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- Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries, breaks down the weaponry of Killing Floor 2, including the unique ‘Doshinegun’, a ‘Tommy Gun In Space’, and a lever action shotgun combined with a magic axe blade for good measure.
00:00 - Opening
00:44 - AA-12
01:24 - HRG Tommy Boom
02:21 - AF 2011-A1
03:34 - Dual-wielded AF 2011-A1
04:29 - Pulverizer
06:17 - Doomstick
08:22 - Glock 18C
10:31 - Frostfang
12:04 - Mosin Nagant M91/30 with bayonet
14:50 - Helios Rifle Microwave Gun
16:03 - Spitfire
18:20 - Doshinegun
20:08 - HMTech-501 Grenade Rifle
22:10 - Ending
In the latest video in the Firearm Expert Reacts series, Jonathan Ferguson--a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries--breaks down the guns of Killing Floor 2 and compares them to their potential real-life counterparts.
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I feel like the people who put this showcase together completely misunderstood why this game was so requested. It wasn't for the wackiness of the fantasy guns, but for the slavish attention to detail, especially the animations, for the real ones.
Understandable since the devs themselves forgot this ...
@@jtktomb8598 That doesn't surprise me.
@@jtktomb8598 New stuff isnt made by Tripwire anymore but by Saber and you can sadly see it in quality.
@@jtktomb8598 I miss when they cared
Gamespot misunderstanding the audience, who would have thought? Lol
I'm surprised they didn't show more footage of the weapons when the slo-mo kicks in, they're really well modelled. The same developer made Red Orchestra and Rising Storm games which I'd recommend
Agreed. I appreciate the detail the game's weapons have in zed-time, with parts and furniture rattling and shaking. Usually in games the only parts shown to move are the trigger and charging handle.
I'm not surprised, Gamespot shows us at every possible turn how disappointing they are
I'd like to point out that mostly earlier weapons in game (closer to the release date) are well animated/modelled. Most are mocapped at CRAZY fps, which gives them such a nice feel in Zed-time, something that's lost in the newer guns.
I believe they also increased the play on the connection points in gun parts, which is obviously visible in zed-time when the parts are flapping about everywhere, it's not realistic, but it's exaggerated just enough that it looks beautiful on camera, which i also appreciate. KF2 is arguably the best zombie shooter right now, only L4D2 rivaling it is some areas (though i don't know much about current zombie shooters). While KF1 is obviously outdated in a few aspects, if anyone haven't experienced it, i highly recommend, very fun game as well
@@yobrethren The detail and animations of the guns in the game are amazing. It's a shame that they decided to review a lot of the "fantasy" guns and not the "Real word" ones. The devs put so much time into the research of the weapons.
Let’s hope there’s a part 2
definetly needs a part 2, the different loading animations between normal mercs and perked up/trained mercs is something id like for jonathan to at least mention.... thats excluding other reasons, one big one for jonathan in particular since the game features a stg44, which doesnt look too bad with skins aswell!
Not just a Stg44, a MKb 42(H), which is the prototype predecessor of the Sturmgewehr. Something tells me someone on KF2 team is a gun nerd.
Also I'm surprised Jonathan didn't mention that the Frostfang shotgun has a rear sight from a Gewehr 98.
@@TheRaptor06 a lot of tripwire Interactive are actually massive gun and car nerds.
@@TheRaptor06 and then tripwire started neglecting and running out of money for their games so they just put out dlcs
@@TheRaptor06 Folks at Tripwire are total gun nerds and they also had many consultations with gun experts I'm sure
@@TheRaptor06 Tripwire made Red Orchestra 2, which is set in 1942 and uses the MKb
Absolutely need a part 2 for this showing off the reloads for the more realistic weapons with and without perks. They're incredibly good.
Seriously the gunslinger with two pistols but only one in the chamber of one is so good.
Gamespot : Please upload raw footage of Jonathan's reaction without cuts.
I don't care if it is +1hour long, we could appreciate more thorough explanations and ramblings from Him, which I find immensely entertaining
PLEASE
RELEASE THE JONATHAN CUT
Id rather it be an hour long.
Jonathan Raw: Uncut and Uncensored
Heck, I’d buy that as a DVD.
Ya, they never fit enough of the recording in these tiny videos.
WE DEMAND THE UNCUT VERSION!
Surprised that he didn't comment on all of the details a lot of these have. The different reload types, the incredibly detailed and realistic zed-time firing of the guns, the shaking of the attached sights as guns fire.
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@Swiftatty Me
@Swiftatty I did, i asked
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The double 1911 actually has linked triggers because under us law full auto is more than 1 round per trigger action PER BARREL. That's why volley guns are fine.
I always felt like the big thing with kf2 was the slowmo gun animations, feels like a bit of a waste to completely ignore that part.
Bit disappointed that they didnt address the reload animations at all. When you get the specific skills for it, it does faster reloads that still work irl cause they had experts mocap them. The weapon animations are also at insanely high framerates so that you can see all the details in slowmo.
How about revisiting Hunt: Showdown? They've added few new weapons sice last episode and it's less visited time period in games so it could use some spotlight.
I'd love this, too! It encapsules some of the biggest evolutions in firearms history. And the most recent addition to the armory was most definitely inspired by Jonathan. He could also look at the bullet grubber perk with different guns, and the different ammo types (winfield terminus beautifully shows off the flechetye ammo for example).
Yes please!
Yes please so many good weapons added, they just added the sharps(sparks) pistol!
YESSS!!!
Yes, Hunt Showdown definitely deserves revisit
This game has a lot of weapons, we need a part II
Literally like 100+
The game also has a normal Thompson, the one we saw here was a reskin with explosive rounds. And KF 2 is one of those games that has the distance fuse of the M203 grenade and the RPG 7 modeled ingame (Unarmed projectiles cause 300% more damage to some enemies)
Popping scrake heads with the RPG point blank never gets old
i...didnt know that actually
good to know next time i run demo
And the rpg can knock down enemies behind you when you fire it. The game is full of tiny details.
Unarmed projectiles don't do more damage. Projectiles that explode still do their physical damage before explosive damage, so decapping a scrake with a rocket is still possible even when the rocket explodes.
@@XenoSpyro Scrakes and Fleshpounds take 300% more damage from unarmed explosives - Scrakes have high resistance against explosions and are weak against bullets while Fleshpounds are resistant to bullets and weak to explosions. The game doesn't really tell those things to us players outside of the loading screen tooltips
Not showing jonathan the normal version of the tommy but instead the hrg variant??, also it's a missed opportunity to not show him the tons of different reload aninations depending on skills.
Also keep in mind that dlc weapons don't have the attention to detail that base weapons do, this could really benefit from a part 2!
not only that, there's cool details like shotguns will fire one-handed with more recoil if you shoot too quickly, since the left arm didn't reach the weapon yet xD
they just need to stop showing Jonathan the HRG reskins and the part 2 would be immensely good
maybe like the HemoGlobin, or the HemoClobber, the HMTech guns
@@recoraccoon All of the medic guns. Especially the one with the mounted launcher. One of the coolest animated guns in the game.
Fun thing to note, even though many weapons and some handling techniques are fantastical the developers took great care to animate things in a realistic or at least plausible sense, even going so far as to have what is basically "amateur" and "professional" reloads for every weapon.
For example, on the M9 pistol for "amateur" the player will slingshot the slide while for "professional" they will use the slide release.
The perk describes a faster reload and rather than just make the animation faster they chose to animate an alternative method that was actually faster.
If you reload with ammo still in the gun the player character will swap magazines, while when empty there will be more manipulation.
The game is even smart enough that when you're dual-weulding pistols if one is empty and another is not it will emergency reload the one and tactical reload the other.
Revolvers are done rather fantastically with every reload just emptying all cylinders and any remaining ammo magically going back into your inventory, but overall there's an impressive amount of detail and consideration for what is really just a zany horror shooter.
Am disappointed no regular guns(apart from the AA12 and Mosin) were shown. There is no no showcase of the reloads which I believe play a huge part in enjoying KF2. Also as others have pointed out, no clips of ZED time as well.
Edit: Just want to say that I think they dropped the ball on this one.
There will probably be a part two down the line.
@@Mr_T_Badger I sure hope so.
@@Mr_T_Badger hope they dont take as long as they did to post another KF2 with proper guns and zed time
The glock 18 and glock 18c / riot shield are real guns.
@@polar-izer ah yes, those too.
The Space Tommy Gun has me hankering for a reaction to Far Cry Blood Dragon's arsenal. The fight between neon greeblies and homages to specific 80's action movie weaponry.
One thing that came up in this video about "weapons in sci-fi and space always have knuckle bows" and knuckle bows in real life guns only usually being used to accomadate bulky snow gloves: At least in the "in space!" concept, it makes perfect sense, as in sci-fi space settings almost everybody is going to be wearing a bulky space suit of some sort on and off. Knuckle bows as standard to accomadate for a universe where soldiers may or may not be wearing heavy duty space survival gear at any given time actually makes a lot of sense.
I noticed this too!
The handguard (instead of a triggerguard) on sci-fi firearms was always something I poked fun at, but I think Jonathan has it.
Vacuum-capable and presumably reinforced gloves on space suits would prevent one from inserting their finger into most trigger guards, that would explain the full knuckle bow handguards!
It's at about 15:40 that it's discussed.
I would love some more of this, particularly I would love to see more of the regular weapons as the zed time animations are so much fun, and it would be interesting to show footage of the different reload animations, depending on your perk setup you get different reload animations.
ROCK AND STONE!
@@Xphinity STONE AND ROCK
no wait
@@Xphinity Getting Jonathan to looks at DRG guns would be hilarious.
@@inquisitorbenediktanders3142 DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?!?!
@@Caysari ROCK!!!
AND!!!
STONE!!!
Y'all really need a part 2 for this one that talks about the more grounded conventional weapons like the ak-12 and others, animation details on zed time, and reload animation
A close look at the glock-and-shield animation in slow-mo actually shows that it's the _front_ of the slide that's being caught on the shield to rack the slide, not the rear sight.
I know that for the more grounded weapons in KF2 they put a LOT of effort in the animations while shooting, most notably during slo-mo (Zed time).
Part 2 please! I would like to see the AR-15 Varmint rifle covered. It is interesting to see a 9mm AR instead of a .223 or a .308 being used in a video game
I'd love to see more reactions to KF2 guns.
I've waited so long for this. This game has a lot of cool guns and details so we need part 2.
I would love to see him react to the gun handling mechanics of receiver 2
The first Receiver was what got me into realistic gunplay games.
Would pay to see this
Should've put more focus on reload animations, especially in slow-mo. I'm sure Jonathan would appreciate the focus on detail Tripwire did there. Also the chamber 'check' animations when your mag is full.
Show him the .500 Magnums, Railgun, FAMAS with Masterkey next time too!
I would love a part 2 with his reaction to the DIY nature of half the firebug weapons, that and the shotgun knuckles
10:09
The reload animation with the shield is actually the character pushing the front of the slide against shield to release the slide. The character isn't using the rear sight. This is a much more valid reload method than using the rear sight to release the slide.
there is 1 trivial thing that close to be reviewed but until the end it wasn't mentioned. almost every weapon in KF 2 have 2 reload animations, 1 for empty mag and 1 for half or non empty mag, Jonathan almost got this on Glock part. either way this is fun review
Would be really cool if Jonathan made a video on *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* weapons.
So many weapons in that game to comment on like the patriot, the EZ gun, Snake's M1911, Ocelot's SAA and Eva's chinese mauser clone.
Want to know your take on the Boss disassembling Snake's 1911 without removing the slide stop and many many more...
Would certainly like to see Jonathan react to the original ps1 Resident Evil games and their firearms.
Didn't expect Jonathan to mention Rise of the Triad in one of these videos. Now we need to see him react to the original ROTT and the remake
PLEASE have him do KF1 I'm OBSESED with the M7A3 and I'd love to know what he thinks it's real life counterpart would be
Yesssss it's happening! =D
I patiently await part 2. : )
I was really not expecting a reaction to Killing Floor 2. I'm nicely surprised!
As a KF2 massive fan, this is weird, why now?
Without doing the original Killing Floor, too. How odd.
In reference to the knuckle bow guards on sci fi guns I think it’s to a point referencing the Steyr aug being the “futuristic” gun for a long time in movies and such I think die hard was one of the first to use it but certainly not the only one.
As for the practicality of the knuckle guard itself well it seems to not negatively impact the use of the rifle in any way. The ADF has done an indigenous redesign of the rifle to fit australian conditions better and they kept the knuckle guard and it’s not like the ADF does much in the way of Arctic or sub zero operations. I do note that I’ve seen quite a few diggers use the knuckle guard as a sort of front grip as well which is interesting given the fact all Austeyrs have a front grip, maybe it’s a comfortable hand placement for firing?
I recently got possession of an Aug and am learning how it functions in comparison to more traditional firearms. The ‘knuckle guard’ is useful to rest the palm on when gripping the stock behind the foregrip. I can see why the IDF incorporated a similar technique with their Tavor rifles. The one disadvantage is that the lack of a trigger guard makes it difficult to safely pick up the rifle one-handed by its balance point, which happens to be right where the trigger sits.
@@AnonEMus-cp2mn just a tip the general practice for picking the rifle up safely at least as I was taught from the ADF personnel I learnt it from was to always pick up the rifle in essentially a C clamp grip between where the grip and mag well is, not perfect it is to the rear of the balance point but it’s close enough that I got comfortable with it pretty quick.
But yeah I’m not entirely sure the benefit of gripping the knuckle guard instead of the foregrip is, seeing as the foregrips entire purpose is to provide good hand placement for control of the rifle but I’ve seen enough people do it so there must some advantages I just obviously haven’t fired the rifle enough to figure them out
One thing I also think worth mentioning, basically every gun (with a small handful of exceptions iirc) has a regular reload and a faster "tactical" reload you can unlock at a certain level.
ahhhhhhhh you guys are legends thank you so much. There are definitely enough guns in game to do several more videos!
from the glock 18´s reload, it seems the character uses the front of the slide, not the rear sights, just something ive noticed. also yes, the entire HM line of weapons in the game uses caseless ammunition.
The style of akimbo aiming I like is when your character changes the gun they aim with. I mean- they aim with right while shooting the right one and aim with left when they shoot with left one.
So far I saw it done in one Gmod addon
Cute Pfp
@@VentusTheSox thx
Your's cool too
The Darkness 2 had that
@@toasted2807 cool
I am interested in Darkness, but don't have it in my library yet.
@@masterzoroark6664 only reason I've played 2 myself was anyone that preordered The Bureau from EB Games at the time it was a bonus, it's an interesting concept though I don't know how it got past Australian censorship with the brothel stage.
YES! I've been waiting for this entry since I've started watching this series!
Definitely needs a part 2, so many standard guns that have very good animation and textures. Such an under appreciated game.
the chambering of the G18 with the shield is actually being done off the front corner of the slide, you can see it in the slow motion clip at 10:10
I just realised when Johnathan was talking about the knuckle-bow trigger guard on the microwave gun - the design appears so often in sci-fi because the weapons are designed to be used while wearing a spacesuit! It's probably not a conscious decision every time but someone must have made a sci-fi gun that you can fire with a spacesuit gauntlet and everyone's been copying that.
Also, the Spitfire is using flares not rockets, so the bare bones design doesn't make much sense but it explains the flamethrower style muzzle device. The HMTech grenades are loaded with some kind of sci-fi healing gas, which is why there's a not-red-cross on there.
So now that Jonathan mentioned him, can we have a guest appearance by Jonathan's counterpart in the armor department reacting to various game armor suits?
Jonathan is correct that Rise of the Triad was the first game to have dual wielding, but it does share that honor with Marathon which also released on December 21, 1994 and also had dual wielding
I can think of one reason futuristic guns tend to have full handguards: spacesuits and environment suits. If you're wearing a spacesuit/environment suit, you are wearing very big, bulky gloves, meaning you can't reasonably get into a normal trigger guard; anyone who needs to wear either of those and needs to use a gun would probably want a knuckle guard instead of a trigger guard.
6:03 there is also another thing like this called the Mexican Hammer from an exploding hammer festival. Basically its a sledge hammer with a shotgun shell on the end that works off the same principles as a slam fire. Here they just added a magazine to it for added spectacul
Yes! I have been waiting for this for so long!
Excellent timing!
Just started binge-playing this game again.
Just gonna add my voice to the mix: We need a part 2 with the realistic guns. KF2 has some of the best handling and modeled guns in video games, especially when looking at the realistic ones like the 1911s, and I'd love to see Jonathan react to those as well. The weird ones are fun, but the realistic ones are where the focus should be for something like this
I've been waiting for this
This guy is the best. Awesome job Jonathan, I always enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the great work 👍
FINALLY, Thank you for this and part 2 maybe? :D
You need to show these guns in slow mo. They specifically animated the guns at a higher frame rate that really shows how all of the parts move.
Fun little note about the Mosin's bayonet: the chisel tip served a secondary purpose. It was a standard screwdriver used to service the weapon in emergencies/field conditions. All the screws, including the bolt, used a standard tip.
Assuming the AF 2011 debuted in 2011, the green hornet movie came out in 2011, and must have been written before that. It has a double pistol in it.
Something it seems Ferguson misinterpreted was the character using the rear sight off the shield to pull back the slide. It looks more when they slow the footage down that he's actually using the front corner of the slide off the shield to pull it back
Thank you for putting the axe video link in the description.
I've been waiting for this!
Funny thing about the knight character - he's actually just a LARPer who pretty much saw the whole zombie thing as the perfect opportunity to live out his greatest fantasy lol.
lol
He's the best character imo (better than the Loadsamoney DLC character in KF1).
Only obtainable if Chivalry is owned, so only a benefit for fun if it was bought when the game was still popular and not filled with people roundhousing with greatswords.
I legit was hoping you do this :D
Please do another episode of this. This game is awesome.
Nice, I've been waiting for him to do one of the Killing Floor games. Hopefully we get a part 2, there are so many weapons just in KF2 by now.
So a note on the difference in reload animations(in case Jonathan reads through these comments): it's based on the levels of whatever Perk the player is using.
There's a choice of two trees, and in one of them for almost every Perk there's an option for tactical reloads which are a fair bit faster, but only for the weapons that the Perk affects.
Say, assault rifles for the Commando perk, and handguns for the Gunslinger perk.
But rather than just being a percentage increase like it was in the game's predecessor, they have completely separate animations. The most obvious differences are the tactical reloads using flicks to unseat the magazines, and utilizing the bolt/slide release instead of manually pulling them back to slingshot the bolt or slide.
And as an additional note: the HmTech series of firearms are all based around a modular system, where the Grenade Rifle is the outlier. All of the other Medic guns work around a single chassis, whether that be a pistol, SMG, shotgun, or assault rifle. They also all use caseless ammunition.
Need a part 2 so badly!
Ive been a fan of Killing Floor since 2012 and I have been really itching for a review on KF2's Pulverizor which has gotta be my most favorite weapon concept ever.
LOVED this one, hoping for a part 2 🥰 This game goes bonkers on the actual bullets' effects but aside from hrg and a couple of sci-fi ones, the guns' reloads and rpm animations are incredibly realistic
(unrelated, has he ever reacted to the fmg9?)
That sound when you pulled the glock slide back was amazing
Now we need a part two!
Loved the video. Actually, Love all your videos Jonathan. I've learned alot about firearms and really like those neat historical detailes you mention, they are quite intersting.
Now I have a question, How did such a rare peice like a former king's personal firearm go missing?
We NEED A PART TWO! PLS
THIS GAME IS AWESOME AND ITS MY FAVORITE. YOU CAN SHOW WITH MORE DETAIL MOST OF THIS WEAPONS
The pulverizer is also reminiscent of the classic Bullet Powered Sledge Hammer, which is used to drive nails into concrete. There's a standard type, which is just more like a gun that holds a nail at the end, but there's also a sledgehammer type that is used for large poles or deep driving into concrete
I would love to see a part 2 there’s so many crazy weapons
I knew Jonathan was awesome but him mentioning Rise of the Triad puts him on a whole new level of super awesome.
There are plenty more guns in the game, reason enough for a part 2, but it is definitely worth it to try and show off the different reloads based on the perks and the visual details seen in slow motion Zed Time.
Please PLEASE have him do a video on the weapons from Homefront: The Revolution, Jonathan would have an absolute field day ripping the entire game apart.
Did Jonathan mention an armour counterpart? There better be an Armour Expert Reacts series in the works!
Definitely need another episode of this awesome game and its arsenals, including the OG Thompson SMG and the iconic double barrel shotgun.
I've actually been looking forward to when he does this game
I've been looking forward to this
Johnathan "This gun shoots.... Money!"
Me: LOADS OF MONEY!
Finally! Thank you Jonathan.
Also, seeing as he spoke about the percussion guns, I'd definitely like to hear what Jonathan have to say about the starting Gunslinger pistols which are *actual* percussion cap revolvers.
By far one of my favorite games I own it on two different systems with almost 1000 hours between both (I need a life I know) but the game is great and it has fun little seasonal updates all the time
So happy they did this
Suggestion if you do part 2 of kf2 you should show jonathan slo mo (zed time) animations of some guns, because they are extremely detailed. For example when shooting some rifles, parts like magazine, barrel and sights shakes independently from gun
Edit: 4:16 also it doesn't go out of screen with certain perks wish you showed him that gameplay
It always cracks me up when I see a Mosin being used with stripper clips super smoothly.
FINALLY lol definitely want a part 2
Yeees! I was waiting for him to check this game
Think with that last one it looks like the “grenade” is a gas dispenser, dispensing some sort of healing agent or painkiller perhaps to keep them in the fight
Yep, it's a medic gun they all from memory have things like that but it's been years since I touched KF2.
Funnily enough, Jonathan mentioned artic warfare and thick gloves when talking about the whole sci-fi knuckle bow trend, which when you consider it's sci-fi makes sense, cause most people are usually wearing some kind of armoured environment suit
I’ve been waiting for this
This was an absolute treat, thanks! Altho video should be named "reacting to kf2 meme guns", where's my famas, fal, and of course bullpulp? so many real guns and we've only got the memes :D
Finally I have been waiting for this for months xD
The one thing that they didn’t showcase, was in one of the Dev diaries, they showed how the Medic weapons build on top of each other. How it all reloads through the same pistol grip, and just adding or subtracting parts to it makes the SMG, the Shotgun, and the assault rifle. They even mention that the medic isn’t a warrior by trade, so to make the weapons and the class lighter, it uses caseless ammunition
We need part 2!! Also this game is so much fun!
Glad to see you're covering this game it deserves it.
FINALLY! My long awaited wish has came true!
I'd love to see his take on the doom guns throughout the different iterations
You need a part 2 on this. Lots of other wacky weapons