@@N0EL-7007 well he was kind and polite like that, it just shows his nature, probably that's what they wanted for him to be pissed off but he stayed very classy, at least he stood up by clarifying everything with an assertive tone of voice
@@Anaabella-ey1 well yes, but even then he let too many people get under his skin and destroy him. I respect his patience and maturity but I feel like he, in a way, let people go too far before speaking up. I know he can’t control the tabloids but other than that when he had the chance to stand up he usually didn’t.
Oprah’s later treatment of him and the way she interrupts him constantly in this interview is one of the main reasons I don’t like it. Most of his mainstream TV interviews in the 90s are just pure trash. The media was so awful to him. It’s always surprising to me when people want to see this Oprah interview and the one with Diane Sawyer and Barbara Walters, which also were just straight trash. He had some better interviews, but these weren’t good in my opinion.
By the way: 25 June is World Vitiligo Day. It is dedicated to all people with vitiligo worldwide. The choice of 25 June as World Vitiligo Day is in memory of Michael, who suffered from vitiligo from the early 1980s until his death (25 June 2009).
Thanks for your reactions Seph. Michael is right to say he was scared of his father. Even I'm scared of Joe, he looks fierce even when he's smiling. He doesn't look friendly. Imagine that man calling you ugly and beat you when you were just a child. Michael and his brothers are really strong mentally to overcome the consequences of the trauma. I guess working hard with their music and building their own family helped them vent.
No lie bro that man looks mean as hell look at him at that picture with Michael, his eyes like sorry I hate to say it but.. he looks demonic to me lmao
The fact he said he was happy on stage and cried when it was over, was really telling. I have so much more empathy for him when I understand how unusual his child hood was. Can’t wait for the next part!
Here is a summery on La toya. la Toya Jackson is Michael's oldrer sister. in 1991 wrote a book entitled La toya growing up in the Jackson family where she alleges that her father would beat up the children and would insult them , she was the fist sibiling to talk about her father publicly. She was also the first to expose his affairs . him calling Michael big nose and how the acne affected him , how he beat his sons during rehersals , Janet's marraige...etc And that he was very much abusive . Joseph and Kathrine denied this , Joseph stating he never did beat up his kids , Joseph was later asked in a brazilian interview if he called his son Michael big nose or ugly he also denied the claims. So in the 90s while Michael was doing his things in the background there was a civil war between La Toya and her parents. It was massive Later in 1991 she would also claime that Joseph was sexually abusive and that he raped her. And she continued with her allegations all the way in 90s. After her divorce with her then Maneger Jack Gordon ( She did not take back her allegations) But stated that she now understood her father better and that it was coming from a place of love and discipline When asked to affirm her charges about molestation she refused to affirm or take back her words stating she simply "loves her father dearly" So Oprah here was asking about Michael's opinion if the charges of abuse are true and that's why they talked about his father briefly So when Oprah asked " did he beat you " this was an allegation brought up by La toya who claimed that Joseph beat him up. ( She alleged that he beat him up and continied slapping/abusing all the way until he left home when he was an adult ) And Michael takes a long pause debating with himself should I be truthful or not. And you could tell oprah wanted to ask more but decided not to push further as she would state later that he became very uncomfortable , Obviously Michael heard about it even referencing her book in the glenda tapes ( 1992-1991 ) and talks about it briefly so he heard the charges. But in this interview 1993 he pretends that he didn't hear or know anything about it to avoid answering. It's good to know that all the sibilings called La toya a lier or doing this for attention except for Michael who stayed silent. The detail made a good compilation about her charges from 1991 to 2011 and what did she say exactly watch the video for more information. What she said about her father is heavy from beating , torturing putting a Russian roulette at the gun and shooting , burning, rape , beating , kicking and all sorts of verbal attacks. So it was very heavy I hope this summery helps ☺️
A few things wrong with what you typed... Michael left his house at 24 not in his thirties so I would like you to go back and evaluate the rest of your statement because one bad Apple does spoil the bunch. And Joseph definitely did beat his kids in many cool ways, but as far as the sexual abuse goes. Janet has straight up called Latoya a liar on interview. In Latoya in 2001 took back the allegations of sexual abuse She however would not take back the allegations that he would beat them very cruelly
@@ccjtv809 Yes that was mistake on my part perhaps l was typing fast and thinking that Michael did his interview in his 30s or something he did not leave home in his thirties İ will correct that. But besides that l don't think l made other mistakes l just gave a summery about la Toya's allegations However La Toya never took her allegations back noy on television and not in her book starting over And her book was released in 2011 not 2001 but maybe you made a typo it's a myth similar to the " jordy Chandler confessed evan made him lie " it didn't happen BUT evan did make him lie... Also Michael said la toya told the truth and in her documentary said the same matches story that la Toya used to tell Maybe she is just calling her a lier The answe is we just won't know. She didn't take it back nor conform it that's what happened in starting over she claimed how Jack Gordon made her loe about Michael however as far as joe's molestation go he is not mentioned and l have a copy of the book
the fact that Michael become so sick that he threw up and Even fainted when his dad would sometimes visit him makes me so sad and angry 😢😡😭 that I just want to protect Michael
At least his mom was the opposite, thank god for that! Imagine to have both parent going off on him! You too funny z Seph, love you, ready to protect MJ!!
At the time Michael’s older sister LaToya was in a mentally, emotionally, and physically abusive relationship with her husband/manager Jack Gordon and he forced her to do a lot of things like pose naked in Playboy, tell lies about Michael and threatened to have Michael and other family members killed if LaToya didn’t obey him since Jack had ties to the mob. He even forced LaToya write a “tell all” book about he Jackson family in which she told many lies and years later after managing to escape from Jack and getting a divorce LaToya wrote another book all about her marriage and setting everything straight. Jack even made LaToya say that she believed the 1993 allegations which obviously hurt Michael but Michael understood LaToya’s position and he eventually forgave her and they made up years later. Even after LaToya divorced Jack, he continued to tell lies about Michael and some are still brought up and believed to this day
At that time * before the oprah interview* she didn't say anything negative about michael, she only exposed Joseph for having a love child which now we now is true, she talked about physical abuse, she also said joe sexually abused rebbie, btw in the glenda tapes *Michael's recorded phone call with glenda* he said everything latoya said in her book was true.
@@user-ox9ko6sb6rI don’t believe that about Rebbie at all. She was always close to her mother and father. The only kid that caused trouble in the family was Latoya. This was so many years ago but I remember losing respect for her after all the crap she did. I would have disowned her if she was my child.
@@Yeti_the_katfrankly Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant. LaToya Jackson spoke up about sexual abuse at the hands of Joseph Jackson, and she never recanted these statements later in life. Her family's denials and accusations of her lying do not negate the truth of her claims. The Jackson family has a history of covering up for one another; they protected Joseph when LaToya exposed his love child, other families, and the physical abuse he inflicted. In the early 1990s, LaToya's book suggested that Rebbie was sexually abused by Joseph, and Michael Jackson was recorded affirming the truth of LaToya's book. I choose to believe LaToya and Michael over the deceptive narratives of Joseph and Katherine.
@@SephPlays no Seph this song was never released, they remixed the song like with a different beat and released it on an album after Michael died, in 2014
I'll try to explain the whole thing with La Toya Seph, so she published an autobiography book in 91 talking about their father and abuse and everything, even wrote about Joseph's secret 2nd family, I wonder why he said he didn't read the book, on the phone recordings shortly after, he said privately that they had to smile and portray maintain this certain image of the "perfect african american family" and say stuff like "papa Joe was wonderful" and this and that, they'd take pictures together but it was all publicity, La Toya said the same thing, and according to Michael himself on the tapes he said: "then La Toya told the truth, when things start falling apart, you gotta cover for it", that must be why Michael didn't really speak that openly about his father, not like on those tapes, also must be very painful, and remember this was the very first time where Michael spoke a little more in depth about his childhood and the treatment from his father publicly, he kinda confirmed here what La Toya said about physical emotional and verbal abuse, but being live watched by approximately 90 million people, THE MOST watched live interview in US history, he probably didn't want to seem like he was taking sides and you can see him hesitating a bit to answer when Oprah asked him if his father beat him, saying "sorry please don't be mad", he was still scared of his father. She did get married with a very abusive man who was connected to the mafia, but I don't think what was in her book were lies otherwise Michael wouldn't have said she told the truth. By 1993, her husband/manager did force her to pose for playboy and a few months after this interview when the allegations hit about Michael, initially she spoke in Michael's defense, but after her husband saw how much money could be done by saying Michael was guilty she was forced to suddenly change what she said, or he would kill Michael, Janet and her, in 92/93 was when she said their father sexually abused her and her older sister, now that might have been her husband's influence since that was not on her book, but her 91 book itself, a lot of the things turned out to be true and Michael said what she said were true so there's that. You should react to a video by the channel The Detail called The Exploitation of La Toya or something, it's very good and explains the whole story in detail.
I've always loved Michael's body language! While he is talking in that quiet, soothing tone his body language at the same time is soo visible and speaks louder than words. Just love the 1996 interview with Molly Meldrum
La Toya Jackson is Michael's older sister. She was in an abusive marrige to Jack Gordon She aleged that he father was physically, mentally and sexually abusive. And now you have 2 versions of the story. Version 1 : Jack Gordon forced La toya to lie as Jack indeed was very controlling and abusive once beat her up till she landed in a hospital and had ties with the mafia as he did force her to indeed make up lies about her family and he did force her to pose in playboy or else he will have her family killed. Version 2 : is that La toya told the truth about Joseph because she also said many truthful things almost 70 oercent of her book came out to be true like Joseph having an outside doughter calling Michael big nose , Janet photoshoot with renee etc... People belive this because not even once after she divorced Jack although La toya apologized for many lies she never once took back her claims against her father. When asked about it , she dodged the qustion and regused to answer twice in t.v and bever brought it up in her second book starting over where she was supposed to mention the full truth she never stated that her father didn't moleste her. Making people wonder if she truly loved her father and was forced to say this why will she not take back these lies why will she refuse to answer more than once. And when she was asked if she was a viegin she refused to answer asking how can she be asked such a question tried to hold up and not cry but cry...this convincing people that she told the truth. It's kind of a debated topic in the MJ comunity, the detail made a video about her please watch it to understand the full story. Finally the reason why some people may belive this version is because Michael him self said " then La Toya told the truth " and referenced her multiple times as a truth teller in the glenda tapes People will belive one of these 2 versions but remember please that this topic is debated anyone who tells you one of the two versions is the absolute truth is just biased. I also recommend if you want to hear about La toya from her own mouth to watch her on interview with Jane Whitney
Yeah he was jealous. And there's nothing wrong with that. Jealousy is a normal human emotion. It's safe to assume the brothers must've been a little jealous of MJ as his career soared and theirs faded into obscurity. They were probably jealous of Janet too because her own career took off as well and she succeeded on her own while they were busy chasing MJ to reunite the Jackson's.
Yeah, I have mixed feelings on the diss track. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t aware that it would be released. I don’t like Jermaine too much but I feel like the media and just being famous in general really blew their brotherly fighting/jealousy out of proportion. I just try to remember that despite the flaws in Jermaine and his mistakes he’s still Michael’s brother and in the end loves and defends him.
@@N0EL-7007 surely yeah he was still his brother and stuff but was still jealous lol, the fact that he recorded and that line about his skin was such a low blow damn like didn't he know he had vitiligo? He was already being mocked for it in the press imagine your own brother saying what he said
@@Markdavis-34gfoh definitely, I don’t forgive him for that. Taking a blow at your brother for a disease? Nope. He was 100% jealous, but I still respect him on some levels.
Wow I just went to look how often The Jackson 5 would have an album out out of curiosity and I was shocked, they literally released 3 albums in ONE YEAR, check out the release dates in order: - Diana Ross Presents The Jackson 5 - December 12, 1969 - ABC - May 8, 1970 - Third Album - September 8, 1970 - The Jackson 5 Christmas Album - October 15, 1970 - Maybe Tomorrow - April 12, 1971 - Goin' Back to Indiana - September 29, 1971 (and then in between was the release of Michael's own solo albums as a kid): First solo album: Got to Be There - January 24, 1972 - Lookin' Through the Windows - May 23, 1972 Second solo album: Ben - August 4, 1972 - Skywriter - March 29, 1973 Third solo album: Music & Me - April 13, 1973 - Get It Together - September 12, 1973 - Dancing Machine - September 5, 1974 Fourth solo album: Forever, Michael - January 16, 1975 - Moving Violation - May 15, 1975 - Joyful Jukebox Music - October 26, 1976 The Jacksons - November 27, 1976 (now the group is called the Jacksons) - Goin' Places - October 8, 1977 - Destiny - December 17, 1978 - Triumph - October 18, 1980 - The Jacksons Live! - November 11, 1981 - Victory - July 2, 1984 - 2300 Jackson Street - May 30, 1989 (and then Michael's oen solo albums as an adult which you already know) Like man looking at this Michael really did nothing but work, and this is just the releases of the albums, imagjne the time it took to record and he said he used to record for hours and hours until it was time to go to sleep, that is if he even got the proper sleep, and he was the one who worked the most, the other brothers were older or occasionally would do background vocals, it was Michael who was the lead singer, not to mention tours, interviews, TV shows in between must be sooo exhausting for a kid, they really wanted to get as much out of him as possible, no wonder he missed his childhood so much, the only thing he did was rehearse and record, he could never even play with toys, nothing, and then on top of that had to deal with his father constantly pressuring him, beating him and making fun of him, and the fame, he never went to school with other children and instead had to have a tutor with him while on the road, damn, ever since he was 5 years old, imagine that, he lost a crucial time when he was supposed to develop social skills during his formative years, but he was so isolated because his father did not allow him to socialize with other children, and even if he did, his fame wouldn't allow it, and it's extremely sad .. didn't pay attention to his needs, didn't see him as the kid he was, but as a machine to make money.
The best bit of the interview... OPRAH: "Why do you always grab your crotch?" (32:30) MICHAEL: "So if I'm doing a move and I go, 'BAM,' and I grab myself... it's the music that compels me to do it... You don't think about it, it just happens. Sometimes I'll look back at the footage and I'll go, 'Did I do that?' I'm a slave to the rhythm." And I could swear that I saw you mimic Michael's moves during this passage! 😉 Michael's answer makes total sense. It's a primal/sexual reaction to the music. OMG, Seph, your hair and scruffy beard! 😃
I will never understand why these so called journalists,never really explore Michael's creativity,they all spend most of the interview asking BS 😞😡 Gawd,he had such a wealth of knowledge of music,art,ppl,the world,everything.
It’s so frustrating. There’s only been a few good respectful interviews, probably the Geraldo Rivera interview, the invincible interview he did in 2001 (forgot the name), the 1987 ebony jet interview, and that one unauthorized interview from about 1983? There’s probably more but not many sadly. 😔
It's so sad everything that he went through, when he talked about his teen years, I remember he spoke about one time when he was on the street with his brothers as a teen and a lady recognized them and was like "where's little Michael? Where's little Michael?" Then she looked at him and the acne on his face and went "eww what happened to you?" He said he felt like he could have died right there 😢😢 but like it's a normal growing process, everyone wanted little Michael, he already struggled with his father calling him ugly I guess this was even more of a confirmation for him 💔 that probably made him want to isolate himself more... he was always so handsome to me 😢❤
love hearing michael, hate oprah’s questions. she’s so annoying, and only talks about the gossip, shallow stuff. glad you’re reacting to it, she’s horrible lol 🤣. love your videos ! 🩷
Oprah did ask personal questions, but they are the questions most ppl wanted to know the answers to, when this first came out, nobody knew about him having vitiligo, his life was so unique and different to most ppl, that everyone was so curious, when you are a big star, your life is never private, unfortunately that is the price of fame, Michael is so sweet and adorable though ❤
By the way Seph, Janet Jackson is on tour and will be in the Uk some time in October please please be sure to buy your ticket and prepare to have your mind blown.She's 58 and still can bust some moves
Hi you wonderful and amazing Seph!! 🤗 Thank you so much for starting this interview, I feel like it has very mixed reviews from us MJ fans because it gives a great insight to his life, but is also unfortunately very agitating. Anyway, I appreciate you so much, and looking forward to the next parts! ❤️
It would actually be really cool to watch the James Brown performance he's talking about here. Michael's always cited watching the TAMI Show in 1964 as the exact moment he wanted to be a performer. You can find the whole show separated by song right here on TH-cam.
Facts about the cultural impact of this interview you should know 1. It was, and it remains the most watched TV interview in American history, drawing more than 90 million viewers in the US alone. 2. It pushed the album dangerous back up the charts, which was released in 1991. And this interview was 1993. So millions more copies of dangerous were sold because of this
Michael: spends 30 seconds talking about how questioning his appearance is not relevant Oprah literally 2 seconds later: *how much plastic surgery have you had??* 🤦♂️ lmao seriously she completely ignored what he said, Michael's patience is truly inspiring my God
At that time, anyone would have wanted an exclusive interview with Michael Jackson. And Oprah wastes time asking him stupid questions about whether he sleeps in a hyperbaric chamber or something. Perhaps another person or journalist would have asked her better questions about music and so on, as happened in her interview in 1987, in Ebony.
she was considered the greatest interviewer bc of this type of interview style...not letting ppl off the hook and asking the inconvenient questions. I think times have changed why ppl view it differently now. I did not see critisism of how she placed her questions in 93
The questions were *Fine* . But its the order of which they were asked is what made me annoyed. Michael obviously didn't feel comfortable, this part felt more like a interrogation then a friendly chat to me 😭
The anger and frustration that you feel while watching this interview, is the exact reason that I didn’t really want you to see it. I mean there’s some interesting things that he’s talking about, but she is asking such personal questions that it is frustrating and annoying to not only Michael but it was annoying to me when I first watched it. This is actually the first time I’ve seen it since it first aired and it’s just as bad as I remember. I agree with Michael that he should be asked about his craft, his artistry and his process for creating such great music. Those are the types of subjects that would’ve been a better use of time during this interview. But, unfortunately, she like many other journalists of this era decided to take the low road.
I feel you but Michael did say those were some of the things he wanted to talk about, he must have been really tired of those stories, so I'm happy he at least got to clear things up once and for all. The way she asked these questions though was very rude and the way she kept cutting him off really annoyed me.
In the 2000s he was asked if he had any regrets and he repeated the story about not going to the park across the studio and playing with the other kids 😢 he said he just wished he could have run and just played for a little bit back then.. but hs couldn't 💔
Yay, finally the Oprah interview!🥳 I see a lot of fans complaining about Oprah asking him all these uncomfortable questions but the way I always understood it is he wanted her to do that. That the reason he agreed to do this interview is to clear these rumors up. He even says "those are some of the things I want to talk about". Although you are right, she could've spaced them out a bit more and have some more light-hearted questions in between. The way she did it it seemed more like an interrogation at times. I'm looking forward to the second part which is a bit less uncomfortable if I remember correctly.😊 Love your reaction as always!
@@N0EL-7007 definitely! Completely over the line and it's the one question where I just face palm every time. But his response was brilliant. Handled it like a champ💪
Seph you also gotta understand, at this point. No one knew what vitiligo was and why Michael was turning white. Michael never came out and Spoke about it, so all there was, were speculation and rumours. The Bad album cover in 1987 is what really started the whole thing about his skin color. Only here in 1993 did he tell the public. That’s a lot of years of radio Silence and room for questions
The questions are *Fair* (if a little harsh) but the thing that annoyed me more is the way she asked all of them all in a row. She could have spaced them out a little 😅
I think vitiligo what at that time already well known. It's just that medical records are private. Michael was diagnosed at the same time with lupus. You can see the typical butterfly rash from lupus on Michael's cheeks and nose in some pictures around the time of Thriller. Michael never talked about lupus, although it causes awful joint pain, muscle pain, migraines and later inflamed lungs. This was confirmed in his autopsy. When you are diagnosed with lupus plastic surgery in contra indicated, because the skin loses the ability to heal. He had only a nose surgery, this is not considered plastic surgery because many people have blocked air ways or a broken nose. He needed reconstructive surgery on his nose because his skin didn't heal. In his autopsy it was confirmed that he had osteo arthritis in almost all his joints. He only had a surgery on his scull, they placed a balloon under his scull that he had more elasticity. He had migraines after the burn accident. He had no scars from plastic surgery. Michael never talked about his skin disease lupus, although it's really a horrible disease. It often comes together with vitiligo.
Michael is adorable here, I hate to see him getting sad though. Great and insightful interview if you forget about Oprah. I couldn’t care less about whether she believed the allegations or not, although I wish she didn’t. I’m mostly bothered because she gave the most recent accusers a platform, and those guys are just money hungry narcissists. She made it very obvious she didn’t care about Michael or whether they were true or not, she just cared that it was an “accurate representation” of abuse. She also was very two faced with the Jackson family, Katherine trusted her as well as the rest of the family only for her to turn around and stab them in the back. Wherever the money goes I bet you’ll find Oprah right there with it. All she cares about is painting herself to be an advocate of abuse and some sort of powerful angel, yet she’s everything but. I do know what she is though, a clout chaser.. they all are. The stuff that Joseph said to his children is just devastating. I try to understand the man, and I respect him on some levels, but I cannot and will not justify any of what he did to them. It’s just heartbreaking. I really sympathize with Michael and understand him here. I’ve had a difficult relationship with my father, won’t go into detail but there have been times where I was frightened as Michael is. Still despite all that he’s my father. I’ve matured, and so has he, things are better and I forgive him with all my heart. I may never understand why he did what he did, but I won’t ever not love him.
19:15 omg Michael is 34 here and still scared of his father 😢 reminds me of that 1979 interview where he said yes and no right after and then "he's gonna kill me" when they asked if he thought his father was "too strict", this is the first time where he actually spoke more openly about his childhood and what he went through with his father, I completely understand Seph I wish I could protect Michael too 😭 I'm happy he finally had to courage to be honest and say it here, his father was horrible and he never took responsability for anything and kept making excuses and even his brothers downplayed Michael's feelings, Michael literally said he was so scared of him he would throw up when his fafher would step into the room, even as an adult, that's not normal, that's trauma, and you know what really angered me?? He had the nerve to say after with an arrogant tone: "well I didn't know but if he did, he did it all the way to the bank" 🙄😡 he didn't care I doubt he ever apologized cause he didn't think he did nothing wrong and he got the money so what does it matter that he messed up his son's mental state for life 🙄
This interview always makes me feel conflicted. There is a lot of important, vital information that we learned through it. Like Michel talking about his Vitiligo for the first time, allowing others to understand him and why things were the way they were. And getting to adress and set the record straight about some of the things that were being said. But it annoys me how much Oprah keeps interrupting him and some of the topics she talks about and how she does it. Granted, some of that can be atributed to the fact that this was live and they only had a limited amount of time but it's so frustrating.
With A Child's Heart was about to play while they play footages of little Michael, thank God it got cut it's just so heartbreaking 😢😢 I just don't understand how his father could be so mean and cruel and why he wasn't allowed to play even for a little bit with the other kids and have fun, I mean it's a basic child right, no child should be denied the right to be a child, I'm sure most of us miss that time of freedom joy typical of childhood, or wish we could go back to that time of no pressure, no responsability or worries every once in a while, meanwhile he was missing something that he never had, imagine not even knowing what that's like since the age of 5 💔😭 and being famous since 8, along with all the trauma, that will cause some form of arrested development, (Brooke Shields believes he suffered from that), it's really not hard to understand why he behaved the way he behaved, some people are just so judgmental and close minded, they just don't want to see things from another perspective
I’m exactly the same too! I don’t like when the cameraman go too close or turn away the camera or the editor changes the camera angles to the wrong camera angle when Micheal would really dance
This interview made Oprah a much bigger star, In 2019 Two men claimed in a program called Leaving Neverland that Micheal abused them, both suing for hundreds of millions, It's now been totally debunked with many facts, one of the Men said he was abused many times in the Neverland train station between 1988 to 1993, but the train station wasn't built until 1994 😯 Oprah jumped on this program like a Vulture in 2019 because her business and ratings were failing and made a talk show called after Neverland where she Interviews these two Men knowing there was no train station because she was there doing this Interview in 1993 and even said at the start that she had the full tour of Neverland. 🐍
But the video that debunked the allegations and all details, has itself been debunked. Fur example there actually was a station that was later either renovated or rebuilt (i can't remember which) ... and all other things were basically back on the table. But the problem is that us fans can be too protective and our lives for our hero makes us overlook important facts and even wording. So, for example, when asked if he abused those little boys he didn't deny it. Instead he said that he would never hurt a child. Sadly abusers often don't consider it hurting a child. When he was asked if he was going to stop having little boys sleeping in his bed he said he wouldn't. Very strange from every angle really but we fans like his music so we become blind to this. If Trump had little boys sleeping in his bed how many would view that as fine? I don't like Oprah... she's an incredibly dubious woman herself! I saw a horrible picture of her clearly setting up a very young, overly made up girl, with Weinstein. She has plenty of allegations against her too and maybe we ought to all just stop ignoring the excess of worrying behaviour by these people just because they are celebrities? One accusation isn't great but these people have a huge stack of them, and lack of evidence isn't lack of guilt. I think I can like some of his music still but I can't defend his choices and actions even if there is no proof. Sleeping and showering with little boys is, just in itself, not okay. And parents allowing that just because he was a star, is not okay. If anything untoward happened then that is sickeningly not okay. ☹️
@@Samua3 it’s been debunked for lots of things, not just the train station lie. Which is still a lie because it didn’t exist. (I tried to list all their lies below but my comment wouldn’t go through. I’d recommend reading the critical analysis of LN in the Michael Jackson allegations blog website though.) If you study their past depositions and then LN you can really see just how much stuff they lied about. They both only accused because they were struggling financially and wanted to be relevant. Wade didn’t claim anything until his career crumbled and his wife wanted to leave him. He filed his lawsuit under seal for *MONEY*. As Wade himself did say, his story would make him “relatable/relevant”. James didn’t claim anything until shortly after his family was sued for millions. Every accuser was either driven by money or weren’t stable. Both of their cases were thrown out and the judge said it was all not believable. It’s important to remember no child ever claimed anything against Michael, only their parents or in Wade and James case when they were unstable adults. In fact, every child strongly denied them until a manipulative adult in their life saw a money opportunity (Wade and James are their own manipulative adults.) Also the supposed showering is a lie from Blanca Francia, who would later contradict herself. She was one of the Neverland employees who took tabloid money and also blackmailed Michael. I also find it quite silly to say fans are too protective to the point of missing out on critical details and facts. I personally researched before becoming a fan, because I wasn’t comfortable with the thought of possibly supporting a monster. I don’t think it’s reasonable to claim this, especially with the amount of research fans do. I know I’ve done enough to confidently say I don’t believe any of them.
Also important to point out that Oprah has since deleted that interview from her media pages after the backlash when the lies of the accusers started getting revealed
@@Samua3you're literally making up stories. There was never any other train station that was rebuilt or renovated. The actual engineer that built the train has said this. And MJ never "showered with little boys". The disgruntled, fired staff who made that claim contradicted her stories in court and admitted she never actually Saw a child with MJ in the bathroom and she didn't even see MJ himself, she only heard his voice. Learn to research buddy
hey seph! love ur vids!!! I am a young man from PA. I understand your anger with how intrusive and nosey Oprah was being. And while I agree that she took some of those question too far, I feel that in hindsight these questions did a lot of good for Michael's image. for example, if Michael didn't say he had vitiligo when he was asked about his skin, then who know when or how the public would have found out. Basically, what I am saying is that it was better for him to answer these questions during the interview then it would be for some sort of paparazzi photo to come out and cause wide speculation and harassment. Oprah does need to chill though!
Oprah was rude, intrusive and unprofessional, I mean she’s a Snake for a reason. The questions about him being a virgin, his love life, the fact that she had to keep noting that he was abused which MJ was uncomfortable talking about and just how she really stretched out those questions about the rumors when he just wanted to clear it up real quick and move on to the more important questions about his art etc. (which she barely touched on). The virgin question though, don't even get me started. That's something no interviewer should EVER ask but of course no one looks at Michael Jackson like he's human which is infuriating and frustrating. He even said in the interview how an artist's craftsmanship is what's most important but she still kept asking the private questions. A true snake if you ask me. And yeah when Elizabeth joined him, he definitely was uncomfortable because he just said he wished he proposed to her lol and he wasn't expecting her to be there. I can imagine it's also uncomfortable when someone is speaking about you right in front of you, I mean how are you supposed to act in that particular situation? Especially being as humble as MJ, when someone is praising you right in front of you, it has to be uncomfortable. Body language experts here on TH-cam will tell you that and they'll tell you he was a shy, humble, sincere person. But when he was asked if the way he was teased about his nose affected his choice to do his nose, he did say no and that's the only time he wasn't sincere. But he later clarified that in other interviews where he seemed more comfortable. Body language experts love him because they can especially see how intelligent and honest he is. But great reaction as always Seph loved it! Also when MJ said he only changed 2 things on his face. It's true he only did his nose and chin (which he also said in his book “Moonwalk”). When you change your nose, your whole face is going to look unrecognizable. Especially going from a wide nose to a thin nose. But those cosmetic surgeries stopped in 1986. Then it was the vitiligo, lupus and burn complications that changed him much more, it made him wear tons of makeup and get reconstructive surgeries for the burns on his scalp and the skin lesions that lupus caused on his face. Lupus and the burns also gave him alopecia on his scalp, eyebrows and eyelashes so he was forced to wear wigs and he really had to cake that makeup on to try and look normal.✍🏽👑🎯💯(I know I’m ahead of Part 2 but it’s just I had my set perspective/summary on this entire interview.)
No offence but I heard that body language "experts" are not really reliable but yes I agree with you that Michael was all of these things, however I have to disagree when you said he was not sincere. Oprah asked him if the reason why he first started doing surgeries was because of not liking the way he looked in his teen years, not really if his father's teasing affected him to do it, and although it did have a very deep effect on his self esteem, the reason why he first started was because he broke his nose in 1979 and needed surgery for that, so he didn't really lie.
In those leaked phone calls, MJ literally said he started getting surgery because he did not want to look like his father. So his answer to Oprah here was sincere even though he was still insecure about his looks.
@@for-house-stark he didn't say exactly that. He said he was happy with his face because at least he didn't look like this father, the fact is that he broke his nose which was what made him do his first surgery.
@@caroline-t5574I’ll say this both things can be true and actually they were MJ started doing surgery cause he didn’t want to look like his father cause of all of the damn teasing he did upon MJ however him breaking his nose on the set of “The Wiz” and having Lupus gave him a valid reasoning to start getting surgery done especially w/ him also discovering he had Lupus as well. With that being said it’s obvious MJ wasn’t being sincere in this instance atleast and tbh rightfully so cause frankly it’s was none of our damn business that’s his own personal medical information!
@@Milkers777 oh definitely maybe he had already thought about doing his nose because of the constant teasing and the accident gave him the opportunity to do so, so in that sense I see what you're saying! So he was and wasn't depending on how you look at it.
She had to ask all the shocking questions,calm down😂 I always believed he was innocent of the child molestation charges and was just super in shock when he died. #Gone2Soon
What's irritating is that he felt he had to explain himself as if the world didn't watch him grow up in front of cameras his entire life and the fact that his explanation didn't fit into the general public's narrative of him they chose to go with the narrative they wanted to believe and not the truth. Michael Jackson is long overdue for an apology and the fact that he'll probably never get one it burns me up
I agree totally that man didn't deserve Michael's forgiveness, that's the thing tho you can forgive but never forget, it's clear they were never close, the fact Michael left him out of his will says a lot lol I would do the same honestly
This turned out to be really sad. Michael agreed to the interview because he trusted Oprah. A lot of us didn't know she was going to interigate him like a police.
I get the frustration at the type of questions she was asking but you have to understand just how much MJ was being vilified in the media at the time. It was insane. I wanted to hear his responses to these ridiculous stories just so he could set the record straight. It was Oprah's more recent actions (backing the Leaving Neverland stories) that truly made us fans hate her.
I'm just reading over some of these comments, and it seems to be 50/50 on the people who thought this was *Ok* and people who thought like you and me do. I personally think this part felt more like an interrogation then a friendly chat ya know?
I cant stand Oprah now. But these questions were necessary. He has to clear the record on these rumors. Dancing around the questions just comes off as more disingenuous.
At that time * before the oprah interview* she didn't say anything negative about michael, she only exposed Joseph for having a love child which now we now is true, she talked about physical abuse, she also said joe sexually abused rebbie, btw in the glenda tapes *Michael's recorded phone call with glenda* he said everything latoya said in her book was true.
You have to understand that this was the first interview after thriller and bad. And the world got soo many questions. I remember this interview. I was 13 years old and we all wanted to know everything she was asking. Obviously today we know much more but at that time no one knew anything about his skin change etc. So I understood why she asked those questions. It was a different time you know
It seems like Seph was actually saying that her asking the personal questions right after each other was annoying and overwhelming. He’s saying if you have to ask them, at least soften the blow a little by putting in some lighthearted questions lol! (I know that the one about why he grabbed his crotch eventually came 🤣)
Bro this interview was huge. Fake oprah unfortunately held the interview. But this was cool, and sad at the same time. This was right before the allegations, and she turned on him fast as hell!
She totally betrayed his trust and threw him under the bus as we all know in recent years and is only interested in promoting her own career in the process, should be ashamed of her conduct! Pure evil
I don't like that this is edited And completely stripped of the produced segments diving deep into Michaels childhood.. I remember the first time ever watching this and almost the entire family was in tears because you really never got to hear Suzanne De Passes words and the price he actually paid. Here all that is taken out and all you get is Michael talking. You should truly experience the entire thing as it aired, It truly adds more to the full experience. I can find you an HD link with everything still included if you give me an hour.🎯
Its has copyright.. If i didn't pause it and talk over it then it would be removed for copyright infringement and i would be sued thousands of dollars.
Oprah was ok, she got some good interviews later on. sure some questions were kinda wild but she was still young here. She did get famous for a reason she became much better at getting people to open up and talk about their traumas properly and supporting them. I guess she was already trying this here with MJ but was too inexperienced with the back to back questions like you mentioned. plus MJ is a really closed off person on top of that. The hate towards her from the fandom came when she decided to not even take a neutral but anti MJ stance when the accusations happened and she did even more than just that after his death which youll get to at the end of ur mj journey.
The fact is that he‘s only had his nose done (+ the chin cleft) for reconstuction, because he suffered from lupus, which destroyed his nose tissue. Besides of that he also lost his lashes, eyebrows and hair. Additionally the disorder caused him to have a reduced lung capacity.
@@sandy80_gerto be fair he had nose surgeries before needing reconstructive surgeries, but I do believe later on due to lupus, healing difficulties, and possibly the Pepsi burns he had to go under the knife often. No doubt he started having surgeries due to insecurities, but I think the majority of it was health related and or just because they botched it. Still I agree with what you’re saying. ☺️
GOD she keeps interrupting him and it's getting on my NERVES, Michael was extremely patient omg
Too patient
He should’ve shut her up. I wish he stood up for himself.
@@N0EL-7007 well he was kind and polite like that, it just shows his nature, probably that's what they wanted for him to be pissed off but he stayed very classy, at least he stood up by clarifying everything with an assertive tone of voice
@@Anaabella-ey1 well yes, but even then he let too many people get under his skin and destroy him. I respect his patience and maturity but I feel like he, in a way, let people go too far before speaking up. I know he can’t control the tabloids but other than that when he had the chance to stand up he usually didn’t.
Oprah’s later treatment of him and the way she interrupts him constantly in this interview is one of the main reasons I don’t like it. Most of his mainstream TV interviews in the 90s are just pure trash. The media was so awful to him. It’s always surprising to me when people want to see this Oprah interview and the one with Diane Sawyer and Barbara Walters, which also were just straight trash. He had some better interviews, but these weren’t good in my opinion.
By the way: 25 June is World Vitiligo Day. It is dedicated to all people with vitiligo worldwide. The choice of 25 June as World Vitiligo Day is in memory of Michael, who suffered from vitiligo from the early 1980s until his death (25 June 2009).
No people vitiligo so stupid
😂😂😂 no
@@VivianaMartino?
@@VivianaMartino just look it up on google, idiot
@vivianaMartino. No what???
Thanks for your reactions Seph. Michael is right to say he was scared of his father. Even I'm scared of Joe, he looks fierce even when he's smiling. He doesn't look friendly. Imagine that man calling you ugly and beat you when you were just a child. Michael and his brothers are really strong mentally to overcome the consequences of the trauma. I guess working hard with their music and building their own family helped them vent.
No lie bro that man looks mean as hell look at him at that picture with Michael, his eyes like sorry I hate to say it but.. he looks demonic to me lmao
The fact he said he was happy on stage and cried when it was over, was really telling. I have so much more empathy for him when I understand how unusual his child hood was. Can’t wait for the next part!
Here is a summery on La toya.
la Toya Jackson is Michael's oldrer sister.
in 1991 wrote a book entitled La toya growing up in the Jackson family where she alleges that her father would beat up the children and would insult them , she was the fist sibiling to talk about her father publicly.
She was also the first to expose his affairs . him calling Michael big nose and how the acne affected him , how he beat his sons during rehersals , Janet's marraige...etc
And that he was very much abusive .
Joseph and Kathrine denied this , Joseph stating he never did beat up his kids , Joseph was later asked in a brazilian interview if he called his son Michael big nose or ugly he also denied the claims.
So in the 90s while Michael was doing his things in the background there was a civil war between La Toya and her parents. It was massive
Later in 1991 she would also claime that Joseph was sexually abusive and that he raped her.
And she continued with her allegations all the way in 90s.
After her divorce with her then Maneger Jack Gordon
( She did not take back her allegations)
But stated that she now understood her father better and that it was coming from a place of love and discipline
When asked to affirm her charges about molestation she refused to affirm or take back her words stating she simply "loves her father dearly"
So Oprah here was asking about Michael's opinion if the charges of abuse are true and that's why they talked about his father briefly
So when Oprah asked " did he beat you " this was an allegation brought up by La toya who claimed that Joseph beat him up.
( She alleged that he beat him up and continied slapping/abusing all the way until he left home when he was an adult )
And Michael takes a long pause debating with himself should I be truthful or not.
And you could tell oprah wanted to ask more but decided not to push further as she would state later that he became very uncomfortable
, Obviously Michael heard about it even referencing her book in the glenda tapes ( 1992-1991 ) and talks about it briefly so he heard the charges.
But in this interview 1993 he pretends that he didn't hear or know anything about it to avoid answering.
It's good to know that all the sibilings called La toya a lier or doing this for attention except for Michael who stayed silent.
The detail made a good compilation about her charges from 1991 to 2011 and what did she say exactly watch the video for more information.
What she said about her father is heavy from beating , torturing putting a Russian roulette at the gun and shooting , burning, rape , beating , kicking and all sorts of verbal attacks.
So it was very heavy
I hope this summery helps ☺️
A few things wrong with what you typed... Michael left his house at 24 not in his thirties so I would like you to go back and evaluate the rest of your statement because one bad Apple does spoil the bunch. And Joseph definitely did beat his kids in many cool ways, but as far as the sexual abuse goes. Janet has straight up called Latoya a liar on interview. In Latoya in 2001 took back the allegations of sexual abuse She however would not take back the allegations that he would beat them very cruelly
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Yes that was mistake on my part perhaps l was typing fast and thinking that Michael did his interview in his 30s or something he did not leave home in his thirties İ will correct that.
But besides that l don't think l made other mistakes l just gave a summery about la Toya's allegations
However La Toya never took her allegations back noy on television and not in her book starting over
And her book was released in 2011 not 2001 but maybe you made a typo
it's a myth similar to the " jordy Chandler confessed evan made him lie " it didn't happen BUT evan did make him lie...
Also Michael said la toya told the truth and in her documentary said the same matches story that la Toya used to tell
Maybe she is just calling her a lier
The answe is we just won't know.
She didn't take it back nor conform it that's what happened in starting over she claimed how Jack Gordon made her loe about Michael however as far as joe's molestation go he is not mentioned and l have a copy of the book
seph getting pissed off at joseph jackson is so real.
the fact that Michael become so sick that he threw up and Even fainted when his dad would sometimes visit him makes me so sad and angry 😢😡😭 that I just want to protect Michael
yes!
At least his mom was the opposite, thank god for that! Imagine to have both parent going off on him! You too funny z Seph, love you, ready to protect MJ!!
That man was a monster
At the time Michael’s older sister LaToya was in a mentally, emotionally, and physically abusive relationship with her husband/manager Jack Gordon and he forced her to do a lot of things like pose naked in Playboy, tell lies about Michael and threatened to have Michael and other family members killed if LaToya didn’t obey him since Jack had ties to the mob. He even forced LaToya write a “tell all” book about he Jackson family in which she told many lies and years later after managing to escape from Jack and getting a divorce LaToya wrote another book all about her marriage and setting everything straight. Jack even made LaToya say that she believed the 1993 allegations which obviously hurt Michael but Michael understood LaToya’s position and he eventually forgave her and they made up years later. Even after LaToya divorced Jack, he continued to tell lies about Michael and some are still brought up and believed to this day
At that time * before the oprah interview* she didn't say anything negative about michael, she only exposed Joseph for having a love child which now we now is true, she talked about physical abuse, she also said joe sexually abused rebbie, btw in the glenda tapes *Michael's recorded phone call with glenda* he said everything latoya said in her book was true.
@@user-ox9ko6sb6rI don’t believe that about Rebbie at all. She was always close to her mother and father. The only kid that caused trouble in the family was Latoya. This was so many years ago but I remember losing respect for her after all the crap she did. I would have disowned her if she was my child.
@@Yeti_the_katfrankly Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant. LaToya Jackson spoke up about sexual abuse at the hands of Joseph Jackson, and she never recanted these statements later in life. Her family's denials and accusations of her lying do not negate the truth of her claims. The Jackson family has a history of covering up for one another; they protected Joseph when LaToya exposed his love child, other families, and the physical abuse he inflicted. In the early 1990s, LaToya's book suggested that Rebbie was sexually abused by Joseph, and Michael Jackson was recorded affirming the truth of LaToya's book. I choose to believe LaToya and Michael over the deceptive narratives of Joseph and Katherine.
Michael referring to himself as a “slave to the rhythm” is good foreshadowing for something later 👀
I believe he recorded it originally around 1991 so before this. I wish he’d released it earlier!
@@N0EL-7007 he did but it wasn’t released until later and Seph doesn’t know about it yet so it’s foreshadowing
@@KD-cd2ck I know, just saying :)
Thats an MJ song? Wow thats insane!! I wonder if he dropped this in as an easter egg?
@@SephPlays no Seph this song was never released, they remixed the song like with a different beat and released it on an album after Michael died, in 2014
I'll try to explain the whole thing with La Toya Seph, so she published an autobiography book in 91 talking about their father and abuse and everything, even wrote about Joseph's secret 2nd family, I wonder why he said he didn't read the book, on the phone recordings shortly after, he said privately that they had to smile and portray maintain this certain image of the "perfect african american family" and say stuff like "papa Joe was wonderful" and this and that, they'd take pictures together but it was all publicity, La Toya said the same thing, and according to Michael himself on the tapes he said: "then La Toya told the truth, when things start falling apart, you gotta cover for it", that must be why Michael didn't really speak that openly about his father, not like on those tapes, also must be very painful, and remember this was the very first time where Michael spoke a little more in depth about his childhood and the treatment from his father publicly, he kinda confirmed here what La Toya said about physical emotional and verbal abuse, but being live watched by approximately 90 million people, THE MOST watched live interview in US history, he probably didn't want to seem like he was taking sides and you can see him hesitating a bit to answer when Oprah asked him if his father beat him, saying "sorry please don't be mad", he was still scared of his father. She did get married with a very abusive man who was connected to the mafia, but I don't think what was in her book were lies otherwise Michael wouldn't have said she told the truth. By 1993, her husband/manager did force her to pose for playboy and a few months after this interview when the allegations hit about Michael, initially she spoke in Michael's defense, but after her husband saw how much money could be done by saying Michael was guilty she was forced to suddenly change what she said, or he would kill Michael, Janet and her, in 92/93 was when she said their father sexually abused her and her older sister, now that might have been her husband's influence since that was not on her book, but her 91 book itself, a lot of the things turned out to be true and Michael said what she said were true so there's that. You should react to a video by the channel The Detail called The Exploitation of La Toya or something, it's very good and explains the whole story in detail.
Damn the comment is so long 😂😂😂 sorry Seph I tried my best
No she claimed she was kolested all the way back in 1991
I've always loved Michael's body language! While he is talking in that quiet, soothing tone his body language at the same time is soo visible and speaks louder than words. Just love the 1996 interview with Molly Meldrum
La Toya Jackson is Michael's older sister.
She was in an abusive marrige to Jack Gordon
She aleged that he father was physically, mentally and sexually abusive.
And now you have 2 versions of the story.
Version 1 : Jack Gordon forced La toya to lie as Jack indeed was very controlling and abusive once beat her up till she landed in a hospital and had ties with the mafia as he did force her to indeed make up lies about her family and he did force her to pose in playboy or else he will have her family killed.
Version 2 : is that La toya told the truth about Joseph because she also said many truthful things almost 70 oercent of her book came out to be true like Joseph having an outside doughter calling Michael big nose , Janet photoshoot with renee etc...
People belive this because not even once after she divorced Jack although La toya apologized for many lies she never once took back her claims against her father.
When asked about it , she dodged the qustion and regused to answer twice in t.v and bever brought it up in her second book starting over where she was supposed to mention the full truth she never stated that her father didn't moleste her.
Making people wonder if she truly loved her father and was forced to say this why will she not take back these lies why will she refuse to answer more than once.
And when she was asked if she was a viegin she refused to answer asking how can she be asked such a question tried to hold up and not cry but cry...this convincing people that she told the truth.
It's kind of a debated topic in the MJ comunity, the detail made a video about her please watch it to understand the full story.
Finally the reason why some people may belive this version is because Michael him self said " then La Toya told the truth " and referenced her multiple times as a truth teller in the glenda tapes
People will belive one of these 2 versions but remember please that this topic is debated anyone who tells you one of the two versions is the absolute truth is just biased.
I also recommend if you want to hear about La toya from her own mouth to watch her on interview with Jane Whitney
Lmao Jermaine was definitely jealous tho, remember that diss track?
Yeah he was jealous. And there's nothing wrong with that. Jealousy is a normal human emotion. It's safe to assume the brothers must've been a little jealous of MJ as his career soared and theirs faded into obscurity. They were probably jealous of Janet too because her own career took off as well and she succeeded on her own while they were busy chasing MJ to reunite the Jackson's.
The diss track was called word to the bad. Damn Jermaine was out for blood.
Yeah, I have mixed feelings on the diss track. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t aware that it would be released. I don’t like Jermaine too much but I feel like the media and just being famous in general really blew their brotherly fighting/jealousy out of proportion. I just try to remember that despite the flaws in Jermaine and his mistakes he’s still Michael’s brother and in the end loves and defends him.
@@N0EL-7007 surely yeah he was still his brother and stuff but was still jealous lol, the fact that he recorded and that line about his skin was such a low blow damn like didn't he know he had vitiligo? He was already being mocked for it in the press imagine your own brother saying what he said
@@Markdavis-34gfoh definitely, I don’t forgive him for that. Taking a blow at your brother for a disease? Nope. He was 100% jealous, but I still respect him on some levels.
Wow I just went to look how often The Jackson 5 would have an album out out of curiosity and I was shocked, they literally released 3 albums in ONE YEAR, check out the release dates in order:
- Diana Ross Presents The Jackson 5 - December 12, 1969
- ABC - May 8, 1970
- Third Album - September 8, 1970
- The Jackson 5 Christmas Album - October 15, 1970
- Maybe Tomorrow - April 12, 1971
- Goin' Back to Indiana - September 29, 1971 (and then in between was the release of Michael's own solo albums as a kid):
First solo album: Got to Be There - January 24, 1972
- Lookin' Through the Windows - May 23, 1972
Second solo album: Ben - August 4, 1972
- Skywriter - March 29, 1973
Third solo album: Music & Me - April 13, 1973
- Get It Together - September 12, 1973
- Dancing Machine - September 5, 1974
Fourth solo album: Forever, Michael - January 16, 1975
- Moving Violation - May 15, 1975
- Joyful Jukebox Music - October 26, 1976
The Jacksons - November 27, 1976 (now the group is called the Jacksons)
- Goin' Places - October 8, 1977
- Destiny - December 17, 1978
- Triumph - October 18, 1980
- The Jacksons Live! - November 11, 1981
- Victory - July 2, 1984
- 2300 Jackson Street - May 30, 1989 (and then Michael's oen solo albums as an adult which you already know)
Like man looking at this Michael really did nothing but work, and this is just the releases of the albums, imagjne the time it took to record and he said he used to record for hours and hours until it was time to go to sleep, that is if he even got the proper sleep, and he was the one who worked the most, the other brothers were older or occasionally would do background vocals, it was Michael who was the lead singer, not to mention tours, interviews, TV shows in between must be sooo exhausting for a kid, they really wanted to get as much out of him as possible, no wonder he missed his childhood so much, the only thing he did was rehearse and record, he could never even play with toys, nothing, and then on top of that had to deal with his father constantly pressuring him, beating him and making fun of him, and the fame, he never went to school with other children and instead had to have a tutor with him while on the road, damn, ever since he was 5 years old, imagine that, he lost a crucial time when he was supposed to develop social skills during his formative years, but he was so isolated because his father did not allow him to socialize with other children, and even if he did, his fame wouldn't allow it, and it's extremely sad .. didn't pay attention to his needs, didn't see him as the kid he was, but as a machine to make money.
Crazy!! MJ was busy!! 🐝❤️
The best bit of the interview...
OPRAH: "Why do you always grab your crotch?" (32:30)
MICHAEL: "So if I'm doing a move and I go, 'BAM,' and I grab myself... it's the music that compels me to do it... You don't think about it, it just happens. Sometimes I'll look back at the footage and I'll go, 'Did I do that?' I'm a slave to the rhythm."
And I could swear that I saw you mimic Michael's moves during this passage! 😉 Michael's answer makes total sense. It's a primal/sexual reaction to the music.
OMG, Seph, your hair and scruffy beard! 😃
Hahahaha i did hehe
@@SephPlays BAM!
@@balovett 🤣🤣🤣🤣
29:25 Oh Seph you’ll see many of the “best interviewers in the world” look and sound absolutely ridiculous while talking to Michael
Yet, Oprah, pretending to be so concerned, yet, she turned against him,also,.., she is not a god person at all!!!!! 😭😞
Nope. And im glad i was told this "before" i watched this!
She sure isn't...
I will never understand why these so called journalists,never really explore Michael's creativity,they all spend most of the interview asking BS 😞😡
Gawd,he had such a wealth of knowledge of music,art,ppl,the world,everything.
It’s so frustrating. There’s only been a few good respectful interviews, probably the Geraldo Rivera interview, the invincible interview he did in 2001 (forgot the name), the 1987 ebony jet interview, and that one unauthorized interview from about 1983? There’s probably more but not many sadly. 😔
Because they were much more interested in silly gossip. This is ridiculous for so called journalists
when I saw this video was posted i full on jumped up and down! I love your reactions and seeing you truly enjoy great content 😁
Awwwwwww thank you
It's so sad everything that he went through, when he talked about his teen years, I remember he spoke about one time when he was on the street with his brothers as a teen and a lady recognized them and was like "where's little Michael? Where's little Michael?" Then she looked at him and the acne on his face and went "eww what happened to you?" He said he felt like he could have died right there 😢😢 but like it's a normal growing process, everyone wanted little Michael, he already struggled with his father calling him ugly I guess this was even more of a confirmation for him 💔 that probably made him want to isolate himself more... he was always so handsome to me 😢❤
love hearing michael, hate oprah’s questions. she’s so annoying, and only talks about the gossip, shallow stuff. glad you’re reacting to it, she’s horrible lol 🤣. love your videos ! 🩷
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gosh i was so curious for u to watch this one...finally we are here....
Oprah did ask personal questions, but they are the questions most ppl wanted to know the answers to, when this first came out, nobody knew about him having vitiligo, his life was so unique and different to most ppl, that everyone was so curious, when you are a big star, your life is never private, unfortunately that is the price of fame, Michael is so sweet and adorable though ❤
By the way Seph, Janet Jackson is on tour and will be in the Uk some time in October please please be sure to buy your ticket and prepare to have your mind blown.She's 58 and still can bust some moves
Michael at a point was probably contemplating walking away from the interview..... Lol
I would have
SNAKE, SNAKE, S-N-A-K-E!
Hi you wonderful and amazing Seph!! 🤗 Thank you so much for starting this interview, I feel like it has very mixed reviews from us MJ fans because it gives a great insight to his life, but is also unfortunately very agitating. Anyway, I appreciate you so much, and looking forward to the next parts! ❤️
It would actually be really cool to watch the James Brown performance he's talking about here. Michael's always cited watching the TAMI Show in 1964 as the exact moment he wanted to be a performer. You can find the whole show separated by song right here on TH-cam.
The exact setlist is
1. Out Of Sight
2. Prisoner Of Love
3. Please, Please, Please
4. Night Train
all posted on the James Brown channel
Facts about the cultural impact of this interview you should know
1. It was, and it remains the most watched TV interview in American history, drawing more than 90 million viewers in the US alone.
2. It pushed the album dangerous back up the charts, which was released in 1991. And this interview was 1993. So millions more copies of dangerous were sold because of this
He was still scared of his dad
32:38 genuine laugh haha and so cute 😂❤ Michael always very articulate and never lost his composure! I admire this
Once I’m done watching I’ll give my entire summarization/thoughts!😇
Literally everywhere
@@MadsHansenXXYessirski!!! My interest in certain things are varied!😂🤝🏽
Good to see you, you are really all over the place and I kinda enjoy it 👍, keep being you
@@archangelrapheal5231Truly appreciate that man thank you!
I can’t wait to watch this 🎉
Michael: spends 30 seconds talking about how questioning his appearance is not relevant
Oprah literally 2 seconds later: *how much plastic surgery have you had??*
🤦♂️ lmao seriously she completely ignored what he said, Michael's patience is truly inspiring my God
It's like she wasnt reallyyyyyy listening to him at points :/
Yasss!!!! I never clicked so fast 😊😊😊😊
WOW! That was like 1 minute of posting the video pretty much xD were you sitting on it haha
@@SephPlays 😂🤣😂not at all I was just on my phone and just as I was putting it down, I got a notification 😄
At that time, anyone would have wanted an exclusive interview with Michael Jackson. And Oprah wastes time asking him stupid questions about whether he sleeps in a hyperbaric chamber or something. Perhaps another person or journalist would have asked her better questions about music and so on, as happened in her interview in 1987, in Ebony.
yessss i've been waiting lemmie watch this now lmao
she was considered the greatest interviewer bc of this type of interview style...not letting ppl off the hook and asking the inconvenient questions. I think times have changed why ppl view it differently now. I did not see critisism of how she placed her questions in 93
The questions were *Fine* . But its the order of which they were asked is what made me annoyed. Michael obviously didn't feel comfortable, this part felt more like a interrogation then a friendly chat to me 😭
@@SephPlays that was her style and ppl loved it
@@katie4aday511 damnnn. Poor celebrities 😢
Oh damn here we go...💀
The anger and frustration that you feel while watching this interview, is the exact reason that I didn’t really want you to see it. I mean there’s some interesting things that he’s talking about, but she is asking such personal questions that it is frustrating and annoying to not only Michael but it was annoying to me when I first watched it. This is actually the first time I’ve seen it since it first aired and it’s just as bad as I remember. I agree with Michael that he should be asked about his craft, his artistry and his process for creating such great music. Those are the types of subjects that would’ve been a better use of time during this interview. But, unfortunately, she like many other journalists of this era decided to take the low road.
I feel you but Michael did say those were some of the things he wanted to talk about, he must have been really tired of those stories, so I'm happy he at least got to clear things up once and for all. The way she asked these questions though was very rude and the way she kept cutting him off really annoyed me.
and I can't wait for part 2 of the interview
In the 2000s he was asked if he had any regrets and he repeated the story about not going to the park across the studio and playing with the other kids 😢 he said he just wished he could have run and just played for a little bit back then.. but hs couldn't 💔
Ya it's sad :( But i think it's twice as said when you actually hear him saying it. It hits so much harder :((((
Yay, finally the Oprah interview!🥳 I see a lot of fans complaining about Oprah asking him all these uncomfortable questions but the way I always understood it is he wanted her to do that. That the reason he agreed to do this interview is to clear these rumors up. He even says "those are some of the things I want to talk about". Although you are right, she could've spaced them out a bit more and have some more light-hearted questions in between. The way she did it it seemed more like an interrogation at times. I'm looking forward to the second part which is a bit less uncomfortable if I remember correctly.😊 Love your reaction as always!
I agree. Although I feel like the virgin question was a little much. I know it would clear things up but it obviously made him uncomfortable.😅
@@N0EL-7007 definitely! Completely over the line and it's the one question where I just face palm every time. But his response was brilliant. Handled it like a champ💪
@@dreamfaller6372 He sure did! I admire him for keeping his composure and having a respectful answer.
Seph you also gotta understand, at this point. No one knew what vitiligo was and why Michael was turning white. Michael never came out and Spoke about it, so all there was, were speculation and rumours. The Bad album cover in 1987 is what really started the whole thing about his skin color. Only here in 1993 did he tell the public. That’s a lot of years of radio Silence and room for questions
The questions are *Fair* (if a little harsh) but the thing that annoyed me more is the way she asked all of them all in a row. She could have spaced them out a little 😅
I think vitiligo what at that time already well known. It's just that medical records are private. Michael was diagnosed at the same time with lupus. You can see the typical butterfly rash from lupus on Michael's cheeks and nose in some pictures around the time of Thriller. Michael never talked about lupus, although it causes awful joint pain, muscle pain, migraines and later inflamed lungs. This was confirmed in his autopsy. When you are diagnosed with lupus plastic surgery in contra indicated, because the skin loses the ability to heal. He had only a nose surgery, this is not considered plastic surgery because many people have blocked air ways or a broken nose. He needed reconstructive surgery on his nose because his skin didn't heal. In his autopsy it was confirmed that he had osteo arthritis in almost all his joints. He only had a surgery on his scull, they placed a balloon under his scull that he had more elasticity. He had migraines after the burn accident. He had no scars from plastic surgery. Michael never talked about his skin disease lupus, although it's really a horrible disease. It often comes together with vitiligo.
Michael is adorable here, I hate to see him getting sad though. Great and insightful interview if you forget about Oprah. I couldn’t care less about whether she believed the allegations or not, although I wish she didn’t. I’m mostly bothered because she gave the most recent accusers a platform, and those guys are just money hungry narcissists. She made it very obvious she didn’t care about Michael or whether they were true or not, she just cared that it was an “accurate representation” of abuse. She also was very two faced with the Jackson family, Katherine trusted her as well as the rest of the family only for her to turn around and stab them in the back. Wherever the money goes I bet you’ll find Oprah right there with it.
All she cares about is painting herself to be an advocate of abuse and some sort of powerful angel, yet she’s everything but. I do know what she is though, a clout chaser.. they all are.
The stuff that Joseph said to his children is just devastating. I try to understand the man, and I respect him on some levels, but I cannot and will not justify any of what he did to them. It’s just heartbreaking.
I really sympathize with Michael and understand him here. I’ve had a difficult relationship with my father, won’t go into detail but there have been times where I was frightened as Michael is. Still despite all that he’s my father. I’ve matured, and so has he, things are better and I forgive him with all my heart. I may never understand why he did what he did, but I won’t ever not love him.
19:15 omg Michael is 34 here and still scared of his father 😢 reminds me of that 1979 interview where he said yes and no right after and then "he's gonna kill me" when they asked if he thought his father was "too strict", this is the first time where he actually spoke more openly about his childhood and what he went through with his father, I completely understand Seph I wish I could protect Michael too 😭 I'm happy he finally had to courage to be honest and say it here, his father was horrible and he never took responsability for anything and kept making excuses and even his brothers downplayed Michael's feelings, Michael literally said he was so scared of him he would throw up when his fafher would step into the room, even as an adult, that's not normal, that's trauma, and you know what really angered me?? He had the nerve to say after with an arrogant tone: "well I didn't know but if he did, he did it all the way to the bank" 🙄😡 he didn't care I doubt he ever apologized cause he didn't think he did nothing wrong and he got the money so what does it matter that he messed up his son's mental state for life 🙄
This interview always makes me feel conflicted.
There is a lot of important, vital information that we learned through it. Like Michel talking about his Vitiligo for the first time, allowing others to understand him and why things were the way they were. And getting to adress and set the record straight about some of the things that were being said.
But it annoys me how much Oprah keeps interrupting him and some of the topics she talks about and how she does it. Granted, some of that can be atributed to the fact that this was live and they only had a limited amount of time but it's so frustrating.
With A Child's Heart was about to play while they play footages of little Michael, thank God it got cut it's just so heartbreaking 😢😢 I just don't understand how his father could be so mean and cruel and why he wasn't allowed to play even for a little bit with the other kids and have fun, I mean it's a basic child right, no child should be denied the right to be a child, I'm sure most of us miss that time of freedom joy typical of childhood, or wish we could go back to that time of no pressure, no responsability or worries every once in a while, meanwhile he was missing something that he never had, imagine not even knowing what that's like since the age of 5 💔😭 and being famous since 8, along with all the trauma, that will cause some form of arrested development, (Brooke Shields believes he suffered from that), it's really not hard to understand why he behaved the way he behaved, some people are just so judgmental and close minded, they just don't want to see things from another perspective
I’m exactly the same too! I don’t like when the cameraman go too close or turn away the camera or the editor changes the camera angles to the wrong camera angle when Micheal would really dance
This interview made Oprah a much bigger star, In 2019 Two men claimed in a program called Leaving Neverland that Micheal abused them, both suing for hundreds of millions, It's now been totally debunked with many facts, one of the Men said he was abused many times in the Neverland train station between 1988 to 1993, but the train station wasn't built until 1994 😯 Oprah jumped on this program like a Vulture in 2019 because her business and ratings were failing and made a talk show called after Neverland where she Interviews these two Men knowing there was no train station because she was there doing this Interview in 1993 and even said at the start that she had the full tour of Neverland. 🐍
But the video that debunked the allegations and all details, has itself been debunked.
Fur example there actually was a station that was later either renovated or rebuilt (i can't remember which) ... and all other things were basically back on the table.
But the problem is that us fans can be too protective and our lives for our hero makes us overlook important facts and even wording.
So, for example, when asked if he abused those little boys he didn't deny it. Instead he said that he would never hurt a child.
Sadly abusers often don't consider it hurting a child.
When he was asked if he was going to stop having little boys sleeping in his bed he said he wouldn't. Very strange from every angle really but we fans like his music so we become blind to this. If Trump had little boys sleeping in his bed how many would view that as fine?
I don't like Oprah... she's an incredibly dubious woman herself! I saw a horrible picture of her clearly setting up a very young, overly made up girl, with Weinstein. She has plenty of allegations against her too and maybe we ought to all just stop ignoring the excess of worrying behaviour by these people just because they are celebrities? One accusation isn't great but these people have a huge stack of them, and lack of evidence isn't lack of guilt.
I think I can like some of his music still but I can't defend his choices and actions even if there is no proof. Sleeping and showering with little boys is, just in itself, not okay. And parents allowing that just because he was a star, is not okay. If anything untoward happened then that is sickeningly not okay. ☹️
@@Samua3 it’s been debunked for lots of things, not just the train station lie. Which is still a lie because it didn’t exist.
(I tried to list all their lies below but my comment wouldn’t go through. I’d recommend reading the critical analysis of LN in the Michael Jackson allegations blog website though.)
If you study their past depositions and then LN you can really see just how much stuff they lied about.
They both only accused because they were struggling financially and wanted to be relevant. Wade didn’t claim anything until his career crumbled and his wife wanted to leave him. He filed his lawsuit under seal for *MONEY*. As Wade himself did say, his story would make him “relatable/relevant”.
James didn’t claim anything until shortly after his family was sued for millions.
Every accuser was either driven by money or weren’t stable. Both of their cases were thrown out and the judge said it was all not believable.
It’s important to remember no child ever claimed anything against Michael, only their parents or in Wade and James case when they were unstable adults. In fact, every child strongly denied them until a manipulative adult in their life saw a money opportunity (Wade and James are their own manipulative adults.)
Also the supposed showering is a lie from Blanca Francia, who would later contradict herself. She was one of the Neverland employees who took tabloid money and also blackmailed Michael.
I also find it quite silly to say fans are too protective to the point of missing out on critical details and facts. I personally researched before becoming a fan, because I wasn’t comfortable with the thought of possibly supporting a monster. I don’t think it’s reasonable to claim this, especially with the amount of research fans do.
I know I’ve done enough to confidently say I don’t believe any of them.
Also important to point out that Oprah has since deleted that interview from her media pages after the backlash when the lies of the accusers started getting revealed
@@Samua3you're literally making up stories. There was never any other train station that was rebuilt or renovated. The actual engineer that built the train has said this. And MJ never "showered with little boys". The disgruntled, fired staff who made that claim contradicted her stories in court and admitted she never actually Saw a child with MJ in the bathroom and she didn't even see MJ himself, she only heard his voice. Learn to research buddy
No the station was there before the permit. It's been checked. There's a lot of information on it.
hey seph! love ur vids!!! I am a young man from PA. I understand your anger with how intrusive and nosey Oprah was being. And while I agree that she took some of those question too far, I feel that in hindsight these questions did a lot of good for Michael's image. for example, if Michael didn't say he had vitiligo when he was asked about his skin, then who know when or how the public would have found out. Basically, what I am saying is that it was better for him to answer these questions during the interview then it would be for some sort of paparazzi photo to come out and cause wide speculation and harassment. Oprah does need to chill though!
24:54 the story is Micheal made a Pepsi comercial with a kid in it who played little Micheal in it, it’s really good
Grazie per il video sandy da roma ❤italy
Oprah was rude, intrusive and unprofessional, I mean she’s a Snake for a reason. The questions about him being a virgin, his love life, the fact that she had to keep noting that he was abused which MJ was uncomfortable talking about and just how she really stretched out those questions about the rumors when he just wanted to clear it up real quick and move on to the more important questions about his art etc. (which she barely touched on). The virgin question though, don't even get me started. That's something no interviewer should EVER ask but of course no one looks at Michael Jackson like he's human which is infuriating and frustrating. He even said in the interview how an artist's craftsmanship is what's most important but she still kept asking the private questions. A true snake if you ask me. And yeah when Elizabeth joined him, he definitely was uncomfortable because he just said he wished he proposed to her lol and he wasn't expecting her to be there. I can imagine it's also uncomfortable when someone is speaking about you right in front of you, I mean how are you supposed to act in that particular situation? Especially being as humble as MJ, when someone is praising you right in front of you, it has to be uncomfortable. Body language experts here on TH-cam will tell you that and they'll tell you he was a shy, humble, sincere person. But when he was asked if the way he was teased about his nose affected his choice to do his nose, he did say no and that's the only time he wasn't sincere. But he later clarified that in other interviews where he seemed more comfortable. Body language experts love him because they can especially see how intelligent and honest he is. But great reaction as always Seph loved it! Also when MJ said he only changed 2 things on his face. It's true he only did his nose and chin (which he also said in his book “Moonwalk”). When you change your nose, your whole face is going to look unrecognizable. Especially going from a wide nose to a thin nose. But those cosmetic surgeries stopped in 1986. Then it was the vitiligo, lupus and burn complications that changed him much more, it made him wear tons of makeup and get reconstructive surgeries for the burns on his scalp and the skin lesions that lupus caused on his face. Lupus and the burns also gave him alopecia on his scalp, eyebrows and eyelashes so he was forced to wear wigs and he really had to cake that makeup on to try and look normal.✍🏽👑🎯💯(I know I’m ahead of Part 2 but it’s just I had my set perspective/summary on this entire interview.)
No offence but I heard that body language "experts" are not really reliable but yes I agree with you that Michael was all of these things, however I have to disagree when you said he was not sincere. Oprah asked him if the reason why he first started doing surgeries was because of not liking the way he looked in his teen years, not really if his father's teasing affected him to do it, and although it did have a very deep effect on his self esteem, the reason why he first started was because he broke his nose in 1979 and needed surgery for that, so he didn't really lie.
In those leaked phone calls, MJ literally said he started getting surgery because he did not want to look like his father. So his answer to Oprah here was sincere even though he was still insecure about his looks.
@@for-house-stark he didn't say exactly that. He said he was happy with his face because at least he didn't look like this father, the fact is that he broke his nose which was what made him do his first surgery.
@@caroline-t5574I’ll say this both things can be true and actually they were MJ started doing surgery cause he didn’t want to look like his father cause of all of the damn teasing he did upon MJ however him breaking his nose on the set of “The Wiz” and having Lupus gave him a valid reasoning to start getting surgery done especially w/ him also discovering he had Lupus as well. With that being said it’s obvious MJ wasn’t being sincere in this instance atleast and tbh rightfully so cause frankly it’s was none of our damn business that’s his own personal medical information!
@@Milkers777 oh definitely maybe he had already thought about doing his nose because of the constant teasing and the accident gave him the opportunity to do so, so in that sense I see what you're saying! So he was and wasn't depending on how you look at it.
You should react to Janet Jackson’s stuff she’s an awesome performer. I’m a huge fan of her and Michael 😊
She had to ask all the shocking questions,calm down😂
I always believed he was innocent of the child molestation charges and was just super in shock when he died. #Gone2Soon
What's irritating is that he felt he had to explain himself as if the world didn't watch him grow up in front of cameras his entire life and the fact that his explanation didn't fit into the general public's narrative of him they chose to go with the narrative they wanted to believe and not the truth.
Michael Jackson is long overdue for an apology and the fact that he'll probably never get one it burns me up
I agree totally that man didn't deserve Michael's forgiveness, that's the thing tho you can forgive but never forget, it's clear they were never close, the fact Michael left him out of his will says a lot lol I would do the same honestly
This turned out to be really sad. Michael agreed to the interview because he trusted Oprah. A lot of us didn't know she was going to interigate him like a police.
Interrogation is definitely what this felt like!
I get the frustration at the type of questions she was asking but you have to understand just how much MJ was being vilified in the media at the time. It was insane. I wanted to hear his responses to these ridiculous stories just so he could set the record straight.
It was Oprah's more recent actions (backing the Leaving Neverland stories) that truly made us fans hate her.
I don't think it was so much the questions that was annoying me, I think it was that she was asking them all in one go ya know? Just spread them out?
See how she keeps attacking him, it doesn't matter u he says, she keeps attacking, he is better than me! 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
I'm just reading over some of these comments, and it seems to be 50/50 on the people who thought this was *Ok* and people who thought like you and me do. I personally think this part felt more like an interrogation then a friendly chat ya know?
I cant stand Oprah now. But these questions were necessary. He has to clear the record on these rumors. Dancing around the questions just comes off as more disingenuous.
32:39 his laugh 🥺
At that time * before the oprah interview* she didn't say anything negative about michael, she only exposed Joseph for having a love child which now we now is true, she talked about physical abuse, she also said joe sexually abused rebbie, btw in the glenda tapes *Michael's recorded phone call with glenda* he said everything latoya said in her book was true.
Ahhhhh DAMN!! ok that part of the phone call makes a trillion % more sense now!
You have to understand that this was the first interview after thriller and bad. And the world got soo many questions. I remember this interview. I was 13 years old and we all wanted to know everything she was asking. Obviously today we know much more but at that time no one knew anything about his skin change etc. So I understood why she asked those questions. It was a different time you know
This don't excuse the way she asked these questions tho, was very rude, she could have phrased them a little better or more respectfully
It seems like Seph was actually saying that her asking the personal questions right after each other was annoying and overwhelming. He’s saying if you have to ask them, at least soften the blow a little by putting in some lighthearted questions lol! (I know that the one about why he grabbed his crotch eventually came 🤣)
I feel like she beating up him emotionally
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭🤣
Bro this interview was huge. Fake oprah unfortunately held the interview. But this was cool, and sad at the same time. This was right before the allegations, and she turned on him fast as hell!
She totally betrayed his trust and threw him under the bus as we all know in recent years and is only interested in promoting her own career in the process, should be ashamed of her conduct! Pure evil
where do you even find this interview? I've been looking everywhere and couldn't find anything
I don't like that this is edited
And completely stripped of the produced segments diving deep into Michaels childhood.. I remember the first time ever watching this and almost the entire family was in tears because you really never got to hear Suzanne De Passes words and the price he actually paid. Here all that is taken out and all you get is Michael talking. You should truly experience the entire thing as it aired, It truly adds more to the full experience. I can find you an HD link with everything still included if you give me an hour.🎯
I watched it all but due to copyright issue's it had to be deleted out :(
Please can someone tell me how I can find the interview without narrative
Because of the copyright you can't find this video online 😩 only way you can watch all of it is through videos like this one
react to michael and his wife lisa marie presley on ohrah
they were on Diane Sawyer and that will be later in 1995...he is now in the year 93 working his way up chronologically
@@katie4aday511 For me one of the most horrible interviews.
Hate oprah 🤮
Sameee!
Janet jackason about vitiligo 1993 mtv video skin disorder MTV youtube
I used to think Ophra was special when I was younger until I learned who she was. I dont trust her.
Where can I watch the interview without some random guy pausing video and talking
Its has copyright.. If i didn't pause it and talk over it then it would be removed for copyright infringement and i would be sued thousands of dollars.
Can't stand her anymore 😡
Oprah was ok, she got some good interviews later on. sure some questions were kinda wild but she was still young here. She did get famous for a reason she became much better at getting people to open up and talk about their traumas properly and supporting them. I guess she was already trying this here with MJ but was too inexperienced with the back to back questions like you mentioned. plus MJ is a really closed off person on top of that.
The hate towards her from the fandom came when she decided to not even take a neutral but anti MJ stance when the accusations happened and she did even more than just that after his death which youll get to at the end of ur mj journey.
DEPECHE MODW SO CRUEL
He completely changed his face with plastic surgery, wearing so much make up, he changed into a real live clown
You are the real clown for judging others based on appearance; get tf out of here
Why do you people come here when you’re just going to be ignorant or hypocritical? 🤦♀️
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The fact is that he‘s only had his nose done (+ the chin cleft) for reconstuction, because he suffered from lupus, which destroyed his nose tissue. Besides of that he also lost his lashes, eyebrows and hair. Additionally the disorder caused him to have a reduced lung capacity.
@@sandy80_gerto be fair he had nose surgeries before needing reconstructive surgeries, but I do believe later on due to lupus, healing difficulties, and possibly the Pepsi burns he had to go under the knife often. No doubt he started having surgeries due to insecurities, but I think the majority of it was health related and or just because they botched it. Still I agree with what you’re saying. ☺️