Michelin Pilot Sport 4 vs Pilot Sport 4 S vs Cup 2. The differences tested and explained

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    It's taken over a year, but it's finally here. What are the differences between the Michelin Pilot Sport 4, Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2.
    The Pilot Sport 4 (MPS4 / PS4) and 4 S (MPS4S / PS4S) are the road tyres, with the 4 designed slightly more for comfort and the 4 S more suited to track work. The Cup 2 is the Michelin track day tyre and should be considered if you plan on doing a lot of track miles.
    Any questions please ask below :)
    Tyres tested in the video:
    Michelin Pilot Sport 4 - www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Miche...
    Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S - www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Miche...
    Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 - www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Miche...
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  • @MHRDarkman
    @MHRDarkman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +823

    You know someone really knows their stuff when they can thrash a car round a track AND provide nuanced feedback at the same time. These reviews must take a significant amount of planning and preparation and it shows.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Thank you :)

    • @1Dustin
      @1Dustin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd say over a year...

    • @Big2009Gee
      @Big2009Gee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      When he's giving his review he's not pushing too hard or doing his timed laps you can see a few mistakes like lift off in the wrong places or gear change mid corner. He's just doing that bit for the camera.

    • @paulinecolbert1356
      @paulinecolbert1356 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Turbo Sam .

    • @mastefaniuk254
      @mastefaniuk254 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      for me it means that he goes to slow. With proper speed there is no room for talking...

  • @HulkBogan
    @HulkBogan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    Where was this man when they recasted top gear?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Write to your local MP ;)

    • @HulkBogan
      @HulkBogan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Mate I'm already halfway through creating a Change.org page

  • @mrmarrow8918
    @mrmarrow8918 5 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    How can a tyre review be that interesting.... nice work!

  • @leeku7768
    @leeku7768 5 ปีที่แล้ว +561

    How does this channel have 27K subscribers and crappy super cars of London have 700k+? Brilliant review keep em coming.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Paul from Supercars of London is a good friend of mine and does excellent work for what his audience enjoy watching. Sadly tyres are a little more niche so the growth is very slow but I'm glad you're enjoying the work :)

    • @muumuumu
      @muumuumu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      most people dont care about tyres at all, they just like shiny expensive cars

    • @martinallenuk
      @martinallenuk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@muumuumu Spot on.

    • @riccccccardo
      @riccccccardo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tyre Reviews I tell people about tires all the time I own 4x PS4 tires but all people are interested in is used 2nd hand £20 tires 😐

    • @muzillla
      @muzillla 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I only have 2, both on the nearside

  • @Eqonium
    @Eqonium 5 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Thank you for putting so much time and effort in to these videos, your information stands head and shoulders above so much internet dross :)

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you for your kind words :)

  • @jonholmes9407
    @jonholmes9407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you for this content. Finding a constructive impartial tyre review is almost impossible but you do it and do it well! Keep up the good work, fellow tyre geek.

  • @future_phonk
    @future_phonk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just discovered this channel. I'm already impressed by the production and information given with no BS!

  • @Gatitasecsii
    @Gatitasecsii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude, underrated channel, this production deserves AT LEAST hundreds of thousands of audience.

  • @y330gary
    @y330gary 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The most under-rated channel ever, Deserves way more subs. Thank you for your service!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your kind words :)

  • @t.h.4632
    @t.h.4632 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Well that was the best tyre comparison I´ve ever seen. Precise, to the point, and the subjective feedback was highly relevant as well. I am super satisfied with my latest set of MPS4. They appear exactly as you review them here. I now know which tire to go for if I need track tires. Thanks a lot for this superior review TyreReviews! I will make sure to recommend this channel to all car and tire geeks I know!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's very kind of you to say, thank you :)

  • @SteveWeltman
    @SteveWeltman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I have an F30 BMW and the wife’s car primarily. Added the PS4S tires and thrilled with the quality and handling improvements over the Pirelli PZero all seasons. Can’t imagine how fun the Cup2 tires would be. Thanks again!

  • @darchandarchan7036
    @darchandarchan7036 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Found your channel just this morning, that’s the content I’ve been seeking for a long time

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you're finding it useful :))

  • @cmercer555
    @cmercer555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is one of the best reviews I've seen recently for anything. Tires (Tyres) are a tough subject to review and provide decent information. You pulled it off perfectly! Great Job. I subscribed to make sure I see great commentary.

    • @cmercer555
      @cmercer555 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wanted to provide a bit more information to help regarding tire performance. A friend of mine and I do autocross. I have an F-Type (2017 BDE), and he has a 2017 Shelby 350 GT Mustang (a great track car). We both wore out our tires doing track day events and autocross, and he's been chasing my times when we both had Pilot Sport 4S's. He changed it up and got the Cup 2's and I found myself chasing him. Those tires really do make up the difference when it comes to track times. I loved the subjective review. Very well done.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the kind words

  • @Wreck-Gar
    @Wreck-Gar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Because of your previous reviews I went for the PS4 in 18" on our C4 Grand Picasso for the wet and braking performance. The other week during a sudden downpour on the motorway there was no hint of aquaplaning and they felt like I was driving on a dry road. The previous Bridgestones would have had us sliding into another lane like they once did before. Thanks and keep up the great reviews 👍

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're awesome tyres, glad you're enjoying them!

  • @gootballe583
    @gootballe583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    After lots of research I bought the Pilot Sport 4 for my A3 22540r18. Really pleased with them. Best tyres I have ever driven.

  • @RoadandRacetv
    @RoadandRacetv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Simply stunning. The definitive comparison.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cheers bro :)

    • @RoadandRacetv
      @RoadandRacetv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tyre Reviews Drone footage, track rental, camera crew, 3 sets of tyres! It must have cost you a small fortune!

  • @johannalevoniemi289
    @johannalevoniemi289 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Two hours ago bought Ps 4 to my FiST. Mostly commuting/only couple of trackdays . Thanks for informative review.

  • @veloxsterinkognito7512
    @veloxsterinkognito7512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very professional video! You can see that some thought was put into it, to also do a subjective rating and to have an overlay with the tire name in the video during the driving scenes.

  • @sAmiZZle82
    @sAmiZZle82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy does the most meaningful, timely and enjoyable tyre reviews! It's like he reads my mind and knows the tyres that I'm interested in

  • @z-ro34
    @z-ro34 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've just discovered this channel. Great reviews!

  • @TaisChuu
    @TaisChuu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Very informative as always, keep up the good work :)
    Would love to see a cup2 vs AD08R vs RE71R vs R1R comparison, or how tire pressure affects steering feel and handling of a car.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      On the lists for next year :)

    • @zeljkovojnovic
      @zeljkovojnovic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      How about pirelli trofeo r vs michelin sport cup 2 ?

  • @jm9371
    @jm9371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    FANTASTIC REVIEW from a very competent, expert driver! The technical information is spot on also. I replaced the stock Continentals with the MPS 4S for my 2018 M2 with great confidence. This is my daily driver in a location that gets a lot of wet weather. This is one of the best tire review channels out there...

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the kind words, glad you like the Michelins

  • @billss19
    @billss19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And that review is cream of the crop! Once in a generation, does a voice speak so clearly.

  • @kalvenjamieson70
    @kalvenjamieson70 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    simply the best tyre review video i have ever seen , keep up the great work , western australia

  • @COU51N.Kyle.
    @COU51N.Kyle. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Next mod on the Evo will definitely be a set of PS4S. Thank you for the awesome review!!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let me know how you get on with them!

  • @collyersam
    @collyersam 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Great review and quality content, for those who care about tyres.

  • @Parabloop3r
    @Parabloop3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this review! I've been debating between getting Continentals or Michelin Pilot Sport 4s for my Suzuki Swift Sport, and this helped a lot, especially learning that the 4 and 4S were so similar.

  • @Trendyflute
    @Trendyflute 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish everyone could describe and show vehicle dynamics the way you do, it's excellent. Love your thorough work, you're a great driver, and your work on tires is invaluable and exciting, yet you're also just an asset to the automotive world!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really appreciate the kind words :)

  • @vinodramluckan4099
    @vinodramluckan4099 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review, these tyre reviews are so important, glad you went with the focus st, great drivers car.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I really enjoyed the Focus!

  • @gamerfreakUK
    @gamerfreakUK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have PS4s on my E46 330Ci on 18s and I absolutely love them. Fantastic tyres and would definitely buy again. Great in the dry, more than adequate in the wet. Drove from the south of England to Nurburgring in the summer, had a bit of newbie fun over three laps and drove back. Can’t really fault them!
    I actually struggle to rate them against Yoko A008s I have on my classic Mini on 10s, but I wouldn’t really expect to - both fantastic tyres in their own right.

  • @dazman76
    @dazman76 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for taking the time to put this together. It's a great video, all the important info and far better than other tests I've seen. A perfect choice of tyres to compare, given Michelin's baffling decision to deny us the PS4S in 18" sizes. Possibly the best road tyre ever made, unavailable in a very common spec. Sort it out please Michelin!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the kind words! 18" ps4s is available in America,hopefully we'll get them soon!

  • @ScottoGrotto
    @ScottoGrotto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate this test to see how the different pilots compare overall, and their track abilities! Thanks!

  • @Rmf8
    @Rmf8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Awesome work as always!
    Great review.
    Would be great to see a test of fwd vs rwd vs awd and how different tyres suit certain drive trains better.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      On the list :) Such a test is very difficult to qualify, but I'm going to try and make it work.

    • @Rmf8
      @Rmf8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tyre Reviews,
      Appreciate the time and effort you put in! 👍

    • @johnr.1592
      @johnr.1592 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tyre Reviews As one of many many CSI, FiST FoST and GTI owners, I was very happy to see a performance fwd car with these 3 tires compared.
      Just subscribed the other day hoping for a ps4s v psc2 review, and Im jazzed that it came a couple days later and with a car like mine. Keep up the fantastic work!

  • @denniskwok7613
    @denniskwok7613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That's a larger difference between the PS4 and PS4 S than I was expecting. Makes me feel justified in sticking to my 19'' wheels, seeing as we can't get 18'' PS4 S tyres in the UK.
    Thanks for another great video. I think you're the only channel that does tests like this, which is a strange situation considering the amount of 'which tyre' threads you see all over the forums and FB groups. Keep up the good work!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you found it useful :)

  • @-TRI4X-
    @-TRI4X- 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been so waiting for this review, Thank you! Great test again!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it didn't disappoint :)

  • @aZebraInATopHat
    @aZebraInATopHat 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been trying to decide between the 4S and Cup 2s for my Focus ST for a while now. This video has definitely helped make my mind up! Amazing content, you've definitely earned a new subscriber!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, really glad it was useful :)

  • @kurtphillips124
    @kurtphillips124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great review. This has mirrored my opinions on the PS4. Fantastic everyday tyre with loads of grip in all conditions but for me was too dull and an a bit vague at times for how I like to drive. Ended up replacing them with Cup 2s due to not having PS4S or SC6 in 18" sizes and they are simply on another level for sport driving. Looking forward to your future content!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad our data agrees :) Side note, the SC6 is coming in 18" soon

  • @Fred_P
    @Fred_P 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fantastic video. Definitely made me less bummed out by the fact that I have 18" wheels and can't put the PS4S on. The PS4 seems to be the best option for the road, thanks for sorting that out.
    Can't wait for your upcoming winter tyre tests. Make sure to include some nordic tyres, such as the Goodyear UltraGrip Ice 2, Continental Conti Viking Contact 6 and the Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3 for us Scandinavians : )

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Living in the UK I've very little opportunity to test the Nordic winters, but it's something I'm going to speak to tyre manufacturers for next year as there's certainly a market outside of the UK :)

    • @Fred_P
      @Fred_P 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I understand. Thanks for considering it. Keep up the good work!

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The roads where I live are too shit for 19" wheels anyway - as it ison 18" I seem to end up having to get one or more wheels repaired from pothole damage every couple of years, 19" would just get destroyed.

  • @thedownshiftchannel
    @thedownshiftchannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work and thanks for the test I was looking at jumping from PS4 to cup 2

  • @thamilawrence8468
    @thamilawrence8468 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review , I recently helped a friend to put Cup 2s on his M5 CP and he says the tyres are brilliant and turned a car into a different beast in the corners.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great choice, that must be amazing!

  • @HexlGaming
    @HexlGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    So: PS4S as a daily & Cup 2 if you do track days... or the PS4 if you need an extra couple % in comfort.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Essentially yeah :)

    • @PhilbyFavourites
      @PhilbyFavourites 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyrereviews so question: PS4 for an AMG GLA45 driven by a fairly lazy motorcyclist. I love my comfort but the ability to clip a few apexes on the back roads is about my limit.
      And finally the killer question, the GLA45 like the whole of the GLC range scrubs its tyres on cold weather early morning getting it out of the garage and onto the road. It’s on the original (down to 3mm on the front) Continentals. Should I make the change to PS4 for a new pair on the fronts? If so will it stop the scrubbing or exacerbate it?
      Answers on a postcard as they used to say 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @RobWhittlestone
    @RobWhittlestone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Excellent review. I think the best tyre review I have ever seen. Great knowledgeable details. Excellent videography, sound. I wish I could give you 1000 thumbs up.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha thank you, you're too kind.

  • @anddee4938
    @anddee4938 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just ordered a set. I’m very excited about them.

  • @dannydozer
    @dannydozer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't know how much I needed this video. Tremendous work! Got yourself a new subscriber.

  • @1Dustin
    @1Dustin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome review. Just got the 4S's on a MK3 TTS. The feedback, and grip vs the OEM bridgestone s001 is absolutely night and day! Interesting to see how they compare to the 4 as well! All fantastic tyres.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you're enjoying them :)

    • @MrMduchesne23
      @MrMduchesne23 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those bridgestones s001 give up traction suddenly at the limit. Very frightening. I went with continental extreme contact sport tires. It was an amazing difference

  • @The.Drunk-Koala
    @The.Drunk-Koala 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Those pilot sports are bloody good. I have only used michelin for the last 10 years. Yes they are expensive but there is a reason they are, not gonna change ever

  • @TheTexican05
    @TheTexican05 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:00 - our man truly loves his job! Cuddling up with the sticky tires for the outro. 🤗 ❤
    Seriously - thank you for all the time and work you put into these. I had a 10-yr amateur racing career, and I've had/built/calibrated a lot of performance cars (engine and chassis calibration are my specialties)...and I don't think I have your sensory perception for all the little behavioral changes by changing between tires that are all within ~1 second of one another.
    You have a gift, and you're running with it! Cheers from TX. 🍻 ✌

  • @gamereviewsoldskoolgamer9718
    @gamereviewsoldskoolgamer9718 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just had Pilot Sport 4 fitted to my JCW and I’m really happy with them. My car came with Michelin primacy tyres from factory and I felt they were a very trashy ride. I don’t do track days but I enjoy the odd country lane sprint so the Sport 4 is perfect for me. Thanks for the video.

  • @ornatehammer661
    @ornatehammer661 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    just bought a pair of Michelin ps4 thank you for you're rewiev !

  • @TheSpragz
    @TheSpragz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. I searched for this after swapping the PS4S out for PS4 on my GR Yaris due to down sizing.
    The combination of more side wall and PS4 on my new wheels feels amazing. Better comfort and brilliant in the wet.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not miss the handling?

    • @TheSpragz
      @TheSpragz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyrereviews I think I would if I were be driving on track but on the poor British roads the more forgiving sidewall of the ps4 feels better.

    • @PiOfficial
      @PiOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Had the same experience just went from 235/35/19 to 245/40/18. Extra sidewall has made potholes so much less painful and the overall ride is way better.
      Actual grip levels are pretty much the same I don’t care about any change in lean or delay.

  • @mistral-unizion-music
    @mistral-unizion-music หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this great review, very helpful to decide which one to choose.

  • @don220486
    @don220486 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent. Thanks for the review! So informative.

  • @JP-uk9uc
    @JP-uk9uc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I purchased the sport 4S on my 2016 Focus ST back in July and I'm happy with them for a daily driver. Coming off the Eagle F1 which had tighter grip for sure, they were just too loud and stiff for the commute back and forth from work, not to mention $60 more a tire. I've noticed that the Sport 4S makes allot of grinding noise without breaking loose. I've yet to try them on the track. Overall I'm happy with the ride quality and noise reduction they offer, even if it is at the sacrifice of the better steering and response the Eagle F1s had. Given the ride quality, it's no surprise there sports feel a tad slushly in the hard corners.

  • @JoeAchilles1
    @JoeAchilles1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Another VERY interesting and useful video mate, just wish I could get cup 2s on my 140... Cheers man

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Borrow my wheels ;)

    • @1061shrink1061
      @1061shrink1061 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cup2 still my preferred high performance road / track day tyre. I haven’t yet found anything else that does both so well. Many better track tyres, but they’re horrific on the road, noisy, harsh and poor in the wet. Conversely there are better road tyres but none that don’t melt on the track immediately! Cup2 is justifiably expensive!

  • @stupenduzzman
    @stupenduzzman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review. Was looking for a comparison between PS4S and Cup2 everywhere online. Glad I checked TH-cam - Subscribed!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found it useful :)

  • @SurfandTurfJay
    @SurfandTurfJay 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your website and TH-cam are awesome. Really helped me in choosing tyres for my Kia Stinger GT. Cheers 👍🏼

  • @hakosuka2
    @hakosuka2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Only subd recently but i'm really appreciating this in depth quality content! Would just like to know, are/were you a professional racing driver? The amount of information and feel you can get out of a car is amazing.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you :) Never been a professional (as in paid) but I used to do a lot of karting and track days, and I race from time to time if someone wants to give me a seat! Sadly I can't afford to hobby race it's too expensive :(

  • @D4NHV
    @D4NHV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Informative and perfectly shot.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it :)

  • @CatalinAdc
    @CatalinAdc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb review 👍👍 One of the best comparison ever seen... Don't stop with them

  • @mc3films
    @mc3films 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent comparo, Jonathan!

  • @Alphapunk2
    @Alphapunk2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just replaced my Bridgestone ER33 with Michelin PS4 for my car. Much quieter, vibrations are dampened, slightly less often tyre slip when hard accelerating from a complete stop or going uphill. All the more pleasure it is to drive now! I highly recommend this tyre!

    • @frightenedsoul
      @frightenedsoul 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What car did you put them on?

  • @Crosshead1
    @Crosshead1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Precisely the review I’ve been waiting for. It’s good to have confirmed that the 4 isn’t the poor relation of the 4S that so many claim it to be as I can’t buy a 4S here in Australia in the size I need for my car. Many thanks.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you found it useful :)

    • @kasparov9
      @kasparov9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sucks right? I was forced to get the 4 too at 225/40/18, had PSS on 4 at 3 different times and they were amazing, fantastic feedback.
      The 4 is super fast amazing lateral grip but much less road feedback compared to the PSS, if you're going through a round about real fast the PSS gives you much more precise control, the 4 you dont feel the tyres near as much.

  • @MrWindmad
    @MrWindmad 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Long awaited and exceeding expectations! Such good info!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it :)

  • @shenava
    @shenava 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...and about time too. Been waiting ages for this video. Thanks

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @a5oh410
    @a5oh410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I went from p zero’s to PS4S and I’m in love with how comfortable the PS4S feels when spirited driving compared to the pzero. Even on a regular drive of 50mph and below the tires still feel way better, which I was expected based off the many reviews. I’d definitely buy ps4s again

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the great info! If you ever get time it would be great if you could leave a review at www.tyrereviews.com/submit.htm 😊

    • @kleroooo
      @kleroooo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the basic PZero? And what about noise? What width? :)

    • @a5oh410
      @a5oh410 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kleroooo I’ve had Pzero Nero and regular Pzero as far as road noise. I don’t really hear the PS4S as much as the Pzeros. Grip of the PS4S is so much better, and work well enough in the rain even at high speeds gradually. Only downside I would say is they’re expensive and wear out easily if you’re constantly giving them the beans lol. If you’re looking for all around great preforming and semi decent lasting tire I’d say the PS4S is a must. Obviously they’ll last longer depending on how you drive. The size I got 305 in the rear and 285 in the front all around PS4S

    • @kleroooo
      @kleroooo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@a5oh410 Thank you! Finally, i got an important input for my choice. My rear is 285 wide, and earlier I had a PZero. Felt fine regarding noise and comfort. Now I have a Hankook S1EVO3, but the feeling is much worse(very wobbly and dull) and a lil bit harsher and noisier. (on the other hand it destroys the Pzero in rain. it's like I'm driving on a dry road, that perfect. The PZero was dangerously crap, never buy it again)
      I was hesitating between PS4 and PS4s. I didnt want even bumpier and noisier tires. But also did not want to have dull ones.... So what you wrote regarding PS4S and PZero in the same size...now it is a nobrainer that Ill buy the PS4S! THANK YOU!

    • @a5oh410
      @a5oh410 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kleroooo yes sir! Let me know how you like them when they come it.

  • @pit19931
    @pit19931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing review !! Next up i think should be Pirelli pzero vs the new pzero 4. You dont have a lot of info on the new pzero 4 .

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks :) Working on it!

  • @scootsmcdoots80
    @scootsmcdoots80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn’t expect to see a gun show. Pleasant surprise. 💪

  • @fuelledfunny
    @fuelledfunny 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video; top notch production, entertaining and insightful - keep up the good work chap.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really appreciated, thank you :)

  • @DiiZeh_
    @DiiZeh_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Bought 4 new 'Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S' tyres for my Scirocco! Love these tyres! Amazing grip, handling, and also they look awesome!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you're enjoying your tyres :)

    • @Tcuel
      @Tcuel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What tire did you run before?

    • @DiiZeh_
      @DiiZeh_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tcuel Continental Contact Sport 3’s! Sorry for the late reply!

    • @Tcuel
      @Tcuel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you :)

    • @kasparov9
      @kasparov9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bought 4 New Pilot Sport 4 for my mazda 3 MPS 2008, the lateral.acceleration and braking are amazing, though definitely a huge drop in road feedback compared to the Pilot Super Sports that Ive had the last 3 pairs.
      Any idea why? Why would Michelin drop the road feedback so much?

  • @vasjalesjak3846
    @vasjalesjak3846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    PS4 is an excelent tyre, but it really overheats too quickly. nice review!

  • @mrbbs
    @mrbbs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks again for the putting your time and efforts in making these videos, although it's only 13 minutes long it takes weeks, even months to put this together.
    Two weeks ago I commented on another video of yours. I had my S2000 fitted with PS4S in 215/45 R17 and 245/40 R17 which I imported from the US. I'm used to PSS on my GT86 and thought this would be the best choice. However I ran into huge understeer and the back was to planted, it was no fun. So I sold the tires and ordered myself PS4's in experimental sizes: 225/45 R17 in the front and 235/45 R17 in the rear. These tire sizes lifted the car by +- 0.6mm due to the higher sidewall. But changing to the PS4 in these sizes made the balance so much better. It's much more neutral than before. But I was shocked by the grip the PS4 offered. I'm very picky om my tires and was pleasantly surprised. The tires were also half the price of the PS4S which I imported from the US. I was a bit doubtful on the PS4 as I tried it before on the GT86, and it gave me a faulty view as I combined them with 2 PSS tires. When I putted the PS4 on the front and the PSS on the rear I had massive understeer. If I reversed that and put the PS4 on the back I had huge oversteer. I think the PSS has a sidewall that is just a little bit more stiff and squared in comparison to the PS4. So people, if you try new tires always chose to replace all four tires!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A good post and glad you're finding your ideal tyre setup :)

  • @OctaneStreet
    @OctaneStreet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing info, thanks a lot for this one. Cool that Mustang GT with PP1 comes with PS4 S', and PP2 comes with Cup 2's!

  • @christersundin773
    @christersundin773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I often drive in rain (because I live in Sweden) so I think I'll go for the 4S. Also, understeer is not a problem (M3 E46)

  • @IMGONEIN60
    @IMGONEIN60 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this review it was very informative I have the 4S on my new 2019 bullitt but have not done any performance driving as I am breaking it in for the first 1000 miles.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice car!

    • @IMGONEIN60
      @IMGONEIN60 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tyre Reviews thank you very much is there a review of the NItto 555 G2 in the future?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We don't get the Nitto brand in the UK, but it's something I'll look at doing in the future in America :)

    • @IMGONEIN60
      @IMGONEIN60 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tyre Reviews Thanks that would be much appreciated I am going to subscribe to your channel feel free to check out my videos on the bullitt if you wish

  • @747Durango
    @747Durango 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good comparison review and driving too. I am running the PS A/S 3+ on my daily. Amazing all weather grip. Now I have learned more about the performance line.

  • @victorbarbulescu8794
    @victorbarbulescu8794 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super helpful video. Driving that exact same ST version and this was exactly the kind of review I was looking for. Thank you and keep up the good work!

  • @stefstef4895
    @stefstef4895 5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I really hope this video becomes a data-reference point

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I believe it's the only reference point currently! :)

    • @stefstef4895
      @stefstef4895 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tyre Reviews l meant it in a renowned-dictionary kind of way

    • @NothingXemnas
      @NothingXemnas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it already is. Feedback is good for any company that wants to stay competitive in the market.

  • @TheKevzx6r
    @TheKevzx6r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have Michelin PS4 on my summer car. They're phenomenal. I also have cross climates on everyday car. Michelin are the best!

  • @its_mysterion
    @its_mysterion 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a FBO and tuned St and was actually looking to get the 4s because I live in area that's dusty and rainy on occasions so I think the p4s is calling my name. Great review.

  • @jguo
    @jguo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review! I've just changed the front tyres of my M4 Comp from Pilot Super Sport to PS4S and the PS4S feel notably more comfortable and compliant.

    • @nazmulhoque5710
      @nazmulhoque5710 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which tyres did u have on the rear? I can’t seem to find a OE ps4s for rear…

  • @CorvusHyperion
    @CorvusHyperion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Totally agrees with my subjective experience of the Sport Cup 2s on a Focus RS - they are not great in the wet!

    • @Flamur804
      @Flamur804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In summer time most of the time road is dry 😉

  • @rolexr
    @rolexr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have the 4S on my MUSTANG GT and on my BMW M135i before - they are AWESOME !!!

    • @gamefoorum
      @gamefoorum 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Andrew normal 4 itself can wear pretty quick , 4s even bit softer compound = even bit quicker

  • @caseyjarosiewicz773
    @caseyjarosiewicz773 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison! I just bought the sport 4 for my Charger R/T and happy with my purchase. It's a daily driver with a few moments of shenanigans. Thank you!

  • @sid12345678910
    @sid12345678910 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this channel is amazing! just bought P4 for my c43. Thanks for the review!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoy it! If you ever get time it would be great if you could leave a review at www.tyrereviews.com/submit.htm 😊

  • @tyrereviews
    @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    You can now watch Cup 2 VS Cup 2 R here! th-cam.com/video/BGlivTy4Ydg/w-d-xo.html

    • @juzoli
      @juzoli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tyre Reviews You should’ve make it a blind test on the track. The “road feel” or “track feel” doesn’t worth anything when you test it with preconception.

    • @acezhou8
      @acezhou8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please RE71R.

    • @8359s
      @8359s 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Could you please test N rated Potenza S02? I am choosing between this and PS4 for Porsche 944. I also am for blind tests.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sadly the S02 is such an old tyre now there's no way I'd get it into a group test. I used to love the S02, it was one of the last great bridgestone tyres!

    • @knjpollard
      @knjpollard 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent analysis. Based upon the relative times you got, PS4S to me those are the overall winner. I think the compare of PS4S and RE71R would be interesting. Subbed.

  • @angi733
    @angi733 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Had to settle for the Sport 4 for my M Coupe on 17" wheels, would have liked the 4S :)

  • @cmarnold78
    @cmarnold78 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks so much for making this, this is a great review.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you found it useful :)

  • @paulnowlin2901
    @paulnowlin2901 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always like your reviews, very informative. Been waiting for this one! Excellent review! Thanks!

  • @adrianvioli
    @adrianvioli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You're a legend. Great review! Wish it was a little earlier actually as I just put the PS4 on my Focus ST! Haha. Was amazed to see your video. I've noticed that vagueness you mentioned on turn in too. Just a little softer than the factory Goodyear F1s and not as darty into a corner. But, in Australia too like the UK, the 4S is 19 inch up so couldn't get them for my stock wheels. The 4 was good value too.
    Could I ask what Psi you ran the tyres at?
    Thanks again!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We ran stock pressures on all three sets, I can't remember what that was at the moment! We had to use 235/40 R19 for this test too, the stock size is 235/35 R19.

    • @stevehash158
      @stevehash158 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TassieLorenzo go for mhc2 they are fookin flawless on rwd awd or fwd cars.. Pirelli Corsa is the only close thing but they wear much quicker..

    • @adrianvioli
      @adrianvioli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tyrereviews Thanks. Late reply sorry. I was trying to decide whether to put the Good Years back on the car (focus ST) again down the track or not. Definitely not as comfortable as the ps4 but do feel a fraction sportier. Wish Michelin did a 4S in an 18"!!

  • @Catalina._
    @Catalina._ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This test is what i've been waiting for!!!
    (Even though i still believe in my Pilot Sport HP Primacy)

  • @rodhunter1034
    @rodhunter1034 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most comprehensive and yet kept it simple with great editing. I would love to see a comparison on the Dunlop to cup2 on the GT2RS 2018

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      if I could get someone to lend me a gt2rs I'd be doing just that!

  • @gwcrispi
    @gwcrispi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. My Hyundai Veloster R-spec came with the PS4, but I will upgrade to the PS4S when I've used up the first set of tires as I bought the car for track use.

  • @christosangelidis7327
    @christosangelidis7327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent review as always. I'm curious though as to how the Giti GT3R , recently reviewed in one of your videos, would compare with the 4s. Driving a FWD heavy hot hatch with more than 350 bhp (focus RS mk2) can make the 4s's side wall feel a bit on the soft side and Cup 2 is not an trouble free every day option (at least not where I live). Regards.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is a test I really want to do. At a guess I would say the GTR3 will be sharper in the dry and worse in the wet but I'm not sure how much. Keep an eye on tyre reviews instagram as I'm about to try the GTR3s on my own M3 as a daily.

    • @christosangelidis7327
      @christosangelidis7327 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looking forward to that

  • @15october91
    @15october91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I’d love to see a review on the PS4 vs PSS (since I can’t fit the others).

    • @MHRDarkman
      @MHRDarkman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is wrong with the one posted February last year on this channel? th-cam.com/video/F65rXOlS2f8/w-d-xo.html

    • @midnighteightsix6919
      @midnighteightsix6919 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe the PS4S replaced the PSS.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's the PS4S vs PSS. It will be a good video to watch though as it will give you an idea between all three tyres, sadly not directly. I doubt I'll get chance to do PSS vs PS4 at any point :(

    • @1061shrink1061
      @1061shrink1061 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      PSS is almost the same as PS4S, so basically if you watch this video you'll see that a standard PS4 is a little softer, a little better in the wet and a little more comfortable. I had PSS and PS4 in the same sizes, and the PS4 definitely wasn't as crisp and agile as the PSS, but it was quieter and more comfortable.

    • @marfrandema1884
      @marfrandema1884 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I need one comparison between ps4 and xbox

  • @leevardy852
    @leevardy852 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review as always! No nonsense comparison! 💪🏼
    Wish Michelin would pull there finger and make more, much needed sizes!
    Would love to see a comparison video with the top rated “run-flat” tyres
    Keep up the good work!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love to do a runflat test too, definitely speaking to people about it

  • @yogipower1598
    @yogipower1598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been using Bridgestone tires for 15+ years and I'm switching to ps4s this time. Thanks for amazing video

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem 👍 Let me know how you find them

  • @classiccarssp
    @classiccarssp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great Review! Can we say PS4 are like PremiumContact6 and PS4S are like SportContact6?? Thanks in advance

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is exactly how they're positioned :)

    • @madsdgdhg
      @madsdgdhg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's the way Continental wants to sell PremiumContact 6, but it seems an inferior sport tire when compared to the SportContact 5 specially in wet handling and wet traction. This might be related to changes in the Premiumcontact 6 compound to improve longevity. Sadly the bigger brother the SportContact 6 is not available in 18" sizes. So although the SportContact 5 is an older tire, it might be a better choice than the premiumcontact 6 for someone wanting a sport tire from continental in 18" size. Correct me if I'm wrong. Cheers.

    • @dufonrafal
      @dufonrafal 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The PremiumContact 6 is both against the Primacy 4 & the Pilot Sport 4 while the SportContact 6 is both against the Pilot Sport 4 S & the Pilot Sport Cup 2

    • @mikemerritt9243
      @mikemerritt9243 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Classiccars Spain i

  • @ghost.driversuk
    @ghost.driversuk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    PS4 S FTW 👌🏼

  • @coenwag
    @coenwag 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    WoW super Nice test! Indeed the one we have been waiting for! Cheers mate keep
    Up the great test and content.

  • @bartekstaw6676
    @bartekstaw6676 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great test, but I can' t wait to see comparison test between Michelin Pilot Sport 4 and Michelin Primacy 4