@@yeetimusputimus1985 Actually, the Cherokee wasn't in the same class as the Bronco. They downsized, putting them in a head to head SUV war with the Ford Explorer, where the Explorer then outsold the whole SUV market by near double standards, and are still doing it to this day!
Major difference here is that the person driving in the bronco knows how to drive and the person in the Jeep has no idea what they’re doing. Both of those vehicles are about equally capable of going anywhere the other can go. You would be hard-pressed to find some thing that one could do that the other couldn’t. Get whichever one you prefer and you’ll have a great time off road.
Right tires are your very best friend and knowing the right air pressure in your tires for sand too! Had a 1977 cj5 with a Chevy 400 ci engine and auto tranny. I could come to a complete stop at the very bottom edge of the bowl at Sand Lake, Oregon and put the pedal to the metal and go right over the top of the bowl no problem ever. Not many vehicles could do that. Most needed a good run to get over the top.
@@liranhassin4141How ya know its Isreal? If so, you're correct. Doesn't sound or look like great country of Isreal to me. Love that Bronco tho can't beat em 💯👍🏻
For starters, you would need a jeep, Rubicon, 392 for an equal comparison of power. Then you would need to go up the same trail, and hit it at the same speed then it would be comparable.
There’s no wrangler with as advanced a suspension package on it to truly compare. I really do like the Wrangler 392 mind you, with the Extreme Recon package,, nice Jeep. Right from the factory.
@@shitloveaduck different tools for different jobs. The wrangler doesn't have an "advanced " suspension because IFS can't hold a candle to solid axles when it comes to the rocks.
I messed up with that comment. I really meant to say solid axels rule in the rocks, the amount of articulation you can achieve with a solid axel vs IFS is significantly better. It was a typo in my head. I was meaning to agree that a Jeep will be better in the rocks than a Bronco. It’s just physics. I will be deleting my incorrect statement. Sorry about that. I have owned both, prefer trucks, when I was able to play hard off-road. I preferred high speed prairie trails in the foothills vs rock crawling. I gravitated towards the F150 Raptors, naturally. If i was going rock crawling I had several short box C10s that were modified to different levels. I have the advantage of access to private trails that were created for & by full size trucks. I did try to get into the Gladiator Mojave and it’s just not a great high speed truck on the prairie trails. The Solid axel has a shortcoming there,,, heh heh. Can’t ever truly have both. I have arthritis in my lumbar and lower thoracic and so the pounding that can happen, playing either way, is just too much now. I drive a 2022 F150 Tremor with a very new Fox 2.5 remote reservoir suspension added to make it a softer riding truck than it was even before. Life is a definite equalizer sometimes. I go down fishing trails and still travel a lot of the two track prairie trails, but much slower than before,,,, haha. I hope your evening is going well.
The performance of the car has to be also with the ability of the driver. You cannot say automatically that the Bronco is better than the Jeep on this. The driver ability and assertiveness plays an important role.
Although I'm a ford raptor fan , I still think that is not a fair comparison unless they both took the same line . Don't get me wrong, I think the put come would have been the same, but that would only make fair and would not leave any room for excuses
Bro that Bronco is like $100k+ 😂. This is like comparing a dirt bike to a Huffy. Ain’t nothing wrong with that Huffy. You put another $50k into that thing and it’ll whoop that overpriced dirt bike’s ass.
Set 31” mud terrain tires to 10psi and a 30yr old 4cyl Toyota pickup could do this. Hit the bottom in 3rd gear in LOW doing about 25 and no prob. Prob launch it.
The 392 will crush the braptor all day. Solid axles and a Hemi for the win. Sounds better and looks better too. Not to mention the second the middle path looked steeper and at the end of the jeeps run it didn’t look like his rear was locked either. I’d bet on my 392 any day
@@Hunter-nb5bj oh really? Wow didn’t know. but I believe I was replying to a comment that said “no jeep is touching the bronco off-roading” it didn’t say no jeep is touching a bronco dune running. Fill yourself in before commenting
th-cam.com/video/9X4fau-5WzM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IetQ06aHcv2ntuQB keep talking the bronco was already had speed before actually going up the jeep was at a complete stop
The worst Jeep driver ever, you can see the revs on the Bronco vs the revs on the jeep, jeep was almost idle on 4 high, it must be 4 low with all lockes engaged, sway bar disconnected and and full throttle.
The Jeep tried climbing a different area of the hill. Based on the fact that it wasn’t as rounded off at the top of the Jeeps path, it’s safe to assume fewer people had succeeded there. So the Bronco took the easy path.😏
but if you look the top of the bronco's path was higher... so, did it? that 3.0 turbo just out muscles that Jeep six, get's more speed and carries more momentum up the hill. The Jeep also sounds like it's geared for rock crawling.
Yes 3 liter turbo. Same engine that is in the explorer st. 400 hp but I think it might be tuned differently for the bronco raptor and make more power, not positive on that.
Obviously th Ford had a running start. The Jeep tried to take the hill from a dead stop at the foot of the hill. That little bit of extra momentum helps. Plus his RPMs were higher at the foot of the hill, thus having more torque at the begging of the climb.
The only thing that the bronco is better than the jeep at and I'm talking about the raptor bronco because that's the only one worth mentioning is flat out desert racing with the ifs. Jeep is still king and I've heard that from actual bronco owners. I do love ford especially the coyote engine but the bronco is a flop compared to the new 392 anniversary wrangler.
@@savularity9121worst take I’ve ever seen. Wranglers have HORRIBLE engines that need repaired or replaced quite often. I own a Raptor and my dads owned a wrangler before…the two aren’t even remotely comparable
@@dominicbaptist obviously that's mostly true but I was talking to the people that liked to make comments about something they know very little about and most have never even seen or driven these vehicles. They get their knowledge from the opinion of others.
@@savularity9121 true true I just personally think Jeeps are nowhere near as well made as Bronco raptors. My Raptor would absolutely demolish any Jeep😂 and it better cause it cost me $112,000 which is more than any Jeep would ever cost too
Agreed, also if the tie rods didn't snap like toothpicks. Hard to believe after all the trouble with the Bronco's tierods that ford didn't beef them up in the raptor R. Seen two different trucks break them and one was just on loose gravel climbing a small hill. Seems lots of people on the interwebs have also been having problems the new raptor r.
Jeep just has to take more of a run up to it like the Bronchitis did . Solid axle Jeep is better off road period. The B#$&cos are breaking like crazy on the Trails due to the naturally weak and inferior ifs of the Bronchitis .
If any the Bronco took the hard one. The Jeep owner knew he couldn't follow the Bronco. That was what you call a foreplay run, but he didn't get'er wet so isn't gonna get the real joy.
@nick a well good catch since I misspelled the word. Okay there was a game but that jeep lost that game lol Maybe they needed the other wrangler to come in with a bigger engine to beat the bronco. Nothing personal.
Link To Full Video:
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Still makes a legendary commercial
@@guysumpthin2974 hell yeah, you still can't sleep on the bronco even if it gets outdone by late 90s cherokees.
Links do not work on TH-cam
@@hakenkreuz7076 works fine
@@yeetimusputimus1985 Actually, the Cherokee wasn't in the same class as the Bronco. They downsized, putting them in a head to head SUV war with the Ford Explorer, where the Explorer then outsold the whole SUV market by near double standards, and are still doing it to this day!
Kinda hard to compare if they don’t take the same line.
And the line the bronco took won't be the same after he ripped it to shit. Jeep still shit the bed.
Bingo
The driver shit the bed.
@@marklee6538 😂
It's also a bronco raptor which much more expensive than a wrangler
Major difference here is that the person driving in the bronco knows how to drive and the person in the Jeep has no idea what they’re doing. Both of those vehicles are about equally capable of going anywhere the other can go. You would be hard-pressed to find some thing that one could do that the other couldn’t. Get whichever one you prefer and you’ll have a great time off road.
Straight facts!
Both capable, for sure. But only Bronco has on and off road ride quality. Smoooooth
Fr they're both among the best you can get and people wanna argue while they probably drive a 500$ shitbox that falls apart every camping trip 😂
I favor the Bronco more, but I agree with you. Skill of the driver as both of these are capable of performing on the incline
I like them both, but the Jeep is going to be a little better off road and bronco is better on the road..
Definitely the driver 😂
Bingo!
Uhh Yea!
That’s a bronco raptor, should have put it up against the hemi wrangler
When hill climbing in the sand... Speed is your friend !
Right tires are your very best friend and knowing the right air pressure in your tires for sand too!
Had a 1977 cj5 with a Chevy 400 ci engine and auto tranny. I could come to a complete stop at the very bottom edge of the bowl at Sand Lake, Oregon and put the pedal to the metal and go right over the top of the bowl no problem ever. Not many vehicles could do that. Most needed a good run to get over the top.
horse power won that climb,Jeep petered out halfway.
speed on such angle will result in hitting the start of the hill making it harder to climb.
I’m going for the 25 year old Suzuki
I’m going for the horse.
@@phantom0456 😂
Right? They're afraid to show the videos of the little suzukis beating the bigger 4x4s
My Toyota fj40 takes a big poop on all of these plastic soyboy barbie cars.
I was gonna say “how’d the samurai do though?”
The Jeep looks like he had a long day and don’t even wanna try
When you actually own a Jeep everyday is a bad day
@@lancemannion4113one like that’s how timorous you sound
@@mdegaming1706speak English please
You Dodge guys just can't admit defeat to your junk jeeps that break down at 40k miles 😂 get over it the bronco is superior in so many ways
I bet the guy on the horse would make it up the hill no problem
Ya but how many horsepower does he have?
@@elgato7824 15.
Having been around silver lake sand dunes in my 78 bronco and having been raised around horses that would not be an easy hill for a horse and rider.
And with just one horsepower 😂
Negative
All these guys own at least 1 oil field
No oil fields in Israel
🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha 😆! 💯
@@liranhassin4141How ya know its Isreal? If so, you're correct. Doesn't sound or look like great country of Isreal to me. Love that Bronco tho can't beat em 💯👍🏻
They burn more cash for fun in a month than I can save in a lifetime.
For starters, you would need a jeep, Rubicon, 392 for an equal comparison of power. Then you would need to go up the same trail, and hit it at the same speed then it would be comparable.
There’s no wrangler with as advanced a suspension package on it to truly compare. I really do like the Wrangler 392 mind you, with the Extreme Recon package,, nice Jeep. Right from the factory.
@@shitloveaduck different tools for different jobs. The wrangler doesn't have an "advanced " suspension because IFS can't hold a candle to solid axles when it comes to the rocks.
@@JasonParham83 - IFS in the rocks definitely wins!
Edit: should have read, Solid axels in the rocks definitely wins. Oops,,, haha.
@@shitloveaduckquite the opposite actually
I messed up with that comment. I really meant to say solid axels rule in the rocks, the amount of articulation you can achieve with a solid axel vs IFS is significantly better. It was a typo in my head. I was meaning to agree that a Jeep will be better in the rocks than a Bronco. It’s just physics. I will be deleting my incorrect statement. Sorry about that.
I have owned both, prefer trucks, when I was able to play hard off-road. I preferred high speed prairie trails in the foothills vs rock crawling. I gravitated towards the F150 Raptors, naturally. If i was going rock crawling I had several short box C10s that were modified to different levels. I have the advantage of access to private trails that were created for & by full size trucks. I did try to get into the Gladiator Mojave and it’s just not a great high speed truck on the prairie trails. The Solid axel has a shortcoming there,,, heh heh. Can’t ever truly have both. I have arthritis in my lumbar and lower thoracic and so the pounding that can happen, playing either way, is just too much now. I drive a 2022 F150 Tremor with a very new Fox 2.5 remote reservoir suspension added to make it a softer riding truck than it was even before. Life is a definite equalizer sometimes. I go down fishing trails and still travel a lot of the two track prairie trails, but much slower than before,,,, haha.
I hope your evening is going well.
I'm not a fan of Fords, but that Bronco Raptor is pretty nice.
Way overpriced.
F-150/2011/NO REPAIRS/300K MILES💪💯💪
B U I L T. F O R D. T O U G H.
@@ericortega1745you are right, so buy the equally as capable big bend base version for 35k lol
Driver error lmao both are great rigs
Sure....
Jeep is not 392 ,
That's junk
Not enough HP
That Ford isn't even gonna make it to 100K
That wasn't the 392 that's for sure
You don't need a v8 for this... Bronco is a turbo 6
@@taurussho86 you need power to climb and the Ford turbo v6 has 400 plus H.P while the jeep V6 has 275
@@Ken-qq6gp and that's still enough to climb this
@@Ken-qq6gp and for one, you're looking at torque, not HP
Wait so you need $95k to climb that hill vs $71k? 😂 Little bit of a difference there.
Where’s the Suzuki Samurai!? He would’ve crushed them all!
Naaaahh
Especially that plastic bronco. Lol
Yeah, rolling back down the hill over you
The performance of the car has to be also with the ability of the driver. You cannot say automatically that the Bronco is better than the Jeep on this. The driver ability and assertiveness plays an important role.
This video doesnt show the camparsion of ford vs jeep. Just driver vs driver.
Its always driver vs driver
Jeep doesn't have enough power to pull it self up. The bronco raptor does. Its nearly a 200hp difference
There's a Subaru Forester driver out there somewhere watching this and laughing.
You know it. 😎
its a subaru tho queer mobiled
@@mimioize1634 Ford too...
@@mimioize1634 oh the horror! The horror! 🤣
then the guy in the forester drops it in reverse and backs up the hill.
Driver skills, speed, momentum, tyres, tyre pressure all factors
The dope part is how it came back down...🤯🤯🤯
Although I'm a ford raptor fan , I still think that is not a fair comparison unless they both took the same line . Don't get me wrong, I think the put come would have been the same, but that would only make fair and would not leave any room for excuses
Bro that Bronco is like $100k+ 😂. This is like comparing a dirt bike to a Huffy. Ain’t nothing wrong with that Huffy. You put another $50k into that thing and it’ll whoop that overpriced dirt bike’s ass.
Well said.....truth/ preach
Set 31” mud terrain tires to 10psi and a 30yr old 4cyl Toyota pickup could do this.
Hit the bottom in 3rd gear in LOW doing about 25 and no prob. Prob launch it.
The Subaru Forester is still looking for that hill
Ford bronco, jeep wrangler, mercedes benz G, land cruiser, land rover defender or hummer
More like a driver issue here
Try a jeep 4xe or 392 with a better line and faster run up and the story would be very different
To be fair a 392 came afterwards and just crushed it with 38 psi in the tires...
No jeep is touching the bronco off roading
@that guy IFS will never be a match for straight axle, if you think otherwise you’ve never been
off-roading.
The 392 will crush the braptor all day. Solid axles and a Hemi for the win. Sounds better and looks better too. Not to mention the second the middle path looked steeper and at the end of the jeeps run it didn’t look like his rear was locked either. I’d bet on my 392 any day
@@austaust9565 for rock crawling yes but not for “Baja” style dune running or high speed trails. There are different kinds of off-roading
@@Hunter-nb5bj oh really? Wow didn’t know. but I believe I was replying to a comment that said “no jeep is touching the bronco off-roading” it didn’t say no jeep is touching a bronco dune running. Fill yourself in before commenting
Well the bronco advertised at being able to beat the jeep on the rubicon. Take em there.
Broncos suck😂
Those horses would make it up that hill before that wrangler.
The kid on the scooter too
th-cam.com/video/9X4fau-5WzM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IetQ06aHcv2ntuQB keep talking the bronco was already had speed before actually going up the jeep was at a complete stop
Dam that brunco really smashed that jeep 😂😂😂😂
I saw the guy on the horse line up and was like he's bout to handle that climb like a boss
Just wondering IF a Camel could make it up ,🤔
Alot of this is the driver ,
You can clearly tell that the bronco took an easier line than the Jeep. The Jeep line was more vertical.
The worst Jeep driver ever, you can see the revs on the Bronco vs the revs on the jeep, jeep was almost idle on 4 high, it must be 4 low with all lockes engaged, sway bar disconnected and and full throttle.
Yes not a good driver..
Think about that though... the BRaptor just crushed it but you have to engage and disengage all that shit just for the Jeep to work!?.... sad
@@BrooklynNY1979 Bronco Raptor is a BEAST!
Guy heard Broncos were showing up, so he took his horse.
Everyone’s favorite 4 wheeling music!
The Jeep tried climbing a different area of the hill. Based on the fact that it wasn’t as rounded off at the top of the Jeeps path, it’s safe to assume fewer people had succeeded there. So the Bronco took the easy path.😏
but if you look the top of the bronco's path was higher... so, did it? that 3.0 turbo just out muscles that Jeep six, get's more speed and carries more momentum up the hill. The Jeep also sounds like it's geared for rock crawling.
@@Steve-yr5vi 3.0?
Yes 3 liter turbo. Same engine that is in the explorer st. 400 hp but I think it might be tuned differently for the bronco raptor and make more power, not positive on that.
Jeep might have bottomed out too.
Lol...ok
same line? same type of tire and pressure? same weight? it's not a this v.s. that people
The new bronco raptor is impressive regardless if anybody is a fan or not. I've seen them in action personally.
I'ma ford man ,my buddy is a jeep man one is as good as the other, driver gotta a lot to do with it
2001 dodge 2500 cummins diesel all day long.
As the weight of that front end digs in....yeah right.
Hahahaha. Diesels are shit. They are pavement pounders. Torque monsters for pulling boats to go salmon fishing.
Dodge 2500 with 700hp even can't climb that
Me watching with my overlander 4runner 🥱
As always Built Ford Tough
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That was two different routes! You can't compare vehicles taking different lines bro
That's what I was thinking 🤔
And when the jeep still gets embarrassed, then the excuse will be 'but they weren't running the same tires', whaaaa, whaaaa, whaaa.
مستمتعين بالقيادة وأنا تركيزي على الخيل. 😂
Obviously th Ford had a running start. The Jeep tried to take the hill from a dead stop at the foot of the hill. That little bit of extra momentum helps. Plus his RPMs were higher at the foot of the hill, thus having more torque at the begging of the climb.
The ford is also 3X the power
The person driving the Jeep belongs in a Kia 🤦🏽♂️
It's all on the driver some better as we can see.
the actual horses was cool af. anyone else too scared and broke to do this with theirs?
Guy in the jeep lost his balls, he was scared to even ATTEMPT to go up the embankment......He's FIRED!!!
💋........ SHAMEFUL....Baby boys playing in a sandbox with their toys.
This is a friggin Chad convention
Lol pretty sure this is the middle east or Mexico by the foreign vehicles in the shot.
So we're comparing a RAPTOR engine (building up speed) with a V6 w/o? 🙄🤦🏻♂️ ... the internet geniuses.
Ford all the way best hands down!!❤
The only thing that the bronco is better than the jeep at and I'm talking about the raptor bronco because that's the only one worth mentioning is flat out desert racing with the ifs. Jeep is still king and I've heard that from actual bronco owners. I do love ford especially the coyote engine but the bronco is a flop compared to the new 392 anniversary wrangler.
@@savularity9121worst take I’ve ever seen. Wranglers have HORRIBLE engines that need repaired or replaced quite often. I own a Raptor and my dads owned a wrangler before…the two aren’t even remotely comparable
@@dominicbaptist obviously that's mostly true but I was talking to the people that liked to make comments about something they know very little about and most have never even seen or driven these vehicles. They get their knowledge from the opinion of others.
@@savularity9121 true true I just personally think Jeeps are nowhere near as well made as Bronco raptors. My Raptor would absolutely demolish any Jeep😂 and it better cause it cost me $112,000 which is more than any Jeep would ever cost too
@@savularity9121 I show my Bronco on my TH-cam channel if u ever wanna check it out
He trying to rock crawl in the sand, so lame
Driver hesitated when climbing.
💥Intentionally making the Jeep look bad. They took two different lines up and the Bronco had a longer head start
You keep the Jeep and bronco, give me the tracker with a solid axle .
This is what rednecks that work at McDonald’s say.
hell yes, those trackers are monsters
XJ allday!!
@@Timpe_Speed_and_Marine I have a Grand Vitara in my country its the same as Tracker and its a strong little Suv
@@rexracer7192 Uh oh, it's XJ Chad again!!!🤣🤣🤣
Great camera work. Pan away just as buddy is coming back down towards the other rig. Lol!!!
Lmao, i was thinking that too
They have everything from 2022-1922 🐎
Ha typical jeep. Can't perform. Trying to follow in the Bronco's footsteps.
I'd rather go by horse
What’s up with that guy who took his horse to the sand dunes
Those horses 🐎 are the best four-wheel-drive’s out there
much better bronco raptor than jeeps 😂😂😂
tire pressure.
And a 392 you know the one in the raptors class that beat it in a drag race lol did easy af right after
Horse FTW!!! The four legged kind there, not the one merely named after a horse/dinosaur.
The right kind of Tires play a big part in this.
My guess is the horses beat them all
THE REAL BRONCO 🐎
shouldnt you be comparing the 392 wrangler?
Bro the raptor would’ve been perfect if they didn’t have those giant fenders that like flow into the bumpers😭
It’s a stupid Highway safety requirement, once you own one just mod it however you like. Problem solved.
@@AnarchyThirtySeven we cant modify the car at all!!!
U are lucky if u can in your country!
Agreed, also if the tie rods didn't snap like toothpicks. Hard to believe after all the trouble with the Bronco's tierods that ford didn't beef them up in the raptor R. Seen two different trucks break them and one was just on loose gravel climbing a small hill. Seems lots of people on the interwebs have also been having problems the new raptor r.
Yeah wish they would have molded the fenders kinda like the dude at town and country ford did, looks sharp
Comparison should be Raptor v Mojave. My mojave would rock the shit out of that hill.
It’s all about the tires!
Jeep just has to take more of a run up to it like the Bronchitis did . Solid axle Jeep is better off road period. The B#$&cos are breaking like crazy on the
Trails due to the naturally weak and inferior ifs of the Bronchitis .
Both went into limp mode on the way home
Going limp is a common problem among Ford owners.
yeah but they had fun!! your fun is trolling comment sections with nothing good to say! lmao
Strong car my friend sending full support from Indonesia 🇮🇩
Don’t blame the car, blame the driver. That Bronco will never outperform the Jeep.
I have said it before and i'll say in again...
Its always driver vs driver before u blame the car blame the driver.
Yea they crush the Jeep in a Baja run . Absoultly .. and it is not even funny.
Jeeps would be cool if they were 20 years behind in engine and tranny tech. Such a wasted platform
Jeeps are garbage.
For God sake jeep needs to be bought by someone other then Dodge
Not the same power, or line.... doesn't count. The bronco also got a running start
Bronco > Jeep
I had two of the early Broncos and love them they went really well I say the Broncos smoke the Jeep bad
Those horses can literally walk that hill with ease
The Jeep wranglers not even trying to climb the Hill
Nice short hill........
Where's the G Wagon?
Anymore gimmicks?
Sounds like a horse power issue NA 6 vs turbo ford
No
@@warrenmcelroy4718 absolutely and torque curve. The Bronco will make way more power down low and launch way easier.
@@danielsmith7935 that jeep obviously had plenty of power because it was spinning all the tires throwing sand, this was a traction issue.
Lolnow do the 392 Wrangler.
Good to see Merica spread across the globe 👍🤙🤘
Absolutely 💯 We build best off rders out there / most popular as well for good reason.👍🏻 Keep it American!
🇺🇸 Hell Yeah it is! #AmericaFirst all day long!
Kinda looks like the Jeep was in four low, just didn’t have the momentum
I would have LOVED to see one of the horses just walk up that hill lol
You MEAN HORRENDOUS jeep DRIVER vs GOOD bronco DRIVER
The RAPTOR IS A BEAST!
392 is more of a beast
@@willreed6155 nice opinion
Como contesto 1 vez 1 Ingeniero d la Naza, pongan Potencia a 1 ladrillo y va a llegar adonde quieran, Que Opinan ???
Two different lines bronco took the easy one
If any the Bronco took the hard one. The Jeep owner knew he couldn't follow the Bronco. That was what you call a foreplay run, but he didn't get'er wet so isn't gonna get the real joy.
Ehhhhhh...idk bout that😂
It's the wrangler's turn, "boring, oh what's over here..."
Can definitely tell the difference in the paths ! 😂
I think the Jeep got the loose side !!
And that bronco sounded like it was on steroids and the Jeep like it had been neutered
That bronco was like I came here to take back my thrown😂😂😂😂
Come on, man. That word was simple.
@nick a lmao so what should I have used then. Give me your version.
@@macho.3088, *throne. There was a game of them.
@@macho.3088, *throne. There was a game of them.
@nick a well good catch since I misspelled the word. Okay there was a game but that jeep lost that game lol Maybe they needed the other wrangler to come in with a bigger engine to beat the bronco. Nothing personal.
Yeah a better comparison would be against a JL 392. Then there’s no comparison!