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- Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries, rates a variety of M16s, M4s, and AR-15s in games, including Escape From Tarkov, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, Battlefield 3, and Fallout: New Vegas.
00:00 - Opening
00:34 - M4A1-S (COUNTER-STRIKE: GLOBAL OFFENSIVE)
02:49 - M4A4 (COUNTER-STRIKE: GLOBAL OFFENSIVE)
05:20 - M16 (BLACK)
07:42 - M16A4 (CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE)
09:29 - Service Rifle (FALLOUT: NEW VEGAS)
11:49 - Assault Carbine (FALLOUT: NEW VEGAS)
13:18 - M16A1 (RISING STORM 2: VIETNAM)
15:44 - AR16 (FAR CRY 2)
18:13 - M4A1 (ESCAPE FROM TARKOV)
19:54 - M16A3 (BATTLEFIELD 3)
21:12 - Khvostov 7G-02 (DESTINY 2)
22:59 - AMR-16 (PAYDAY 2)
24:50 - AR33 (GOLDENEYE 007)
In the latest video in the Firearm Expert Reacts series, Jonathan Ferguson--a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries-- rates a variety of M16s, M4s, and AR-15s in games and compares them to their real-life counterparts.
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the fallout lore includes the fact that the world has basically run out of patroleum. I always assumed that's why the AR had wood furniture. Limited resources.
Oil not ptroleum actually.
There's plenty of other metal works and gun munfuctaring going on (i.e. the Gun Runners), I think the point is that the Service Rifle is made by the NCR, who's infamously stretched thin and probably trying to crank out the cheapest AR possible hence the wood and stamped metal
IIRC there's even a terminal entry or something like that referencing the fact they found old pre war ARs and replaced the polymer etc. with the wood parts.
The terrifying moment when you realize that all the Red Rocket stations don't sell you new radioactive fuel.
They sell you more COOLANT for the nuclear reactor in your car.
You really, really don't want to run out of "gas" in Fallout. (Fallout 3+, anyway. I think there was a gasoline car in the old Fallouts?)
@@SnowTheKitsuneah bro, youre gonna loose it when i tell you what petroleum is made of
I just thought it was for aesthetics. The rangers were always about old fashioned revolvers and repeaters, figured they didn't want infantry to have fancier stuff.
The idea of a thematic rather than a game roster is a great way to diversify the serie ! Hope to see more of them !
Glad you enjoyed!
The battlefield 3 detail he mentions is a testament to how much the studio had of time and care for their games back then. Its not a neccesary thing but because it was a big studio they could do it.
i think it's also because BF developers were working really close with the US army so probably some nerd in there complained the AR he loves so much didn't look realistic enough
Andy Mcnab was a consultant.
@@trasker6744 Haha, nerd, that's about it
Jonathans recoil comment about tarkov is correct. It has pretty much been confirmed that the way recoil has been modelled in tarkov is as if you were holding a pistol. This wasn't all that noticeable when the recoil was relatively low (and imo more realistic) in the past but as an easy balancing solution developers have slowly increased recoil over the years to combat 0 recoil laser meta builds. This in turn caused stock and lightly modified guns to have this over the top recoil with almost unusable ironsights. Luckily a recoil rework was promised in the roadmap this year so hopefully this will be fixed.
doubt it.
@@TheKillboy1000 Soon™
All the weapon recoil in Tarkov looks soooooo odd
@@hoppinggnomethe4154 I like it personally, except for the obviously unusable high recoil guns. I do think they could improve it though
@@RedBHuebi no I doubt it'd be any better lol
When I went into Marine Corps bootcamp in 1977 we were told to download all magazines by two rounds.
it's funny Jonathan should say that the tarkov M4 feels like it's pivoting off the wrist. Because due to a flaw in the way recoil works in the game that's exactly what's happening.
I really want to see Jonathan break down the guns from The Order 1886
One day man, one day.
Agree!
I commented this like 10th times already I gave up.
Johnathan's video would be longer than the game.
I'm here to stand with this man, give him what he wants!
Absolutely insane that Jonathan saw that PD2's M16 was a little too thick and then took that to theorize that it might be based on an airsoft replica. Man is the real deal
To be fair, it is a well known fact that Payday 2 weapons are modelled after airsoft guns. Both IMFDB and the Payday Wiki have documented this.
Should've done the scene from MGS4 where Snake gets the M4 and checks its functioning (I'd also love to see an MGS3 episode, particularly Snake's extensive breakdown of his M1911 (and also Ocelot's weird detachable revolver stock thing)).
Something to point out, Fallout does not take place in an alternate 1950s, it takes place in an alternate 2200-2300s post apocalyptic world, where the apocalypse happened in 2077. The 1950s stylings is because various modern, efficient technology, such as the micro chip and transistor, never got invented, which meant 1950s styled stuff never stopped being in style. The wood furniture on the service rifle is, apparently, because the Service rifle is a post apocalypse built rifle built for the NCR, and polymer is near impossible to come by in the wasteland, and is not to be wasted on trivial stuff like handguards.
That's how I understand it anyway.
Surprised the M16 from Battlefield: Bad Company was not thrown into the mix.
Same
That Ghost shirt he's wearing is unfathomably based
The CS:GO M4A1-S is clearly using a C7 style upper, which were developed for the Canadian military's C7 rifle. Those were common before the M4 adoption and were never part of the M4 series except in very early models. Black Hawk Down era forces used rifles with C7 uppers. The correct Colt catalog number for what they would call the M4A1-S is the Colt 723.
I like this format! Seems like it could easily lend itself to episodes for AK, MP5, Deagle, M1911, etc
Let me suggest ArmA 3: SOG Prairie Fire again! ASide from the unique SOG weapons, there's a certain Australian SASR modded L1A1 I'd really like to see Jonathan talking about...
@@North_Dumpling Rising Storm 2 is great. Prairie Fire has a niche in Vietnam-era special forces and unique toys rarely seen outside of it. For Australia, It has both of those, the Owen and the F1, but also the integrally suppressed L34A1, including one with an XM148 GL (also in L1A1s), and especially the one I mentioned above... the infamous SASR full auto shorty L1A1, with a very special nickname.
this
Do you have a dedi server or know how to host?
11:07 i actually put wood furniture on my A2 clone and it’s a massive head turner
I was hoping to see the ADAR from Escape From Tarkov once Jonathan brought up an AR with wooden furniture
Technically it falls into what Jonathan called "boutique gucci thing" since the pricepoint of an ADAR 2-15 was ₽126k, which at the time was around $2k (the conversion now would be more like $1200).
We covered it in one of the many Tarkov episodes we've done in the past if you want to see his thoughts!
I was hoping he'd mention the Dutch made AR-10's (I know not AR-15 but still) because those were manufactured with the intent of military service with wooden furniture.
Jonathan should do SAO Fatal Bullet and COD Advanced Warfare
For me, the M16 from Battlefield 3 has the most satisfying firing sound and the overall feel is just perfect to play with.
Even as an avid airsofter, Jonathan just taught me something new. I double-checked it for myself and I'm shook. On the topic of obscure AR's, I'd love to see a reaction to APB Reloaded's guns.
Didn't know it either, but it doesn't surprise me all that much, gearboxes can be pretty chonky
If you compare the pistol grip on an AEG M4 with a GBBR M4 you can feel the difference really easily! GBBR ones are true to size because they have similar working parts.
@@Lozart I unfortunately don't have either of those (I'm more of a bullpup guy, gives some variety on the field in the middle of all those AR15) but I'll check it out if I see someone with a GBBR on the field one day
An idea for a vid could be Jonathan reacting to the guns of the Army of Two series, the games in the AOT series are all over the place with their models.
I like this format as an addition to the series. Good idea!
This man, Jonathan, is what’s keeping this channel afloat. I subscribed because of him. Jonathan also deserves a raise
Perfect Dark on the N64 does in fact reference to Goldeneye (James Bond) N64 game. By having the said weapon in the game (which you have to complete challenges at the HQ).
The thingy at the base of the buffer tube on Payday's AMR-16 is not any folding magic. It is a qd sling swivel attachment point.
more of this style of video please
Absolutely love these compilations with the main man Ferguson.
As an FMF Corpsman, I carried an M4 in Iraq. I loved that little rifle! Lightweight, handy, & accurate. If I ever have to face combat again, I wouldn't want any other rifle.
Now, to be fair, you need to do the Kalashnikov rifles
I would like to see Jonathan reacting to the guns of Warframe
Wish they would of had the Boss’s patriot from MGS3.
Maybe they didn't want to break Jonathan's brain in this episode.
Love the Ghost shirt
Great video
Random memory based on the XM16E1 mention around 15:00. In the early 2000s I was doing Army training and somebody I knew was issued a rifle with a lower marked "XM16E1" that had been crossed out and "M16A2" stamped next to it. The rifle was still being used with live ammunition for target shooting.
Would be interesting to see SPAS 12, Desert Eagle and MP5 game comparisons
You guys should do an episode about the Arma 3 DLC "SOG Prairie Fire". It's Vietnam-themed and has a load of unusual and rarely seen weapons in it.
IIRC in the Rising Storm 2 multiplayer campaign the US/ARVN side starts with m14s, and as it progresses you get M16s, with officers and some other classes getting XM16E1s before late game gives proper M16A1s
Cool content idea, love it
Still hope we see MGS4 some day. They did great with their guns for the age of the game.
The AR-16 suffers from a bit of that late 2000's 'greeble' designs and left-hand-eject which opted for style over realism. However there are a few real world parts we can identify from it: The Taiwan production M16 (T91) has a similar foreend design, but the front sight looks like something one would see on a Sig550. It has a Milkor MGL red dot sight, a carry handle borrowed from a FN Minimi (M249) (the Colt LMG variant had a carry handle but not in that style), and lastly the receiver resembles the Rock River Arms EOP (Elevated Optics Platform).
I like these deep dives, it’s good to see comparisons across games. For fun at some point, it would be cool to put Johnathon on the spot and not only rate, but RANK the various weapons.
-S suffix for CS:GO (CS2)'s M4A1-S is a nod to the original apperance in prior CS games, last one being Source. Same for USP-S.
I have an Armalite M-15A4 (Fifteen), a model that is still in production today (with some evolution upgrades since original introduction).
I don't know if you guys can edit already uploaded videos, but the Payday 2 segment doesn't show the AMR-16 (which is based on the M16A1, IIRC).
Instead it shows the AMCAR rifle (which, as Jonathan pointed out, is indeed based on the Colt Model 733).
Nope
@@houseofchinn6112 Nope what? Which part of what I said is wrong?
@@ylyxa can't edit
Please do Cruelty Squad, it's got so many lesser known and prototype weapons in the game. Would be incredible to learn about them.
I love BLACK it's such a great game! one of my all-time favorites. I still play it to this day.
people are so obsessed with guns in such minute detail, it's wild.
0:00 when you flex your AR to your friends
I would love to see Jonathan react to Mothergunship. You can make some absolutely bonkers guns in that game. It would also be fun to see his reaction to stuff like reverse recoil, bouncy bullets and anti-gravity. You can also place stuff in front of the barrel and the shot travels through the object, somehow. Later game also gets interesting when you start to mount stuff like rocket engines to your gun. One cap have a chance to 50% refill energy on empty and another cap pulls half of it's energy from the other gun.
- Kya (& Zara co-con)
Having played A LOT of destiny 2, it very much does differ from the real life gun but i think it's because there's a standard reload animation for auto rifles (that class of weapon in the game) and that reload doesn't follow the irl way that gun would be cocked. Some guns have unique reload animations (mostly exotics) but since the khvostov is The Starter Gun (literally the first one you get) they didn't give it unique animations. It's coming back with an exotic version soon so maybe they'll fix it there which would be cool, who knows.
Yeah, it is a common practice to model guns to accomodate common animations
This is excellent! please do one on the Mp5
It would be cool to see an overlay of the real thing overtop/next to the various game models to really highlight the detailed differences in parts and scale etc.
I just want to let you know that I really enjoyed spectating that M16A2 E1
Also love how Destiny 2 once again broke Jonathan. He should really play that at some point, it's got such good gunplay!
That M16A2E1 is so fricking cool!
"M4A1-S" from CS is XM177. Little stock, A2 style upper and thin handguard. Also XM177 muzzle device if memory serves
My best friend and I got so skilled with the 203 grenades playing America's Army back in the day. We could hit a fly from across the map by eyeballing it😂👍
Would love to see Jonathan do Ghosts of Tabor’s weapons. They are modeled impeccably from what I can tell and entirely by veterans. The mechanics are also insane.
Please Jonathan, break down the weapons from *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* before the remake comes out.
So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone.
There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please gamespot and Johnathan make a video for the game.
The “AR 16” is closer in resemblance to an AR 180 without the side charging or piston system.
This is a Longshot, but I'd like to see Johnathan look at the guns from Homefront 2. The gimmick of that game being you have basic parts (lower receivers mostly) and then you can change out other parts to make different kinds of weapons. So, you can turn your starting pistol into an smg, and back again. I'm wondering if there are any real world parallels to that.
The fact that he didn't even touch on the fixed right side charging handle used in Fallout New Vegas for all the AR-15 variants has ruined my night.
While I know y’all have to/will do a video like this on the AK family and maybe the Garand, I’d love to see one going over video game M14s, Mini-14s, and Mk14 EBRs, as well as any other M14 derivatives
would have loved Squad or Arma in here
I have never seen that prototype M16 and the built in flip up rear sight is a really cool feature that im sad isnt implemented
23:30 i believe thats been modelled of an Airsoft rifle. as the bit attached to the buffer tube is a sling mount for QD sling points
Johnathan breaking down the guns from the Ghost Recon games would be great.
I believe a CS2 video is warranted actually, not only for the M4(s) tho those have been improved, specially the M4A1-S. Sounds have been changed as well, might be something else worth checking out.
Killzone please 🥺 i promise my first born to the royal armour museum
Do more episodes like this (:
When did we get the new camera? The focusing was pretty on point
Id like to see this for the scar platform of rifles (H and L). Games to get footage from may include: Escape from tarkov (has both) Mw2 (og) for H mw3 (og) for L Operation flashpoint dragons rising (has both) Insurgency sandstorm (for H). Love you guys vids ❤❤
Love the Ghost t-shirt!
Glad to see Black finally get some love here. That game was awesome when it came out on the Xbox/PS2 back in the day. The only thing it lacked was multiplayer. One thing that gets me though is that you didn't point out that on every single one of the iron sights, the night/NBC large aperture is being used and not the narrow day aperture it should be on the narrow one for almost all usage, and only flipped to the large aperture for night time or when firing with your Pro-mask on.
For future breakdowns like this, the year of release should be included in the card for each episode given how much JF mentions the age of the game within his breakdowns. For a part 2 of the same subject, I'd like to see SWAT4 and Homefront 2 included, since have officially licensed (!) examples.
55th week asking for Bullet Girls Phantasia episode, 31st week of asking for loadout on games (not) keeping track of round in chamber.
Destiny 2 is kinda infamous for guns that just cannot work without shrugging and going "Space magic" I'd love to see Jonathan react to the Conspirator scout rifle.
I'm glad they covered Rising Storm. Tripwire/Antimatter modelled weapons have always been decent
Heck ya! More BLACK please. Now more eager to see Mr. Ferguson talk about it since he never got to play the masterpiece that it is back in the day. Good times.
thanks
6:21 surprised there was no mention of the selector switch being in the wrong position.
I would like an stg-44 or an mp5 review like this. Both of the weapons have seen many games.
I have to say, much as I loved this whole video, I spent about five minutes on the first CS:GO entry pausing it to compare the S10 gas mask the operator is wearing to the one on my wall. Pretty accurate, overall I was impressed - the embossed '2' (denoting the mask size) is on the wrong cheek, and a tad higher than on mine, but I can't discount the possibility that this was altered throughout the production run, as mine is from 1991. The other details all look pretty solid, including the presence of the 'ridge' running around the entire facepiece in front of the straps, which isn't present on the FM12, the S10's successor. I realize that quite possibly no one else in this comments section cares in the slightest, but I thought I'd note my observations regardless.
13:50 I know in my use case I down load my duty Pmags a couple rounds because I cant store them with the dust covers on them. The dust cover pushes the rounds down which alleviates the pressure on the feed lips, keeping stored fully loaded without the covers on can cause stress cracks on the lips.
I'dve died if they used the M16 from Tomb Raider 2
You Guy's should get him to check out:
Killzone Series for helical mags and bullpups
The Order 1886 for Steampunk guns and old lesser known guns
From this video definitely he should look at Black
My stock don't telescope, it folds...
Jonathan Ferguson Jiggle Jiggle cover when?
Just a heads up that the more modern airsoft replicas have the battery either stored in the buffer tube, or for clamshell handguards, the handguard.
you should show Jonathan the CS2 models of the counterstrike guns
I did not know I needed Jonathan saying "this sucker right here" in my life. But, it turns out I did. Very much so.
I will keep asking for Ground Branch until you do it!
2:09 come on Jonathan, it has feelings you know?
Ayo? Jonathan Ferguson, weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries with the Ghost merch?
For anyone wanting more information on the controversy of the M16 in the early years of Vietnam, I would recommend the channel "Small Arms Solutions":
th-cam.com/video/NYar4Zf8jH8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=SmallArmsSolutions "What happened with the M16 in Vietnam?"
He also has other videos comparing it to the AK platform, one about Stoner and the M16, and another about the XM16E1.
An insanely good firearms channel that deserves more views.
I carried a M16A1M203 during my military service, and l loved it..
This wonderful man needs to do an HK platform variants AR.
CS2 already came out so have a look on the new models.
16:30 There's also an AR 17 which is a self-loading 12-gauge hunting shotgun there's a video about it on forgotten weapons
I always thought FONV's Service Rifle was an AR-10
My boy with that Ghost shirt!!
7:15 Oh my god, they made the charging handle reciprocating.
This series is always entertaining and often a little bit educational too, I appreciate the mini history lesson on the development of the M16 hidden in here ☺