It would be interesting to see Jonathan‘s thoughts on the guns and upgrads from the Wolfenstein games. Alot of the guns are WW2 era German firearms with a more “Modern” designs. Personally I think the Schockhammer will break him, fully automatic 40 round 3 barrel shotgun.
Yeah, they did a really good job with it. I'd love to see a full on sequel to Red Orchestra 2, but I don't think it'll happen. Antimatter games (the people who made Rising Storm 1 & 2) are currently developing a new IGI game, and another game called '83, which from what I've seen, looks like an Arma style milsim, so I'm pretty excited for that.
@@mateusz_0 it's more in depth than most shooters. Just don't run around like it's cod or battlefield, understand where enemy spawns. And stick with the team. And if you're team is poorly organized it'll be a struggle no matter what. But it comes with time
There is a weapon sim called Receiver 2 that has a very unique take on operating firearms. Every single action of using the weapon is mapped on different keys that correspond to different actions, like having to do seven different things to reload, put new rounds in the magazine or clearing malfunctions. Quite niche, but it's worth a look.
Yeah its great game sometimes its soo hard/flustrating and proves why revolvers are great weapons also Glock safety is confusing shot my self 2times with safety on:)
@@felkos2412 same. It's definitely at the end of its life cycle, which makes me die a little every time I consider it, but it is still quite alive. What servers do you usually play on?
Interestingly, Australia's allies also loved the Owenn Gun. New Zealand troops in the Pacific used it in place of the Thompson and apparently Douglas MacArthur wanted to adopt the Owen Gun in the Pacific instead of the Thompson
Don’t blame them. Haven’t handled an owen but if fired several variants of Thompson and they are heavy, awkward and climb more then a .45 smg should. I have fired and MP40 and an M3 grease gun which are similar in design theory to the Owen (open bolt tube receiver) and both of them were light handy and very controllable and accurate enough to get the job done!
The Ithaca 37 with the engraving is actually pretty common. It's more uncommon to find them without, I've actually seen photos from Vietnam of the guns with this roll stamp type engraving. They just kinda added it to all of the receivers at the factory and built the guns into different configurations to fill orders
Funnily enough, the version used in Aliens also has the engraving/stamping on it. You can't see it very well in the movie, but in proper photos and other movies the same prop was in you can see it.
A correction on the M14. It was the standard US service rifle for 5 years, and has been in service a total of 63 years. It's still used as a designated marksman's rifle and has been since its introduction.
@@thewerepyreking it was still used in iraq & afghanistan during the GWOT as a marksman rifle with many of the m14s being issued remaining unaccurized and leftovers from vietnam stock
The M14 rifles also had a gas shut off for the use of rifle grenades, I imagine it could also be used with subsonic ammo and a suppressor, I’ve never seen it done
@@wavelesstime914 granted, I’ve never played the game, but on a real M14 and M1A (in my case, M305), a single shot function can be achieved by closing the gas port
@@nootz101 Yeah, but why would you even do such a thing? For rifle grenades, it is to prevent the gas system from overpressure, here it is completely harmless.
I feel like in previous episodes, Jonathan commented more on the actual implementation of the weapons in game like reloads, sights etc. Now he only talks about the history which is still cool but I miss the previous approach.
Perhaps there wasn't much to complain about and the game was reasonably accurate? I'm sure if the game devs had put lucky charms and gold plate over the weapons then we would have got a rise out of Jonathan.
Tbh it was kinda getting to the point where he would see a gun and make the same comment on it that he made on a hundred other guns. Charging handle not right, sights too large, magazine well looks wrong. Focusing on the guns history let's him avoid that.
makes me really happy when they cover this game especially this video which has some great clips, hopefully it gets some viewers interested in checking the game out as it's one of the best multiplayer shooters I've ever played
Have to admit, you showed the Owen and I was hoping to hear more about the FAL/L1 field version, modifications they made. Oh well, maybe for next time. Or another video.
11:09 The Owen submachine gun has a more closed receiver compared to STEN guns meaning less mud and other stuff can get into then guns internal mechanism making the Owen more reliable. With the position of the Owen's magazine on top gravity helps the magazine function more reliably again making the gun more reliable. So this is probably the reason why the Owen gun was more popular among the Australian soldiers than the AUSTEN (Australian version of the STEN).
Was part of the reason it was made. Lot of Aussie troops were in situations where mud and dirt would get in their weapons and jam them. The design of the Owen gun stopped that from happening.
I'd like to add that in the game, the ithica can be used with slug rounds as well, increasing the range. First time I got killed by one from 115m away I was really confused lol
Jonathan is that guy that supplies you with guns and cool gadgets as well as "some experimental suff he's been working on" inbetween missions. Might have to resque him from the bad guys in the second half of the game.
That’s interesting about the subsonic ammo not having the power to cycle the bolt on it’s own. When I saw the clip I assumed that maybe it had a lock for the bolt, kind of like the slide lock on the MK22 hush puppy, to reduce the mechanical report of the action.
@@no.7893 The amount of extra gas that is not being tapped is so miniscule, the difference is about the same as the inconsistencies from one cartridge to the next.
@@halo7oo Yeah I wouldn't imagine it's much of anything, and the whole point of subsonic ammo is to reduce the power to be rid of the sonic boom so it would be a bit counterproductive anyway.
My grandfather was an MP during Vietnam, he loved having a 12 gauge on hand, especially since he was more afraid of the local snake population than the VC/NVA. He had bird shot sent to him for such occasions
I'd love to see Jonathan react to the guns of Killzone 2 or 3, a sci-fi series but the guns (mostly) seem surprisingly down to earth, and I feel like he'd have some fun with it.
That feature is called "double render scope" it requires the game to render 2 seperate areas. Most games don't use that feature because it significantly hurts your fps.
Wound love to see Jonathan have a go on Gun Club VR on the Oculus Quest where he can virtually get “hands on” with the firearms and compare the virtual operation to the real life mechanics.
Interesting tidbit for the SKS as depicted in game. Its possible to dump a partually used magazine, to reload a new clip in through the top, you keep the ammo, but importantly, it does not go back onto a stripper clip. It is entirely possible to reload and shoot all your clipped ammunition, at which point your character will start SINGLE FEEDING ammunition through the top (if you manage to live that long in game)
wouldn't watch this channel if not for Johnathan Ferguson, love his work his media presence and whoever come up with this collaborative series was brilliant for knowledge, the museum, and the channel.
I could be wrong (and I'm not the expert, Jonathan is!) but I thought that some (but not all) of the K-50Ms could be used with the 71-round drums just fine, since the early ones were actually just modified Chinese Type 50s, retaining the receiver and barrel, with the wooden stock exchanged for a more 60s appropriate pistol grip and the barrel shroud cut down and folded. I believe the slightly weighty "stock" part of the receiver was there to counterbalance the climb from the high rate of fire, as opposed to Sudayev's fix for removing the wood stock in his PPS which was to drop the bolt cycling rate. Obviously, this compatibility assumes that the user has extended the wire stock first... but given that the magazine well wasn't modified, so long there was a good fitting drum, less of an issue with Type 50s I believe, there's no reason this wouldn't be the case, right? Given how crude Jonathan claims this one is, perhaps it's a totally domestic made copy, which isn't as accurate and so might exhibit more serious fitting issues with the drum mags?
I'm still curious to here his thoughts on the Service Weapon from Control. He's often remarked at scifi game for it'll using outdated tech. Cool to see talk about the reality of something like the service weapon which morphs with its functions. And as someone who's a a gun enthusiast, I'd like to hear him describe what makes different guns function, like shotguns pistols, carbines etc.
My cousin actually bought an SKS with wooden furnishing that like in the game is loaded with a stripper clip. It was from a surplus sale at a gun store and it even had the correct bayonet included. Plus I got to shoot it at a firing range which was fun, so I can at least say there are still some lying around in good working condition as my cousin got one even after so many years since then.
Its not surprising but they actually got the Owen gun the right way round, unlike a certain high budget fps. Kinda surprised Jonathan didn't point it out as it wasn't too long ago since that video came out.
In the Rhodesian Bush War, several Selous Scout teams came to the conclusion that their suppressed smgs lacked sufficient firepower and opted to rebuild captured AKs with suppressors, and manufacture subsonic ammunition (this required the bolt to be cycled for each shot). One RPD was cut down in size, the stock removed, and a lighter buffer system installed to reliably cycle subsonic rounds. Even though it was unsuppressed, it was allegedly quiet enough to confuse the enemy of its exact position. As for the early philosophy of the Sks, the Chinese on the other hand manufactured the rifle in large quantities alongside the AK to outfit their large military, and developed the Type 63 (mechanically a hybrid between the two), with detachable 20rd magazines and a full auto selector. The Type 63 was manufactured with better tolerances to act as sort of a Designated Marksman Rifle, but retained the full-auto capability to keep up with AKs in direct assaults.
I've loved this game since it came out. Everything from the map design to the asymmetrical gameplay. I'd say it's also one of the best games when it comes down to gunplay. There are always active servers too!
ah yes the Owen gun, i definitely heard of it before, never realised it was substitute for the Sten. More games should have it, but that said, i didn't realise COD Vanguard has this gun, so mission Accomplished? West Aussie here.
I think it was more than a Sten substitute. From what I understand our forces were relying on Stens until they eventually tested the Owen against it and a Thompson, and the Owen proved more reliable. The Owen was mostly ignored by the army before then.
There's an interesting video history of it in Forgotten weapons, explaining that the basic design was a kit-bash gun made by Lt. Owen when he was a teenager before joining the military and a neighbor of his who was a relative newcomer to the gun manufacturer industry saw it and decided to try and make it into a functional gun, where it went through a lot of remakes as the Australian government didn't want to give the gun the time of day and made excuses to not have it on weapon trials, until it was decided to actually be allowed on trials wherein the Owen outperformed all the other SMGs, and thereafter it became Australia's and its allies main SMG weapon
Been a while since I last played Rising Storm 2, but I think those white gloves in the game are actually part of the base game as a customization option for officers in the vietnamese faction that was being played there. Please correct me if I'm wrong here.
@ Jonathan - you need to add that subsonic ammo is basically turns your rifle into a pistol. Consider 220 grain 7.62x51 vs 230 .45 ACP. Subsonic rifle ammo, while much quieter, is also much less accurate and underpowered.
Can Jonathan please do a reaction to Escape From Tarkov's new weapon malfunctions? I would love to hear his input into how accurately Battlestate Games animated and modeled weapon malfunctions!
The SKS seems almost like a Mosin 2.0. In that it was a generation behind for much of its history. But it was cheap enough, and enough of them existed, that they turned up everywhere any group of people needed a big pile of guns for the next 70 or so years after it was deemed inadequate.
Krag Jorgensen is a Norwegian rifle that was used during the Spanish American 1898 war.I was always told that was our shortest used rifle .Side note Teddy Rosevelt went up Kettle Hill.
It would be very interesting to see Jonathan react to the mil-sim game Onward VR. I believe they only add guns that are in use right now, and they have accurate(?) gun models.
the RPD wasn't replaced by PK machine gun as squad machine gun but by the RPK , PK was starting to be implemented into squad only in afghanistan and even then it was rarely part of the squad but more like an attached support element
"Australia represent!" Owen Gun ("Digger's Darling" to some) was rejected originally by the Aussie Army who were relying on Sten guns however before his deployment to the Middle East he spoke to a local Lysaght steel plant manager. The company took interest in the design after conducting tests in September 1941 the gun was found to be more accurate and reliable than the Sten and Thompson designs available and production began.
With the Ithaca engraving; most guns are engraved with the animal youre going to shoot with the gun BEFORE you shoot them. The Ithaca is engraved with the animal AFTER.
Idk, having fired an SKS, I'm glad they made them. It has a feel in the kick similar to a bolt action rifle like the Einfield when you fire it, but has much better control and ROF. I also personally find the sighting on it to be very intuitive. And the clunky beast just looks mean.
Please show Jonathan more Battlefield 1 guns, so many interesting weapons he didn’t cover: -Lewis Gun -M1903 with Pederson Device -Steyr Hahn Machine Pistol -Howell Rifle -RSC1917 -MG14/17 Parabellum And so many more!
4:43 I'm sure shotguns are effective way past 50 meters. The steel pellets might not be as tightly grouped as on a target 25-50 meters away, but those pellets aren't stopping on their own for at least 400 yards when fired from a 12 gauge shotgun. But you might be referencing the in game effectiveness here, which I would believe, because video games and film/television always underestimate or downplay the range of shotgun rounds.
pellets lose all accuracy and any real steam past 300 yards. if youre using slugs they could definitely be lethal but youd be almost mortaring them in, and praying they hit what you aim at
The range in the game where the shotgun remains useful is definitely over 50 metres, ive gotten kills with it above 90m, although it is always a bit of a surprise. I think the pellets are simulated reasonably well.
Shotguns in RS2 are pretty accurate to real life. Even if the probability of those pellets hitting drops by the distance they will still be travelling quite a bit, it all comes down to luck. Slugs function as they should too
Hear me out imagine if Jonathan made a gaming channel played whatever games he likes or is recommended and during or at the end of the video he talks about the type of weapons used and compare them to ones today or in the past
You should revisit Escape From Tarkov. They recently added a few new guns, including the SCAR, as well as expanding the malfunctions and adding overheating to weapons.
I'd love to see Johnathan have a look at the guns in Devil May Cry 5. Particularly the Blue Rose, since according to the codex it fires two shots at once.
My uncle served in Vietnam. He qualified with the M14. When he was assigned to an operational unit. The the Army took the M14 and issued him an M16. To this day he says he felt robbed.
I wanna see him look at red orchestra 2/rising storm 1 And the various weapon upgrades too! Would love to see his comments on the mp40 dual mag and mkb with the optic or the japanese scoped machine guns
Jonathan is the best thing that ever happened to this channel honestly
Someone discover fire here:)
Let's not forget that this and the Ladout series was David Jewitt's idea
Even TH-cam seems to recognize it, as it only ever recommends this series to me; I havent gotten a single other GameSpot video recommended to me ever.
Thats because you're a right wing gun nut
@@HermosaBeachJoe Yes, and?
You'd think Johnathan would be super ripped because of single handedly carrying this channel
shredathan
This comment is single-handedly carrying this comment section. On every single one of these videos. Seriously. Please get a new joke.
Whos saying he isnt ripped?
It would be interesting to see Jonathan‘s thoughts on the guns and upgrads from the Wolfenstein games. Alot of the guns are WW2 era German firearms with a more “Modern” designs. Personally I think the Schockhammer will break him, fully automatic 40 round 3 barrel shotgun.
That’s a really good idea!
Wait. Those are full auto?
I always dual wield one-shot with them.
You have to use the rotor upgrade
Did you mention it's a rotary shotgun!?
Hey, at least they keep the gun cool x3
@@JohnPeacekeeper I mean there's a one shot mode in the latest Wolfenstein where you shoot all 3 barrels at once, very much Wolfenstein
Rising Storm 2 is one of the best shooters going. highly underrated. It's the perfect blend of milsim/shooter. Great fun, and challenging.
But Its hard to learn🤕
The gunplay is so satisfying!
Yeah, they did a really good job with it. I'd love to see a full on sequel to Red Orchestra 2, but I don't think it'll happen. Antimatter games (the people who made Rising Storm 1 & 2) are currently developing a new IGI game, and another game called '83, which from what I've seen, looks like an Arma style milsim, so I'm pretty excited for that.
@@michaelsteffensen6844 I'd say '83 will follow the steps of RS2. Not much news on its development since the trailer dropped tho
@@mateusz_0 it's more in depth than most shooters. Just don't run around like it's cod or battlefield, understand where enemy spawns. And stick with the team.
And if you're team is poorly organized it'll be a struggle no matter what. But it comes with time
There is a weapon sim called Receiver 2 that has a very unique take on operating firearms. Every single action of using the weapon is mapped on different keys that correspond to different actions, like having to do seven different things to reload, put new rounds in the magazine or clearing malfunctions.
Quite niche, but it's worth a look.
Yesss receiver 2 is top notch regarding gun malfunctions and general gun safety even
i had a ton of fun with it, i would love to see it expand to human enemies and more weapons than just handguns
Yeah its great game sometimes its soo hard/flustrating and proves why revolvers are great weapons also Glock safety is confusing shot my self 2times with safety on:)
@@joe125ful Glocks don't have a manual safety.
Haven't played it but it does sound like something I'd like to see
Jonathan: "Shotguns are very effective out to 50 meters, less so beyond that."
RS2: Vietnam: "Hold my rice."
I'll always remember the match where I sat in a bunker with a double barrel getting consistent 100m+ kills for a solid 5 minutes
The double barrel rips at range
@@soopespeed Oh, sick! You still play it?
@@crimzonplays1134 I check it out every once in a while, but recently I've been invested in other stuff
Video Games: What's that? Shotguns are only effective at up to 5 meters? Ok!
This show is the only reason I still follow this channel, honestly.
Absolutely love this game, feels like a massive battle every time you play a round.
I saw last time its pretty death :( . it still one of my favo shooters. more than 70kils with svd felt so nicce
I miss Ro2 however, too many automatic guns in Vietnam, still a great game
@@klm20079 Im playing it daily for quite some time. Its not dead at all
@@felkos2412 same. It's definitely at the end of its life cycle, which makes me die a little every time I consider it, but it is still quite alive. What servers do you usually play on?
@@kcrash7150 Yeah Ro2 had a better gameplay experience.
Interestingly, Australia's allies also loved the Owenn Gun. New Zealand troops in the Pacific used it in place of the Thompson and apparently Douglas MacArthur wanted to adopt the Owen Gun in the Pacific instead of the Thompson
Don’t blame them. Haven’t handled an owen but if fired several variants of Thompson and they are heavy, awkward and climb more then a .45 smg should. I have fired and MP40 and an M3 grease gun which are similar in design theory to the Owen (open bolt tube receiver) and both of them were light handy and very controllable and accurate enough to get the job done!
Jonathan should look at Rising Storm 1. There's a lot of unique Japanese weapons (such as the "knee mortar") that don't appear in other games.
And the ability to choose between the Arisaka Type 38 or Type 99.
And Red Orchestra 2 as well
The Ithaca 37 with the engraving is actually pretty common. It's more uncommon to find them without, I've actually seen photos from Vietnam of the guns with this roll stamp type engraving. They just kinda added it to all of the receivers at the factory and built the guns into different configurations to fill orders
Have a high standard pump idk what model and it has some fine engravings
Funnily enough, the version used in Aliens also has the engraving/stamping on it. You can't see it very well in the movie, but in proper photos and other movies the same prop was in you can see it.
The reticle for the ART on the M21 is absolutely spot on. Nice detail.
RS2 is great. I'd love to see his take on Red Orchestra 2 as well, specifically the MG-42 and how it can overheat and require barrel changes.
A correction on the M14. It was the standard US service rifle for 5 years, and has been in service a total of 63 years. It's still used as a designated marksman's rifle and has been since its introduction.
I was thinking the same thing, while it only was the main issued rifle for a while, I have heard plenty of stories of its usage late into Vietnam
@@thewerepyreking it was still used in iraq & afghanistan during the GWOT as a marksman rifle with many of the m14s being issued remaining unaccurized and leftovers from vietnam stock
The M14 rifles also had a gas shut off for the use of rifle grenades, I imagine it could also be used with subsonic ammo and a suppressor, I’ve never seen it done
there's one with suppresor in the game, it's called XM21 which is basically a experimental m14 i think with telescopic mount
@@wavelesstime914 granted, I’ve never played the game, but on a real M14 and M1A (in my case, M305), a single shot function can be achieved by closing the gas port
@@nootz101 Yeah, but why would you even do such a thing? For rifle grenades, it is to prevent the gas system from overpressure, here it is completely harmless.
@@wavelesstime914 Covered in the video as well: 6:15
@@sir0herrbatka you could use it to remove the sound of the bolt cycling
Glad to see you reviewing this game again. It's one of my favourite games not in a small part because of the excellent weapon handling.
I feel like in previous episodes, Jonathan commented more on the actual implementation of the weapons in game like reloads, sights etc. Now he only talks about the history which is still cool but I miss the previous approach.
I agree
Perhaps there wasn't much to complain about and the game was reasonably accurate? I'm sure if the game devs had put lucky charms and gold plate over the weapons then we would have got a rise out of Jonathan.
I think the problem is that he’s basically done nearly all the guns now.
maybe because he don't need comment on that point the game do it itself when it's well done ?
Tbh it was kinda getting to the point where he would see a gun and make the same comment on it that he made on a hundred other guns. Charging handle not right, sights too large, magazine well looks wrong. Focusing on the guns history let's him avoid that.
makes me really happy when they cover this game
especially this video which has some great clips, hopefully it gets some viewers interested in checking the game out as it's one of the best multiplayer shooters I've ever played
An underrated game. I love randomly spraying into a treeline with my M60 and getting three headshots from out of the blue.
Have to admit, you showed the Owen and I was hoping to hear more about the FAL/L1 field version, modifications they made.
Oh well, maybe for next time. Or another video.
11:09 The Owen submachine gun has a more closed receiver compared to STEN guns meaning less mud and other stuff can get into then guns internal mechanism making the Owen more reliable. With the position of the Owen's magazine on top gravity helps the magazine function more reliably again making the gun more reliable. So this is probably the reason why the Owen gun was more popular among the Australian soldiers than the AUSTEN (Australian version of the STEN).
Was part of the reason it was made. Lot of Aussie troops were in situations where mud and dirt would get in their weapons and jam them. The design of the Owen gun stopped that from happening.
I’d like to see a part 2 to Jonathan reacting to Hunt Showdowns guns, especially the Berthier, Martini Henry and Bergmann/Bornheim
Yeah, I think some of the better portrayed guns in the game still weren't shown. One of them being the new Schofield revolver IMO.
Agreed there's enough guns for another go around
Yes! More Hunt Showdown pls
Si.
I'd like to add that in the game, the ithica can be used with slug rounds as well, increasing the range. First time I got killed by one from 115m away I was really confused lol
actually the Ithaca M37 can only use buckshots, it's only the IZH-58 hunting/coach that can use slugs.
@@I_Am_Wasabi_Man gotcha, thanks for that!
Both of my Model 37's have the same duck engraving! It might be crude but I love it
The M16, M14, AK47, and M60 are the guns I always think of with Vietnam. I especially love the M60 and it’s so fun to shoot!
Jonathan should cover Killing Floor 2. It's made by the same company that made Rising Storm 2: Vietnam.
It’d be cool to see a video of weapons that Johnathan thinks are underrepresented in game genres
The Ithaca 37 was also used by Kyle Reese in the Terminator whom was also played by Michael Beihn.
Jonathan is that guy that supplies you with guns and cool gadgets as well as "some experimental suff he's been working on" inbetween missions. Might have to resque him from the bad guys in the second half of the game.
That’s interesting about the subsonic ammo not having the power to cycle the bolt on it’s own. When I saw the clip I assumed that maybe it had a lock for the bolt, kind of like the slide lock on the MK22 hush puppy, to reduce the mechanical report of the action.
Actually I believe for this weapon specifically they could turn off the gas system to accomplish the same goal
@@theultimategamer8537 Correct, you can turn off the gas system on the M1 Garand & M14, it was mainly done for using rifle grenades.
by locking the gas system you probably also get a small boost to the power of the cartridge.
@@no.7893 The amount of extra gas that is not being tapped is so miniscule, the difference is about the same as the inconsistencies from one cartridge to the next.
@@halo7oo Yeah I wouldn't imagine it's much of anything, and the whole point of subsonic ammo is to reduce the power to be rid of the sonic boom so it would be a bit counterproductive anyway.
07:15 A good explanation. I always thought the reason why XM-21 is bolt-action is because the scope is partly blocking the ejection port...
My grandfather was an MP during Vietnam, he loved having a 12 gauge on hand, especially since he was more afraid of the local snake population than the VC/NVA. He had bird shot sent to him for such occasions
I'd love to see Jonathan react to the guns of Killzone 2 or 3, a sci-fi series but the guns (mostly) seem surprisingly down to earth, and I feel like he'd have some fun with it.
This game did something right with scopes. Only the device itself would zoom in, not the entire screen. There's something we don't see in many fps.
Bruh many has it, tarkov, insurgency sandstorm
That feature is called "double render scope" it requires the game to render 2 seperate areas. Most games don't use that feature because it significantly hurts your fps.
@@mateusz_0 Okay. Any more titles that do that apart from those two?
@@ECcR0 Now I know🌈⭐
@@marion_roberts Ready Or Not
Wound love to see Jonathan have a go on Gun Club VR on the Oculus Quest where he can virtually get “hands on” with the firearms and compare the virtual operation to the real life mechanics.
As an amateur historian Jonathan's book is an instant buy for me.
I'm so happy Jonathan has developed an appreciation for videogames ❤️
Interesting tidbit for the SKS as depicted in game. Its possible to dump a partually used magazine, to reload a new clip in through the top, you keep the ammo, but importantly, it does not go back onto a stripper clip. It is entirely possible to reload and shoot all your clipped ammunition, at which point your character will start SINGLE FEEDING ammunition through the top (if you manage to live that long in game)
Game play footage that doesn't drive Jonathan to self medicate is a rarity,10 of 10 would watch again!👍
wouldn't watch this channel if not for Johnathan Ferguson, love his work his media presence and whoever come up with this collaborative series was brilliant for knowledge, the museum, and the channel.
I was literally playing this with a friend last night, great game, great video! Always love to see Johnathan come in and look at these games
I could be wrong (and I'm not the expert, Jonathan is!) but I thought that some (but not all) of the K-50Ms could be used with the 71-round drums just fine, since the early ones were actually just modified Chinese Type 50s, retaining the receiver and barrel, with the wooden stock exchanged for a more 60s appropriate pistol grip and the barrel shroud cut down and folded. I believe the slightly weighty "stock" part of the receiver was there to counterbalance the climb from the high rate of fire, as opposed to Sudayev's fix for removing the wood stock in his PPS which was to drop the bolt cycling rate.
Obviously, this compatibility assumes that the user has extended the wire stock first... but given that the magazine well wasn't modified, so long there was a good fitting drum, less of an issue with Type 50s I believe, there's no reason this wouldn't be the case, right? Given how crude Jonathan claims this one is, perhaps it's a totally domestic made copy, which isn't as accurate and so might exhibit more serious fitting issues with the drum mags?
I am so glad y’all did this , I don’t know if my comments had anything to do with it but I really enjoyed this!
I'm still curious to here his thoughts on the Service Weapon from Control. He's often remarked at scifi game for it'll using outdated tech. Cool to see talk about the reality of something like the service weapon which morphs with its functions. And as someone who's a a gun enthusiast, I'd like to hear him describe what makes different guns function, like shotguns pistols, carbines etc.
My cousin actually bought an SKS with wooden furnishing that like in the game is loaded with a stripper clip. It was from a surplus sale at a gun store and it even had the correct bayonet included. Plus I got to shoot it at a firing range which was fun, so I can at least say there are still some lying around in good working condition as my cousin got one even after so many years since then.
Its not surprising but they actually got the Owen gun the right way round, unlike a certain high budget fps. Kinda surprised Jonathan didn't point it out as it wasn't too long ago since that video came out.
Its my birtthday and I get to see a new episode of Jonathan reacting to video game guns! Thank you!
I find it interesting that this guy is also familiar with the gameplay as well as the gun histroy, optics, and practicality
In the Rhodesian Bush War, several Selous Scout teams came to the conclusion that their suppressed smgs lacked sufficient firepower and opted to rebuild captured AKs with suppressors, and manufacture subsonic ammunition (this required the bolt to be cycled for each shot). One RPD was cut down in size, the stock removed, and a lighter buffer system installed to reliably cycle subsonic rounds. Even though it was unsuppressed, it was allegedly quiet enough to confuse the enemy of its exact position.
As for the early philosophy of the Sks, the Chinese on the other hand manufactured the rifle in large quantities alongside the AK to outfit their large military, and developed the Type 63 (mechanically a hybrid between the two), with detachable 20rd magazines and a full auto selector. The Type 63 was manufactured with better tolerances to act as sort of a Designated Marksman Rifle, but retained the full-auto capability to keep up with AKs in direct assaults.
I've loved this game since it came out. Everything from the map design to the asymmetrical gameplay. I'd say it's also one of the best games when it comes down to gunplay. There are always active servers too!
tell jonathan he's pure class please :))
Fun, just got back to the game yesterday!
I basically plan my Saturday mornings around this show
Why are you supporting right wing gun videos?
I had to check with my ithaca and I can confirm my duck engravings DO in fact have heads albeit hard to see
These videos are the only Gamespot videos I watch
Love the Aussie: "Layin' down suppressive fire" voice line
ah yes the Owen gun, i definitely heard of it before, never realised it was substitute for the Sten. More games should have it, but that said, i didn't realise COD Vanguard has this gun, so mission Accomplished?
West Aussie here.
I think it was more than a Sten substitute. From what I understand our forces were relying on Stens until they eventually tested the Owen against it and a Thompson, and the Owen proved more reliable. The Owen was mostly ignored by the army before then.
WA mentioned, so i gotta appear
There's an interesting video history of it in Forgotten weapons, explaining that the basic design was a kit-bash gun made by Lt. Owen when he was a teenager before joining the military and a neighbor of his who was a relative newcomer to the gun manufacturer industry saw it and decided to try and make it into a functional gun, where it went through a lot of remakes as the Australian government didn't want to give the gun the time of day and made excuses to not have it on weapon trials, until it was decided to actually be allowed on trials wherein the Owen outperformed all the other SMGs, and thereafter it became Australia's and its allies main SMG weapon
Hope they make another Rising Storm 2 video, I wanna hear Jonathan talk about the L1A1 and F1 submachine gun
Been a while since I last played Rising Storm 2, but I think those white gloves in the game are actually part of the base game as a customization option for officers in the vietnamese faction that was being played there. Please correct me if I'm wrong here.
It's a skin from a DLC if I remember correctly. Most players run around in period-correct uniforms
The white gloves had me not gonna lie
Yeah this game is so accurate to the point that they got a retired ARVN to be a consultant and his son voiced all the Vietnamese lines.
@ Jonathan - you need to add that subsonic ammo is basically turns your rifle into a pistol. Consider 220 grain 7.62x51 vs 230 .45 ACP. Subsonic rifle ammo, while much quieter, is also much less accurate and underpowered.
Can Jonathan please do a reaction to Escape From Tarkov's new weapon malfunctions? I would love to hear his input into how accurately Battlestate Games animated and modeled weapon malfunctions!
The ppsh is a wicked gun no matter what the caliber is very clever i think
The SKS seems almost like a Mosin 2.0. In that it was a generation behind for much of its history. But it was cheap enough, and enough of them existed, that they turned up everywhere any group of people needed a big pile of guns for the next 70 or so years after it was deemed inadequate.
Krag Jorgensen is a Norwegian rifle that was used during the Spanish American 1898 war.I was always told that was our shortest used rifle .Side note Teddy Rosevelt went up Kettle Hill.
It is, because the M14 would come back and see use once again and is still in use by marksman to this very day.
If only this show could be twice a week. I go on TH-cam always disappointed that I have x days to go until another Jonathan video
It would be very interesting to see Jonathan react to the mil-sim game Onward VR. I believe they only add guns that are in use right now, and they have accurate(?) gun models.
accurate-ish, but yeah. they're pretty low poly nowadays. they do have the Ak5 though, which is cool
the RPD wasn't replaced by PK machine gun as squad machine gun but by the RPK , PK was starting to be implemented into squad only in afghanistan and even then it was rarely part of the squad but more like an attached support element
This man can make anything interesting!
Red orchestra series next!
I can’t get over him saying “North Vietnaman” instead of “North Vietnamese” when he got ahold of a K-50
I am once again asking for Jonathan to review Payday 2.
"Australia represent!" Owen Gun ("Digger's Darling" to some) was rejected originally by the Aussie Army who were relying on Sten guns however before his deployment to the Middle East he spoke to a local Lysaght steel plant manager. The company took interest in the design after conducting tests in September 1941 the gun was found to be more accurate and reliable than the Sten and Thompson designs available and production began.
Good to see Jonathan is still the most viewed thing on this channel
Jonathan is a gem of a human beeing and his work has to be protectet at all cost.
With the Ithaca engraving; most guns are engraved with the animal youre going to shoot with the gun BEFORE you shoot them. The Ithaca is engraved with the animal AFTER.
him holding the mas39 is like a taunt at Ian over a forgotten weapons a swear "look what i got"
Would love to see Jonathon’s opinion on Ready or not, the gunplay in the game is excellent and the modelling/sound effects are gorgeous!
Interesting that this series is delving more into the history of firearms than a expert reacting to their implementation in video games
Jonathan can read classic story from England and i will paid for hear them at tea time.
Idk, having fired an SKS, I'm glad they made them. It has a feel in the kick similar to a bolt action rifle like the Einfield when you fire it, but has much better control and ROF. I also personally find the sighting on it to be very intuitive. And the clunky beast just looks mean.
Please show Jonathan more Battlefield 1 guns, so many interesting weapons he didn’t cover:
-Lewis Gun
-M1903 with Pederson Device
-Steyr Hahn Machine Pistol
-Howell Rifle
-RSC1917
-MG14/17 Parabellum
And so many more!
4:43 I'm sure shotguns are effective way past 50 meters. The steel pellets might not be as tightly grouped as on a target 25-50 meters away, but those pellets aren't stopping on their own for at least 400 yards when fired from a 12 gauge shotgun. But you might be referencing the in game effectiveness here, which I would believe, because video games and film/television always underestimate or downplay the range of shotgun rounds.
pellets lose all accuracy and any real steam past 300 yards. if youre using slugs they could definitely be lethal but youd be almost mortaring them in, and praying they hit what you aim at
Bead sights are crude and point shooting is limited to 50 metres
Depend on ammo used..
The range in the game where the shotgun remains useful is definitely over 50 metres, ive gotten kills with it above 90m, although it is always a bit of a surprise. I think the pellets are simulated reasonably well.
Shotguns in RS2 are pretty accurate to real life. Even if the probability of those pellets hitting drops by the distance they will still be travelling quite a bit, it all comes down to luck. Slugs function as they should too
I remember getting 75 Meter shots with the Ithaca, and The Pre-Patch Double barrel could hit up to like...200 Meters?
Someone else probably already said it but the white gloves are only worn in-game Vietnamese officers.
Jonathan nailing everything again.
Hear me out imagine if Jonathan made a gaming channel played whatever games he likes or is recommended and during or at the end of the video he talks about the type of weapons used and compare them to ones today or in the past
You should revisit Escape From Tarkov. They recently added a few new guns, including the SCAR, as well as expanding the malfunctions and adding overheating to weapons.
That's what I am looking forward to. New weapons and, attachments and malfunction, so would love for him to take a look again
I love how the narrator pronounces vietnam in the beginning. the long a is great
Jonathan must look at Battlefield Hardline sometime! Has a very unique assortment of exotic weapons, old and new
this man is the only thing keeping gamespot floating
I'd love to see Johnathan have a look at the guns in Devil May Cry 5. Particularly the Blue Rose, since according to the codex it fires two shots at once.
White Gloves should be called Jonathan Ferguson DLC from now on
Idk why, but I remember my dad, who was a tank commander of a T-54/55, was always saying that RPD was better than the PK machinegun.
The moment I saw the canted sights on that smg I knew it was an owen gun. I love how they look
My uncle served in Vietnam. He qualified with the M14. When he was assigned to an operational unit. The the Army took the M14 and issued him an M16. To this day he says he felt robbed.
you guys should have him react to the weapons in Killing Floor 2, there's some really interesting stuff in there
I wanna see him look at red orchestra 2/rising storm 1 And the various weapon upgrades too! Would love to see his comments on the mp40 dual mag and mkb with the optic or the japanese scoped machine guns
Johnathon for the win again. I could listen to this guy all day long.