try or trust your gut and go for it.
Thanks for your video , I am thinking of buying a 850 V7 myself .
Are you sure Stainless steel bolts are best for your exhaust nuts . Ask a proper mechanic , but I think you would be better off using brass studs and nuts . Brass will not be nice and shiney like stainless , but you might have less problems removing brass bits when you need to . There are lots of different stainless steel types with varying advantages . Ideally you need something that can take very high heat , can closely match the expansion of the cylinder heads and remains lovely and shiney . If you can find studs and nuts in stainless that do match those qualities go for it .
Your worries about the weather and electrics apply to all motorcycles , not just Italian machines . If you disconnect any wires ,or multi plug or earth point apply some dielectric grease over the contact to seal it ( having mechanically cleaned , or spray cleaned (not with WD40) the actual electrical contact area first ) . Dielectric grease does not conduct power but stops corrosion at the contact by blocking damp .
Follow the advise about using a relay for the starter motor mentioned in another comment . That is great advice . Cleaning all the earth points by undoing them and tightening again a couple of times so that a fresh , stronger , contact is made and then use the dielectric grease before finally torquing the earths down .
Hi David, I have seen some stainless header bolts from a Guzzi spares specialist. I'll speak to them before I buy. Thanks for the comment!
Have always loved Guzzis but the dealer network in the US is so dire it makes ownership a chore.
It's not great in the UK either.
It's not a bike that needs rocket surgery. The worst you have is a valve adjustment and it's probably the easiest valve adjustment of any bike on the market.
@ReisterJP quite right
I own all the admiration that I have for Guzzy to an American friend that has one.
Good for a mature beginner?
Yes, I'd say so. They are unintimidating to ride and light low carried weight makes them very manageable. The clutch can be a little difficult as it engages very early (but this could be just my bike). Cheap to run too.
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@@blueyondermoto yeah the clutch is my only
Concern really. I’ll be going from a Japanese butter smooth slipper clutch to what I think is a dry clutch on the V7. Suppose I’ll get used to it. The other bike on my list is a kawa Z650rs, but the fuel tank is tiny
Not stupid fast but fast enough.
Exactly
V7 sounds a lot better with GT moto pipes from the states.
I've not seen those over here.
@@blueyondermoto we have more relaxed smog rules in the states
Can’t handle that many She’s Alan
Fair point Josh
Stop doing these videos or everyone will know that Moto Guzzi is the industries best kept secrete... LOL I had a 2014 it was a blast and now a V85TT
I think it's already out there David 🤫😂
I own a 2020 V7 Stone. A gem of a bike, have toured many times (up to 1900 miles in 6 days), handles all my trips with grace and has never let me down. A lot of character and the flaws, oh well! I have upgraded both my front and rear suspension, installed Oxford heated grips and had an ECU flash done. The ECU flash made a big difference in the throttle response. I often think about upgrading to a Touring bike for the comfort and ease of carrying luggage but I keep coming back to the raw nature of this bike and how it feels. It's a keeper and even if I get a touring bike, I'd want to keep my Guzzi. It's a lot more fun in the twisties!!! Great video. @guzzirider_LA
Thanks for those comments Guzzirider I agree with all of that.