the reason everyone asks for him to review Payday is because it has so many guns that you never really see in other games or media and you go and show him a deagle, mp5, ak, and c96
If you are a real firearms enthusiast then your first gun is like your firstborn child and is better since your actual firstborn child cannot shoot at intruders.
about C96 animations. for quite some time it was believed that it was impossible to have attachment-based animations due to the engine. as a leftover of the devs' attempts to make guns switch animations based on attachments, we have vertical grips as attachment options being completely unused, with the models being occasionally used on some weapons as pre-installed attachments instead. i think modding community has figured out how to do it though. this probably also applies to MP5 Kurz barrel not having a proper handguard as well. AKM indeed got a reduced rate of fire of 561 RPM according to stats. its stock is also not there by default. by default both normal and golden AKM got an underfolding stock, with this fixed stock being part of some DLC. it is available on all AKs and it doesnt differ based on the weapon, so yes, it is going to be an AK-74 stock regardless of whether it is a AK-74, AKM, Saiga-ish shotgun or 7.62 Krinkov.
It seems he's estimating the fire rate based off the audio, but the game notoriously doesn't even try to sync the audio fire rate with the actual fire rate. If you fire only 1 round on full auto mode the game still tends to make it sound like you fired 5. Also the modding community works with game scripts while the developers usually work with the game's binaries. Game scripts are intentionally designed to slow or stop execution before the binary code does if performance issues happen so that the basic gameplay features (like reloading your gun) will always work. Tying gun features to the script system increases the chance of your gun failing to work during gameplay significantly which is why the developers are limited to only what the game engine binary code is capable of. This is also why the Fallout 4 modding community's achievements in reverse engineering that game and injecting binary code into it is such an achievement.
@@nerezza5943 tbf this is payday, the game engine is held together by duck tape. Youd be right about your binary statment if this was any other game but payday, if i want dual weilded miniguns or a car9 that shoots at mock 40 i can do it in any lobby because the games is that broken
The normal wooden AKM furniture is in the game and is very good in terms of stats. Yes, it's part of a piece of DLC. But you don't just _get_ it from buying the DLC. Actually unlocking it is an ENORMOUS ordeal. One of them requires taking on the painting heist with all four people wearing full heavy armor, and completing it _in stealth_ within a strict time limit. That's _just_ for the buttstock. I never did it, and believe me, I tried. With normal attachments, you can get the AK down to minimal recoil. With the wooden furniture, it's nonexistent. Combined with the sheer firepower of the 7.62x39, and a quite reasonable ammo pool of four mags, it is a _serious_ piece of kit. As for it being available for _all_ AK variants, that was not the case the last time I played it. Full classic wooden furniture was only available on the AKM. Also, it's called duct tape, you soggy dog biscuits, and personally never had significant stability issues. In fact, it was stable enough for outright hackers to affect all four players against their will, teleporting you around the map and instakilling you at will, without crashing the game.
It's funny that Jonathan calls out the Mateba as "the anime equivalent of the Bladerunner blaster" but doesn't mention the Jericho 941's own legacy in anime - the one he handles IRL is very nearly identical (steel frame, slide safety), to Spike Spiegel's, of Cowboy Bebop.
Pretty tame payday 2 weapon customization so far. There's a lot more cursed builds than this. But I suppose that spares Jonathan a bit from the usual gun enthusiasts pain.
Considering the torture of Vanguard and Borderlands, I'd say he deserves some sanity restoration. Only to be broken by the snub-nose Minigun and Barrett 50. cal.
My favorite is the wire stock for the Single Action Army, where the character still somehow spins the gun every time they draw it, visibly smacking themselves in the face with the stock.
I'd love to see more of the Insurgency: Sandstorm guns! There's so many different weapons and the gunplay is very detailed. A detail I like is that Machine Guns have less recoil when you're laying down prone as compared to having the bipod set up on a ledge. Plus they just added the P90 and Kriss Vector since you guys did the last video on Sandstorm.
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it *looks at the long history of insurgencys development from a mod and standalone game series meant to be a more realistic take on middle eastern combat* "yea definitely bought this game for the sound design" *mods all the original sounds out for better ones* "yup definitly got this game for its sound design" i dont know a single soul who bought insurgency for its sound design and not gameplay
Having accidentally grabbed a live electrical wire once I can fully attest to what Jonathan says about electric shocks. It's like being grabbed very tightly all over your body at once.
I would really like another round of Hunt showdown weapons. With the new ones they added and the old ones they reworked because of your feedback it would be really great. My Personal Suggestion of weapons would be. Revisiting the Sparks and Mosin avtomat. The Uppercut. Berthier. Bomblance. Crossbow with shotbolts. Terminus with Custom ammo.
Is that really a thing? Did they really rework weapons because of his feedback? Because that's sick if that's true. If I was Jonathan I'd feel great about that.
@@motorcycle-man Could be or could be not, but the problem with the hammer on the Spark rifle that Johnathan mentioned was fixed shortly after the video, it could totally be coincidence~
@@motorcycle-man They discussed changes and clarified animations as a response in the last nine minutes of their developer live stream (Update 1.5.2 part 1) _Edited for specification_ (Direct links get censored)
@@TheSundayShooter Ah yeah, see, thanks man. Super excited for that for Jonathan. Developers actually taking in his feedback and going to work with it.
REALLY eager to see Killing Floor 2 on this channel. I've been asking for it for a while. I really do believe it has a great and varied selection of realistic, futuristic and down right silly weapons. It'd get a wide variety of reactions outta Johnathan. Definitely worth covering.
@@murphy7801 Stockless short barrel Thompson with Theia Magnified scope and laser/flashlight combo? But I do agree with you despite how cursed PD2 can get.
One little detail, in Payday 2 the Taser enemies do actually incapacitate you if they zap you for long enough, which you'd need an ally to get you back up after, but it's plenty of time for an ally to take out the taser cause gameplay. So it does sort of have that detail.
in absolute fairness to the game's portrayal of tasers, in my experience with Payday 2 getting tasered basically leads to you being incapacitated on the ground for quite a long time anyways.
@@darkstorm_omega Or is running with weapons that only have one or two shots in them. Like the doublebarrel, crossbow, rocket launcher, etc Source: I use the light crossbow way too often
it also sometimes happens that the tazer tazes you, gets interrupted and tazes you again(suprisingly common in large crowds) let that cycle a few times and you are out of ammo
They should do a video on Holdfast: Nations at War and check out the muskets, pistols, swords, and bayonets from the napoleonic wars. There is also the WWI dlc if they need some more guns to look at.
I'd love to see Wolfenstein: The New Order's guns get tackled by Jonathan. Alt-History WW2 guns that then get souped up in the post-war era would make an interesting discussion I'm sure.
Bit disappointing that very conventional weapons are discussed. We’ve seen these guns in some other videos already while this game has so many weird guns that not many other games have
Agreed, payday has such undercovered firearms, but we barely got anything we haven’t seen in some capacity before. Even Jonathan didn’t bother to pull out a desert eagle.
I'd like to see an episode for Far Cry 4, particularly the Elephant Gun, the automatic grenade launcher, that weird rocket launcher that fires in a parabola, and the "Buzzsaw" MG42!
Just thought I'd point out that the MP5K originally had a flush barrel until in 1991 the MP5K-PDW was produced with the folding stock and the tri-lug barrel.
Ghost in the Shell is still one of my favourite movies of my teenage days. And when I was 25 years old, I realised that THIS gun was a real one and not a real life inspired weapon like the others. Blasted me away🤣
The American flag optic is a standard optic you can put on almost any gun in the game, I remember it from when I put hundreds of hours into the game many years ago.
12:19 the rate of fire is something where they probably have to prioritize gameplay over realism as long as it is somewhat believable, otherwise everyone would just pick the same two or three guns all the time, which is already a problem even if you try to balance everything as better as possible.
Was super surprised he mentioned the Ghost in the Shell for the Mateba, but not Cowboy Bebop for the Jericho. Especially since there's a model similar to Spike's 941R in the game.
its amazing to see Jonathan continue to look at the guns of payday 2. also i have a repeat request: Sence Jonathan is a keeper of firearms and Artillery he should take a look at the weapons of BattleTech and MechWarrior 5
5:40 that long barrel configuration of the desert Eagle is real. I actually held a .357 magnum chambered version this afternoon at a gun show. With all this modifications except for the under barrel laser sight. 14” barrel, with an optic mounted on top. Seller also had the extended magazines for it. And it had a threaded barrel for a muzzle device. It also didn’t have an American flag🤣
After (finally) getting stuck into Ghost Recon Wildlands, I'd like to see JF reacting to some of that game's guns, especially the unique customised ones.
Most of the time, a bunch of attachments and decals on a gun makes Jonathan turn his nose up. I love that with the Deagle he said "its a shame there isn't a bald eagle on there somewhere" as if they didn't go far enough
Before the BS AR-15 ban in Canada, I had a 10.5" barrel'ed A1 upper with the polymer stock and a red dot mounted on the carry handle. It was a super fun setup to shoot that I partially based off Larry Vicker's Colt 723. It was close to that 733. Retro AR builds are pretty neat.
I’d love to see another COD Vanguard video, but instead of Jonathon just going over the guns, you give him a heavily modified gun and get to guess what it’s supposed to be
I went and looked up a video of the MP5 SD firing, and he wasn't kidding. It's one of the only guns I've ever seen that genuinely sounds like a silenced gun out of a movie.
Really happy to see this game finally show up on the series. I would have loved to see Jonathan talk about some of the more niche guns from modern updates but maybe, one day, we shall see a part three with the QBU-88 in it
It would be fun to see Jonathan nit-picking on weapons from Ready or Not. There aren't many weapons but they are modeled quite nicely and try to perform as they would in the real world (I hope). Or maybe revisit ArmA 3 and space out into the modding community, the RHS mods (AFRF and US) from Red Hammer Studios and NiArms Arsenal have a huge selection of firearms.
Jonathan after watching his first cursed gun build in the series: "This is outrageous, are you trying to break me?" Jonathan after watching his 134th cursed gun build in the series: "Why not, I suppose."
I really want another video about Payday 2, where you talk about weapons like: The Judge, White Streak, Arbiter, Street Sweeper, Swedish K, Heather, Contractor, Little Friend 7.62, Wasp-DS, Desert Fox etc. This video was great however, but PD2 has so many interesting weapons that deserves to be discussed in atleast one more episode.
The weapons of Foxhole could be an interesting episode - the interwar aesthetic would probably allow for a lot of references from the Royal Armoury collection. It'd also give Jonathan the chance to flex his artillery knowledge with the wealth of field guns in the game.
What a pleasant surprise to see Jonathan aware of Ghost in the Shell with Togusa being an avid user of Mateba Model 6 Revolver. But the Gamespot editor made a mistake since the anime screenshot is from GitS: Stand Alone Complex TV series (2002-2004), not the original 1995 movie.
You should show him a game called Receiver 2! He'd love it and how in-depth the firearm mechanics are, especially things like the weapon jamming and manual loading of rounds directly into the chamber if you don't have a magazine with a semi-auto pistol.
With Jonathan's comment at the end about less than lethal weapons, I think it would be cool for him to look at the weapons of Death Stranding, Given most of them are non-lethal or have non-lethal options due to the extremely high risk death carries in that universe. Plus I want Johnathan to react to the idea of a Blood Rocket Launcher made to fight invisible ghosts that you can only tell are there thanks to the baby you keep in a jar.
I saw the Mateba in payday-2 when i first downloaded it and almost choked on my water cuz I was just watching a mikeburnfire video which was a compilation of Zach's gun rants from their (heavily modded) co-op playthrough of new vegas and he was talking about the unica-6 and said the name means "you are unique" and that its famous from ghost in the shell, so seeing it in this list makes me want to rewatch that video and also go play payday
I didn't measure anything, I checked Payday 2 wiki: the "AK" weapon has rate of fire 652. But there is also a similar gun, which might have been depicted in the clip - AK.762 which has lower rate of fire 561 (also "Golden AK" seems to refer to "Golden AK.762" in the wiki pages, which also has rate of fire 561).
The reason the Helmet flew about 10ft may be because the player has a perk-deck with Helmet-popping which increases headshot damage which would also make helmets well… _pop._
Speaking on the subject of less than lethal weapons in video games, mayhaps we could be so lucky as to have Jonathan review SWAT 3 and 4? They had some beanbag shotgun and paintball pepper spray delivery, not to mention the lethal loadouts carried by the operators.
The one weapon they HAD to put in, and it's missing. I think there still is material for another video, with the CQB Thanatos, the short barrel minigun (not microgun) and the Judge shotgun, perhaps with dragon's breath shells, among others.
It's funny that the Mateba became a cyberpunk anime icon when the in-universe reason Togusa uses it is that it's both uncommon and very low-tech for the era, fitting his position as the only entirely human guy on the team.
I can't believe I just paused the video to watch heat from start to finish when he mentioned heat, and then resumed watching it like nothing's happened
My late friend who got me into Payday 2 went out of his way to create the biggest Desert Eagle he possibly could and, I think, actually outstripped this monstrosity by adding the big bulky Osprey coffin silencer to it as well. And I’m slightly disappointed to see Johnathan not cover the L85a2 in this episode but he may have covered it in the last episode.
The important part about the Tazer is that you DO lock up you can not aim properly and you can not move at ALL you can also not fire manually your fingers lock up and if you are holding an automatic it just starts spraying It is implied in the skilltrees that the Heisters went through rigorous training with Tazers to be able to remain standing when shocked rather than fall over immediatly.
I saw a comment for Sandstorm so hoping for that or Ground Branch, would be good to see how Jonathan reviews those and I think he will get a kick out of the gunsmith
here's a fun tidbit for you - the AK's fire rate in game is exactly 600 rounds per minute! it's a quirk with the way the game's audio is recorded where it's a looping sound effect rather than each shot producing its own sound with automatic weapons. semi auto weapons sound fine at higher fire rates though, but auto weapons either sound too fast or too slow for their actual ingame fire rates. There is a game modification though that forces the traditional method of per-bullet sounds being used from the single fire modes of weapons that have them, and it fixes that quirk, as well as the occasional "2 bullets fired" sound when only one leaves the mag thing that slower firing guns would get
I’ve been tased (While being trained to use the Taser). The probes went into my lower back and while the current was going through me (5 seconds is the standard shock time) my muscles did lock up and it felt like something with claws was trying to dig into my back. However once the shock was over I was for the most part fine. One of my calves tightened up pretty good and was sore the rest of the day, but no other ill effects. It didn’t even hurt getting the probes removed.
I loved the Mateba that Togusa uses in GiTS Stand Alone Complex while his team mates used a modern fictional automatic pistol, I've been fascinated with it ever since so when Battlefield 4 had a version I constantly used that
The Mateba in the video isn't actually the Sei Unica, it's the 2006M, which is a traditional double-action revolver, though of course it still has the swing up cylinder and a 6 o'clock barrel. Togusa's revolver in Ghost in the Shell is a mix of the 2006M and the Sei Unica. It's less well-known than the famous Sei Unica though, so I guess even Mr. Ferguson can slip up when it comes to obscure Italian revolvers.
@@wombatgirl997 the cerebral bore is a weapon from Turok, but Perfect Dark admittedly has a couple of weird ones of its own. Notably a laptop that transforms into a gun, and a rifle that doubles as a proximity mine.
Love this series and the collabs with Jonathan but I'd love to see a camera upgrade at some point. My Patreon outgoings are at capacity but I hope others might step up.
About 4:30 apparently the disel (pd2's game Engine) can not handle different animations for modified weapons and stock one's so that's is why detachable magazine reloads with stripper clip and is held like normal pistol not the artillery/carbine variant
I am willing to put in a suggestion for Survarium, a game facing a shutdown in May. It has some interesting weapons that would be fun to see on video, like the Neostead, the Fort-17, SKS with its interesting reload and the customization of the AK rifles with being able to slap a red dot onto the handguard. Plus, it has great firing sounds as the Devs recorded real rifearms at a range.
Ammunition counter goes from 47 to 30 in just under 2 seconds when shooting at that helicopter, and going frame by frame I counted 30 frames per second and 3 frames per shot, so that is 600 rpm on that gold AK. I suspect the audio's having trouble keeping up, making it sound slower. It sounded like the L4D2 AK, which really is too slow.
There's always been an interesting debate with how the unica 6's cylinder flicked out, but im glad it comes a full 180 degrees up like it does in the game. It adds something to styling upon cops in that game.
the reason everyone asks for him to review Payday is because it has so many guns that you never really see in other games or media and you go and show him a deagle, mp5, ak, and c96
He covered a lot more weirder guns in a previous Payday video
@@asthmaticfish they were still too normal, when he couldve covered really wacky stuff like the mk.1, the Vulcan, and the M95
Almost every game has a Jericho 941 in its inventory these days 🫥
@@lsdm629 I’m surprised they did not do an episode that focused on the gunsmith part of the game.
I love y'all's thumbnails, because in each one of them Jonathan is holding a gun like a proud dad holding his firstborn child
A little blurry but it adds to the charm
His first shots, so cute, they reload so fast
Hey a another fellow southern. Watching from GA.
If you are a real firearms enthusiast then your first gun is like your firstborn child and is better since your actual firstborn child cannot shoot at intruders.
The accuracy of this statement has tickled me pleasantly.
Thank you, good sir
I mean, Jonathan has got the gloves right...
And he has a lot of weapons around him...
I think he's good to go
GUYS, THE FERGUSON! GO GET HIM!
Imagine, he replaces one of the gun dealers-
@@mercenarygundam1487 I can do the line from payday
Bro, he should be Gage in Payday 3
What would his mask be?
Should've let himm seen the Barrett .50 cal with the shortened barrel, pistol grip, x18 scope and rounded stock.
but the M82A2 isn't in the game
I was hoping he'd cover the Thanatos.... we can only hope
@@austinparker5053 he already covered that gun in the Bad Company 2 video
@@harveyknguyen M95 is.
@@ToriusHeart yeah and that was already covered in the BFBC2 video
and he's talking about the M82A2
about C96 animations. for quite some time it was believed that it was impossible to have attachment-based animations due to the engine. as a leftover of the devs' attempts to make guns switch animations based on attachments, we have vertical grips as attachment options being completely unused, with the models being occasionally used on some weapons as pre-installed attachments instead. i think modding community has figured out how to do it though.
this probably also applies to MP5 Kurz barrel not having a proper handguard as well.
AKM indeed got a reduced rate of fire of 561 RPM according to stats. its stock is also not there by default. by default both normal and golden AKM got an underfolding stock, with this fixed stock being part of some DLC. it is available on all AKs and it doesnt differ based on the weapon, so yes, it is going to be an AK-74 stock regardless of whether it is a AK-74, AKM, Saiga-ish shotgun or 7.62 Krinkov.
It seems he's estimating the fire rate based off the audio, but the game notoriously doesn't even try to sync the audio fire rate with the actual fire rate. If you fire only 1 round on full auto mode the game still tends to make it sound like you fired 5.
Also the modding community works with game scripts while the developers usually work with the game's binaries. Game scripts are intentionally designed to slow or stop execution before the binary code does if performance issues happen so that the basic gameplay features (like reloading your gun) will always work. Tying gun features to the script system increases the chance of your gun failing to work during gameplay significantly which is why the developers are limited to only what the game engine binary code is capable of.
This is also why the Fallout 4 modding community's achievements in reverse engineering that game and injecting binary code into it is such an achievement.
And guess what, attachment animations ARE possible
Ofc attachment-based animations are possible… its just a matter of wanting to put in the effort.
@@nerezza5943 tbf this is payday, the game engine is held together by duck tape. Youd be right about your binary statment if this was any other game but payday, if i want dual weilded miniguns or a car9 that shoots at mock 40 i can do it in any lobby because the games is that broken
The normal wooden AKM furniture is in the game and is very good in terms of stats. Yes, it's part of a piece of DLC. But you don't just _get_ it from buying the DLC. Actually unlocking it is an ENORMOUS ordeal. One of them requires taking on the painting heist with all four people wearing full heavy armor, and completing it _in stealth_ within a strict time limit. That's _just_ for the buttstock. I never did it, and believe me, I tried.
With normal attachments, you can get the AK down to minimal recoil. With the wooden furniture, it's nonexistent. Combined with the sheer firepower of the 7.62x39, and a quite reasonable ammo pool of four mags, it is a _serious_ piece of kit.
As for it being available for _all_ AK variants, that was not the case the last time I played it. Full classic wooden furniture was only available on the AKM.
Also, it's called duct tape, you soggy dog biscuits, and personally never had significant stability issues. In fact, it was stable enough for outright hackers to affect all four players against their will, teleporting you around the map and instakilling you at will, without crashing the game.
It's funny that Jonathan calls out the Mateba as "the anime equivalent of the Bladerunner blaster" but doesn't mention the Jericho 941's own legacy in anime - the one he handles IRL is very nearly identical (steel frame, slide safety), to Spike Spiegel's, of Cowboy Bebop.
Cowboy Bebop is the only reason I want a 941.
Some of the customization parts in game are the Spike Grip and the Spike kit. They make it look more like the one from Bebop.
Pretty tame payday 2 weapon customization so far. There's a lot more cursed builds than this. But I suppose that spares Jonathan a bit from the usual gun enthusiasts pain.
Considering the torture of Vanguard and Borderlands, I'd say he deserves some sanity restoration. Only to be broken by the snub-nose Minigun and Barrett 50. cal.
My favorite is the wire stock for the Single Action Army, where the character still somehow spins the gun every time they draw it, visibly smacking themselves in the face with the stock.
Like putting an 18x scope on a shotgun with Dragon's Breath rounds, or the dual-wielding Grimm's
I'd love to see more of the Insurgency: Sandstorm guns! There's so many different weapons and the gunplay is very detailed. A detail I like is that Machine Guns have less recoil when you're laying down prone as compared to having the bipod set up on a ledge. Plus they just added the P90 and Kriss Vector since you guys did the last video on Sandstorm.
the big selling point is sound design.
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it man, Sandstorm sounds crisper than a fresh bag of chips.
Yes
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it *looks at the long history of insurgencys development from a mod and standalone game series meant to be a more realistic take on middle eastern combat* "yea definitely bought this game for the sound design" *mods all the original sounds out for better ones* "yup definitly got this game for its sound design" i dont know a single soul who bought insurgency for its sound design and not gameplay
I would love Mr. Ferguson to react to some of Planetside 2's guns. The Gen 2/Gen 3 guns are of particular interest, I'm sure!
That would be pretty cool, and Planetside can always use some more love
Jonathan: The D-eagle is the most American gun...
M134: *angry brrrrrrrt sounds *
Having accidentally grabbed a live electrical wire once I can fully attest to what Jonathan says about electric shocks. It's like being grabbed very tightly all over your body at once.
I would really like another round of Hunt showdown weapons.
With the new ones they added and the old ones they reworked because of your feedback it would be really great.
My Personal Suggestion of weapons would be.
Revisiting the Sparks and Mosin avtomat. The Uppercut. Berthier. Bomblance. Crossbow with shotbolts. Terminus with Custom ammo.
would be awesome
Is that really a thing? Did they really rework weapons because of his feedback? Because that's sick if that's true. If I was Jonathan I'd feel great about that.
@@motorcycle-man Could be or could be not, but the problem with the hammer on the Spark rifle that Johnathan mentioned was fixed shortly after the video, it could totally be coincidence~
@@motorcycle-man They discussed changes and clarified animations as a response in the last nine minutes of their developer live stream (Update 1.5.2 part 1)
_Edited for specification_
(Direct links get censored)
@@TheSundayShooter Ah yeah, see, thanks man. Super excited for that for Jonathan. Developers actually taking in his feedback and going to work with it.
REALLY eager to see Killing Floor 2 on this channel. I've been asking for it for a while. I really do believe it has a great and varied selection of realistic, futuristic and down right silly weapons. It'd get a wide variety of reactions outta Johnathan. Definitely worth covering.
I second this
I third this.
Killing floor sounds are amazingv
Glad to see some people share my vision
We really need his opinions about AF2011-A1 because I have yet to see an instance of a double barrel pistol being dual wielded so far in this series
Vanguard weapons customization: cursed
Payday 2 weapons: getting away with it 😁
That's because some payday 2s crazy weapon nods are real.
Plus easter eggs like "Star wars blaster" mods for C96 and Sterling
@@murphy7801 Stockless short barrel Thompson with Theia Magnified scope and laser/flashlight combo? But I do agree with you despite how cursed PD2 can get.
@@plushiepenguin I mean im pretty sure the Thomson stock is removable irl
Mall Ninja P90 attachment anyone?
On a discord I'm on someone said Jonathan is everyone's Internet uncle
Well, if Ian is the Gun Jesus, ill say... why not
One little detail, in Payday 2 the Taser enemies do actually incapacitate you if they zap you for long enough, which you'd need an ally to get you back up after, but it's plenty of time for an ally to take out the taser cause gameplay. So it does sort of have that detail.
gotta love how hes wearing the same gloves as the payday characters
Actually, I believe that is the Mateba 2600M not the “Autorevolver” 6 Unica. The 2600M is a classic double action.
mateba 2006m* but yes you're correct
Interestingly he was right about it being in Ghost in the Shell, as that's a "2008M" a fictional slightly updated 2006M and not a Unica
@@DeadFishTheKing the fake name the game uses for it is even based on the mistranslation of its name from the first Ghost in the Shell movie.
Yes. 100 % Correct
in absolute fairness to the game's portrayal of tasers, in my experience with Payday 2 getting tasered basically leads to you being incapacitated on the ground for quite a long time anyways.
I take it you end up with people who aren't team players a lot, huh?
@@JohnPeacekeeper Chances are, he also somehow can't hit the Taser that's stunning him on top of having selfish teammates.
@@darkstorm_omega Or is running with weapons that only have one or two shots in them. Like the doublebarrel, crossbow, rocket launcher, etc
Source: I use the light crossbow way too often
@@darkstorm_omega eh, sometimes the RNG gods hate you and the bullet spread makes every round in your LMG miss. This has happened to me.
it also sometimes happens that the tazer tazes you, gets interrupted and tazes you again(suprisingly common in large crowds)
let that cycle a few times and you are out of ammo
They should do a video on Holdfast: Nations at War and check out the muskets, pistols, swords, and bayonets from the napoleonic wars. There is also the WWI dlc if they need some more guns to look at.
It's nice to see SOMEONE mentioning Ghost in the Shell when talking about the Mateba. That movie made me love that gun, it's just cool!
I'd love to see Wolfenstein: The New Order's guns get tackled by Jonathan. Alt-History WW2 guns that then get souped up in the post-war era would make an interesting discussion I'm sure.
Bit disappointing that very conventional weapons are discussed. We’ve seen these guns in some other videos already while this game has so many weird guns that not many other games have
Maybe they covered some in the first part🤔
Given the sheer number of firearms in the game, pretty sure they'd have enough content for 5 more videos haha.
@@Crazyasian123456 Gonna beat Tarkov in the number of videos
Agreed, payday has such undercovered firearms, but we barely got anything we haven’t seen in some capacity before. Even Jonathan didn’t bother to pull out a desert eagle.
@@DrOctagonaduck2 Yeah, we need to see him suffer with the CQB Thanatos.
I'd like to see an episode for Far Cry 4, particularly the Elephant Gun, the automatic grenade launcher, that weird rocket launcher that fires in a parabola, and the "Buzzsaw" MG42!
I really hope to see a Part 3, i really love this game and i want to see Jonathan talk more about the guns of Payday 2
Just thought I'd point out that the MP5K originally had a flush barrel until in 1991 the MP5K-PDW was produced with the folding stock and the tri-lug barrel.
I’d love to see Zombie Army 4! The realistic WW2 armory with the wacky attachments you can put on them would be great to confuse our poor boy.
Ghost in the Shell is still one of my favourite movies of my teenage days. And when I was 25 years old, I realised that THIS gun was a real one and not a real life inspired weapon like the others. Blasted me away🤣
The American flag optic is a standard optic you can put on almost any gun in the game, I remember it from when I put hundreds of hours into the game many years ago.
12:19 the rate of fire is something where they probably have to prioritize gameplay over realism as long as it is somewhat believable, otherwise everyone would just pick the same two or three guns all the time, which is already a problem even if you try to balance everything as better as possible.
Yep. Games are primarily balancing acts. Much like why they usually get silencers wrong is because it must be balanced.
Was super surprised he mentioned the Ghost in the Shell for the Mateba, but not Cowboy Bebop for the Jericho. Especially since there's a model similar to Spike's 941R in the game.
its amazing to see Jonathan continue to look at the guns of payday 2. also i have a repeat request: Sence Jonathan is a keeper of firearms and Artillery he should take a look at the weapons of BattleTech and MechWarrior 5
"this is johnathan ferguson, the only thing keeping our channel alive"
wow, the first time i’ve seen a suppressed weapon in a game be “too loud”
Honestly would love to see more of Payday's more exotic or rarely-represented guns reviewed! Especially the stuff from the newest Smuggler Pack DLC!
5:40 that long barrel configuration of the desert Eagle is real. I actually held a .357 magnum chambered version this afternoon at a gun show. With all this modifications except for the under barrel laser sight. 14” barrel, with an optic mounted on top. Seller also had the extended magazines for it. And it had a threaded barrel for a muzzle device.
It also didn’t have an American flag🤣
He should react to even MORE payday 2 guns.
After (finally) getting stuck into Ghost Recon Wildlands, I'd like to see JF reacting to some of that game's guns, especially the unique customised ones.
Always appreciate Jonathan's candor and exactness when talking about the weapons depicted, not just in the technical, but also the ethical sense.
Anybody remember the taser is Syphon Filter? You could keep zapping enemies till they burst into flames
Infinite ammo in the PS1 original, as well.
Most of the time, a bunch of attachments and decals on a gun makes Jonathan turn his nose up. I love that with the Deagle he said "its a shame there isn't a bald eagle on there somewhere" as if they didn't go far enough
Before the BS AR-15 ban in Canada, I had a 10.5" barrel'ed A1 upper with the polymer stock and a red dot mounted on the carry handle. It was a super fun setup to shoot that I partially based off Larry Vicker's Colt 723. It was close to that 733. Retro AR builds are pretty neat.
I wish it gets repealed, I’d like to get a SA20 for a remake of the C7A2
Should’ve used it instead of giving in…
The short barrel Colt m733 looks so cool with a carry handle mounted acog.
The standard mp5 in payday2 sounds beautiful.
I’d love to see another COD Vanguard video, but instead of Jonathon just going over the guns, you give him a heavily modified gun and get to guess what it’s supposed to be
Or even better: let Jonathon cursify a gun himself.
@@NorthEevee god that would be awesome
lets not give this dude a heart attack XD
I went and looked up a video of the MP5 SD firing, and he wasn't kidding. It's one of the only guns I've ever seen that genuinely sounds like a silenced gun out of a movie.
Really happy to see this game finally show up on the series. I would have loved to see Jonathan talk about some of the more niche guns from modern updates but maybe, one day, we shall see a part three with the QBU-88 in it
The shootout in Heat is still the best to this day.
It would be fun to see Jonathan nit-picking on weapons from Ready or Not. There aren't many weapons but they are modeled quite nicely and try to perform as they would in the real world (I hope).
Or maybe revisit ArmA 3 and space out into the modding community, the RHS mods (AFRF and US) from Red Hammer Studios and NiArms Arsenal have a huge selection of firearms.
Jonathan after watching his first cursed gun build in the series: "This is outrageous, are you trying to break me?"
Jonathan after watching his 134th cursed gun build in the series: "Why not, I suppose."
Fun fact, the ford mondeo that Jonathan claims he owns in the video is also known as the Ford Fusion here in the U.S.
I really want another video about Payday 2, where you talk about weapons like: The Judge, White Streak, Arbiter, Street Sweeper, Swedish K, Heather, Contractor, Little Friend 7.62, Wasp-DS, Desert Fox etc. This video was great however, but PD2 has so many interesting weapons that deserves to be discussed in atleast one more episode.
Back in the hobby room I see.
The weapons of Foxhole could be an interesting episode - the interwar aesthetic would probably allow for a lot of references from the Royal Armoury collection. It'd also give Jonathan the chance to flex his artillery knowledge with the wealth of field guns in the game.
The built-in cinematic camera might help for collecting footage, actually.
What a pleasant surprise to see Jonathan aware of Ghost in the Shell with Togusa being an avid user of Mateba Model 6 Revolver. But the Gamespot editor made a mistake since the anime screenshot is from GitS: Stand Alone Complex TV series (2002-2004), not the original 1995 movie.
Togusa is from stand alone complex
@@arandomaccount2242 Togusa did appear in 1995 movie too.
Do Ground Branch next :) Good weapon Modelling in that.
You should show him a game called Receiver 2!
He'd love it and how in-depth the firearm mechanics are, especially things like the weapon jamming and manual loading of rounds directly into the chamber if you don't have a magazine with a semi-auto pistol.
the ak from payday 2 supposedly has a rate of fire of 560 which is a little slower so yes jonathan you are correct
Glad to the a Ghosy in the Shell mention, and I definitely love that Colt M733
the "baby eagle l" pistol in game shows a frame mounted safety, and some other features that look much more indicitive of an armscor MAPP 1
I love the Jericho 941. Fun fact, outside of Payday 2, the Jericho was the gun used by Spike Spiegel in Cowboy Bebop!
With Jonathan's comment at the end about less than lethal weapons, I think it would be cool for him to look at the weapons of Death Stranding, Given most of them are non-lethal or have non-lethal options due to the extremely high risk death carries in that universe. Plus I want Johnathan to react to the idea of a Blood Rocket Launcher made to fight invisible ghosts that you can only tell are there thanks to the baby you keep in a jar.
I saw the Mateba in payday-2 when i first downloaded it and almost choked on my water cuz I was just watching a mikeburnfire video which was a compilation of Zach's gun rants from their (heavily modded) co-op playthrough of new vegas and he was talking about the unica-6 and said the name means "you are unique" and that its famous from ghost in the shell, so seeing it in this list makes me want to rewatch that video and also go play payday
Love the way Jonathan breaks it down in such a digestible way. Bravo
I didn't measure anything, I checked Payday 2 wiki: the "AK" weapon has rate of fire 652. But there is also a similar gun, which might have been depicted in the clip - AK.762 which has lower rate of fire 561 (also "Golden AK" seems to refer to "Golden AK.762" in the wiki pages, which also has rate of fire 561).
ye, the golden ak is the slower firing .762 variant
the .762 variants are based of the AKM, the regular AK im pretty sure is a 74
The reason the Helmet flew about 10ft may be because the player has a perk-deck with Helmet-popping which increases headshot damage which would also make helmets well… _pop._
Speaking on the subject of less than lethal weapons in video games, mayhaps we could be so lucky as to have Jonathan review SWAT 3 and 4?
They had some beanbag shotgun and paintball pepper spray delivery, not to mention the lethal loadouts carried by the operators.
Give me a whisky and a cigar, and I’ll listen to Jonathan talk about guns all night long. That man knows details within details. What a mind.
Jonathan Ferguson is such a lad
U could have a genuine laugh with him
MP5SD with the integrated suppressor will always be my favorite version of that gun, and my favorite looking submachine gun
Stiiill missing out on the Thanatos .50 Cal with its CQB Barrel.
The one weapon they HAD to put in, and it's missing. I think there still is material for another video, with the CQB Thanatos, the short barrel minigun (not microgun) and the Judge shotgun, perhaps with dragon's breath shells, among others.
It's funny that the Mateba became a cyberpunk anime icon when the in-universe reason Togusa uses it is that it's both uncommon and very low-tech for the era, fitting his position as the only entirely human guy on the team.
I can't believe I just paused the video to watch heat from start to finish when he mentioned heat, and then resumed watching it like nothing's happened
My late friend who got me into Payday 2 went out of his way to create the biggest Desert Eagle he possibly could and, I think, actually outstripped this monstrosity by adding the big bulky Osprey coffin silencer to it as well.
And I’m slightly disappointed to see Johnathan not cover the L85a2 in this episode but he may have covered it in the last episode.
i absolutely love the look of an AR with an 11” barrel, beautiful
Love how John looks like he's really enjoying himself on the very first shot.
I love this series and Jonathan. Haven't missed an episode and subscribed to Royal Arms & Armory
The important part about the Tazer is that you DO lock up
you can not aim properly and you can not move at ALL
you can also not fire manually
your fingers lock up and if you are holding an automatic it just starts spraying
It is implied in the skilltrees that the Heisters went through rigorous training with Tazers to be able to remain standing when shocked rather than fall over immediatly.
I'd like to see some of the new tactical shooters coming out, like Ground Branch and Ready or Not
Ayyy, was waiting for more of this!
this just gave me the hope that he will someday at the weapons from bf hardline
the foregrip on the mauser looks very nice actually. that's a tasteful addition.
You think the gold ak is wierd, well, the brother's grimm 12g is wierd squared. They're dual-wield bullpup auto shotguns.
or as I like to call it, the shoulder destroyer
theyre a real thing, the cbrps spike x1s bullpup conversion for a saiga
@@yapflipthegrunt4687 yeah, I know they exist, but dual-wielding those seems like a terrible idea.
@@royearle1673 It does, I thought you were talking about the guns themselves.
I saw a comment for Sandstorm so hoping for that or Ground Branch, would be good to see how Jonathan reviews those and I think he will get a kick out of the gunsmith
here's a fun tidbit for you - the AK's fire rate in game is exactly 600 rounds per minute!
it's a quirk with the way the game's audio is recorded where it's a looping sound effect rather than each shot producing its own sound with automatic weapons. semi auto weapons sound fine at higher fire rates though, but auto weapons either sound too fast or too slow for their actual ingame fire rates.
There is a game modification though that forces the traditional method of per-bullet sounds being used from the single fire modes of weapons that have them, and it fixes that quirk, as well as the occasional "2 bullets fired" sound when only one leaves the mag thing that slower firing guns would get
I’ve been tased (While being trained to use the Taser). The probes went into my lower back and while the current was going through me (5 seconds is the standard shock time) my muscles did lock up and it felt like something with claws was trying to dig into my back. However once the shock was over I was for the most part fine. One of my calves tightened up pretty good and was sore the rest of the day, but no other ill effects. It didn’t even hurt getting the probes removed.
I loved the Mateba that Togusa uses in GiTS Stand Alone Complex while his team mates used a modern fictional automatic pistol, I've been fascinated with it ever since so when Battlefield 4 had a version I constantly used that
The Mateba in the video isn't actually the Sei Unica, it's the 2006M, which is a traditional double-action revolver, though of course it still has the swing up cylinder and a 6 o'clock barrel. Togusa's revolver in Ghost in the Shell is a mix of the 2006M and the Sei Unica. It's less well-known than the famous Sei Unica though, so I guess even Mr. Ferguson can slip up when it comes to obscure Italian revolvers.
I'd love to see Jonathan's take on the guns from Perfect Dark, and FEAR.
@@wombatgirl997 Haha, nice!
@@wombatgirl997 the cerebral bore is a weapon from Turok, but Perfect Dark admittedly has a couple of weird ones of its own. Notably a laptop that transforms into a gun, and a rifle that doubles as a proximity mine.
Gotta love that he's wearing a C&Rsenal "Cycle of Violence" shirt lol
The M16A2 Model 733 Carbine Colt Commando is being used in El Salvador, Guatemala and Ecuador.
this makes me want a video where Jonathan is just unleashed on the weapon editor to see how cursed some of the weapons get
Love this series and the collabs with Jonathan but I'd love to see a camera upgrade at some point. My Patreon outgoings are at capacity but I hope others might step up.
A bit disappointed he didn't comment on the "CARRYING: GOAT" in the UI.
I guess this is how Jonathan cleans his palate after being overloaded by the guns of Borderlands 3 :-D
About 4:30 apparently the disel (pd2's game Engine) can not handle different animations for modified weapons and stock one's so that's is why detachable magazine reloads with stripper clip and is held like normal pistol not the artillery/carbine variant
Johnathan looks so happy in the thumbnail.
Something cool about the ak model rifles is that all the tools to service the rifle are on itself
I am willing to put in a suggestion for Survarium, a game facing a shutdown in May. It has some interesting weapons that would be fun to see on video, like the Neostead, the Fort-17, SKS with its interesting reload and the customization of the AK rifles with being able to slap a red dot onto the handguard. Plus, it has great firing sounds as the Devs recorded real rifearms at a range.
Ammunition counter goes from 47 to 30 in just under 2 seconds when shooting at that helicopter, and going frame by frame I counted 30 frames per second and 3 frames per shot, so that is 600 rpm on that gold AK. I suspect the audio's having trouble keeping up, making it sound slower. It sounded like the L4D2 AK, which really is too slow.
There's always been an interesting debate with how the unica 6's cylinder flicked out, but im glad it comes a full 180 degrees up like it does in the game. It adds something to styling upon cops in that game.