Strong lofted irons with a difference?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ย. 2024
- WE ALL NOW ABOUT TITLEIST, TAYLORMADE, PING, CALLAWAY IRONS BUT WHAT ABOUT HONMA?
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The strong loft high launch golf club, is aimed at in the past a certain golfers. Now these products are so good, many golfers are trying them and using them, It's just technology and happens in every sport. I really don't see a problem. Great review thanks for your efforts.
Great review & good to hear an explanation about strong lofts & the leap in irons technology which is why stronger loft is necessary. “Power Bats”/ “Game improvement” will soon disappear from general golfing vocabulary.....& if you hit further than you did before with a 7, learn & use an 8.......
Thanks Martyn, I think me and you have been of the same opinion for some time
Good review Andy ,for people that don't hit the ball that far ,they can always say they are using a 7 iron but at 28 degrees they are not really.No ones really re designing new longer irons ,they are just moving the numbers around on the sole of the club .
Dont think we will ever change your mind Mike 😂
@@TheAverageGolfer No sorry Andy andy a 28.5 club is not a 7 iron ,mine is 34 and stops great on greens ( when I hit them ) 28.5 will have lots less spin too ,it just has too .
Great review Andy. Really enjoy your presentation and style, seems effortless, yet quite informative and entertaining.
dave palmerton thank you Dave
Totally agree on the look and that they should have just chromed it out. It does cheapen the look and make it look like a game improvement iron. Great review as always.
Biggest issue as far as I'm concerned is gapping with strong lofted irons. With a 170+ carry on a 7 iron, with 12 yard gaps, your wedge is going 136, your lob wedge, to keep gaps needs to go 100. So anything under 100 yards means a manufactered shot. And we can't hit lob wedges 100 yards so there's going to be some big gaps. I don't need a 7 iron that goes as far as my 5 - I have a 5 iron for that.
Can I ask then what club do you hit when you have 40 yds in? 50 yds in? 75 yds in?
There's always gapping problems, you always need to be able to play half shots and 3/4 shots.
I play my 50 degree wedge at 110 yds down to about 40 yds.
But depending on the flight and spin I want, I might use my 46 degree for 40 yds, or my 60 degree for 80 yds.
I don't know many average golfers that complain of hitting a 170+ 7 iron cos they can't gap low down. Most people at my course only hit 7i about 120 anyway! OAPs
To be honest Ian anything under a 100yds needs a manufactured shot anyway, does it not? We dont need to hit full wedges for every yardage do we? I would also be interested in your comparable launch angles 7 iton/5 iron
That sounds about right, I cannot get 170 yards from my 7i but not far short and I hit my LW 95-100 yards. The reality is that I would very rarely want to hit a full LW so everything from just over 100 yards and below is a partial wedge
@@TheAverageGolfer Not really,I'm good with a sand wedge under 100yds full swing or 54% or 60%,got the ping700 no way can I full swing them.
Beautiful setting.... and I might add that your striking the ball really well atm....
First time that the strong loft argument has been explained clearly. Thanks.
With these stronger lofted irons I would love to see your distances with the higher lofted irons, just curious if they do create any gaping issues.
Thanks as usual Andy another amazing video in a beautiful place 😍
I think its a 145 PW, I am not a full shot wedge player so doesnt bother me too much but not for everyone
Nice job And.I took an APex 19 7 iron on course the other day and it went as far as my 5 iron perhaps I could try some power bats...But if I`m honest I`m tempted to get the PXG you have...I would like to see another review from you on those......A sort of now your through the honeymoon period and have had more time with them.
Cheers Gary, I honestly think 30* & irons will be the norm moving forward and the Apex 19 are a great example of a really playable iron. I like the idea of the video on the PXG's and something I will definitely do
@@TheAverageGolferBrilliant I will look forward to that
Andy when I sold Howson Hippo and Nicklaus clubs in Europe Honma and Maruman were big in the markets where golf was still a snob sport ie France Germany and Italy and Switzerland ,I am talking about the years from 1990 to 2000.They were the PXG of today for sure
Yes I only recall the 'Gold' set of Honmas!
Completely agree with Andy about the low spin rate not being as big an issue as many make it out to be. Peak height and descent angle are just as important, maybe more important for stopping on greens.
What the TH-cam club reviewers often forget about is that golf is played outdoors where there is frequently this thing called wind! Back spin and win make for very variable distances, much more so than low spinning irons. I played today (my i210s spin in the "normal" range compared to the low spin Honma's) in a 15 mph wind, down wind my 9i could fly 170-175 yards, into wind I was struggling to hit the green from 160 yards with a 5i.
Yes thats reality and not confined to the sterile environment of a driving range, there are so many variables that impact on performance out there on the course but we seem to be 'spin' obsessed Justin, nice comments
I enjoy your reviews, especially on course. You also tested the Ping i210's on course. You seem to really like both, and so do I in the local shop. Now I'm torn between the i210's and the Honmas - different clubs for sure. Any thoughts on differences or similarities out on the course and do they make you play a different style of game?
Great review- love seeing them tried and commented upon out on the course. Cheers
I am enjoying testing on course
The backdrop makes you want to pick up your golf bag and get to Wales
I hope so, play Conwy its a great course!
Great review! How would you compare this to the TM Sim Max?
Andy, your swing is looking wonderful! Great review on Honma. Cost prohibitive but looks like they play well!
Must have been a good day! Yes they are on the expensive side
Looks like your hitting it well Andy , course looks brill 👍😁
Hi Andy, how do they perform against the epic forged you tried a few days ago ? Which kind of golfer will benefit these type of irons ( average club speed, age ?)
Thank’s
Yann
Hi Yann, quite a different look at address, Epic have more bulk which will appeal to some and not all, performance was similar, as for benefit, I think they would both appeal to a wide range of golfers
The Average Golfer thank’s a lot. Keep going with your great videos.
@@yannthefox4069 Thank you
Great video Andy once again. I agree with some of the other comments...your swing is looking fantastic. What do you think of these irons...worth getting? For me im already trying to adjust with having stronger lofts in my irons without chopping and changing...yeah i know thats boring but i have enough to think about during a round without different yardages because ive changed clubs. You picked a fine day to be out there...not jealous!
Must have been a good day Peter! No I think if your clubs are doing a job you should never change but for anyone looking for new irons I would put these on the list
Its a great club but most people will never know at the price. They have a much cheaper line also but doesnt pact the technology into those. Justin rose has made people aware of them that's probably why they signed him. However ; the price is way out of line for most in the UK and US
Nice review again Sir...Really enjoying the on course Videos! 🍻
Thank you Mark
Solid review mate, look like a good all rounders club. In the current market, they're not as pricey as a lot of the more we'll known brands latest releases!
I think thats a good assessment Jay, they do tick a of of boxes and from what I hear a few releases coming up shortly are all in this price bracket
@@TheAverageGolfer I'm not suggesting this is by any means a cheap set or good value. Or that I agree with the way pricing is going.
Just that for what is typically an expensive brand, they're actually cheaper than plenty of "normal" brands.
@@jaybyrne4562 Yeah I reckon £1000 is going to be a reg set of irons
When I first read the headlines Andy I thought it was a spelling mistake and he was going to be driving around in a CRV. Numbers and lofts are irrelevance in todays clubs. Purchase should be made on launch, spin, decent angle and gapping, especially gapping to ensure you don't end up with half a dozen wedges in the bag. We need to get over our egos of hitting a 7 iron 200 yards.
I agree with the comment to a degree.....do you see what I did there.....
Your on course testing Andy will be a lot better with shot tracer mate, love the vlogs mate 👍
I thought you could see these shots without the tracer Robert
Good review - there’s a place for all types of clubs but strong lofted not for me.
Price - not bothered. Buy what you can afford and suits. Nobody whines about the price of a Porsche - they just buy what they want/can afford
The average m,an cannot afford a Porsche either, and the same with these clubs and the PXG's and many newer name brand clubs are getting to high they will need to be 5 years old before the AVERAGE worker, making an AVERAGE wage can afford them. I have said it before, but these companies will slowly price themselves into bankruptcy. Right now, only Pros, Dr's and Lawyers can afford such pricey items. The rest of us can just look and buy cheaper clubs.
I won’t be buying Honma and my clubs presently are Callaway Rogue woods and Mizuno irons. I think the top end manufacturers will raise the bar in club production across the board so all will benefit - if money no object I would still be buying the clubs that I get fitted for and suit me best - probably still Mizuno (I believe Honma make a gold £4K driver - I’d never have that - even for £400!)
@@pickin4you I think that most club releases will be in this price category, the new Mizuno iron launching soon are £160 a club
How do you rate them against your PXGs Andy?
They are more compact, I prefer the look of the PXGs and my spin number is better but overall a good performer
@@TheAverageGolfer you worked your nuts off Andy to get your PXGs they look great mate cheers Peter
What seed balls you using ?? Cheers
SD02
Srixon z585 ....ur welcome
Yes Lawrence another fine example.
A bit confused here. You’re essentially playing a 9i with a PW stamped at the bottom. Why not just use your 9i to begin with?
youve got me confused
Soon there will be a 5 iron loft that says 9 on the bottom with they way things are going
I certainly think that 30* will be the norm for a 7 iron
Justin rose doesnt have a lot of podium this year with is new brand......😶⛳
Didn't he win with his first event using them?
@@robertcourt8593
Yep....and never did anything else after
Yours are among the best videos on You Tube-----much better than the soppy schmaltz of Liam "Hollywood Tearjerker" Harrison.
Please keep them coming!! Incidentally, you're much better than an "average golfer".
So instead of being lofted 1 club strong like modern game improvement clubs they're lofted nearly 2 clubs strong, lets see you hit a 2 iron , oh the 4 iron has 2 iron loft specs you say :) www.golfclubspec.com/iron_results.php?id=84